It’s that time of year again - list time! Yesterday we had the annual ‘most unusual baby names’ list. There are some crackers on there.

I will call her Burger. Pic: AFP

Cobain’s pretty cool, in a 90s kind of way… then there’s Joshitha. For a girl. Way to let her know you were hoping for a boy…

What’s your favourite? Oh, and bonus points to first person who claims they actually know a L-A. What else is on your mind?

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    • Mat says:

      04:33am | 14/12/12

      L-A = La-dash-a.  Or, as some of my friends prefer, La-hyphen-a.  Glorious.

    • Lady Shoog says:

      04:44am | 14/12/12

      Shoog.

    • TimB says:

      05:25am | 14/12/12

      Whoever gets landed with the name ‘Leeloo’must incorporate the terms ‘Multipass’ and ‘Big bada boom’ into their vocabulary for regular usage, or else life is wasted on them.

    • Chris L says:

      08:45am | 14/12/12

      And must walk around in nothing but a couple of bandages.

    • PsychoHyena says:

      09:10am | 14/12/12

      @TimB, dammit never had a daughter so no Leeloo here, though I heartily endorse this. Let’s just hope that real Leeloo doesn’t have to go through the same hell as fictional Leeloo.

    • Mouse says:

      09:13am | 14/12/12

      GOD! I hope they are really BIG bandages ChrisL!!  lol :o)

    • Chris L says:

      09:31am | 14/12/12

      @Mouse - I think the ones in the movie did the job just fine.

    • PsychoHyena says:

      10:02am | 14/12/12

      @ChrisL yeah but Milla/Leeloo isn’t very pronounced in that area…

    • Anubis says:

      02:43pm | 14/12/12

      But you have to admire her skills with zombies, if nothing else

    • Chris L says:

      03:51pm | 14/12/12

      I still admire her everything, even if it isn’t very pronounced.

    • Super D says:

      05:46am | 14/12/12

      I don’t know an LA but I do know a JD.

    • hammy says:

      05:54am | 14/12/12

      2DayFM try to make themselves the victims,no surprise there.  One would think it would be better to keep your head down.

    • Kev says:

      12:07pm | 14/12/12

      The most interesting and perhaps expected aspect of this, is how those in the media immediately started by firing off articles making excuses for these presenters and denouncing the response from the public.

      A reasonable person can’t be expected to know the mental state of everyone they come across but then again you could easily argue that most people don’t have the power and audience that a radio presenter has. A prank call made by some school kids won’t affect many and at most will annoy those who are targeted. A prank call made on radio is a different kettle of fish and you have no idea how someone would react to being the butt of a joke that has international coverage.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if the outrage is due to the public being fed up with 2DayFM and the stunts that their presenters keep pulling. I’m curious as to whether the ACMA are going to punish them or just slap them on the wrist. If we’ve learned anything it’s that the media are incapable at policing their own behaviour and need some to do it for them.

    • gobsmack says:

      05:55am | 14/12/12

      “Tory” is a strange name for a girl.

      Mind you, people thought my parents were strange naming me “gobsmack”.

    • sunny says:

      07:45am | 14/12/12

      Your folks must have been ‘gobsmacked’ when they got their first look at you ..“Geez doc are you sure they’re supposed to look like that?!”

    • Chris L says:

      08:02am | 14/12/12

      10 points to Sunny!

      5 to Gobsmack for the set up.

    • Smoke Crack - Worship Satan says:

      08:05am | 14/12/12

      I think my straight, born again Christian parents were listening to too much Johnny Cash at the time.

      Could have been worse.

      Could have been Sue….

    • Michael says:

      08:09am | 14/12/12

      Tory could be short for Victoria, i’d go for Tory before Vicky myself.

    • Philosopher says:

      08:13am | 14/12/12

      you think you suffered; I was beaten every day in school for being named Philosopher (last name is Wiseman). Apparently it’s ‘pretentious’? Now I just say ‘call me Phil’.

    • Dash says:

      08:33am | 14/12/12

      I’d go for Tory too! Have you seen her on the telly? Pfwah!

    • sunny says:

      09:32am | 14/12/12

      Philosopher - you must have been a blast when everyone was playing super heroes.
      “What’s your super power?” the kid with laser beam vision asks you.
      “I am at one with Tao” Philosopher replies.
      “Well I can slowly melt this ice block with my laser vision” says Laser Beam Kid.
      “Ah, has the ice block melted or has it transitioned to a higher plane?” says Philosopher.
      “I like planes” says Laser Beam kid.

    • Philosopher says:

      10:20am | 14/12/12

      sunny: I just used those instances to retreat further into my shell. Thanks for reminding me, the dreadful shakes are starting again… not OK.

    • hammy says:

      11:01am | 14/12/12

      Will The Punch moderator please explain why I am unable to tell sunny I appreciated her joke yesterday?  Like how does that qualify as censored material?

    • Mouse says:

      11:43am | 14/12/12

      hammy, don’t fret too much, mine go missing all the time and I am hardly one to say much that would get censored! lol
      I reckon they just delete blocks of them when they start to build up.  I cannot imagine who has to sort through all our posts but I am sure that is not the only thing they have to do. If it’s a great post, copy it as a doc before you send it so, if your post goes missing, just copy it back to the Punch!!  (I wish I could remember to do that!!) 
      Never give up, hammy!!  LOL :o)

    • sunny says:

      11:45am | 14/12/12

      hammy - I’m a him not a her (how embarrassment!). I gotta admit though I always wondered what I’d look like in a mini-skirt, but with my penchant for going commando I’d probs get arrested smile

      Glad you liked the joke ..‘pulled a hammy’ was some of my best work smile On censorship, I’ve had a lot of innocuous posts not come through, as has everybody. I don’t think it’s a case of the mods having it in for you - probably more like software that does an advance scan to lighten the work load of the mods.

    • Gregg says:

      05:56am | 14/12/12

      I imagine Jo-shit-ha could be in for a lot of pooey playground english in her younger years.

      Meanwhile we are off on more solar trikes with training wheels it seems.
      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-13/government-boosts-solar-research-by-83m/4425824

      Like first of all, do we really think Australian Universities can do much more than sneeze with $83M and the good thing is the government is not throwing more at such a wasteful exercise.
      There are no end of manufacturers abroad who are likely pouring hundreds of millions$$$ if not billions into PV development to claim the latest and greatest designs and then as for aiming mirrors at water towers or tubes to heat salt baths, there has also been a number of developments in that direction for more than quite a few years, all with limited success.

      The answer may not necessarily be blowing in the wind either but it is just as surely that solar anything will never be anything but a fringe generator with limited benefits and quite a few problems for the many who will be paying for the subsidies

      And then at the end of the day, even with a remarkable research brakthrough if it came, where do you reckon any manufacturing would occur!

      Perhaps this move could be called Laboring Joshityes.

    • Tim says:

      07:08am | 14/12/12

      Yeah,
      Who cares about doing scientific research, it will never produce anything.

      I mean look at that CSIRO? What have they done for me lately?

      We should just invest in mining, mining and more mining. It will set our country up forever…..forever. what could go wrong?

    • TimB says:

      07:59am | 14/12/12

      I have no objection to the research being done, as long as we don’t pin all our hopes to it before we even see results.

      The prevailing attitude (amongst the green-inclined) seems to be that some amzing breakthrough for Solar and Wind is just around the corner, so we should start moving away from coal *right now* to the inefficient versions of these technologies and work out the rest of the details later.

      It’s a stupid way of doing things IMO and one of my big oppositions to the carbon tax. There’s no point encouraging people to move to alternatives if the alternatives on offer are terrible.

      Make the alternatives better first and people will shift naturally without the need for a stupid tax.

      Or y’know, go with a proven technology such as nuclear and end this entire debate right now.

    • Super D says:

      08:22am | 14/12/12

      As soon as they come up with cheap, reliable renewable energy we’ll switch in a second. We don’t use coal because we like rigging stuff up anymore than Africans like collecting dung for their fires. But it has to be cheap in its own right, not by a contrived mechanism to make other energy sources more expensive. I wish every dollar wasted on awareness propaganda was pumped into research.

    • Super D says:

      08:20am | 14/12/12

      As soon as they come up with cheap, reliable renewable energy we’ll switch in a second. We don’t use coal because we like rigging stuff up anymore than Africans like collecting dung for their fires. But it has to be cheap in its own right, not by a contrived mechanism to make other energy sources more expensive. I wish every dollar wasted on awareness propaganda was pumped into research.

    • sunny says:

      08:49am | 14/12/12

      Gregg - After the success of UNSW who improved the efficiency of single crystalline solar cells by about 5% (a huge improvement) I reckon it’s a good investment. And Suntech (China) made a few billion off of that improvement, which would have been nicer had an Aussie company picked up the ball and run with it.

      TimB - “as long as we don’t pin all our hopes to it before we even see results”

      The results are already there in the steady reduction of price per watt that has been occurring for some time now and will continue to do so.

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-05/solar-energy-costs-may-already-rival-coal-spurring-installation-boom.html

      “The prevailing attitude (amongst the green-inclined) seems to be that some amzing breakthrough for Solar and Wind is just around the corner”

      This is not the case. Efficiency improvement to tech is slow requiring huge investment in R&D (far more than the government can fund), and as the efficiency and manufacturing process improves (in this case as the price per watt to the market decreases) the cost to further improve the efficiency (through R&D) increases.

      “Make the alternatives better first and people will shift naturally without the need for a stupid tax.”

      The alternatives will eventually be better with or without the carbon tax. Unfortunately there is a requirement for this to happen faster than normal market processes would deliver, hence the carbon tax to accelerate the process.

      “Or y’know, go with a proven technology such as nuclear”

      No objections from me, but how are you going to convince the electorate?

    • PsychoHyena says:

      10:11am | 14/12/12

      @TimB, nuclear is fine, but you also need to consider the potential of nuclear. You are creating an environment with nuclear where you balance a highly volatile substance on a knifes edge.

      It makes sense to use nuclear given that we have a large supply of radioactive resources and it is clean… when it doesn’t fail. That’s the problem, the fallout from a nuclear reactor blowing is far greater than other power sources, the only way to reduce the impact is placing it in a low-population area. Do you then spend up to buy out people in the area (whose property prices are going to fall if a reactor is built nearby)?

    • TimB says:

      10:17am | 14/12/12

      Re your first to points, they may be getting cheaper, but they’re not cheap enough yet.

      Which leads into your next point:

      ‘The alternatives will eventually be better with or without the carbon tax. Unfortunately there is a requirement for this to happen faster than normal market processes would deliver, hence the carbon tax to accelerate the process.’

      No. This is wrong. Whether we accelerate the process here or not, it won’t make an iota of difference overall. Our carbon tax is useless symbolism. That costs.

      On nuclear:

      ‘No objections from me, but how are you going to convince the electorate? ‘

      Well if the Greens and the ALP stop trying to *scare* the electorate everytime the issue is raised, at least half the battle will be won.

      Follow that up with a bipartisan info campaign to educate on the benefits, and put events like Fukushima and Chernobyl into the proper context.

      Unfortunately I don’t think you’ll ever get the Greens on board, which means we’re relying on the ALP to grow up and get over their anti-nuclear paranoia. Some of them are there (I believe Martin Ferguson is in favour of nuclear). The others just need to get on board instead of holding onto something they can beat the Coalition around the head with like they did in ‘04)

    • TimB says:

      10:56am | 14/12/12

      @ Psycho Hyena, considering the Greens believe the world will end if we don’t wean ourself off of nasty carbon, I would think the very (tiny) risk of an incident would seen to be worth it.

    • sunny says:

      11:01am | 14/12/12

      TimB - “Re your first to points, they may be getting cheaper, but they’re not cheap enough yet.”

      The point is that renewables are the only form of energy getting consistently cheaper, doesn’t this provide a clue as to which form of energy is the best bet for the future in terms of the hip pocket (putting all other advantages aside)?

      “Our carbon tax is useless symbolism. That costs.”

      There may be an element of symbolism in the carbon tax but it is not useless. In fact it is quite effective. And Tony Abbott’s scare campaign of the carbon tax has probably made it all the more effective.

      Re nuclear:
      “Well if the Greens and the ALP stop trying to *scare* the electorate everytime the issue is raised, at least half the battle will be won.”

      Don’t try to fob it off onto Labor and the Greens. First it must have some advocates sitting in parliament. Who in the Coalition publicly advocates nuclear energy? And I’m not talking about MPs who ‘call for a discussion’, I’m talking about real advocates.

    • TimB says:

      03:05pm | 14/12/12

      ‘Who in the Coalition publicly advocates nuclear energy?’

      John Howard did. And he was promptly slammed by the ALP under Latham for doing so. Is it any wonder the rest of them are reluctant to try again?

      So yeah I absolutely will put this on Labor and the Greens. They’ve created the environment where the other side are hesitant to raise the issue. So they’re the ones who need to show they’re receptive to the idea before the Coalition will bother trying again.

    • sunny says:

      04:42pm | 14/12/12

      “So yeah I absolutely will put this on Labor and the Greens. They’ve created the environment where the other side are hesitant to raise the issue”

      If there are members of the Coalition who strongly believe in nuclear energy, and they have any backbone, then they will stand up for it - advocate it - the way that Labor has advocated carbon pricing in the face of a hostile Opposition and the hostile environment the Opposition has created. It’s called political will, and the public respects leaders and parties who have it. If they’re going to wilt at the slightest hint of difficulty (Latham, really?) then what good are they.

    • ronny jonny says:

      07:08am | 14/12/12

      Julias’ National Health reforms are failing, what a surprise. Targets won’t be met. Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck, another fine mess…

    • PJ says:

      12:23pm | 14/12/12

      The Australian reports:

      “THE world’s premier economic think tank has criticised Australia’s tax system and macroeconomic policies, piling further pressure on timid state and federal governments to tackle controversial reforms.

      In its biennial economic update for Australia, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) weighed into Australia?s tax reform debate today, calling on the Labor government to slash corporate tax and broaden the base of the GST to improve economic efficiency and encourage investment.”

    • Economist says:

      01:01pm | 14/12/12

      PJ love your spin and the Australian newspapers for that matter. The report was overwhelmingly positive of the Australian economy. Highlights include expanding the mining tax, carbon tax has potential, housing sector robust, no need for further IR reform, plenty of flexibility to manage a further crisis.

      The Australian newspaper has gone from a must read to absolute trash since 2003. This type of reporting does them a disservice and highlights their problems with providing any reasonable assessment.

    • PJ says:

      04:32pm | 14/12/12

      Economist

      OF course you’d say that.

      Care to trash the NAB Report that found Business LEaders had no confidence in this Government and the way the economy was being run?

    • ronny jonny says:

      07:10am | 14/12/12

      I reckon Julia would be a bit rare at the moment.

    • hammy says:

      09:39am | 14/12/12

      Not in the Communist Party.

    • sunny says:

      07:42am | 14/12/12

      It was only a matter of time until someone called their kid California. Won’t be too long before we see Arkansas ..who will throughout his/her life be always correcting the pronunciation “Um it’s actually pronounced Arkansaw - look just call me Arky”

    • iansand says:

      08:05am | 14/12/12

      I’m hanging out for Connecticut or Massachusetts.  Oregon would be nice - he (or she) could be as thick as two short planks.  Is that expression universal, or confined to my family?

    • Smoke Crack - Worship Satan says:

      08:08am | 14/12/12

      Why do they pronounce Kansas as Cans-Ass, but Ar-Kansas as Arken-Saw?

    • Philosopher says:

      08:27am | 14/12/12

      iansand, ‘thick as two short planks’... the adjective ‘short’ is actually superfluous to the intended meaning of this saying, as one could equally substitute ‘long’ or ‘broad’ or even ‘white’ without changing the meaning. I hope it is confined within your family.

    • iansand says:

      08:47am | 14/12/12

      Clearly you have not yet dreamt of exergasia in your philosophy.

    • sunny says:

      09:11am | 14/12/12

      iansand - the neighbours will be in hysterics every time little Connecticut’s and Massachusetts’s mum calls out for them across the neighbourhood to come home for dinner.

      Smoke Crack - it’s because they chew a lot of tobacco and that’s the way the sounds comes out.

    • iansand says:

      09:43am | 14/12/12

      This is silly - 5 minutes’ research into the origins of Kansas and Arkansas into the black hole.

      Kansas is an actual Sioux word, apparently, while Arkansas is a French bastardisation of a completely different word.

    • gobsmack says:

      09:58am | 14/12/12

      What about naming them after some local states?

      “New South Wales” has a nice ring about it.

    • Philosopher says:

      10:12am | 14/12/12

      ‘exergasia’
      I love it! OK, you win by introducing a great new word into my vocabulary.

    • iansand says:

      10:34am | 14/12/12

      You, of course, picked up the Hamlet reference.

    • Philosopher says:

      10:43am | 14/12/12

      duh, Horatio.

    • hammy says:

      11:09am | 14/12/12

      Sydney, Victoria…

    • Chris L says:

      11:24am | 14/12/12

      I rather like Adelaide as a name. Sounds old-fashiony.

    • iansand says:

      11:30am | 14/12/12

      hammy - A long time ago, before you were born, there was a Queen named Victoria.  She was Queen before god invented Victoria the state, but the name of the state is not a coincidence.

    • Smoke Crack - Worship Satan says:

      11:56am | 14/12/12

      My next daughter will be called Salem.

      If it’s a boy - Martha’s Vineyard. Or… maybe Joisey, as in New Jersey.

    • gobsmack says:

      12:56pm | 14/12/12

      Some old songs take on a new meaning:

      “California, here I come…”

      “Nothing could be finer
      than to be in Carolina
      in the morning…”

    • Philosopher says:

      01:02pm | 14/12/12

      @Smoke Crack - if your future daughter has a whole bunch of stuff, will it be known as Salem’s Lot? smile

    • Mouse says:

      04:17pm | 14/12/12

      How about Kyrgyzstan? Maybe Stan for short!  xo)

    • fml says:

      07:57am | 14/12/12

      Work Christmas party today. I’m going to get ferschnicken!

    • Mouse says:

      08:29am | 14/12/12

      fml, have fun, catch a cab home and try not to get too ferschickened! At least you will have the weekend to get over it!  YAAY   lol ;o)

    • gobsmack says:

      08:52am | 14/12/12

      Don’t forget to insult the boss.  He/she will respect you more for it.  Trust me.

    • Chris L says:

      09:29am | 14/12/12

      Take stock of which workmates you wouldn’t want to hit on even when drunk. Do it now while you’re still sober.

    • fml says:

      09:43am | 14/12/12

      Thanks mouse!

      All really good advice,

      Maybe I should get drunk with the boss, then insult/hit on them all at the same time. That way it will leave more time for drinking. But I have many bosses and I may have to spread myself rather thin…

    • Philosopher says:

      10:24am | 14/12/12

      Chris L: that would take me all of about 1 millisecond, unfortunately.

    • Chris L says:

      10:42am | 14/12/12

      So Phil, are you saying there’s too many you’d want to hit or too few?

    • Philosopher says:

      11:01am | 14/12/12

      The two women in my workplace barely qualify as female. See, I can say that because I use a pseudonym. It’s not just about Malcolm Farr.

    • Mouse says:

      11:36am | 14/12/12

      fml,  so as not to interfere with the drinking time, get all your bosses, etc, together as soon as you get there, insult them and hit on them all at the same time - nobody gets left out then you see so no hurt feelings - then hit the bar. Job done, drinking time now can be uninterrupted!
      Sometimes you just have to plan ahead!!  Enjoy!!!  lol :o)

      Philosopher,  your story made me sad, so I am sending you a big colour poster that you can look at to make you happy at work. This one comes with a pencil so you can join the dots. Do you prefer blonds or brunettes ( I am assuming redheads are not to be considered???)  :o)

    • Philosopher says:

      12:09pm | 14/12/12

      Mouse, you are one lovely, giving lady! Brunettes please, I like redheads although being one myself I could never go out with one, to many strange looks and whispers about incest and all that.

    • PJ says:

      04:39pm | 14/12/12

      fml…... going out for an Indian after you’ve have skinful?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdo79znnHl8

      The Socialist view of the positives of a multicultural society, minimal waged workers working long hours in restaurants to provide you cheap curries when your plastered.

    • ibast says:

      08:03am | 14/12/12

      Gotta love the Germans.  There is a list and you will use it.

    • Philosopher says:

      08:16am | 14/12/12

      they are only following orders, ibast.

    • TheRealDave says:

      08:38am | 14/12/12

      At leas tthey’ll be efficient and on-time….

    • Smoke Crack - Worship Satan says:

      10:26am | 14/12/12

      Gotta love German porn too!

    • ibast says:

      12:53pm | 14/12/12

      Actually Dave they are surprisingly bureaucratic.  consistently so, but still bureaucratic.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      08:39am | 14/12/12

      Change the record.
      I’ve been busy with work leading up to xmas so haven’t had the time to post much, but have read the comments on the Open Thread after closing.
      The Political scene on the Punch lately seems to me is all about “my view” is the right one… It seems Punchers, (and I’ll name a few… PJ(Babylon), Dash, iansand , Tim, TimB and more) all have their own views, which going by them are the only relevant views, and that they post, and post, and post as if the more they post the more relevance it will have.
      I’m sorry guys but it doesn’t, to go on and on about one subject is both tedious, and boring, and although it generates comments is so repetitive that most (me included) will just scroll thru’ them treating them as “Ho-hum that again”, and you then complain about comments not being posted, well maybe the Mods get sick off reading the same crap over and over (I know I do and I’m not moderating).
      To say Gillard wrecked marriages is just wrong as it takes 2 to tango. To accuse Gillard of fraud re the AWU scandal before it’s investigated is wrong. For Gillard to accuse Abbott of (misogyny in Parliament) was also wrong as she won’t repeat the comments outside off Parliamentary privilege. Let’s wait and see any wrong doing investigated by the the authorities before making judgment on all claims, then, and only then can one or the other say NahNahNahNah.
      There are others on this Forum that although they will comment (better name them too, TheRealDave, sunny, Philosopher, and more) on Political subjects, can still see the relevance off other postings and add to that thread.

    • iansand says:

      09:18am | 14/12/12

      Thank you for your kind advice.  I will teat it with the seriousness it deserves, and ignore it.

    • Chris L says:

      09:37am | 14/12/12

      Fully agree Pa_Kelvin. I enjoy a good political argument (obviously) but there’s only so many times one needs to make the same statement and have it refuted by the same responses.

      Respect for being able to see the flaws on both sides.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      09:40am | 14/12/12

      oops I didn’t copy and past all of my rant.
      I’ve said before that I follow the Coalition, but my opinions and views are mine, and not something that I would try to ram home day after day….  Ad nauseam, to the extent that I start sounding like a parrot.
      If this Parliament (notice I said Parliament, and not Government) was a Corporation the share-holders would have by now sacked the lot off them and bought in a new board, but then no-body would have anything to gripe about, unless they actually had any thoughts other than Gillard’s a ……..???, or Abbott’s a ……??? Labor this, Liberal that..
      Maybe what we need is a combination of Hawke in his early years of PM, with Howard in the middle years of PM…. Let’s call it Laberal
      Sad really………..
      *end rant*

    • Philosopher says:

      09:44am | 14/12/12

      thanks pa_kelvin. I think the entertainment value of posts is more important than force-feeding one’s opinion to the world. It’s not as if this is a United Nations forum, after all.

    • Philosopher says:

      10:04am | 14/12/12

      I’m forced to keep my posts short and sharp, because I have to assume they will not get through the Immoderator; why bother wasting time on longer comments?

    • Smoke Crack - Worship Satan says:

      10:22am | 14/12/12

      Bah!

      Lest we forget “Ye Olde Guard” Punchers!

      I’ve been on here for just over 2 years, seen ‘em come, watched ‘em go, and for the life of me 99% of the time, for every (Insert favorite MRE name here), there’s another (insert favourite Feminazi name here) waiting in the other corner of the ring. And don’t even get me started on the single issue people who only ever come out to shit on (insert single issue topic here).

      I will admit to missing a couple of folks who were here when Erick got banned and chose to leave in protest, but, ah shit, it’s just an open public forum where people come to try & prove that their “Open Minds” need to be “closed for repairs”.

      Change the record?

      How about some of us would maybe be better off and go learn to play an instrument?

    • PsychoHyena says:

      12:38pm | 14/12/12

      @pa I agree, and if people are just copying and pasting the same argument day after day, why not just link through to the original? I’m sure there’s some hashtaggery that could be used to allow it.

    • Tim says:

      01:44pm | 14/12/12

      Pa Kelvin,
      I think you have to separate the people who do cut and paste their arguments from day to day (won’t mention names by Babbling On) from those who are having discussions about the political issues of the day.

      Also I think you’re confusing relevancy for the worth of an opinion among some posters.

      My comments are nearly always relevant whether you agree with my opinion or not.

      I’d prefer if the open thread was all about vice and debauchery but that’s just me.

    • Chris L says:

      01:47pm | 14/12/12

      @Smoke Crack - Not everyone has left voluntarily. Against The Man was banned for impersonating fellow Punchers and not even being funny about it. Dirty pool!

      I do think they were heavy handed with Erick.

    • DJ says:

      01:45pm | 14/12/12

      maybe we could have a couple of set posts go into each thread and save everyone the time

    • AJ in Perth says:

      02:41pm | 14/12/12

      pa_K

      you’ve just reduced the punch’s comments by 99.571% ...  but don’t fear, the quality of the remaining comments will make up for it (or not?!)  :o)

      and if this is a wish list ... I just wish that people would realise that posts get lost all the time, it’s not personal/agenda driven/whatever or that important - if it had been censored, you’d receive an e-mail from the punch team to that affect

      I bet the moderators won’t post this though!  :o)

    • Anubis says:

      02:55pm | 14/12/12

      For once I agree with @ Tim - what we need is more Vice and Debauchery (the capitals were intentional)

    • TimB says:

      03:40pm | 14/12/12

      To be fair, if a story is topical- i.e. you get multiple articles on the same topic, of course comments from regular Punchers on said topic are going to be pretty similar.

      And most of the people you name, including myself, absolutely post about other topics, even if you haven’t been paying attention. Dash has his guitars for starters. As for myself I’ve enjoyed many a discussion with the others about gaming, sci-fi topics or Rugby League.

      Perhaps you just need to skip over the political stuff and focus on the rest. You’d be much happier.

    • TheRealDave says:

      03:44pm | 14/12/12

      I don’t mind the political discussions and I’ll happily wade in…its just the rusted on diehards that shit me with their same old same old every single bloody day no matter how irrelevant it is to the article being discussed…..

      ..I mean really - we get it! You don’t like Julia Gillard or the Labor Party and you are pissed off that your chosen man didn’t get the PM’s gig he was born to have. We get it. Really.

      Calling for new elections every 5 minutes because you didn’t get your own way got boring after a few weeks, more so after a few months and now nearly 3 years later you’re jsut an object of pity and scorn. Nor does it help your popularity with the viewers. Screaming fraud over and over again also doesn’t make it true without any actual evidence - no matter how much you repeat it it irrelevant threads. And repeating the same old technological incorrect and completely made up bollocks isn’t going to impress anyone when it comes to the NBN - but I am however impressed how they cling to such dogged beliefs despite being proven categorically and fundamentally wrong every single time.

      And now, like a Christams gift I am enjoying the antics of those exact same peopel who are now pretending that any LNP member or staffer had anythign to do with James Ashby bringing charges on the Speaker of the House 5 minutes after he defected for the gig. The mental gymanistics and contortions and keeping me in giggles all day long and I expect to see it continue into the new year.

      But Life isn’t ALL about politics - I feel sad for those people who have nothigng else to contribute. This is supposed to be a ‘Discussion’ site. For as much as I may be considered as ‘not a fan’ of News Limited - the staff here do bring a pretty wide variety of topics here for ALL OF US to discuss and there is a great bunch of people here, mostly wink I enjoy hearing other opinions - no matter how wrong they are, about a wide variety of things, and hear about a wide variety of life experiences I have no idea about. I enjoy it a lot.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      05:29pm | 14/12/12

      @The Real Dave- “But Life isn’t ALL about politics”.... Wash your mouth out with soap…..

    • pa_kelvin says:

      06:01pm | 14/12/12

      The whole point of my post was that posts on some threads are the same ol’, same ol’… It’s the same arguments being rehashed with a *slightly* different theme in the he said/she said.
      I meant no offence to any-body by naming names, but it would have been pointless to not do that.
      I have been reading posts on this site for about 18 mths and been posting for less than a year and fully understand and accept that there are lots of posters with differing opinions and right/left views, but those views tend to become repetitious when you read a post that you read the day ,or week before.
      I originally wanted to join this forum after reading some off the above mentioned thinking to myself “their all idiots .. They don’t know what they’re talking about”, but after my first post decided that that wasn’t the way for me…
      I do enjoy posting and I do read every comment even if it’s at 9pm of an evening, but for me I’ll stick to the less political and stay with the general. Although I might throw in the odd political comment just to keep you guys on your toes..
      iansand   I hope you meant *treat* and not *teat* as your post has a whole different meaning otherwise…. ?

    • Sandra says:

      10:35am | 14/12/12

      Why do you need to be able to buy alcohol in a supermarket? Plenty of places (often next door to the supermarket) where it is available.

    • Chris L says:

      10:39am | 14/12/12

      Hell to the yeah!

      Mind you, I’ll probably keep using my local bottle shop since I have them so well trained they just hand my the bottle as I walk in.

    • SimpleSimon says:

      11:33am | 14/12/12

      I’ve worked in supermarkets that sell alcohol (in my younger days), and it’s a massive pain in the arse. Even if they ease the law, supermarkets would be wise to not put alcohol in the main part of the store, as the hassle it introduces just isn’t worth it.

    • Mouse says:

      11:51am | 14/12/12

      WHAT??? I am moving back to Qld!  I wonder if you can get flybuys or Qantas points with purchase?  LOL :o)

    • Bear says:

      11:52am | 14/12/12

      Qld has always been decades behind and it has nothing to do with the last 10 years of Labor.

    • Chris L says:

      01:43pm | 14/12/12

      @Mouse - When you get here I’ve got a place you can lay your head wink

    • Kev says:

      01:51pm | 14/12/12

      Sandra’s right, why do you need to be able to buy alcohol from the supermarket? Oh that’s right I forgot, we’re a nation of drunkards who look for any excuse to drink and then defend it by saying “I can handle my drink, it’s the minority who can’t who are ruining it for the rest of us”. Why do you need to have a drink every time you’re out with friends or colleagues? Are you that socially inept?

    • Mouse says:

      03:14pm | 14/12/12

      Fantastic ChrisL, I knew I could count on you!  lol ;o)

    • hammy says:

      11:25am | 14/12/12

      I’m out the censors here are too retarded for words.  Enjoy your lefty swill.

    • Smoke Crack - Worship Satan says:

      01:18pm | 14/12/12

      See ya hammy!

      See, I told ya.

      Seen ‘em come.

      Watched ‘em go…...

      At this rate, it’s gunna be Zeta, marley, gobsmack, P Darvio, a couple of Tims, James & Daves, an Adam or 2, i hate pies and SydneyGirl left by the end of the year.

      Oh, and me. Guess I’ll stick around for another few minutes. Ya never know around here.

      I miss people called John (insert a few letters) the most. There’s been a couple of tinfoil Johns on here who made me laugh for a bit.

      eeehhh…..

    • Knemon says:

      11:29am | 14/12/12

      My dear old mother used to tell me she worked for a Mr S H Bridge, you guessed it, his initials stood for Sidney Harbour…poor bloke.

    • Philosopher says:

      02:00pm | 14/12/12

      when he got angry, was he known as Cross Sidney Harbour Bridge?

    • Liberal lover says:

      11:41am | 14/12/12

      I knew nothing. I had no specific knowledge. Here’s a shit sandwich, there is no Shit in it. That’s not shit. It smells and tastes like it and came out of animal but I’m telling you it’s not!

    • Knemon says:

      12:49pm | 14/12/12

      “Questioned about his own knowledge of the case being filed in the court, Mr Abbott today said: “I had no specific knowledge of any of the details of the allegations against Mr Slipper until I read about them on the Saturday morning when they were in the paper.”

      “On the morning that the allegations were revealed in the media, Mr Abbott released a statement at 9:16am demanding the Prime Minister remove Mr Slipper from the Speaker’s chair.”

      “However, the time stamp attached to the statement appears to show the document was created at 11:08pm the night before.”

      “Mr Abbott’s office is adamant the document was not created until the Saturday morning, and believes a computer glitch is behind the apparent discrepancy.”

      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-14/abbott-denies-slipper-conspiracy/4427424

      It definitely smells.

    • bun says:

      01:44pm | 14/12/12

      Unless that computer was in another country, that is the worst excuse they could have come up with. No one is going to buy that.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      01:57pm | 14/12/12

      @Knemon- it must be a “computer glitch”, we all know politicians don’t lie…..

    • Tim says:

      02:07pm | 14/12/12

      Computer Glich?

      LOL.

      What’s next, the dog ate my policies?

    • Liberal liver says:

      03:24pm | 14/12/12

      Word has a mind of it’s own and often adds erroneous time stamps. Come on people it can be true if you imagine it!

    • TheRealDave says:

      03:47pm | 14/12/12

      He didn’t lie because it ‘wasn’t written down’ and said ‘in the heat of battle’....and it was only a ‘Non-Core’ ‘Aspiration’.....and if you don’t like it - Shit Happens!

      And in over15 years in IT I am yet to see a document change its creation date or any competant IT staff have computers on a domain not time synced with at least valid 1 time source/NTP server.

      smile

    • Phil says:

      04:09pm | 14/12/12

      The other questions then are that, once he became aware [from the newspaper—really??], what enquiries did he make with his colleagues about what the “evidence” was; what they planned to do about it; had they “covered their bases”—or arses;  and was he confident in “leading” a party that used this approach?

      What enquiries did TA make?  “No specific knowledge” before—what about after it came out.  How often and from whom was he updated?  If he did not make enquiries then that also raises questions.

      There was a “conspiracy” to use the court to bring down the government and nobody thinks this is a big deal or that TA has questions to answer?

    • pa_kelvin says:

      12:31pm | 14/12/12

      Hey Mouse… Is it this Monday for your op???
      ma_k and I will be thinking of you and hope all go’s well.
      Dont forget to take your laptop to Punch while your recuperating..
      Smiley faces for Mouse… smile smile smile

    • Baloo says:

      01:16pm | 14/12/12

      I feel this kinds of smiley face would have been appropriate - :o)

    • Mouse says:

      02:02pm | 14/12/12

      Yep pa_k, am going to the big bad city on Tues, op Wed, home Sat (?) depending on how I go after.  I will be fine!  ;o)
      Thanks for the wishes from you both. ;o)  I am taking my portable DVD player but not computer. Doc has laughingly said that a break will do me good. I tried to explain about Punch DTs but apparently he has drugs that will help me with that!  Oooooh, I can’t wait! LOL :oD
      So I will be online Mon and back again Sat or Sun, with all the gory details!  (only joking moderator!!  :o/)
      Good to see you are back home and back on here, pretty quiet without you around!  lol :o)

      Aww Baloo, how sweet of you, you got my smiley face right too! You clever Puncher you.  LOL Thanks Baloo   ;o)

    • Philosopher says:

      03:37pm | 14/12/12

      good luck Mouse! lots of LOLs from me to speed your recovery.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      03:41pm | 14/12/12

      I get the Punch DT’s everytime I go away so I know what your saying.. smile

    • marley says:

      04:16pm | 14/12/12

      Mouse - didn’t realise you were due for an op.  All the best and a quick recovery.

    • David V. says:

      01:14pm | 14/12/12

      Japan goes to the polls this weekend, and a shift to the Right is a given. The fact that Japanese hawkishness and nationalism is returning is a good thing, because it will annoy the Left here greatly! Tee hee.

    • Chris L says:

      01:51pm | 14/12/12

      And here we get an insight into motivation.

      Not for king and country, but forking cuntry.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      02:00pm | 14/12/12

      China invading the airspace over the Senkaku Islands didn’t help…....

    • ibast says:

      03:20pm | 14/12/12

      A move to the right by the Japanese is a good thing?

      Maybe you need a history lesson.

    • Ben C says:

      04:01pm | 14/12/12

      @ Shane From Melbourne

      Japan trying to buy the Diaoyu Islands hasn’t helped either.

    • gobsmack says:

      02:08pm | 14/12/12

      Stop it.

      You’re giving me the shits.

    • Gordon says:

      01:41pm | 14/12/12

      My son graduated today…very proud of him. Hope everyone has a fabulous day.  May all your posts go unmoderated.

    • Mouse: says:

      03:14pm | 14/12/12

      Congrats Gordon.  What a fantastic nearly Christmas pesent! Wish him all the best for his future from me.  :o)

    • TheRealDave says:

      03:59pm | 14/12/12

      I don’t see a problem with the case to be honest.

      I know most people will start foaming about the mouth about ‘Welfare/Dole Bludgers’ etc but also some innocent people have been caught up in this because of silly mistakes they have made in the past. No everyone who has ever been pinged for this is a serial welfare cheat some may have made legitimate errors and miscalculations.

      What they are arguing is that law brought in recently is making it a Criminal Act - which is fair enough BUT they are backdating the law to make it apply as far back as 2000 and thats the bit thats not fair, which I agree with. So the argument is that its unconstitutional to now have people earmarked for life as criminals with criminal charges on them for something that while still an offence wasn’t actually a criminal offence at the time.

      If we couldn’t change or backdate laws on scumbags like David Hicks in regards to terrorism and actively joining an organisation our soldiers were fighting against why should we be allowed to for this?

      And no, I am not advocating Welfare Fraud, no suggesting it should be tolerated or rewarded. Not even slightly. I do indeed agree it should be a criminal offence - from now. I can’t agree to making it retrospective.

 

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