Rudd thinks Federal politics is “childish” and has become worse over the past decade.

The name's Rudd. Ah, Greg Rudd. Pic: Sabrie Gilles

Sorry - not that Rudd, who frankly we’re all sick of hearing about - but his brother Greg, who is now a business consultant.

Don’t expect him to provide any behind-the-scenes revelations from Camp Rudd over the past few weeks - he hasn’t actually spoken to Kevin since May last year, saying they “agree to disagree” in many areas. But he does have a background which qualifies him to speak with some authority on political machinations at the federal level.

Rudd is a former staffer in the Hawke-Keating Government, and by his own admission played the adversarial game pretty hard in his day.

But he says the system has become so obsessed with political point scoring, driven by young, aggressive political advisers, that it has descended almost into farce.

And he says that there is an admission, even amongst many federal politicians, that the system is broken.

“We’ve drifted into an area where we seem to be more involved in politics and entertainment and personality politics and the cult of celebrity rather than serious issues that affect Australia in the longer term,’’ he says”

They’re trying to convince the public that one side of politics is going to wreck the economy totally and vice versa - it’s just childish. I think we should able to do better. We don’t run other things like that, we don’t run major companies like that, we don’t run schools like that, we don’t run charity groups like that, so why do we run parliament like that?

The game has actually got worse. There are more apparatchiks that come through, having done political science or whatever at university into offices… they just don’t want to give an inch to the other side. My point is that it’s not a game.


Rudd points out the childishness of a system where a good idea is knocked on the head because the other side had it first.

“Even when either side of politics does come up with a good idea, I’ve heard it numerous times over the past 20 years, people will say `shit, that’s not a bad idea. We can’t do it now of course because the other side came up with it first’.”

One of the problems of this system is exemplified in the current scenario, where the Liberal opposition has so wedded itself to hating the Government’s major policies - the carbon tax, mining tax and the National Broadband Network - that it has committed to unwinding them if it wins the next election.

“What’s being said at the moment for the first two years they’re going to get rid of the the carbon tax, get rid of the mining tax, get rid of the broadband network,’’ Rudd says.

“You’ll never convince me that eight years of taking up senior level policy thinking time and taxpayers’ money at the federal parliament level, to end up with a zero outcome, is smart.”

Rudd says there is a need for strategic planning in Australia to ensure that core nation building projects are not sacrificed to the political machine. He proposes that the government - on both sides - identifies initially two or three core areas which will not be used for political point scoring, because they are simply too important.

But at the moment, strategic planning is being sacrificed in the name of political expediency.

“If you go to anyone on either side of politics in the Federal Parliament and say, for the sake of Australia’s, what is the five year, 10 year plan to ensure that the standard of living doesn’t go down and we’re ready to do that crossover when the resources boom levels out and we need to have other sectors ready ... the normal answer is `**** that we’re just trying to win the next election’,” he said.

“People in the political parties say `Greg it’s all too hard, we just hate each other too much and we’ll never cooperate’. I just don’t think that’s a good enough answer.

“Imagine if you were working in a primary school and that was the answer: `When you grow up kids you’re going to go to various workplaces where everyone just hates each other’.

“It’s just a waste of time.”

Rudd has proposed Question Time being split into thirds, with one third of the time set aside for the public, and the renaming of the opposition as the alternative government - a nomenclature which he believes reflects their obligation to come up with alternative policies, not just oppose everything the government of the day does.

Rudd’s final point, in candid terms, is that there’s no point just “bitching about it”, whether you were a disenfranchised cabinet minister in Kevin Rudd’s government, or a voter annoyed with the constant bickering of politicians”

“I’m convinced that 95 per cent of people are unhappy with the outcomes of our political process at the moment. Everyone bitches about it but what I’m convinced of is that left to themselves political parties won’t change a thing because it’s not in their interest.

“My view is that, is that one thing politicians do listen to is public sentiment. If it starts to ramp up and they listen to the public and they listen to the media…”

Rudd says that the public needs to put pressure on both sides of government in the lead up to the next election to agree on some core, bipartisan issues which can be advanced in the nation’s interest.

The ball, it seems, is in your court.

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    • iansand says:

      01:58pm | 28/02/12

      This person is clearly a (undying enemy party of your choice) plant, and should be ignored.

    • Bertrand says:

      08:01pm | 28/02/12

      Indeed.

      The way partisanship destroys political debate is easily seen on this website.

      Too often the only reply people will give you in response to a criticism you make about policy is that you must be a mole from the other ‘side’.

      It’s not a football game people. We don’t barrack for teams. We should be assessing each idea on its merits and not by the jersey worn by the person delivering the policy.

      To be sure, many people will have a party that is more of an ideological ‘fit’ than the other parties. However, this doesn’t mean they should complacently accept everything they offer up as perfect and everything the other parties offer up as crap.

    • robbo says:

      10:51am | 29/02/12

      I beg to differ from you mate.
      Here is a Rudd who is not a ruddbot!

    • Dan Webster says:

      01:58pm | 28/02/12

      I’ll vote for Greg Rudd.

    • Enkl says:

      08:23am | 29/02/12

      I would not vote for Greg Rudd.

      Regarding “the Government’s major policies - the carbon tax, mining tax and the National Broadband Network” Greg Rudd says
      “You’ll never convince me that eight years of taking up senior level policy thinking time and taxpayers’ money at the federal parliament level, to end up with a zero outcome, is smart.”

      It is smart to admit when you’ve been wrong. To fail to do so is just to increase the waste and compound the folly!

      That’s the problem with the current lot. They will not admit that they’ve got it wrong. Take the illegals for example. The only reason for not going back to the Pacific solution and TPVs is that it would be an admission of error.

    • Just the facts pls says:

      02:01pm | 28/02/12

      “The ball, it seems, is in your court. “

      The ball is where it has been for a very long time. Sitting on the floor in the media’s side of the court gathering dust.

      The electorate want the FACTS of policy presented to them in a fair and balanced presentation. They can then form an opinion based on facts. Until the media provides facts and balanced analysis, the ball will not be in “our” court.

    • Mahhrat says:

      02:17pm | 28/02/12

      I love both the article and this reply.  Give them both more internets.

    • Borderer says:

      03:45pm | 28/02/12

      “Even when either side of politics does come up with a good idea, I’ve heard it numerous times over the past 20 years, people will say `shit, that’s not a bad idea. We can’t do it now of course because the other side came up with it first’.”
      The whole refusal to reintroduce the Pacific solution for assylum seekers illustrates this point perfectly. It caused the whole mess with various governments in the region as well as the failure in the high court. It’s silly, its stupid and all down to ego.
      A government has a job to do and that is primarily to provide a safe and stable country. Wacking through massive amounts of nation changing legislation does not do this, nor does being dishonest with the electorate. I remember the children overboard scandal as the first big time political ploy since I was eligible to vote and I didn’t like it then, it’s gotten much worse since, culminating in that internationally embarrassing fiasco on Australia day.
      Nobody is impressed with this sort of carry on, nobody listens to our PM any more and that’s a sad thing not just for her but our nation too.
      Truth be told if Labor after defeating Howard came out with a few changes here and there, maybe even the odd failure, the public would have rejoyced, they may have even won more seats in 2010 but the power of ego meant they came out guns blazing. Poor planning and bad implimentation caused failure after expensive failure all as the GFC arrived, they had bet the house and lost. We need to get back to stability and get rid of the ego driven cowboys and once stablethen make changes, careful, thought out changes, not what the focus group came up with last Thursday.

    • Just the facts pls says:

      04:45pm | 28/02/12

      Borderer
      Considering what you just wrote was verbose and opinion -

      You would be an excellent candidate for the “news” desk of the Telegraph, the Australian or any of the other Ltd. News titles, where the facts are optional and opinion is the “news” of the day.

    • Nate says:

      06:09am | 29/02/12

      Justthefacts:

      If you want “the facts,” then get off the Punch, get on the parties’ websites, and read their policies. It’s all there. The media are there to sell advertising, not to forward our interests.

      It’s up to us to do our own homework - something as important as our country is worthy of the time.

    • Borderer says:

      08:24am | 29/02/12

      JTFP
      Your statement adds nothing…..
      See, I can do it too, I can try to appear to be smart by throwing facts out there but not actually contribute anything to the formulation of ideas.
      Of course its opinion, that’s why I gave it, the first part of my comment was an example which supported Rudd’s comment, the rest is obviously opinion.
      So thanks for pointing out the obvious, you may now wish to keep us riveted by pointing out how many paragraphs I used.

    • Just the facts pls says:

      09:36am | 29/02/12

      Interesting Borderer. I call for facts about policy to be presented in a balanced manner and your reply is that I don’t “actually contribute anything to the formulation of ideas. “

      Perhaps you are of the opinion that facts are unnecessary and a distraction to your prejudice and bias as evidenced by your rant about Labor.
      It would certainly appear that way.

      Your comment only serves to reinforce my belief that facts are the most important part of the opinion forming process.

      You sir fail to appear to be smart and for good reason.

    • Bill says:

      02:02pm | 28/02/12

      And the biggest whingers, moaners and backstabbers all sit to the right of the speaker.

    • St. Michael says:

      02:15pm | 28/02/12

      Thank you for illustrating this Rudd’s point.

    • Mr Pod says:

      02:05pm | 28/02/12

      How come every relative of a politician is a consultant, must be something smelly going on or is work avoidance genetic.

    • Anon says:

      03:53pm | 28/02/12

      I work in an a govt dept and there’s heaps of husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, kids etc, entire families even. So why can’t a relative of a politician be a consultant? Not real link to anything ‘fishy’.

    • AdamC says:

      02:12pm | 28/02/12

      It is a bit strange that the examples given here of a party not supporting their rivals’ ideas simply for the sake of it are the Coalition’s opposition to the carbon and mining taxes and the NBN. The reality, of course, is that the Coalition never supported these policies, for good reasons. These are, therefore examples of the opposite behaviour to that which Rudd is objecting.

      Indeed, a carbon tax was actually opposed by Labor, even ruled out, until they implemented one for political reasons after the 2010 election. (Remember JuLiar, etc?) The mining tax was very poorly designed, with a number of bizarre flaws. It also threatened to make Australia a less attractive destination for investment. The NBN is an item of infrastructure whereby we pay billions to establish a network that enables us to pay a lot more for a better internet service. No wonder no cost/benefit analysis was ever done on it.

      And, despite Rudd’s suggestion that years of planning and development went into these ideas, at least in the NBN’s case, it was a decision made within a few days to solve a political problem for Labor. (Basically, no private sector investors had materialised for their preferred, more pared down NBN model.) The carbon tax was cobbled together in a matter of months via parliamenmtary negotiation. The mining tax may well have been the subject of many years of development, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a complete dog of a policy.

      I actually agree with Rudd’s underlying sentiments, he has just chosen very bad examples to illustrate them because he is, like so many Laborites, uncritically loyal to the party line. I also don’t know if the adversarial dysfunction within our democracy is really that new. After all, the GST was the best example of a political party opposing an idea they agreed with for the sake of pure political bloody-mindedness, and that was over ten years ago.

    • Cameron England says:

      02:53pm | 28/02/12

      Hi AdamC,

      I’d like to point out that Greg Rudd was not necessarily advocating these policies - just saying that undoing all the work that went into them seems a waste of time. His point is that if there can be bi-partisan agreement on policies/projects like these, we can get on and do the job with important “core” projects. And for your interest he claims now to have moved on from identifying with either side of politics.

    • AdamC says:

      03:22pm | 28/02/12

      Cameron, I get he wasn’t advocating the policies. My point was that they are not examples of the phenomenon he is criticising. Also, in the case of the carbon tax and the NBN, there was no great amount of work that went into them to be undone, as they were policies made on the run.

      Like I said, I agree with him in principle. I just think we need to be sure what the problem is before we can resolve it.

    • Bruce says:

      06:20pm | 28/02/12

      @Adam   Yes, they are. Read the article again.

    • luke09 says:

      02:34pm | 28/02/12

      QT is a waste of time. The PM sets the standard and she is plain nasty and full of ridicule towards every opposition question without answering what was ask. It is one reason why she rates so poorly as our Prime Minister.

    • Against the Man says:

      03:55pm | 28/02/12

      Gillard isn’t PM material, hell she isn’t worthy of being an intern looking for work experience. Just an empty vessel stringing us along to satisfy her own ego. She knows she is crap and her peers are crap and her policies are crap. Same old Labor!

    • Jane says:

      04:24pm | 28/02/12

      Luke, the reason the PM is “full of ridicule” is due to the fact the oppositions questions are always simply nonsense.
      You’d be fed up too if you had to endure an hour and a half of nonsensical rubbish followed up with the inevitable “censure motion”.

    • Denny Crane says:

      05:33pm | 28/02/12

      Jane - you have obviously never watched QT to make a comment like that. It doesnt matter what the question is, she refuses to answer. What makes it worse, in her feeble attempts to denegrade Tony Abbott she usually throws in one or two lies.

      She is the most dishonest, incompetent hypocrite ever to grace our parliment. (When I say grace, I mean darken the parliments door)

    • Ryan says:

      06:23pm | 28/02/12

      See, Greg Rudd. How can you call those comments “childish”? Oh, wait ...

    • Mr A Dad says:

      02:51pm | 28/02/12

      I’m still waiting for the day that a voting slip will have a “None of the above” box for me to tick, so I can say no I dont want to vote for any of you at the moment, go back and do better

    • Jos says:

      05:02am | 29/02/12

      You and me both, Mr A Dad, and perhaps millions of others. At the moment, there is, in my opinion, absolutely no-one on any side of politics worth voting for. It is exactly as this very astute Greg Rudd said…all about point scoring and bitching and not a peep about future planning.

      As someone else said, I’ll vote for THIS Mr Rudd…if he will enter politics. Sadly I suspect he is too smart for that.

    • Jimbo75 says:

      02:51pm | 28/02/12

      Demonising your political opponents is unfortunately the norm. I note that Question Time today started with the recognition of traditional owners folowed by the Lord’s prayer.

      We would be far better served if both the PM and the Opposition Leader repeated, together, the following words taken from the very first Commonwealth Budget:

      ” we all fully realize the great responsibility which rests upon our shoulders, and I am certain that, whatever our opinions on the fiscal question may be, we shall give each other credit for being animated by but one desire—to do that which is best for Australia, and fair, just and equitable for all States, and to all classes and sections of our community.”

      This ongoing attitude from both parties that those across the chamber from them not want what is best for Australia is pure rubbish. Every politician wants a better Australia and there is usually agreement, in terms of overall outcomes, on what is meant by a “better Australia”. Political parties should put their efforts to debating, in the context of legislative frameworks and limited financial resources, what are the most practical and cost effective ways to achieve this “better Australia.”

      But then what would the Press Gallery do for a living?

    • Maggs Smith says:

      02:54pm | 28/02/12

      I will always admire and defend KEVIN RUDD his right to be who he is.
      Unfortunately for your site you seem to be scraping the barrel with this .
      Whatever his brother has to say seems to come at a time when he wants to sink the boot in to Kevin Rudd. Go and find something else to do.

    • Rosie says:

      02:58pm | 28/02/12

      “My view is that, is that one thing politicians do listen to is public sentiment. If it starts to ramp up and they listen to the public and they listen to the media…”

      Nope, this fraudulent, try hard wannabes have come to a standstill after losing their way, they are now talking and listening only to themselves. They just love hearing the sound of their voices desperately trying to convince and mislead us for that illusive vote come elections even when they know they are not being listened to. Most of us don’t need anymore convincing, we are hungry for elections so that Tony Abbott’s party can be given the chance to clean up the mess by this Gillard Labor Minority Govt.

    • Joan says:

      06:29pm | 28/02/12

      @Rosie

      Nobody is listening to you fraudulent, try hard wannabes. That’s why you lost the last 2 elections.

    • Fred says:

      03:23pm | 28/02/12

      It must be difficult for them when the people are just as small minded and selfish themselves.

      Build a train line or give you $100 extra in middle class welfare? Of course most people will take the latter.

      It would be nice if a pollie actually attempted stating a long term vision, the Henry Review was one such attempt, but of course implementing it wouldn’t have been popular because it would have meant the stolen money gravy train would potentially dry up for so many and the Liberals and main stream media would hammer it to death.

    • SD says:

      03:42pm | 28/02/12

      With the Liberals throwing daily tantrums for the life of any time they are ever in opposition, of course the tone is going to drop!

    • Utopia Boy says:

      03:49pm | 28/02/12

      He got it half right - politicians listen to the media.
      The problem with politicians is they couldn’t give a toss about the public.
      And the media does not represent the public - it represents whichever political party it’s owner tells it to.

    • Ned Springstein says:

      04:05pm | 28/02/12

      Aunty Madge Spingstein asked me today if poor Tony Abbott will be able to find a job after he loses the 2013 election and I said probably not Aunt Madge but then again maybe some kind hearted soul might like to employ a skilless person such as Tony. She heaved a sigh of relief. Bad fib that one.

    • TM says:

      05:09pm | 28/02/12

      Is Aunt Madge a new name for Mrs Palmer? Bet Ned is a dole bludger as obviously he has no skill at this.

    • Denny Crane says:

      05:29pm | 28/02/12

      Gee Ned, another thigh slapper. You must have somebody writing your lines for you because no one person could come up with such a variety of funny comments without some help.

    • sandra says:

      09:08pm | 28/02/12

      the major TV polls have Abbott 84% to lead and gilliar 27%—plus 160,000 believed labor is not fit to govern—so you , JOAN and Springy thingy and all the abusive bullying rusted ons here—you are gone big time—bullying alway has a nasty after taste so might want to tone down your vitriole. it says more about you than Abbott

    • Mattb says:

      05:57pm | 28/02/12

      Wow, we are going to be paying between a $1.50 and $6.00 extra a flight due to a price on carbon. Big deal

      And what’s that down the bottom there, our airlines along with the rest of the worlds airlines already have to pay a carbon price when they fly into the EU. Yes, thats been the case for a while now.
      How have these airlines survived this debilitating extra cost?, oh the humanity!, surely they shouldve all shut down by now…

    • Chicken Little must go says:

      06:37pm | 28/02/12

      That’s it ? You can afford to spend thousands on airfares, but not $3 ? LMAO

    • Darryl Knight says:

      06:42pm | 28/02/12

      As someone who has lived in the electorate of Griffith for over 20 years it is time for Rudd to go. I am not a coalition supporter, I have voted for this gentleman but he should now resign from parliament. I do not know what he spends his postage allowance on, he has never replied to one of my letters or emails. Apart from seeing him having a coffee al fresco in Oxford Street Bulimba, I have never seen him (except on the TV news) , I haven’t had one letter from him telling me what he is doing for me in years if ever. I want a member in my electorate who is responsive to their electorate not someone whose interests lie else where.

    • Chicken Little must go says:

      07:13pm | 28/02/12

      @gillardmustgo

      p.s. You’ll notice Virgin only increased their profit by 118% to $51.8 million, so I’m happy to chip in another $3 for the poor dears.

    • Rover says:

      07:21pm | 28/02/12

      You sure that’s a Postbox, Dazza ?

    • Don C says:

      08:07pm | 28/02/12

      Yup, I doubt his credentials too.

      He’s a pop-up poster. “Cho Chop” is too.

      Enough, already,  with the instant DIY elections nonsense.

      Rudd stood for election in 2010 at the cost of the good taxpayers of Australia and was duly elected by the will of the good electors of Griffith for a three year term.

      Ruud can damned well stay put and fulfill his obligations to his constituents as their elected representative until the next election in 2013.

    • Vonny says:

      10:14pm | 28/02/12

      @ Mattb - China has refused to pay the EU carbon tax. Next.
      When will this end, $10 or $400?? This is a door once open will lead to expensive consequences. Already we see the job loses, bad news all round for australians

    • Michael Creighton says:

      10:18pm | 28/02/12

      That’s it! I am cancelling my London trip right now!  An additional three dollars to fly to London, just to cut carbon pollution?  It’s an outrage. No-one will ever travel again if this tax is not axed.

    • Joel B1 says:

      08:18am | 29/02/12

      Gee what a bunch of thoughtless and rather glib “So what, big deal it’s only $3” comments.

      Take a deep breath dearies and think.

      That’s just one company. When every company you deal with adds a few extra dollars you’ll be paying *thousands* more to support the UN and the bogie monster of AGW (it hasn’t warmed since 1997 (Washington Times)).

    • Joel B1 says:

      08:20am | 29/02/12

      Gee what a bunch of thoughtless and rather glib “So what, big deal it’s only $3” comments.

      Take a deep breath dearies and think.

      That’s just one company. When every company you deal with adds a few extra dollars you’ll be paying *thousands* more to support the UN and the bogie monster of AGW (it hasn’t warmed since 1997 (Washington Times)).

    • Bertrand says:

      11:06am | 29/02/12

      @JoelB1 - “it hasn’t warmed since 1997”

      Nonsense. The first decade of the 21st century was the hottest on record, despite most of the decade experiencing a solar minimum. 2005 and 2010 were hotter than 1997. 1997 stands out as a hot year but AGW is about trends not specific one-off events or records.

      (Solar fluctuations are put out there as one of the possible natural forcing events that might explain the changing climate. The fact that we have had a solar minimum but continuing upwards trends completely debunks this thesis.)

      NASA has produced peer-reviewed satellite evidence showing that the amount of heat radiation escaping the Earth’s atmosphere has decreased in the very wave-lengths at which CO2 captures it. Other scientists in Europe have produced peer—reviewed evidence showing that the amount of this same CO2 wavelength heat radiation returning to earth has also increased. What you have in these two studies is clear empirical evidence that more CO2 in the atmosphere had led to more heat radiation being kept in our atmosphere.

      You do realise that no-one from either side of politics is actually denying the scientific consensus behind AGW? (even Tony Abbott has declared he accepts the science) The debate should be focused on the best way to deal with it. It is time to move on from conspiracy theories and junk science being put out by vested interests.

    • onlooker says:

      05:47pm | 28/02/12

      I listened to Malcom Turnbull today on Fox, he was talking about the NBN, he did sum up the events over the last week or so concerning Labor pretty well, I feel anyway. He said word to this effect, the Gillard sent her hench men and women out in the public arena not only to get Rudd but to destroy any public support he had, to crucify him. I must say its all pretty disturbing , but the last thing we need is family members or friends of friends or their pet dogs commenting. We all have an opinion and Greg Rudds are no more important than yours or mine.

    • Reader says:

      08:02pm | 28/02/12

      Oh well, a Liberal said it on TV or radio so it must be true.. I work the opposite way, i assume it to be BS and work back from there.

    • Pat says:

      05:26am | 29/02/12

      Reader: Perhaps you are too used to accepting the waves of Labor BS to know any different. I can understand this is the case. When people swallow the media spiel of that poseur Julia Gillard,  day in - day out. , quoting the likes of I:E ” I.,.like most Australians….” ,  “I want to strike the right balance…” , “I and my Government…..” etc etc That sort of pure concentrated B.S would overwhelm, even the largest processing treatment plant built, to handle such manner of identical material!  Now we know what Julia’s ‘polution tax ’ should have been really set aside, for!!.. 

      Question : “What f….g Government is she talking aboiut?”
      A made up affair: created by a Party -  poliitically whoring - to get enough independent wheeler dealers to climb into bed and vote with it?
      Has anyone thought of the persuasive blackmail that must be going on, behind closed doors this very minute, as for keeping Federal Labor Lower House members, from doing ‘some sort of exit walk’?  After they have just witnessed a fine example of a Stalinist type purge -exercise taking place, conducted by that monotonous drone - sounding banchee?
      Such situations always function, by fitting a pattern and then finish the same way
      (1)  A show of what appears to be condescending , ingratiating benevolence.
      (2) Then, with false confidence of therir actual power,  they start to show malice and make menacing threats. Using a chorus of slimy creatures assisiting ,to do the tough stuiff and who profess false undying loyalty to the insecure leader.
      (3) Then,when things go wrong, it all collapses into a heap of absolute dis-array..

      This week’s Labor school yard tactics with head supervisor Gillard, we saw, she not only lead the briefed bullies to attack Rudd,for her own self preservation: but now wants to call her pupils back to class. Proclaiming the matter is over, finished, and that her class is looking to the future..As she put away the flying broomstick, she rode into battle on. Forgetting though, to see the new cancerous warts that have appeared on her growing Pinnochio nose in the nearest mirror.
      Blooded by the incident, and ,disgusted at the savagery she sanctioned -there will be somewhere hidden in her Labor Hogwarts witches & bitches Class (gender- left unspecified!) ,: creatures , that will now be willing to show the rest of her compliant mob. How they really have the crafty balls, to take her on at her own game…....and win at payback games!

      As someone once said, the trouble with Labor - is that it is similar to various types of fundimental religious groups. Where final personal self affirmation is paramount, most of all.. . Having clawed their way up though all that harsh,  tired Labor ‘union comrade’ mechanism ...is it any wonder : every one of Labor’s Parliamentary members , tends to want to be ‘top cocky’? The matter of being P.M to both guide and serve the country….is always a secondary afterthought..

    • onlooker says:

      05:58am | 29/02/12

      Reader I am or was a Labor voter, but the events over the last week or so have made me give more attention to The Lib’s I can’t possibly vote for that rubbish again. It sickens me that my vote might have help inflict this on Australians. It has been very upsetting

    • Dennis Poole says:

      09:14pm | 28/02/12

      Comments about questions in question time being nonsense, well you are absolutely right. All questions are selected before hand, that is why so many daft questions get asked. It is to waste time, answer to nothing and have a bash at the other side.

    • Peter says:

      10:09pm | 28/02/12

      When stupid Australians treat support for either political party AS IF THEY WERE SUPPORTING A FOOTY TEAM, instead of who can best run the economy and the country, you will get this mess.  Currently, NOBODY should seriously believe that the current government is the best bet. [And yes! I have voted both ways. ]

    • John says:

      11:00pm | 28/02/12

      Record investment. Record wealth. Record employment. Low interest rates. Low inflation.

    • Ricko says:

      07:08am | 29/02/12

      It’s not unsual, when governments (Howard in particularly) went about systematically silencing all the expert voices that contributed to good government. Those who were adults back in the early 80’s will remember that D-G’s of departments used to contradict Govt (not anymore), that academics used to contradict govt (not anymore), that public servants on the street (eg police officers) used to give frank assessments of what just occurred (not anymore)...and that the PR wasn’t centralised, and was not the bloated monstrosity it is today. It wasn’t really about spin & politics back then - but democracy & politics.

      We’ve moved from democracy, where societies institutions contribute to good policy, to fearful politicians running the most spin controlled popularity contest they can.

      It’s a larger version of JFK’s ‘groupthink’ decision on the Bay of Pigs - decision making didn’t work properly then (no devils advocate, insulated from the outside world, toe the party line), and it doesn’t work properly today either.

    • Ozymandias says:

      10:00am | 29/02/12

      I have thought for decades that the behaviour of our Alleged Leaders is profoundly similar to the behaviour of little children in Kindergartens. Pleasant to see that others are reaching the same conclusion.

    • SirenP of WA says:

      10:08am | 29/02/12

      GREG RUDD for PM!  Althoughmy grandfather (who was a Liberal Party official) told me that when you go in to politics, you will lose your self respect and the respect of others as well, so perhaps Greg had better stay out of it

    • Dave Barbagallo says:

      10:14am | 29/02/12

      The carbon tax is a good idea, really? Then why can no politician enumerate how it coul conceivably affect the weather let alone the climate.

      If you need the money just be honest and raise the GST to 20% which is more or less what’s happening albeit with a sanctimonious cover story.

    • Bertrand says:

      10:54am | 29/02/12

      @Dave Barbagallo - you are misrepresenting the reason behind the government’s decision to price carbon.

      no-one is claiming that Australia’s actions are going to single-handedly change the climate. What a carbon price does is put systems in place now so that we can ease into the transition to a low carbon economy. This is a transition that is going to have to be made at some stage, and it is the far more economically sensible option to start now and be able to ease into it, instead of waiting for another 10, 20, 30 years and being forced into making incredibly rapid and vastly more expensive changes then.

      The fact is, if we want to reduce our emissions (and pretty much all scientific evidence says that we do) it is going to come at a cost to some sectors of our economy. But it is a very short-term approach to simply look at those costs and decide to do nothing, as you are ignoring the vastly higher costs that will have to be paid in the future.

    • Warhorse says:

      10:21am | 29/02/12

      Three core issues to be removed from politics? I’ll start with one. The National Freight Task. It is absolutely ridiculous that the Melbourne to Brisbane inland rail hasn’t been built yet!!

    • Paul says:

      11:03am | 29/02/12

      Labor first became very childish in the Whitlam era and continued through the Kawke/keating period until the rise of Gillard and her kindergarten.Much of this childish play is the result of union stupidity and mischief and Labors ties to this now irrevalent group.When a government has to spend vast sums of unnecessary money on areas where Labor supporters reside to continually buy their votes they are also irrevelant in todays modern world.Especially if this group can’t even get on with it’s own members who come from a variaty of different kindergartens.The right hates the left,the left right outs hate everybody,the communists and atheists hate the catholics and on and on it goes in Labor Kindie,and it always will.

    • Ricko says:

      02:59pm | 29/02/12

      Paul, I think you are blinded by party politics…which parties absolutely love and thank you for.

      As for unions - they do occasionally do stupid things, and you only have to look at the US to see what erosion of Union power has achieved for corporations - in your first year of employment you get 2 weeks ‘personal time’, which included both holidays and sick days. Their minimum wage is much worse than ours, as is the divide between rich and poor (1% of their country owns 40% of the wealth) The list goes on.

      But keep blindly following the faith…your party will love you for it. So will the rich corporations.

    • Seth Brundle says:

      03:09pm | 29/02/12

      “My view is that, is that one thing politicians do listen to is public sentiment”

      Except when it has to do with a carbon tax, apparently…

 

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