I remember the jokes. They were usually about one of two things: hardship or fear.

Soviet standup: hardship and fear the basis of communist humour.

It’s been strange, this week, to reflect that most people will never know, as I did (albeit as a visitor) what it was really like in the old Soviet Bloc. But the jokes used to tell the story.

An American dog, a Polish dog and a Russian dog are talking. The American dog says “Where I live it’s good. You bark loudly enough, and they give you meat”. The Polish dog says” What’s meat?” The Russian dog says “What’s bark?”

Why have they brought in this new law in Moscow that the bread shops have to be separated by two kilometres? To keep the queues apart.

I was in Poland, in the autumn of 1981. Lech Walesa had founded the national Trade Union, Solidarity, the year before, and with the tacit support of the Polish Pope, had reached unprecedented heights of popularity. The rectangular red and white ‘Solidarnosc’ badges were on every second lapel.  But people feared (rightly as it turned out) that the crackdown would come soon. Hence the joke I was told:

“You’ve heard they’re making round Solidarnosc badges now? Easier to swallow.”

In much-invaded Poland there was also bitterness about the neighbours – on both sides.

“If the Russians and the East Germans invaded tonight, which would you shoot first? The Germans. Why? Duty before pleasure.”

In Czechoslovakia in 1968, silenced by the tanks, they came out and painted the jokes on the walls:

“Why is Czechoslovakia the most neutral country in the world? Because it doesn’t even interfere in its own internal affairs”.

Were these jokes a form of samizdat – the underground literature of communism, but in oral form – or were they actually a sort of safety-valve, tacitly allowed by the regimes, and even used by them as an early warning system for public disaffection?

There’s academic disagreement about that, but one thing is clear: that at one time in Communist history, jokes were very dangerous indeed. As Ben Lewis points out here archival research by the dissident Soviet historian Roy Medvedev on political prisoners, indicated that 200,000 people went to jail in Stalin’s time for the sole ‘crime’ of telling a joke. Many of them were not released until after the dictator’s death.

Sending people to the gulag for a one-liner, of course, was small beer to Stalin. The Oxford historian Professor Archie Brown estimates that 10 to 20 million people died – directly or indirectly – because of Stalin’s orders or his policies. You can hear an extended interview with him here.
Note that the figure – 10 to 20 million – does not include the 25 million who died in the Second World War. Professor Brown says several million of those died because Stalin had purged the Army, meaning that he had had many of its most competent officers killed, so the first part of the Soviet campaign against Hitler was profoundly wasteful.

My own first encounter with Soviet bloc communism in action was in Mongolia in 1971. I was, as I’ve written here before, a student, on vacation, visiting my father, the British Ambassador in Ulan Bator. It was strange living in the Embassy: you always had to be careful what you said.

The Embassy had one phone line, but there were no less than six telephone cables coming out of the building – and for no apparent reason, they were all routed via the sentry-box outside.

British Foreign Office ‘sweepers’ would come out periodically from London to de-bug the building. Then, in a ritual dance, ‘heating technicians’ would arrive from the Mongolian Interior Ministry, (the city ran on a centralised heating system) and re-bug it.

On one celebrated occasion my father used this fact to his advantage. The low-security, but sealed, diplomatic bags that came in via Moscow, had been opened at some point – either by the Russians or by the Mongolians themselves. Dad had lodged a protest, but met a brick wall. So that night, during dinner, he motioned us for silence, sat back in his chair, and delivered a loud, clear monologue at the ceiling.

The import of his lengthy remarks was that, not only was Her Majesty’s Government angry at what had happened, it was absolutely livid. Indeed, he had received a highly secret cable from London that very afternoon saying that, unless a full apology was forthcoming within 24 hours, he was to break off diplomatic relations, pack up the Embassy and go home.

Promptly at 8 the next morning, an emissary of the Foreign Minister was at the front door in a car, ready to transport him to the Ministry to receive the grovelling apology he had asked for.

Of course, with diplomatic privilege, being bugged had few real consequences: but for ordinary people all over the Communist world, the possibility of microphones in the walls was a daily fear.

Hence the sense that you always had, even in the flats of dissidents, that it was not quite safe to talk freely. It might be all right for you – a tourist in other people’s oppression.

Whether I working was in Warsaw, Budapest or Moscow, the need to go for walks, or conduct interviews in cars, and even then, always to wonder whether I was endangering my interviewees’ safety or even their life.

The jokes were all part of the doubleness of life under totalitarian or authoritarian regimes, and it was a doubleness that was everywhere; always there was that sense of the overground and the underground, separated by what people really thought but could seldom actually say out loud.
My father and I used to go fishing on long summer afternoons in Mongolia, a country where religion was banned, apart from a single (licensed and closely-observed) monastery in Ulan Bator.

In the wild, after long drives across the steppes, miles from the nearest town, we would always find them: prayer flags, tied to branches, flying over springs and rivulets, in homage to the gods and spirits of wood and water.

We never saw anyone leaving them or praying at them, but half a century after the religion (closely related to Tibetan Buddhism) had been ‘eliminated’, the resistance remained.

That was how it was, in different ways, in all the Soviet satellite countries, always the silent resistance and the jokes: and that’s why, when the Wall came down, the whole system collapsed: the domino theory the Americans feared in Vietnam actually worked in reverse, so the dominos fell all the way back to Moscow. There was just no will any longer to keep up the pretence.

Is there a danger it could come back, if we allow what happened to fade in memory?

It seems incredibly unlikely in many of the former East European client-states: they’re mostly either in the European Union already, or on their way in, and even the global financial crisis has done little to revive the cold Communist Parties.

As for Russia, the habits of totalitarianism have certainly died hard: a poll recently showed Stalin was still the third most popular historical figure of all time, and the Medvedev/Putin Government has been busy trying to stop people from “besmirching” his memory, or writing too much about the Gulags.

But even in Russia, Marxism-Leninism itself – redistribution of property and the means of production, driven always by the Central Role Of The Party – is probably gone for good.

All that remain are the memories - and the jokes, dark and pungent like the bread.

Brezhnev is being driven through the countryside when his limousine hits a pig. An angry crowd approaches from the nearest village. He sends the chauffeur to pacify them. Cowering behind darkened windows, he sees the chauffeur approach the mob and start to talk. Suddenly they start to cheer, and carry him back, shoulder-high in triumph. He gets back in the car and they drive away. Brezhnev, astonished, asks “How did you manage that?”

“I don’t know”, says the driver. I just said “I’m Brezhnev’s driver: I killed the pig”

And this:
“Here in the Soviet Union we have a pretend economy.  We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.”

And finally, the one that, with hindsight on the events of 1989, you could interpret as prophetic:

“Capitalism is teetering on a precipice. Soon Communism will overtake it”.

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    • Mr Hyde says:

      07:32am | 11/11/09

      Near the end of the Soviet era, a young man walked gaily through the streets of Moscow, singing out loud: ‘21 today, 21 today’. As he crossed a bridge over the half-frozen Volga river, a man dressed in the uniform of a communist party official embraced him, crying ‘comrade, that’s wonderful! Your 21st birthday! Many happy returns! I will toast both you and Comrade Brezhnev tonight’. Quick as a flash, the young man grabbed the party man’s legs and tipped him into the icy waters below.

      Off he skipped, singing ‘22 today! 22 today!’

    • Old Clive says:

      07:40am | 11/11/09

      Avery interesting article, I suppose the saying quote,” If you ignore history you are doomed to repeat.”, stands out in this article, but then again, it has been my experience that you cannot put old heads on young shoulders, of course that is the ploy in this day and age and as Stalin and all other despots controlled the press so we have our modern day despots doing the same thing. We don’t have gulags but we do have poverty and ways of breaking the peoples spirits, fear and doubt, coupled with smear are formidible weapons.

    • Helen says:

      07:55am | 11/11/09

      Interesting contrast with the English-speaking countries of today. Then, we had people prevented from speaking truth to the powerful under threat of their very lives and that of their families. So the jokers were brave people popping their heads over the barricades hopefully in such a brief and untraceable way that they wouldn’t get shot off by the powerful people they were sending up.

      Fast forward to the privileged young scions of US/UK/Australia today, and we get the privileged making fun of the powerless instead - blackface, rape jokes and other sexism, foreigners, poor people. Oh, and inciting violence towards out-groups like cyclists. What are the terrible tortures that they are subject to for this? Why, they get… criticised!! and sometimes people… make fun of them back! and they get… called tools, douchebags and other nasty names!

      Oh, the poor oppressed jokers of modern times! And then when they invoke dignified concepts like “freedom of speech” to justify their douchiness, people just point out that they’re not being subject to any legal sanctions let alone torture or death. Oh, the humanity!

    • R.E.L. says:

      08:22am | 11/11/09

      Ronald Reagan used to tell this one in meetings:
      Brezhnev and Kusygin were having a one-on-one meeting.
      Brezhnev said “Maybe it’s time we opened our borders and allowed free emigration.”
      Kusygin said “Don’t be ridiculous. If we did that, no one would be left in the country except you and me!”.
      Brezhnev: “Speak for yourself!”

    • Andrew Goff says:

      09:37am | 11/11/09

      The classic:
      Q: How many comrades does it take to change a lightbulb?
      A: What’s a lightbulb?

    • Freddo says:

      10:58am | 11/11/09

      Wow Helen,
      it must be an interesting fairy land you live in.

    • Matt says:

      11:03am | 11/11/09

      Helen, jokes are just that. Jokes.

      They are never to be taken seriously, no matter how crude or offensive.

      I feel that our older generations, and some of mine, appear to have lost their sense of humour for the sake of that much abused horse known as “Political Correctness”.

      And actually, we are entitled to freedom of speech. There have been numerous conventions and UN treaties, of which Australia is a signatory, that people have a right to do and say what we want.

      I do fear that in typical police state fashion, our government abuses that, and with the proposed internet filter, it may get even worse.

    • Bob says:

      11:13am | 11/11/09

      Another Reagan joke:

      A Russian wanted a new car. He waited in line all day before finally getting to make his request. The bureaucrat approved the request and said he could collect the car on October 5, 1986, three years away.

      The Russian asked, “Will that be in the morning or the afternoon?”

      Astonished, the bureaucrat asked, “What difference does it make?”

      “Well”, replied the man, “It’s just that the plumber is coming in the morning.”

    • Todd says:

      11:28am | 11/11/09

      Helen at 8.55am

      “Out groups like cyclists” Cycling is the new golf!  The powerful and corporate use cycling like they used to use golf - as a networking opportunity.  Saturday morning’s Bay road is full of white middle and upper management.  The last cyclist I met was a white male fund manager, and the one before was a white male corporate lawyer. 

      These guys are not an out group - they are the in-group

    • pc says:

      12:08pm | 11/11/09

      An American and a Russian were debating who had the better country.

      The American says “Well my country is so free that I can stand outside the White House and criticise the President of the USA.”

      The Soviet says. “Hah, well in my country I too can stand outside the Kremlin and criticise the president of the USA.”

      Great post Helen, Its a shame others didnt get it. Isnt it interesting - (human maybe) that the people who insist loudest about their sense of humour are the same people noticeably lacking in any humour themselves.

    • Helen says:

      12:28pm | 11/11/09

      @pc: Yes, the other commenters made my point abundantly for me. wink

    • Freddo says:

      12:41pm | 11/11/09

      Was that the point about you living in a fairy land Helen?

    • jack says:

      12:42pm | 11/11/09

      thanks Mark for some excellent old jokes, and for your reminder of the evil that was the Soviet Union

    • Pwnstar says:

      12:49pm | 11/11/09

      In Communist Russia the joke laughs at you

    • DaveS says:

      01:14pm | 11/11/09

      So folks of old in the Eastern Bloc were frightened of microphones, informants, any civil liberties being infringed at any time by the whim of the powers that be. Sounds familiar. In the modern West, you can’t walk down the street without being on multiple cameras with microphones, you are utterly forbidden to share a joke with a friend while queueing at an airport, and you can’t openly say what you think of someone without fear of legal reprisal. If some drunken larrikin can’t be led to a quiet room to sleep it off, instead being beaten up by uniformed thugs in the back of a paddy wagon, if the right to say what you want, photograph what you want and think what you want without interference is something both negotiable and subject to the dictates of the Powers That Be, then perhaps it feels like the only difference between Eastern Bloc then and modern west now is the mechanisms and devices of Big Brother are more visible now.

    • John says:

      01:44pm | 11/11/09

      Communism is still alive today, preaching multiculturalism, mass immigration, whites are oppressors, Christianity is oppressive, men are oppressive, whites are racists and fascists. Class-Marxism, has turned into Cultural Marxism, the oppressive culture is over course white European culture and it’s Christianity and guess who is behind this agenda? Lift the rock and who do you see behind this agenda? Thats right it’s them!  They were behind communism and made 80% of inner party membership when communism rose up.

    • papachango says:

      04:22pm | 11/11/09

      Nice to see an ABC radio presenter reminding us of the evils of communism rather than apologising for it, well done!
      It’s worth constantly reminding people what an evil totalitarian ideology it was, as there is a danger it could come back - plenty of uni students and miscellaneous radicals still flirt with Marxism.

      It has also heavily infiltrated the green movement - I’ve even seen some calls for removing property rights for supposedly environmental reasons.

      Anyway my fave joke concerns the former East German communist dictator,  Erich Honecker:

      Early in the morning, Honecker arrives at his office and opens his window. He sees the sun and says: “Good morning, dear Sun!”
      The sun replies: “Good morning, dear Erich!”
      Honecker works, and then at noon he heads to the window and says: “Good day, dear Sun!”
      The sun replies: “Good day, dear Erich!”
      In the evening, Erich calls it a day, and heads once more to the window, and says: “Good evening, dear Sun!”
      The sun is silent.
      Honecker says again: “Good evening, dear Sun! What’s the matter?”
      The sun replies: “Kiss my arse. I’m in the West now.”

    • Eva G. says:

      05:16pm | 11/11/09

      I would expect writer, especially someone who lived in few countries of the former Soviet Block to have better knowledge of such a recent history!
      Lech Walesa was NOT a founder of the Solidarity! He was just one of many workers, who took part in Gdansk Shipyard general strike, and while climbing the fence was spotted by Newsweek paparazzi,  who took picture of him. Then he become popular etc….

      Intelligent, educated leader those days wasn’t “appropriate” for angry masses, so he become right person for the position in the specific circumstances.

    • Tony Maniaty says:

      05:36pm | 11/11/09

      Hi Mark - lovely piece, esp. your memories of Mongolia. When I was covering the former Eastern Bloc for SBS Dateline in ‘91-92, I was told dryly by one guy that that ‘Communism was the longest road from capitalism to capitalism.’ Also this joke: A rather aristocratic lady reaches the head of the long queue at the Soviet-era butcher shop. ‘I’d like some prime rib fillet,’ she says. ‘Sorry lady, absolutely none of that here.’ ‘In that case,’ she says, ‘a nice leg of spring lamb will have to do.’ The butcher: ‘Sorry, not possible.’ The woman: ‘Well, if that’s the siutation, I’ll just have to settle for a nice juicy round of pork.’ The butcher: ‘Afraid not. Listen, lady, all we have today are these few mouldy sausages.’ The woman hmphfs, turns and storms out. The butcher’s assisant watches her go and says, ‘Gee, she doesn’t have any manners.’ The butcher: ‘No, but she has a great memory…’

    • Dave says:

      07:29pm | 11/11/09

      Just after the fall of the Soviet Union a man is part of a crowd is gathering to line up in front of a shop front selling loaves of bread in Moscow. After patiently waiting the door slams shut just as he gets to the front of the line. “Sorry…closed, all bread gone”...says the shopkeeper as he shuts and bolts the doors. The man in furious ..“What is going on?” he loudly demands…‘I have waited in line for hours in this cold and now you’re saying you have no bread? This is crazy, I am so sick of this, damn those fools in the government!” Just then another man, wearing a long black trenchcoat sidles up to him, takes his arm and say” Comrade….comrade…don’t say such things. You remember what used to happen to people who said things like that…go home..go back to your family and bolt the door, sit down and wait for tomorrow, perhaps there will be bread then.”
      The man goes home and locks his door before turning to his wife. “Oh no..” she says..“Don’t tell me they’ve run out of bread?”...“Not only that” the man says…“They’ve also run out of bullets!”.....

    • Bob says:

      10:08pm | 11/11/09

      Wow
      What a historically incorrect piece, but i guess historical confusion penetrates academic circles so well these days.
      You obviously no nothing about the historcal and systematic differences between scientific Marxism and its polar opposite “Stalinism”, or the history of class strugle for that matter. Crisis in capitalism, that is the impoverishment of the masses to save corporate profits (what we’r seeing today, “trillions for the finacial elites RESPONSIBILITY for the workers) must eventually lead to a struggle against it, with good reason.
      I recommend you read “Revolution Betrayed” Leon Trotsky
      regards

    • WK says:

      12:32am | 12/11/09

      An old Russian woman walked into an empty shop in Moscow.
      “I see you have no vegetables today,” she said.
      “No,” replies the shopkeeper. “This is a butcher shop. It’s meat we haven’t got. The shop with no vegetables is further down the street.”

    • Old Clive says:

      07:09am | 12/11/09

      I like the covering photo, it reminds me of the battle about workchoices, somehow I think it has a subliminal messge.

    • Steven of the West says:

      09:35am | 12/11/09

      Bob, 11:08pm,

      I sincerely hope you aren’t as brainwashed as your comment indicates. It’s a shame, but there’s always one die hard out there, devoid of reason and logic, who still proclaims “the glory of communism and the left”.

    • George says:

      09:45am | 12/11/09

      Both Capitalism and Communism suffer from inadequacies. Typically, both sides made fun of one-another in a bid to deflect negative attention away from their own system and it’s policies. Unfortunately this 10,000 years old “tactic ” (one of the many inventions by man that hasn’t been “trumpeted” quite so often throughout history) only seems to function on the uninterested or not so bright chunk-of-society (Leaders: manifestations of the people they rule) and will travel as far as a topic in conversation for the sake of conversation (Ruling for the sake of ruling). The intention? Deflecting a negative opinion of another onto oneself in a hope to spare oneself from the complex emotions that would arise when that same person is forced to reflect (Too hard to change, old habits die hard). I am a perfect example of this demographic. It’s the same reason why i don’t particularly like seeing people i knew back in high school:
      “So what have you been up to?” They ask.
      I reply, “Well…”.
      Interrupting me, they address the G20 summit (figure of speech), “Well, you know, (No i don’t) I’m getting married, I’ve finished my studies and I’ve just been employed. I work as (some-gayly named) manager for a multi-national company (that leeches’ billions of dollars from people on a daily basis…wow, exciting!).”
      ...And I think to myself, (“I’ve got a level 70 Blood Elf Warlock in World of Warcraft. BAMN!”) What a wonderful world smile

    • BJ says:

      09:51am | 12/11/09

      I have a joke from modern-day Ukraine, where I lived for three years. A reflection on the corrupt police.

      The graduate from the Police academy gets a job at the city precinct. He goes there on his first day, and the Chief gives him his uniform, his gun and his badge. The graduate is then dispatched to do his patrol on the streets.

      The first week passes, and the graduate doesn’t come into the office to collect his pay. The Chief doesn’t think much of it, but then the second week passes and the recruit still doesn’t come in to collect his pay. After the third week passes and the grad still doesn’t show up to collect his pay, the Chief calls him into the precinct.

      “What going on?” the Chief says. “You’re doing a good job, but I think it’s a little strange that you don’t want to collect your pay!”

      The graduate answers, “Pay?! I thought you just gave me the badge and the gun, and the rest was up to me!”

      And I thought this was a telling modern reflection on life without communism: http://www.whatson-kiev.com/index.php?go=News&in=view&id=7651

    • Andy W says:

      10:46am | 01/10/10

      In the year 1848 Karl Marx and Freiderich Engels published ” Communist Manifesto ” .  If Karl Marx and Freiderich Engels were honest men , their book would have been called ........ ” Red Bull ” .

 

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