Punch on: Open thread 05/10/2011

S.L says:

07:01am | 05/10/11

Watch it now Neslihan! Let’s see how many replies you get about “what is real football” from our aerial ping pong loving friends?

TChong says:

07:31am | 05/10/11

NK
“Obsession” about AFL, ARL , Cricket, and maybe ARU is acceptable comment.
American football ? crap game, requiring 2 different teams to play one game.
Soccer isnt football, its wogball - played by girly fellas who are too scared to take a tackle..= they trip over then roll around the ground screaming, - pathetic stuff.
Just remember the natural order- AFL and/or ARL, Cricket in summer, ,and as for soccer - least said , the better.

Mahhrat says:

08:33am | 05/10/11

@TChong, your use of “wog ball” is not ameliorated by the fact that you don’t like it.  You wouldn’t call a boomerang-throwing compeition “Abo Sport” or some nonsensical bullshit, so knock off the racism.

While I’m at it, if purists want us to use the term “Australian Rules” for AFL (because let’s face it, what gets played on the big screen is far, far removed from the seagull-chasing-chip nonsense that is regional “footy”, the proper term for “Soccer” is “Association Football”

Now I’ve got my pedant on, the whole idea that Association Football has it wrong was put to bed by Scully when he signed with Gold Coast for $5 million.  The only reason - the ONLY reason - Aussie Rules players aren’t playing football and diving all over the place is because they can’t make what Harry Kewell made.

AFL is a great game.  AFL’s second tier, the WAFL/VFL/SAFL, is barely watchable.  The rest of it is a nonsensical run around a park with a bunch of drunk idiots leaning on horns.

TChong says:

08:49am | 05/10/11

Mahhrat - “wogball”  tongue in cheek , as in over the top comment.
Self parody as I am anglo aussie. 
My entry should read 2 teams , “offence,+ defence” to make up one side.

acotrel says:

09:10am | 05/10/11

’  It is not so much about winning or losing, but all about how we play the game.’

You got it rong !

It’s not how you play the game, but how you win, that counts !

I like watching netball better than footy.  I’m not interested in watching men pat each other on the bum, when they do a good job of fumbling the ball.  They probably have the footy up in big flat screen TVs in the pubs in Oxford Street ?

neo says:

10:35am | 05/10/11

You can say what you want, but many countries in the world don’t even know what cricket is.

AFL is pretty much Australia only.

So we’re left with Rugby, which is sorta picking up worldwide, but I doubt it will ever come even close to the World Game.

Football (soccer) is the biggest sport in the world, and will always be. The only other sport I can think of that comes close in being fun to watch is ice hockey. Both games are fast paced and unpredictable, a shot at goal on one side of the field is often followed by a shot at goal on the opposite side. This is something the slower sports such as rugby, and nfl simply cannot achieve, they are slow paced, almost turn based, which is quite a bore. AFL would probably be the best contender here, but it’s just not football

Remember, Wold Game, can’t argue with that.

Aitch B says:

12:21pm | 05/10/11

@neo

Certainly can’t argue with soccer being the “Wold Game”.

Does that mean that the “World Game” is still up for grabs?

neo says:

01:15pm | 05/10/11

Association Football is the World Game, the one and only.

Keyboard malfunction is no laughing matter!

Shane* says:

01:25pm | 05/10/11

@Neo

“Football (soccer) is the biggest sport in the world, and will always be.”

I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Unless football can address some of the major issues (diving, corruption, arrogance at head office) it might find itself falling to #2.

Ridiculous you say? Well a billion or so basketball-mad Chinese might beg to differ. We’re one South American basketball superstar away from a changing of the guard.

neo says:

02:33pm | 05/10/11

Basketball is probably the only sport that could, but even looking at the sizes of basketball stadiums, they are so tiny compared to football stadiums.

Thing is, basketball is pretty popular in all the countries where football is popular, both sports have been out there for a while, and football is the clear winner. So far and always

I don’t mind basketball either, but again, it is a bit turn based and predictable. Nothing can get your emotions going like a good old unpredictable football match.

Aitch B says:

02:46pm | 05/10/11

@neo

“Nothing can get your emotions going like a good old unpredictable football match.”

And many would argue that nothing puts you to sleep like a football match. Unfortunately not all matches are emotionally uplifting Two sides playing defensive rubbish ending in a nil all draw is hardly anything to get excited about.

neo says:

03:34pm | 05/10/11

Agreed! More often than not though, the match will deliver. You get the odd boring one, although I haven’t seen one of those for a while now and I’ve been watching quite a few Champs League and Premier League matches recently.

S.L says:

07:03am | 05/10/11

Keep us posted Tim. GO THE WOBBLIES!

Shane* says:

08:05am | 05/10/11

They would’ve prefered to play the Aussies!

Caption: Much like the Daffodil in Winter, the Welsh wilted under the dominant Irish scrum.

Seanr says:

11:57am | 05/10/11

Shane* gets my vote for capiton of the day so far.

Should be some great games this weekend, Ireland v Wales and Wallabies in particular

iMitchy says:

04:31pm | 05/10/11

I’m going to the foozball! - be careful not to paint over my perfectly shaped lips and eyebrows…

SimonFromLakemba says:

08:45am | 05/10/11

The way him and his brother carry on make me sick, its so over the top. What you said is correct, he got drunk at an official function when he was face of the game.

But then again, when arnt Manly whinging about something?

Petulance in its purest form.

gobsmack says:

09:19am | 05/10/11

LOL.  Sounds like he was off his face.

Anubis says:

08:44am | 05/10/11

@ TimB - and don’t forget the corruption Inquiry at the Reserve Bank over Securency bribes. Seems members of the Board of the bank DID know about the corrupt activities, even though the Governor has consistently denied it.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/rba-officials-hid-details-of-secret-commissions-20111004-1l7db.html

SimonFromLakemba says:

08:49am | 05/10/11

I dont think it’ll ever go away, just stinks to much, something isnt right

Aitch B says:

09:01am | 05/10/11

Har!! Like it…......

Knemon says:

06:52pm | 05/10/11

Mahhrat - Best caption IMO but sadly I’m not the judge.

Elphaba says:

08:27am | 05/10/11

Oh, come on.  Your taxes are going to fund stuff you don’t like.  That’s just life.  Personally, I don’t believe my taxes should be funding people who breed, but I live in a society and I need to suck it up.

And yes, I’m more than happy for my taxes to go towards this kind of stuff.  But that’s just me.

TimB says:

08:38am | 05/10/11

No. Not a chance. Exactly how does this contribute to society?

There are some seriously skewed priorities when it comes to handing out taxpayers money.

AdamC says:

08:41am | 05/10/11

Elphaba, I’m with Adam Diver here. This is like the kind of arts grant you would make up as a joke.

In my view, governments should not fund arts, sports and the like. People should be expected to pay for their own entertainment and cultural activities.

Elphaba says:

09:01am | 05/10/11

@AdamC, we disagree.  That a-ok.   I have no problem with money going to the arts.

TimB says:

09:18am | 05/10/11

Elphaba, thinking about the issue a little more, I think the whole idea behind arts grants is that the art in question is supposed to inject money into the economy through the patronage it attracts (tourists and what have you). Same rationale behind the funding of sports stadiums.

So the question becomes would the above ‘art’ do that, at least to the extent that would justify the taxpayer expense? I wouldn’t think so (although I freely admit I have nothing but my opinion to base that off).  But I honestly can’t see huge droves of people descending on this exhibition.

It’d be like building a state of the art polo field. Not enough people give a damn to make it worthwhile.

iansand says:

09:40am | 05/10/11

What sort of art is acceptable for grants?  Dogs playing poker?  Horses on beaches at sunset?

In the immortal words of Andy Warhol - “Art is what you can get away with”.

Elphaba says:

09:52am | 05/10/11

@TimB, all valid points.  Look, I’m an art lover.  I say give it money.  It’s just my opinion, and like I said, our taxes are going to be spent in ways we don’t like.  We have to accept, as people living as a whole, that things happen every day that we don’t like.

I can’t rationalise why I like art.  Well, I can try.  I admire people with creative talent - I’m in awe of them.  And yeah, there is some shit out there that is uuuuuuugly - but it’s artistic expression and I think it makes the world a better place.

I’m a bit of a hipster at heart sometimes, and I’m ok with it.

Adam Diver says:

11:27am | 05/10/11

I was writing a response how culture is important, and art is a way to manifest culture for current and future generations etc etc etc. But I can’t see why we need to set up a federal government to levy taxes to pay a select few to produce “art” that is relevant to very few people.

Essentially Elphaba, to convince me otherwise, you need to explain 1) why art can’t continue without other peoples money and 2) want broad benefit it provides to the comunity. Whilst I may concede musuems may be an acceptable part of tax payer funding (although not a priority), the example above seems beyond the pale.

Regardless, how much does it cost to make some paintings and provide a tour? Why can’t the artist use there own damn money?

Elphaba says:

11:37am | 05/10/11

But Adam, I’m not interested in convincing you.  I don’t care whether your opinion is different to mine.  So long as your opinion means something to you, that’s all that matters.  I listened to your opinion, and I gave you a response.  I’m not trying to get you to agree with me.

ausspud says:

12:08pm | 05/10/11

Artists are nothing but dole bludgers with a hobby
@Adam Diver- I expect pics(female only)

Adam Diver says:

01:00pm | 05/10/11

“So long as your opinion means something to you, that’s all that matters”

Not really. My opinion is only as good as the process I take to get there. Opinions are worthless without the scrutiny of debate.

Elphaba says:

01:29pm | 05/10/11

@Adam, fine then.  I don’t feel like a debate.

Cheers.

Knemon says:

11:17am | 05/10/11

I can’t think of another Australian with a bigger ego than that of Andrew Bolt, the only person that would get close is Tony Abbott. My definition of hell would be dining out with both.

Adam Diver says:

11:30am | 05/10/11

Manne, Rudd, Flannery, Turnbull

Just balancing the ledger, plus I seriously don’t think Abbott has much of an Ego.

Also since we are being accurate, how many times has your vote actually swung? I doubt any swinging voter would have such contempt for a fairly mailigned conservative.

Swinging Voter says:

11:52am | 05/10/11

If I’m going to be accurate, I’d say it swung once.

I used to be a coalition voter till Abbott started leading the Liberal party. Never voted against Howard. Needless to say I voted Labor last election and don’t regret it at all.

I hate populist rubbish and simplification of complicated issues and I seversely displike partisan political games. That makes me not a huge fan of either Bolt or Abbott.

But Bolt is a symptom of the real problem with politics in Australia imo- irresponsible media which utterly fails to regulate its own inaccuracies. This breeds politicians who are interested in pandering to that type of coverage, which gives us our current level of debate.

I make no secret of the fact that I enjoyed the ruling. Alot.

AdamC says:

11:58am | 05/10/11

Adam Diver, not to re-open yesterday’s “security blanket” discussion, but I was kind of thinking that Swinging Voter was a pseudonym of The Badger.

My apologies, Swinging Voter, if I have got it all wrong.

Adam Diver says:

12:55pm | 05/10/11

Politics is a tough environment for you, I would say.

“I hate populist rubbish and simplification of complicated issues and I seversely displike partisan political games”

That would nail pretty much everyone in parliament, so its more possible that its something else that you dislike about Abbott.

“I make no secret of the fact that I enjoyed the ruling. Alot”, so petty vendettas trump national interest I see. Sounds an awful lot like the politicians in which you despise. If Bolt deserved to learn a lesson it was through defamation channels.

Swinging Voter says:

01:37pm | 05/10/11

“I was kind of thinking that Swinging Voter was a pseudonym of The Badger”

I’ve only ever used this pseudonym to post under, both on the Punch and Andrew Bolt’s Blog. I regularly attempt to provide some factual balance to his one sided accounts of many issues, particualrly legal ones (I’m a lawyer). End conspiracy theories and discuss issue pls.

“That would nail pretty much everyone in parliament”

To a certain degree i agree, but my distaste for Abbott is due to his taking it to an entirely new level. I find Gillard to be comparatively extremely believable and genuine. And that’s saying something.

“so petty vendettas trump national interest”

Shoddy journalism getting what shoddy journalism deserves IS something that makes me feel good. Sorry bout that. I mean, this is quoted from paragraph 384 of the judgment:

“The deficiencies to which I have referred to so far, are material and constitute a significant distortion of the facts upon which a central part of the offensive imputations were based. On the basis of those deficiencies, I am satisfied that the offensive imputation was not a fair comment and that s 18D(c)(ii) is not available to exempt the offensive conduct from being rendered unlawful”

The liar lost freedom of speech exemption for lying to attack people’s right to identify. Justice done, wrong righted, liar hoisted on his own petard.

All things which I enjoy.

palone says:

12:18pm | 05/10/11

Stamen? Do you know the reproductive act of a ‘stamen’? Now that is cute!

Elphaba says:

10:08am | 05/10/11

Any person who gets pregnant is doing it for themselves.  It’s innately selfish.  Just as selfish is the decision to not have them.  We have kids because we want them, not for the good of the nation.

This guy is a moron.  By his logic, I should have had babies with my high school boyfriend, or the abusive jerk I dated in my early 20s.  They were highly unsuitable as father material, and I would have been a rubbish mother but hey - my uterus was fertile soil!  Go nuts!

He’s an idiot.  We live longer, we have our babies later.  Age is not the only determing factor in what makes a good parent.

jay-ded says:

10:35am | 05/10/11

Partners who want to have no financial burdens before having children - what is wrong with that?  I’d rather children be brought up in that environment than a single mum having 6 kids, living off tax payers money with the kids probably being ignored and having to bring themselves up.  I agree with Elphaba, the guy’s a moron.

neo says:

10:39am | 05/10/11

The longer you hold off having kids, the less healthy will the child be. Fact. Feminists v nature, nature will always win. 20-25 is the ideal age for conceiving.

Mahhrat says:

10:44am | 05/10/11

Thank you, Elphaba!  I’ve been waiting for people to cotton on to this for years now.

Having kids is the single most selfish thing we ever do.  That doesn’t make it wrong, it just makes it selfish.

The problem with society is that they think all selfishness is bad.  It’s not!

Shane* says:

10:59am | 05/10/11

My folks had me very late. I had the ‘I’m physically stronger than my dad and better than him at sport’ realisation at 13. That was cool at the time but looking back it’s far from ideal.

If you’re waiting for a time when you’re perfectly financially secure to have kids, you’ll die waiting. If you’re waiting for a time when your career is stable, you’ll die waiting. And if you have this realisation too late and try at 40+, you’re in for a world of complications (health and lifestyle).

I’m 25. I hope I have kids by the time I’m 30.

Elphaba says:

11:02am | 05/10/11

Mahhrat, yes!  The word selfish has neither a negative nor positive connotation, it all comes down to the individual.

Look, I get what the doctor is saying.  Having babies when we’re young and healthy means that the child is healthy, women bounce back from childbirth easier, and both parents are young and active (hopefully) to cope with the demands of raising the child to adulthood.

But he’s living in a fantasy land.  Just because a woman is 20-25 doesn’t mean she should just have children now because she’s in the right stage biologically.  What if she hasn’t got the finances? What if she or her partner are an unstable crackhead?  What if their lifestyle choices are seting them up for chronic ill health later in life?

There are more factors to consider than simply how old one is, when it comes to having kids.  I personally am not sold on the idea of children for myself, and that’s my decision.  Yes it’s selfish.  Huzzah!  But if 40 year old mums & dads want to do it, and they have the time, and the finances, and the dedication to raise a healthy, functioning member of our society, I say go for it.

Elphaba says:

11:19am | 05/10/11

@Shane - still got to meet the right person to have them with!  And that’s something we have far less control over…

fairsfair says:

11:49am | 05/10/11

My mum is a nurse (once midwife) and they are termed “geriatric mothers”. Doctors refer to them as that in front of them, and it never goes down well.  It is the harsh truth, that people need to accept. It is not ideal to have kids so late in life and I think this man was refering only to women who CHOOSE to wait until that time for financial/personal/career reasons. I think that is selfish yes.

If for whatever reasons, you end up having a baby at that age, good luck to you. But I don’t think it is right to promote having children so late in life for “economical” reasons when it is horrifically draining on the mother and has later repercussions on the child. My daytime TV viewing today has seen so many “Mum’s panels” on Kerryanne reasoning this man to be an idiot. You keep telling yourselves whatever you need to ladies - but you can see right through it.

I am the youngest child of youngest children (both “change of life babies”) from big families (again, not the type of circumstances I think this Dr was talking about). So my Grandmas were 40 when they had parents and my Grandad’s were both 50 (coincidentally, my parents are also 10 years apart). Both my Grandads had died when my parents had me. I am 26 and if my paternal grandad was alive today he would be 113. Does that now blow your mind - it does mine. I am the absolute youngest of my generation on both sides of the family though, this would be hard to grapple with if I was an oldest child, or an only child.

Shane* says:

11:53am | 05/10/11

@ Elphaba,

Done and done.

iMitchy says:

12:26pm | 05/10/11

We decided to have all our kids in our early 20’s so that by the time we are coming into our peak earning potential and have built a stable asset base and put a good dent in the mortgage, the kids will be just leaving home and we will have the money and the time to travel and enjoy ourselves, as all of our friends are doing now (on a tight budget).
So it can be selfish to have kids young too.
The twins are due in April and then I’m getting the snip.
I hope they bulk bill at the clinic…

S.L says:

12:30pm | 05/10/11

@ fairsfair and Elphaba my kids mum was 46 when our youngest was born (natural conception and birth). Selfish?

Elphaba says:

01:01pm | 05/10/11

@Shane - and that’s great - but saying to single people who want children “you really need to get on that - what are you, 28?”, is wildly depressing and unhelpful.

I’ve watched friends have to deal with that.  It’s awful.

Elphaba says:

01:08pm | 05/10/11

@Shane - and that’s great - but saying to single people who want children “you really need to get on that - what are you, 28?”, is wildly depressing and unhelpful.

It’s also what would help contribute to our spectacularly awful 50% divorce rate.  People being scare shitless into marriage by doctors telling them their eggs are drying up.  Then we have kids from broken homes.  Awesome.

I think perspective can get lost in this debate.  If you’re on your wa to having kids when you’re 30, good on you.  I don’t think people in their 40s doing it should be demonised.

Elphaba says:

01:20pm | 05/10/11

Oh crap… my comment is going to appear twice…

Stupid error message!

neo says:

01:23pm | 05/10/11

Geriatric mum indeed. Some countries class everyone after 24 as a geriatric mum. What’s the cut off in Oz?

I have memories of my great grandparents, something I cherish dearly. Unfortunately, my grandparents on my mum’s side are not with us anymore, so my kids will never know them :(

Elphaba says:

01:28pm | 05/10/11

@S.L.

Read what I have said today.  Read what Mahhrat said for further understanding.  When we have children, it is selfish.  When we don’t have them, it is selfish.  We do it for ourselves - not for a greater good.

Being selfish is not a bad thing.  It’s all in the spin.  It’s an essential human trait and should not be demonised.

Understand?

S.L says:

01:57pm | 05/10/11

@Elphaba get off your inner city trendoid inspired high horse!
I was agreeing with you Einstien!

fairsfair says:

02:02pm | 05/10/11

@SL - no not selfish.

Like I said, I only think it selfish for women who purposely leave starting a family until they have achieved A,B,C. I think this is what the Dr meant by his comments also. Its not ideal.

If you don’t meet someone until that stage of your life, its an accident, you’ve been trying for ten years, its your tenth kid - different story even though still not ideal.

Elphaba says:

02:11pm | 05/10/11

@S.L, it sure as hell looked like you were asking a question.  Maybe you want to be clearer when writing.

I don’t live in the inner city, and I’m hardly a trend follower - but please, if name-calling makes you feel better, go nuts.  Water off a duck’s back and all that.

Elphaba says:

10:02am | 05/10/11

I went there when I was a kid.  Don’t leave any food lying around because the dingos will get it!

Do they still do the 4WD bus tours on the beach?  THEY were awesome.

Have a great holiday!

Aitch B says:

10:07am | 05/10/11

@Jade

Surely you’re taking a bucket and spade? Make sandcastles!

Or perhaps do some dingo chasing?

Jade says:

10:28am | 05/10/11

hhm a bucket and a spade… that’s sounds like a great idea! I will make the best damn sandcastle ever! haha

I don’t know if they do Elphaba, we’re staying at one of the resorts there so they should have info on things to do as well… hopefully! lol

ausspud says:

12:18pm | 05/10/11

@Jade
Skiing/Absailing
Snorkelling
Rooting
Do a re-enactment of “the dingo stole my baby”(using doll)
Just lie down on the beach @ do sweet FA

iansand says:

12:24pm | 05/10/11

How long for, and will you have a 4WD?

The inland lakes are beautiful.  Creeks like Eli Creek are gorgeous - even sandy bottoms with overhanging vegetation. http://www.flickr.com/photos/iansand/4220680508/

Maheno shipwreck is interesting.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iansand/4216487843/in/photostream/

Dingos http://www.flickr.com/photos/iansand/4217259122/in/photostream/

The visitor centre in the middle is interesting - take a walk and marvel what can grow on sand.

Jade says:

01:45pm | 05/10/11

Lol the dingo stole my baby… I said that to the OH and he just laughed at me!

@ iansand, yeah we have a 4WD… will be going for 4 nights… so have about 4 days to play with!

Snorkling sounds great.. hopefully the sharks stay away though! lol

iansand says:

02:07pm | 05/10/11

Jade - Then head north up the beach.  Choose your tide and be careful driving - a lot of people roll when they drive too fast through waves and creeks.  Drive sensibly.

I’m not sure how good snorkelling would be.  It is a sand island, so no rocks, weed, coral etc.

Elphaba says:

10:46am | 05/10/11

Fairs did it!! 

It’s great, isn’t it?  Did you check out STFU believers?

http://stfubelievers.tumblr.com/

fairsfair says:

11:03am | 05/10/11

Someone else has posted it a couple times before. I have been looking at it for a couple years. It is so funny. Daytime TV is depressing me. Most of the interviews on the morning shows are just telling mothers how descriminated against they are (I think it is on the back of that Perth doctor saying old boiler mothers are selfish…).

Unbearable. I can’t reach the remote.

JC says:

12:52pm | 05/10/11

I had a look at STFU believers.

Sorry to be such a downer but websites like that are why I don’t like to put myself in the same group as atheists.

So what if you don’t believe in God, you don’t need to put it on a T-shirt.

Sorry,again.

Elphaba says:

01:05pm | 05/10/11

@JC,

I certainly don’t believe all Christians are like this, just as I don’t believe all parents are like the ones on the STFU Parents blog.

But it is a humorous site where there’s a collection of some of the more outrageous things people post on FB.

I have not lumped all people in the same basket.  Shame you can’t do the same.

JC says:

01:56pm | 05/10/11

@ Elphaba

I only looked at a couple of pages worth but I only saw 1 outrageous remark (about women should take the beatings from men until the man changes). 

But most of what I saw was things like “thank Jesus for my low car payment!” with the moderator writing underneath it “Jesus sells cars?”, why is someone so silly for thanking Jesus?.

Which makes me think the website isn’t for what you mentioned but for desperate attempts to make fun of christians, like how I hate Ian hewitson and his stupid “Hueys cooking adventures” or whatever, if Hueys adds even just 1 nob of butter to what he is cooking I immediately think “Oh there goes fat Huey with his fatty food, man I hate this show”, irrational I know.

Anyway not sure why I’m so unhappy with that website, normal me would ignore it and move on.
Also, I havn’t put ALL people in the same basket, just Atheists

Elphaba says:

02:16pm | 05/10/11

@JC,

Then if it offends you, don’t read it.  And you know what I mean - if militant Christians want to wear God on a tshirt, then it’s the least a militant atheist can do.  No one has got dibs on being a sanctimonious prick - both sides are completely guilty.  Let them have at it.  Just don’t watch if you don’t like it.

Rowdy says:

02:22pm | 05/10/11

Good site….....Try this one….ALWAYS funny!!!

http://www.lamebook.com/

Some people are just….well….funny….

Elphaba says:

02:32pm | 05/10/11

@Rowdy, I have looked at Lame Book and Failbook before, alas, they are blocked at work. :(  I reckon it won’t be long before STFU gets taken as well.

However yes - they are fantastic.

fairsfair says:

11:06am | 05/10/11

OOh and the new financial year signals the annual arrival of J A S O N. Lucky Jason doesn’t hang around for Christmas….

Aussie Battler says:

10:53am | 05/10/11

Ditto ff, been off for two days now, damn daytime television is crap :-(

Jade says:

11:13am | 05/10/11

I was off sick on Monday and know exactly what you mean! I was dying of boredom so went and did filing and sorted out my wardrobe! lol

I really want one of those new ab machine things they are flogging at the moment though

TimB says:

11:21am | 05/10/11

You need to invest in a DVD collection Fairs. Pick your favourite TV shows and go nuts.

S.L says:

01:12pm | 05/10/11

What about Randy Coutoure and his gym that hangs off a door with “200lbs of explosive resistance?
Lets go princess!!!!!!!!

fairsfair says:

01:26pm | 05/10/11

Lol at that door gym. “Body by Jake”....

OMG - The Genie Bra has just come on…..... its main difference, it has pad inserts for a youthful lift…. (why not just wear an actual bra?). Those bras are gross and are contributing toward the unbrearable epidemic that is “uniboob”. Where is the article on uniboob punch? Its horrific and is sweeping the nation

Jade says:

01:41pm | 05/10/11

But with the aah bra and Genie Bra you don’t have to worry about… bra’s that don’t fit, that unsightly back fat, uncomfortable bra’s…. dadadadada :D

Do you mean, the.. “you gotta door, you gotta gym”

Anubis says:

01:43pm | 05/10/11

@ fairsfair - is that a cousin of unibomber?

BTW: Sorry you are sick .....Aaaaaaaw… get better soon :o We need an Esply Baps update

Seanr says:

02:59pm | 05/10/11

@Anubis…overcast day here in fnq, walked down the Esplanade and no ‘baps’ were out..

get well ff. I found having two toddlers always helps me recover quickly from an illness…it’s more peaceful at work

Anubis says:

01:10pm | 05/10/11

So are Triffids - but what’s that got to do with anything?

Just putting it out there.