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    • iansand says:

      06:05am | 30/10/12

      Caption:  So this is what happens when Melbourne gets excited.

    • Gregg says:

      08:05am | 30/10/12

      Would you not get excited too if you found a whale had been washed up into your backyard!

    • LJ Dots says:

      04:45pm | 30/10/12

      Gregg, I was working on the same theme, but alas, you beat me to the punch, as it were.

      Caption: Public outrage at cynical ploy by Sea Shepherd to increase funding.

    • nihonin says:

      06:13am | 30/10/12

      Who ‘pulled’ that one off.

    • Gregg says:

      08:06am | 30/10/12

      You got those pants wet again didn’t you?

    • nihonin says:

      08:55am | 30/10/12

      If I could pee like that Gregg, I’d be smiling.  wink

    • Mahhrat says:

      06:25am | 30/10/12

      “That’s what she said”.

    • nihonin says:

      06:33am | 30/10/12

      She ‘gushed’ with excitement.

    • Christian Real says:

      07:05am | 30/10/12

      caption:” Eat your heart out America,our Geysers are bigger”

    • TimB says:

      08:07am | 30/10/12

      Somehow I don’t think America cares.

    • iansand says:

      09:23am | 30/10/12

      America’s geysers, even the famous Old Faithful, are pathetic geothermal burps compared to New Zealand’s.

    • sunny says:

      07:31am | 30/10/12

      “I honestly don’t know what happened officer - I was sitting on a water main in Glen Waverley eating my sandwiches, then everything is just a blur - I must have blacked out, then I woke up here in Clayton North dripping wet and stuck up in this tree.”

    • Barrel of Monkeys says:

      07:50am | 30/10/12

      And introducing Mr Glen Waverley, king of the money shot!

    • stephen says:

      07:51am | 30/10/12

      ‘Everyone, now, has in Glen Waverley a reason to have a bath.’

    • Anubis says:

      07:58am | 30/10/12

      When is the Prime Minister going to launch a tirade in Parliament about the mysogonistic, sexist, racist, homophobes who run the South Australian Labor cabal? She did proclaim that she would attack mysogynism whenever and wherever it occurs. Or is that just another empty promise from the Red headed bint?

      BTW - any comment on the reports that gearing up for Gillard’s “Asian Century” is going to cost up to $10 billion into education in order to resource her fairytale paper. Where is the money coming for this? Will she pull it out of the magic barrel with which she is funding Gonskie, NDIS, Dental Scheme, etc?

    • wolf says:

      10:16am | 30/10/12

      It’s OK Anubis - Farrell was pressured into ‘voluntarily’ dropping down the ticket.  So much for the will of the grassroots party.
      Does anyone know if the PM’s fairytale paper mentioned funding for additional data links into Asia?  Currently the Perth - Singapore link is down for maintenance, meaning all traffic to asia routes via the US or Japan.  Not really the most efficient way to go about things.
      Also, anyone else see that our latest client state for uranium (India) has recently had two serious leaks at a nuclear facilitiy, and the Indian Auditor Generals deparment has found serious problems with the safety at their facilities in general?  Yet another exceptional piece of judgement from our government.
      These are the same people that introduced two new taxes with a neutral or even negative effect on government revenue.  That takes special talent.

    • PJ says:

      11:33am | 30/10/12

      The Asian Century paper is a sad attempt to convince us that Lindsay Tanner was wrong in his book, that the Gillard Government is not bereft of vision and purpose.

      I mean, saying the Asia PAC is the home of big growth and emerging markets, that China has a huge influence in the area and we should all learn Mandarin.

      come on how insightful is that really. We should be scared the Gillard Government is only realising this now for heavens sake.

      As for the plan to implant Chinese knowledge into Australia’s boardrooms and Leadership groups, well thats just a continuation of 457 visas and positive discrimination.

      Conclusion: Pile of dung

    • Rosie says:

      08:10am | 30/10/12

      Why can’t all Australian State Primary Schools be like the Walkerville Primary School, Walkerville South Australia.

      Naplan results exceeds the national and state average. I have also noticed the school doesn’t have any fat children. Apart from the children participating in team sport like netball, hockey, basketball they can now take up Tai Quan Do for their fitness and self defense. What more do we want? Gillard Labor Govt could stop telling us that the Labor Party is the party for better education and come to the Walkerville Primary to see how it is really done. One thing they cannot do is offer the children places in this school because of the zoning. You would have to have the right address for your child to attend the school in this wealthy suburb where a 2 bedroom unit will cost no less than $600k. If it can be done at Walkerville Primary State School why not all the other Primary schools? Perhaps it is because the school is in a wealthy area and the parent participation is vital in making sure that their children’s well being is top priority. Isn’t that when Govts steps in to play the guardian for the children that aren’t fortunate enough to live in wealthy suburbs.

      PS BER - money was spent to pull down old classrooms for flash new ones. Not necessary as far as I was concerned but when you are offered by a Govt known for its wasteful spending why not?

    • Blind Freddy says:

      10:52am | 30/10/12


      “Gillard Labor Govt could stop telling us that the Labor Party is the party for better education and come to the Walkerville Primary to see how it is really done.”

      Uhm, isn’t education predominately a state issue? Isn’t SA a Labor state?Doh!

    • acotrel says:

      01:35pm | 30/10/12

      I love it !  - The Federal and Victorian Governments should go to Melbourne High school and see how it is done

    • AJ in Perth says:

      01:57pm | 30/10/12

      “Why can’t all Australian State Primary Schools be like the Walkerville Primary School, Walkerville South Australia.

      Naplan results exceeds the national and state average.”

      because then even the great Walkerville PS will be average ...

    • marley says:

      02:29pm | 30/10/12

      @acotrel - yes, they should all copy Melbourne High.  Exclude all the kids who can’t pass the entrance exam because they aren’t too smart, or because they had a lousy primary education, or because they’ve just arrived in the country and don’t speak English.  Now the question then is, what do we do with all those kids that fail admission to high school?

    • Rosie says:

      02:56pm | 30/10/12

      You guys can crap on as much as you like but in Grades 3,5,and 7 only 3 or 4 of the kids failed to achieve the state average which was higher than the national average. In the school Naplan newsletter we were told these kids were going to have extra tutoring for that reason. That is the kind of push I am talking about and should apply to all Primary schools.

    • Jim says:

      08:12am | 30/10/12

      “Meh…this government blows harder.”

    • gnome says:

      08:30am | 30/10/12

      Rev enquired yesterday on respective figures for coal export- Newcastle and Hay Point- I looked it up but it was after 8.00 EDT so here it is-

      Hay point 44 million tonnes capacity, being upgraded to 55 million

      Newcastle- 163 million tonnes capacity, being upgraded to 200 million (or 223- hard to figure out from the website I got the figures from).

    • Philosopher says:

      01:28pm | 30/10/12


    • ibast says:

      08:32am | 30/10/12

      Barry was so proud of his new water feature.

    • Peter Yo says:

      09:21am | 30/10/12

      Casually walking up an escalator at Paramatta station.
      About 7 people in front of me. A number that usually means good luck. Today was not to be so.
      2 people are standing right in the middle of the escalator. I walk behind the first one. “excuse me” I say, she politely moves to the side to let me through. I thank her. Knowing I have now made a friend for life.
      Second one, roughly a 45 year old slightly overweight lady smelling of cats, goes to hold both sides of the escalator. “Excuse me” I say politely. She doesn’t move. I take my ear phones out not realising that this will not help her hear me. “Excuse me”, I say a little more forcefully waving my hand through the air summoning all of my Jedi powers. She doesn’t move. Discovered a powerful Sith, I have. Excuse me, I practically yell at her. She still doesn’t move. I go to move through her arm not realising this is something of a mating call to her. She holds firm, the usual move done by her type to show her disinterest in my unintended sexual advances. I didn’t want to hurt her so I decide to call her a f@#$%^& idiot and tell her to act like an adult. She yells back telling me to yell a little louder. I left knowing that I was out of my depth in a game of stupidity.

      But seriously; are people really that moronic that they believe they have the right to take up the entire escalator? She had no issues walking after she got off the escalator so she didn’t have to be holding both sides.
      I politely asked her to move to the side. A reasonable request and is often seen as part of escalator etiquette.

    • ibast says:

      09:54am | 30/10/12

      Should have thrown a chip to one side of the elevator.

    • Elphaba says:

      10:14am | 30/10/12

      A similar thing with train seats bugs me.  If someone tried to make me climb over them after I have politely asked them to move over, I get down close to their face and say “Get up” loud enough for the entire carriage to hear.

      Never have I had a problem with people moving like greased lightning after this exchange.  Powerful Sith, indeed.

    • TimB says:

      11:00am | 30/10/12

      Always two seats the Sith occupy. No more, no less.

      And yes Peter, some people are just jerks.

      A while back I was on the train home from work, and was coming up on my station. So I began the short trek from my seat in the upper carraige to the exit point of the train. Unbeknownst to me, someone at the Macquarie Dictionary had apparently changed the definition of ‘stairwell’ to ‘seat’. As a result my passage was blocked by a dole bludger weary from a long day at the beach.
      His girlfriend, clearly less exhausted than he (she was standing), noted my strange desire to use the stairwell as its designers originally intended and pointed out this fact to her boyfriend. At which point he turned around, looked me up and down, and returned to his previous activities.
      Perhaps noting my office attire, he assumed that I was representative of an advanced civilisation that had perhaps developed some form of phasing technology, allowing me to move through solid objects at will. Alas when I corrected his misapprehension and asked him to move from his ‘seat’, I was loudly informed that I was a ‘fucking dickhead’.
      Now I’ve been told that this is how representitives of this paticular culture greets each other. But given the angry tone of the indecipherable sounds that continued to follow for the next 30 seconds as the train came to a stop, I sensed that this wasn’t actually meant as the friendly greeting others may have assumed.

      In the meantime, my research continues on a developing a handheld disintergrator, just in case I ever run into a similar situation in the future.

    • bella starkey says:

      11:35am | 30/10/12

      Try catching trains at museum station. The rudest commuters in Sydney. If they aren’t blocking you from getting off the train, like its a big suprise everytime the train doors open that people may want to disembark, they are completely ignoring the concept of keeping left and blocking you from getting to the train on the platform.

      It is seriously the only station in sydney I have experienced people being so selfish in their commuting.

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:43am | 30/10/12

      ....or you could wait the 20 seconds it takes for the escalator to get to the top instead of being a knob?

    • Elphaba says:

      11:46am | 30/10/12

      @TimB, I think I ran into that bloke at the pub last night.  He had quite a selection of colourful language once he as asked to leave by the bar staff.

      The other thing that bugs me is the quiet carriages.  I’ve had a few experiences with them now, having to travel up for the bridesmaid duties a few times over the past couple of months.  They are the biggest waste of time ever.  Firstly, trains are sometimes noisy.  People should just suck it up, move to another carriage or buy a set of headphones.  Secondly, because the guards etc won’t enforce it, they leave it up to the passengers, which just means that passengers end up abusing one another when someone gets above a loud whisper.

      I’d rather Shittyrail spent more money on cleaners and less on friggin’ focus groups populated by twats who want to travel to work in a bubble…

    • Peter Yo says:

      12:08pm | 30/10/12

      Politely asking an able bodied person to step to the side so i dont miss the last bus from Paramatta to Bass Hill for another half hour is not being a knob.
      The fact is; said woman completely ignored me and didnt take any measures to explain her lack of moving.
      It is common courtesy in Australia to move to the left be it walking, standing or driving.
      I was not rude in the beginning and only became rude after i got tired of stupid little games played by a person who feels they were entitled to be a douche.
      As I said, she was perfectly abled and was able to yell at me and walk off fine after she got off the escalator.

      If you think im a knob because i spent my day at work and wanted to get home an undwind, without waiting the extra half hour for the next bus, and was annoyed that a person went out of their way to deter me then i would suggest that your efinition of a knob is a touch off.

    • Bugs says:

      12:59pm | 30/10/12

      @TimB - give a shout out to Marvin the Martian, he always had a disintegrator in hand :D

    • AJ in Perth says:

      01:28pm | 30/10/12

      in my experience, people tend to move on nicely on stairs ...

    • TheRealDave says:

      02:21pm | 30/10/12

      If you need that extra 20 seconds I suggest planning your time better.

      I block the escalator and I have yet to have any problem with anyone trying to push past me. Why do I block it?? I do it when I have my missus and kids infront of me. I’d far prefer inconveniencing you for 20 seconds - at most, than have you charge past and possibly knock one of them over. In my 39 and a bit years on the planet I have not once felt the need to get in front of someone on an escalator.

      As I said, its 20 seconds max. Don’t be a self involved knob. The world will not end. Someone else won’t beat you to that cancer cure. You’re WoW raid won’t leave without you. A lot less stress about 20 bloody seconds from people and we’d see a lot less angst running/driving around. You really aren’t that important. Slow down.

      Ok, I’ll fess up…sometimes I block it when on my own…. I’m a pretty big bloke and, as is my want, sometimes it amuses me to see someone charging up the escalator pushing past people…and then come to a dead halt behind me….and then I ride it all the way up and take my time stepping off….yes, I can be petty at times…..but it amuses me….but at least I admit it wink

    • TimB says:

      03:06pm | 30/10/12

      “I do it when I have my missus and kids infront of me. I’d far prefer inconveniencing you for 20 seconds - at most, than have you charge past and possibly knock one of them over.”

      Dave, how about you teach your kids some common courtesy and tell them to keep to the left when on an escalator.

      It’s big enough for two people to pass for a reason- People remaining stationary stand to the left, people taking the faster option pass on the right.

      Your kids won’t be knocked over if you keep them on the left.

    • Chris L says:

      03:11pm | 30/10/12

      @TheRealDave - I get 40 minutes for my lunchbreak and that must include travelling to and from where I eat. I suffer a genetic fault in that my trachea is narrow and makes choking a definate risk when I eat too fast, therefore I prefer to spend time sitting and eating carefully rather than spend it standing on an escalator as if it were a ride at an amusement park. Trust me, when stairs are available I take them, but that is not often an option.

      I’m with Peter on this one. It’s no hardship to stand to the left, and if a person has to squeeze past you they can probably get past the rest of your family without knocking them over the railing.

    • AJ in Perth says:

      03:36pm | 30/10/12

      seriously, as a percentage of people who make a point of it to block your way (looking at you Dave!!!) vs those that move out of the way either out of their free will (it does happen!) or after being asked, isn’t this a non-issue?

    • Peter Yo says:

      03:43pm | 30/10/12

      @The RealDave “Ok, I’ll fess up…sometimes I block it when on my own…. I’m a pretty big bloke and, as is my want, sometimes it amuses me to see someone charging up the escalator pushing past people…and then come to a dead halt behind me….and then I ride it all the way up and take my time stepping off….yes, I can be petty at times…..but it amuses me….but at least I admit it”

      Yep, and im the knob. Makes so much sense -.-
      Really mate? Me wanting to get past someone in a polite and respectful manner means im self involved.

      Because someone goes out of their way to inconvinience me for that 20 seconds when it would be much easier for all involved if she to one side? That makes me more of a knob?

      Get your hand off it champ.

    • subotic says:

      09:24am | 30/10/12

      Smoking Rates in Australia Continue to Decline

      Smoking rates and unhealthy levels of alcohol consumption are down, but the percentage of adults who are overweight or obese has increased rates of diabetes have remained stable after trending up over the last decade, but mental health problems and behavioural conditions have risen, according to the results of the Australian Health Survey, issued on 29 October.

      Smoking rates and unhealthy levels of alcohol consumption are down, but the percentage of adults who are overweight or obese has increased?

      Thanks Big Brother, stop us from drinking & smoking… and now we get fat and lose our freakin’ minds.

      Good job. Idiots…

    • Damian says:

      09:59am | 30/10/12

      What?  the gubmint’s been running advertising campaigns to increase obesity and worsen mental health?

    • Zeta says:

      10:22am | 30/10/12

      I gain a kilogram for every day I stop smoking. Last two times I ‘quit’ I gained five kilograms total. I predict that if I quit for good I’d gain five times that much, and end up being so obese that any health dividend I get from not smoking is obliterated by the fact I’m a lardarse.

      Having said that, I lose a lot of weight when I stop drinking. I predict that if I could quit smoking and drinking at the same time, I’d remain the exact same weight.

      But what kind of life is that, really?

    • Chris L says:

      03:24pm | 30/10/12

      What they didn’t realise is that alcohol consumption keeps us from going crazy.

    • Gregg says:

      10:54am | 30/10/12

      Dew on gum leaves and now atmospheric pressure variations with the dawn and dusk fairies.

      I feel I might be getting closer to the regions at times dismal digital TV reception.
      It has been something of an educational journey through the sometimes too hard basket with going from a perfect analogue reception situation to at one stage finding there is with digital signals transmission a cliff effect that you at times feel like jumping off along with your departed signal.

      It was the ACMA who suggested I should be getting an endorsed technician to examine our reception strength which I did knowing full well it was likely to be money for a lost cause but at least I learnt about dew affecting transmission if that is true and meanwhile our signal strength was as good as it could be and he did tell me that what we had was because of the same old shit system used for analogue as he put it but he was not prepared to go on the record, needing to cover his own backside as well as his income .

      Anyway, weekend before last was a ripper for pixellation and signal loss from when attempting to watch the Wallabies/All Blacks right through to Sunday evening for Homeland and Strike Back etc.
      So it was time to find that too hard basket and do some striking back of my own.

      Through a bit of luck as it would be I discovered that it is not just cliffs that people can be standing at but signal fade from the main broadcast tower to a repeater tower is apparently what is happening and no doubt this phenomenen has been known about by those in the know whilst at the same time people are being advised to get a technician in.

      Sunday week ago, the region lost all channels other than SBS which is on a UHF frequency whilst others are on VHF and so it seems signal fade may also be related to transmission frequency.
      Also interesting is that on the weekend in question, weather was very mild/stable and yet on Sunday just gone we had torrential rain and no problems - go figure and maybe there are gremlins at work!, or at least throwing spanners in.
      There’s a little way to go and very conveniently my fading source has faded out from being around this week but the ACMA and politicians are being targeted.

      Meanwhile, it is not all good to apparently go the satellite system path for it is renowned for having signals washed out when there is significant rain.
      Effectively, it would seem that the digital service is not all it is cracked up to be, at least not for all.
      So if anyone else lives in a region where your digital TV transmissions aren’t so good at times, listen up and get on the wagon.

    • Mavis from Memphis says:

      12:23pm | 30/10/12

      I’m sure that you could have found a way to blame Labor for your reeption problems as is your wont.

      Broadband is your saviour Gregg. Just hope you get it before the conservatives rip it out when it is within your grasp.

    • Gregg says:

      01:39pm | 30/10/12

      Broadband may be a long time coming Mavis and it is not as far as I know to replace TV broadcasting and I suspect you would have to be paying some ISP to use it for TV not to mention the downloads it would involve.

      Meanwhile, it does not matter what party we have for a government and just like their plans to rip out copper to replace it with fibre, I do hope they’re considering what the cost is for those people who just wanted a phone service.
      Meanwhile, they should not be doing away with analogue to replace it with something that is supposed to be superior and is far from it.

    • nihonin says:

      01:52pm | 30/10/12

      Ever thought perhaps you may just live in a shit house area for digital reception, Gregg.

    • TheRealDave says:

      02:23pm | 30/10/12

      ummm..that cost would be…the same?

      but thanks for playing wink

    • overweight smoker and drinker says:

      11:00am | 30/10/12

      How rude are some people? I’m a little overweight.  I was walking around the shopping centre in Parramatta the other day and I hopped on the Escalator.  I felt a little dizzy, so I held on with both hands.  I felt like I was going to have a heart attack.  Suddenly there was this guy behind me yelling and shoving his way past.  I was so upset I had to go and have a smoke and a drink.

    • Peter Yo says:

      11:45am | 30/10/12

      Explains why you were able to walk away quickly after you got off and were able to shout quite loudly back.

      Nice troll though smile

    • subotic pushes & shoves says:

      12:19pm | 30/10/12

      Nicer troll if OSD had hit the right comment reply.

      -1 internets

    • Peter Yo says:

      12:41pm | 30/10/12

      To be fair Subotic.
      I think this works better as a troll because its not in direct replay and aims to tell a different side without acknowledging my side.

      Although i do think mine is more funny and i dont have the bone structure to play a villain,

    • ibast says:

      01:20pm | 30/10/12

      I put it here because I was having a dig at Subotic too.

    • PJ says:

      11:25am | 30/10/12

      Foreign Aid can be defined as “taking money from the poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries.”

      In Rwanda, Hutu massacred Tutsis in the 1990’s but Aid Agencies reported Refugees were dying from cholera, which got $1.5 Billion in Aid. The Hutus stole 60 percent of the Aid and levied a Food tax to pay militias, which all helped to drive the continued massacre of Tutsis.

      Somalian warlords extracted 80 percent of the supplies from the aid agencies.
      Sri Lankan Tamil Tigers took 25 percent of aid from Dutch relief workers, to help them continue terrorist activities.
      The Sudanese army fed itself on food aid that it stole, while it committed atrocities.
      In summary Foreign Aid perpetuates wars and genocide by sustaining the perpetrators not feeding the poor.

      Rajiv Gandhi said that only 15 percent of foreign aid made it to the poor in India for which it was intended.

      When we tripled Aid to Africa for this temporary seat on the UN, to bolster the US position, my thoughts went to the Foreign aid scandals we bought into.

      Along with the carbon tax attracting GST, the other dirty secret that $320 Million of our Carbon tax was going to Africa, was another shock revelation. When the Gillard Government’s carbon tax was accused of having more to do with wealth distribution than saving the planet, we all remember Gillard stating every penny of carbon tax was going to help Australian families. Not so as it turns out.

      We are desensitised, pre programmed and totally accepting that what this Government states as true one day, may not necessarily be the truth of it the next.

    • Bailey says:

      12:24pm | 30/10/12

      We should all just listen to you babble-on cause you would never make anything up.

    • Snappy Legs says:

      01:03pm | 30/10/12

      Does anyone else find it strange that the general public have not been told exactly how Jill Meagher was killed? All that has been said is that she was raped and murdered, but no further details have been released. Usually by now these things have been made public. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have a morbid fascination to know or anything, I just find it odd that the manner in which she died is being skimmed over by the media and the public, after such a large public outpouring of grief, isn’t asking the questions it should be.

    • Ginger Pegs says:

      01:32pm | 30/10/12

      You sure disguise not having a “morbid fascination to know or anything” very poorly.
      What are you a copycat villain?

    • PsychoHyena says:

      01:49pm | 30/10/12

      @Snappy Legs, I believe it’s to protect the integrity of the case, from the mere susurrations that are out there I would suggest the method and result is extremely messy. To have those details in the public domain could damage the case against the accused, as defence could then claim the Jury has been biased by the media reports.

    • TheRealDave says:

      02:28pm | 30/10/12

      Does it actually matter? The lady is dead. Some bloke is in custody for killing her and will go to trial where facts about the murder will come out.

      You not knowing the exact manner of her death in excruciating and horrible details affects your life how exaclty??

    • TRBNGR says:

      02:29pm | 30/10/12

      Most times it’s best not to know.

      I’ve seen some shit that has been suppressed that’d make your hair turn white. People are…..unbelievable (for want of a better word, honestly, I don’t know how to finish this sentence).

    • Snappy Legs says:

      02:52pm | 30/10/12

      Actually I don’t want to know the details, my point was that the public have a right to know is all. Thank you to those who replied with a sensible answer.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      05:58pm | 30/10/12

      How some-one is murdered should IMO never be disclosed prior to going to trial as it could influance a prospective jury.. Exceptions being known shootings etc

    • PsychoHyena says:

      01:54pm | 30/10/12

      So this morning I was watching a video on self-aware robots, these robots were basically given the ability to learn about their environments and themselves and that was it, they had to learn how to move to get around, what they looked like, etc. It then prompted me to think about what happens after the robots have achieved the researcher’s intent. Obviously once the robots have fulfilled their purpose they are shut-down. In human terms we would class it as murder.

      I was wondering, given the debates on abortion and killing animals for food, what pro-lifers and vegetarians who propose killing animals for food is murder, think about this situation.

    • Philosopher says:

      02:09pm | 30/10/12

      I would never, ever shut down my new ‘girlfriend’ after she has learned everything there is to know about my intent smile

    • PsychoHyena says:

      02:40pm | 30/10/12

      lol Philosopher, but you know that as soon as Apple release iGirl2 you would upgrade.

      It was quite amazing watching these robots learn how their bodies worked and the best way to move, especially when they would move in ways that the designers had never even considered as being possible.

      The whole thing just made me take a step back and look at the consequences of developing self-aware robots. Essentially mankind is creating a new “species”, which in many ways would be superior to mankind itself and knowing mankind we would treat the robots as lesser beings because we created them.

    • ibast says:

      02:58pm | 30/10/12

      So if God kills man is that murder?

    • sami says:

      03:11pm | 30/10/12

      I am a vegetarian for animal welfare reasons and I am also pro-choice when it comes to abortion.

      As robots are not really sentient it’s not murder. They don’t have a central nervous system, they don’t have a brain. They don’t actually ‘think’, they just aquire information and their programming allows that information to be applied appropriately. Also they can indeed but shut down (‘killed’) but they can also be turned back on. So it’s hardly a permanent death.

      I think your question was bordering on trolling. Nobody is going to be up in arms about robot murder. Except maybe Cleverbot, but I haven’t actually asked it’s opinion about the situation.

    • nihonin says:

      03:16pm | 30/10/12

      lol@Philospher, but seeing as ‘she’ would be self aware, how long before ‘she’ became aware of a ‘headache’.

    • PsychoHyena says:

      03:19pm | 30/10/12

      @ibast, on the one hand you could say he has the right to remove erroneous instances from his experiment but on the other hand it is still the killing of a sentient being.

      The scariest thing will be when we develop a robot that is not only self-aware but can adapt itself for survivability a’la evolution.

    • Philosopher says:

      03:31pm | 30/10/12

      PsychoHyena, robot designers should know that the core of humans is emotional complexity, not reasoning ability. And I don’t see how you can program for emotions. Otherwise they are assuming a tabula rasa approach to intelligence. But I’m sure the little Robbie Robots will be fun to play with.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      03:31pm | 30/10/12

      @Psycho….You watching Blade Runner?  Inthe morning?? Deeeeeep. smile

    • Gregg says:

      04:02pm | 30/10/12

      Did you ever see that Ad on tele about the young elephant who grew up and remembered this prick who hadn’t been too nice to him, gave the fella a good swipe he did with his then much bigger trunk.

      I wouldn’t want to be around when a robot very pissed off with having been shut down before learning all the Karma Sutra stuff self learns on how to re-start and multiply, could become a bit like that Zone 9 or whatever that oddball movie was called.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      03:45pm | 30/10/12

      caption…..... What are you spouting on about?


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