The National Australia Bank has apologised for calling the cops on a customer after misinterpreting what he said over the phone.

A NAB operator misinterpreted what Adrian Everett said as threatening his children and called the cops. The operator misheard him. And the cops stormed the house

As misunderstandings go, it’s a whopper.

It’s Friday, and it’s been a whopper of a week. What’s on your mind?

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    • Gaz says:

      05:48am | 09/11/12

      What did he say?

    • Mahhrat says:

      06:39am | 09/11/12

      Seconded, though I fear we’ll never know.

      Would also like to know how it is you can mis-hear something so completely that you immediately phone the police.

    • KH says:

      07:14am | 09/11/12

      I believe the bank called him about some issue, but he was busy with his kids and was a little annoyed with the call.  I don’t remember reading his exact words,  but it wasn’t anything near what the half wit operator claimed.  I am no stranger to having words put in my mouth that I never said and having it result in a serious consequence - I would be pretty pissed off if I was him too.

    • Kiddo says:

      07:37am | 09/11/12

      I read in another newspaper yesterday that Adrian said he said something “smart” or was being smart in his conversation with the operator. But yeah, he must have said something questionable for the operator to call the cops.

    • subotic says:

      08:06am | 09/11/12

      Gee, I told a Filipino “Telstra” operator to go and piss off last nite.

      Will the National Australia Bank dob me into the cops for that?

    • CC says:

      08:51am | 09/11/12

      It was a debt collections “specialist” and having had the displeasure to deal with one I can say that the debt collectors try EVERYTHING to make your life hell.  They are nasty pieces of work, and obviously hate themselves immensely (hence why they do that job to begin with).  They will do everything dirty you can imagine, threaten you with things that they can’t possibly actually legally do to you, financial sanctions (to credit agencies which stop you getting credit of any kind for years on end) and garnering your wages.  They try it all, and the worst part is that the financial sanctions they do, and its almost impossible to get your negative credit report removed when they put it up there fraudulently.  I had to go through the Ombudsman to get my false debt removed and it took weeks, many phone calls, and a lot of trouble and my so called debt had already been paid, it was an error on their end, and they tried to milk me again for the debt when I refused to pay again the debt collector was a disgusting example of a human being.  There should be legal action against the collector involved.

    • Philosopher says:

      08:53am | 09/11/12

      he said, ‘drop the excessive fees or I will shoot my own todger.’
      teller heard ‘todger’ as ‘toddler.’
      the rest is history.

    • Tim says:

      08:55am | 09/11/12

      No in the article it gave the guys description of what he thought he said, not what was actually said.

      It’s not like he was going to admit threatening his kids is it? They’ve got the tape but unless they release it then we’ll never know.

    • che says:

      08:59am | 09/11/12

      I always pretend my mummy and daddy aren’t home when I get unwanted calls, wonder if they will call the cops on me for leaving the kids in the house alone?

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      05:49am | 09/11/12

      Failing states- from the rise of Golden Dawn in Greece to vigilantism in Egypt to protect women from harassment to very dodgy accounting in Mexican provincial governments. Noteworthy trends or isolated incidents??

    • marley says:

      06:37am | 09/11/12

      @Shane - neither.  All part of the human condition.  Good and bad, indifferent and interfering, right wing and left wing, honest and corrupt.

    • XT says:

      08:42am | 09/11/12

      @marley - you really are a coincidence theorist aren’t you?

    • AdamC says:

      08:51am | 09/11/12

      Well, in the greater Middle East (which I take as including muslim central and south Asia) it seems there is a perennial choice between oppression and chaos. They are just trying out the latter at the moment after a run of the former.

      However, can someone explain to me why Latin America is so hideously crime-ridden? Of a list of the top ten most dangerous cities I saw recently, all of them were in Latin America. What is the story?

    • Mouse says:

      08:58am | 09/11/12

      XT, what exactly is your problem with marley?  Are you secretly in love and this is your idea of getting marley to like you?  lol
      Well lots of luck with that one, but if this is your idea of how to get the job done, I really think you should try a new approach!! LOL :oD

    • XT says:

      09:28am | 09/11/12

      marley dismisses everything as just coincidence.  No one else can have a valid point of view, or express something worth further investigation, or have an opinion of their own without marley either adhominem attacking them, or putting some kind of rubbish straw man argument in there, or simply saying its all just a coincidence, nothing ever gets done by design.
      It amounts to reductio ad absurdum, hence marley is a solipsist.  I just thought he might like a little of his/her own medicine see if it gets annoying someone just tagging on adhominem reductio ad absurdum comments to his/her posts.

      I mean failed states and dodgey accounting as mentioned in Shanes post, couldn’t possibly have anything to do with corruption?  No, because marley says so.

      “I cannot transcend experience, and experience is my experience. From this it follows that nothing beyond myself exists; for what is experience is its [the self ’s] states.”

    • TimB says:

      09:38am | 09/11/12

      lol ‘coincidence theorist’? WTF is that?

    • Ando says:

      09:56am | 09/11/12

      Lay off XT, Marley seems a lot more reasonable then you.

    • Chris L says:

      10:04am | 09/11/12

      @Mouse - Having a stalker is a sign of greatness wink

    • simonfromlakemba says:

      10:13am | 09/11/12


      “However, can someone explain to me why Latin America is so hideously crime-ridden? Of a list of the top ten most dangerous cities I saw recently, all of them were in Latin America. What is the story?”

      The love of Drugs, America specifically.

      I think it was Costa Rica was really safe and then drug runners started using it as a transit point and then the murder rates tripled.

      An article from the Economist, read the comments down below for balance.

    • XT says:

      10:18am | 09/11/12

      @ChrisL & Mouse - Having people jump to your defence (when they don’t even know what they are defending) is a sign of sheoplism.  Follow the leader, may “The Great” marley (according to Chris)  lead you down the path of pure coincidence bravely.

    • Mouse says:

      10:24am | 09/11/12

      XT, I’m pretty sure marley is no solipsist (yeeeeees I had to look it up!).  I usually think marley’s comments are level headed and wide reaching.  While I may not always agree with marley’s thoughts, I do appreciate the way they are written, without bile or rancour. This is, after all,  just an opinion site and manners should still be applied. Each to their own, isn’t it? ;o)

      I do like your last sentence though…... whatever you are smoking, please share!! lol xo)

    • Mouse says:

      10:37am | 09/11/12

      ChrisL, I know, and I am just jealous!! lol xo)

      XT, I love your bravado! lol I think you will find though that sheeple (I am assuming that it was a typo)  ChrisL and I defintiely ain’t!  I will stick up for anyone that is being picked on, regardless of their beliefs. It’s in my DNA and I can’t help it. I would even stick up for you, providing that you share of course!!  hehehehehe   :o)

    • XT says:

      11:02am | 09/11/12

      if you meant the statement “I cannot transcend experience, and experience is my experience. From this it follows that nothing beyond myself exists; for what is experience is its [the self ’s] states.”
      It is a quote from Francis Herbert Bradley as a characterisation of the solipsitic view.

      Although in your own underhanded way, you did just also veil a snide comment insinuating I was a pot head.  Sneaky, but still very transparent.

    • TimB says:

      11:12am | 09/11/12

      Seems you really touched a nerve Marley- Thought it was Badger for a second yesterday (the original argument was reminicent of Badger’s twisted ‘facts’ vs ‘opinion’ crusade), but this is a whole new ball of crazy.

      Good luck wink

    • Chris L says:

      11:56am | 09/11/12

      @XT - “people jump to your defence (when they don’t even know what they are defending) is a sign of sheoplism”

      I actually read Marley’s comment and saw nothing objectionable about it. Your reply seemed to have very little relevance to the comment made, thus demonstrating that you are chasing a personal vendetta (ie. stalking).

      Seems pretty straight forward to me.

      PS. I often (usually) disagree with Marley myself, but don’t see a need to belabour the point.

    • Simba says:

      12:20pm | 09/11/12

      Still can’t tell the difference between a lie and the truth.
      Thinks opinions are OK if they contain errors of fact.
      Case in point, his hero Piers Akerman says 640 million when in fact the number is 64 million.
      No wonder these conservative fanbois ignore the 70 billion dollar black holes.

    • marley says:

      12:57pm | 09/11/12

      @Chris L et al - well, I’m honoured to have my own personal stalker (actually, I’ve got a couple of them).  Not sure it’s a sign of greatness, though - alas.

      None of this really has anything to do with my comment to Shane, BTW;  it’s all a product of my labelling something XT said the other day as conspiracy theory.

      @XT:  “ad hominem” fallacies occur when one attacks the person, not the argument. I attacked your argument.  That’s not ad hominem. 

      “Straw men” fallacies occur when one attacks an argument that was never made. I attacked the argument you actually made.  No straw men.

      “Reductio ad absurdum” requires one to draw a ridiculous conclusion in order to prove a fallacy.  I did nothing of the kind. It is actually you that is drawing the ridiculous conclusion by taking a perfectly standard reporting requirement the SEC places on all foreign countries marketing bonds on American exchanges, and leaping to the conclusion that Australia must therefore be an American-owned corporation and the shareholders get all our taxes. 

      As for conspiracy theories, I call them as I seem them.  One of the sources of the “Australia is a corporation” theme is a guy named Arthur Cristian, who also believes that the Protocols of Zion are real, that there is a New World Order of illuminati out to destroy the world’s population, that 9/11 was an inside job and that vaccines cause autism.  You keep very strange company.

      By the way, I didn’t say that corruption had nothing to do with failed states.  Now that truly is a straw man.  What I said was that I didn’t see any particular new trend when it comes to corruption or failed states:  they’re all just periodic consequences of the human condition.

    • Philosopher says:

      01:00pm | 09/11/12

      a-ha, someone who quotes the great, if overlooked, idealist Bradley! Actually XT, I agree that marley’s comment actually added nothing of value, although I would hesitate to call it a reductio ad absurdum, as I don’t actually think he actually presented a premiss!

      You could be a pot-head, if you read a lot of Bradley, however clearly not to your detriment.

    • fml says:

      01:16pm | 09/11/12


      But the illuminati are real! Tom hanks made a film about it…

    • Philosopher says:

      01:29pm | 09/11/12

      ‘“Reductio ad absurdum” requires one to draw a ridiculous conclusion in order to prove a fallacy.’

      No, it’s not… reductio ad absurdum can be a legitimate argument. It’s used by demonstrating that a premiss is valid by showing that its negation is invalid. The fact that this often shows faulty logic does not mean it is always so.

      Don’t tell me the Punch is starting to get interesting?

    • XT says:

      01:35pm | 09/11/12

      @Marley you still banging on that Australia is not a corporation is laughable, given you can clearly and easily find it on the open stock exchange listed as a corporation.  Whether that is good or bad is another position entirely.  Again reducto ad absurdum by trying to associate me with people I don’t know, and another premise I never mentioned “zionism” you brought that up not me. Not ever.  You can try and weasel your way out of it, but simple fact is your comments often add nothing of value, attempt to reduce points of view or remove all further conversation about a topic by associating it with the absurd, and straw man is exactly what you do and heres how pretty much textbook;
      Person 1 has position X.
      Person 2 disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y. The position Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:
      Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent’s position.

      Quoting an opponent’s words out of context — i.e. choosing quotations that misrepresent the opponent’s actual intentions
      Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender, then refuting that person’s arguments — thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position (and thus the position itself) has been defeated

      Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs which are then criticized, implying that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.

      Oversimplifying an opponent’s argument, then attacking this oversimplified version.

      Person 2 attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed.

      This sort of “reasoning” is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position fails to constitute an attack on an actual position

      I put it to you that “conspiracy theory” claims are indeed reductio ad absurdum and ad hominem and straw man all rolled into one neat little package.  I also put it to you using your logic displayed that if you do not believe in “conspiracy theory” then you must believe in “coincidence theory”
      con simply means with, and spiracy form spiro/spirate meaning spirit…conspiracy - with spirit.  Yes this is also reductio ad absurdum.

    • Failtrollisfail says:

      01:51pm | 09/11/12

      @fml they have their own “official” webpage, so clearly there is an organisation known as the “illuminati” in existence.  What they do is up for discussion, but they exist….note there is also a “my little pony” website.  Why does no one ever suspect the little pony?  Hiding in plain sight imo.

    • TimB says:

      02:53pm | 09/11/12

      “...attempt to reduce points of view or remove all further conversation about a topic by associating it with the absurd,... “

      No need to associate it with the absurd. Your argument is absurd all on its own.

      Australia is not a corporation, owned by Americans or otherwise. You are wrong.

    • TimB says:

      05:53pm | 09/11/12

      XT, you don’t even understand what you are looking at. It’s been explained to you multiple times and you refuse to listen.

    • marley says:

      06:23pm | 09/11/12

      @XT - you said, and I quote:  ” “The Commonwealth of Australia” is a registered company in Washington, and all of your customs money, import tax etc actually goes to shareholders of the the corporation known as “The Commonwealth of Australia” and not to “we the people” at all”

      And I say again, the only evidence you have provided is that Australia, like all foreign countries with business on the US exchanges, files financial reports and prospectuses with the SEC if it wishes to sell its bonds, or those of the states, in the American market.

      The main form which is listed on the SEC website under your link is Form18K, which is specifically for “Foreign Governments and Political Subdivisions Thereof” - not for corporations.  That should be the hint that Australia is reporting as a foreign government to the SEC.  By the way, countries as diverse as Canada, Italy and Venezuela submit the same form. I doubt you’re going to convince anyone that Venezuela is controlled by anyone other than Hugo Chavez.

      Further, you have provided no evidence whatsoever to establish that the SEC filings submitted via our Embassy go one inch beyond that legal reporting requirement, which boils down to,  Australia is solvent, we have laws to regulate our financial institutions, we stand behind our bonds, and those of the states, and we have the financial capacity to do so.

      You have certainly not established that customs duties and taxes are being siphoned off to “shareholders” outside Australia.

      And after a few minutes research,  your belief that Australia is a corporation and not a state is listed on a number of conspiracy sites, and nowhere else.  So, if I choose to say yours is a conspiracy theory with no basis in facts, well, I’ve got more evidence than you do.

      All the stuff about straw men you’ve raised doesn’t address the fundamental issue:  you have nothing at all to show that our customs duties and tax dollars are filling some investors’ pockets. 

      The Commonwealth of Australia is treated by the Americans as a foreign country, and required to report on that basis.  That’s the simple truth, and one easily verifiable.

      Here’s a hint:

    • Mouse says:

      06:51pm | 09/11/12

      XT, there is nothing sneaky or underhand about me!  It is a fairly common reply on here when someone says something a bit out of the box, such as “Wow, what have you been smoking?”  It’s all in fun and there is no veiled attempt to put anyone down. I tend to try and be pretty light hearted about most things and am certainly not going to get upset at anything anyone I can’t see says.  I also believe laughter lines are sexier than frown lines so, call me frivolous if you must, but I do not take anything said to heart.  Have a great evening, I am sure we shall chat again sometime…  lol :o)

    • Ian1 says:

      06:24am | 09/11/12

      A poll from results below;


      Should single men be allowed to bring up children they father using a surrogate?


      Thank you for voting
      I am stunned.  It would seem fathers really are on the back foot regarding equality in society’s eyes.  Would an Australian poll show similar results?  I wonder.  I am not calling sexism, but…

    • Ian1 says:

      06:50am | 09/11/12

      Should single women be allowed to bring up children they mother using donor sperm?

      Expecting similar results not.

    • Kev says:

      07:24am | 09/11/12

      That breastfeeding’s gotta hurt. Happy trolling.,  Ian.

    • Ian1 says:

      07:48am | 09/11/12

      Wet nursing is an honest trade.  Troll away Kev, troll away.

    • che says:

      09:47am | 09/11/12

      I would be interested to see how many single men actually want to do this? Maybe if there were a lot of single men requesting this, people would think it was normal? I would assume that the amount of men seeking this out would be fairly small….

    • PsychoHyena says:

      01:34pm | 09/11/12

      @che, that’s a difficult one. Given that the most common assumption of a single male wanting to raise a child is that said male is a paedophile, I don’t think many would be willing to stand up and be counted.

      On a side note: If I hadn’t met my partner then maybe I would consider the raising a child I father through surrogacy.

    • Mahhrat says:

      06:49am | 09/11/12

      Lots of and lots of political discourse this week. 

      Not enough talk of the cricket.  C’arn the Aussies!!!

    • Macca says:

      07:15am | 09/11/12

      Ehrmagerd! TEST MATCH CRICKET!

      Even if Miranda Kerr turned up naked in my bed I couldn’t be more excited.

    • Loddlaen says:

      07:21am | 09/11/12

      I’d rather not talk about the cricket. I just can’t see Australia getting up this series. :(

    • Arnold Layne says:

      08:08am | 09/11/12

      Good to see a cricket post here.  I’m ready for the Test match to start.  Should be a belter.

      Macca - you need to get out more often.  (Love the sentiment though!)  grin

    • HappyG says:

      08:29am | 09/11/12

      @Macca That’s one maiden I’d like to bowl over.

    • Philosopher says:

      08:57am | 09/11/12

      let’s discuss the possibility of Miranda Kerr appearing in one’s bed nude. Macca, is this likely? She is based in the US!

    • AFR says:

      09:10am | 09/11/12

      HappyG - as my Indoor Cricket Team used as its motto: “why bowl a maiden over when you can bat all day?”

    • Ally says:

      10:34am | 09/11/12

      Stupidly, I didn’t bring in my wireless and my ipod only has FM radio. To compensate, I’ve got the 12th Man playing. Better than nothing.

    • AFR says:

      10:45am | 09/11/12

      TV on in my office. I’m happy to post score updates smile

    • ausspud says:

      11:26am | 09/11/12

      Our top bowlers not breaking down every 5min would be a good start,but I think we are currently in the rebuilding stage so it should be interesting.

    • Ben C says:

      12:10pm | 09/11/12

      If you can get access, ABC Grandstand should be simulcasting online.

    • Horthy says:

      07:24am | 09/11/12

      So that’s where Dash ended up after Firefly!

    • Fiddler says:

      09:43am | 09/11/12


    • Fiddler says:

      09:44am | 09/11/12

      and I believe he said “I am a large, semi-muscular man” upsetting the telephonist.

    • stephen says:

      07:35am | 09/11/12

      A senior NSW Policeman has expressed his desire for a Royal Commission into the Catholic Church who, he says, covered up Priests who were under suspicion for child molestation.
      They also too, he says, destroyed evidence that may incriminate people.

      I agree, and the PM should earn her pay and instigate it.

    • AdamC says:

      08:56am | 09/11/12

      Church-bashers will never be satisfied. In Victoria, there was this ongoing clamour for a Parliamentary inquiry into Church abuses. The Victorian government eventually caved into the pressure. (They tend to do that.) Now, of course, there are calls for a Royal Commission, even before the Parliamentary inquiry has concluded.

      I do not doubt that Churches mishandled child abuse in the past, as did many other organisations and society at large. I am not convinced that religious organisations should be singled out for this sort of quasi-punitive scrutiny. I also am unsure what these sorts of inquiries are supposed to accomplish. I am willing to be convinced, though.

    • iansand says:

      09:40am | 09/11/12

      The Church should welcome a Royal Commission to clear up these scurrilous and ill-informed accusations once and for all.

      Or not.

    • Fiddler says:

      09:42am | 09/11/12

      except that the PM really has no place to direct a state agency to do so. The AFP really doesn’t have the resources to do this, and would be no doubt best done by state police. Don’t get me wrong I love knocking Julia for all her many many many failings, but I find this one a bit silly

    • fml says:

      09:44am | 09/11/12


      Society at large?

      “I am not convinced that religious organisations should be singled out for this sort of quasi-punitive scrutiny.”

      What other groups have systematically abused children and covered it up?

    • Tim the Toolman says:

      09:46am | 09/11/12

      “Church-bashers will never be satisfied.”

      Yes, amazing that people want heavy investigation into institutionally covered up child abuse.  The pope might have to sell one of his golden thrones to cover the costs!

      This is just one of the many crimes the church should have stood trial for over the centuries.

    • TheRealDave says:

      09:59am | 09/11/12

      Why should ANY organisation be afforded protections over and above the rest of society?

      Should we likewise treat other criminals on the same basis as religions?? A few years of being “a good bloke” should help knock a few years off a child rape sentence? Few “Hail Mary’s” and a transfer interstate suffice? We are looking at new laws to force people to speak in court but we don’t hold religious people to the same standards?

      If ANY other organisation had done what the Church continues to do they would be all sitting in gaol right now and their organisation would have been legally rubbed out.

      Thats why religions are getting the contempt they deserve from a more educated public.

    • PsychoHyena says:

      10:15am | 09/11/12

      @AdamC, so what do you feel should happen then? If an organisation (religious or not) has been involved in paedophilia and ACTIVELY moved to cover it up then something needs to be done. Remember that you’re talking about a Vic Parliamentary Inquiry, whereas this is a NSW officer saying that rather than the States deal with it on a state-by-state basis it should be handled Nationally.

      The Church has had plenty of time to clean house (20+ years), the fact that they haven’t (including evidence that accused priests are still preaching to the flock and in schools) indicates they don’t really care.

      If the Pope was serious he would be excommunicating the whole stinking lot of them, including those involved in the cover-ups.

    • Anubis says:

      10:37am | 09/11/12

      @ pa_Kelvin - The Scouting movement in Australia is highly regulated and all leaders and adult helpers require Working with Children certificates. In the past there may have been a few incidents but today, highly improbable. If it does occur then it does point to weaknesses in the WWC processes. I have worked as a volunteer and office bearer in the Scouting movement for about 5 years now and have seen no sign of inappropriate behaviour in this time (my interaction is mainly at Group level).  All possible steps that need to be taken to minimise the potential of child abuse within the movement have been implemented and are actively followed.

    • TheRealDave says:

      10:52am | 09/11/12

      And ALL should be investigated to the full extent of the law Kev. Thats what we are all saying. No exceptions and no consideration.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      11:07am | 09/11/12

      Anubis.. Agree ,but there was a story on the same thing in Australian Scouts with the claims dating back many years prior to blue-card checks etc. Unfortunatly I couldn’t find the link but will keef trying…
      fml… Possably, but who knows???

    • P. Darvio says:

      11:27am | 09/11/12

      Quote: “I do not doubt that Churches mishandled child abuse in the past”

      Another disgusting Christian apologist - a Christian Priest sticking his penis up a little boys backside is not “child abuse” – it is Child Rape – lets make that very clear.

      All Christians should be forced to watch the Lateline Interview from last so they understand what their Christian lifestyle choice has resulted in.

      That NSW Detective should be made Police Commissioner – he is a true hero exposing Christianity for what it is.

    • ausspud says:

      11:46am | 09/11/12

      It does’nt bother me if they have an investigation,but you got to ask yourself what are they going to find,It’s not like the Church will have a stack full off evidence just lying around.
      Will the Royal Commission include-Public Schools or Islam that condones child bride’s and female circumcision.
      So anyone who thinks the Church are the only ones responsible are kidding themselves.

    • Tim says:

      12:24pm | 09/11/12

      the government school system.

      How much sex abuse has gone on and been covered up by those in power?

      Nah, we’re only interested in getting the Catholic Church because we don’t like them.

    • fml says:

      01:19pm | 09/11/12


      True, it does occur there however, is the coverup as large and conspiratorial or go as high up as in the church?

    • Tim says:

      01:39pm | 09/11/12

      I would think that it was and not just in the school system but in many other government run care instituitons.
      If we’re going to have a royal commission on child abuse, then let’s not make it half arsed.

      Unfortunately I think there’s a lot of people who want a royal commission not because they necessarily want justice for victims but because they hate the Catholic Church so much (see P. Darvio).

    • AdamC says:

      02:24pm | 09/11/12

      There are a lot of comments here. I guess the most important thing to stress is that a Royal Commission is not a punitive sanction, it is a form of inquiry. Almost all the commenters here already seem to think the Church is guilty of some kind of malfeasance and that it should be punished by being the subject of a Royal Commission. That is clearly an abuse of process.

      PsychoHyena says:

      “The Church has had plenty of time to clean house (20+ years), the fact that they haven’t (including evidence that accused priests are still preaching to the flock ... “

      Can we apply the same principle to accused fraudster Craig Thomson?

      Byelection now!

    • Two Cents worth says:

      03:21pm | 09/11/12

      @ P.Darvio - how tragic it is that you would blame everyone that has a belief and a faith in Christianity, a faith following on in the footsteps of Jesus Christ.
      What these priests have done is committed a terrible sin, one that should be punishable by law and we can only commend this Police Inspector for his diligence in pursuing these “crimes”.
      For the (in this case) Catholic Church to cover this up, particularly as it has been ongoing for decades is equally as wrong, in which case those responsible must stand accountable for their actions. As all Christians believe, these people will stand the ultimate judgement in due course.
      I feel sure that you could have adequately described child rape without the descriptives but your hate of, or rage toward all Christians dictated a reason to sensationalise your post, which is disturbing to any right thinking person, Christian or not.
      I am confident that all Christians condemn these actions and do not require a lecture from someone who shows very little understanding of what Christianity is all about.
      Our “lifestyle choice” as you call it needs no approval from you as we are answerable to God and His son, Jesus Christ. If we commit crimes against others in society we are judged accordingly by the same laws as you are and pay the due penalty, whatever that may be.
      It is quite sad that yourself and others condemn something without fully understanding what it (Christianity)stands for.
      In the past there have been instances of child abuse within the Scouting movement. Do you condemn Scouts worldwide because of these incidents? Probably not!

    • SimpleSimon says:

      07:48am | 09/11/12

      I’m glad about this as well. I hope it doesn’t just crop up under a new name in a few months though.

    • TRBNGR says:

      07:50am | 09/11/12

      Surely that’s one government broken promise we can all agree on!

    • subotic says:

      08:08am | 09/11/12

      Somebody find the decision maker on that and SACK them.

      Or, if nobody is looking, clone them…..

    • TimB says:

      08:25am | 09/11/12


      @ TRBNGR, agree. Frustrating to see Bolt is using this to attack the government though. He should have let this one go through to the keeper. It was a bad policy and I’m glad it’s dead.

    • PsychoHyena says:

      09:04am | 09/11/12

      @TimB, unfortunately Bolt is representative of how the left see the right, and it’s people like him that define that side of politics, any chance to stick the boot in on a lie, although in this case it was again that situations changed, ISPs were able to block the content of major concern for the Govt and thus removed the need for the filter.

      Unless the ACL gets it’s way apparently.

    • Anubis says:

      09:11am | 09/11/12

      OK - fess up - who donned the red underpants to convince the Minister for censorship and freedom from speech that he should drop his internet filter push?

      Also, is this a Julia style annoiuncement that means they will do the exact opposite of what they say? Is he really planning to implement this and then just announce it as a fait-accompli in the Red Empresses’ Christmas Speech to the Nation?

      All the unanswered questions.

    • Philosopher says:

      09:14am | 09/11/12

      thank goodness, we can continue fapping over our keyboards without fear o’ censure!

    • Mahhrat says:

      09:29am | 09/11/12

      And yet so far nobody has come out and said this, so I will:

      Provided they don’t do a backflip, congratulations to Conroy and the ALP for actually listening to the experts and the wishes of the community.

      I’ve never understood this desire to “never ever be wrong”.  I’d much rather a human parliament that makes mistakes, admits when they do, and fixes them.

    • SamO says:

      09:47am | 09/11/12

      No need to filter the internet when they are now going to track everything we do online for two years.

    • Chris L says:

      09:59am | 09/11/12

      Huzzah indeed! Let’s be watchful to see if they’re simply trying to rebrand the idea and slip it through later.

    • TheRealDave says:

      10:03am | 09/11/12

      Its been a non-starter since the day after the election, they just formalised it. No real news here.

    • ausspud says:

      11:12am | 09/11/12

      It could just be that an election is just around the corner,so you could say that it is postponed until after the election (If they get in).
      It is only so the government can give the opposition one less thing to attack.Do you actually believe Steven Conjob or this government.

    • TimB says:

      11:36am | 09/11/12

      “And yet so far nobody has come out and said this, so I will:

      Provided they don’t do a backflip, congratulations to Conroy and the ALP for actually listening to the experts and the wishes of the community.”

      @ Mahhrat, I’d be far more willing to congratulate them had they done those things three years ago. The community and experts were telling them back then to kybosh it, and they refused.

      More likely that they’re simply trying to clear the deck of potential vote losing policies before the election. Or maybe it’s simply a cost saving excerise.

      Right decision, but I’m not going out of my way to congratulate them for doing something that should never have been necessary in the first place.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      08:03am | 09/11/12

      Hey Loddlaen, Anubis .Hows the Mo’s shapen up??? Mines still like a pre-teen but getting there… Go the three Amigo’s…. smile

    • Anubis says:

      09:08am | 09/11/12

      Starting to get some substance to it now. Although, with it being totally grey the visibility range is still only about 20 metres.

      To those wondering about the Mo talk.

      The mighty month of Movember aimed at raising funds to enable ongoing research into the causes, treatments and hopefully cures for prostate cancer and depression related illnesses. If you haven’t yet donated to the cause please do so. All donations of $2 or more are tax deductible and, if made on line, you will receive your tax receipt almost immediately by return email. You can donate through any (or all) of the Punch teams Mo Amigos (one of whom is currently fighting this insidious disease). To paraphrase an American presidential candidate - give early and give often.

      Myself -
      Loddlaen -
      pa_kelvin -

      A massive thank you to every single person who has given us a donation!

    • pa_kelvin says:

      09:24am | 09/11/12

      Hey Anubis… Mines more like 5 metres under studio lights…but still another 20 something days to go…BTW did you see my reply to your question yesterday re my scans??

    • Anubis says:

      10:40am | 09/11/12

      Saw that Kelvin. Any news back on the results yet?

    • pa_kelvin says:

      11:13am | 09/11/12

      Anubis… 1.20 this arvo. Be leaving in an hour or so… I will post on this thread when I get back…...

    • pa_kelvin says:

      12:11pm | 09/11/12

      Anubis my last comment got gobbled….. I’m leaving now for the specialist, will post results when I get back in a couple of hours…

    • pa_kelvin says:

      03:03pm | 09/11/12

      I’m back from the specialist….. The good news is that the scans show no new tumors or spreading to other areas…. The bad news is that my PSA count is still going up….. Nett result, I dont need Chemo now, but it will happen sooner rather than later . :(
      A desision on Chemo will be made after further PSA tests next month…

    • Mouse says:

      06:40pm | 09/11/12

      pa_kelvin, Great to hear no new tumours or metastasis YAAAY!  I have been waiting with baited breath for the results!
      Don’t be too concerned about the chemo, it’s not all bad and the outcome is more often than not better than not having it.  So hang tough Big Amigo, you’ll take it in your stride and wonder what all the fuss was about! ;o)

      I did check out your 3 grandsons yesterday, what cuties! They must take after their Grandma then!  *giggle* Loved their “mo’s”  and good to see that they are in this with you, the more the merrier! I did reply yesterday but it seems to have been lost somewhere in the blue nowhere, where many posts seem to end up!! ..... Keep up the good work

    • Knemon says:

      11:21am | 09/11/12

      “All Sri Lankans should be sent back as they are not true refugees”

      Says who? pa_kelvin?

    • pa_kelvin says:

      03:09pm | 09/11/12

      Knemon…. The civil unrest (war?) finished in Sri Lanka several years ago.
      The Sri Lankans arriving here by boat are not fleeing their country due to war, but, more for a better life in Australia

    • che says:

      09:04am | 09/11/12

      Went late night shopping last night and it turned out very exciting, the cops were arresting some bikie across the road, it was like an episode of Cops. He was with a woman, what’s the bet she is the same one he bashed in public, which is what he was being arrested for? I may be wrong, but I may be right.

    • TheRealDave says:

      10:05am | 09/11/12

      5’ll get you 10 there che….

    • James1 says:

      09:21am | 09/11/12

      I’m pretty sure that some minds on The Punch have been broken by the US election result.  Yesterday, I made a post on Tory’s article where I was highly supportive of Tony Abbott, and yet Louise saw fit to call me a “leftist” in response.  Very odd.

      In light of this, I thought it might be a good idea to offer my fellow conservatives some words of comfort, so here they are:

      Keep in mind, it’s only four years, it will be over soon.  Also keep in mind, American voters don’t tend to keep the same party in power for successive presidents - the last time that happened was when GHW Bush won after Reagan’s second term.  We can be almost certain that the American voters will choose a Republican next time, don’t worry.  This mess will sort itself out soon enough, never fear.

    • Tim says:

      10:18am | 09/11/12

      James 1,
      I don’t know why Australian conservatives would be so upset with Obama winning?

      He’s probably more conservative than Tony Abbott on most issues.

    • simonfromlakemba says:

      10:22am | 09/11/12

      Unless the Republicans put up Rubio/Christie combo it’s going to be interesting.

      They are still filled with the same backwards, white evangelist conservatives that they are now that still make stupid comments about rape, guns, abortion etc.

      Unless they get with the times its going to be lean years for them.

    • Chris L says:

      10:22am | 09/11/12

      Don’t mind the zombies James. If you don’t conform to the expected thought patterns you must be the enemy.

      It’s easier to call you names than to actually think about what you’re saying.

    • KK says:

      11:45am | 09/11/12

      @James - in america the wings are reversed actually (it may have been an american posting against you?) 

      Labour would be considered right (in the states) and Liberal left…just goes to show that the “wing” argument is cyclical anyways, the more extreme you go left or right, the closer you are the views of your opposing wing.

    • JimmyMac says:

      11:59am | 09/11/12

      Which mess are you talking about? Do you mean the GFC which was building during the Bush administration and Obama just happenned to take office as it fell apart??

    • Tim says:

      12:08pm | 09/11/12

      What you just posted is completely incorrect.

    • Evalee says:

      09:53am | 09/11/12

      pet pee-ve of the day….ladies, I know you don’t want your precious bottoms to touch a public toilet seat but if you must hover, and make a mess whilst doing so, please clean up after yourself.  Disgusting and inconsiderate to leave it for the next person!!!

    • che says:

      10:13am | 09/11/12

      I agree, women’s toilets are usually filthy, I also find lots of women have trouble flushing. And washing hands. The list could go on and on.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      10:23am | 09/11/12

      Who in their right mind uses public tiolets???

    • Hey dude says:

      10:35am | 09/11/12

      erm che…as you seem to be female (from the comment here) or perhaps male that uses female toilets?...I just wanted to let you know “che” means “man” or “boy/dude” like “hey man/hey dude”....just thought you might find that useful…slang sort of greeting for a man…

    • Chris L says:

      10:58am | 09/11/12

      @pa_kelvin - I am a man, the world is my toilet!

    • ausspud says:

      11:18am | 09/11/12

      Great,Now I cant get the picture of a waterfall out of my head.

    • che on my birth certificate soon to be a more girl says:

      11:20am | 09/11/12

      Hey dude, I apologise for what my parents named me, if it offends you I shall take it up with my mother. I am not the only female Che that I know either, I will make sure they have their names changed immediately and thankyou for the kind advice.

    • Knemon says:

      11:41am | 09/11/12

      A friend of mine owned a night club, one Sunday morning he showed me the toilets to compare them, I will never forget the state of the ladies toilet, it was truly filthy, faeces and blood on the walls, tampons lying around, lipstick graffiti everywhere, and the stench was unbelievable…we then compared the mens toilets…near spotless. As I said, it was an eye-opener that I will never forget, and I’ve never understood why.

    • AFR says:

      11:57am | 09/11/12

      Never understood the “hovering” thing. Just wipe the seat and sit down.

    • Zac says:

      12:07pm | 09/11/12


      Not surprising… check this video out:

      “Australia has become a misandrist nation, as well as women drinking hard almost every night. They appear to be the “new” men and the men the new “women”.

    • che says:

      01:12pm | 09/11/12

      zac, I always thought it was just because women spend more time in there than men do, but what do I know?

    • Hey dude says:

      01:45pm | 09/11/12

      @Che - all good, doesn’t affect me really, but not many (or are they?) are aware that Che (the revolutionary) was nicknamed ‘Che’ because he was very laid back and would be greeted that way and then it sort of just became his nickname (His real name was Ernesto)...I am assuming your parents liked his revolutionary nature and named you after him?  But hopefully should interest you about your names origin wink

      It’s argentinian I believe in origin

    • pa_kelvin says:

      10:24am | 09/11/12

      And I seen what you done with pee-ve .... smile

    • che says:

      10:33am | 09/11/12

      I use them pa, because I travel a lot and don’t particularly like just squatting on the side of the road, call me crazy.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      10:53am | 09/11/12

      The side of the road sounds better than a public tiolet, but then I dont need to squat…. smile

    • che says:

      12:16pm | 09/11/12

      I always get beeped at when I squat on the side of the road smile

    • TrevorA says:

      11:01am | 09/11/12

      Has Abbott left the country. I have not seen his inane remarks for days now.

      Yup I know that SKY, 10 and 9 will post a news item if he has a pie , chocaclate frog, but it is un nerving that he has disappeared.

      Roll on Julie Bishop you are coming into form at the right time.

    • fml says:

      12:28pm | 09/11/12

      That’s probably why channel 9 is going out of business…

    • simonfromlakemba says:

      12:38pm | 09/11/12

      He was on the Today Show this morning making a usual twit of himself.

      ‘arhm, um arhm’

    • PJ says:

      12:23pm | 09/11/12

      Getting a way with murder, the Gillard Governments MRRT and Carbon taxes have seen off another $7.5 billion dollars worth of Mining. Mitsibushi have sacked all their Aussie workers. This follows similar action by BHP and Fortesce, as the market is KO’d by Gillard Government taxes at a time when Commodity prices are not favourable.

      Enjoy our Mining Boom Africa and the triple aid we gave you for a two year Ego trip on the UN.

    • TheRealDave says:

      01:13pm | 09/11/12

      Spot on PJ - nothing at all to do with the lower worldwide price on coal and other commodities. Nothing at all. Its totally the fault of the tax no-one has had to pay.

    • Chris L says:

      04:00pm | 09/11/12

      Now “murder” has a new definition.

    • PJ says:

      04:37pm | 09/11/12

      The MRRT tax is locked in post CAPEX clearance at 30 percent. This cost applies to all.

      The energy for mining operations is 80 percent coal. That’s another 15 percent on operations costs.

      Australia is the most expensive country in the world to mine thanks to the Gillard Government.

      Commodity prices only? How do you explain Africa in 2012:

      Minus 16.8 percent to Plus 32 percent growth using the same commodity price.

      Reported by Bloomberg.

    • Zac says:

      01:35pm | 09/11/12

      All the secular world has on for women is, “sexual objectification”.........

      “It’s pure sexism to say that a man can’t defend himself when attacked by a drunken doll who doesn’t mind objectifying her own female body in that small, tight dress, as she rolls around on the ground like some? wild animal bearing her ass through her almost non-existent clothes.

      And imagine the reaction of the crowd had that man actually punched her back - he would have been apprehended and vilified.

      Society is backward.”

    • Knemon says:

      03:00pm | 09/11/12

      @ Zac - I’m not sure society is backward because one drunken bogan Sheila can’t handle her grog intake….mind you, she reminds me of most of the women I’ve ever dated!

    • Sean-R says:

      03:54pm | 09/11/12

      Clipsal have just announced Motley Crue and KISS are playing on the Sunday, the day before is Soundwave (Metallica headlining)...KISS, Motley Crue, Metallica playing in ADELAIDE on the same weekend, all we need now are Bon Jovi, Guns N Roses and Akka Dakka…BOGANS ASSEMBLE!!

    • sunny says:

      05:53pm | 09/11/12

      Do you think the ‘Crue’ will play Kickstart My Heart? and does a bear shit in the woods? ..the bear might rather ‘hover’ over a public toilet seat smile

      Kiss would be worth seeing if they played some of their old stuff ..and had some of their old magic

      All the victims I have turned to stone, no one is happy, they’re all alone
      I’ve sacrificed my social position tonight
      Adelaide, millionaires, lonely people with lonely stares
      I’m not looking for love and I’m lost in this night
      In the naked city

    • fair dinkum cobber says:

      06:04pm | 09/11/12

      Today is the real 9/11


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