News broke yesterday that motorbike riders might be required to wear hi-vis fluoro clothing on the roads.

Invisible? Picture: news.com.au

But we were thinking: Is hi-vis clothing even effective anymore? There’s so much of the stuff out there nowadays, worn by all sorts.

It’s Friday. What’s on your mind?

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    • cdrl says:

      05:36am | 17/08/12

      just ban all bikes motor and push the car industry will be so gratful not to mention the oil trade

    • nihonin says:

      05:47am | 17/08/12

      Book the bastards when they ride down the side of the road like that, also double points and double the fine when they’re caught riding in between cars when waiting at traffic lights.  They’re as pathetic as cyclists where road rules are concerned.

    • TChong says:

      07:32am | 17/08/12

      ‘book them all, double the demerits’ ?
      But nihonin , I thought you were against the “nanny state”
      Just remember what Brad Majors told Janet Weiss about motor bike riders-
      “Lifes pretty cheap to that type” .  wink

    • M says:

      07:36am | 17/08/12

      You know that when they lane split it speeds up the flow of traffic for everyone, right?

    • hermano says:

      07:44am | 17/08/12

      And cyclists are almost as bad as motorists in the scofflaw department.  Have you seen how many cars go through red lights/break the speed limit/have drivers using phones?  The answer is shitloads.
      And killing!  Cars account for more than one a day in NSW alone!  Holy shit!

    • Ham says:

      08:13am | 17/08/12

      Lane filtering means there is one less vehicle in the line, and you get to where your going faster. Everyone wins.

    • Inky says:

      08:41am | 17/08/12

      “double the fine when they’re caught riding in between cars when waiting at traffic lights”

      Does that apply for when I’m at a traffic light on my bicycle, at the very left of the lane but not weaving between cars like a good boy, and a car pulls up alongside me so that I have absolutely no room because I’m clearly not a real road user?

    • nihonin says:

      09:19am | 17/08/12

      Ah TChong, very wise, have to laugh at the rest of you, have I upset all the motorcyclists, Hermano, have to agree with you, but as I see it, law of natural attrition in most cases.

    • ibast says:

      09:56am | 17/08/12

      Brilliant idea.  Make them take up the space of a car in traffic.

      Einstein.

    • nihonin says:

      11:16am | 17/08/12

      ibast says:

        09:56am | 17/08/12

        Brilliant idea.  Make them take up the space of a car in traffic.

        Einstein.

      So you support breaking the law then, ibast?

    • ibast says:

      11:37am | 17/08/12

      With regards using the service lane, “Absolutely”.  It’s safer for motorcyclist in stop-start traffic and it takes vehicles out of the queue.

      The law should be changed to encourage it.  There’d be a lot less traffic jams.

      With regards filtering, it’s not illegal.

    • M says:

      11:38am | 17/08/12

      I support breaking stupid laws. Lanesplitting is actually a bit of a grey area, and there’s moves about to have that area clarified.

    • PeterM says:

      11:55am | 17/08/12

      @nihonin - Riding between stationary cars is not illegal at all.  I have no issues with booking anyone driving/riding down an emergency lane.  By motorcyclists filtering to the head of the lights, it does improve traffic flow, as others have already mentioned.  Additionally, filtering &/or lane splitting is perfectly legal and actively encouraged in other countries.  Why?  Because it reduces congestion.

    • M says:

      12:05pm | 17/08/12

      Damn those que jumping bikies! They should sit in traffic and be miserable and late like everyone else!

    • Inky says:

      12:48pm | 17/08/12

      “Damn those que jumping bikies! They should sit in traffic and be miserable and late like everyone else! “

      Well that’s just it, isn’t it? That feeling of being above certain road rules which might be “inconvenient” at the time. It’s breaking the rules and it’s queue jumping, so why shouldn’t people get pissy about it?

    • nihonin says:

      12:49pm | 17/08/12

      Thanks one and all, I stand corrected, I always thought it was illegal, or does it change from state to state?

    • ibast says:

      01:48pm | 17/08/12

      “It’s breaking the rules and it’s queue jumping, so why shouldn’t people get pissy about it? “

      As pointed out above, it’s not breaking the rules and it’s not queue jumping either.

      Think about.  As the line pulls up to the lights, bikes pull out, thus making the queue shorter.  they move to the front and move ahead.  When the traffic is moving, the fact they are in front doesn’t make the queue any longer (unless you get one of those rude bikes that move off slowly).

      So everybody benefits from motorcycle filtering.

      Most countries in the world don’t even give it a second thought.  In the UK they have recently made it specifically legal.  they are doing (done), the same in some states in the US.  The reason being, it’s a very well proven fact that you can move more people around with less congestion, if you allow it.

      There are also some very good arguments that it increases motorcycle safety.  Rear endings at lights account for something like 18% of all motorcycle accidents.  Many more occur in “plugs” of moving traffic.  Filtering drastically reduces this risk.

    • Rob says:

      03:40pm | 17/08/12

      My theory is that people are banging on about motorcycle safety because they no longer fear us.

      Bring back the hate 2012!

      It’s high time the good old days of drive chains as belts, spark plug ceramics in your jacket pocket and side mirror trophies returned.

      Better they want you dead than want to keep you safe - all this motherhood stuff (by people half my age) shits me up the wall.

    • M says:

      05:52am | 17/08/12

      Will car drivers be forced to put fluro on their cars?

    • morrgo says:

      10:57am | 17/08/12

      Not on the cars, but in Europe drivers must carry a fluoro vest and use it when, eg, changing a tyre on the roadside.  Nanny state, for sure, but it makes sense.

    • M says:

      11:07am | 17/08/12

      What’s a vest going to do that hazard lights can’t?

    • morrgo says:

      01:25pm | 17/08/12

      Indicate your body’s position, as opposed your vehicle’s. 

      Just picture changing a right-hand tyre on a narrow shoulder at night.  Numerous people have been swept away by passing vehicles in such situations.

    • Murph says:

      02:34pm | 17/08/12

      “Just picture changing a right-hand tyre on a narrow shoulder at night.  Numerous people have been swept away by passing vehicles in such situations.”

      What muppet changes a tyre on a narrow shoulder?
      Keep driving at an appropriate pace until you find a spot to pull over completely… Or do you value your alloys greater than your own life?

    • nihonin says:

      07:32am | 17/08/12

      M, I’m sure the ‘Nannies’ between them will ‘knit’ together a solution which will benefit them and their small group of ‘friends’.

    • Chris L says:

      08:19am | 17/08/12

      It doesn’t seem to occur to most people that when a government is relied upon to do the thinking and deciding for people, then people stop thinking or making decisions, requiring the government to take over more of the thinking and deciding.

    • iansand says:

      08:41am | 17/08/12

      I don’t know why they just don’t enforce the responsible service of alcohol laws (although I have a strong suspicion).

    • M says:

      11:56am | 17/08/12

      Chris L, I’m convinced that it’s because this country was founded as a prison colony. The national character is still very much that of a prisoner who only does what the authority figure allows him to do. Never question the authority either, they know what’s best.

    • TimB says:

      08:21am | 17/08/12

      Indeed. I don’t want to hear any more garbage about how refugee movements are all about push factors and that our policies have no effect or that refugees don’t take any notice of what our policies are.

    • AdamC says:

      09:30am | 17/08/12

      It will never happen, TimB. As I remarked yesterday, there is a class of people in this debate that will never allow reality to trump their romanticised ideals.

    • Bint says:

      10:22am | 17/08/12

      ” I don’t want to hear any more garbage about how refugee movements are all about push factors and that our policies have no effect or that refugees don’t take any notice of what our policies are.”

      You just stay right here in the bosum of Ltd.News darling and you’ll never have to worry yourself with something that challenges your right wing beliefs.

    • TimB says:

      10:43am | 17/08/12

      ‘Darling’?

      Wow Badger, you are hard up aren’t you?

    • Bint says:

      11:16am | 17/08/12

      You’re a precious little snowflake timmie.

    • Gary Cox says:

      07:04am | 17/08/12

      Does anyone know if it’s possible to land and launch a helicopter inside the Ecudorian embassy in London? Otherwise is Assange going to stay in there for the remainder of his natural life?

    • M says:

      08:00am | 17/08/12

      Problem is when the helicopter comes into British territory again. Where does it land?

    • Chris L says:

      08:22am | 17/08/12

      Maybe he could dig his way out, but he’d have to be careful. The Goodies tried that once and ended up in the stomach of a dinosaur.

    • Trevor says:

      08:22am | 17/08/12

      Yeah the Americans have really given the game away now.  Storming an embassy? What the hep are the thinking? (the british for being such obvious sucks and the americans for their obvious orchestration of events) I cant remember an embassy ever being stormed by the host country before, especially for such pissant allegations. Assange should feel very vindicated.  I suppose the Brits do it best ala the Iranian hostage crisis! Better use of the SAS than storming a freighter full of half drowned refugees though!

    • iansand says:

      08:42am | 17/08/12

      France.

    • fairsfair says:

      08:55am | 17/08/12

      I heard Statham has started a tunnel already.

    • Mouse says:

      08:58am | 17/08/12

      ChrisL, well at least he’d be safe from the Americans!!  lol :o)

    • M says:

      08:58am | 17/08/12

      And let’s not forget, this is all over him being “wanted for questioning” for an alleged “minor rape” that he is yet to be charged with.

    • Max Power says:

      09:19am | 17/08/12

      What I don’t get, is how Assange can be tried for treason or spying by the U.S, when he isn’t a U.S citizen and he was not on American soil.
      So how does U.S law apply to him?

    • M says:

      09:27am | 17/08/12

      Because terrorist.

    • iansand says:

      09:31am | 17/08/12

      Max Power - A question that could be asked about many people that have passed through Guantanamo Bay.  The US does not let law get in the way of its actions.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      09:47am | 17/08/12

      @Trevor- Iran. Which is why you should destroy all classified material (including hard drives) with thermite the moment they start kicking in the door…...

    • TimB says:

      10:50am | 17/08/12

      Chris L says:08:22am | 17/08/12

      ‘Maybe he could dig his way out’


      No no no, dig *up* stupid.

      (Sorry, I couldn’t help myself smile )

    • ausspud says:

      12:42pm | 17/08/12

      Dont worry they wont storm the embassy,but they wont allow him to leave either.So I hope he did’nt forget his jammies.Why dont they just pubes all over him & just say your taking a sick dog to the vet,so it can be a comedy/thriller when they make the movie.

    • hot tub political machine says:

      01:00pm | 17/08/12

      “Because Terrorist”

      If that wasn’t a typo that is one of the best comments ever. Pretty succicent summary of the nuance and intelligence of America’s stance here.

      Also yes, I’m utterly confused. It would be tempting to stand up from the public gallery at the treason trial and say:

      “Hey has anyone else realised that the guy being charged with treason against America isn’t an American? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?”

    • TimB says:

      01:28pm | 17/08/12

      Haha Chris, love it.

    • Baloo says:

      02:21pm | 17/08/12

      Anybody else think he isn’t in the embassy anymore?
      Come on there has to be at least one super secret escape tunnel or something..

    • Poor form says:

      07:15am | 17/08/12

      Gee Tony Windsor is a good bloke. Blabbing about private conversations that happened two years ago in an attempt to get some sort of political advantage.

    • Dash says:

      07:59am | 17/08/12

      Windsor is behaving like a man who knows his days are numbered. A man who knows hes implicated in the lefty ALP green climate fraud. A party to socialism dressed up as environmentalism.

      He was too concerned about his own personal issues with the National party to do the right thing by his conservative electorate! Shame on Turncoat Tony Windsor.

    • gobsmack says:

      08:04am | 17/08/12

      Yes very poor form.

      How dare he expose Abbott as a hypocrite.

    • simonfromlakemba says:

      11:02am | 17/08/12

      I guess 2 years of having to listen to Abbott run his mouth would make anyone go crazy.

    • Dash says:

      11:40am | 17/08/12

      @gobsmack - “There will be no carbon tax under a government lead”
      “I fully support PM Rudd”
      “I fully support Craig Tompson”
      “we wont touch the private health tax rebate”
      “We’ll build 260 childcare centres”
      “We wont re-open Nauru because they are not a signatory to the UN convention”
      “I’m a fiscal conservative”
      W’ell make your groceries cheaper
      we’ll make your fuel cheaper
      we’ll provide more affordable housing
      we’ll provide a coast guard
      we’ll insulate your home
      we’ll provide root and branch tax reform
      No child shall live without a laptop

      What was that you were saying about being a hypocrite? Still on the ALP gravy train??

      @Simonfromlaborville - Moving forward ahh ahhh moving forward ahh ahh big polluters pay ahh ahh working families ahh ahh working families ahh ahh education revolution ahh ahh moving forward. Juliar want a cracker.

      I think good old Socialist Jules is driving quite a few of us crazy!

    • ausspud says:

      12:47pm | 17/08/12

      He’s nothing but a attention seeking whore,probably to divert us away from the ever increasing cost of his baby “The nbn”.

    • gobsmack says:

      01:28pm | 17/08/12

      @Dash

      “What was that you were saying about being a hypocrite?”

      I was saying that Abbott is a hypocrite.  I notice you don’t deny it.

    • AdamC says:

      02:30pm | 17/08/12

      Windsor really does seem to be an ugly, unpleasant person. One cannot help but suspect he let personal animosities trump the national interest when he helped install Julia Gillard as PM. And he seems to have spent the last two years blaming Tony Abbott for his own error.

      Hopefully, Windosr will not survive the electotal vengeance of the constituency he has betrayed.

    • Elizabeth1 says:

      07:22am | 17/08/12

      Not sure about the effectiveness of flouro vests but it would raise a giggle from me seeing a line of members from bikie gangs wearing their safety vests.

    • Mouse says:

      07:52am | 17/08/12

      Yeah , with their colours proudly emblazoned on the back of their new fluoro leather jackets!  Maybe they can colour co-ordinate with matching helmet and boots!  There may even be club wars over who gets what colour.  RFLMAO

      Thanks Elizabeth1, that’s made my morning!!  lol   :o)

    • iansand says:

      08:24am | 17/08/12

      Bikies would wear black flouro

    • Gregg says:

      08:38am | 17/08/12

      Especially if they were riding with nothing but their fluoros boots and helmets eh!
      That would certainly make them seen and could be the next nude calendar in the making.

    • Mouse says:

      08:55am | 17/08/12

      Oh Gregg, have you seen some of those big, hairy guys?  The calendar would have to be a Pickering one!  Oooh, shudder at the thought!!  lol :o)

    • Scotchfinger says:

      09:14am | 17/08/12

      Underbelly: High-vis.

      Brought to you by the NRMA.

    • Michael says:

      07:30am | 17/08/12

      Cool idea, removes the excuse “i didn’t see you” if you can’t see someone on a big gaudy bike, hard wired headlights with fluoro colours on their person, perhaps you are vision impaired and need to catch a bus or get a lift with a competant driver.

      I know people that could spot someone they wanted to criticise from a hundred meters away but couldn’t see the bike beside them if they ran over the thing.

    • hermano says:

      07:48am | 17/08/12

      This is frustratingly true. 
      On my bicycle yesterday I proceeded through a roundabout.  A lady in a large SUV looked at me, made eye contact, then pulled out right in front of me.  Fortunately I noticed the vacant stare of the world-weary afternoon commuter and had already applied my brakes, or I wouldn’t be typing this now. 
      For the record, I have one very bright non-flashing light and one very bright flashing light on the front of my bike.  Also, I was waving at her as she pulled out.
      Personally, I’m surprised that cars only kill 3 or 400 people in NSW each year, with numbnuts like that behind the wheel.

    • M says:

      08:02am | 17/08/12

      I’m wondering, if they make fluro compulsory and a biker gets hit by a car, can the biker then sue the car driver for gross negligence? The fluro is there so the car driver can see them, so in the case of a car hitting a bike, is the car driver guilty of negligent driving occaisioning bodily harm?

    • Ben C says:

      09:20am | 17/08/12

      @ M

      It already is the case without fluoro.

    • PeterM says:

      11:59am | 17/08/12

      It won’t make a lick of difference to visibility because drivers are looking for bikes.  They may see but it doesn’t register.  No amount of fluro, hard-wired headlights etc. will make any difference and studies back this up.

    • S.L says:

      08:15am | 17/08/12

      Well it’s the last weekend of the season for the mighty local under 7s. Will we go out in a blaze of glory? All will be revealed next week! Some of the team have the flu (my son included) so I hope they can give it one last shot before they go back to bed. They are as keen as mustard to go out on a winning note.
      Next year they get goal keepers and half size fields so it will be a whole new learning curve.
      Will I be back at the helm next year? I’m leaning towards no but you never know….................

    • Ben C says:

      09:24am | 17/08/12

      Good luck to both you and the kids, S.L. Taking on another wannabe Sir Alex tomorrow?

    • S.L says:

      10:25am | 17/08/12

      @ Ben C.
      Yes we are.
      We were up against this team a month ago and went from 3-0 up to lose 4-3 with the last kick of the game! I won’t say silvertails but I will say a team from the more affluent part of my area and one we enjoy beating (if we don’t bundy off too soon)..............

    • Maserati Max says:

      08:36am | 17/08/12

      The EPA insists that these noisy hooligans do NOT make much more noise than a car, but we all know that’s crap. Being noisy suggests they have some large body parts. (Incidentally, even the biggest Police motorcycles are as quite as mice.)
      Yet the BIKIE BOSSES insist that the only reason they do make a lot of noise is so car drivers hear them and don’t hit them.
      So obviously, like the bikies, we’re all for quiet bikes and plenty of iridescence for safety, day and night. We sure wouldn’t want to hook one up on a side mirror - would we?

    • M says:

      10:40am | 17/08/12

      Trucks make more noise than anything else. What’s your issue again?

    • ibast says:

      11:18am | 17/08/12

      Bit rambly there Maserati, but both bikes and truck are allowed to be 3dB louder than cars and yes it is for safety reasons.  The reason being car drivers don’t look.  If they don’t look, then how is fluoro going to help?

    • fairsfair says:

      08:36am | 17/08/12

      I got cut off by four people this morning, including a bus (the third one) whose actions generated a series of bird flipping from all in the general area. In addition to that the roundabout issue (the first one) forced me to lock up and well now I likely have a flat spot on my tyres which I will now have to check on before my 800km drive over the weekend. I seriously don’t know how I made it to work and I am so angry but attempting to breathe through it. The roundabout man courtesy waved and I let that go, but then as I watched him tailgate the car in front of him and drive his FauxWD over the median strip to merge (passing to the right of the vehicles slowed to merge) I just thought, you’re a cockhead and sadly you won’t kill yourself one day, it will be someone else.

      Generally, I find motorbike riders to be some of the safer road users. I think its called self preservation and necessity. I have no visibility issues with them if they are travelling with the flow of the traffic, keeping in the lane, keeping safe distances and driving at the speed limit. Lane splitting, weaving and doing other stupid rapid acceleration stuff ruins it for most courteous riders. Fact of life I guess. I can’t see my Harley riding neighbour (who looks freakishly like Jonathan LaPaglia as Perish in Underbelly) donning the hi-vis vest.

      Good luck with that. I’m now picturing hi-vis handlebar streamers and spokey dokeys.

    • Michael says:

      08:57am | 17/08/12

      Fauxwheel drive…love it!

    • Scotchfinger says:

      09:20am | 17/08/12

      Queenslanders struggle with intersecting geometric shapes. Come to think of it, reviewing the road death statistics, Queenslanders struggle with linear geometries ha ha!

    • fairsfair says:

      09:32am | 17/08/12

      Scotchfingers should not criticise anyone with respect to linear geometry - you can’t get those fkers to snap in two no matter how hard you try. The perforation is useless.

      ix35 Michael - it was just embarrassing.

    • Ben C says:

      09:50am | 17/08/12

      @ fairsfair

      Re snapping Scotch Fingers - hold them with just your thumb and index finger of each hand. That works everytime.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      09:57am | 17/08/12

      I know what you mean Fairs, the ones I used to eat as a kid snapped perfectly but modern ones are inferior. Apply the whole of both thumbs using gentle but steady pressure and it can be done, however.

    • Louie the Snowfly says:

      10:12am | 17/08/12

      Scotchy,
      Oiiiii!
      I can still read Punch while I’m down here at Perisher. (snow is falling heavily right now).
      I have to say, I commented to friends here with us, that in Townsville motorbike riders don’t do all that ducking and weaving.  Generally you see wonderful manners and safety by the bikies up there.

    • TimB says:

      10:13am | 17/08/12

      ‘Queenslanders struggle with linear geometries ha ha! ‘

      I want to make a joke about Queenslander map reading abilities and the impact this has on player selection for Origin. But I’m too lazy. This will have to do.

    • iansand says:

      10:25am | 17/08/12

      Queenslanders have concentrated on mastering one set of road rules - the rules applying to roundabouts - and are merciless in their castigation of offenders against those rules.

      Unfortunately this effort has got them plum tuckered out and they ignore all the other rules.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      10:32am | 17/08/12

      oiii Louie my old mate! Any powder cover up there?
      How did you get on at Paperchain? I hope you weren’t disappointed…

    • Louie the Snowfly says:

      10:55am | 17/08/12

      Scotchie,
      It’s bucketing down, 30 cm last night and still dumping.  My car is buried up here at Smiggs. 
      Skiing is absolutely fantastic, and I must say, with an all new titanium lower back I am blitzing the runs. 
      Today’s a late start, I’m off to the physio first (just to keep the back in check).  The medical centre will be packed with stuffed knees and crook shoulders by 11 - zero vis and all the NSW and ACT learners will have stacked because they can’t navigate round here.  LOL

      I’ll report back to you with the actual stats tonight. Paper chain is great - will actually purchase from them on the way home.

    • fairsfair says:

      10:57am | 17/08/12

      iansand, I don’t reckon many of us have those down either wink Especially double laned roundabout – ermahgerd. There is a definitive lack of courtesy on QLD roads (especially FNQ roads it was better in Brisbane) and also FNQers don’t get the zipper effect in terms of merging. It’s like dodgem cars really, one thing causing you to decelerate or give way is tantamount to the loss of a limb and one must react accordingly. I have never driven in NSW so I can’t compare, but my NT driving experience had it a much more relaxed affair. Could be because we were doing 130km/hr everywhere though…

      Thanks for the snap tips all - I’ll be sure to employ next time I delve into the family assortment. It’s got to a point where I just bite the whole thing. Agreed Scotch, the fingers were easier to snap when I was a wee lass and on the hunt for someone else’s tea to dunk them in.

    • Louie the Snowfly says:

      02:47pm | 17/08/12

      Update from Perisher, yep, all the injuries in the medical centre are NSW & ACT skiers and boarders who can’t navigate or steer.  Absolutely no Qlders struggling with geometric shapes, linear geometries, reading trail maps, following the rules, merging. 

      Bikkies - and how fat were the Spicey Fruit Rolls back in the day?

    • Scotchfinger says:

      02:56pm | 17/08/12

      If I was up there in those conditions, I would be holed up in front of a roaring fire, stout in one hand, snow-bunny in another. That is, ahem, my wife.

    • fairsfair says:

      03:21pm | 17/08/12

      Oh you can not go past a spicy fruit roll (pillow biscuit)!!. These days they are a shadow of their former selves but I shall pick up a pack next time I’m at woolies. Funny how you just forget some things even exist. I make a bee line for the Ginger Nut and don’t even consider anything else. No more!

      Enjoy the rest of your skiing holiday Louie - I am off to Townsville tomorrow, looking forward to it smile

    • Bonestar says:

      08:41am | 17/08/12

      Just look at the types of people who support Assange they look similiar to the mob who camped out in Martin Place claiming to change the world by doing nothing.

    • Elphaba says:

      09:29am | 17/08/12

      This made me laugh… nice one!

    • TimB says:

      10:16am | 17/08/12

      They’re (basically) the same people.

      As I understand it the call to protest outside the embassy was put out by members of Occupy London.

      Useless cretins.

    • Dave says:

      08:51am | 17/08/12

      Seeing as Assange has been granted asylum why does the Australian Government have to provide him assistance anymore. Why let him waste more of our taxpayers money. If he wants to hide behind Ecuador’s skirt then screw him!! He should no longer be entitled to any Australian assistance. All this shows is that he is not man enough to face up to his responsibilities. If the Yanks really wanted him then it would have been done a long time ago!! Besides how many lives as he put in danger or costs with his attention seeking whistle blowing antice

    • fml says:

      09:20am | 17/08/12

      “Besides how many lives as he put in danger or costs with his attention seeking whistle blowing antice “

      None, he took the names of people out when he published.

    • TheRealDave says:

      09:49am | 17/08/12

      And showing you are missing the point FML.

      He didn’t have to ‘name names’. He gave out shit tins of valuable intel in after action reports and other intelligence showing ‘the opposition’ how we operate, what we do, how we react, which of their tactics worked, which didn’t, how we find out info etc

      That information leads to higher casualties.

      Thats want this clown did. So kudos to all of you supporting him. I don’t know whetehr its pigheaded ignorance, the fact you don’t care, or just an opportunity to jump on a bandwagon that makes people ignore these basic facts - no matter how many times its explained to you.

    • Dave says:

      10:19am | 17/08/12

      The point I was making “FML” is that he has stirred up more trouble for the soldier on the ground with his dumb arse stunts. Plus you still have a minority that will take out their hatred of government actions on the soldiers who have returned home after carrying out their duty

    • fml says:

      11:36am | 17/08/12

      TheRealDave,

      “That information leads to higher casualties.” So does invading sovereign nations to find imaginary weapons. You do not see the irony in starting a war only to blame casualties on whistle blowers?

      How is it all casualties from war are ok, but any extra, even 1 caused by assange and its a travesty of the highest order?.

      ”  I don’t know whetehr its pigheaded ignorance, the fact you don’t care, or just an opportunity to jump on a bandwagon that makes people ignore these basic facts - no matter how many times its explained to you.”

      No one has explained it to me before. You must be deficient in brain cells if you think just because i disagree with you that I am pigheaded or ignorant.

      Dave,

      “The point I was making “FML” is that he has stirred up more trouble for the soldier on the ground with his dumb arse stunts.” My point dave, is that these soldiers were put in danger by there own involvement war, to blame “extra” danger on assange when they are already in a dangerous situation is disingenuous.

      “Plus you still have a minority that will take out their hatred of government actions on the soldiers who have returned home after carrying out their duty ” This is australia, we do not have a version of the Westboro baptist church here. I am unsure what you mean by hatred, but if you are talking about disagreeing with people killing in the name of our country, they have a right to question and complain.

    • TheRealDave says:

      12:20pm | 17/08/12

      You are pigheaded or ignorant because I have posted the exact same repsonse - and in greater detail in nearly every single Assange related articel here on the Punch for the last 4 or 5 years everytime some Assange fanboi starts cheering.

      As have many others.

    • fml says:

      12:47pm | 17/08/12

      You are obviously overstating your importance if you think I have read every single one of your assange posts for the past 4 to 5 years.

      Also, it is extremely arrogant to think that someone is pigheaded, when they simply do not agree with you.

    • M says:

      12:49pm | 17/08/12

      He’s innocent.

    • Inky says:

      09:00am | 17/08/12

      So I got my hair done yesterday, and got my wings sewn into the back of my suit jacket. Inky was looking clssy in his full demonic majesty, looking forwards to tomorrow.

    • Mouse says:

      09:14am | 17/08/12

      OK Inky, I’ll bite….what’s happening tomorrow for you to be in full demonic majesrty?  :o)

    • Inky says:

      10:26am | 17/08/12

      I’m going to Manifest :3

      If any punchers are attending, look for the well dressed demon with red feathered wings.

    • Mouse says:

      11:34am | 17/08/12

      Ahhh, sounds like fun. Enjoy yourself Inky and don’t forget to report on Sunday. Try not to dismember too many virgins now..(isn’t that what red feathered demons do??)  :o)

    • Inky says:

      11:52am | 17/08/12

      Mmm, i don’t know about dismember…  but we’ll see how I go wink

      I’ll likely be around Sunday, since I couldn’t get rid of my Sun shift.

    • M says:

      09:01am | 17/08/12

      The big question here is why? Why should we be forced to wear fluro? Because car drivers can’t see us? Wouldn’t an education campaign to get car drivers to open their fucking eyes be more effective?

    • AdamC says:

      09:25am | 17/08/12

      @M, my first thought was that the fluoro push is an anti-bikie measure. (Being an outlaw bikie is less cool when you have to wear bright pink.) I cannot support it, though, on anti-nanny-state grounds.

    • fairsfair says:

      09:29am | 17/08/12

      Whilst I see your point M, sometimes it is impossible to see riders when you check your blind spot and within 2 seconds some wannabe on a moto is in the space you were intending to be. The Fiesta moves, but not that fast.

      There are good and bad operators of every craft and while I think making motorbike riders wear hi-vis is the shittest idea since Ch9 brought back big brother - making a claim that car drivers should “open their fucking eyes” (when on occasion men with small penises (penii?) on steel horses are accellerating a 4m/s from behind) is a bit rich… surely you can appreciate why some drivers don’t see them all the time.

      Like the wowser in the supplied picture. It is not illegal for a car driver to pass traffic to the left should they need to pull over or pass a breakdown etc. As the driver of a motorcar you would check over your left shoulder for pedestians and cyclists. Last thing you would expect would be to see a motorbike rider stravelling in the bike lane at 40km/hr+. If they were you would check and be clear, go to go and by the time you had moved one metre the bike would have travelled 30m and all of a sudden you have got an accident with serious consequences for the tool in the bike lane.

      Thats what I don’t understand about bike riders who do these things? why do they put themselves in danger? Why do they then blame car drivers who almost hit them but then continue the practice?

      Bike riders travel larger distances in a shorter time and it is that difference in perspective and judgement that causes the problem. Visibility is not a problem if the bikes are staying in the lanes and travelling at the speed limit.

    • Dave3 says:

      09:31am | 17/08/12

      To answer the education question, simple the government would have to fund the education campaign were as the fluro would be paid for by the riders.

    • M says:

      10:12am | 17/08/12

      <Whilst I see your point M, sometimes it is impossible to see riders when you check your blind spot and within 2 seconds some wannabe on a moto is in the space you were intending to be. The Fiesta moves, but not that fast.>

      Do you not look in your mirrors to see what is behind you? They teach you to always check your mirrors to be aware of your surroundings.

      <There are good and bad operators of every craft and while I think making motorbike riders wear hi-vis is the shittest idea since Ch9 brought back big brother - making a claim that car drivers should “open their fucking eyes” (when on occasion men with small penises (penii?) on steel horses are accellerating a 4m/s from behind) is a bit rich… surely you can appreciate why some drivers don’t see them all the time.>

      Sure, ignorance.

      <Like the wowser in the supplied picture. It is not illegal for a car driver to pass traffic to the left should they need to pull over or pass a breakdown etc. As the driver of a motorcar you would check over your left shoulder for pedestians and cyclists. Last thing you would expect would be to see a motorbike rider stravelling in the bike lane at 40km/hr+. If they were you would check and be clear, go to go and by the time you had moved one metre the bike would have travelled 30m and all of a sudden you have got an accident with serious consequences for the tool in the bike lane. >

      Bike riders fault that one. How does this relate to fluro though?

      <Thats what I don’t understand about bike riders who do these things? why do they put themselves in danger? Why do they then blame car drivers who almost hit them but then continue the practice?

      Bike riders travel larger distances in a shorter time and it is that difference in perspective and judgement that causes the problem. Visibility is not a problem if the bikes are staying in the lanes and travelling at the speed limit. >

      Traveling at the speed limit with other traffic is a recipe for disaster in this country.

    • fairsfair says:

      10:49am | 17/08/12

      It relates to fluero because of the (I thought obvious) assumption a bike rider in fluero will be easier to spot than a lane splitting bike rider in black leathers - and that fluero clothing will reduce the instances of collision. ICB - I don’t agree. Its a dumb idea.

      Like I said, good and bad operators of every craft. Far too officious for a Friday M.

    • M says:

      11:01am | 17/08/12

      Scuse my beligerance, It’s an issue I feel very strongly about. At the end of the day for me it doesn’t come down to looking cool or being safe, it comes down to personal choice. I want to be able to make a choice about what I wear on a motorcycle, I want to be able to assess the risk and make choices comesurate with that percieved risk.

      As to your question about why bikers do what they do, because it’s fun.

    • morrgo says:

      11:09am | 17/08/12

      M: It is your choice if you want to be proven to be not at fault post mortem. 

      I tend to wear a fluoro vest on motorways already.  City traffic is slower, with longer response times and less wind cooling, so I don’t bother there.

    • M says:

      11:24am | 17/08/12

      Sorry morgo, I don’t understand your comment. Are you saying fluro will protect me on a motorycle?

    • fairsfair says:

      11:50am | 17/08/12

      Agreed M, the thing is most people do that well. There are just some idiots that do stupid things and when I say that I mean cars, bikes, boats, tractors, pushies, scooters, rollerblades, foot falcons…

      I enjoy chirping it into second and dragging people at the lights, but its not always safe to do so and for want of a better term I’ve kind of grown out of it. That said, me wanting to hoon in a car doesn’t present as big a risk to me as if I were a bike rider and decided to do pass between two semis at 100km/hr - the level of risk does not compute for me, but everyone is different so I certainly don’t judge.

      At the end of the day it is clear you are not an idiot, you are unlikely to knowingly commit to a manouvre that will see you die - I just hope you are aware of how things could change in an instant and I would also hope that you can also see that for people who have no knowledge of what it is like to be on a bike (the vast majority) they just can’t be expected to have the nous in terms of awareness of the machine’s capability in both causing and avoiding accidents. Bikes are just not on their radar and sadly, no amount of education is going to change that unless taking them for a ride as pilion passenger becomes part of the driving test. I agree - fluero will do sweet FA to change anything.

      Same applies to Cars vs Trucks. My brother drives a truck and I know from him just how hard it is to co-exist on the road with oblivous drivers. Like people who in a two laned right hand turn scenario zip up the inside lane meeting an articulated trailer right at the corner. People who cut in front of a truck and then on chocks for an amber light… F* dumb.

      Really, it is just a pecking order - the smaller party literally has more to lose so the onus should be on them to be the overly cautious. But I certainly acknowledge that there are a lot of knobs in cars with little regard for other road users. My word there are a lot of knobs in cars!

    • morrgo says:

      11:53am | 17/08/12

      Sheesh, M, you are slow. 

      EVERYTHING that improves your visibility protects you.  It all helps by adding seconds to the time of being noticed by other drivers, and one day it may save your life. 

      Or are you still railing about having to use low beam during the day?

    • M says:

      12:07pm | 17/08/12

      Morgo, if they don’t look for us and don’t see us in the first place, exactly how is fluro going to help?

      Further, when you’re wearing fluro, are you actually relying on others seeing you to ensure your own safety? Cause yours will be a very short career in motorcycling if you are.

    • steve says:

      12:09pm | 17/08/12

      “Whilst I see your point M, sometimes it is impossible to see riders when you check your blind spot and within 2 seconds some wannabe on a moto is in the space you were intending to be. The Fiesta moves, but not that fast.”

      Do you indicate your intention to move before you check your blind spot so that it’s on for the full 5 seconds that it is required to be before you change lanes?

      Or do you do what most motorists do and start indicating as you merge when you see a spot you might fit into?

      If everyone used indicators for what they are designed for, indicating your INTENTION to change direction, then other motorists would be aware of what you want to do and should provide space for you.

      I always indicate before I even look for space to merge so that the other traffic can tell I want to get across, and if I see someone indicating I’ll always slow down to let them in.  Though on the other hand if I see someone who looks like they are trying to find a gap to merge into without indicating first I’ll close the gap so they can’t merge until they indicate.

    • ibast says:

      12:14pm | 17/08/12

      “EVERYTHING that improves your visibility protects you.”

      Couple of points:

      Firstly, “does it?”.  It seems obvious on the surface that it would, but history says otherwise.  A few people every year are killed at level crossings of a night time by freight trains.  Have you ever seen the light on the front of one of those things?

      The vast majority of “I didn’t see you” type accident occur because the car driver didn’t look, not because the bike rider wasn’t visible.  Bikes already have tail lights, head lights and reflectors.  Yet car driver still fail to see them.

      the second point is, there has to be a limit to these things somewhere.  You could argue that car drivers and passengers have to wear a helmet, using similar logic.

      I personally think encouraging more people to ride motorcycles is the answer.  This would reduce traffic congestion and raise awareness.

      Making life harder for motorcyclists is the opposite of the answer.

    • PeterM says:

      12:16pm | 17/08/12

      @morrgo - low beam during the day makes no difference to rider safety, that has been tested and disproven many years ago.  Likewise, wearing fluro makes no difference.  There is only one person out there responsible for your safety and that is you.  Riding around assuming that you have been seen just makes you a statistic in waiting.

    • Kev says:

      12:22pm | 17/08/12

      Do you really think safety is a one way street? Give me fucking break. Too often I see cyclists ride around in dark coloured clothing at night with nothing to make them more visible and then like you, they bitch and complain when a motorist nearly cleans them up. Grow up and take responsibility for your own safety instead of expecting drivers to do it all.

    • Rob says:

      01:16pm | 17/08/12

      Funny enough, I’ve got an opinion on this (seeing as I ride motorcycles and all).

      I don’t care if car drivers can see me, so no reason to wear fluoro.

      There you go, done and dusted. I’m not asking you to look out for me so don’t ask me to dress like a lollipop lady.

      Ta.

    • morrgo says:

      01:42pm | 17/08/12

      M and PeterM:  You are thinking in absolutes, when survival is a matter of probability.  The name of the game is to improve your chances, even though you cannot guarantee anything.

      Of course it is true that some people don’t notice even a looming locomotive, but the probability of being noticed on a bike is still better when wearing garish colours and having the headline on. 

      And at times you are exposed to others, like when people change lanes on you.  Trying to predict who might do that and having a finger on the horn button only helps so much.  Fact remains: peripheral vision is mainly about colour and light difference.  If people do not look or do not see, they will cross into you.  If they only have a cursory look, being more noticeable helps.

      But, as I said, it is your free choice if you want to rely on the court-imposed education of the person who ran you over.

    • M says:

      02:16pm | 17/08/12

      <M and PeterM:  You are thinking in absolutes, when survival is a matter of probability.  The name of the game is to improve your chances, even though you cannot guarantee anything.>

      You are riding a machine which is inherrently unstable and any minor accident has the potential to turn you into a thin red smear on the road. How do you not think in absolutes? The name of the game is to not take chances in the first place. You are responsible for your safety. It is up to you to guarantee you don’t crash.

      <Of course it is true that some people don’t notice even a looming locomotive, but the probability of being noticed on a bike is still better when wearing garish colours and having the headline on. >

      Wrong. You could be dressed in fluro pink and have blue and red flashing lights all over you and your bike, it ain’t going to protect you from someone who merges on top of you without checking their blind spot.

      <And at times you are exposed to others, like when people change lanes on you.  Trying to predict who might do that and having a finger on the horn button only helps so much.>

      Predicting what traffic was going to do saved my life countless times in Sydney peak hour. I would say anticipating an accident is the only way to avoid one.

        <Fact remains: peripheral vision is mainly about colour and light difference.  If people do not look or do not see, they will cross into you.  If they only have a cursory look, being more noticeable helps.>

      You aren’t getting this are you?


      <But, as I said, it is your free choice if you want to rely on the court-imposed education of the person who ran you over. >

      I’ll rely on my own judgement to avoid getting squished in the first place. It’s worked so far.

    • morrgo says:

      02:36pm | 17/08/12

      M: “You are riding a machine which is inherrently unstable and any minor accident has the potential to turn you into a thin red smear on the road. How do you not think in absolutes? The name of the game is to not take chances in the first place. You are responsible for your safety. It is up to you to guarantee you don’t crash. “

      The point is, by riding a bike, you ARE taking chances, because you cannot control all risk factors: you cannot guarantee not crashing. 

      A major uncontrollable risk factor is the surrounding traffic, and specifically not being noticed by them.  Anything that improves your visibility is to your advantage and improves your chances, and there is evidence that certain colours and lights-on do that.

    • Azzure says:

      02:41pm | 17/08/12

      Oh and car drivers, you will probably be next. I can just see them banning dark coloured cars on the same grounds.

      The nanny state is out of control.

    • M says:

      02:48pm | 17/08/12

      “The point is, by riding a bike, you ARE taking chances, because you cannot control all risk factors: you cannot guarantee not crashing. “

      I can make sure no one is going to run over me by hoping they’ll see me because i’m wearing a fluro vest.

      The links you posted above aren’t worth two hoots because of a quirk of psychology. Car drivers might see you but they won’t register you as a threat, and thus, will pull out in front of you whether you’re wearing black, pink, or are completely naked.

      But go on, champion the cause of the fluro vests with your worthless opinion and your rubbish links until the government deems it necessary to take another choice away from us. I’m sick of living in a democracy anyway.

    • TChong says:

      09:17am | 17/08/12

      The in form ( CB ) Doggies take on a resurgent Tigers.
      The stunning , inspirational Collingwood v   6th placed North Melbourne .
      Another great weekend of footy awaits.

    • TimB says:

      09:42am | 17/08/12

      Hahaha, ‘resurgent’. raspberry

      All good things must come to an end Chongy wink

    • Shane* says:

      09:48am | 17/08/12

      Not to mention the return of the world’s most popular sporting league, the EPL.

      Soccer/Football… I don’t get bogged down by nomenclature. For all its many flaws, when it’s played correctly it’s brilliant to watch. Rooney’s goal vs Man City a couple of years back remains one of the only sporting moments I’ve seen that genuinely took my breath away. And I loathe the Manchester teams.

    • Ben C says:

      09:56am | 17/08/12

      @ TChong

      You were lucky the Swans couldn’t kick straight last week. The Pies were far from stunning.

    • TChong says:

      11:05am | 17/08/12

      Ben C
      re “Pies and Swans- was a damn fine game, but the Pies played equal, and held the Swans out, but agree, nothing between them .
      TimB the Tiges are on a 2 week winning streak !
      Admittedly one was against Parra, but Tiges got back after trailing by 21.
      Shane - soccer in Sydney is still in shame , after The Wanderers tried to bannish The Great Ray Price. A lot of good PR is still needed to fix that blue.

    • simonfromlakemba says:

      11:08am | 17/08/12

      Van Persie can die..

    • Ben C says:

      11:38am | 17/08/12

      @ simonfromlakemba

      As a Manchester United supporter, I’m in two minds about RVP.

      He’ll be a great addition to a team that has a greater chance at silverware than Arsenal. He has all the traits that Sir Alex looks for in attacking players - speed, control and creativity, and a dead eye for goal. He can be deployed wide left (should either Nani or Ashley Young be out), as a lone striker with Rooney behind him (and interchange throughout the game), or in partnership with someone like Hernandez or Welbeck.

      However, he’s an Arsenal star and captain, and we have a surfeit of strikers at the club - how do we play Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck and RVP regularly? (Note I’ve left out Berbatov - as good a player as he is, he doesn’t fit Manchester United.) There’s talk that Hernandez could go to Arsenal. Berbatov really should be looking for a new club now. And there’s also Macheda - most likely will go out on loan again.

    • simonfromlakemba says:

      11:57am | 17/08/12

      Just been frustrating being a Gunners supporter for the last 3 years. Fabregas now Van Persie, seems we make players good and then sell them. Wenger has a part to play in all this as well.

      The move to Man U seemed very strange, he isn’t going to get the opportunities there that he was going to get at the Gunners. He is such a good player and goal scorer,he should have gone to Europe ( spain, italy ) Juventus would of been better for him.

    • HappyG says:

      12:03pm | 17/08/12

      Can someone please explain to me why the NRL draw is done the way it is. I am a Knights fan and this weekend we get to play bloody Manly for the 3rd time this season. WTF. On the other hand we only got to play Canberra once !! And why the hell do the Broncos get to play almost every Friday night on their home ground. I know it’s all to do with the TV deal and all that but it just sucks. EPL starting and another long season for me as a Liverpool fan. Realistically only Man U , Man City or Chelsea can win the thing but thems the breaks in an open market. Question. What happens to the EPL when all the billionaires get sick of using it as a play thing? A bubble about to burst there I reckon.

    • Ben C says:

      12:23pm | 17/08/12

      I don’t blame Fabregas or Van Persie, even Adebayor for leaving - they haven’t got any other players with the big game temperament. Walcott, Wilshere, Ramsey - good players, but nowhere near big game players, they won’t take a game by the scruff of the neck and impose their presence on it. Their recent transfer activity has been average - Arshavin, Chamakh haven’t set the League alight. Would be interesting to see how Podolski goes.

      Three years only, simon? You really missed out on Arsenal’s golden years - Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, Ljungberg, Vieira.

    • Babylon in Canberra says:

      01:52pm | 17/08/12

      Look the POMs are identifying themselves!

      The EPL is getting like the SPL, where it’s Celtic or Ranges, year in year out. So far the EPL has 4 possibilities, but the rest of the competition is droll apart from the end of season relegation spots.

      Last time I was there for business I was taken to a Fulham v Blackburn game. I prayed for death ... yawn!

      And this is from a Dees supporter!

    • simonfromlakemba says:

      01:54pm | 17/08/12

      No been a supporter since 1997, the old JVC days. I just meant over the last three years.

    • Ben C says:

      02:04pm | 17/08/12

      @ Babylon

      This year, the SPL will be Celtic only - Rangers got relegated to the third tier for going into administration.

    • Ben C says:

      02:41pm | 17/08/12

      Fair enough simon. Got a mate who’s a lifelong fan of Arsenal, he doesn’t expect them to do much this year.

    • Shane* says:

      09:18am | 17/08/12

      I once worked MotoGP weekend at an Emergency Department. That was all I needed to convince me that motorbike riders are a weird mob. Weird, and a bit crazy.

      Having said that, I don’t mind motorbikes on the road… As long as they’re wearing full protective gear and don’t lanesplit between moving cars, that is.

    • M says:

      09:28am | 17/08/12

      That’s ok, I think people who enjoy fishing and veganism are weird.

    • iansand says:

      09:58am | 17/08/12

      What would a vegan who caught a fish do with it?

    • Scotchfinger says:

      10:21am | 17/08/12

      as a GP you would know that crystal meth sharpens the senses, but also adds a seventh sense: invincibility. Just look at the way bikers weave their way through stationary traffic to be first off the green light. Sense of superiority combined with crystal meth = Delusions of Grandeur.

    • M says:

      11:16am | 17/08/12

      Scotch, you’re a dickhead.

    • Mouse says:

      11:38am | 17/08/12

      Gee Scotchie, is that a big tongue in your cheek??  ;o/

    • Scotchfinger says:

      11:38am | 17/08/12

      lost your sense of humour M? Sheesh! I hope you have no parties planned this weekend,  you’ll be biting everyone’s heads off after a few brews.

    • Shane* says:

      11:51am | 17/08/12

      @Scotchy,

      I’m not a doctor, and after that experience I know I couldn’t be one either. Tarmac and skin make for a very unfortunate combination, and some things can’t be unseen.

    • John F says:

      11:53am | 17/08/12

      Being a rider of 25 years and covering more than 500,000k’s in that time including 5 years where I commuted every day from Riverstone to North Ryde and then to Miranda (dropping off the Mrs to work) and the returning trip which added up to @ 150k’s per day I can speak with some authority on this subject.
      I) if you expect to be seen you will be killed ! Ride like your invisable.
      2) Lane filtering saves lives ! It’s a bit hard for non bikers to get this but I will explain. When you are caught up in the flow of traffic you have to think about and avoid the car in front, behind and either side. If you are at the front of the traffic and leave briskly you only have to consintrate on what is directly in front of you. You are in effect removing the number of dangerous things around you. Traveling up the left side of traffic with 5 metres is more dangerous than traveling between cars with 1.5 metres, why ? because stationary cars don’t run into each other, but going up the left leaves you vulnerable to people pulling left suddenly to answer a phone or check their kids.
      Britain encourages lane filtering for these same reasons as well as speeding up traffic flow.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      12:05pm | 17/08/12

      thanks John F, I have learned something from your comments. Cheers for educating me rather than calling me a dickhead, much appreciated.

    • sami says:

      02:48pm | 17/08/12

      John F I’m not a rider and have never been more than a pillion passenger a few times but I still don’t understand why non-riders can’t grasp the obvious.
      Traffic gives me the shits at the best of times and I’m in a car. Traffic light turns green and everyone struggles to find the pedal on the right… at least if a motorcyclist has lanesplit and got to the front of the group they can just go, and avoid all the dicking around. I LOVE when a motorcyclist lanesplits, cos what’s the point of them taking up a car space like the rest of us suckers? It annoys me when I’ve got one right in front of me, wobbling about and making me paranoid that I’ll squish them if they fall off.
      The idea behind a motorcycle is to make your commute easier and faster. Why everyone gets so uppity about it I’ll never know. Yeah they’re hard to see sometimes, especially with all these tools getting around in their fourbies blocking your vision and moving at snails pace. So I wish more were louder because then I can hear them coming from a long way away. Makes life easier.
      I tend not to take it personally if someone else gets to travel faster than me so bikers can go for gold I reckon, fluoro or otherwise.

    • M says:

      03:06pm | 17/08/12

      Sami, car drivers are just jealous cause they can’t cut traffic. That’s all it comes down to. Apparently we should sit in line and wait like everyone else, and woe betide anyone who breaks rank and file.

      It’s a pretty sad commentry on the psychology of the average australian.

    • iansand says:

      03:16pm | 17/08/12

      Aftraid not, M.  I don’t like it because I don’t like the thought of injuring someone.  The way that motorcyclists behave on the road makes them unpredictable.  If I have to allow for the unpredictable behaviour of bikrers as well as the unpredictable behaviours of more visible cars it adds another layer of stress to my driving.  If all the bikers followed the road rules the place would be a lot safer and easier to deal with.

    • iansand says:

      03:16pm | 17/08/12

      Aftraid not, M.  I don’t like it because I don’t like the thought of injuring someone.  The way that motorcyclists behave on the road makes them unpredictable.  If I have to allow for the unpredictable behaviour of bikrers as well as the unpredictable behaviours of more visible cars it adds another layer of stress to my driving.  If all the bikers followed the road rules the place would be a lot safer and easier to deal with.

    • M says:

      03:25pm | 17/08/12

      <Aftraid not, M.  I don’t like it because I don’t like the thought of injuring someone.> 

      Huh?

      <The way that motorcyclists behave on the road makes them unpredictable.  If I have to allow for the unpredictable behaviour of bikrers as well as the unpredictable behaviours of more visible cars it adds another layer of stress to my driving.  If all the bikers followed the road rules the place would be a lot safer and easier to deal with. >

      I’m sorry, but what do you have to modify?

    • PeterM says:

      03:40pm | 17/08/12

      @iansand - Sorry mate, but you are mistaken.  Any defensive driving course will tell you not to rely on the road rules to protect you.  People interpret them differently, may not know them or be aware of changes.  The figure that is bandied about is that a 50% reduction in collisions would occur if people kept a decent front to rear gap and looked further up the road.

      Regarding your comment about unpredictable road users, I find that I can predict behavior of other road users quite well.  This is through time on a bike, driving a car and trucks.  By reading traffic you can predict pretty well what people are going to do.  This is aided by understanding.  If you don’t understand something ie. bikes in your case, go and learn more to educate yourself.

    • Average Joe says:

      09:27am | 17/08/12

      Police wear fluoro vests so they won’t get hit by traffic. This is just smart.
      Given the number of pedestrian’s that still get hit then, as well as bringing in a law for motor bike riders, let’s also make it applicable to cyclists and pedestrians walking after dark.

      If it makes sense for some, then it makes sense for the rest.

    • PeterM says:

      12:09pm | 17/08/12

      Police wear them (in Victoria) because it is a WorkSafe directive.  That is all.  What you wear makes absolutely no difference to your safety.  How you behave and the choices you make with respect to the way you ride, when, where and what you do to improve your skills and experience does.

      My safety is my responsibility, no one elses.  This is what the nanny staters can’t compute.

    • M says:

      09:38am | 17/08/12

      If bars can say no to drunk people, should McDonalds say no to fat people?

    • Ben C says:

      10:00am | 17/08/12

      How many 15 year olds do you think would be able to understand Responsible Service of Junk Food?

    • Mahhrat says:

      10:03am | 17/08/12

      If they want.

      Actually, they can.  It’s a little-known law that a private company can refuse service on any grounds it likes.  It doesn’t even need to provide a reason to the customer; they can simply be asked to leave.

      My local Cash Converters, of whom I frequently patron, uses it when dealing with people suspected to be moving stolen goods.  Since saying, “You stole this” is defaming, simply refusing service is the easier (and very legal) way to negotiate it.

    • jaki says:

      10:07am | 17/08/12

      Fat people should say no to McDonalds. Getting rid of upsizing would be a good start.

    • Knemon says:

      10:21am | 17/08/12

      If McDonald’s did say no then they would have to close their doors! confused

    • Scotchfinger says:

      10:53am | 17/08/12

      Mahrat, I think the Punch moderators have taken the law you describe and run with it.

    • TheRealDave says:

      09:52am | 17/08/12

      I demand to know if this Sgt Gore from Victoria is a Punch reader!

      His proposal is EXACTLY the same as what I proposed right here on the Punch about 6 months ago!

      I DEMAND the law be renamed ‘TheRealDave’s Law’...or at the very least ‘Punches Law’.

      If someone could dig out the article and see the histronics from wanna be ‘Outlaws’ after my proposal you will see that I have ownership of the idea

      I WANT MY KUDOS!

    • TimB says:

      10:58am | 17/08/12

      I think I have a spare kudo lying around here somewhere. *Fumbles around* Ah, here it is. *Blows off the dust*.

      Make it last now.

    • PeterM says:

      12:13pm | 17/08/12

      While I believe and know that the idea is an absolute nonsense I will refrain from trashing you Dave.  What I would encourage you to do is actually go and speak to some experienced riders about why the proposal is nonsense.

    • TheRealDave says:

      12:21pm | 17/08/12

      It means more coming from you Timmy wink

    • Scotchfinger says:

      12:47pm | 17/08/12

      TimB, isn’t that the same Kudos you offered to Emma just for being Emma? Don’t accept it Dave, it’s used!!

    • TimB says:

      01:26pm | 17/08/12

      Did I offer a kudo to Emma? I don’t remember.

      Ah I’m sure Dave doesn’t mind sharing. It’s the honour of the thing after all. smile

    • Dave says:

      10:22am | 17/08/12

      Why not set up an education system for those drivers that insist on being so far up your arse at traffic lights that you can’t you the bonnet of their car??? These peanuts needs a lesson in commom sense and shown what happens in a chain collision if cars are way too close to the car in front. I

      f you want to be that far up my arse then have the decency to buy me a drink first!!!!!!!

    • kev says:

      10:33am | 17/08/12

      Why shouldn’t they wear fluro vests? And why shouldn’t that extend to cyclists? It’s common sense. If you can’t be seen by other motorists then how will they know to avoid hitting you? Too many times I’ve seen cyclists riding around the Melbourne Uni area decked out in dark pants and a dark coat and I wonder if they think that responsible use of roads only extends to everyone but them.

    • M says:

      10:47am | 17/08/12

      If you are unable to see a motorcyclist or a cyclist then you shouldn’t be driving.

    • Kev says:

      12:32pm | 17/08/12

      M - How fucking dense are you? If you drive in a car or any other vehicle common sense says you turn on your headlights when it’s at dusk or dawn so then others can quickly identify you so that you can avoid accidents. Why is it any different for bikes or motorbikes?

      If you want to ride around in dark coloured clothing with nothing that allows drivers to quickly see you don’t fucking whinge when you end up hospital. If you want to dart in and out of traffic like it’s your birthright don’t whinge when a driver who has done everything correctly including indicating and making head checks cleans you up because you appeared out of nowhere and didn’t bother to see what the driver was doing.

      When are you idiots going to take more responsibility for your own fucking safety instead of blaming everyone else you moron?

    • NathanA says:

      12:44pm | 17/08/12

      Because the vest would make zero difference. From experience on bikes of both the motorised and human powered kinds, people look straight through you. So many times I’ve seen drivers look directly at me, I can see their eyes, and it still doesn’t register that a bike is there.

      Most people are taught to only look out for other cars, and anything bigger. If something doesn’t meet what they’re expecting, it’s invisible. Doesn’t matter how bright or lit up it is.

    • Rob says:

      01:37pm | 17/08/12

      Piss off Kev.

    • M says:

      02:21pm | 17/08/12

      <M - How fucking dense are you? >

      Way less than you, obviously.

      <If you drive in a car or any other vehicle common sense says you turn on your headlights when it’s at dusk or dawn so then others can quickly identify you so that you can avoid accidents. Why is it any different for bikes or motorbikes? If you want to ride around in dark coloured clothing with nothing that allows drivers to quickly see you don’t fucking whinge when you end up hospital. If you want to dart in and out of traffic like it’s your birthright don’t whinge when a driver who has done everything correctly including indicating and making head checks cleans you up because you appeared out of nowhere and didn’t bother to see what the driver was doing. >

      You’re arguing from the position that my safety depends on you being able to identify me in traffic and respond accordingly. I know you guys can’t see me. I know that I could be wearing fluro pink and have a flashing light on top of my helmet and it still wouldn’t matter. You guys simply do not pay attention to anything besides speed limit signs and your speedo.

      The secret to survival on a motorcycle is to ride as if you are invisible and assume no one can see you. That’s how I ride. It’s worked for me so far.

      And what do you care if a biker darts in and out of traffic? The only person he’s going to hurt is himself.

      <When are you idiots going to take more responsibility for your own fucking safety instead of blaming everyone else you moron?>

      You’d be surprised at how much responsibility we take. When are you guys going to quit saying “sorry mate, I didn’t see you” when you run over another hapless rider?

    • AdamC says:

      10:49am | 17/08/12

      Tatts is suing the Victorian government over its changes to pokies licensing arrangements, with Tabcorp set to follow:

      http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/1bn-hinges-on-one-word-20120816-24bvt.html

      It will be interesting to see how this goes, if it gets to a hearing. Having followed the reporting on this issue since 2008, when John Brumby changed the licensing system, the whole thing certainly paints the Victorian government in a bad light.

      Why Bailleu didn’t settle with the former pokies duopolists is beyond me. Sadly, with this Premier, you could almost suspect that he is risking Victoria’s reputation for a pat on the back from anti-gambling nanny-statists. (Most of whom would vote Labor or Green anyway.)

    • gobsmack says:

      11:27am | 17/08/12

      Yes, renaming a “licence” to an “entitlement” seems very unconvincing.

    • James1 says:

      12:55pm | 17/08/12

      In the ACT, there is a strong anti-gambling constituency within the Liberal Party - it is, as they say, a broad church.  They say they oppose it for social conservative reasons/religious grounds (and argue that gambling should be confined to places like casinos, as it once was, and that the laws should never have been changed), as opposed to nanny-statism.  I have butted heads with these types quite a few times since joining up.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if the Victorian branch had a similar anti-gambling faction.  Perhaps Mr Baillieu is simply throwing this faction a bone?

    • gobsmack says:

      01:34pm | 17/08/12

      It has nothing to do with “anti-gambling”.

      It’s a dispute over how the proceeds of gambling are split.

      The Victorian government depends heavily on making money from this vice to keep the budget in the black.

    • fairsfair says:

      11:09am | 17/08/12

      I so wish I could find youtube footage of “True Blue” the male contraceptive pill that was developed and advertised by Full Frontal. I can remember most of the jingle that went with it and the slogans, but the footage was hilarious. Ther was flannel, utes, mullets and what I think were original white lifesavers.

      I like the notion of it as it gives some power and control to men, I would like to see more men in control of their reproductive fate so I say bring it on. It would change the discourse of gender discussion in this country (which really needs to happen). LOL at “happy accidents”. One would not be happy smile

    • M says:

      01:18pm | 17/08/12

      I have a mate who has a child as a result of a happy accident. I reckon he’d love to have been on the male pill. It can only be a good thing in my mind fair. Shame the feminists wanted to block it.

    • fairsfair says:

      02:00pm | 17/08/12

      Agreed M - I can only see it as a positive thing also. What are some of the claimed negatives that you have heard?

      TB - Oh you nasty individual!

    • Scotchfinger says:

      02:25pm | 17/08/12

      ‘What are some of the claimed negatives that you have heard?’
      Weight gain, loss of sex drive, pain during intercourse, growth of ‘man-boobs’, incessant sighing.
      *Thinks* Actually, sounds like the side-effects of marriage.

    • M says:

      03:14pm | 17/08/12

      One of the negative I’ve heard is that women won’t be able to trap men into paying child support.

    • fairsfair says:

      03:26pm | 17/08/12

      LOL Scotch - shall add tender breasts and paining ovaries to that list also.

      Badge, I’m still freaking at that clown, but I can’t help but laugh (now). Well played sir. Well payed.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      03:27pm | 17/08/12

      it all makes sense once you get married, M. You actually want to have kids with them, and you want to cooperate. Come on, who’s the lovely lady in your life? I’m sure you’re just a big softy under all those bike leathers and gun mounts.

    • SimpleSimon says:

      11:04am | 17/08/12

      Soundwave Brisbane tickets booked! Rawk!!

    • Elphaba says:

      11:12am | 17/08/12

      How awesome is the ticketing process?  Ticketek, take note…

      Meanwhile, Sydney tix are already on eBay for $400 a pop… and there are still some tickets being sold next week.  Already, people have bought scalped ones.  How dumb is that?

      I reported all the listing on eBay.  I know it won’t do squat, but I feel better about it. smile

    • SimpleSimon says:

      12:01pm | 17/08/12

      Yep, the ticketing process is excellent. Having dedicated CPU - or a separate server - for processing the financial transactions to make sure the site doesn’t crash was a great idea.

      I completely forgot presales were on today until I saw a mate post on FB. “SHIT!!!” <—that was me.

    • Elphaba says:

      12:09pm | 17/08/12

      @SS, yep, I was thinking that must have been what sent the sites into meltdown previously - not the number of people logging on, but the servers processing each individual credit card transaction.  I was nervous at first, but after I got the email on Wed afternoon, I couldn’t sing enough praises.

      Now all we need is the 2n announcement.  Despite AJ being coy, I predict Megadeth.  I predicted Metallica, I’m overconfident. wink

    • Aidan says:

      12:29pm | 17/08/12

      @Elphaba

      Seconded.
      And Slayer should be forced to come back after the debacle in Sydney last year.

      THE BIG FOUR, BABY!!!
      WOOOOOO!!!

    • SimpleSimon says:

      12:39pm | 17/08/12

      Maybe Slayer will make another trip south as well and round out the Big 4?

      I haven’t really thought about who I’d like to see come (other than Slash making a guest appearance). Wouldn’t mind seeing Rise Against play again. I’d like to see Black Label Society, but they’re touring in the next couple of months so I doubt they’d come back again so soon for Soundwave.

    • Elphaba says:

      01:27pm | 17/08/12

      @Aidan, despite AJ insisting it’s not a Big4, I just…. I smell something in the air.  In any case, I’m getting my money’s worth for now, but if they announce the Big4, I’m going to need resuscitating… wink

      @SS, Rise Against were ruled out, as far as I know.  So were Tenacious D *sad panda*

    • Michael says:

      11:11am | 17/08/12

      I haven’t seen ATM around since the Punch booted the cloner…coincidence?

    • TimB says:

      11:30am | 17/08/12

      Possibly. But the weird thing is ATM was cloned as well and Ant confirmed at the time that it wasn’t him.

      Two cloners?

      Begun this Clone War has.

    • fairsfair says:

      11:59am | 17/08/12

      I’m a Commonwealth customer… I haven’t seen an ATM in like six years wink

    • hot tub political machine says:

      01:04pm | 17/08/12

      I’m pretty sure ATM (the original) has more than one handle anyway.

    • gobsmack says:

      01:43pm | 17/08/12

      I miss his thoughtful and impartial analysis.

    • Aidan says:

      01:51pm | 17/08/12

      Haven’t you guys seen Clerks2?

      You NEVER go ATM!

    • Chris L says:

      02:29pm | 17/08/12

      Actually TimB the clone wars appear to be over. The Punch shall be reorganised into the first blogging empire for safe and secure blogging.

    • AtG says:

      02:35pm | 17/08/12

      I miss his posting comments the village idiot would be proud of.

      Notice that flexo, samantha, Teacher Max, Doris, vera and all the other sockpuppets disappeared as well? Perhaps she’s taken them all on a holiday to Nauru before it gets “discovered”

    • Knemon says:

      02:50pm | 17/08/12

      @ Michael - Coincidence? I would say not.

    • TimB says:

      03:00pm | 17/08/12

      @ Chris L, if that’s true than that means that the *true* mastermind behind the clones was none other than Empress Shephertine herself.

      Hmm.

    • Economist says:

      12:38pm | 17/08/12

      I’m dumbfounded by this. Not so much for the Abbott and Howard love in, but the fact that he committed one of the most serious breaches of the Public Service Act, and wasn’t prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

      I worked in the PS under Howard and anything that looked like a leak was fully invested and prosecuted. This guy should be in jail.

      As for his claims about the service, I’d argue he doesn’t even understand government. The Public Service serves the government of the day already, not the public. This simply reeks of jobs for the boys, it’s almost like he wants to be a player a mover and shaker himself but simply doesn’t have the talent. He seems to live in some fantasy world, isn’t that why they went light on him?

      Creating a US styled system of replacing your management every time with a change of government is expensive and actually undermines a quality public sector as the service simply becomes an extension of the party in power and the PS produces briefings that verge on puff pieces, or undertakes investigations into political opponents or critics.

      Think of it this way it would also provide for Labor to put in place union hacks and even more people like the McDonald’s and Obeid’s type, scary stuff.

      When are people going to understand how government works? It’s simply not the private sector, nor should it try to emulate the private sector.  I know that I’m likely going to be taken to task for saying this but government is about accountability, the private sector isn’t. Programs and Policies are introduced and then heavily scrutinised for that point on, from Senate committees , to ANAO, Productivity Commission, ALRC etc.

      In the private sector decisions are made and the consequences lived with.

    • AdamC says:

      01:17pm | 17/08/12

      WTF is with this article?

      “Australian governance has deteriorated markedly since the election of the Rudd-Gillard government in November 2007.”

      I laughed out loud. I mean, what else could I do? This is a man who fabricated emails and leaked information. Governance standards indeed!

      “A closer examination of the Coalition’s dark days of 2008 and 2009 sheds light on why it was almost inevitable that Turnbull’s leadership was doomed.”

      Well, Gretchy-boy didn’t exactly help matters, did he? What a dill!

      @Economist, I agree that a permanent service is best. However, the APS model is undermined when agencies like Treasury get too close to incumbent governments.

    • TimB says:

      01:38pm | 17/08/12

      I do like his suggestion about Howard being appointed GG though. It’s be worth it purely to hear the wailing indignation from the Left smile .

    • gobsmack says:

      01:40pm | 17/08/12

      Not surprising from the puppet who set Turnbull up and fatally weakened his leadership.

      It was never revealed who in the Liberal Party was ultimately behind the act of treachery.

    • Knemon says:

      03:56pm | 17/08/12

      @ TimB - Did you notice the poll at the bottom of the article about Howard being our next GG - It’s not a good look, 31% - I reckon Gillard would poll better. wink

    • Ian1 says:

      11:57am | 17/08/12

      Mr Migoo might quip, “motorbikes are allowed on roads now?”

    • PeterM says:

      12:18pm | 17/08/12

      M - you know Boris as well.  Are you on BikeMe?

    • Scotchfinger says:

      12:50pm | 17/08/12

      how fascinating… I’ll be sure to pick that title up from the remainder store in Civic.

    • M says:

      12:55pm | 17/08/12

      Pax?

    • Scotchfinger says:

      01:13pm | 17/08/12

      *man-hug*

    • M says:

      02:26pm | 17/08/12

      PeteM, yes I’m a member of bikeme.

    • PeterM says:

      03:57pm | 17/08/12

      @M - Southern Clan, SV being the old bike.

    • Bug says:

      12:08pm | 17/08/12

      Not sure about the rest of you lot, but I’m gonna spend the rest of the day revisiting my youth.
      Just downloaded The Sunnyboys “this is real” live at the cross sometime in ‘84.
      Man, what a great band,
      Off to see them at Meredith in December.

    • Ian1 says:

      12:33pm | 17/08/12

      Labor disarms coalition weaponry by: Paul Osborne, AAP Senior Political Writer From: AAP August 17, 2012 11:48AM

      “IN the trench warfare that is modern Australian politics, Labor hasn’t gained much ground. But Julia Gillard is succeeding in disarming some of the coalition’s biggest weapons.  The passing of laws to reopen Nauru and Papua New Guinea to process asylum seeker boat arrivals has effectively neutralised one of Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s key targets…”

      Disarming how?  Every day of Gillard’s Offshore Processing No Advantage Policy is an admission she was wrong, and highlights her failure - she procrastinates.

      All Labor can be seen to have done, is having capitulated and adopted (fully?) the Coalition’s policy.  She goes further too, suggesting Malaysia of all places is worth diverting them to.  Just because an “expert” panel have been used to cover her surrender, the evidence of the checkmate is there for all to see.  From left and right of the board.

    • ausspud says:

      01:05pm | 17/08/12

      Why dont they have pedestrian’s wear fluro also,now that will be a laugh.Actually stuff-it,whenever you leave home you must wear it.

    • Babylon in Canberra says:

      01:34pm | 17/08/12

      I’m struggling with this vote ‘Gillard Government’ pitch.

      Gillard and Swan are as rich as Midas.
      1. But they are like us, Right?
      2. They feel our pain of financial slavery at the hands of a better class that exploits our poverty.
      3. Vote for them and they will free us from our economic bondage.

      But aren’t Gillard and Swan also part of this enemy top class? I mean Swan’s got property in every major beauty stop in Australia, boats and investments abroad. How is he like me?

      Where is this ‘upper class’ of slave masters? The UK has a class system because in 1066 the Normans invaded and the Nobles took all the land.

      In Australian we have our Sons, Daughters, Aunties, Uncles, Cousins and fellow working class who made it, the Australian dream. Are Labor telling us we must HATE them for their success?

      I love to hear of Australian success. It gave me a kick when the boss of British Airways would be interviewed and this Aussie brogue would come across the airwaves. Go Aussie!

      I’m sorry Labor I cannot hate my fellow Australians simply because they had the brains to get forward. Thats just nasty.

      As for my financial bondage. The Gillard Government has it’s taxes. For a Litre of petrol, 80 precent is Government tax. Stamp duty is ridiculous and Swan hasn’t regulated the Banks so they have to pass on all the base rate cuts.

      Again with such a high cost of living it beggars belief that the Gillard Government introduced the carbon tax, where I not only pay my own taxes through utilities bills, but every other buggers through increased prices. How is that freeing me from my economic bondage?

      For the past 8 months I’ve been hearing about significant job losses. Operational costs and the high dollar. The high dollar is as a result of the substantial borrowing of the Gillard Government, ... what $100 million per day? Why doesn’t the Treasurer do some fiscal magic like the UK’s Merv King to control the dollar? Why do they keep giving away money we have not got like $300 million to Afghanistan and $1 billion to Indonesia, $1 billion on 13000 illegals?

      And again why introduce the carbon tax, which adds to the operating cost for our employers? Thereby risking our jobs and threatening future economic hardship?

      The who idea of this carbon tax is cruel.
      It’s to PUNISH US FINANCIALLY so that we adopt green technology.
      Get stuffed!
      And what green technology and from whom?

      All we have is the Mining sector. So when I read that the Gillard Government was issuing 457 visas to bring in cheap labour for the mines I was sickened. We have 5.2 percent unemployed and from what I have seen, the jobs given to 457 visa holders are basic well paid jobs.

      The Gillard Government seem to the very devils from whom they say we need protection!

    • Average Joe says:

      01:48pm | 17/08/12

      Just got back from a holiday in the UK cheering on our Olysailors. No Gillard / Abbott / Milne for 5 glorious weeks. It was bliss.
      No boat people / carbon tax / HSU / electricity charges hysterical debates. Priceless.

      I could buy bananas at the ASDA supermarket in Weymouth for 68 pence / kg…or about $1.00. Back at home they’re nearly $4.00 / kg. The UK imports all of its bananas and we grow our own.

      Go figure!

    • Arise Sir Mo says:

      03:54pm | 17/08/12

      Snap. As a Brit I did spend many a moment looking at the prices of all sorts of things and concluded that Australians might one day en masse realise how badly they’re being ripped off and kick off the 2013 Australian retail riots. It would be very, very ugly.

      Great Olympic work from Victor and his merry band.

    • bananabender says:

      02:36pm | 17/08/12

      The motorcylce manufacturers actively fund anti-safety campaigns (disguised as freedom of choice issues).  Manufacturers know motorbike and scooters are deadly (fatality rates are 30x higher than cars) but generally refuse to add even the most rudimetary safety features such as antilock brakes.

    • M says:

      03:06pm | 17/08/12

      30 times higher? Do you have a study to prove this wild claim?

    • Robinoz says:

      07:43am | 18/08/12

      I rode a motorbike to and from work for 9 years, four during the time I was a traffic accident investigator and I always wore a stark yellow or green jacket and rode with my headlight on (before it became compulsory). In the year the Kawasaki 1000 was released, in the Brisbane Metropolitan Area we had 140 fatalities, almost all caused by young guys riding bikes with far too much power and being too inexperienced to handle it. Hi vis clothing definitely helps, but you have to have a brain under your helmet too.

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