The Advertising Standards Board is the arbiter of all things proper in advertising.

Fork THIS

But they’re not the nanny-statists some might assume them to be. They have upheld the right for advertisers to use the phrase “fork”, as in, “no forking worries”.

What’s on your plate today, Punchers?

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    • pa_kelvin says:

      04:50am | 30/11/12

      Sometimes life sucks…
      Ma_k and I arrive at our 5 star beach-front resort on the Gold Coast ,are given the keys to our luxury Lagoon view room ,arrive at the room to find a mini mud-cake addressed to ma_k wishing her a happy birthday.
      Ma_k unpacks our few things and hangs them in the robe ,me I’m adjusting the air-con and getting the drinks ready [and firing up the laptop to check postings] when after ½ hour the room seems no cooler, so I play with the thermostat to try to regulate the temperature to no avail… A call to reception has three technicians in our room with-in five minutes, tests and checks are performed which all confirm the unit is cactus.. The head tech calls the front desk and leaves.
      5 minutes later we get a call to say we will be relocated to another room and that they were sending a porter   to collect our luggage.
      Unfortunatly we now have to put up with an ocean view room and in-room spa, something of which I’m sure ma_k is not really happy with seeing as it’s her birthday.. Bastards…  I guess we will just have to manage…
      Life sucks… But not this weekend…

    • TimB says:

      05:49am | 30/11/12

      When life hands you mud…make a mud cake?

      But if life hands you a mud cake, you damn well better eat it.

    • nihonin says:

      05:53am | 30/11/12

      Agree pa_k, don’t you hate it when upgrades due to no fault of your own, aren’t what you wanted.  wink  Have a great weekend.

    • Mahhrat says:

      06:32am | 30/11/12

      Brilliant!  Hope the weather holds fair and you enjoy yourselves.

    • Mouse says:

      07:28am | 30/11/12

      Oh, the fairies I sent are looking after you then!  I hope you guys can tough it out and have a good time anyway.  hehehe

      Mud cake…..spa…..hmmmmm, that gives me an idea….........  lol ;o)

    • Mouse says:

      07:32am | 30/11/12

      Oh, I see the fairies I sent are watching out for you then!  lol
      Have a great time anyway you two, enjoy, enjoy, enjoy   :o)

      Hang on…mud cake….....spa….....hmmmm, that gives me an idea.. lol ;o)

    • pa_kelvin says:

      10:22am | 30/11/12

      Hey guys.. I knew we were in trouble the minute we drove up to the front entry and they started calling me *sir*... gosh its hard to take.. smile

    • toberlone says:

      11:16am | 30/11/12

      Sorry,
      You seem to have mistaken the punch for facebook.
      You old timers and you attempts at “connecting” via social media are a hoot.

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:27am | 30/11/12

      I feel your pain Pa.

      You have a good weekend but please, I know what you old party hard people are like - NO BALCONY HOPPING!!!!

      And Ma - KEEP EM IN YOUR BIKINI TOP!!

      wink

    • pa_kelvin says:

      12:20pm | 30/11/12

      TRD…. Great advice…. To late… We arrived last night..
      I keep telling ma_ k *keep em in there*... but… smile

    • TheRealDave says:

      12:49pm | 30/11/12

      On the Gold Coast - if ‘Schoolies’ are 17-18 year olds…and Toolies are the older 19-25 year olds…does that make you and Ma - Ghoolies?!?!

      *runs*

    • pa_kelvin says:

      03:29pm | 30/11/12

      TRD ...Coolies not Goolies… Goolies are at least 30 years older than us..
      Yep…. Keep Running…. smile

    • acotrel says:

      06:04am | 30/11/12

      Is the Advertising Standards Board a wholly owned subsidiary of Food Standards Australia ?

    • hammy says:

      07:20am | 30/11/12

      It’s official.  Arise “Sir Wowser”!

    • Mahhrat says:

      06:36am | 30/11/12

      I’ve just been appointed to a role with a large private company in their executive team, starting just before Christmas.  Huzzah!

      I suppose that muppet who hated on me for being a public servant will have to find something else to hate on me for. 

      Hope everyone is keeping cool!

    • marley says:

      07:31am | 30/11/12

      Congrats, Mahrat - things are really going your way these days, aren’t they!

    • iansand says:

      07:56am | 30/11/12

      Congratulations, Mahhrat.  I hope that finding someone (anyone) in the public service to actually take responsibility for a decision (or sometimes even make one) does not frustrate you too much.  It is one of the things that drives me spare about dealing with them.

    • iansand says:

      07:57am | 30/11/12

      Congratulations, Mahhrat.  I hope that finding someone (anyone) in the public service to actually take responsibility for a decision (or sometimes even make one) does not frustrate you too much.  It is one of the things that drives me spare about dealing with them.

    • Mahhrat says:

      08:30am | 30/11/12

      @ian:  I’ve previously worked APS; I’m now going to work private.

      One of my reasons for seeking a change was what you described; it drives me batty.

      It’s a damn shame, because theoretically good work is done by public servants - when work is done…

    • Wayne Kerr says:

      09:16am | 30/11/12

      Congrats Mahhrat.  I once worked for the public service, I only lasted 9 months because the bureaucracy drove me crazy.  Is this your first time in private enterprise or was the public service just a stint?

    • Mahhrat says:

      09:50am | 30/11/12

      @Wayne:  Cheers.  This is my third private job, after being a taxi driver and a transcriber for about six months each.  I succeeded fine in both, left for better work.  Apart from that, I am a public servant.

      Despite the poor rap they get, most public service agencies genuinely are trying to do the right thing.  The problem is accountability, and it comes from the top.

      None of our polticians will be held accountable.  That filters down to those who work for them.  That avoidance is the biggest issue.

      I’m backing myself in this new job.  Bit of a risk, but that’s just life, eh.

    • I hate pies says:

      11:10am | 30/11/12

      Geez Mahhrat, now you’ll have to actually do some work…there goes all that free time

    • SimpleSimon says:

      11:11am | 30/11/12

      Congrats, Mahhrat. I took the plunge in to the private sector about 6-7 weeks ago, and so far I haven’t looked back. A bit of a risk, and a bit of a pay cut for now, but to be free of the bureaucracy is just so refreshing. Best of luck to you.

    • Mouse says:

      07:35am | 30/11/12

      Congrats heaps Mahhrat!  Karma can be a beaut, can it not!!  lol
      Geez, this year has been a pretty good one for you!  I hope next year is even better!  :o)

    • Mahhrat says:

      08:28am | 30/11/12

      Cheers mate.  I’m getting married in March, so probably all downhill from there smile

    • subotic says:

      10:22am | 30/11/12

      Are you going for that “gay marriage thing” Mahhrat, or just the “normal” one?

    • Mahhrat says:

      11:47am | 30/11/12

      @Subotic:  Nothing abnormal about gay people marrying mate.

    • Mouse says:

      12:46pm | 30/11/12

      Subbie, who cares, as long as Mahhrat is happy!
      (No disrespect to your lovely fiancee Mahhrat! lol)  :o)

    • subotic says:

      01:06pm | 30/11/12

      uh huh….

      Now, if only our unmarried atheist prime minister and her fellow openly gay ministers felt the same way.

    • SimpleSimon says:

      08:34am | 30/11/12

      I am bored to tears of all the mud slinging going on in Australian politics at the moment. On both sides. I just don’t care. The AWU, the misogyny crap, the wall punching, it’s all utterly meaningless, smoke and mirrors rubbish that’s preventing actual policy debate. Sure, maybe it “speaks to their character”, but my care factor is literally zero. I honestly don’t care if we have a PM who is on the VIP list at every brothel in town, whose golf buddy is also his/her coke dealer, or who donates 95% of their salary to orphan children with no nipples. For f*cks sake, we pay these people to negotiate and implement policy that is in the best interests of the country, why the hell are we wasting so much time and so many f*cking pixels talking about this sh*t? Let’s get over this nonsense and get on with the bloody job!

      /rant

    • Tim says:

      09:15am | 30/11/12

      Completely agree,
      It’s making me angry how so many people can completely lose focus on the important issues and make mountains out of molehills for pure political gain.
      If a crime has been committed, send the evidence to police and let them investigate.
      If you don’t have any evidence, shut the hell up.

    • Wayne Kerr says:

      09:18am | 30/11/12

      Well said Simon +1

    • TimB says:

      09:48am | 30/11/12

      ‘If a crime has been committed, send the evidence to police and let them investigate.’

      Tim, you investigate first, and then find the evidence during the course of the investigation. That’s how these things work.

      Why you insist on doing things backwards mystifies me.

    • Mouse says:

      09:53am | 30/11/12

      I agree SS, but hopefully we will get a break over Christmas. I dread to think what the new year will bring!  :o/

    • Tim says:

      10:07am | 30/11/12

      TimB,
      you investigate what?

      You don’t investigate unless there is evidence that a crime as been committed. The evidence that the PM has committed a crime is extremely thin at best.
      Otherwise you’re just going on a fishing trip (which pretty much describes this episode and Abbott’s wall bashing).


      “I think Tim B is an alcoholic who beats his parents”

      Well we better have an invetigation so TimB can prove his innocence then.
      I will continue to press TimB on this issue until he answers every question I can possibly think of. Any question that he doesn’t answer straight away to my satisfaction, is simply proof of his guilt.

      You see how it works?

    • Tim says:

      10:15am | 30/11/12

      Oh and I forgot to add that the police have already fully investigated this matter previously and no one got charged.

    • subotic says:

      10:20am | 30/11/12

      What took you so long SS is the real bloody thing in question here….

    • Philosopher says:

      10:21am | 30/11/12

      @Tim and TimB, brothers shouldn’t fight. Read Genesis (again) and make up.

    • AdamC says:

      10:41am | 30/11/12

      Must we really Julia-ise the open thread when there are two AWU-Gate threads already?

      BTW, speaking of AWU-Gate threads, my comments seem to be going missing on the Benson thread.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      10:51am | 30/11/12

      I’m wondering if Tim and TimB are actually the one person, as in Cybil… smile

    • Anubis says:

      10:51am | 30/11/12

      @ Tim -  “the police have already fully investigated this matter previously and no one got charged”

      I suppose then Tim that is why the Victorian Police and the WA Police have active investigations currently happening into this AWU/Gillard/Wilson/Blewitt affair.  Apparently the VicPol are also still actively investigating Thomson. Must be because there is no indication of possible wrongdoing, the Police just do this to fill in the time between 9 and 5 I suppose.

    • Tim says:

      10:52am | 30/11/12

      OK Adam C,
      I’ll stop.

      How about that weather? 36 degrees and humid today, hot damn.

    • SimpleSimon says:

      10:57am | 30/11/12

      @subotic - I’d say “that’s what she said”, but that just isn’t the case :-(

    • TimB says:

      11:29am | 30/11/12

      ‘You don’t investigate unless there is evidence that a crime as been committed. ‘

      Wrong. You don’t investigate unless there is evidence that a crime may have been committed. And we’ve got plenty of stuff to indicate that to be the case. Wether or not Julia was involved and to what extent is why the questions are being asked. Thats the investigation.

      For some reason you want absolute proof of a crime before said crime is investigated. If you already have proof, you don’t need to investigate.

      ‘“I think Tim B is an alcoholic who beats his parents”

      Well we better have an invetigation so TimB can prove his innocence then.
      I will continue to press TimB on this issue until he answers every question I can possibly think of. Any question that he doesn’t answer straight away to my satisfaction, is simply proof of his guilt.

      You see how it works? ‘

      Do you have anything to support that hypothesis? Pictures of my parents with bruises? Copious quantities of empty booze bottles in my garbage? Anything? No?

      Contrast:

      We know that the Association existed. existed. We know money was moved through accounts set up in relation to the association. We know the identities of two of the men involved with those accounts.We know Julia was involved in some legal work relating to that association. We know that at the very least, the legal work involved was not undertaken with the expected level of care. We know that Julia had a close association with both of the aforementioned men.

      There’s enough odd things there to warrant further questions/investigations to determine the full extent of the matter and whether or not something criminal occurred. Call it a fishing expedition if you like. But that’s how investigations work.

    • Tim says:

      11:49am | 30/11/12

      Anubis,
      they’re investigating because someone sent them some information.

      If I ring up the police and say “Anubis murdered my grandmother” I’m sure they’d investigate too. Doesn’t actually mean that you did it or even that a crime was committed.
      The fact that you take it to be evidence of anything says more about you than it does about any crime.

      ps. But seriously, did you murder my grandmother? I always thought it was old age, but you’re being particularly cagey? Hmmm, investigation time.

      Ok, now I’ll stop.

    • Baloo says:

      12:39pm | 30/11/12

      The replies to simplesimons comment.. ugh..

      Did you guys even TRY to hold back?

    • ibast says:

      08:51am | 30/11/12

      So I was sitting in traffic yesterday afternoon and glanced over at the Catholic Club and noticed they were advertising based on their role in the community.

      This got me thinking.  In recent debates, clubs have been playing the community card to justify their position.

      My first question is; can Catholic clubs really claim this?  It seems to me the primary existence of a Catholic club is to raise money for the Catholic Arch diocese.  Sure they have members, but serving those members is not the primary role of the club.

      Now clubs are allowed more leaway with regards Poker machine.  At least in NSW..  So, should Catholic clubs really be allowed this leaway too.

      Also, should we call Bullshit when Catholic clubs try to pull the community card?

      My final question is a moral one.  We know Poker machines target the poor and elderly, so is it moral for a religious organisation to raise money through them?

    • hammy says:

      10:45am | 30/11/12

      I would like to reply to this, but The Punch doesn’t publish pro-Christian contributions…I have proved this many times.

    • ausspud says:

      11:47am | 30/11/12

      Although I dont personally believe the Pokies are targeting the poor or the elderly as I think only a small amount has poker machine problem.
      Catholic Clubs I dont have a problem with,but having Poker machines seems like a conflict of interest,It will be like opening a Brothel when preaching abstinence.The only gambling they should be doing is Bingo & Raffles.

    • Trevor says:

      09:45am | 30/11/12

      I noticed today that they now sell vibrators in chemist shops. Not just the discreet little ‘button buzzers’, but the full phallic versions.

      Now call me crazy, but until they sell rubber vaginas alongside, isn’t that sexism?

    • Anubis says:

      09:58am | 30/11/12

      Interesting point there Trevor. However vibrators are a celebration of female sexuality but rubber vaginas are a degradation and demeaning to women. You can’t allow male sexuality to be celebrated. It is just not pc.

    • Tim says:

      10:09am | 30/11/12

      Are you sure you weren’t looking at the vibrating massaging equipment.

      Like em big hey?

    • AFR says:

      10:51am | 30/11/12

      Trevor, you could save the money and use your hand?

    • fml says:

      11:05am | 30/11/12

      Hahaha

      AFR, kwalitee..

    • Trevor says:

      11:15am | 30/11/12

      AFR- women could save their money and use their fingers!

      I equate this misandrist outrage with the furore the feminist movement had when they discovered that men get their hair cut cheaper than they can.

      Since then I have to pay $30 for a haircut.

      So bring on the rubber vaginas.

    • gobsmack says:

      11:19am | 30/11/12

      “Isn’t that sexism?”

      No.  Men can use them too.

    • Trevor says:

      11:30am | 30/11/12

      ‘Men can use them too’

      Nothing better than vibrator races down the pub on Australia Day!

    • Philosopher says:

      11:39am | 30/11/12

      Trevor, they do sell rubber vaginas in chemists; they are called condoms.

    • ausspud says:

      11:52am | 30/11/12

      Or small Men can use their fingers
      Gobsmack
      I really wish you didn’t.

    • Wickerman says:

      12:38pm | 30/11/12

      I agree they need to start selling Fleshlights, BTW thats not a spelling mistake. But gobsmack makes a good point as well.

    • Mouse says:

      12:44pm | 30/11/12

      LOL… just LOL   :oD

    • SimpleSimon says:

      01:31pm | 30/11/12

      @Trevor - “Since then I have to pay $30 for a haircut. So bring on the rubber vaginas.”

      LOL!! Classic!

    • Jess says:

      09:55am | 30/11/12

      I have come to the conclusion that the disability pension should come with mandatory weekly counselling for those with either depression or those with Aspergers. Either situation it will help and I don’t think ‘don’t like people’ is an excuse to not work. I know plenty of people with Aspergers who do work and are good at their jobs.

      I know kids with Aspergers who’s parents are trying to push them towards a career in academia cos they will know everything about what they study.  These kids are 9.

    • Trevor says:

      10:22am | 30/11/12

      Madatory MDMA treatment would be much better. And I’m serious.

    • subotic says:

      09:56am | 30/11/12

      I’m an ex-smoker of over 20 years, but I swear all this talk on the Punch about that sexy new-look plain packaging totally makes me wanna grab a pack of Laramie Hi-Tar and just suck my lungs dry….

      Go the reverse psychology, honest to zombie Elvis.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      10:03am | 30/11/12

      Hey sunny you there?? You need to remove Lightning Volt TM from the market, apparently there is something wrong with the Flux Core Capacitor TM that can reverse polarity causing an explosive reaction to occur…
      I’m not talking Hiroshima, but you get the idea.. smile

    • sunny says:

      06:53pm | 30/11/12

      pa_kelvin - Cheers for the heads up. Nah can’t take it off the market, it’s making too much coin. Have spoken to the lawyers and they said we just need to put a warning on the side of the box “Caution: Failure to service the Flux Core Capacitor (TM) may vaporize your neighbourhood”

    • Philosopher says:

      10:42am | 30/11/12

      subotic is on fire today!
      Had a good time last night, you lucky bugger? wink

    • subotic is a wasted life says:

      11:03am | 30/11/12

      I blame the drugs.

      Honest tho Philo, I’d be more on fire if the bastards would publish half the crap I post.

      It’s the stuff you don’t see (and gets printed and pinned up on the side of the Punch staff-room fridge) that really sets me apart from the average run-of-the-MRE troll on here.

      Eeehhh….

    • Philosopher says:

      11:28am | 30/11/12

      every great artist suffers and is misunderstood.

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:59am | 30/11/12

      I’m with Subo on this - some of my best stuff ends up on the Punch cutting room floor - for example my treatise on why AFL is fantastic for the chronically depressed jsut yesterday :(

    • Philosopher says:

      12:18pm | 30/11/12

      the Punch moderator is sort of like God:
      1. you will never see Him
      2. His very existence is often questioned
      3. His ways are mysterious and maddening
      4. One can as easily lose faith with His judgement
      5. But ultimately one must accept His word, as one has no Choice.

    • Baloo says:

      12:41pm | 30/11/12

      How sexist of you to think God is a male!!

    • TheRealDave says:

      12:52pm | 30/11/12

      From memory ‘Good’ Tory (not to be confused with ‘Evil’ Tory)  is the Punch moderator…..so it would be “She/Her” ??

      But I am willing to be corrected….

    • hammy says:

      01:15pm | 30/11/12

      Just not a Christian God…obviously.

    • Philosopher says:

      01:40pm | 30/11/12

      Baloo, I think of God as kind of like Senator Steve Fielding: you call him a male, but in reality he has characteristics of both genders.

    • sunny says:

      07:00pm | 30/11/12

      A while back I told Tory that I got turned on every time she called bullshit. I think that was a mistake.

    • ibast says:

      10:43am | 30/11/12

      Did anybody else notice the variable sound quality for the ARIAs last night?  I saw one song by some sheila I’ve never seen before (Blonde hair, no arse (I was wondering what she sits on)).  I was convinced she was singing about a shovel.  Turns out the word (the only one I could hear) was Trouble.

    • Philosopher says:

      10:57am | 30/11/12

      a billion screaming tweenies will tear you apart for that comment.

    • gobsmack says:

      11:23am | 30/11/12

      I watched the One Direction doco beforehand.

      It was very touching when the one with the hair started getting teary when he recounted how, after a crap live performance, he started getting hate tweets.

    • subotic says:

      11:28am | 30/11/12

      Holy Ancient Alien rip-offs Batman, the Futuram calendar says that Ridley Scott’s mother expelled him from her womb on this day in 1937!

      Must admit I can’t deny the fact I still dig Bladerunner over Prometheus, but hey, I’m just a washed up old cyber-punk deep down…

    • ausspud says:

      11:31am | 30/11/12

      Congrat’s to The Punch.
      The only place in the World that runs a competition with no winner wink

    • ibast says:

      02:25pm | 30/11/12

      spending the day, posting on an internet forum.

      There are no winners here.

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:34am | 30/11/12

      Aha! Two Birds - 1 Stone - A ‘Win’ for the Lads!

      AKA ‘How to fight the Family Court System as a man and win!’

      http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/transgender-father-wins-custody-clash/story-fnet085v-1226526988113

      Simple lads - in order to get shared custody of your kids - get your block and tackle cut off and embrace life as a woman!

      And, as an added bonus, become a sex worker and advertise it on facebook - as a woman - and STILL get full shared custody of your kids!!

      So, we can prove two things correct:

      1) overt bias towards women
      2) even a hooker who advertises on Facebook, has a drug/alcohol history,  gets her kids photographed next to adults in sexual poses (sexuality irrelevant) will still get 50% shared custody

      So get to it lads! Chop Chop!

    • Slothy says:

      01:37pm | 30/11/12

      “allowed them to be photographed at the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras family fun day.” Let me emphasise that - a family fun day.

      “Federal Magistrate Joe Harman said the mother had “further concerns” about “inappropriate matters being posted on ‘Ms Parer’s’ facebook page” and “Ms Parer advertising for clients as a sex worker and/or engaging in such work”.
      However, there was no further explanation of the allegations given in the judgment.” - I thought you guys liked unsubstantiated claims to be dismissed?

      “The parents were married for 12 years after meeting in alcohol and drug rehabilitation.” - So they both had a history of drug and alcohol problems?

      I’m not convinced that you’re the one to be talking about ‘bias’

    • fml says:

      01:47pm | 30/11/12

      Well the ex missus usually gets to keep them anyway so might as well move up from metaphor to reality..

    • vox says:

      12:12pm | 30/11/12

      You are wrong again, TimB. As usual you just twist the truth to suit your childish arguments.
      First there must be evidence of a crime being committed. Then the matter is investigated. Then any person found to be complicit in that crime is charged.
      You are the one who thinks that everybody should be questioned about a crime that has not been shown to have been committed.
      Perhaps you are of the opinion that Abbott should be questioned about the paedophiles he associated with in the semenary. “There’s no evidence of that”, you quite rightly say. And you are right, but using your logic, one, he hasn’t denied it, and two, how do we know unless we question him.
      You still haven’t told us why our young soldiers were sent to die in the Middle East by Howard, Abbott and Co. And you ducked the Constitutional illegality attached to Howard and Abbott’s “Work for the Dole” scheme. Do you remember?
      For your info, it’s Sec. 51, subsec xxiiiA. Now there’s a crime for you to get your teeth into. That’s if you were fair dinkum, which of course you are not.
      Anubis, the police have been investigating this AWU matter for ages. Have they found any evidence of wrongdoing by Gillard? Nup!  Has Abbott? Nup!
      What about the “Plastic face”? Has she found any evidence? Nup!
      The only evidence for Abbott and Bishop pursuing Gillard is that she had the temerity to whip Howard’s backside in ‘07, and then completely outwit Abbott in ‘10. How dare she! And, (this part cracks me up), she’s a lady!

    • Ben C says:

      01:03pm | 30/11/12

      @ vox

      Wrong - there must be SUSPICION of a crime being committed. It is then up to the investigation to determine if there has been a crime committed, by uncovering evidence in the form of physical matter or witness reports.

      If you want to prove someone wrong, make sure you get your facts correct.

    • fml says:

      01:40pm | 30/11/12

      BenC,

      Vox is right, the suspicion is based on evidence, you can’t just go on a “gut feeling”.

    • TimB says:

      01:45pm | 30/11/12

      ‘If you want to prove someone wrong, make sure you get your facts correct. ‘

      Also Ben, it’s useful to make sure you’re arguing with the correct person. I have no idea why, but Vox insists on rabbitting on about something to do with Work for the Dole. I’ve never even discussed the issue with him nor put forward any paticular viewpoint. Yet he still seems to think he’s pulled a gotcha on me.

      Ah well. He’s an excitable little chap. Kind of like a chihuahua. I usually leave him to ramble on alone down here looking silly, it seems to keep him amused. It sure as heck amuses me.

    • Draconian says:

      05:00pm | 30/11/12

      Hate to burst your bubble vox, but Gillard didn’t whip Howards backside in 2007.  That would’ve been Kevin Rudd or at least Maxine McKew for his local seat.  As for your rant - what the?

    • Anubis says:

      02:14pm | 30/11/12

      Slush Fund TRD - The purpose of the fund was clear, all donations were voluntary and no union or employer funds were stolen/misappropriated/embezzled. WA Corporate Affairs were not misled by a “young and naive” lawyer, no powers of attorney were falsely witnessed nor backdated.  I think there is a big difference between the two. Although I disagree with the purpose of that fund there was no illegal actions involved.

      You tried this one the other day and I responded with the smae. You did not reply because you could not.

    • Chris L says:

      04:18pm | 30/11/12

      But why the secrecy from Abbot about this, Anubis? He must have something to hide. Questions should be asked until someone gets an answer they can use against him.

      PS. They all lie and they’re all dodgy. Seems to be the nature of the beast.

    • TheRealDave says:

      06:33pm | 30/11/12

      Given that the rAbbott won’ divulge the names of the people contributing funds to the slush funds we have no idea who, what or where the money came from.

      And I probably didn’t reply because after I get home from work and have dinner the Punch has closed for comments :(

      Damn you Daylight Savings time in southern states!!

    • hammy says:

      01:59pm | 30/11/12

      Since women are demanding and rejoicing the removal of facial hair, are men able to demand and rejoice the removal of women’s hair (facial, downstairs..where ever)?

    • AdamC says:

      03:31pm | 30/11/12

      I dunno about other Punchers, but today was one of the worst days ever for me of comments never being posted and/or taking ages to be uploaded.

    • Chris L says:

      04:27pm | 30/11/12

      I found it more distressing a week or so ago when Louise responded to me, in an article about Pell and the royal commission, by changing my words around to alter their meaning and even included quotation marks to compound the dishonesty. Cut off time for comments came and went, and my scathing slam dunk of a rebuttal never appeared :-(

    • Draconian says:

      05:04pm | 30/11/12

      I think they went out to lunch and didn’t bother coming back.  Or came back drunk..  raspberry

    • sami says:

      06:28pm | 30/11/12

      In response to the article on Mayer, maybe it’ll pass moderation on this topic? -

      Wow. Why try and pull her down because her situation is different to yours? Obviously she would have struggled too if she had medical difficulties and post-natal depression. Or if she wasn’t rich. Or if she didn’t have her husbands support (who was not mentioned- because surely men can have no part in raising a child? Must be nannies, right?).

      Far out. Honestly, this article gave me the shits. I’m sorry your situation sucked but please don’t speak for all of us. She is not setting benchmarks. She is not telling anyone to do what she has done. She is living her life the best way for her and her family. You do not have to ‘live up to’ that.
      Why can you not be happy with what you have? Why do you want to be a ‘corporate psychopath’? I come to work every day and do my average job with pretty okay pay considering I have no tertiary education. I go home and have dinner with my boyfriend. I spend time with my dogs and cats. I read a book. I have a roof over my head, normal health, food and drink, transportation, family and friends, all my limbs, enough money to usually buy things that I need when I need them and be comfortable. I am stoked with my life, there is nothing wrong with it. I don’t aspire to be a kick-arse CEO just because I’m told I should. I don’t necessarily want a baby because I’m told I should. I embrace my ambitions, or lack of, am am happy doing what I want to do. Why push myself to those heights and make myself unhappy?

      “Mayer has created the illusion of juggling work and motherhood when she is doing anything but. She’s not raising that child. How could she?”
      She is doing what so many male CEOs do and yet you don’t tear them down. What’s the difference? If you’re going to be mean, be mean to everyone in that position equally. Just because she is a woman doesn’t mean she needs to be shackled to her child while her husband goes and brings home the bacon. This is 2012.

      “And she needs to come clean about it before another generation of women beat themselves up trying to achieve the unachievable.”
      No, YOU are the one implying that women should want what Mayer has, not her. She sets out her situation and says she is lucky. Damn right she is. Never has she said ‘oh hey kids, you should aim for this too’. She also says she’s good at prioritising. Obviously she is. Not all of us are, but who cares? We are all individuals. And what about the guys who are brought up to think they need to go and kick arse and be successful and support people? Maybe they’re satisfied with mediocrity too, and why can’t they be? Why be shamed or pressured into it? Mayer should not feel guilty about her success any more than any male in her position should. It is HER LIFE to do with as she pleases.

      I’m a proud feminist but that doesn’t mean I say all women need to go out and aim to be CEOs. No, women should aim to be whatever they damn well please, be that a CEO or a mother or a train driver or a cleaner or a lawyer or bloody whatever. Or a combination. Doesn’t matter. The point is that we have the choice. You saying we should aspire to be a CEO balancing work and motherhood takes away that choice.

      Have another think about it.

 

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