Question Time live 24/06/09

Islander says:

01:22pm | 24/06/09

I’ll take a bet that there will be questions but he’ll get his backbenachers to ask them as he started to do yesterday (see the target of swanie’s “moron” comment)

fidjit says:

02:09pm | 24/06/09

Rudd seemed to know pretty early in the piece that the e-mail was dodgy.
Maybe the AFP were already watching Grech and that e-mail was a put up job to catch out Turnbull.
Malcolm needs to ask Rudd when did he know about the e-mail.
It still could come back to bite Kevvie.

RT says:

02:22pm | 24/06/09

Are you a Lib supporter Islander? It takes either a healthy dose of bias or a dose of paranoia to suggest that the government could have been behind the concoction of the email, instead of what increasingly looks like a strange relationship between the opposition and a public service mole with an unstable personality.  If wondering whether to choose between a set-up or a stuff-up, back the latter.

Rob says:

02:23pm | 24/06/09

Well fidjit, you might be right. But surely, an honest answer from PMC staff, put to them early on by the PM regarding communications, may well have given KR the confidence to condemn the email as fake?

Michael V says:

02:36pm | 24/06/09

This is technically a 500 MILLION dollar phishing scam email.

This email successfully influenced the direction of the allocation of up to half a billion dollars! Even if it did end in failure.

As a full time IT administrator I am absolutely lost for words that the day they announced the email fake that they didn’t at minimum know exactly what PC the email came from within treasury.

To any IT administrator this is as bad as the military loosing nuclear weapons, such security vulnerabilities are not meant to exist period!

How can you argue this should of not been fully investigated by Turnbull or others.

There is obviously serious lack of IT security in the Treasury department, there should be no room to create fake emails ever! The fact they are struggling to work out where the email came from is sending cold shivers down my spine.

Any IT admin will tell you mail servers log the IP address(PC desktop sender address) and other very useful information. This email log activity information stays on the email server and can not be forged, unless it was done directly by an administrator who has full control over the email server.

No matter what happens they must design their network so that fake emails can not control where any money or the like goes.
The person who created this email has to be found and any time not pursing that is going to risk loosing the electronic trail of this serious unbelievable fraud attempt/attack.

Simply put this is a hackers dream, people in charge of billions of dollars doing what ever you say, then on top not even being traceable?
What a joke!

Rob Wilson says:

02:45pm | 24/06/09

“It still could come back to bite Kevvie. “
Really?
There’s a better chance of Kevin being bitten by Keira Knightley than by Ute-gate.

Simon says:

02:56pm | 24/06/09

Michael V,
I agree.
But wouldn’t it be interesting if it was the IT staff (maybe under direction of a mole hunter) that faked the email and sent it to Godwin’s In-box.
Its a plot right out of the Sting.

Chris says:

03:19pm | 24/06/09

@ Micheal V.

This is not a 500 mil $ claim by John Grant. he applied like many other 240 dealers for assistance

the whole OZCAR proposal, in it’s entirety, was $ 500 mil.

are you suggesting John Grants operation holds the equivalent of 20,000 holden commodores, cos that is about $500 mil worth of inventory.

I really think this is where perspective has been lost on this storm in a tea cup.

Antonia says:

03:23pm | 24/06/09

Simon; re the Sting. The plot - yes, the cast - no.

Chris says:

03:31pm | 24/06/09

As for the “sting”.

One of the best ways to trap a cat, is use a rat.

Works every time.

Julie Coker-Godson says:

04:07pm | 24/06/09

I have a sneaking suspicion that the AFP is “keeping its powder dry” on how/when/where/why a fake email was not picked up earlier.  If there is one mole there could be others.  Might I suggest looking in the broom closet on the 2nd floor of the Senate?, (otherwise known as the “Gulag Archipelago”) where the Senate occasionally buries its dead: they could be there now, typing away furiously….....