Here’s a nice story by Alison Stephenson over at

They look so young!

Meet the 44th Sunset. You might be hearing a lot more of them in the future. The Perth indie-rock quartet beat out 500 talented high school bands to win a $50,000 Sony recording contract and a place on the Big Day Out line-up, alongside big acts like Foster the People

They’re all 16, and lead singer Nik Thompson is calling it the highlight of his life.

Top stuff, guys. Let’s hope there are many more highlights to come.

It’s Tuesday. What’s on your mind Punchers?

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    • acotrel says:

      05:22am | 13/12/11

      I note that the Punch staff recently had a big go at Kyle Sandilands.  I personally don’t regard him any differently to Andrew Bolt, Piers Akerman or Alan Jones.  They all have a negative effect on the world, and are overpaid for their poison !

    • Winston says:

      08:25am | 13/12/11

      The Punch staff had a go at Kyle Sandilands?

      I must have missed it.

    • John Smythe says:

      09:32am | 13/12/11

      I’d like to see a few more articles on AGW as well. Variety is the spice of life after all.

    • nossy says:

      06:04am | 13/12/11

      I have been around te music world in relation to my busines before retiring for yonks Daniel and people ask me if todays music and musicians are any better than 20-30 years ago - my answer is YES - there is some fabulous stuff around today and it just keeps getting better so good luck to 44th Sunset. We of course all owe a debt of graitude to the musos who paved the way - when Elvis first started way back in the 50’s he was panned as evil and many attempts made to stop the birth of Rock N Roll - thankfully all to no avail. Have a look at this short clip of a nutter speaking against it.

    • acotrel says:

      06:28am | 13/12/11

      I’ve always wondered about that stuff.  I was a teenager in the fifties, and poor old Elvis really got the business.  There was a lot of angst from the ratbags about the movie ‘Blackboard Jungle’.  I was sort of staying away from it, but my mother said ’ you can go and see that!’  She had a lot of smarts about her, and knew the score - idiots were trying to call the shots ! In those days we had a strong censorship regime run by the Customs Department.  Thorn Smith’s books were banned, especially ‘Turnabout’.  Have you ever read that book ?  It demonstrates just how bloody stupid the moralising bastards were back then.  And how about the Karma Sutra and the Perfumed Garden - what a load of crap ?
      Strange thing - the Customs officers were exposed to all that dangerous stuff as part of their job - I never heard of one of them raping anyone on the way home from work !

    • Budz says:

      07:40am | 13/12/11

      Ahhh so religion has been trying to restrict things we enjoy and causes no harm for a very long time!

    • iansand says:

      10:19am | 13/12/11

      Budz - No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.  Do a search on “index”, “catholic church” and “banned books”

    • Daniel Piotrowski

      Daniel Piotrowski says:

      04:08pm | 13/12/11

      Hey that’s an interesting point nossy!

    • jay-ded says:

      07:27am | 13/12/11

      The sheer energy from their grins would be enough to power a room for a day. smile

      Congrats 44th Sunset. 

      The caption is a little silly.  Of course they look so young.  They are so young!

    • chuck says:

      07:33am | 13/12/11

      looks like they are running from a barbers shop quartet and have missed out on brekkie for 44 consecutive days. Well done anyway!

    • Optional says:

      08:28am | 13/12/11

      Way to encourage the youth of the future.

    • Shenanigans says:

      09:27am | 13/12/11

      as Tim Minchin once said “Alternative Medicine”, I continue “Has either not been proved to work, Or been proved not to work. You know what they call alternative medicine, That’s been proved to work? Medicine.”

    • Elphaba says:

      08:35am | 13/12/11

      Well, I’ve crossed to the dark side.

      Because of rapidly diminishing space in my loungeroom, I have bought a Kindle.  I can’t fit another bloody bookcase in.

      I’m wary of merging books and technology, but also excited. smile

    • Shenanigans says:

      08:41am | 13/12/11

      b-b-b-but ze books, sink of ze books.

      I refuse to buy a Kindle, if i have to stack books up around the walls of my house and potentially have them collapse on me, so be it!

      ha technology merging with books, what will they think of next

    • Donny says:

      08:47am | 13/12/11

      You’ll love it Elphaba.  I have a Sony reader, but many friends have the Kindle.  Makes taking a good book away with you a lot easier. Saves a hell of a lot of weight in the hand luggage grin
      I do have to admit though that I still like the feel of a book in my hand at times

    • MD says:

      09:25am | 13/12/11

      I have iBooks on my iPhone but I refuse to buy a Kindle or the like as I love the feel of holding a book in my hand, the smell of a new book etc, I only caved and downloaded some books on the phone as I am about to move house in a week and all my books are in boxes :( so I had to have something to read on my lunch breaks and on the train.

    • gobsmack says:

      09:26am | 13/12/11

      I really liked the film (and book) Farenheit 451.

    • Ben C says:

      09:30am | 13/12/11

      Which Kindle did you get Elph? I’m looking at getting the Fire, only because it has colour.

    • Jade says:

      09:31am | 13/12/11

      I will just stick to my books, I like having the hard copy there for some reason. Same with DVD’s… I will buy them until they stop making them raspberry

    • ibast says:

      09:51am | 13/12/11

      I can’t read anymore than a few pages in electronic format.  I find it too hard on my eyes.  I’ve always printed out documents for work.

      I can’t imagine owning one of these even if it means throwing out books.

    • iansand says:

      10:17am | 13/12/11

      I have a pocket Sony.  Smaller than a normal paperback, and fits lots and lots of books.  It is great for travelling.  I still buy paper (particularly impulse buying), but check for e-books as well.

      ibast - the screen is much easier on the eye than a normal screen

    • Elphaba says:

      10:28am | 13/12/11

      Scratch that.

      Cancelled it because of the woeful amount of stuff avaiable to Australia.

      Does anyone know an easy way around this?  I’ve looked at a few software conversion programs but until the ePub war is over,  might have to stick with something a bit more Aussie friendly like a Kobo.

      @Everyone:  I’m won’t stop buying books.  Much like I haven’t stopped buying cds.  I need something a little more travel friendly.

    • Donny says:

      10:47am | 13/12/11

      @Elphaba - ” I’ve looked at a few software conversion programs but until the ePub war is over,  might have to stick with something a bit more Aussie friendly like a Kobo.”
      That is why I went for the Sony Reader.  At the time (and I think it is still the same?) the Sony would read more formats that any others on the market. Was more expensive, but I was not restricted to the stores the other readers used.

    • Mark G says:

      10:47am | 13/12/11

      I have gone to an even darker place with my reading. I often get audio books. No because I’m too lazy to read (although I am at time) but because I listen to the while driving and at other times when reading is inconvenient. I hear on a kindle you can get books that are both. You can read them and convert them to an audio book whenever that is more convenient. Its actually funny in a way. You dont realise how much of your life you spend driving until you see how quickly you get through audio books by just listerning to them in the car.

    • Elphaba says:

      11:15am | 13/12/11

      Screw it.  I think I’ll buy a Kobo touch - I can buy it from JB Hi Fi and I know I can buy what books I want.  Amazon locking people out is EXACTLY why people illegally download.

    • iansand says:

      11:20am | 13/12/11

      Elphaba - Make sure that whatever reader you get can handle Didital Rights Management.  Some don’t, and it will restrict what you can read on it.

    • ausspud says:

      12:24pm | 13/12/11

      Settle down,it looks as if your about to blow a fuse.
      (breath nice and slowly)

    • Elphaba says:

      12:40pm | 13/12/11

      @ausspud, no, I just need some more information on Kindle v other models.

      Why, when I seach the Amazon site for example, for a Wilbur Smith book (When The Lion Feeds, in case anyone was interested), do I get a green box on the right of screen, telling me that it’s not available in Australia?

      Same with Jeffery Archer, Jeffery Deaver, John Grisham, etc.  Nothing.

    • Donny says:

      01:02pm | 13/12/11

      Elphaba - “Why, when I seach the Amazon site for example, for a Wilbur Smith book (When The Lion Feeds, in case anyone was interested), do I get a green box on the right of screen, telling me that it’s not available in Australia?”

      A lot has to do with publishing rights.  Amazon may have the rights to release in the US, however it would probably be under another companies rights here in Oz. That’s how it was explained to me.

    • natweeza says:

      01:07pm | 13/12/11

      Kindle’s are awesome. You’re right, Amazon does not sell a lot of titles in Australia, but books are easy to download elsewhere. You can also download a free program called Calibre that will convert any ebooks into .mobi, or whatever format you need. It’s also good for sorting your ebook collection.

      I was under the impression that whatever restrictions Australian publishers place on Amazon, they will apply to any other ebook reader. Unfortunately, it seems you either need to have a US account to buy decent books, or download them illegally.

    • Mark G says:

      02:03pm | 13/12/11


      Ive got a worse example with the audio books I have been downloading through I am listerning to the ‘a song of ice and fire’ series (first book is ‘a game of thrones’). The series is a five book series. In Australia you can get book 1,2,3 and 5. Yes thats right, they have book rights in Australia to every book in the series except book 4. Go figure.

    • Redeker Plan says:

      02:37pm | 13/12/11


      Coming into this thread late in the day.  I’m an eBook convert.  I bought my Sony Reader last year for the same reason as most - absolutely no more room for another bookcase. 3 Bedroom house, 2 humans, 3000+ books, many of which are large folio type books. 

      I went for the Sony over the Kindle for the exact same reason that you did - the range of eBooks offered by Amazon to Australians is simply an insult.  Similarly, I can’t vouch for the new iRiver; from what I’ve heard, you can only use it to buy books from Google, so you’re tied into just one supplier same as Kindle/Amazon.  I could be wrong there though, but check it out.  The Sony supports a wider range of file-types, although ePub is ALWAYS the optimum file for eBooks.  Many people rave about reading on the iPad but the backlit screen is a no-no for me.  I think having a dedicated non-backlit gadget especially for eBooks is the way to go.  Being able to take 100s of books when you’re travelling is an absolute life-changer.

      I bought one of the new model Sony Readers last month for my partner.  He had been sceptical before, but he’s now a firm convert.  Being on public transport, he’s much happier with the light Reader rather than lugging the mammoth volumes of Song and Ice and Fire around with him, which is what he’s been concentrating on getting through for months now.

      Ebooks can still be pricey here, but there are options to shop around, sometimes what costs $20 at Kobo maybe cheaper elsewhere, so it pays to scout around.  Here are some great other sites:, booku, Borders online (still going strong, with reasonable prices), Google books, Baen books and lots of others that are pretty easy to find.

      Sites with lots of free content:,, Baen free library (fantasy/sci-fi), Gutenberg and heaps more.

      Hope this helps, and enjoy the new toy, whichever one you go for!

    • Elphaba says:

      02:46pm | 13/12/11

      I seem to have worked our having the correct regions on Amazon and now all those authors I couldn’t find are available.

      I’m hoping that will have solved the problem… smile

    • LJ Dots says:

      06:10pm | 13/12/11

      Last weekend, I realised something had to be done. Books in the halls, books borrowed by friends that never found their way home, books in the corners, books stacked higgledy-piggledy, my own personal literary jenga.

      These things needed organising damnit so I turned to everyones friend - eBay.

      I lost four auctions for bookcases on eBay. Four! How can this happen (besides being a tightarse)?  I was crushed, devastated, disorganised. But the pain of that experience would not compare to losing my books into a sleek, WiFi enabled, leather padded, easily readable ... oh crap.

      Curse you Elphaba.

    • Adam Diver says:

      09:35am | 13/12/11

      With a media enquiry going on, I may as well explain my pet hate for “journalism” and its the repitition of unchecked “facts”. Just because someone says it doesn’t mean the information is in anyway relevant. I would really like to see sources provided for information, rather than just free airplay for people with an agenda.

      I came across this today

      “Chair of the guidelines working committee Amanda Lee said obesity accounted for more than 56 per cent of all deaths in Australia”

      I want to know where Amanda pulled this figure from, because its obviously stupid, particular considering that the same article quotes 62% of adults are obese.

      Me thinks accounted was the wrong term used, but the relevant fear lobby will use this information now broadcasted on various media outlets as a base to demand some sort of loss of freedom on the population.

      The problem is, as is regularly the case, the fact it has been repeated by large media outlets, means that the claim now has legitimacy.

    • iansand says:

      10:23am | 13/12/11

      It is one of my pet hates as well.  “Smoking causes seventy gazillion % of deaths”.  It doesn’t.  Birth causes death, so far on 100% correlation.  Smoking and obesity may accelerate death, but they don’t cause it.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      10:49am | 13/12/11

      Think it comes back to people having blinkers on when it comes to agreeing with things that suit their own agenda.

      Personally, if I want to find out something Ill read a couple of things about it from different opinions and go from there.

      But I have said before on the Punch that its rare to find actual journalists these days, they all cop out and take the Opinion Writer tag so when they get called out ” oh we are only an Opinion Writer, we don’t have to check our facts etc “

      But something interesting happened in America last week about a blog writer who got sued by a banking company for writing stuff about them which she couldn’t back up, she claimed that she had to protect her source, but as she wasn’t a ‘Journalist’ that she wasn’t protected under the law.

    • ausspud says:

      12:04pm | 13/12/11

      Its all a rort Adam,a mate of mine went to the Doc’s and he was classified as obese.
      His weight 82kg
      His weight for his body type should be 78kg
      So 4kg classifies you as obese,it’s bullshit.

    • Jade says:

      09:36am | 13/12/11

      Last week I came to the realisation that I hate my job, I loath having to come in here every day and every day I am here kills me inside a little bit more (dramatic much raspberry)

      I’ve been browsing the job market a fair bit over the past few months and have noticed that there is really no jobs out there. Really shows how our economy is actually going.  I did go for an interview yesterday at a primary school, but was unsuccessful - which was probably a good thing because thinking about it today, I don’t think I am what they are after. lol oh well, the search continues…

      oh those kids need to do something about that hair… it is atrocious :S

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      10:53am | 13/12/11

      You a teacher? Always teaching work isn’t there? They do say change is as good as a holiday.

      Our economy is good (  some policies which have been bad ), just don’t listen to the Liberal whingers who think its the worst in the world :S meanwhile cruising along at 5.3% unemployment, compared to America, mid 9% and that’s an improvement!

    • TimB says:

      11:27am | 13/12/11

      I don’t think anyone is saying it’s the ‘worst in the world’ Simon (anyone who is is an idiot, I agree).  And yes compared to most other contries we are are doing relatively well. But it could and should be doing much better IMO.

    • Jade says:

      11:41am | 13/12/11

      Nah not a teacher, just administration/accounts person! boring paper pushing :(

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      01:23pm | 13/12/11


      Only have to read the Punch to see what the Right think

      Agree, way tooo much waste is going on, should be a lot better.

    • Shenanigans says:

      09:50am | 13/12/11

      Another day, another shoulder mending, extremely painful yet pleasantly eye pleasing session at the physio. and casually cruising down the street with my fully sick ute bro playing Tim Minchin, you would be surprised how many strange looks you get. Oh and i can drive now raspberry well I’m not supposed to but meh wink and that’s what’s on my mind.

    • iansand says:

      11:28am | 13/12/11

      If the eye pleasure is in the form of a physio, be warned.  I had a long bout of physio after a knee reconstruction.  After it was over I took one of my physios out a couple of times.  We discovered that we had little in common when she was not inflicting pain and humiliation on me (she called it therapy).

    • Shenanigans says:

      12:34pm | 13/12/11

      I’m guessing I’m too young for her, so I’m just fine with harmless flirting while she causes me immense pain, least she apologies raspberry
      and hey, I’m not complaining about being shirtless in front of an extremely attractive lady raspberry although I’m pretty sure the black, blue, purple and scarred shoulder with a now mangled tattoo isn’t attractive

    • Tim says:

      12:43pm | 13/12/11

      “We discovered that we had little in common when she was not inflicting pain and humiliation on me (she called it therapy). “

      Um, isn’t that every relationship?

    • stephen says:

      10:02am | 13/12/11

      So I ring up Translink to find out how much credit I have on my go-cards and I get asked these questions :
      Last 8 digits on my card, (reasonable).
      My full name, OK.
      Address, why ?
      Date of birth,
      and mother’s maiden name.

      I’d like Gillard to ban Translink, and put colour icons back on cigarette packets.

    • jay-ded says:

      10:31am | 13/12/11

      I’d like Australia to ban Gillard but hey, aint gonna happen either is it?

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      10:57am | 13/12/11

      The same amount of Australians for the most part want to see Abbott banned to, where would that leave us?

    • Shenanigans says:

      12:11pm | 13/12/11

      in a state of political bliss?

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      10:55am | 13/12/11

      Saw that this morning. I’m usually Americas 1st critic, but I can see where they are coming from there, a tad insensitive.

      But if you can actually build a building to look like that, it would be pretty unreal.

    • Mark G says:

      01:57pm | 13/12/11

      They should have just called it a memorial and they would have got away with it. wink

    • Warwick says:

      10:54am | 13/12/11

      There is a story in the Australian yesterday about a man who is claiming special treatment in law because of his Aboriginality.

      “The Family Court has declared a “notably fair” man to be a “proud Aborigine” despite both his parents saying they are white.”

      “Until the age of 19, he and his parents….. and siblings were identified (and self-identified) as Anglo Australians,” Justice Ryan said. “None of his relations were identified as, or claimed to be, Aboriginal.”

      “However, when the man, known in court documents as Mr Sheldon was 19 years old, his paternal grandmother called him to her sick bed to tell him some family secrets.
      She said she was part-Aboriginal but had always hidden her racial identity. She said that her first-born son had been fathered not by her husband, who is white, but by a married Aboriginal man.

      These revelations “resonated with (Mr Sheldon) and he began a journey of self-discovery in which (Mr Sheldon) began to identify as Aboriginal”.

      “(He) was described as having “little knowledge of his ancestry” but said his understanding of Aboriginal culture “continues to grow as I travel and yarn with other mobs”. End of quote from The Australian.

      There is a guy who tells about being called to his grandmother’s death bed when he was 21. She told him that his father was not sired by her husband but by a Catholic priest.
      This story struck a chord with this guy and he sought out some Catholics and yarned with them. When they told him about the miracles by which the bread and wine is turned into the flesh and blood of Jesus, that resonated with him. When they told him about Papal infallibility he was deeply moved. He now calls himself a Catholic.

      In court he alleges that there was an anti-Catholic bias in his state when he was a boy and this prevented his grandmother from telling him, and prevented him from experiencing, his Catholic heritage.

      He is seeking unspecified damages.

    • ausspud says:

      12:14pm | 13/12/11

      It seems to me his family is the problem,Besides I cannot see one thing in the article where he’d be intitled to some money.
      Just another person hopeing for a handout.

    • Anubis says:

      02:07pm | 13/12/11

      @ auspud - what the article was aboput was that he was trying to stop his ex-partner from taking their child overseas (the mother is Irish). He found out that the Family Court gives precedence to Aboriginal children remaining in Australia and by stressing his “aboriginal heritage” he felt he could sway the Court to the decision he wanted.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      01:31pm | 13/12/11

      Lol ironic isn’t it?

      This is the same Andrew Bolt who is an immigrant himself, who went back to Holland because he didn’t feel at place in Australia and wants to bury his mum back in Holland, but yet any mulism immigrant who wants to do the same thing, is some free loader etc

      Also used to be aligned with the Labor party and also denied he had a fiance and then back tracked, opps yes I did.

    • marley says:

      02:58pm | 13/12/11

      I thought Bolt was born here.  Not that that’s got anything to do with your point.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      03:38pm | 13/12/11


      Sorry, he was born here. Parents moved here.

    • ausspud says:

      12:18pm | 13/12/11

      Hanson 2

    • ausspud says:

      12:20pm | 13/12/11

      Can someone go to the stadium and pick up Dash,I think the poor bloke is waiting for a second encore from the foo fighters wink

    • Pints says:

      12:48pm | 13/12/11

      Dash better be a pre pubescent kid or he has no excuse for being into such noise pollution garbage.

    • Jade says:

      12:56pm | 13/12/11

      I might join him… they were the best band I have ever seen smile

    • Elphaba says:

      01:09pm | 13/12/11

      @Jade, definitely top 3.  Green Day a couple of years ago was pretty awesome too.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      01:34pm | 13/12/11

      Hes most probably rocking in the corner mumbling ‘carbon tax, carbon tax’

    • gobsmack says:

      03:21pm | 13/12/11

      Someone should be filtering out the filth being broadcasted.

    • TimB says:

      03:28pm | 13/12/11

      Quick, someone add Conroy to the blacklist smile

    • James1 says:

      02:07pm | 13/12/11

      Just returned from a few nights away after my second wedding (to the same woman, I should add).  We were first married ten years ago when I was 19 and she 18, and naturally we were very young and very poor, and having both come from working class families could not afford much.

      This time, I have made a massive effort that included a few nights in a nice hotel in Sydney afterwards, plenty of alcohol, awesome top quality food and the most expensive venue I could afford.  Nothing crass or over the top (no stretch hummers thank Zeus), just a low-key, dignified, yes classy affair.  My wife wasn’t aware this was happening until ten days ago, and was absolutely stunned that our daughter and I managed to keep this a secret.

      I can honestly say it was the best day of my life - if for no other reason than I got to reaffirm my love for this wonderful woman, and at the same time give her the wedding I know she always wanted.

      Apologies for spouting so many cliches, fellow Punchers, but I feel a little emotional today, and just wanted to share my joy and happiness with you all.

    • John Smythe says:

      02:34pm | 13/12/11

      Well done mate! All the best to you both!

    • Elphaba says:

      02:37pm | 13/12/11

      That’s gorgeous. smile  Congrats to you and your wife.

    • marley says:

      02:59pm | 13/12/11

      Great story, James - and congratulations.

    • Jade says:

      03:20pm | 13/12/11

      Congratulations on your second wedding! smile I hope one day my OH can being even a smig as romantic as you are raspberry hahaha

    • John Smythe says:

      02:39pm | 13/12/11

      Welp….going to put Eve on hold…..EQ2 had some free to play suckyoubackin deal and I’m pretty happy with what they’ve done. Time to dust off the necromancer and get some orc slaying fun~

      Although everyone’s into the BF3 and that, is anyone playing EQ2 still?

      Going to have to pick my son up a new comp as his current one (my really old one) isn’t up to it, even with a new graphics card.

    • the Labor Landslide says:

      06:46pm | 13/12/11

      SBS TV “Housohs” is a best ever Monday Night Television Programme ever !
      TVS “Mark My Words” is the worst Monday night television programme ever


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