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Punch on: Open thread 15/03/2011

Lucy Kippist

by Lucy Kippist

15 Mar 05:00am

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    • Patrick Kelly says:

      05:10am | 15/03/11

      Gillard made a number of misleading statements on Q&A lat night. Few of which are likely to be highlighted in the media dominated by Climate Cranks. Chief amongst these was the assertion that China was closing themal power stations at the rate of one every “one or two weeks.”  While it is true that China is closing thermal power stations it is also true that she is building new ones. This extract from Worldwatch (http://www.worldwatch.org/node/4899) explains why.
      “The State Council, China’s parliament, recently endorsed a plan to accelerate closure of the nation’s smaller coal-fired power plants. The plan, developed by the nation’s top two energy policymaking bodies—the Office of the National Energy Leading Group and the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC)—sets forth concrete targets for decommissioning older and smaller plants. It strongly supports a 2006 NDRC notice that called for a comprehensive check on facility closures over the past seven years and also made public a list of all plants slated to close through 2010.
      The intensified efforts are an outgrowth of the avowed determination by China’s top leaders to “prioritize” sustainable development. In its 2006–10 national development plan, the government labeled energy consumption and pollution as two major constraints on economic growth. China has also set ambitious targets for 2010 of cutting the amount of energy consumed per unit of GDP by 20 percent and reducing pollution by 10 percent below 2005 levels. Achieving these goals will require a clear government role.
      Coal-fired generation accounts for 82 percent of China’s total power supply and has been chronically wasteful and dirty. Smaller and older generators, which are also the most inefficient and polluting, comprise a large share of the total installations. Currently, nearly 30 percent of the nation’s coal-fired power installations are generators of less than 100,000 kilowatts.
      According to Li Junhong, a power expert in Nanjing, generators under 50,000 kilowatts consume 200 grams more energy per kilowatt of electricity generated than those above 300,000 kilowatts. China’s larger “ultra-supercritical” thermal power generators, with over 1 million kilowatts of generating capacity, consume roughly 290 grams of coal per kilowatt, while some smaller generators use around 1,000 grams per kilowatt. The coal used to produce only 1 kilowatt of electricity in small plants will generate as many as 2–3 kilowatts in larger ones.”
      So while Gillard might be technically accurate in telling us that China is closing down thermal power stations at the rate of one every week or two, she is demonstrably dishonest and deliberately so, in failing to mention that these are tiny inefficient aged and polluting (in the real sense) facilities. She also failed to mention that they are being replaced at a quicker rate, one a week from some reports, by far bigger, behemoth power stations. So for every shitty old soot producer churning out 50,000 Kw that China is closing, figures indicate that she is opening two one million kw+ plants.
      She also made references to China reducing its emissions as a percentage of GDP. Seeing as the GDP is flying out through the skylight that would be scant comfort to the ‘CO2 as poison’ enthusiasts.. However the rent-a-crowd audience were too morphiated by the presence of their hero to pick up on it. So too the questioners. No one, but no one, is measuring their emissions reduction targets as a percentage of GDP. 
      The whole program was an orchestrated attempt to give Gillard a platform to try and worm out of the “big lie” image generated by the Carbon Dioxide tax announcement. The audience was stacked with climate cranks and sycophants as witnessed by the “spontaneous” (sure) outbreaks of applause at the most inappropriate times

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    • acotrel says:

      06:51am | 15/03/11

      ‘The whole program was an orchestrated attempt to give Gillard a platform to try and worm out of the “big lie” image generated by the Carbon Dioxide tax announcement. The audience was stacked with climate cranks and sycophants as witnessed by the “spontaneous” (sure) outbreaks of applause at the most inappropriate times ‘

      So you’re saying the ABC is not to be trusted!  Where else do we find even a modicum of truth in the media?

    • Ellie says:

      08:19am | 15/03/11

      ‘The audience was stacked with climate cranks and sycophants’

      I did not watch, so some proof please, or do you just expect to be believed ?

    • Jim says:

      09:58am | 15/03/11

      Most reasonable people have been saying for years that the ABC can’t be trusted to be impartial and objective! What planet have you been sitting on??

      If you want the truth you need to watch/read multiple outlets and then form your own opinion, something you and many other rusted-ons are incapable of doing acotrel.

    • Ryan says:

      10:43am | 15/03/11

      @acotrel: “So you’re saying the ABC is not to be trusted!” well duh! The ABC is filled to the very brim with union / leftist / green labor hacks, in fact it couldn’t be filled any higher. There isn’t an objective view amongst them.
      Oh and please don’t try and play a tiresome and rather boring line like FOX News, I wish I was as rich as you lot to afford to pay for that, no instead I am paying for lying Labor and its incompetence in the extreme.

    • Reg says:

      12:50pm | 15/03/11

      Ryan, “The ABC is filled to the very brim with union / leftist / green labor hacks, in fact it couldn’t be filled any higher. There isn’t an objective view amongst them.”

      I’ve been meaning to congratulate you Ryan, you’re being far more rational than you used to be, but you’re going to have to take a firm hold of yourself if you don’t want to slip back into that ever-present fire of irrationality.

      I can assure you that the ABC is far more balanced from within than your truncated perception leads you to believe, if only because of the frenetic Liberal bashings over even the slightest departure from neutrality. (Now there’s a recipe for boredom. )

      Fortunately such irrational table thumping does not deflect its gallant crew from the course of analyzing and presenting the facts fairly and succinctly.  smile

    • Reggie says:

      07:56pm | 15/03/11

      Sorry Ryan, it seems the mods were reluctant to publish my quotes from the Australian.  I wonder why? smile  Perhaps it was my comment about the spokesman “pis*ing on the embers of Liberal discontent.”

    • Ryan says:

      10:40am | 16/03/11

      @Reggie: unfortunate mate, I would have prefered to actually have a rebuttle and been put in my place than had it censored. I have had so many posts censored recently (sometimes regardless of the content) that I am starting to doubt the actual point of the punch now.

    • Reg says:

      06:39am | 15/03/11

      PK; “So while Gillard might be technically accurate in telling us that China is closing down thermal power stations at the rate of one every week or two,”

      So….. did you want someone to stop the program while the minute detail was expounded? It is blatantly obvious that modern coal burning power plants are more efficient and less polluting than the old ones. Do I see you quoting an almost unbelievable increase of three time energy per kg of coal there?

      You’re clutching at straws Paddy Kelly.

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    • Patrick kelly says:

      02:56pm | 15/03/11

      @Veg
      That no diminution of CO2 emissions in China is palpable . That the PM implied otherwise is obvious. Why would you need to “stop the program?”

      This was not a “minute detail.”
      It was a deliberate deception.

      Re-read your response:
      <em>“Do I see you quoting an almost unbelievable increase of three time energy per kg of coal there? “<?em>
      Yes. It was quoted in my citation.
      If you you wish do disagree with me, by all means say so.
      If you wish to offer any evidence to support your case, please offer it.
      In the mean time, perhaps you’d be better advised to shut up.
      Straws?  Right straw man.

      If you can’t remember peoples’ names, perhaps you shouldn’t cite them.

      Best regards, Veg

      Patrick Kelly

      Patrick Kelly

    • Reggie says:

      05:51pm | 15/03/11

      Sorry Patrick, you’re dreaming if you think you can raise the efficiency of a coal fired power station from 20% to 60%. However assuming it is correct, this means a reduction of coal requirements of at LEAST 50% and more, for the original power output.  THAT, is a considerable reduction in pollution.

      As a matter of fact the coal stations being shut down would probably have had a efficiency of 5 to 11% assuming they had had the last drop of use wrung out of them.  So you’re toying with a lift from 5% to 60%.

      Do I have to spell it out to you, that a shift from 5% to 60% efficiency is certainly NOT as you say, .... “no diminution of CO2 emissions in China”

      For your edification, a strawman argument, so beloved of all Whirlpool fanbois, is one dissociated from the argument, and to try and conceal the frailty of your contention, attracts the same designation.

      So which is it, vastly improved efficiency with commensurate reductions in pollution OR, if the pollution is the same, are your figures cock-eyed? If your claims are erroneous, then your umbrage is likewise unwarranted.

    • TChong says:

      07:21am | 15/03/11

      Timmy B- only saw bits of the game, Pritchards(?) try from dummy half,  and Benjis.
      Looked to have been a good game, and bodes well for a great season.
      League, AFL ( mighty “Pies”, already pre season champs!), Rugby and Cricket - the 4 Great Pillars of civilisation.

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    • TimB says:

      07:52am | 15/03/11

      You saw more than me. For Monday night games I’m forced to resort to the radio coverage on Triple M. Not quite the same.

      The question is though, did you see the end? That was the critical part, and the bit I liked best. smile

      Go Canterbury!

    • Adam Diver says:

      08:32am | 15/03/11

      It was a good game, Hodkinson looks very calm and patient in the number 7 role, whilst keating is the exact opposite, running and bobbing around like a rabbit on crack.

      Pritchard gave the dogs extra punch and with eastwood, and the debutants (who were fantastic minus a few errors) in the forward pack, the dogs look a well balanced side. Barba looks promising at the back, but inexplicably wasn’t tested with the high ball.

      On the tigers side, they looked rusty but dangerous. Benji will be amazing this year, if the tigers do well, he wll be my pick for dally M. Farah look disinterested and was promptly dropped from my fantasy team whilst ellis and fifita were strong in the forwards.

      I was seriously loving the footy this weekend, depsite the “rust” in many of the games, good be a long and lonely winter for the wife.

    • Reg says:

      08:52am | 15/03/11

      TimB;  “You saw more than me.”

      Of course he did, he saw the rest of the action.  Now had you said, “You saw more than I (did)” we’ve have understood.  Think of the children.

    • Pedant101 says:

      10:16am | 15/03/11

      @Reg,
      I seen what you done their…..

    • Paul Roos says:

      02:58pm | 15/03/11

      Pre-season what now?

    • TimB says:

      08:06am | 15/03/11

      She also confirms that she was deliberately being misleading during the election campaign.

      “Ms Gillard said she would have introduced an emissions trading scheme straight away, instead of starting with a carbon tax, if she had won power in her own right.”

      Note that phrase, “Straight away”. Now I’m almost certain that her position during the campaign was to put it on the back burner for a few years until she could garner more support or a “consensus” from the Australian people. The “no carbon tax” declaration on top of that proves it was unequivocal trickery and deciept.

      Her entire stance was designed to divert attention from what should have been a critical issue of the campaign, one which if which focused on would have sunk her chances at re-elecection, just like they’re doing now.

      If she wanted to price carbon “straight away”, she should have said so during the campaign. She’s just proven how gutless she really is. Power at all costs, the Labor mantra.

    • Reg says:

      08:11am | 15/03/11

      Erich: “Conclusively ruled out….”

      Is that you attempt at freehand Erich?

      Quote… “But Ms Gillard said the Labor Party—- had not entertained—- the proposition of nuclear power in Australia.

      “The Labor position is entirely clear, we—- don’t think we need—- nuclear energy,” she said.

      “We—-don’t seek—- the development of a nuclear industry in this country.”

    • TimB says:

      08:31am | 15/03/11

      Interesting. Erick, it appears that the story has changed in the short time you posted it.

      The section I quoted no longer appears. How very odd.

    • Jim says:

      10:03am | 15/03/11

      It’s from the ABC…not odd at all. Someone from head office (i.e. Canberra) would have called and got them to edit it.

      They should change their name to TASS.

    • Reg says:

      10:55am | 15/03/11

      JIM… What’s this mysterious TASS you keep watching or listening to.

      Note, the above has been carefully contrived to accommodate the short-comings of certain readers. I deliberately chose not to use the words “that” or “which” but did intentionally end the sentence with a preposition.

      JIM; What is this mysterious TASS to which you seem so devoted?

    • Jim says:

      12:08pm | 15/03/11

      Gimme a break Reg old mate! I’ve only used it twice smile

      TASS was the old USSR news outlet that controlled everything that was said or written in the news.

    • Reg says:

      12:32pm | 15/03/11

      Strewth Jim even I’d forgotten about that and it was all the go in the old days. That and the NKVD and PRAVDA.

      How times change..

      .” The Tactical Automated Security System (TASS) is a U.S. Air Force intrusion detection and surveillance system used for security monitoring around fixed site airbases, semi-permanent Forward Operating Bases (FOBs), and other mobile tactical deployments.”  Thanks.

    • Erick says:

      12:55pm | 15/03/11

      Reg, who’s this mysterious “Erich” you keep talking to?

    • Reg says:

      01:54pm | 15/03/11

      Hello Erick. I can only think it’s an automatic reaction to the misspelling of a German name. The other option is the Scandinavian Erik. I was sure you’d understand and once more I have been proven correct. Oh bliss! smile

    • Amy Sturt says:

      08:45am | 15/03/11

      The worst part about last night was her explanation about how the tax will ‘change our behaviour’.  She said that stuff that uses more carbon will cost more, so we’d rather buy what’s cheaper.  Great.  So what about the imported products that don’t attract the tax because it’s not made here?  How much cheaper will they be?

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    • fairsfair says:

      09:00am | 15/03/11

      Fair point.

      The comment that the man made at the end - “if you think an ETS is the way to go, why not return to the polls”, is pretty much the crux of the issue. Also, if you think an ETS is the way to go - why carry on with what happened last year? It is clear that all the Greens care about is tax otherwise they would have supported the ETS last year and we wouldn’t even be in this bloody situation.

      I quite like Julia. I think she’d be good fun. She seems a top bird but she really needs to speed it up. Last night just went round and round in circles at a slow pace (clearly her MO) and I came away from it just feeling like I had been bullsh*tted to the extreme.

    • Reg says:

      09:41am | 15/03/11

      FF.“but she really needs to speed it up.”

      Time spent on reconnaissance is never wasted.smile

    • Aitch B says:

      09:58am | 15/03/11

      Like one of the twitterati last night I came out of the program with more questions than I had at 9:35pm.

      I found it interesting that she constantly used ‘I’ when talking about the decision to introduce the carbon tax/ETS, etc. Not ‘we’ as in caucus or ‘we’ as in the ALP/Green/Independent coalition.

      Shades of Rudd…......

    • Shelly says:

      01:00pm | 15/03/11

      @Reg - re: Time spent on reconnaissance is rarely wasted.

      That’s the first rule of Buffet don’t you know.

    • Reg says:

      02:08pm | 15/03/11

      Shelly;  ” That’s the first rule of Buffet don’t you know.”

      Sorry Shelly, it’s a WWII axiom related to air surveillance and the apparent waste of time having Mosquitos and Spirfires swan about all over Europe taking photographs. A well proven activity that continued with the U2s over Uzbekistan, Russia and Cuba. 

      Do you have secret cameras surveying the pig stuffers? Hey I saw this guy in a newsreel of the entourage wading ashore with MacArthur in his famous return to the Philippines and talk about FAT. Australia must have been good to him else he was in charge of the ice-cream machines.

    • fairsfair says:

      02:57pm | 15/03/11

      OK, I am officially lost Reg.

      WTF does any one of your posts ever posted in the history of posting acually mean? I am constantly scratching my head at your contributions and whilst I am going out on a limb here, I don’t think I am on my own.

      @Shelly, lol. “The Sizzler Effect” will have to be added to our ever growing list of Punchisms. If they take to long to answer a question we can collectively call them out on “Sizzlering”.

    • Reg says:

      04:18pm | 15/03/11

      It seems I credit you with more intelligence than you deserve old chap. smile

      w-o-o-s-h.  Probably the same reason you’re a supporter of the right-wing.

    • fairsfair says:

      06:18pm | 15/03/11

      well I can assure you it ain’t just me and it ain’t just this one comment.

      whoosh alright.

    • Reg says:

      06:26am | 16/03/11

      LOL ... I am not in the habit of writing for the lowest common denominator mate. smile  That’s boring.

      Have you noticed also that if one comes in here with a passive approach, the sarcastic mongrels around the place soon elevate the conversation to that of ravenous beasts? I therefore don’t give a fu*k any more who I offend.

      Take that guy with the 60% efficient Chinese coal stations. Do I ignore his stupidity, tell him he’s an idiot or explain it in detail such that you and “yours” wonder wtf he’s talking about? Honestly some of the people here are not very bright and others such as Gregg are just plain tedious. Do you understand?  Your mate Nicole…God spare us. wink

    • fairsfair says:

      05:11pm | 16/03/11

      Thanks Reg, I understood that - purely because I think you weren’t trying to be funny. But I am still not sure - for you to say that you are passive though, (and I am borrowing this line from my fave Nossy) hhhhhhaaaaahahahahahah!

      I can’t say I’ve ever really been offended by your comments. Thats not the problem. I once called you on your attack on Nicole - but that is a completely seperate matter. Oh and your continual mention of Nicole for no apparent reason is actually quite weird.

      You talk down to people and baffle with bullshit as a means of inflating your own online ego (wow) but you clearly don’t care (and neither do I so I honestly have no idea why I am typing this), so lets move on.

    • fairsfair says:

      05:11pm | 16/03/11

      Thanks Reg, I understood that - purely because I think you weren’t trying to be funny. But I am still not sure - for you to say that you are passive though, (and I am borrowing this line from my fave Nossy) hhhhhhaaaaahahahahahah!

      I can’t say I’ve ever really been offended by your comments. Thats not the problem. I once called you on your attack on Nicole - but that is a completely seperate matter. Oh and your continual mention of Nicole for no apparent reason is actually quite weird.

      You talk down to people and baffle with bullshit as a means of inflating your own online ego (wow) but you clearly don’t care (and neither do I so I honestly have no idea why I am typing this), so lets move on.

    • Reg says:

      06:17am | 17/03/11

      fairsfair; “I so I honestly have no idea why I am typing this”

      ... which is not surprising, so I’ll explain it for you.

      It’s because you feel that a woman should be given special consideration over a male when it comes to the standard of conversation expected. Erick would find that rather interesting I’m sure. This is also why you adjudge my criticism of the comments of your “thick as two bricks” friend, to be an attack.

      The tone of this place is not set by the moderators, it is set by those who are most successful in attack and to meet that standard, others are forced to adopt the same approach. I don’t apologise for talking down because, that’s what I found already existed here when I arrived.

      Now ... kindly stop undermining the good reputation of Queenslanders with your inane prattle and let’s hope the criticism is not lost on your lady friend as it is on you.

    • acotrel says:

      09:01am | 15/03/11

      SHE SAID? : ‘If she wanted to price carbon “straight away”, she should have said so during the campaign. She’s just proven how gutless she really is. Power at all costs, the Labor mantra. ‘

      And what did Tony Abbott say? Let’s have him on Q&A next week, and we’ll talk about the same stuff?

      Reply

    • TimB says:

      09:46am | 15/03/11

      Tony Abbott didn’t say anything. This has nothing to do with Tony Abbott.

      Why are you so obsessed with him?

    • ZSRenn says:

      10:06am | 15/03/11

      @acotrel Labor is failing!
      International fail!
      National Fail!

      That’s three times this morning you have attacked TA as a defense for the failings of the Labor Party. Give it a rest. No body is listening and it is really starting to get boring.

      You have obviously run out of any credible argument for these failings so you attack TA.

      You obviously have nothing good to say about Labor so you attack TA.

    • Phil Meupp says:

      10:10am | 15/03/11

      acotrel
      We already know what Tony would say - NO
      Although it would be useful to understand the mechanisms of the boat-phone and his take on the new range of budgie smugglers at Myers.

    • TChong says:

      09:03am | 15/03/11

      Libya is all bad, the “rebels “want Gaddafi gone, no ifs or buts, no parley, just gone, and the world applauds.
      In Bahrain, the US puppet govt calls in foreign troops, because the “rebels"wont negotiate, but this, conversely is also a good thing . Why ?
      For dicatators and cronies,  its best to be a US lackey , like the Bahrain and Saudi feudal systems. In these places democratic opposition = terrorism.
      And the US wonders why its hypocritical, self serving foreign policy is despised.


      They are

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    • MarK says:

      09:21am | 15/03/11

      So why did the leader of your party get down and worship at their altar then?

      Comments re Gillards fawning address to congress?

    • Reg says:

      11:11am | 15/03/11

      MarK; ” So why did the leader of your party get down and worship at their altar then?”

      Remind me MarK, did JWH decline the opportunity or was he not invited?

      Would you rather she had told them what a bunch of a*se-holes they were or brought the Republicans to tears with her entreaties?

      Let’s be positive for a change Markie, tell us how she should have handled it.  But first remove the emotive crap about alters and worshiping.

    • intruder says:

      09:39am | 15/03/11

      Libya is tribal this revolution is not about democracy its about tribalism compounded by encouragement from islamists. Gaddafi out equals another of similar vein but different tribe in. same old same old

      PS i lived in Libya 1968-1969

      Reply

    • Slick says:

      11:49am | 15/03/11

      Welfare management came in for the Aboriginals when the Intervention was done years back. It has only just come in for everyone.
      Personally, I think it is something that should be rolled out across Asutralia, and I am pretty sure they are trialing it in the NT for that purpose.
      If you want to be able to spend money on what you want, and dont want the social stigma of being a “bludger” then get off the welfare payments.
      If you are really in a bad position then you should be happy that the Government is willing to pay for your rent, food and bills unitl you can get back on your feet.

    • TracyH says:

      12:49pm | 15/03/11

      yep…I pretty much agree with you Slick…I know lots of people on welfare who really would benefit from this…it’s pretty hard to have self discipline when in the midst of a cycle of dependence; I’m talking about people who really are capable of working but get so bogged down in the cycle they end up no use to themselves or anyone. The more of a hassle the dole is to access..the more people would actually just work. But then again…if it’s too hard, and they actually jump through the hoops, they might not want to go for a job…Whatever the case, I’m glad it’s an across the board thing, not just restricted to indigenous people. Would love to see how this all goes down with other minorities (including the so-called ‘white trash’ demographic, in case people think I’m referring to any particular group!!) who are stuck in the system deliberately…also, it’s easy to see that if you are on welfare, life’s a drag and it’s easy to see how they can end up just hangin to get the booze or weed because there’s not a lot else to do…all a downward cycle. So I guess anything that makes getting a job look preferable to receiving welfare is worth a go. I think all people on welfare should be compelled to participate in volunteer community work, if only to have a reason to get up in the morning. Even those on disability pensions could do something even if it’s 2 hours a week, and flexible enough around the disability. Unless someone is literally in a coma, or a complete vegetative state, everyone can do SOMETHING.

    • Slick says:

      03:49pm | 15/03/11

      Tracy I so agree with the volunteer work. Most people can do something. It may not be nice, or fun, or what they want to do, but I mean who really wants to get up in the morning and go off to work for 8 hours a day? We choose the jobs that best suit our circumstances. Anyone on welfare should only be there because they HAVE to. I am not so much talking about disability payments and pensions, but the people who Choose not to work. There is work out there for the majority of people, they just don’t find it appealing.
      I don’t care about the colour of your skin, if you get out there and give it a go you are worth something. If you insist on wasting your life with drugs and gambling and alcohol then why should we be expected to fund it?
      I read the article and just thought “What? you think you have a right to complain?”
      Apparently, so long as you can show that you are careful with your money and send your kids to school consistently then you can be removed for having your welfare payments managed, therefore there is no reason to complain, unless your the exact person that most Aussies dislike, a “Bludger”

    • TracyH says:

      07:59am | 16/03/11

      Slick…have you noticed it’s severely frowned upon lately to even suggest there’s such a thing as a ‘bludger’? In some circles if you suggest there is, you are treated like a red neck bigot for even contemplating that such a creature exists! PC gone completely insane. It’s almost like mass delusion because EVERYONE’S disadvantaged according to those ...and if they are unemployed it couldn’t possibly be their fault; it has to be Howard’s (oops, that’s right…he can’t be blamed for everything anymore).

    • Yak of the Goldfields says:

      11:14am | 15/03/11

      I can’t believe they still make the “Test Match”. The picture on the box only looks 5 years old. They must have gone out of business by now. Don’t kids today only sit in front of the TV and kill things? Someone must be buying the product.

      Reply

    • the pieman says:

      11:48am | 15/03/11

      Oh hell i cant believe what I heard on QnA last nite, Mr Assange making charges of treason against the silly little, lying, giggling idiot schoolkid that is our PM
      She doesnt even deal with the question and then tells more lies stating that china is closing coal fired powerstations and replacing them windmills; the arrogance shown to us is unbelievable. Her brainwashed marxist uni comrades in the set up ABC audience blandy clap on cue. .... hang on while a get a bucket and puke.
      Oh god help us all with this lot leading us.

      And some of you puncers voted for this!!—Bloody disgraceful and you lot call yourselves Australians!

      Reply

    • Joel B1 says:

      11:52am | 15/03/11

      Good thing there’s so much international bad news. (For Gillard the not-liar that is)

      “Tear gas used on Christmas Island detainees”

      Oh dear, Gillard couldn’t run a tuck-shop…

      Reply

    • stephen says:

      07:55pm | 15/03/11

      We’re a mile ahead of you.
      But we like you.

    • stephen says:

      08:51pm | 15/03/11

      ... tear gas means than yer think.

    • Lucy Kippist

      Lucy Kippist says:

      12:04pm | 15/03/11

      Zeta, are you there?  I’m tracking down a word for tomorrow’s thread. And as you were last week’s winner, you have the right to this week’s word. If not, we’ll open it to anyone else who’d like to try it.

      Reply

    • TracyH says:

      01:08pm | 15/03/11

      Is there a word missing somewhere…??? do you have a description in case I see it? smile

    • stephen says:

      05:10pm | 15/03/11

      Try him again dear.
      He missed the first three and got the solution to the fourth, (which my flatmate’s daughter resolved at 9 am).
      Otherwise ring marK.

    • the pieman says:

      12:15pm | 15/03/11

      The Aussie Brainwash Commision made a fantastic discovery; if you go over to the marxist Uni up the road and give the students a free meal; and then sit then in an audience, being giggled and patronised by the school girl PM- they found that they young misdirected and impressionable will clap on cue.

      Can anyone recall the Hitler youth?

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    • Joel B1 says:

      03:24pm | 15/03/11

      Nice point. But I don’t think there was much giggling in the Hitler youth.

      PS L Kippist, how about putting your glaring ads for Zeta somewhere else? It really makes my comment look small and insignificant. (which it might be but anyway…)

    • Mike says:

      12:48pm | 15/03/11

      Is everyone else loving the clip of beast master Casey laying the smack down on a bully?? lol where are the news articles!!!!!!

      Reply

    • Ringo says:

      01:43pm | 15/03/11

      Trying to convince my mum today that it’s perfectly safe for me to go to Osaka/Kyoto next week on holiday.  Not going well.  Damn fear mongering headlines. My girlfriend’s mum is worried we’re going to come back sterile!

      We were planning on going as far north as Tokyo for a day or two, but I guess we might have to reschedule those few days in a worst case situation.  Which is a shame, I was really hoping to go to the Ghibli museum in Mitaka.

      I’m pretty sure the most dangerous stage of this whole journey will be driving from Townsville to Cairns to catch the flight.  The Bruce highway at the end of a big wet season can really challenge your idea of when a pothole should actually be classified as a crater!

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    • Reg says:

      02:58pm | 15/03/11

      Easy, make a substantial deposit in a sperm bank, have the snip and if you don’t come back your mum came auction the deposit and have little half-youse to remember you by. Good plan?

      Don’t forget to fasten your seat-belt. Another hint, never hide under the table or on the stairs. Near the outer wall or beside the bed is best.

    • fairsfair says:

      03:00pm | 15/03/11

      wait until you encounter the Cairns drivers… *cue Psycho music*

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      03:11pm | 15/03/11

      Gillard spoke well but that was about it. She is indeed a consummate politician & has learnt her craft well for she skirted every single question she could by drifting off into a waffle only politicians are capable of: “Say a lot but say nothing”.
      She doesn’t seem to get it with the issue of her Carbon Tax. She has simply announced that we are to have one. End of story. No details, no costs nothing.
      She now says that an ETS was part of the ALP’s Policy prior to the August 2010 Election. Sorry, but I must have missed that announcement - just as all the bewildered looks on their faces betrayed when she mentioned it on Q&A last night!
      I will give her the benefit of the doubt and will ask this:
      Rather than introduce a Carbon Tax - which she swore repeatedly would never be introduced by any government she led- why not introduce an ETS??
      That is what she said last night she & the ALP promised prior to the election.
      Why did she force Kevin Rudd to abandon their Carbon Price Reduction Scheme (CPRS) & ETS?
      Other than the fact that she is doing exactly as those stand-over merchants the Australian Greens have told her to, what has changed to make the introduction of this Carbon Price so imperative?
      She waffled on about us being big polluters. Yes, on a per capita basis we are..But..on the world stage even her own not-so-expert-experts tell us Australia produces something like 0.01% of all the CO2 produced in the world!. Who is producing the remaining 99.99% & what are they doing about it? It would seem nothing.
      This whole exercise by Gillard appears to be nothing more than a sop to the Greens & those she relies on to keep her in office.

      Reply

    • The Badger says:

      03:11pm | 15/03/11

      Well,
      We finally have a no-fly zone in effect.
      No, it’ s not in Libya

      The Japanese have set up a no-fly zone for a 30km-radius over the Fukushima nuclear plant

      Reply

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