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Rudd’s boat people election fix hasn’t fooled anyone

Marcus Kuczynski

by Marcus Kuczynski

19 Apr 05:35am

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DOES anyone in the Rudd Government know morse code? Because it seems the message that Australia is getting tough on asylum seekers is not reaching the people smugglers or their human cargo.

Illustration: The Daily Telegraph's Warren Brown

More than a week after the Government trumpeted a freeze on processing Sri Lankan and Afghani arrivals, citing improved circumstances in the two countries, there is no sign of an end to the boats heading our way.

In excess of 40 boats have been intercepted since the beginning of 2010 and the detention centre on Christmas Island is now full to overflowing with asylum seekers.

Back on the mainland, most readers of online news sites remain cynical about the Rudd Government’s policy U-turn, some quick to point out this is an election year.

Pat Stuart of Caboolture commented on The Courier-Mail site: “This is purely an election stunt. Rudd just cannot admit he stuffed up big time when he dismantled the Pacific Solution that worked so well and protected our borders from this unwanted invasion of illegal boat arrivals. But his ‘tough stance’ on people smugglers will disappear just like his ‘Greatest moral challenge of our time’ once the election is over.”

Allan of Gold Coast added: “This just stops the processing and not the arrivals. It just means we will need to spend more on accommodation costs to house them until processing begins again. How does that help?”

Whether they oppose the granting of refugee status to boat arrivals or seek better treatment and compassion for them, readers seem to agree Government policy on the issue is lost at sea.

Timster of Sydney commented to The Australian: “The PM hasn’t got a clue how to handle this and many Australians are becoming really frustrated at his policy-on-the-run ‘solutions’ to problems. Few people really mind Australia taking its fair share of refugees. But as correctly pointed out by the previous government, the Australian Government should decide who comes - not people smugglers. That is what is getting most Australians’ back up - coupled with the fact there should be no queue-jumping.”

Not to be outdone by the Government, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott tried to sound even tougher on asylum seekers, suggesting in a radio interview last week that no boat arrivals would be granted permanent residency if he was elected. His office later clarified this comment and confirmed Coalition policy was to seek the reintroduction of temporary protection visas.

The jockeying for an upper hand prompted Wining Pom to write to abc.net.au, accusing both the Government and Opposition of feeding public hysteria over the issue. “There is paranoia about boat people. No common sense, no humane thoughts. Abbott is stirring it up for political gain and Rudd is in a blind panic. I just can’t imagine what the boat people go through. For every one boat person that arrives, 150 arrive by other means. What’s the problem?”

Indeed, many online comments again have reflected the heightened paranoia that surrounds any mention of asylum seekers. Opinions like those by Glenda of Melbourne to the Herald Sun are typical: “The Navy must turn back the boats. If they refuse to turn back they should be fired upon and sunk if necessary.”

Over the weekend, as the first batch of boat arrivals was brought to Christmas Island since the announcement of the new Rudd Government policy, it appeared the issue was not going away.

If the Government had hoped to placate widespread concern over the mounting number of asylum seekers ahead of an election later this year, the plan seems to have backfired.

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    • John A Neve says:

      06:18am | 19/04/10

      Two things constantly in the media are asylum seekers and migrants, two in my view seperate issues. The only thing that they have in common is the fact that they won’t go away.

      We have to come to grips with both issues.
      The migrants are not really any problem, government can adjust the number and type of migrant as they see fit.
      Asylum seekers are a different kettle of fish. We have no real control on numbers or type. Based purely on media reports, I fail to see how we can attack the “people smugglers”, for the most part they stay at home and the chances of catching them are slim.
      As for their customers, do they speak English? Is our message getting through to them? Is their plight such that they don’t care?
      Added to all this, Australia has signed on to certain international conventions, although 60 years old or there abouts, how can we break them?

      The real question is, once you get away from all the media hype, what inpact does less than 1,000 people per year (over the last 30 years), have on our way of life?
      Ask yourselves, is it worth breaking those treaties and loseing face internationally, really worth the risk? Or have the so called “boat people” just become a political football?

      Reply

    • Adam Diver says:

      07:40am | 19/04/10

      “Losing face internationally”. Why we care what everyone else thinks about us is beyond me its not as though there will be any real repurcussions for breaking the treaty.

      We should do what we think is right. Of course a small number of boat people won’t effect our way of life in fact most issues really won’t have much affect on the individual.

      But you don’t want that small number to become a large number. You don’t want criminal cartels profiteering and endangering innocent “refugees”. You don’t want to house hundreds/thousands of people for processing all the time. And you don’t want children living behind bars. And you definately don’t want legitimate refugees going through the proper channels to be disadvantaged.

      Politics and Media have destroyed a chance for a proper debate and policy on this issue.

    • Old Clive says:

      08:19am | 19/04/10

      This is all just another United Nations stuff up. The signing of that treaty should have been put up as a referendum in the first place, Another Labor Stuff up?.

    • John A Neve says:

      08:50am | 19/04/10

      Adam,

      I agree with you to some degree, but rather than break any treaty we have signed, I’d rather it was renegotiated.  You never know, at some point in time in the future an agreement we need, some one else might break.

      We have already seen what happens when countries like, Israel, Nth Korea etc fall out of grace.

      Do we really want to the good guys or the bad guys?

    • Anti Liberal/National Man. says:

      08:54am | 19/04/10

      @ John A Neve, i disagree about the face saving internationally.

      Australia has been kowtowing to one side or another of the rest of the world for ages. We have just had the WTO insist that we endanger our environment by risking the importation of extremely dangerous diseases & insects. All in the name of economic rationalism, extreme capitalism, globalisation, etc. I suppose if we did import all exotic pest species, diseases, etc like foot & mouth disease, then our farmers would be able to compete with the rest of the world, on a level playing field.

      This issue is no different. Why can’t we stand up for ourselves on issues that are important? Other small countries like Switzerland have done so, why not us?

      Why can’t our government, try harder to investigate/prosecute the people smugglers? i would helicopter translators from ASIS/ASIO/AFP onto every navy ship intercepting every boat ASAP. inform them all, that they will all, be transported home immediately if they don’t give up the smugglers.

      An appropriate punishment for the smugglers might be to throw some “burly” overboard first, wait for a school of hungry sharks to arrive & then feed them. Film it all with live streaming onto the Internet, offered to every media organisation in the world.

      Somebody please tell me, that policy would not slow down the arrival of boats. Baxter is sitting there empty BTW, after all the taxpayers money spent on it.

      Having said that, i am not against sensible immigration of genuine refugees.

      Regards the formersnag & swinging voter.

    • Adam Diver says:

      10:27am | 19/04/10

      John, I don’t want to break the treaty as well. I just think the “threat” of breaking a treaty is laughable at best. Just look at China.

    • Bren of the Valley says:

      04:12pm | 19/04/10

      You are right of course, we need to get a sense of proportion on the boat people issue. We could probably save on costs by accommodating the refugees in hotels on the mainland. 
      The media would have us believe there is a flood of refugees knocking on our doors whereas we lose more than that number in traffic accidents every year.

    • Christian Real says:

      07:54am | 20/04/10

      John,
      I believe that Tony Abbott is an opportunist, one that is using the refugees (boat People) as a political football in an attempt to win votes, like Howard did leading up to some of the Federal elections that he faced during his 12 year reign as Prime Minister.
      “The Children Overboard” and the “Tampa”, were a couple of the trump cards that Howard used, and Tony Abbott, “The master’s apprentice’ has apparently learnt well of his former boss.
      What people don’t realise, or want to realise and accept, is that Australia is a signed signatory of the UN Refugees Convention of 1951, and for Howard to turn refugees(boat people) away, and for Abbott claiming that if elected he will turn Refugees (boat People)away is a breach and violation of the UN Refugees Convention that Australia has signed, and those that support Abbott, and supported Howard should hang their heads in shame for helping these Liberal Leaders to demonise these people in such a way.
      Tony Abbott is such an opportunist that he even claims that if the Lord was here, he also would turn these boat people (refugees) away.
      The Question is, How does Tony Abbott know what the Lord would do? It appears that Tony Abbott is making a false claim, and also using the Lord’s name in vain.

    • Risk says:

      11:42pm | 28/04/10

      These people are NOT Asylum Seekers.  They are NOT refugees.  Once they arrived at the nearest port or land mass away from their supposed danger zone.  They arrived at their Destination.

      Bribing people to get out of a processing camp and on to a boat headed for Australian Territorial Waters, makes them no longer anything other than Unauthorised Arrivals, and Illegal Entrants. 

      They are consequently an Invasion Force.  But that is not the crime here.  The crime is not that we even let them here.  The crime is that there are Genuine Refugees, people who are fleeing their country because they are being murdered on mass, that are being denied the right to just intervention because some rich kid from the other side of the tracks has kicked sand in their face.

      Also, they have denied Australian Citizens the rights to a home because of their blind selfishness.  They have even caused deaths because of this.  They expose Australian Citizens to risk of Disease, Infection, and they expose Australian Citizens to the possibilities of having to support them indefinately. 

      They expose Australian Citizens to who knows what kind of criminal elements that lurch among them.  Who knows how many of them are Combatants and who knows for what side. 

      Great Idea, lets give them validity and call them Asylum Seekers and Refugees. 

      They should be given nothing, but transport to a real refugee camp, and swapped one for one for real refugees.

    • Seamus says:

      07:31am | 19/04/10

      It’s high time this government grew a pair, stopped posturing and toughened up their stance on these illegals.  Anything we see or hear at the moment is purely electioneering and nothing of substance.

      Reply

    • gerard says:

      08:23am | 19/04/10

      It is so revealing to see what Rudd said before the 07 election as opposed to what he did. As Howard said “Don’t listen to what Labor say, watch what they do”.

      Reply

    • persephone says:

      10:06am | 19/04/10

      From the old ‘non core promises’ man…of course he thought that promising one thing leading up to an election and do something differently afterwards was the only way to govern.

      He certainly didn’t know how to do it any differently.

    • Adam Diver says:

      10:29am | 19/04/10

      @ Persephone, I suppose that absolves Rudd from any responsibility?

    • JenfromNanaGlen says:

      08:31am | 19/04/10

      I agree with Glenda of Melbourne! Good live firing practice for the Navy.  Unlike the Army who are regularly honing their shooting skills (fighting in the very countries we are now being forced to take refugees from), Navy would actually get some training value! We the taxpayer could be funding housing for existing Australians not the ones we should be rejecting as queue jumpers.

      Reply

    • steve says:

      08:39am | 19/04/10

      Kevin 07 will become NOT AGAIN in 010
      “Don’t Blame Me, I didn’t Vote for Silly Bastards”

      Reply

    • BensonBird says:

      09:44am | 19/04/10

      According to the Poll on Foxtel Rudd is doing ok on this issue. Abbott has fallen back in poularity. I think people are realising hes an aging sport star but not good Pm material. As for me after 30 odd years of voting , the asylum seeker issue does not enter into my voting choice. I have seen many many refugees come to Australia in my adult life. I will vote on the issues that concern me. I will not vote Labor in N.S.W I doubt many will. When it comes to the bottom line we all worry about our hip pocket and they are slugging us too hard.  N.S.W is the state of misery at the moment, with most of us dreading the price hike in Electricity, gas and car registration.

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    • Luke says:

      10:00am | 19/04/10

      I think BensonBird you should open your other eye. Neilson Poll - “Rudd Government, worst opinion poll yet, 51-49.”

    • persephone says:

      11:13am | 19/04/10

      Luke -

      same poll has Rudd’s approval rating going up by 2%, Abbott falling by 4, and 58% approval for Rudd’s cecision about asylum seekers.

      So you can open an eye or two as well.

      BensonBird’s comment that Rudd is doing ok on this issue is supported by the poll you quote to suggest it isn’t.

      Reply

    • Luke says:

      01:58pm | 19/04/10

      Of course Rudd is doing well on the issue, he’s had a nother flip flop on his stance and taken the Howard/Abbott line. It shows voters prefer the Abbott hardline to Rudds soft weaker approach, thank god for Abbott to point this out to him.

    • Luke says:

      01:51pm | 19/04/10

      Open your other eye too persephone, “Rudd Government, worst opinion poll yet, 51-49”

    • WayneT says:

      11:03am | 19/04/10

      FAIL FAIL FAIL Kevin Rudd.  How hard is it to fix the problem?  Instantly stop processing any applications of new arrivals.  Let them all know that they won’t be given a look in until legal immigrants and refugees who have applied through the correct channels from overseas refugee camps and facilities are processed first.  These refugees that come by boat have resources and lots of money, while those poor buggers overseas in these camps have nothing.  How fair is that.  The argument against these people isn’t about race, as pro-refugee groups would like to make out.  It’s about the fairness of letting these individuals in to the detriment of their fellow countrymen who are trying and waiting through proper channels.  For those already here, they get a choice.  Spend the time in detention waiting their turn while those back home get processed, or take a free trip back home or to a refugee camp for proper processing along with their fellow countrymen.  How bloody hard is that to figure out Mr Rudd?  It will send a very clear message.  Don’t come by boat, you wont get through any quicker and you will just have to wait your turn.  It will also illuminate the possibility of these people being lost at sea.  As for our treaty obligations, hasn’t the world changed a little since that was signed?  All treaties and agreements require regular updating to reflect the change in demographics and changing world security issues that could not possibly have been envisaged back then.  Undue pressure on our health and welfare systems as well as our social infrastructure has to be factored in.  We have to stop putting people from other countries ahead of our own citizens.  No one would or should expect you to.

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    • Mick In The Hills says:

      01:47pm | 19/04/10

      I liken temporary protection visas to taking a number and waiting to be called when you drop in to your local clinic without an appointment.

      What’s wrong with this approach for unauthorised boat arrivals? 

      We’ve all come to accept that in life you can’t expect to just bowl up anywhere unannounced, and demand immediate service.

      TPV’s should be lesson No. 1 for boaties on how an organised society operates.

    • Angela says:

      11:29am | 19/04/10

      Wayne stop on its time to put an end to it, they have money and pay big time to get here on some little leaky boat which is not their whole journey its a big rort and people need to wake up I am saying this to the current government get on with it, turn them back in the water, let the people that apply for proper immigration like they did when they came in the 50’s and 60’s get in first, we have a shortage of professionals in this country that we need to sort out fast,  Australians first everyone else join the line, if this is too tough for some then I am sorry but my parents waited 5 years to immigrated and they did it without paying some scum money to transport them through 3 to 4 countries then end up here.

      And I predict labor will be trounced at the polls for this one reason they have turned us into a laughing stock worldwide, I dont care what treaty we have signed these people are not coming from no refugee camp they are no refugees. Refugees do not have money to burn like these people do.

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    • Christian Real says:

      05:49am | 21/04/10

      Angela, It is obvious that people like you have no respect for any other human being, regardless of what their situation is, or what has happened in their Country to cause them and their families to flee.
      To turn the refugees back would be in breach and violation of the Refugees Convention of 1951 of which Australia is a signatory.
      Angela, people like you shame all other Australians because of your , Un-Christian like and Un-Australian attitude towards people who come from less fortunate circumstances than yourself.
      There is a lot of people that call themselves Australians, but how many of those people and their families came from other Countries and took out Australian citizenship.?
      I can’t speak for the Lord like Tony Abbott appears to believe he can, but I do feel that the Lord would be more compassionate than those wanting to turn these people away.
      Maybe, people like you Angela, should be turned back to sea in a leaky boat and see how you, and the people like you, that demonise and ridicule these people would feel.
      Most of the “Other Countries” that you refer to , are not signatories to the UN Refugee Convention of 1951, like Australia.
      It appears by a lot of comments in these blogs, that most Australians are not Christians,although like Tony Abbott they pretend to be when it suits them, and it also appears that Robin Williams was right, Australia is full of rednecks.

    • Aussie mum says:

      10:09pm | 12/06/10

      Angela looks like i and many of my friends will be on the leaky boat with you heading out to sea while Christian Real and the rest of the bleeding hearts work their butts off paying tax to keep these free loaders in comfort ,it has nothing to do with being christian or australian,it’s all about giving genuine refugees not cashed up globe hoppers a safe place to live,these boat hoppers flee because a even richer life style awaits them here than the one they enjoyed in the country they FLEE from and they don’t even have to lift a finger to get it,so Christian Real you better get a second job so you can double your tax payments because you are going to have to keep a lot of these bludgers if something isn’t done for real to stop them now

    • Nicole says:

      11:54am | 19/04/10

      Instead of keeping these queue jumping Country shoppers here, why can’t they be put straight on a plane, and flown to refugee camps?  Let them join the end of the queue and wait patiently like all the other refugees. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper, and it may also deter any more coming.

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    • luke09 says:

      12:42pm | 19/04/10

      This election quick fix from Rudd is another failure to add to his list of policy blunders. Australia has never had such an inept woeful government of this magnitude, Rudd labor is a wrecking ball destroying all hope for future generations. The billions of borrowed money wasted and rorted by policies free of unaccountability in the name of stimulus will hurt Australians more and longer than the temporary one year GFC.
      Labor and their supporters, once critical of detention centres are now justifying the use of such centres and think it is the right solution. Rudd’s open border policy means they will need many more detention centres to cope with demand. No doubt a DCR(Detention Centre Reveloution) stimulus program will be put in place and help save us from the GFC.

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    • jason says:

      02:02pm | 19/04/10

      I’m over labor im voting green and preferencing labor last.. whats the point of having labor in power if they are going to act just like the conservatives?

      Reply

    • Robert Smissen of God's Own Country, Rural SA says:

      04:27pm | 19/04/10

      Sorry Jas, if you do that your preferences go straight to Labor

      Reply

    • antman says:

      05:39pm | 19/04/10

      Robert Smissen, go back to school and learn some Civics or go to the AEC site and do some reading on our voting system. jason said that he was preferencing Labor last. Therefore his preferences wil not go to Labor at all. Your preferences go wherever YOU direct them unless you choose one of the slack options (follow a how to vote card or vote above the line in the Senate); then, you may be right depending upon how the party you vote for has set out their card or registered their Senate preferences. However, you can always overrule these by voting with your own preferenes.

    • anna says:

      12:17am | 20/04/10

      PLEASE TELL ME WHO ARE THEY POLLING - DO THEY LIVE UNDER A ROCK?

      Reply

    • Christian Real says:

      07:27am | 20/04/10

      Those so called “Christian’s that comment in these blogs, that scream out to turn these refugees(boat People) away should not even bother going to church pretending they are Christians, when in fact they are not.
      Tony Abbott is, like a lot of Australian people that support him, a fake Christian,an Opportunist that uses Christianity as a tool to attempt to win Government, he even appears to claim that he knows that the Lord would have turned these refugees (boat people away), but he hasn’t explained how he knows what the Lord would do,if he was he again on earth.
      Another thing is that Tony Abbott’s method of dealing with the refugees (boat people) is akin to the same Howard type of Government that breached the UN Refugees Convention that Australia is a signatory of and that Australia signed in 1951.
      Tony Abbott is a disgrace as Leader of the Opposition, and if he had any real decency or Christianity in him then he would stand down and resign.
      Another thing lacking with Tony Abbott is policies, which appears to show that he also has no policies, no ideas and no direction(lost in the outback astride a quad bike)

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    • UNcouple OZ says:

      08:28am | 21/04/10

      The UIn Convention for Refugees made ovefr 50 years ago and its’ later Protocol have blackmailed the signatory countries into losiong control of their borders.  It is time many of the Clauses were reviewd so that these countries have a real sayi as to who settles in Australia.  Times have changed sinse WWII and it’s time both politicians and voters realised many old Treaties have passed their used by date.

      Reply

    • Danny says:

      08:02am | 11/05/10

      Another excellent ‘identity’ phrase for Australia - ‘As Australian as boat people’.

      Reply

    • Sharon says:

      11:40pm | 12/05/10

      If an action bring success, then you keep doing it.  Thats why the boat people keep coming and coming - they are getting their needs met by the Australian government who allow them to jump the queue to settle in Australia. Illegal entry into this country should be banned - shut the door and only allow migrants and refugees to settle in Australia via the proper channels which have been established.  If boat people are refused entry without any exception, then the message will soon filter through and they will stop coming.  Time and tax payers money could then be devoted to processing those persons who are doing the right thing and applying through the legal channels.  No entry through the backdoor should be allowed.

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    • mark atkins says:

      12:20pm | 24/05/10

      assylum seekers should not be allowed any closer than christmas island.
      if facilities there are full , then house them in tents , bringing them into the country and putting them up in motels is a load of…......
      these people are not refugees, they are bludgers. and should be treated that way. including women and children playing the sypathy card .

      Reply

    • Aussie mum says:

      04:38pm | 12/06/10

      totally agree with you Mark,these people would be well cashed up and would have had to have papers and passports to leave the country they were “fleeing"from,to board planes to enter and exit country’s staying in hotels along the way before arriving in Indonesia,paying thousand of dollars to smugglers to bring them to Australia pretending to be traumatised refugees,the sea between Indonesia and Australia is probable littered with passport,identification papers, laptop,mobile phones thrown over boards by these poor refugees,then on Christmas island start complaining the conditions being substandard[after the tax payer folked out multi millions to up grade the place] mainly toilets are not cleaned every day[wouldn’t think to pick up a mop or brush to clean up after themselves why should they ,they are they paid guest of the australian tax payer ]the only thing that should be on Christmas island is tents as holding station for them,and a plane that flys to Indonesia once aweek to return them from the port the left from,these people don’t like us ,don’t like our life style,why are they coming here? they shouldn’t be allowed to stay , we should be opening our doors to genuine refugees with children in camps fighting to stay alive each day,

    • Policy observer says:

      04:18pm | 30/05/10

      A few years ago I was speaking to some Dept of Immigration policy makers and refugee program managers. After they had briefed us on the (Immigration?) cost of each refugee ($140K each), plus the ongoing support required (housing, language, job placement, family benefits, medical etc) it seemed to cost about half a million per refugee over their life time. It also seemed that it excluded indirect economic productivity losses and the asylum seeker costs of border security and detention.

      I asked the Immigration people a straight question - what is the best way to spend this say $4 billion a year on helping refugees? Is it better to provide less than 14,000 deserving people a year a first world life but condemn up to 20 million to remain in camps, or is it better to stop the refugee intake and turn all that money into foreign aid and help say 10 times more people? 

      Once the shouting had subsided the only answer was spend more money. But as we all know money doesn’t solve the problem it only makes (some) people feel better.

      Reply

    • Dash says:

      01:45pm | 07/06/10

      would’nt it be cheaper to treat our homeless with homes,  blankets etc. try to give them work,not like the boat people getting motel accommodation and fed, new temparory homes, after all, we know what we have and don’t know whom we are getting. Of course, we do understand the sadness of their plight and wish there was another course of action that could be taken to help these poor people. Unfortunately, we do not have sufficient housing for the Australians, lots of government planning should be on the drawing board!!

      Reply
 
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