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    • Derrick says:

      05:58am | 14/01/13

      Julia Gillard gave us a heart felt touching vision for this election year by saying she will continue to deliver BIG things for Australia. She has really got guts this lady and she and she ALONE delivers for the working man !

      Tony Rabbott on the other hand continues to sledge her with his usual misogeny and doing stuff all for anybody but HIMSELF !

    • Rosie says:

      07:45am | 14/01/13

      You are so right - Julia Gillard not only the ‘iron lady’ but ‘gusty lady’ Gillard style. Has proved she can dictate many historic firsts for Australian politics since her accession to high office.

      Gillard surpasses the Labor PM she knifed. Kevin Rudd who in 2007 won with a clear mandate, the only trophy for Rudd against Gillard.

      The only ‘first’ the Opposition Leader is after from Gillard would be the ‘first’ most unpopular Opposition Leader to become PM.

      The whole political scene just gets more weird each day! Like with Angus Jones, anything goes! Election soon please!

    • Ben C says:

      08:12am | 14/01/13

      Has acotrel now adopted a new moniker?

      The only big thing that Gillard has delivered is the national debt, which the working man is expected to pay off. And as much as I’d like her to take the credit - or blame, as it may be - for this, Wayne Swan deserves a mention.

    • Stephen T says:

      08:26am | 14/01/13

      @Derrick:  Either an early troll or someone hasn’t taken their medication on time this morning.

    • BobC says:

      08:31am | 14/01/13

      “........Gillard gave us a heart felt touching vision for this election year by saying she will continue to deliver BIG things for Australia.” Sorry Derrick, but you must be one of the few Australians still listening….let alone believing!!

    • Gregg says:

      08:50am | 14/01/13

      I do not wonder at all about how people get sucked into touching visions of big things that fail to materialise, mere promises for which there is never any detail of where funding will come from.

      I suppose there will be ever more borrowing to finance a surplus budget will be the next Big thing or will all the government join with Jenny Macklin to spen a few months on the dole and donate their salaries to some worthy charities.
      That would be big indeed.

      It is though people making such promises expect to be able to pull a rabbit out of a hat or wave a magic wand.
      And then when dupes getting sucked in go about making slurs on those not promising, it is no wonder at all.

      What is to be wondered is why such tripe is even accepted for posting.

    • Nostromo says:

      08:54am | 14/01/13

      Tell us one thing, just one, that Julia has DONE to show here selflessness & sacrifice for her country, one of the top 5 qualities for a leader of a nation, I think most people would agree…? Excluding parroting her speechwriters’ BS of course & the platitudes telling us what she stands for & believes in…what has she DONE in the past 2-3 years with her own hands or of her own time for us overall, or her community at least…I’m genuinely curious.

      Ask me the same thing about ‘Phony Tony” & I can list a half dozen volunteer/community activities he does without blinking, regardless of whether you think they’re all just a political stunt or not.

    • Mouse says:

      10:15am | 14/01/13

      The thing I can’t understand Derrick, is that of the 3 big, guaranteed, rock solid promises gillard made for the 2010 election - fixing the asylum seeker problems, no CT, 2012/13 surplus, none have come to fruition. Now she is promising $120B of new promises if she wins government again, and you believe her!!  LOL Amazing!!
      When she says she will continue to deliver BIG things, sorry, but to continue she has to start first! She does not deliver for the working man and she has set back women’s rights by 50 years! You make it sound like she alone makes any decisions. Sorry again, the only decisions she makes are the ones the silent men want, be assured of that!
      As for Tony Rabbott, who is he?  Way to go genius!!  lol :o)

    • nihonin says:

      01:22pm | 14/01/13

      Sorry Mouse, you’re wrong, she does deliver big things…............hollow promises.

    • Mouse says:

      02:16pm | 14/01/13

      nihonin, ooops, I stand corrected! 
      OK then…. and she will continue to deliver her BIG hollow promises for Australia….
      There ya go…all fixed!!  lol :oD

    • Mouse says:

      02:25pm | 14/01/13

      nihonin, ooops, I stand corrected!
      OK then…. and she will continue to deliver her BIG hollow promises for Australia….
      There ya go…all fixed.  lol :oD

    • Zack says:

      03:47pm | 14/01/13

      What is funny about all this is that Gillard and the ALP are heading for a massive defeat beyond all imagination. The funny part is that anyone who remotely supported her and the ALP will be life long twits of the highest order.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      04:29pm | 14/01/13

      nihonin…. And hot air because Rosie said she’s a GUSTY lady.. smile

    • Rosie says:

      05:50pm | 14/01/13

      @ pa_kelvin says:

      Yeah gusty lady Gillard style! There is a big difference!

    • ramases says:

      06:22am | 14/01/13

      I see that Gillard has been in the job longer than Rudd. About 935 days too bloody long to tell the truth. In that time we have had disastrous spending that will effect not only us and our kids but possibly our grand kids, policy failure after policy failure. The rusted ons will celebrate this disaster with much back slapping and cheering whilst those who think for themselves count the days to the next election where we will see the back of this rolling train wreck of a government for hopefully another 10 to 15 years.

    • Nostromo says:

      06:32am | 14/01/13

      Leading with a story from a month ago…slow day in sensationalism land…?

    • TimB says:

      07:52am | 14/01/13

      Actually the part where he came crawling back is a recent development.

    • simonfromlakemba says:

      08:53am | 14/01/13

      Going on with that link, O’Farrell is looking to strengthen NSW Anti-Discrimination laws. Not too sure why he is doing this.

    • Retired Soldier says:

      07:50am | 14/01/13

      Hey Derrick, (strong working man name that is) also indicates you never attended school. Your “Misogeny” might look better and mean more if it was to look more like “Misogyny” which is how the dictionary defines it. Look it up also to see what it means! If you must attack Mr Abbott (not Rabbott) then at least take the time to spell the attack properly. I doubt your red haired idol would appreciate a “working Man” like you defending her with spelling errors and embarrassing statements.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      09:29am | 14/01/13

      ““Misogyny” which is how the dictionary defines it.”

      I believe that should read, ““Misogyny” which is how the dictionary SPELLS it.”

      Definition means something else - look it up.

    • Colin says:

      10:04am | 14/01/13

      @ Blind Freddy

      Correction, BF, the spelling of a word is the least of a dictionary’s function;.


      1. A book that lists the words of a language in alphabetical order and gives their meaning, or that gives the equivalent words in a different language

      2. A reference book on any subject, the items of which are arranged in alphabetical order

    • Blind Freddy says:

      11:09am | 14/01/13


      “Correction, BF, the spelling of a word is the least of a dictionary’s function;. “

      Where did I say it wasn’t? Retired Soldier had used the dictionary to make a claim about the spelling of a word, writing - “If you must attack Mr Abbott (not Rabbott) then at least take the time to spell the attack properly”. The rest is in your imagination.

    • Mark says:

      01:22pm | 14/01/13

      It’s ok BF, Colin is a feminist. You can’t expect him to use logic

    • Colin says:

      02:57pm | 14/01/13

      @  Mark

      “It’s ok BF, Colin is a feminist. You can’t expect him to use logic…”

      Speaking of misogyny, Mark has provided us with a perfectly (ironic) example.

      Well done, Mark grin

    • subotic says:

      03:24pm | 14/01/13

      Gramma Nazi: (adj.)

      1. Your mother’s mother from Germany.

      2. see - Anal Retentive

      3. Colon: also see - Anal Retentive

    • TerryG of PK says:

      03:42pm | 14/01/13

      RS @ 7.50am - Hey Derrick, (strong working man name that is) also indicates you never attended school. Your “Misogeny” might look better and mean more if it was to look more like “Misogyny”.
      He’s not very smart our Derrick but he can lift heavy things!

    • BJ says:

      07:52am | 14/01/13

      Even though he is getting paid that much money, I still reckon that Angus Jones will bankrupt by age 30.

    • subotic says:

      12:03pm | 14/01/13

      I hope that by 30 he’s smoking crack daily & worshipping Satan.

      Otherwise he’s seriously letting the team down…..

      Here’s counting on ya AJ!!!

    • fml says:

      07:52am | 14/01/13

      Groupon/Scoopon + saving = not good for mental health.

      D@mn all those good deals! Must stay away.

    • AdamC says:

      08:36am | 14/01/13

      Henry Ergas has an interesting piece in the Aus today debunking the ‘profligate Howard’ stories that got a run on the Labor media last week. Ergas argues that the journos in question msinterpreted and/or misrepresented an IMF working paper about fiscal sustainabilty. The report is actually a long, highly technical, academic journal-style document. As such, I haven’t really been able to make head nor tail of it with my brief flick-through.

      However, Ergas is certainly right that a) the paper does not reflect any sort of IMF findings or opinion and b) the paper seems to use a number of tests of fiscal sustainability, not just one. (I actually struggled to identify which part of the report the journos got their headline numbers from.)

    • craig2 says:

      09:31am | 14/01/13

      I would say AdamC, the abstract. The laziest way to review a journal paper but gives the guts of the paper in general.

    • Tim says:

      11:01am | 14/01/13

      I wouldn’t say he’s debunked the stories, he’s simply given them context which wasn’t in some of the reporting last week. The media loves a sensationalist headline and story.

      I don’t think there’s any doubt that Howard and Costello did some great things in government but they did ride the greatest increase in revenue we’ve ever seen which allowed them to pay back debt and increase government spending to never before seen levels.

      As Ergas says at the same time the state government’s were making similar increases in spending as well and increasing debt.

      It’s part of the reason that we’re in the situation we are currently as the government(s) struggle to pare back spending to more normal levels.

    • Economist says:

      11:31am | 14/01/13

      @AdamC, I’ll join you on the open thread rather than Jessica’s piece where this issue is be hased and rehashed.

      On the weekend Steve linked to this paper that looks at the methodology

      In my opinion people seem to be missing the reality of the situation. Firstly the Howard government did promise to get rid of Labor debt and set about fixing this, they weren’t to know they’d enjoy one of the largest and longest debt booms, with a small mining boom also. Through asset sales and high revenues they achieved their objective. The Howard government from 1997-98 to 2007-08 enjoyed on average an increase of 7.5% of revenue each year. Their spending was 6.3%.

      Politically the reality of the situation is that at the time providing consistent tax cuts and increased spending on welfare, mainly, was really the only option. Sure they could have created a wealth fund on top of the future fund and put more savings away, but it was not to be. The problem was, and this is where I disagree with Dr Ergas, the spending was on the structural side of the budget. It was locked into legislation. 
      Alternatively the Labor government in response to the GFC increased discretionary spending to the tune of $50-$60b with cash handouts, BER and Batts and maintained the tax cuts and annual welfare increases, locked into legislation, that created a structural deficit. It was partly of their own making, their tax cuts, and some of it was not with continued increases in Childcare benefits and rebates, private health insurance rebates, a slight increase in unemployment outlays, indexation of family benefits, more Baby Boomers moving onto the pension and superannuation tax cuts etc.

      It was the structural spending that has smashed the budget not the discretionary spending. The result has been from 2007-08 to 2011-12 average revenues of 2.9% and average expenses of 8.2%.  The spending average was dragged up by 2008-09 when spending increased by 16%.

      My problem is the lack of courtesy given to Labor and the rose coloured glasses with the Howard government. Just as the political reality for Howard was to provide continued tax cuts and welfare handouts, the political reality for Labor was to respond to the GFC and continue with the structural spending of the Liberals. It is not realistic to expect Labor in response to the relative fall in revenue growth rates to cut 10% from the budget in 2008-09 to maintain a surplus.

      This is why I maintain the position that, you agree with because you are one of the only sensible people on this forum in my opinion, a debt was inevitable.

    • simonfromlakemba says:

      11:42am | 14/01/13

      “Labor media last week.”

      So because its in the Conservative/Liberal media it must be correct!

    • TimB says:

      12:36pm | 14/01/13

      ‘So because its in the Conservative/Liberal media it must be correct! ‘

      Huh. Kind of sounds like ‘LOL Ltd News, must be a lie’

      BTW, Adam didn’t say anything like that so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.

    • AdamC says:

      12:41pm | 14/01/13

      Craig2, nah, there wasn’t really anything in the abstract. (The report does not really mention individual countries, except in the data tables.) Maybe some friendly left wing academic deciphered the paper for the Labor media journos?

      Tim, I agree that Howard and Costello enjoyed bumper revenues. But the claim in those articles last week suggested that spending was ‘profligate’ (a bit of a value judgement anyway) when the report did not actually find that. As Economist’s link concludes, the article was ‘over-egged’ and there was altogether too much ‘hyper-bowl’. That sort of stuff irritates liberals/conservatives like me because the exagerrations and misrepresentations only ever go one way in the Labor media.

      Economist, no arguments here, though I do not like the term ‘structural deficit’. (I think we have discussed this before.) Our GFC stimulus was too lavish, but I agree that we would have run deficits in the GFC years whoever was in charge. I also think pet Labor policies like the Fair Work Act, the carbon tax and opposition to temporary skilled migration (Gina is still waiting for her Roy Hill 457 visas despite a deal having been done months ago with great fanfare) have reduced our economic growth rate and therefore revenues.

      For example, the re-imposition of ‘Modern Awards’ (a contradiction in terms if ever there was one) cannot have helped the sluggish retail sector.

      Simon, there is a conservative Liberal media now?

    • Tim says:

      01:28pm | 14/01/13

      yeah the language was probably over the top.

      I don’t think you can say “profligate” or “wasted”, they simply spent according to the political reality of the time.

      It’s more a function of our political system that our parties think only in election cycles. It’s very rare to see either of our political parties thinking or planning more than a year or two ahead.

      And whenever they think big, say Howard with the GST or Labor currently with the NBN, they get smashed by large sections of the public and media.

    • Stephen T says:

      02:23pm | 14/01/13

      I believe that Dr Ergas was fair in in the way commented on both the Gillard and Howard Governments. I’m not an economist or even an accountant for that matter but I do follow financial reporting on matters relating to our economy with some interest, the analysis provided by Dr Ergas’s article highlight’s the desultory practices used by media and some supposedly independent foundations. 

      “And the years covered by the test were a period in which the Labor states were amassing debt, with rising debt in Queensland and NSW exceeding the increase in commonwealth gross debt.
      It is consequently simply incorrect to impute the outcomes of this test to the Howard government, as it jumbles together the fiscal performance of the commonwealth and the states.”


      “That is not to claim the Howard government’s spending and taxing decisions were invariably wise. On the contrary, many were very poor indeed, though they pale in comparison with pink batts, school halls and the NBN. But the quality of public expenditure is not what the IMF working paper, which concentrates on the level of public debt, is about, and to suggest otherwise is misrepresentation.”

    • Steve says:

      04:46pm | 14/01/13

      Actually (ironically named) Economist I only linked that piece to refute the common meme that the IMF had actually said the Howard government, or indeed any Australian government, was profligate.

      They never discussed Australia. It was mischievous reporting at best. Actually it was an outright lie but we are amongst friends so I will be kind.

      For the record I feel that Howard and Costello lost the spending plot. But I am not the IMF. And the IMF never said that. Still that is hardly a headline is it.

      What is interesting is in the comments Davidson points out

      “It could have been worse. Depending on how the model handles the discontinuities round zero the Howard government might have had to have an infinitely large surplus.”

      In other words check the model before making assumption. Oh and read the report too.

      There is little doubt given the deliberate wordings used by Martin in his “piece” he was working off some treasury briefing paper or tip and had not read the actual report let alone understood it. He was telling pork pies and should be called out for it. Simple as that.

    • AdamC says:

      08:47am | 14/01/13

      It strikes me that Julia’s child abuse Royal Commission is just the sort of ‘Bambi’ issue that may give her the poll bounce to base an early election campaign on.

    • Mouse says:

      08:58am | 14/01/13

      Just a little light hearted Monday morning humour and, please, no slaps for being sexist!
      Distinction between Guts and Balls
      To those of you who are nit-pickers about the meaning of words: there is a medical distinction between Guts and Balls. We’ve all heard about people having Guts or Balls, but do you really know the difference between them?
      In an effort to keep you informed, here are the definitions:
      GUTS - is arriving home late, after a night out with the guys, being met by your wife who is holding a broom, and having the Guts to ask: “ “Are you still cleaning, or are you flying somewhere?””
      BALLS - is coming home late after a night out with the guys, smelling of perfume and beer, with lipstick on your collar, and slapping your wife on the butt and having the Balls to say: “ “You’re next, Chubby!””
      I hope this clears up any confusion on the definitions.
      Medically speaking, there is no difference in the outcome.  Both results are very loud and messy !
      Have a great day everyone!  lol :oD

    • sunny says:

      10:55am | 14/01/13

      Mouse - lol ..she’d have his guts for garters and his balls on toast smile

    • tez says:

      11:26am | 14/01/13

      I think you mean the definition of IDIOT

    • Modern Primitive says:

      10:53am | 14/01/13

      The Kim kaching article closed pretty quickly.

    • Economist says:

      11:40am | 14/01/13

      Here’s my proposal on the US debt problem and my option instead of minting a $1T coin.

      Instead the US should charge Western nations for 50 years of Defence stability as thanks. It should be $2000 for every man woman and child and with around 500 million people in Western Europe, Australian and Canada it would raise about $1T. It could be paid over 10 years and it would cost us around $4.5B a year.

      On the flip side we could assist in getting their budget back into surplus with some advice. You know increase taxes for starters. And first and foremost I’d like to see US oil companies pay 70% in taxes for a minimum of 10 years as thanks for US military and CIA intervention in Asia, South America and the Middle East that protected and overthrew democratically elected governments, and inserted US friendly dictators, to expand these companies interests in these countries. It only seems fair.

    • Steve says:

      04:25pm | 14/01/13


      Funnily enough I agree with the first point. Not in the detail but in the principle. Europe, and let us toss Britain in there as well, is a basket case because it has not had to defend itself and outsourced, for free, all of its defense responsibilities, which should be the only responsibility of a national government, to the US.

      The rest is a pile of stinking excrement. Still if you believe that simply increasing taxes fixes revenue then you should a text book and reap the rewards. You should also get paid very well to implement this well thought out strategy. Congratulations on being the first ever to think of this. I wonder why more economies don’t just do that - simply raise taxes. Seems to be logical eh?

      At least we can discount your nic as being descriptive and applaud you for the irony inherent in it.

    • tez says:

      04:33pm | 14/01/13

      Brilliant proposal, especialy the bit on the oil companies.

    • Dr B S Goh Australian in Asia says:

      11:56am | 14/01/13

      Beijing and many major cities in China are suffering from the worst ever recorded air pollution, see

      According to CCTV in one recording of the pollutants in a suburb of Beijing it was recorded at 993 micrograms per cubic meter. WHO health standard says it is desirable to be 25 micrograms or less!! This is a huge wakeup call for China.

      The air pollution is firstly caused by weather which is beyond human control. It is made worse by inefficient coal powered stations and cars.

      For those in Australia who are excited by global warming this may mean China may reduce coal powered stations and increase nuclear powered stations. Australia needs to work with China and India on nuclear powered stations as the best and most effective way to fight global warming. After all Australia has the largest deposits of Thorium the new material for safe nuclear energy.

    • ChrisE says:

      12:09pm | 14/01/13

      I am in favour of comments having to remain on topic to the article posted.

    • Yon Toad says:

      12:36pm | 14/01/13

      So am I - unless I want to comment on the ALP, the Libs, the Moonstoners, the independents, the state of the nation, what a dickhead <insert commenters name here> is…..........

    • hand2mouth says:

      01:24pm | 14/01/13

      Me too - and NO bad manners . . .
      Well, I might get half of the above.

    • vox says:

      03:00pm | 14/01/13

      ChrisE, the article posted? Do you mean the Lee Harvey Oswald look-alike who gets paid more than five brain surgeons do, and earns it by amusing those who will never have need for a brain surgeon for obvious reasons?
      Isn’t this an open thread? And how much can you say about a manufactured product who reads from a script and plays himself.
      I think you have already won the comment of the weak.

    • subotic says:

      03:19pm | 14/01/13

      I’m in favour of legalizing drugs and murder.

    • marley says:

      03:10pm | 14/01/13

      @Shane - both, I think.  Mostly sad, though.  Life isn’t fair.

    • nihonin says:

      03:17pm | 14/01/13

      I see what you mean wink

    • subotic says:

      03:25pm | 14/01/13

      Least they couldn’t read about it later if they survived, y’know….

    • Greg says:

      03:14pm | 14/01/13

      I wonder why there has been only miniscule coverage of the huge anti-gay-marriage protests in Paris in the Australian media?

      Multi-religion, multi-racial and multi-ethnic demonstrators unifying across political party lines.

      Surely it would have been headline news if it was a demonstration in favour of gay marriage.


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