There’s a fascinating story going about this morning about a completely blind man who can hike and even ride a BMX bike by “using a revolutionary ‘bat-like’ ability known as ‘Flash Sonar’ to create a special picture of the world around him using clicking sounds made with his tongue.”


news.com.au reports that the 45-year-old mobility specialist wants blind people to “step up to the plate”, and take responsibility for their own mobility. As far as he’s concerned, there’s nothing that they can’t do. What do you think about this? He’s got a can-do attitude. What else could be done to help those with a sensory disability get around?

In other news, we haven’t done The Thursday Word in awhile - it returns tomorrow, with a bang.

It’s Wednesday. What’s on your radar?

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    • Vivian says:

      06:24am | 22/02/12

      There are only rarely times when, as a follower of an online conversation, you get to laugh uproariously at someone that self owns themselves in a spectacular way. I found one yesterday..

      And here we go

      “Tim says:
      11:04am | 21/02/12
      Looks like Climate Sceptic Gate is heating up:
      http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/02/20/heartland-launches-legal-action-against-climate-change-bloggers-journos/
      Hmmm,
      why launch legal action? What have the climate sceptics got to hide?
      There’s something smelly here, we need to follow the money.”

      Oh dear Tim. Perhaps you should read more widely and not rely on leftist trash media.

      http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/20/breaking-gleick-confesses/#more-57113

      Le Gasp!!!

      It appears one of the chief acolytes in the warmists fraud scheme was the thief. Let us review. This is a man that was recently awarded the honour to be the CHAIR of the AGU task force on scientific ethics and integrity. Not on the panel, the chairman.

      You could cut the irony with a knife.

      But wait it gets better. This is a man that wanted a rational debate but refused an invitation from Heartkand to come to a debate. Repeatedly. I love this guy. Don’t you?

      Gleick is also an elected member of the the National Academy of Sciences. Note that this august body is one where you do not apply. They ask you to join. How proud they must be.

      So let us recap. Here is one of the warmingist wamists. Of impeccable scientific background. A man though so highly he was ask to chair an ethics committee. Ms Shepherd – are you taking notes? - he is AN EXPERT in his field. This is one of the experts you look to when you claim we need the carbon tax. This is the guy that gives Mr Sharwood his belief that the snows are receding on his holidays. This is one of the guys that Mr Farr would looked to justify his infantile mocking of the good and proper Lord Christopher Monckton, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley.

      Gleick is a thief and a fraud. A man with the weight of the scientific community behind him cannot even hold an argument against some privately funded think tank. A leader of the science community, so respected they looked to him to guide them on ethics.
      How embarrassing it must be for all of you.
      I can’t wait until we get the ultimate prize from this despicable man though and he goes full confession and admits he forged the dodgy memo. I do so hope Heartland prosecutes this imbecile to the full extent of the law.
      Happy days indeed. This AGW fraud and with it the futile carbon tax is starting to unravel at an alarming rate. History will damn those that promoted this farce.

      So back to your original point Tim. Let us follow the money. What we have on one side is a privately funded think tank wanting to debate , I assume you are of the opinion that people can spend their money in any legal way they desire? On the other we have an EXPERT scientist backed by unlimited government funding, the “consensus” of what is it these days the majority or is it all of the repitable scientists in the world (what a lie that is) and the vast majority of the msm needing to lie and cheat and steal to get his “science is in – we have a consensus – if you oppose it you are a Denier” point across.

      So yes, let us follow the money. Government funding in the billions if not trillions and the backing of the media with interfernece from the “science” journals vs a think tank or 2 and a few bloggers plus the odd scientist and allies that chief political reporters deign fit to give free character assessments on. Which order of battle would you rather be on Tim?

      Yeh seems fair.

      I repeat. It must be very embarrassing for you.

      PS What would the reaction be here and everywhere is say Carter was found was fond to have done this same thing? Hmmm?

    • denying art says:

      10:06am | 22/02/12

      hahahah
      whatsupwiththat?
      Are you serious? Haven’t been following this debate for a while have you dear?

      A retired radio station weatherman vs thousands of scientists and organisation such as NASA.

      Bring up whatssupwiththat and you start with zero credibility.

    • Erick says:

      10:28am | 22/02/12

      @denying - You sure are good at denial, as your name implies.

      Here’s a hint: A person’s career or qualifications don’t change the facts. And the facts are still there, no matter how hard you try to deny them.

    • Bertrand says:

      10:29am | 22/02/12

      @Vivian - “You could cut the irony with a knife.”

      Indeed you could.

      Global warming conspiracy theorist goes on long-winded internet rant about the apparent fraud that is climate change, yet is unable to demonstrate any real understanding of the scientific method; the meaning of scientific consensus; or the overwhelming empirical evidence, based on centuries-old laws of physics and chemistry, that concludes pumping billions of tons of a heat trapping gas into the atmosphere leads to more heat being trapped in the atmosphere.

    • Erick says:

      10:50am | 22/02/12

      @Bertrand - Your comment doesn’t address anything that Vivian said in his comment. Denial seems to be the big thing among warmies today.

    • jensen says:

      11:00am | 22/02/12

      What’s the matter erick?
      Couldn’t turn this comment into misogynist rant?

      Stick to your pet phobia.

    • iansand says:

      11:09am | 22/02/12

      Can someone point to the page on Wattsupwiththat where Watts rages against the hacker who hacked the “Climategate” emails.  He must have done it, but I can’t see where.

    • Bertrand says:

      11:34am | 22/02/12

      @Erick - what points? Vivian did nothing but launch an ad hominem attack on one climate scientist and somehow used this to justify his disbelief in decades of scientific research and centuries of basic scientific knowledge.

      An ad hominem attack on one scientist does nothing but show Vivian doesn’t understand how the scientific method works… science is not the ideas of one person, it is built upon the work and research of thousands of scientists over many years.

      If Vivian is going to dispute climate science, why doesn’t he actually address the fundamental scientific concepts underlying it? As my original comment said, it was a long winded rant that demonstrated no understanding of science in general, or the specific science of climate change.

    • Tim says:

      12:29pm | 22/02/12

      I checked that fishing spot yesterday and I’d only caught a couple of small fish. I was disappointed

      Now I see that my bait had actually caught a massive retarded shark.
      hook, line and sinker.

    • Tim says:

      12:37pm | 22/02/12

      Oh and BTW,

      I love how Vivian thinks that think tanks and institutes supported and funded by multi trillion dollar industries are somehow the little guy against climate scientists and researchers who survive on tiny grants from universities and governments.
      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

    • gobsmack says:

      01:07pm | 22/02/12

      @Vivian
      A pathetic attemp to deflect from Hearland’s secret agenda.
      The fact that a document was obtained by deceptive, or even illegal, means does not invalidate the contents of the document.  Most of the Wikileaks documents were obtained by dubious methods.
      I will repeat the point I made a few days ago: documents can’t be both forgeries and stolen.
      As I said before, if the shoe had been on the other foot, we wouldn’t have heard the end of it from the various posters who throw around terms like “climategate” and who think the “climate debate” is to be won by discrediting individuals.

    • RyaN says:

      01:45pm | 22/02/12

      @Bertrand: How about she isn’t disputing the scientific method, in fact most don’t since to date there is not one peer reviewed article showing definitive evidence of a human marker in Global Warming.

      The “Climate Change” gear is undisputable since the climate changes, this we know as it has done for billions of years before humans came along.

    • Erick says:

      03:01pm | 22/02/12

      @Bertrand - It’s not an ad hominem attack, unlike your comment. It’s a documented exposure of fraud.

      First Climategate, and the scandals that followed. Now this. It’s starting to look like “climate scientists” are a pretty unreliable bunch.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      03:04pm | 22/02/12

      I usually agree with you RyaN, but I don’t see how the release of countless tonnes of carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, by humans hasn’t had an impact on the Earths climate. I don’t think it can simply be denied merely because we can’t actually test it. However, methane is also a greenhouse gas, as well as water vapour (the most abundant), and so I’m against treating carbon as a dirty word.

    • Maya Porter says:

      03:16pm | 22/02/12

      So Gobsmack takes the Protocols of the learned Elders of Zion defense - i.e. it doesn’t matter if it’s fake it’s still all true. Gleick will be facing criminal charges not only for wire fraud (impersonation to gain by deception) he will also be charged with having created the so called strategy document. Nothing in the validated other documents is in any way shape or form some sort of smoking gun against Heartland or Skeptics.

      And Alarmists need to stop bringing up the old straw man that skeptics are ‘deniers’. No skeptic denies greenhouse gas theory - we do however contend the number given to the feedback caused by clouds. The IPCC makes the implicit assumption that clouds are net positive reinforcement yet all studies show this to be otherwise - but the IPCC needs net negative feedback to validate it’s ‘models’ The models that were shown in Climategate to be totally fudged. No on is denying that the globe warmed in the 20th century, just that theamount was exaggerated by the urban heat effect, 500 nuclear bombs releasing terraJoules of energy into the system, long term cycles (milankovitch) and short term (ENSO La Nina/El Nino) and that the system as a whoe. has thermostatic prioperties as shown by the behaviour of heat and moisture in the tropics. Stop pretending that skeptics are stupid idiots that don’t beleive science. It’s pathetic.

    • RyaN says:

      03:48pm | 22/02/12

      @Wynston Cruso: I am 100% against pollution etc, I also cannot beleive that spewing forth all sorts of chemicals into the earths atmosphere isn’t going to have some sort of effect on the earth in some way.
      Global Warming on the other hand is flawed in so many ways, not to mention the massive profiteering by so-called “green” groups who waste billions of dollars on something there is no proof of to the detriment of funding to save forests and endangered wildlife.

      I also hate being lied to.

    • Bertrand says:

      07:23pm | 22/02/12

      @RyaN - oh my. Are you really suggesting the scientific evidence isn’t there for man-made climate change? Have you ever actually read anything on the topic that doesn’t come from denialist websites?

      If you are going to make the natural variance argument you actually need to identify what natural forces are leading to that variance. Possible forces that can change climate have been identified and studied. They are as follows:

      Change in the Earth’s orbit? Hasn’t happened.

      Solar variation? Yes there has been some of this over the past decade. Too bad it was a change in the wrong direction. We have been experiencing a solar minimum over the past decade. If the changes in global temperatures were being driven by solar variation we would be seeing a drop in temperature.. The opposite happened. The last decade was the hottest on record.

      Changes in the concentration of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere?

      Oh wait. Haven’t we increased by almost 40% the amount of the most significant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Couldn’t possibly be that could it?

      Well, what does the science say?

      The causal relationship between human greenhouse gas emissions and the increase in global temperatures has been demonstrated in a number of ways. Since the 1820s scientists have known that some chemicals (including CO2) act to trap heat. This is fairly basic physics and chemistry at work and is easily proven through repeatable experimentation. Furthermore, the effect these chemicals have on controlling climate is readily observable – in their absence the Earth would be uninhabitable, as heat radiation that hits the Earth would quickly disappear back into space. The observation that we do not freeze to death every night is evidence of the role played by greenhouse gases in trapping heat and warming the Earth. Put simply, these basic experimental and observation-based scientific facts provide the causal link between increased concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere and increased temperatures.

      So the scientific evidence amassed by thousands of scientists that all points to only one possible explanation for the current increase in global temperatures is apparently not evidence enough for you. Yet you are willing to swallow lies being fed to you by a very small number of people being financed by vested interests in the energy industry.

      In the absence of the ability to do a controlled experiment (ie. create a second Earth exactly the same as the Earth at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution and expose it to the exact same conditions that this Earth was exposed to since then, minus the human-caused release of CO2 that has occurred in this time), I’m not sure what evidence you actually want?

    • Mahhrat says:

      06:48am | 22/02/12

      I know a guy who is similarly blind.  Top fellow, though he goes for the Magpies.

      You ought to see this guy operate his PC!  He’s got a program called Jaws, which “reads” the screen to him, and of course he uses no mouse, only keyboard commands.

      That thing reads to him at something like 450 words per minute.  To us, it sounds like garbled nonsense, but he’s hearing it just fine.

      Sure, his spelling is a little off - he writes phonetically, having gone blind before learning to read - but damn me!  He now works for the QANTAS call centre, and has done for years.

      Top bloke, and proof life’s what you make it.  If only he’d get off the damn pies!!

    • fairsfair says:

      08:43am | 22/02/12

      My uncle is almost completely blind. His “friend” shot him in one eye with a pellet gun when he was 12 and now has issues with his other eye. His employer has been fantastic. They have done absolutely everything they can do to keep him in the workforce. It is so nice to see that there are employers out there (because the equipment and special conditions does cost money) who are willing to invest in their people.

      He has a phone that talks to him and though he can’t drive - that is the apprentice’s job - driver.

    • xar says:

      09:17am | 22/02/12

      life can be what you make of it, but without medical/care/assistance needs met, and employers who are willing to include people with a disability in the workforce you can’t make as much of it as you should be able to. Great to hear a success story, but we are deplorably behind other OECD countries in terms on disability employment and most of the blame for this is employer attitude and a woeful disability sector.

    • Bertrand says:

      06:57am | 22/02/12

      You guys are a couple of years late with this story.

      I watched a doco at least 2 years ago about some blind kid in America who uses echolocation to bike ride and skateboard.

      Pretty awesome I reckon!

    • acotrel says:

      07:19am | 22/02/12

      My friend completed his medical degree in the Australian Army.  Went to Vietnam, and while out on patrol with some yanks was beside one of them who stepped on a mine and was killed.  My friend got a piece of shrapnel in the eye which killed the optic nerve, he became totally blind.  He then advanced his studies and became a psychiatrist.  He set up the psyche ward at the Royal Melbourne, then became the Director of the RVIB.  He died of cancer about 8 years ago.

    • fairsfair says:

      08:45am | 22/02/12

      What an amazing man acotrel. Thanks for sharing.

    • nossy says:

      09:15am | 22/02/12

      @acotrel   top stuff acotrel - thanks.

    • George says:

      07:37am | 22/02/12

      I think the above is not so much claiming first but that he is in Aus teaching people with vision impairment how to do it. Pretty cool.

    • acotrel says:

      08:10am | 22/02/12

      I question the mindset of people who believe there should be no socialist welfare, that the disadvantaged and needy should be supported by charities, then object to their own subsidies being described as ‘welfare’ !
      ‘Snouts in the trough’ - they are no different to any other form of ‘dole bludger’ !

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      10:39am | 22/02/12

      There should only be welfare for pensioners, short term unemployed and permanently disabled. Welfare is meant to be a substitute income for those unable to work, not an income supplement for those who can.

    • stephen says:

      08:18am | 22/02/12

      Hope we get to build that new big telescope out in the WA desert.
      Something to read about other than Rudd/Gillard.

    • Gregg says:

      08:34am | 22/02/12

      That Daniel and the guys other posters have mentioned are pretty amazing in how they have adapted to life, a pushing of boundaries with their own mind and no doubt an inspiration for many impaired people who have been associated with them.
      Hopefully, many more can lead fuller lives as a result of such influence.

      Remember the blind guy a few series back on Dancing with the Stars if you have ever watched it and though his style may have been a bit robotic, he was not too bad and he also runs marathons.

      On the other side of the equation, if you saw the first couple of episodes of that new Nine reality show Excess Baggage, one of the funniest scenes was when Mr Paparazzi was blindfolded and he had to rely on commands from his partner, a woman so out of breath and so far away from him for good reason that on this obstacle course he was supposed to be guided through, if there was something to run into, he found it, even off the course.
      Classical on the not so blind leading the blind.

    • AdamC says:

      08:38am | 22/02/12

      Greece is on my radar.

      It seems like the Europeans have managed to kick the Greek default can down the road for a little while longer. Why bother? The Greeks should take their medicine now and get it all over with. Default on the debt and convert all bank deposits into drachma-denominated bonds. This is what Argentina did (except in pesos, of course) when their $USD currency-peg system collapsed due to excessive state indebtedness.

      The alternative is over a decade of continuous austerity and contraction, with no real guarantee of success. Everyone who is still holding Greek debt has deliberately taken on the risk of default. European bailout money could better be spent on affected banks than creating an ineffectual illusion of Greek solvency.

      While this course would impose massive dislocation and hardship on Greeks, and some European banks, they could then rebuild on a more sustainable footing.

    • Anna C says:

      09:24am | 22/02/12

      Yeah, I hope they default as well so I can finally buy one of those Greek islands on the cheap.

    • iansand says:

      09:38am | 22/02/12

      They should stop talking about bailing out Greece and call it what it really is - bailing out the banks that lent money to Greece.  The bailout money will stay in Greek hands only for the millisecond it will take to flick it onto the banks.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      10:22am | 22/02/12

      Was reading about this on Huff Post this morning.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/greek-debt-deal-problems_n_1290979.html

      Greeks are just going to have to get used to a world that isn’t so left as they would like it. Retirement age of 55 and full benefits from there on, mass immigration and jobs for life.

      Dan Hannan raised it well on Q&A on Monday night, just do what they have to do with Greece and get it over, not much point bailing them out so the money can be lost down a black pit.

    • Knemon says:

      01:58pm | 22/02/12

      Good call AdamC.

      Greece are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. The IMF are bragging how new Greek austerity measures will reduce their debt from 129% of GDP down to 121% by the year 2020..beauty, so come 2020 Greece will still be stuffed. Bite the bullet now, why prolong the agony?

    • Elphaba says:

      08:49am | 22/02/12

      There’s a guy who catches my train who uses an echolocation device to navigate his surroundings.  He combines it with his cane.

    • subotic says:

      09:12am | 22/02/12

      I can manage to find my way home from work on a Friday afternoon blind drunk. AND using Brisbane public transport.

      Got skillz….

    • fairsfair says:

      09:47am | 22/02/12

      subotic - I think you must be “Eagle Junction Pisswreck” whom I encountered one Summer’s eve in 2007.

      The funniest thing I have ever seen. He was off his face and had purchaced a ham, tomato and cheese sandwhich from the 7/11 near central station. I am not sure how he made it to the train, but I am so happy that he wound up on my carriage. After about five minutes he managed to get the sandwhich open and everytime he would try and take a bite, the two pieces of bread would fall apart and he was biting mid air. The confusion on his face was just priceless, but he was still chewing. He threw the disappearing sandwhich and when we arrived at Albion station he was getting off, realising at the door (as it closed on his foot) that “this is not Eagle Junction”. He yelled that so loud.

      Coincidentally, my stop was also Eagle Junction and as we got to it (only two up from Albion) he was passed out. I tried to wake him, but it was no luck. He was just goneskies.

      I then left laughing as he would have been woken up and told to get off at Caboolture as it was the last run of that particular train that night.

      Ahhh… memories…

    • subotic says:

      10:12am | 22/02/12

      @FF, yea, I think I woke up at Petrie and caught a bus back to Eagle Junction.

      Good times.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      11:18am | 22/02/12

      @FairsFair

      Lol nice one, can’t beat a good public transport story

      Once knew a guy who here in Sydney was his bucks party and he got so blind drunk they caught the first service back the next morning 6am, they tied him to the seat in the train where he passed out and ended up in Wollongong naked still handcuffed to the chair.

      Still makes me laugh to this day.

    • nossy says:

      09:12am | 22/02/12

      Well I dont know about everyone else but I am bored shitless re the political goings on in this great country. We are talking about D grade pollies who are all trying to make themselves look important - good grief where are the Frasers, the Hawkes, Keatings, Howards when we need them? Its just so bloody mind numbing. Anyway a pox on all their houses I say! Heres a downhill bike race in Chile that may amuse.
      http://www.flixxy.com/urban-downhill-bike-race-valparaiso-chile.htm

    • iansand says:

      09:42am | 22/02/12

      My theory is that every ALP MP should declare how much time they have devoted to this crap, instead of governing the country or looking after constituents, and have their pay docked proportionately.  What they are doing is acting against the interests of the good governance of the place.

    • iansand says:

      09:42am | 22/02/12

      My theory is that every ALP MP should declare how much time they have devoted to this crap, instead of governing the country or looking after constituents, and have their pay docked proportionately.  What they are doing is acting against the interests of the good governance of the place.

    • patsy says:

      01:25pm | 22/02/12

      @Nossy-How about Kevin and julia race on this bike track and the winner gets the job of PM? Much more fun.

    • acotrel says:

      09:15am | 22/02/12

      Now that the ALP leadership spill is a fizzer, I wonder what Plan B might be -is it back to smearing Craig Thompson ?

    • nossy says:

      09:38am | 22/02/12

      @acotrel you must admit this leadership mess is a disgrace fella - think of all the good hardworking men and women of Australia going about their daily busines etc and we have Labor pollies behaving like schoolkids, and unruly ones at that. Just no excuse acotrel and its time they pulled their socks up!

    • TimB says:

      10:00am | 22/02/12

      If hadn’t already lost all credibility here, your incessant defence of Thomson would clinch it.

    • John F says:

      09:47am | 22/02/12

      To bad we dont have a bus and a boat handy to pick them up and bring them home ! That would be an interesting “boat people” situation for the goverment lol

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      03:11pm | 22/02/12

      God forbid something terrible should happen to our criminals….. I’d lose so much sleep I’m sure.

    • Vivian says:

      09:46am | 22/02/12

      http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/agl-to-pass-on-carbon-tax-costs/story-e6frea6u-1226274725351

      Ahh yes the Carbon Tax. The tax that modelling told us and the punch reported ad nauseum would not cost us anything. In fact we would be all “better off” except for all the government intrusion, wasted billions on green schemes, trashing of the economy and little stuff like that.

      We now find that what the modelling told us and what will actually occur is a teensie weensie bit different. Power costs that were supposed to rise by 10% (god help us) over 5 years now do it over 1.

      There ya go . All savings gone in year 1 and we are now in a loss situation. And this is JUST one bill. What about everything else we buy that relies on electricty in it’s provision? Little things like food. Do people seriously think Coles, Woolies etc will say not an issue we will absorb the cost. Big lol at you if you think so.

      The tax is not started. The modelling is shown to be wrong. Very wrong. And yet this publication still laps up the propaganda and from “experts”.

      http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/20-cents-stands-between-labor-and-electoral-oblivion/

      How is that 20cents looking now?

      In other modelling news from “experts”

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203646004577213244084429540.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_carousel_3

      Gosh. I bet they wish that pesky temperature would just behave like the models say.

      Oh well never mind. I am sure Gleick and his pals on ethics committees of scientists for warmists wet dreams will just forge some more docs or records and make sure that pesky reality line starts doing what it is supposed to. Isn’t it a “tragedy”?

      And Gillard thinks Rudd is her biggest problem. The fun is yet to start.

    • fairsfair says:

      10:30am | 22/02/12

      I don’t know why Channel 7 in Brisbane would get Richo to be their political correspondent during the election.

    • Similar says:

      10:09am | 22/02/12

      We need more articles on leadership challenges.
      I’m sure there are some out there who haven’t bought your rubbish yet.

    • fairsfair says:

      10:13am | 22/02/12

      On more week of work… one more week of punching for fairsfair!! I am fast running out of things to do and I think it so fitting that I finish up on Feb 29 as much like this job - this time next year it won’t even exist to me. Yay!!!!

    • Aitch B says:

      10:23am | 22/02/12

      @fairsfair

      Go get ‘em, girl!!

      Hopefully you won’t be reminded of how bad the job was every four years….....  smile

      You sure you won’t be able to pop your head through the Punch door occasionally and say hello?

    • Elphaba says:

      11:02am | 22/02/12

      Nice job.

      I’m going to hang up my hat as well, I think.  Just the last few days of no punching was actually really good.  I loved it.

      C’est la vie. wink

    • TimB says:

      11:18am | 22/02/12

      Both Fairs AND Elph leaving?

      Oh this is no good.

    • nossy says:

      11:19am | 22/02/12

      @fairsfair - thumbs up there fairs - best of luck to you.

    • fairsfair says:

      11:22am | 22/02/12

      Thanks guys.

      The Punch is like crack. I’m looking forward to starting afresh and skiving off looking at the internet is probably not the best attitude to take from day one. But I am sure I will probably end up reviewing on my lunch break or at night time. So yes, who am I kidding, I will no doubt still be reading even if I’m not contributing inane comments. Until then… I have sweet FA to do so I am going to spam this joint! LOL

      I can appreciate why you feel the way you do Elph. I went through it a while back with Reg… remember him? It is just so unnecessary and you get to a point where you think why do I invite this sh*t into my life? This is supposed to just be a bit of fun, an opportunity to have your opinion or attitude toward something else changed through conversation with others - not a place where every thing that escapes your keyboard is attacked because some clown out there has something against you personally. They are the pathetic ones and it is a shame that it goes on, because it really is my only criticism of this place. Not that it isn’t controlled, just that their are c*cks in this world who think it witty and/or entertaining.

    • Elphaba says:

      11:41am | 22/02/12

      The Open Thread is ok, but the rest is just reruns.  It doesn’t matter how many articles run on web censorship, religion, Rudd’s hostile takeover, how women f*ck up men, how men f*ck up women - I’m just saying the same stuff.

      It’s not the Punch’s fault.  This has just run out of stuff to offer me.  It happens.

    • Ben C says:

      01:10pm | 22/02/12

      The Punch will be poorer for the loss of both fairs and Elph. I do hope you’ll both be commenting in some capacity in times to come.

    • Anthony Sharwood

      Anthony Sharwood says:

      02:20pm | 22/02/12

      Wot Ben C said. And I say this out of respect, not the desire for clicks

    • Max Redlands says:

      02:57pm | 22/02/12

      I, too, will miss both of you.

    • LJ Dots says:

      05:51pm | 22/02/12

      I first started punching when you gals/guys (how terribly PC of me) were most prolific, which kinda helped hook me into this blog. Cheers fairs and Elph.

    • Love the Planet says:

      10:28am | 22/02/12

      Yesterday’s piece on depression has inspired me to write this. Depression is generally classified as feeling helpless, feeling you are trapped in a situation with no means of escape. The fact that so many people on this site revealed they feel that way or have felt that way suggests something is very wrong but I think that this is actually a very healthy thing. I think what all this represents is a new hope for humanity because we are becoming aware that society is sick, the boil has to be lanced, the infection cleaned and healed. Society once hid everything away, repressed it until it came out in some crazy way, or took to the bottle or to drugs. Now we are actually beginning to question what we are doing and to challenge unhealthy behaviours, other people’s behaviours and our own. Inevitably this leads to feelings of confusion, because when we challenge old ideas ourselves and others around us get upset, but this is healthy. This means progress is being made. We live in an age where we communicate with people not only within our local community, but globally, and new viewpoints and issues are being brought to us every day. We are becoming so much more aware of our potential as humans, and our vulnerabilities. This is an age of great hope. How we all progress depends on how you as an individual decide to interact with others. If enough people become consciously aware of the impact of their decisions, not only with the concern of themselves and their families but of all society, then the feeling of helplessness that is making so many people sick will be negated. In short, we need to start caring for each other more and yes dare I say it love one another, imagine what we could achieve.

    • Aitch B says:

      10:36am | 22/02/12

      As Big Kev would have said….. “I’m Excited!!!”

      The new Blondie tribute band has its first full rehearsal tonight with new drummer and synth/keys player…... should be a hoot!!

      Can’t wait to get this one up and running…. I’m a bit bored with the other bands at present and new material is always a challenge.

      We haven’t worked out a name yet but I’m thinking “Blonde, eh?”

      FYI our starting material is:

      Atomic
      Rapture
      The Hardest Part
      Dreaming
      In The Flesh
      One way or Another
      Call Me
      Heart of Glass
      Picture This

      Bring . it . on!! (hmm…. where have I heard that before?)

    • fairsfair says:

      11:13am | 22/02/12

      It sounds the gas Aitch B

      I love Blonde, eh?

      Or maybe some sort of a play on Debbie Harry/Dirty Harry…

    • Knemon says:

      02:08pm | 22/02/12

      @ Aitch B - Does your lead singer resemble Deborah Harry, if so, then you’re on a winner.
      wink

    • Aitch B says:

      03:34pm | 22/02/12

      @Knemon

      Well….. sort of. Not quite as attractive but she’s blonde and a bloody good singer.

      Two out of three will do me!! smile

    • fairsfair says:

      11:03am | 22/02/12

      http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/despair-ends-in-tears-and-tributes/story-e6freoof-1226277626545

      Does anyone else thing that the Courier Mail’s obsession with this is ust a bit too much? On the home page there is a notation with this story **new pic or father and son**

      Have some respect! This is a terrible event and very sad. It has been reported, it is no longer any of our business why he did this - he did - there is no getting away from that. Isn’t this unethical? I thought suicide was a taboo subject in terms of reportage (as it should be - it is highly personal).

      I am really sick of the Australian Media. It really is pathetic.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      11:22am | 22/02/12

      How did the child die? did he drown or was he killed beforehand?

    • xar says:

      11:29am | 22/02/12

      I’m just squicked by him being called a perfect father after killing his 2 year old. I seem to have a different definition to aus media!

    • fairsfair says:

      11:39am | 22/02/12

      The Storey spans across a lot of parkland as well as the river. So I believe (I haven’t really read a lot of the articles because aside from knowing that that event occurred I am not sure why people need to know what he ate for dinner the night before he did this), he would have done this into the park below. It is about a 30m fall - so they would have both died from the impact into the ground.

      In one of the articles there is exclusive comment from his neighbour who saw him crying on the back steps last year. Are they for real?

      Its very sad, but there is more media coverage on this than there was last year when that woman axed her daughter to death and then jumped herself. I was expecting a different take on this situation as it involved a father (not a mother) and it appears to be happening.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      12:13pm | 22/02/12

      Just don’t understand how someone could kill their own flesh and blood, especially an innocent child. Especially when it has to do with their own life failings.

    • John F says:

      12:35pm | 22/02/12

      Surprisingly the media is going all sympathetic about this utter prick who jumped off the Story Bridge, this idiot had only just broken up with his wife BIG DEAL, none of the other issues like custody and property had touched him yet. He had the time between getting his son out of bed, driving to the bridge and riding his push bike. He had lots of time to reflect on what he was doing to his son. He was well liked etc which means he had a lot of friends to fall back on. Taking his own life in this situation is common but taking his son as well is just a bastard act.

    • fairsfair says:

      12:40pm | 22/02/12

      Agreed… yet according to the Courier he was the perfect teacher and father etc etc…

      They did this too with the axe murderer last year. I wonder if we have reached a point where what we say about mental illness has become so PC that the media are too frightened to be seen to be labelling this man for what he really is - a murderer.

      And sorry I should clarify too… when I say have some respect - I mean for his partner - who has just had her child murdered. For his family, who have just lost a son and grandson.

      Its devastating, but why does the entire state/nation have to dewll on it and try and make us feel sorry for a man that killed his child?

    • John F says:

      01:02pm | 22/02/12

      I wonder what Arthur Freeman makes of this ? He was very clearly a man who lost the plot yet there was no sympathy for him. I know ! It was because he fitted the viewable profile of a monster. This guy was just a troubled Saint ! BULLSHIT ! He was a selfish BASTARD !

    • xar says:

      11:10am | 22/02/12

      why not publishing comments on the story bridge tradgedt story???

    • fairsfair says:

      12:02pm | 22/02/12

      bahahahahahaha! The Best!

    • Ben C says:

      01:01pm | 22/02/12

      Haha, gotta love growing up in the 90s.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      01:58pm | 22/02/12

      Was disappointed no Backstreet Boys though, N’Sync will have to do.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      01:56pm | 22/02/12

      I thnk its the only time me and you agree on here.

      The lazy excuse for a cop was so fat he couldn’t give chase and just tasered her instead. She was a women high on coke, I don’t think she could have ran far.

    • Jamin says:

      02:30pm | 22/02/12

      This is how I see it. Tasering someone MAY kill them or cause permanent injury but shooting someone WILL kill or permanently injure them.  I know what I would choose. 

      Also I have no sympathy for someone f*cked up on drugs, leaves the scene of two accidents and who runs from the cops.  Law enforcement isn’t all tickles and rainbows, people get shot, tasered and tackled.  Here’s a novel idea, don’t break the law and this won’t happen to you.

      Same goes for all those that complain about speed cameras being a revenue raiser.  Don’t speed and they won’t take your money.  Not exactly difficult.

    • Testfest says:

      02:32pm | 22/02/12

      Well, it does raise the question about whether supposedly “non-lethal” weapons should be issued to police officers and used so routinely.

      On the other hand, this whole incident took place in the US, not Australia. She was arrested for a hit and run incident, had cocaine and oxycodone in her system, and was trying to escape police custody (while still in handcuffs) when she was tasered.

      The police officer in question didn’t just pull out his pistol and start blasting away, so I would hardly call it an execution. Very easy to judge a man for a decision he made in a split second that ended horribly.

    • Testfest says:

      02:32pm | 22/02/12

      Well, it does raise the question about whether supposedly “non-lethal” weapons should be issued to police officers and used so routinely.

      On the other hand, this whole incident took place in the US, not Australia. She was arrested for a hit and run incident, had cocaine and oxycodone in her system, and was trying to escape police custody (while still in handcuffs) when she was tasered.

      The police officer in question didn’t just pull out his pistol and start blasting away, so I would hardly call it an execution. Very easy to judge a man for a decision he made in a split second that ended horribly.

    • gobsmack says:

      03:04pm | 22/02/12

      Shocking news.

    • Ash Wednesday Today says:

      05:10pm | 22/02/12

      Its Ash Wednesday!
      Where are the ashes on Kevin Rudd’s forehead??

 

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