Here’s cheers to all the hardworking volunteers and emergency services personnel, struggling to do what they can in the floods.

Cute. So's the platypus. Pic: Supplied

And here’s cheers to this little fella, saved from the waters by Jim Simpson, who described him as “buggered”.

Are you affected by the floods, or the rain? Talk about whatever you like, right here.

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    • gobsmack says:

      05:44am | 30/01/13

      We’ve been having great weather in Melbourne the past couple of months, although we could do with a little more rain.

    • Fiddler says:

      06:40am | 30/01/13

      Silly me, I thought platapii could swim

    • Chris L says:

      07:29am | 30/01/13

      So can humans. Somehow drowning is still an issue.

    • PsychoHyena says:

      07:35am | 30/01/13

      @Fiddler, they can. So can humans.

    • DanFlan says:

      09:34am | 30/01/13

      It (The platypus) was found at the man’s property some way away from the water….not in the waterway itself.  So yes, “platypii” can swim, well observed…they can also walk too, although this one was escaping the fast moving water and was “buggered”.  The man above helped him and released him back in calmer water.  Good on him.

    • Colin says:

      11:12am | 30/01/13

      @ Fiddler

      “Playpii”?

      “Platypus” is from the Greek, not Latin, so the plural cannot be made by changing it to “i”.

      Try Platypuses or just plain Platypus (as a collective noun)

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:59am | 30/01/13

      mmmmm…Platipie…...

      Damn you second week of dieting and exercise!!

    • sunny says:

      12:14pm | 30/01/13

      Colin - that’s a plural not a collective noun. Not sure what the collective noun for platypuses is though, no obvious reference - not even in that esteemed scientific journal Wikipedia..
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collective_nouns

      Someone suggested a ‘paradox of platypuses’
      or possibly
      a pride of platypuses,
      a parcel of platypuses,
      a phalanx of platypuses,
      a pandemonium of platypuses..

    • Meph says:

      12:39pm | 30/01/13

      @sunny

      Since the Platypus is both rare and somewhat territorial, i doubt you’d see more than a breeding pair, thus likely why there is no name for a group of them.

    • stephen says:

      01:05pm | 30/01/13

      No dopey they can ; it’s porcupines that can’t.

      (sheez, yer gotta wonder what people do at night, doentcha.)

    • sunny says:

      01:27pm | 30/01/13

      Meph - I think you’ve settled it there once and for all - a ‘pair’ of platypuses.

    • Chris L says:

      01:36pm | 30/01/13

      I’ve heard that elephants can’t jump… or is that white men?

      @Sunny - I like “a pandemonium of platypuses”. Is there somewhere we can vote on this?

    • sunny says:

      01:38pm | 30/01/13

      Meph - all weather around the globe is measured to the nth degree these days. Or more to the point, all the data is captured.

    • Baloo says:

      01:40pm | 30/01/13

      @Meph, Sunny

      So.. A pair of platypuses?

    • sunny says:

      02:12pm | 30/01/13

      Meph -  the one about weather data was a reply to your 12:46pm post below - sorry my old single-threaded brain struggles in a multi-threaded forum smile

      Chris L - we could have a referendum on it on Sept 14?

    • AJ in Perth says:

      02:22pm | 30/01/13

      just for the record, Fiddler nowhere said that he thought they couldn’t drown ...

    • Mouse says:

      05:10pm | 30/01/13

      TRD, “Platipie”??, smack your hand!! What a terrible thought…ewww
      ps sending big support for your diet and exercise…  :o)

      Colin, sunny, Meph, ChrisL, Baloo, wouldn’t plural platypus be platypussies?? Seems pretty obvious to me… lol   :o)

      ChrisL, I can jump so does that mean I am neither an elephant or a white man??    ;o)

    • Chris L says:

      05:39pm | 30/01/13

      Platypussies! Of course!

    • AJ in Perth says:

      06:44pm | 30/01/13

      straight to the gutter mouse tsk tsk
      bit I love it!  :o)

    • Economist says:

      06:42am | 30/01/13

      I just wanted to acknowledge @Marley’s late comment yesterday on a comment chain that I thought was a great piece of thinking and expression on the issue. Hopefully she knows the comment. Also thanks to the others who added the counter factual with facts and clear thought, but I just really liked @Marley’s succinct breakdown.

    • marley says:

      06:20pm | 30/01/13

      @Economist - well thank you, kind sir.  I was feeling a bit exasperated when I wrote that.  Context matters, and so much of what passes for commentary these days ignores it in favour of sound bytes.  I just wanted to restore a bit of it to the discussion.

    • Daniel says:

      07:09am | 30/01/13

      There has been no real mention during the flood coverage of whats going on with the animals. I guess they do not make headlines. Shameful.

    • Colin says:

      09:23am | 30/01/13

      @ Daniel

      Well, if the animals hadn’t drowned we would simply have left them to graze in the pasture until we fattened them up enough. Then would have killed and eaten them, as is the usual fate of these animals.

      I guess that part doesn’t make headlines either.

    • Shane* says:

      09:35am | 30/01/13

      People have died in these floods Daniel.

      Nobody gives a stuff about animals when people are in danger, and that’s natural, normal, understandable, and logical.

      Without hesitating for a second I would send 10,000 head of cattle to a watery grave if it saved one human life.

    • AFR says:

      12:06pm | 30/01/13

      Shane, I think I understand where you are coming from… but why does it have to be one or the other? Some coverage of animal welfare isn’t going to lessen the sorrow at the human toll.

      I for one, would be more interested in the life of an animal than a house. As firstly, it’s just a bloody house, and secondly, they should be insured.

    • Meph says:

      12:42pm | 30/01/13

      @AFR

      “they should be insured.”

      While I concur wholeheartedly, tell that to the family on last night’s channel 9 news that wasn’t during the 2011 floods, and still isn’t now.

      I swear, no matter how hard the government fights to reverse Darwin’s theories on survival of the fittest….

    • Gregg says:

      12:53pm | 30/01/13

      It’s not quite as simple as what you might think Colin for yes, much livestock has ben swept away with flooding and no doubt if they get tangled up in fences or tree branches, drowning could occur.

      It has been reported in some coverage of country areas Daniel that it will not just be livestock succumbing that will have a flow on effect, not just to some meat prices but also a great impact on rural producers incomes and the rural regions.

      And then not all livestock finds its way to supermarket shelves as meat and you have dairy cattle and in some areas where power is interrupted, even cattle surviving will need milking and if that cannot be done by hand ( and not too many milking maidens about these days ) , those cows may have to be put down to save them succumbing to a nasty slow death also.

      These are the types of things that many farmers have to face up to at various times of a life on the land, be it floods, droughts or fires and it will be extra tough going in recovery where there have been floods just two years ago for many.

    • Rugger says:

      07:35am | 30/01/13

      We were without power for 56 hours. The night is very long, when you retire at 7pm! I read 2 books. The freezer held up well. We had lots of frozen water in it. I was ever so glad to see that light flicker on at 6 pm last night.

    • sunny says:

      12:42pm | 30/01/13

      Rugger - “retire at 7pm”

      Sounds like you’re not in a daylight savings state. The extra hour of light during an evening blackout could be another point for those arguing for its introduction ..although the main argument against DST (“it fades the cows”) usually trumps the lot.

    • Gregg says:

      01:04pm | 30/01/13

      Good you got through the power outage relatively unscathed Rugger.
      I reckon we must have been exceptionally lucky for though in the past, outages during storms had been regular, perhaps it was a new substation commissioned a couple of years ago that changed things for whilst we’ve had very heavy rain, strong winds at times and those tornadoes not too far away, life has otherwise been normal.

    • Chris L says:

      01:40pm | 30/01/13

      @Sunny - DST wouldn’t help. I’ve heard if you keep fiddling with your clock you go blind.

    • sunny says:

      02:17pm | 30/01/13

      Chris L - that’s a risk I’m prepared to take, plus it gives you something to look forward to in April and October

    • Thephoenix says:

      07:40am | 30/01/13

      The ALP are likely to kill superannuation today. Get ready for the next installment in Gillard’s socialist class war. If they force me to contribute superannuation and then double the tax rate on me, I will go ballistic! Pack of farkin thieves!

    • GregE says:

      09:20am | 30/01/13

      Yep, the media leaks today sound ominous for our superannuation and for the industry.

      The ALP has already brought in a limit on voluntary contributions if you earn a high income. But if they start taxing the mandatory 9% contributions at a higher rate for some based purely on income, that would be a disgrace.

      This government continues to punish the wealth creators and reward the wealth destroyers in our country. It’s socialist madness.

      Why does ALP values seem to mean rewarding the people not working and on welfare and punishing the people working and paying tax. What sort of screwed up value is that?

      As Dash says, if you work hard, become successful and pay lots of tax, the ALP has a target on your back. Labor Values means to throw money at the unproductive, low taxpaying wealth destroying sections of our community.

    • Tim says:

      11:42am | 30/01/13

      Double the tax rate?
      Aren’t you paying 15%? As opposed to a marginal rate of 37% or 45%?

      Even if they doubled the tax, you would still be getting a massive tax break as compensation for the compulsory nature of the contribution.

      Geez, some people just can’t be pleased unless their own team is in power and doing the shafting.

    • GregE says:

      12:22pm | 30/01/13

      @Tim, the reason superannuation is concessionaly taxed is to encourage people to save for their retirement. The ALP should not touch the superannuation system any more. They have already put a cap on contributions. This talk of taxing people at a higher rate because of what they earn is a disgrace.

      I will be campaigning in marginal seats with mail drops if this government touches my superannuation!

      The ALP should not increase taxes on superannuation.

      We should not be punishing people for their success any more than we already do. The talk of increasing superannuation tax on the basis of income is a disgrace.

      What’s next on Gillards communist tax manifesto? Death duties?

    • Tim says:

      02:33pm | 30/01/13

      GregE,
      Where’s the evidence that the money lost through lower tax on superannuation actually gives a commensurate lowering of welfare in the form of pensions and the like?

      Note I’m actually a big supporter of Superannuation and helping people to save for retirement but the bleating from certain people over having their tax breaks removed is ridiculous.

      “We should not be punishing people for their success any more than we already do”

      This is the first time I’ve ever heard of a tax break being labelled a punishment. Well done.

      “This talk of taxing people at a higher rate because of what they earn is a disgrace.

      Um, OK. Are you against the tax system as a whole then? We already have different rates of tax based on income. Your issue doesn’t seem to be about superannuation.

      “What’s next on Gillards communist tax manifesto?”

      What’s next on your list of hyperbole and exagerration?

    • GregE says:

      03:59pm | 30/01/13

      @Tim, OK so you are a supporter of the ALP increasing taxes yet again?

      It is not a tax break!! That shows a complete lack of understanding of the superannuation system. We are forced to have 9% up to the statutory limit put into superannuation under law. That is taxed for all PAYG taxpayers at 15%.

      What the government is making noises about, is taxing some people more for that compulsory contribution. My comment is about increasing the tax rate on compulsory superannuation not the progressive PAYG tax rates. But nice try to spin something else.

      Gillard is a raving socialist. Everything she has done around tax has been straight out of the Socialist Forum text book on tax. The profits tax, the flood levy, the compensation scheme wealth redistribution exercise, the broken promise on the private health tax rebate and now the threat to superannuation. This ALP government has done everything in it’s power to punish the people already paying the most in income tax. And at the same time, they have reduced the tax base by lifting the tax free threshhold.

      More and more of the tax burden has been pushed on to fewer and fewer taxpayers. Rather than fix the system, they go back time and time again to the same taxpayers. I say that’s unsustainable and unfair.

      I want these bastards gone.

    • Stop the ALP trolls says:

      04:06pm | 30/01/13

      @Tim - This is not a tax break. You are insane. The tax rate for compulsory superannuation is 15%. We are forced to lock that money away. Because it is not available to us, and to encourage superannuation savings, it is taxed at a concessional rate. And so it should be.

      To force people to lock away their income and then tax it at top marginal rates would be criminal. And to apply that rule to people of the ALPs choosing is socialism in the extreme.

      These comments are about superannuation, not the progressive PAYG tax system.

    • Tim says:

      06:44pm | 30/01/13

      Your marginal tax rate is higher than 15%. So yes getting taxed lower than this amount is a tax break.

      Would you prefer the government to remove superannuation altogether and then raise taxes across the board to pay for pensions?

    • Colin says:

      07:42am | 30/01/13

      Floods? You don’t pitch a tent in the middle of a swimming pool emptied for maintenance, and then scream blue murder when someone ‘unexpectedly’ begins filling it with water, do you?

      So why are people are allowed to build in areas that have proven - over and over and over again - to be flood zones? Every time that it floods we all see them sitting on the roofs of their houses or cars and headlines proclaim, ‘Disaster’. Then, after the flood waters recede, they go back in, clean up, repair their houses, and wait for it to happen all over again.

      When, oh when, will we ever learn..?

    • AFR says:

      08:11am | 30/01/13

      It is only a matter of time before we start to experience “flood fatigue”... some floods are completely unexpected, but as you point out Colin, others just don’t seem to get it.

      Much of the AFR clan hail from Mackay. There are so many parts of town there that people and Council alike with short term memories build on, and it’s only a matter of time before a decent flood comes through and destroys hundreds of homes and business.

      A proper, long term, solution needs to be put in place.

    • BobC says:

      09:11am | 30/01/13

      If we must pay a Carbon Tax (or the miners pay their mining tax), couldn’t it be used to assist residents being relocated to higher ground above the high level mark. Sure it would be a big job, but hey! - this is no fun for anyone and it is happening too often. Surely if the Government considers this to be the result of climate change the monies could be used in this way. I’d be happier to see it used in this way rather than find it’s way into general revenue!!

    • Colin says:

      09:19am | 30/01/13

      @ AFR

      Good to hear from someone who has actual experience of this problem AND the good sense to see that it should be fixed. And for the long term.

      It would be different if the areas you mention were only “Once in a thousand-years” prone to flooding, but as you point out, the residents and council seem to be afflicted by a short-term memory loss as soon as the sun comes out again…

      Do the politicians in Queensland have a solution for a problem that - except for the lotus-eating few - so many of their constituents must be calling for..?

    • Colin says:

      09:45am | 30/01/13

      @ BobC

      Excellent point, Bob; if this is all supposedly as a result of AGW, then why don’t we spend the money from the carbon tax on this and other mitigation..?

    • sunny says:

      11:59am | 30/01/13

      BobC - I agree on that. At least some of the CT revenue should go into a fund to help recover from destruction caused by extreme weather events, which will occur more frequently in the future than in the recent past.

    • sunny says:

      12:20pm | 30/01/13

      “extreme weather events, which will occur more frequently in the future than in the recent past”

      what I mean is they will occur more frequently in this century than in the last century.

    • Meph says:

      12:46pm | 30/01/13

      @sunny

      “what I mean is they will occur more frequently in this century than in the last century.”

      It’s a little like the proverbial falling tree in a forest though isn’t it. If there’s an extreme weather event in a sparsely populated or entirely unpopulated location, will it get suitably measured and reported?

    • Gregg says:

      01:30pm | 30/01/13

      It does sound easy enough to say no building there on likely flood plains and I have said it often enough myself and asked just the other day how stupid are we as a nation? for yes the huge savings that could be had from people not being affected by floods and help in various forms not to mention the weakening of the economy could then go into infrastructure for flood proving major transport ways and other facilities.

      One of the reasons we do have cities and towns in flood prone low land adjacent to rivers is that rivers have always been part of transport and in earlier days a source of drinking water and thus our cities and towns developed so and in many cases well before too great a thought was given to flooding and 1 in 100 year floods etc., for go back not much more than half a century and we had bugger all population and then boom!

      With population and housing booms, enter the developer and councils with questionable decisions, the Gold Coast a prime example where the council has approved resort style building developments in flood prone previously swampy land that gets a make-over into canals and have in fact said that’s OK but the 1 in 100 level shall not be any more than a metre high of a garage, supposedly at a lower level than the house.

      What I doubt is too adequately allowed for is every time development occurs, you basically seal off a good percentage of absorption open land with house footprints, roads, footpaths and carparks etc.
      So along comes the 100 year flood but instead of being at what they expected the levels would be, it will of course be higher because of all the additional run-off and limited flow paths for escape.

      It is a significant problem as the last two years have shown and it can only get worse unless some foresight is shown by governments to say OK, the long term couple of centuries plan is to only allow building on higher land and old stuff reaching the use by date will be demolished and put into land fill to create some more higher land, taking flow path needs etc. into account.

      Cities and coastal areas could become so much prettier with swathes of green belts so great for the environment and all that rich alluvial soil land previously built on but so good for agriculture could be returned to that use with some provision for flooding.
      At the same time, newer city areas could be smaller, kind of like a series of satellite small cities in themselves and smaller towns and villages out from them.
      If anybody ever takes a trip to Switzerland, both Zurich and Berne I know reasonably well and both are a bit like that, major lakes/rivers nearby and though development has occurred right down to the Zurichsee or Aare River in many places, surrounding much of the major city centres are lush forests and parklands and you take a walk through and pop out the other side to another sizable town area.
      Certainly the way to go with urban development.

      It could be done but just needs a great leader or series of teams of them to lead the way, even if with great force.

    • stephen says:

      07:52am | 30/01/13

      I might apply for a gig on Masterchef. The Professionals, cause even I can make a gravy - make that a sauce - that doesn’t look like dark dishwater.
      Didn’t even look right on the plate.
      The spuds were too small, too.
      And a souffle is not a pudding.
      Glad, too, the red team is still cooking.
      They’ll win.

    • Thephoenix says:

      07:53am | 30/01/13

      ALP member Robert McClelland to quit politics. Another Gillard victim who raised the AWU scandal in parliament.

      I note the AFR has a detailed piece today on the ongoing police investigation. Finally the media reports something!

    • GregE says:

      09:08am | 30/01/13

      Yes I agree. The AWU police investigation finally reported correctly in the media.

      As for McClelland, he is another name to be added to the list which includes Tanner and Faulkner. The ALP are losing all of their good guys.

    • youdy beaudy says:

      07:59am | 30/01/13

      What a nice photo of the little platypus and the kind man who cares about our wildlife. We are all very lucky in Australia having emergency services and their volunteers there to help out in these situations of flood and fire and other calamities of nature.

      Well, they didn’t declare it a cyclone but it had an eye which passed over us all. Winds gusting to 100ks and hour relentlessly for two or more days. Power out for 24 hours twice. People worried and staying up re their local rivers and creeks possibly flooding and trying to save their food.

      Sad for those who lost everything again within 12 months or so. Nature is an amazing thing to behold. It’s destructive power greater than any army that could be mustered. It to me suggests that the Queensland Government and certain councils need to look at building levys to stop the rivers entering certain suburbs in Brisbane and in other cities and towns. They will have to invest more money that way otherwise it just repeats itself over and over again.

      What we don’t need is more cyclones and rain depressions coming along in the next weeks or there will be a catastrophe of great proportions. Drowning in Queensland and burning down south. Amazing.!

      Anyway at our place we just hunkered down made a plan and didn’t get a lot of sleep as we were concerned about flooding. It was good to see the end of it and now the power is back on. We don’t realize how much we rely on electricity until we lose it. Anyway we became happy campers and it brought back memories of yesteryear.

      Flooding is always a worry and many of us have so much furniture and objects that it is hard to make a plan on how to put them up out of the floods way. I hope that the people who were flooded and lost their possessions again have good fortune for the future and recover successfully. Maybe they should think about a change of address, maybe to a hill somewhere. It must be worrysome and hard when you don’t have the money to buy elsewhere.

      We are in the cyclone season in Queensland and there could be more to come this year, hope not. But it has been very dry and the land has welcomed the rain and it has also bushfire proofed us a little, which is good. Also we noted that now we are getting tornadoes as well. That’s scarey. What’s the American weather doing here. I don’t think we have ever had tornadoes before maybe willy willies but not tornadoes. Anyway, the people will rebuild as they do with help from the Government and emergency services and army and will go on as usual because that’s what we do. Let’s hope that the weather eases up a little so people can get back on their feet. Good luck with that.

    • Anubis says:

      10:18am | 30/01/13

      Tornados have been experienced before in Queensland when tropical cyclones break down into multiple storms, as this one did. Late 70’s it happened, as it did in the 40’s. There was also some reporting of tornado storms during the early colonial settlement period as well.

      It is a rare and irregular occurrence, but it is not unheard of.

    • Gregg says:

      01:46pm | 30/01/13

      I really think the solution Sam is a new government, a government prepared to implement very harsh laws re irregular arrivals and that will include, especially with the likes of Sri Lanka who have indicated willingness for people to be returned, immediate return.

      Something like that is very necessary to stop all the stories that apparently are being circulated about what such a good time can be had courtesy of the Australian government, taxpayers and now even some taxpayers being prepared to house asylum seelers on government prompting and with payment.

      For those unable to immediately be returned, there certainly needs to be discussion with the UNHCR re people being transferred to refugee camps nearest their country, even with Australia contributing more to running refugee camps or if that is not possible, then UNHCR standard refugee camps ought to be set up on Australian islands rather than these two star resorts and then Australia relying on places like Nauru and PNG and paying through the nose for it.

      There could even be some islanders from abroad engaged to run some services to keep costs down or more basically, people get given so much oats/rice etc. and are required to prepare their own meals.
      Just do not expect too much from Julia and yes, in this time of year, the weather in the Indian Ocean/Timor Sea etc. could see more deaths.

    • Bonestar says:

      02:42pm | 30/01/13

      2011? Rudd f#%&ed; it up back in ‘07

    • Bonestar says:

      02:48pm | 30/01/13

      @Anubis

      85% of the population are not better off, they just haven’t been screwed as badly as the other 15%

    • Anubis says:

      03:28pm | 30/01/13

      @ Bonestar - I did not state that 85% of the population are better off. That was someone who responded to one of my posts. I am in agreement with you when you state “they just haven’t been screwed as badly as the other 15%”

    • sunny says:

      08:50am | 30/01/13

      Yes both those species are icons of Australia - the Niceoldblokeus (Eastern Grey Bushy Faced Codger) on the right and the Ornithorhynchus (Platypus) on the left.

    • Rugger says:

      11:05am | 30/01/13

      Hahahahahahaha..good one sunny! Thanks for the giggle!! By the way, how many of you can spell ornithorhynchus without looking? My Dad taught me when I was about 8 and I’ve never forgotten.

    • LJ Dots says:

      11:59am | 30/01/13

      aaah, the memories. I used to keep one of those semi domesticated Niceoldblokeus in the house next door. God, he was a nice chap (eccentric, but nice), looked rough as guts but had a heart of gold. The hardest part about deciding to move to a new location was letting him go (G’day Ray).

      PS Rugger - spelling fail for me. I won’t post my futile attempts since my pride simply won’t allow it. However, if you happen to discover a new rare element, I think I may have just created a great name for it.

    • AdamC says:

      10:24am | 30/01/13

      Our next PM had a little fluff piece in the Hun this morning about his ‘Vision for Victoria’, or something like that. (I assume the article is paywalled online.) Sadly, his plan includes continuing to pay Detroit and Tokyo carmakers to assemble cars in Victoria that nobody wants. Why? Australia does not need a second major party totally in thrall to special interests and economic irrationalism. This seems like a National Party policy, yet directed at unsustainable city manufacturing.

      Not impressed, Tony. Victorians do not need the Feds to continue to prop up unviable industries and induce people to enter unsustainable careers.

      BTW, I am on ‘staycation’ for the rest of this week, having been down the coast for the long weekend. Anyone know of any interesting events on in Melbourne at the moment?

    • Anubis says:

      10:41am | 30/01/13

      Interesting events…Melbourne….  Nah, Can’t think of any.

    • gobsmack says:

      12:48pm | 30/01/13

      Whatever you do, don’t spend your holidays glued to the Punch (I assume that’s what you do at work).

      It’s a glorious day in Melbourne.  Get outside with a good book, your iPod and a few drinks and relax.

    • AJ in Perth says:

      01:59pm | 30/01/13

      or weekends gobsmack ...

    • Gregg says:

      02:00pm | 30/01/13

      If you’re into child psychology you could always do a study why some new schoolers will be balling and others happy to be throwing a ball.

      But yep, start of school year and maybe thats why the event organisers could be taking a break so you might just have to rely on nature a bit and check out fairy penguins, seals or Bells beach etc. but whatever you do, stay close to the briny for Melbourne can have some real scorchers heading into February.

      The Portsea Pub has the ideal beach bar setting opening out on to the beach out back and Lorne down the GOR is a nice spot to relax at a pub too.
      It always seems to be a good bit cooler along the coasts, nice cooler sea breezes off the southern ocean.

    • AJ in Perth says:

      02:04pm | 30/01/13

      or weekends gobsmack *wink*

    • AJ in Perth says:

      02:38pm | 30/01/13

      here’s another one, since it’s working contrary to the error messages I’m getting

      or weekends, gobsmack, or weekends ...

    • Anubis says:

      11:03am | 30/01/13

      Key questions for the Prime Minister to answer (from a newspaper report) and questions she has consistently dodged

      Will the Prime Minister explain to the Australian people how she intends to keep her promise of paying off net debt by 2020-2021 given that would require surpluses of almost $30 billion a year from 2016-2017?

      How can (Treasurer) Wayne Swan and Julia Gillard claim to be lower taxing than the Howard Government when they have announced 27 new or increased taxes and when their total call on the community including taxes, borrowings and dividends - is the highest in recent times?

      How can Wayne Swan and Julia Gillard talk about a decline in Government revenue when this year they are estimated to receive over $70 billion more revenue than the last Budget of the Howard Government?

    • GregE says:

      11:37am | 30/01/13

      It’s a lie for the ALP to say that government revenue has declined. In dollar terms, revenue has continued to increase year after year since they have been in government.

      I too would like to understand what the ALPs plan is to repay the debt they have created since being in office. Whats the plan?

    • AJ (wants to be a spin consultant) in Perth says:

      02:19pm | 30/01/13

      Anubis

      answer to the second question ...  the 27 new/increased taxes was only on high income earners or 15% of the poluation and the remaining 85% of the population are better off (GFC handouts, they don’t even have to keep receipts now to claim education expenses *not sure why that’s so hard to do, but I digress*, CT compensation in some case more than what the impact of the CT is, hell, now they’re not even “paying” the rich’s private medical insurance anymore!!!, etc.) so since 85% of the population are better off, Wayne S and Julia G can stand by their claim to be lower taxing than all the governments in the history of Australia

      pffft, and here I thought for a change we’re gonna see some hardhitting questions ...

    • Bonestar says:

      03:00pm | 30/01/13

      Sorry meant for Aj not Anubis.

    • AJ (wants to be a spin consultant) in Perth says:

      03:26pm | 30/01/13

      Anubis

      answer to the first question ... duh, by budgeting for a $1 trillion surplus 2016-2017

    • AJ in Perth says:

      03:33pm | 30/01/13

      Anubis

      Final question ... AND Howard also sold all our stuff like Telstra, the Sydney Harbour Bridge and what not, so he had heaps more revenue than Wayne S and Julia G!  oh, wait ...

    • AJ in Perth says:

      03:57pm | 30/01/13

      Bonestar

      I’ll give you that, we’ve all been screwed ... but I won’t be the least surprised if we end up with another hung parliament in september and another 3 years of this mob

      and please use the number I have quoted with care, it may, or may not be, entirely accurate :o)

    • AJ in Perth says:

      04:00pm | 30/01/13

      Anubis

      serious reply ...

      “Key questions for the Prime Minister to answer (from a newspaper report) and questions she has consistently dodged”

      did this newspaper imply that Julia G has only been dodging these questions and had answered (other) questions before?  because I’ve missed that ...

    • Chris L says:

      01:59pm | 30/01/13

      The shaming tactics haven’t stopped me from smoking, but that’s probably just because I’m a contrary bastard.

    • Modern primitive says:

      02:32pm | 30/01/13

      I had half a mind to take it up again, but the continual price rises make it uneconomical.

      Bloody nanny staters.

    • BillyBob John Boy says:

      02:31pm | 30/01/13

      Women have orgasms? Who’da thunk it

    • Colin says:

      11:56am | 30/01/13

      @ Modern Primitive

      Fatsoes should be ashamed of their disgusting blubber, their vile eating habits, and their predilection to sloth. If shaming them into losing some of their gross, distended, elephantine bulk reduces their burden on our health system, our environment and - above all - our sense of disgust at having to look at their ponderous whale-bodies, then all the better.

      Bring it on, I say.

    • Modern Primitive says:

      12:24pm | 30/01/13

      I knew you’d be on board with this.

    • TheRealDave says:

      12:02pm | 30/01/13

      now thats an epic beard….

    • GregE says:

      12:54pm | 30/01/13

      The ALP might need to go earlier depending on what the Victorian Police do.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      01:43pm | 30/01/13

      Dont think so, it would be seen as another broken promise by the ALP.
      If charges are laid prior to the election they will just replace her with another sacraficial lamb…....

    • Anubis says:

      01:51pm | 30/01/13

      So a “Goodbye Gillard” party and BBQ will be organised for Saturday 14 September rolling over into 15 September. What better celebration can there be.

    • Chris L says:

      03:52pm | 30/01/13

      I’m just looking forward to the end of this three year election campaign we’ve been subjected to!

    • Yon Toad says:

      12:44pm | 30/01/13

      September ain’t soon enough!

    • Intelligent Skeptic says:

      12:46pm | 30/01/13

      Help, please.  I was wondering if anyone could tell me who the author of this interesting quote might be?  I find it quite compelling and would love to know who said it:-

      “If Australia is greatly to reduce its carbon emissions, the price of carbon intensive products should rise. The Coalition has always been instinctively cautious about new or increased taxes. That’s one of the reasons why the former government opted for an emissions trading scheme over a straight-forward carbon tax. Still, a new tax would be the intelligent skeptic’s way to deal with minimising emissions because it would be much easier than a property right to reduce or to abolish should the justification for it change.”

    • AJ in Perth says:

      01:45pm | 30/01/13

      that was my neighbour Bob

    • Knemon says:

      03:33pm | 30/01/13

      Are you sure AJ - It sounds like something Mr Abbott would say? wink

    • AJ in Perth says:

      04:04pm | 30/01/13

      Knemon

      Tony A has a neighbour called Bob too?!  :o)

    • Cate says:

      01:42pm | 30/01/13

      The animals and pets are just as important. They are living breathing beings.  It does not diminish the tragedy of the loss of human life to also care for the animals.  Humans can decide to get out or live somewhere else.  Livestock, pets and wildlife have no choice. Humans generally box them in.  Animals deserve respect because they earn it and deserve it.  This is more than I can say for some humans.  Thank you to this man Jim Simpson who saved the platypus.  To the person who said I thought they could swim, so do humans but they would still drown as has happened during these floods and previous floods and in the swimming pools and the oceans and rivers. The same happens in bushfires but generally the animals take the hardest toll.

    • Draconian says:

      02:09pm | 30/01/13

      Some people make me so mad that I wish I was born with more than 2 middle fingers.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      04:51pm | 30/01/13

      AJ ‘s on fire… Good to see you back….. Has the boss gone for a long lunch?? smile

    • AJ in Perth says:

      05:42pm | 30/01/13

      hey pa_k

      nope, AJ’s on sour squirms (since I couldn’t get my hands on whatever that shit is subotic smokes) ... not that I mind, nothing beats a sugar high :o)

      I’ve never been gone ...  what do you mean good to see you back?!  :o)

      close, very close ...  old boss left, then the guy sitting next to me became the new boss, he moved just last week to the old boss’ desk ... but we can call it one big long lunch between us, that’s ok with me :o)

      oh, and I’m working on batshit boring crap, and the OT wasn’t helping what with everyone being so serious, ALP this, LNP that - I naturally could be complaining how boring the punch is these days, but that is so un-original :o)

      hey, did you hear the good news?! I’ve taken 5 minutes out of my very busy day to make a note in my diary for 13 september ... “wash hair and clip toe-nails”, because I’ve got big plans for the 14th and there won’t be any time for things like that!  :o)

    • AJ in Perth says:

      06:39pm | 30/01/13

      I could be repeating myself again, so I just want to ask the punch team, really?  having fun with us, are you?  just waiting for the second try, and then, bang, post the first one too?  very mature ....  you know my opinion is very serious stuff!

      hey pa_k

      nope, AJ’s on sour squirms (since I couldn’t get my hands on whatever that shit is subotic smokes) ... not that I mind, nothing beats a sugar high :o)

      I’ve never been gone ...  what do you mean good to see you back?!  :o)

      close, very close ...  old boss left, then the guy sitting next to me became the new boss, he moved just last week to the old boss’ desk ... but we can call it one big long lunch between the two of us, that’s ok with me :o)

      oh, and I’m working on batshit boring crap, and the OT wasn’t helping what with everyone being so serious, ALP this, LNP that - I naturally could be complaining how boring the punch is these days, but that is so un-original :o)

      hey, did you hear the good news?! I’ve taken 5 minutes out of my very busy day today to make a note in my diary for 13 september ... “wash hair and clip toe-nails”, because I’ve got big plans for the 14th and there won’t be any time for other things!  :o)

      otherwise, I hope you and ma_k are being good! (sorry! forgot to ask in the first one)

      speaking of ma_k, does she know about your little *uhm* research project on the side?  still waiting for mouse to day something about that too ...  I’m home now, so I could read the link :o)

      anyways, hoping the old gem “bet this won’t get posted” will work again ... :o)

    • AJ in Perth says:

      06:45pm | 30/01/13

      disclaimer

      all spelling mistakes is intentional to increase the probability of a post to be published ...  or at least, that’s my excuse

 

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