Punch on: Open thread 28/01/2013

Gregg says:

08:28am | 28/01/13

” all those poverty and war stricken areas on the world map”?  “
Come on Neslihan, that would be a bit traiterous of the fold.
” ” they apparently believe that 75 million years ago, an alien warlord brought negative spirits to Earth which plague humanity to this day. “

It’s the warlord spirits and yes they are very prevalent at the moment with uprisings and fighting here and there and will become more so as the earth temperature rises before the next ice age.
The likes of the KKK and NRA will not admit it but they are agents of the spirits!

The way it works is that when the ice age does come and we on the surface perish somewhat, the true believers will use the scientific learnings to head into the crust, allowing the inner core to keep them at survival temperatures.
Why do you think there are so many subterranean caves all over the planet and that’s just the ones discovered.

The Egyptians and the likes of the Chinese with their tombs had some understandings, the Chinese tombs of their soldiers possibly more closely linked to those ancient warlords and then what you may not know is that with an Ice Age upon them, those earliest scientologists would create more volcanic activity, not just to help in melting the Ice but for their own survival with the heat generated.

It might just come down to the ancient great southern land, Terris Australis with our regular flooding to extinguish the fire and flames of the spirits and there may even be a belief amongst indigenous that being a nomadic peoples made it much more difficult for Aliens to attack rather than if they all congregated in one place.

So sadly, the good lessons have not been passed on down and you can see what happens now with fires and floods and how many more people get affected because of living in cities, they even helping to concentrate flooding because of housing and associated infrastructures sealing the landscape and causing more runoff into limited dispersal areas.

Nick says:

08:56am | 28/01/13

@NESLIHAN KUROSAWA, “Because we all have this need to believe in the presence of a higher being especially in times of trouble to give us strength”, so you speak for ALL of us do you?? What an incredibly silly blanket statement you have made. I don’t remember you asking me if I needed to believe in some higher being… I don’t!  In fact, most of the people I spend most of my time with also don’t, these same people and I have zero time for religion or religious sheep.  And I also don’t mind who I offend when I say that it’s all BS, for the record, their beliefs offend me.

Philososaurus says:

01:49pm | 28/01/13

Dinosaurs were indeed alive and well 75 million years ago, in fact the famous giants of the Cretaceous. And new evidence is coming to life that in fact they were intelligent and had a primitive organised religion. It seems a prophet among them had predicted a cataclysmic event that would destroy them all, and for them to repent in order to find everlasting life in the sky (they were all jealous of the pterodactyls). Needless to say, most of them, particularly the stubborn pachycephaloraurs, were highly sceptical. Yet look how the story ended? I will quote from their bible, discovered in fragments from Germany:

‘‘Rrroooarrrr grrrrr sssssssssnnnnnnaaarrllllllll.
HHHHHHHRRRsssssssssssssss
Ar!Ar!
Ppppppshssssawwww
Yip! Yip! Lick!”

Surprisingly similar to Corinthians, no? I will let you make of that what you may.
The fool Dawkins has tried to cover this up, predictably. What do you say P Darvio?

Sickemrex says:

02:48pm | 28/01/13

@Nick, I think it must be like in Terry Pratchett’s Discworld except it’s not the gods that get bigger with belief, it’s the believers’ beliefs that get bigger the more people believe. Or something.

I’ve had a believer tell me that she kind of believes “just in case” and another say that it’s a good idea to believe in case your local state school is rubbish and you need to send your kids to a Catholic school.

Philosopher says:

02:48pm | 28/01/13

‘coming to light’ not ‘life’. Careless, sorry.

marley says:

07:19am | 28/01/13

Now that is crazy - you’ve gone to the dark side, Tchongy.

Gregg says:

08:05am | 28/01/13

Well it’s partly true marley, for Collingwooders do find those woods very dark at times, especially when they retreat to within.
There was a time when they had a drought of 32 years and it was especially dark, bit like the Black Forest and every time they attempted to raise a premiership flag, it was as another tree would fall in the forest.

Could be they’re headed for another 32 year or longer period in the forest.

Nick says:

09:02am | 28/01/13

@TChong, you’re spot on that all of those belief systems are as crazy as one another.  Fortunately the average religious congregation is getting older and older every year, until finally it’ll be on the fringes of society.

JTO says:

09:53am | 28/01/13

Ahh… so they’re religious tattoos? I assume that giving teeth is part of some supporters ceremony as well? They are also still in black and white like other old fashioned ideas. It all makes more sense now.

tez says:

12:20pm | 28/01/13

@ Nick: Don’t know so much about that , had to go to a first holy communion a bit back and there were three secions a day over the weekend 100 odd kids at each. The RC are cracking on. My personal crutch is a good G&T

Gregg says:

07:36am | 28/01/13

It has all happened a little differently this time in this cyclone which was only a category one and at one stage I think even downgraded to a low depression starting way up north, north of Cairns even and continuing on down the east coast with no sign of stopping.
Maybe the Scientologists could explain for sure as hell we’ll have those other scientists all over it.

We have friends who took off for Adelaide ways a few weeks back when I thought they were a bit crazy with the hot weather expected and they were going to do some tenting en route because they had take their little hound and they rang the other day to say they had started back but then did a Uie for fear of getting stuck somewhere and they sure would have.
Up here between Bundaberg and Gladstone, we’ve copped heaps of rain, some winds etc. but fortunately unlike Bargara the town is unaffected while Bundaberg is expecting a record flood.
I’d reckon you ought to tell Pa to take a few weeks off somehow.

Actually, this might be a bit more like 1974 for the big Brisbane flood then was around the Australia Day weekend and I recall then when I was in Broken Hill, there was a guy who had been over on the Queensland north coast holidaying and his family got stuck somewhere, it being kind of a joke that Porky as we called Pete at the time could pick his holidays.

It’d be interesting to look back at other historical floods and see just how they formed, ie, local storms or a monsoon depression being brought down on the unbelievers by those Scientologists.

morticia says:

10:01am | 28/01/13

It’s god punishing the Queenslanders for being dumb enough to elect can do.

Chillin says:

10:50am | 28/01/13

Beats the completely corrupt Labor Government they had for far too long.

Gregg says:

01:19pm | 28/01/13

You do get to see some crazy commentary when the media circus gets into action:
” An exceptional amount of foam is washing across the esplanade at Alexandra Headland on Queensland’s Sunshine Coast.

Authorities are not sure what is causing the unusual event. “

It would seem that the reporter nor authorities and those out taking photos have never been near the ocean at any other stormy time for if they have it is as simple as Salt water being churned causes foaming, and with a high enough high tide and plenty of wind it, huge blankets of foam can be blown quite some distance.
Our hound once ran into a big area of it once, quite deep enough to be over his head and it was a bit frightening for him as he didn’t quite know where he was and neither did we until we saw him standing up against some channel rocks and it took some coaxing to get him out, eventually up the rocks which were a bit on the slippery side, even for a less a not the most agile hound.

Chillin says:

01:50pm | 28/01/13

When a journalist adds the ‘authorities’ to a story, they are desperately reaching for some credibility.  They haven’t actually asked anyone, they just make that part up.

Sickemrex says:

02:53pm | 28/01/13

I’m pretty well acquainted with some “authorities” on the Sunshine Coast, and they’re pretty certain it’s just plain old sea foam!

Gregg says:

09:51am | 28/01/13

Aside from the farm animals Linda, when you look at the size of some of the buck kangas and then a kind of resident mother kangaroo around our place who is on the smaller side, she already has a young un and another squirming to get out of the pouch.

The young un will want to stay out the bucks’ ways too or mum will soon enough be a grandmum and I doubt the mum kangas have too much choice in events with those big bucks that are a bit like what they say of Koalas.

The big reds come even bigger so our little Red one would want to stay well clear of them!, those kangas known of late to do a bit of bashing about.

Gregg says:

09:55am | 28/01/13

Not to worry Achmed for all those dinosaurs disbelievers are just part of that huge recruitment pool available.
And how many other religions offer you a boat cruise in the caribbean?
Certainly beats standing on hard cobblestones freezing your butt off at St Peters or getting dizzy going around and around that monolithic structure in Mecca.

ramases says:

10:30am | 28/01/13

Bah Humbug, organised religion. The only true religion is the belief in ones self. Believe in that and anything is possible.
  I know that doesn’t leave anybody to blame if things go wrong like other religions but hey, we all have to take responsibility for our own actions in this life no matter what other people say.
  To rely on a crutch of a belief that uses a written word, written centuries after the supposed events, to justify itself beggars belief ,especially when one considers that each and every word can be interpreted to mean whatever the reader wants.

tez says:

12:35pm | 28/01/13

Religion a means by which the people are to be kept under control.

Sub Ed says:

11:57am | 28/01/13

He probably wants to know what “insistant” means.

Gregg says:

12:57pm | 28/01/13

I think it was more that he heard he could have a snort of anything out in the Green room and decided that seeing everyone could be there’d not be much chance of winning.

Anniebello says:

12:27pm | 28/01/13

Yeah Pa, totally agree ... except the WA gov are already building a new hospital as well as replacing the air con at RPH. It all takes time - maybe if we weren’t so isolated over here. It also cost money - if the Feds didn’t jip us out of most of our GST there would be more money to go around.

And don’t forget WA isn’t just Perth so we need to spend money in the regions ... and before everyone jumps up about the miners not paying their share ... royalties and minerals belong to the states not the commonwealth. If not for Keating bringing in fringe benefits tax, the miners would be living in the north (no FIFO) and the companies would be building infrastructure like they used to.

Then you have to put up with all the whining about Perth being dullsville but heaven help the gov who want to spend a bit of cash on things that will help generate more income. Believe it or not, stadiums and beaches will bring in tourist dollars.

But hang on ... generate more income means less GST so go figure, maybe we should just turn WA into a great big national park like Tassie and we can all sit here with our hands out.
Sneakers McGowan can bleat all he likes but at least Barnett puts WA first, WA Labor have already proven they will toe the Federal Labor line - and WA gets shafted again.

Achmed says:

01:28pm | 28/01/13

Yep building Fiona Stanley Hospital that was already fully funded when and the money put aside to pay for by the previous Labor Govt.  Colon decided to withdraw $400 million and not build the Emergency Trauma Unit at the Hosp, that $400 million is being used to fund the Ditch-on-the-Swan.
Last year WA had its GST share reduced by $600 million, its not the reduction in GST that has seen state debt blow out from $4billion when Colon gained govt to the current $20 billion. And he’s managed to do this with all the extra revenue from the utility increases (60% for electricity), increased state taxes and the massive $$$$ windfall of stamp duty with the housing price boom