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David Koch is to be the new president of Port Adelaide AFL club.

Do they ever not go anywhere together?

This Puncher imagines he’ll be able to bring a plethora of skills to the club. Finance nerdery, a pleasant morning mood, hailing from a city that thumped the rest of the league…

It’s Tuesday. What’s on your minds?

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    • thatmosis says:

      06:53am | 02/10/12

      So now the Labor Federal Labor almost Government is going to allow gay people to have paid Maternity leave as well. More Tax Payers money thrown away on needless payments to people who really don’t deserve it.
        If people want Maternity leave let them pay for it themselves or go without, why should the Tax payers of Australia subsidise those that make a personal decision to have/ adopt a baby. Its their decision and should only be made if they can afford it and not expect to be paid for their personal decision by others.
        It should be made compulsory for each and every person working to pay into a fund, like a superannuation fund, that would be used to pay for Maternity leave when needed. If the couple decide to have a baby the fund would pay for the Maternity leave. Of course there would have to be a waiting period of about 5 years before the people would be eligible for this money and when they go back to work as they mostly do they continue to pay into the fund and if not used by retirement at 67 it would be returned to the people as part of their superannuation payments.
        That way its user pays and nobody would be out of pocket especially the poor Tax payer who is expected to subsidise nearly every personal decision of others. This largess by the almost Government once again shows that they think money will buy them votes as they splash our money around willy nilly.

      Reply

    • Mahhrat says:

      07:31am | 02/10/12

      Because it’s those “babies” that will be supporting you in retirement, just as your tax dollar supports those who came before you.

      Now, there’s a very valid “generational poverty” argument to be had, but to suggest you are a success all on your own is nonsensical Randism. 

      Logically your argument might make sense, but we aren’t Vulcan.

    • Tim says:

      08:21am | 02/10/12

      Mahhrat,
      The ‘kids will be paying for your retirement’ argument is just complete nonsense.
      Sure the state helped me get where I am today by providing money for my health, education and other public services but not by giving my parents money so they can keep their pre baby lifestyle.

      There may be an argument for some assistance to parents but the amount has gotten way out of hand.

    • fml says:

      08:22am | 02/10/12

      You know Abbot supports paid maternity leave as well?

      Or do you only support the Liberals when they support maternity leave.

      nah, I think its just a “Won’t someone think of the taxes!” and “They took our jeerbs” rant.

      Seriously how old are you? If you do not understand the reality that you pay taxes and it’s spread around by what ever age you are, I am not sure if anybody can engage you in reasonable debate.

      So pay into a fund then use it after 5 years, ridiculous. How isn’t this a form of social engineering?

      Oh btw, what state you in? Don’t use any of the roads in another state as you do not pay for them, therefore do not deserve them, same with hospitals.

    • Anna C says:

      10:13am | 02/10/12

      I agree with thatmosis when it comes to Maternity leave schemes.  Both Labor and the LNP’s schemes are a huge waste of money.  We should be giving tax breaks to people not to have children not the other way around.  Overpopulation of the world is our greatest problem.

    • Gregg says:

      07:26am | 02/10/12

      Maybe he’ll be taking them all off trekking somewhere for some team building!

      Reply

    • Dash says:

      07:41am | 02/10/12

      HOORAY FOR THE BLOODS!!

      I may be a bit late but we all had a holiday in Sydney yesterday to celebrate.

      But how the hell in a game as tight as that, can one side get more than twice the number of free kicks? Hawthorn had 21 frees to 10?? The free to Hale at the ruck contest inside 50 was a joke and got the Hawk machine up and running again. Unbelievable! Swans laid 110 tackles and got one holding the ball and only one free inside 50 all day! The inconsistency of decisions was terribly one sided. I wonder why?

      But a great victory against the odds. Mumford, Goodes, Jetta, Bolton, Richards were all injured. And they still found a way to win. The job Smith did on Riolie was outstanding. Hannerbry, McVeigh and Kennedy could all have won the medal.

      No one in Victoria rates them. And even now they are making excuses for the Hawks. But while they had a team of champions, Sydney had the champion team! And bad kicking is bad football!

      And for Sharwood, if you think that was an ugly Swans victory, you are kidding!

      Reply

    • Tim says:

      08:36am | 02/10/12

      Have to agree Dash.

      I think the AFL put out the edict for a Victorian premiership and the umpires duly tried to assist. Horribly one sided all day.

    • Arnold Layne says:

      09:45am | 02/10/12

      Spot on with all of that Dash!  Anyway, we won so who cares now?  What a weekend!  I’ve no idea how much the trip ended up costing me but I don’t care!  GO SWANS!!!!!

    • gobsmack says:

      10:55am | 02/10/12

      It was a great game.

      I’m a Melbournian and I was very pleased the Swans won.  They are a truly magnificent team who play the game with the exactly the right spirit.

      Personally, I think it is the Hawks who are over-rated.

    • Elphaba says:

      11:50am | 02/10/12

      An absolute thriller.  We ladies were biting our nails down to the quick in my lounge room during the last 10 minutes.

      Then we went to the pub up the road afterwards.  A fantastic day! smile

    • Ben C says:

      12:11pm | 02/10/12

      CHEER CHEER THE RED AND THE WHITE!

      Screamed myself hoarse while watching it at the live site at Darling Harbour. I was well and truly worried when Hawthorn had their run in the Premiership quarter (i.e. third quarter), but for the Swannies to hold their nerve and halt the momentum after the Hawks kicked the first two goals of the final quarter, and kick four of their own after that - I couldn’t be a prouder Swans fan. I’d rate this win as better than the 2005 Premiership.

      Has Mick Malthouse eaten his words yet?

      Topped off the weekend with a win by the mighty Melbourne Storm, but that was nowhere near as exciting as the Swans.

    • Dash says:

      01:47pm | 02/10/12

      I was jumping around my place like a crazy man. The last 3 mins nearly killed me! Lost my voice yelling at the telly.

      @Ben C - Carlton have made a mistake! How was the live site?

    • Dot says:

      03:12pm | 02/10/12

      “I was jumping around my place like a crazy man. The last 3 mins nearly killed me! Lost my voice yelling at the telly.”

      Sounds like a normal day at the dash household watching the ABC.

    • Ben C says:

      03:34pm | 02/10/12

      @ Dash

      Live site was pretty good, a little empty but still plenty of red and white around. Took my fiance and her brothers, and since one of them is still under 18, needed a family friendly place - which ruled out the 24/7 Sports Bar at the Star.

      Will definitely try to make the pilgrimage to Melbourne when the Swans next make the big one.

    • Dash says:

      03:53pm | 02/10/12

      @Dot - Badger, having a go at me today and Elphaba tomorrow?? Is this the new routine?

    • Ben C says:

      04:17pm | 02/10/12

      @ Dot

      Don’t let the serious stuff get in the way of the lighter side of life, hey Badger.

    • Gregg says:

      07:58am | 02/10/12

      Here we go again, already on Nauru
      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-01/asylum-seekers-held-after-facilities-damaged/4290120
      Now why should the government be leaving it to Nauruan authorities to police rather than just saying that’s not on and there you go back to whatever country you came from?

      It is well beyond time that the government got some guts in dealing with such situations where taxpayer funded property is damaged rather than continually taking their mickey mouse approach.

      They need to immediately stamp down on such action and send a very clear example of what the rules are or otherwise we’ll just have it growing.

      Reply

    • Anubis says:

      09:25am | 02/10/12

      Well there’s three that should be on the first plane home - ungrateful bastards. Would they rather be in one of the UN tent slums that pass as refugee camps?

    • Anna C says:

      10:02am | 02/10/12

      We don’t need people like the 3 idiots involved in this.  Make them pay for the damage and then deport them ASAP.

    • gobsmack says:

      08:03am | 02/10/12

      Oh good.

      I’d missed the confronting sight of Kochies head first thing in the morning.

      Thank you Punch.

      Reply

    • fairsfair says:

      08:06am | 02/10/12

      Urgh. Too much Jones.

      Have a good day all.

      Reply

    • Knemon says:

      09:10am | 02/10/12

      Do you reckon Alan Jones has been circumcised?

    • Gregg says:

      10:02am | 02/10/12

      @ Knemon
      The head is very apparent and looks a bit flushed of late.
      Do you reckon that could be he rushing on coming or just how is on the way out or any time?

    • subotic says:

      10:36am | 02/10/12

      Hopefully at 18…

    • AdamC says:

      10:56am | 02/10/12

      @Knemon, yeah, Alan Jones and circumcision: not the most exciting line-up of Punch articles ...

    • Alfie says:

      11:05am | 02/10/12

      Alan Jones has a scar around his forehead.

    • Hamish says:

      11:23am | 02/10/12

      When did The Punch become so Sydney-centric? What Alan Jones said was horrible, but The Punch hasn’t run this many articles about anything else ever. Slight over-reaction I reckon…

    • neo says:

      11:35am | 02/10/12

      Jones is bitter about the missing foreskin around his head.

    • fairsfair says:

      12:09pm | 02/10/12

      I agree Hamish. I have never heard him on the radio, ever.

      I say move on. Its f* pathetic behaviour from all involved. Including many of those “average joes” commenting on the matter.

    • subotic J. Average says:

      12:22pm | 02/10/12

      Bah. Humbug.

      Praise the Average Joes who make the Punch anything but average.

      And for being such wonderful targets for weasels like me!

    • stephen says:

      08:12am | 02/10/12

      We can’t find a downed plane, so could someone invent a black box that emits a signal once a mayday is sent ?

      Reply

    • Gregg says:

      09:15am | 02/10/12

      There are EPIRBs which get activated either by impact or being switched on manually.
      It would seem this one was also switched off.
      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-01/six-feared-dead-after-vintage-plane-disappears/4289656
      That may even be an indication the plane has been put down witha rough landing and all could still yet be OK .
      It does not matter what sort of signalling device is to be used, other aircraft can only fly and see as the weather will allow them to.

    • Anubis says:

      09:41am | 02/10/12

      The planes emergency beacon was activated just after the radio call for assistance. (I take it you are talking about the missing Dragon Rapide in the Queensland sunshine coast hinterland). Bad weather, low cloud have reduced visibility and made it difficult to conduct an aerial search. I hope they find the plane and survivors,

    • Anubis says:

      09:28am | 02/10/12

      The planes emergency beacon was activated just after the radio call for assistance. (I take it you are talking about the missing Dragon Rapide in the Queensland sunshine coast hinterland). Bad weather, low cloud have reduced visibility and made it difficult to conduct an aerial search. I hope they find the plane and survivors,

    • pa_kelvin says:

      04:26pm | 02/10/12

      @Anubis….. Have just arrived home from working up the Sunshine Coast… Ideal search conditions today, no rain and fairly clear sky, unlike yesterdays lousy weather.

    • Joel B1 says:

      08:36am | 02/10/12

      Master media manipulator John McTernan’s latest trick hasn’t been as successful as he might have hoped.

      Sure, most Australians consider Alan Jones, if not a vile creature to be at least well past his use by date for his shameful comments about PM Gillard’s father.

      However, the unintended consequence of McTernan’s little dodge was to bring other criticism of PM Gillard into the light of public scrutiny. And no more so than former ALP speech-writer Bob Ellis’s telling critiques of PM Gillard’s suitability or perhaps capability to do Australia’s top job.

      She’s a “Prime Minister of “girly tears” and takes “time off playing hookey from her national obligations” and “The doctrine of ‘Gillard Exceptionalism’ should now be abandoned. She should either do the job, or get out of it.”

      Which brings me to my point, PM Gillard’s refusal to accept an apology from a slightly contrite Alan Jones seems to be one of three things: Either a petty, schoolgirlish refusal, a calculated snub to play this for all it’s worth, or a genuine heartfelt inability to accept a half-arsed apology about her father whom she is devastated at losing.

      None of those explanations convince me that Ms Gillard is true Prime Minister material. And in the case of the last one; a genuine heartfelt and inconsolable loss perhaps it would be best for Ms Gillard to resign.

      As for John McTernan as he lurches from disastrous race-riot incitement to this last dodgy trick, perhaps he should start looking now for another job, there’s not many places left in the Commonwealth that would be happy to have him.

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    • Chris L says:

      09:51am | 02/10/12

      I was under the impression that Gillard had not commented on the original Jones quote. If this is true then it would only be consistent that she not comment on his version of an apology.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      11:16am | 02/10/12

      So they are the best Ellis quotes available criticising Gillard? Which of them even compare to what Jones said?

      Posters keep saying “Ellis said ‘it’ and no one complained” - said what? Put up or shut up.

      P.S. Why should Gillard give a shit what Jones wants?

    • sunny says:

      12:06pm | 02/10/12

      “None of those explanations convince me that Ms Gillard is true Prime Minister material.”

      You’re a poor judge. She’s been subject to this kind of low attack (from Jones and many others), and other more general attacks for the last 2 years. Some of the things I’ve read on blogs that are said about her almost defy belief. But she’s stood up to all of it - you underestimate how tough she is. Not only that but she remains very respectful and polite when she talks to people or talks about people. I’ve only ever seen tears from her when she was speaking about her father in parliament which is quite understandable.

      I disliked almost everything about Howard except his obvious toughness. He had an amour plated epidermis, nothing anyone said got to him. I put Gillard in this same category because she’s had to walk through the gauntlet and she’s still standing. That is true Prime Minister material.

    • marley says:

      07:34pm | 02/10/12

      @Blind Freddy - I don’t want to get into the “he said, she said,” thing, but I used to comment from time to time when Ellis had a regular slot on The Drum so I’ve read a fair bit of his work from that period.  Take my word for it, the guy has serious issues with Gillard, women and the 21st century. 

      I recall a comment of his on, I think, the ADFA scandal, describing it as simply a bit of “non-consensual groping” unworthy of attention by the media. In the rest of the world, we’d regard non-consensual groping as sexual harassment at the least.  Not in Bob’s world, though.

      There are a lot of other comments along that line, incredibly derogatory of Gillard, based largely on her sex.  The guy’s every bit as much a dinosaur as Jones.  Yet he was still writing speeches for Shorten (or said he was - you’d think Shorten would have more sense).

      Look, read this, read his inputs into the comments, and tell me he isn’t as bad as Jones.

      http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/56470.html

    • Bill says:

      08:55am | 02/10/12

      As expected, the AFL Grand Final outdated the NRL Grand Final, just like the AFL has been outrating the NRL all year.

      Another year of dominance for the national code…

      Reply

    • fairsfair says:

      09:38am | 02/10/12

      The irony is golden!

      LOL!

    • Aitch B says:

      09:58am | 02/10/12

      @Bill

      Give it up, mate…... you’re becoming nauseating.

      Regards,

      Australian Rules and Rugby League fan.

    • Dash says:

      10:21am | 02/10/12

      “Outdated” - LOL

    • Tim says:

      10:07am | 02/10/12

      Yawn.

      Another day, another dribble from Bill.

      Although interestingly, more people in Melbourne watched the NRL GF than people in Sydney watched the AFL GF.

      National code? LOL.

    • Shane* says:

      11:00am | 02/10/12

      Yes Bill, and as a basketball fan, I’d like to remind you that the upcoming NBA preseason will have more fans tuning in than the combined numbers for the NRL and AFL Grand Finals.

      Nothing like a nice hot cup of perspective on a Tuesday morning.

    • neo says:

      11:37am | 02/10/12

      So? The EPL is outrating AFL and NRL put together, but you don’t see me gloating about beating Arsenal 1-2, now do you? 1-2! Suck on that, Arsenal!

    • Bill says:

      12:15pm | 02/10/12

      Hey Timmy - Since you brought up the topic of footy crowds, consider this. Nearly 7 million people went to a game of Australian footy this year, compared to just over 3 million who went to the rugby.

      Way to shoot yourself in the foot there pal… smile

    • Ben C says:

      12:21pm | 02/10/12

      Bill needs a new hobby.

    • Shane* says:

      01:30pm | 02/10/12

      Bill conveniently ignores the point made by myself and neo… that any backwater sport pales in comparison to a truly global game.

    • ibast says:

      08:56am | 02/10/12

      Going through Bangkok airport the other day I find they have an additional fluids check at the gate.  This means you can’t buy duty free alcohol at Bangkok.  For “security” reasons apparently.  This is despite already going through a fluids check after check-in.  Apparently this is an Australian only requirement.

      Now I’m not a big duty free buyer, but I have noted the prices at Sydney Airport and inflight and barely worth getting you wallet out for.

      I do now wonder whether security is the prime driver for not allowing people to buy the cheaper alcohol out of Bangkok.  Seem like pretty anti-competitive behavior masquerading as security to me.

      Reply

    • Chris L says:

      09:53am | 02/10/12

      Is Harvey Norman in the alcohol business?

    • AFR says:

      09:39am | 02/10/12

      I’m probably in the same boat as you - I’m not a huge duty-free man, but there does seem to be a stitch up going on.

      Having said that, it is still well and truly worth getting your wallet out, for the booze anyway. It’s still about half what you pay at the bottlo.

    • ibast says:

      10:13am | 02/10/12

      “Having said that, it is still well and truly worth getting your wallet out, for the booze anyway. It’s still about half what you pay at the bottlo. “

      You must be shopping at a pretty expensive bottlo.  It seems to me the savings are only worth 5-10%.  In fact with some things I’ve found I can get it cheaper at my local.  I use one particular brand of Campaign as a benchmark and lately I’ve found it dearer at Sydney Airport.  Spirits are a bit cheaper, but not much (even accounting for the 1 litre bottles).

    • AFR says:

      01:14pm | 02/10/12

      Actually, ibast, I need to coem to your local bottlo lol…

      I only buy spirits from duty free (as I’m sure most do). Tale Bundaberg Rum for instance. Unless it’s on special, even Dan Murphys/First Choice sells it for $35 these days, at 20 standard drinks, that’s $1.75 per drink.

      Last time i bought a 1.125 litre from duty free (early January), it was about 30 standard drinks and from memory about $26 (I think I got 2 for 50 or something like that).  That comes in at $0.87 per drink.

      I’m an accountant - maths is my thing smile

    • TimB says:

      09:56am | 02/10/12

      Memo to Hawthorne:

      Please see if you can arrange for the NRL trophy to be sent back to Sydney from Melbourne. In return, we will give you back the AFL trophy.

      Sincerely, the Canterbury supporters of NSW.

      Reply

    • Dash says:

      10:48am | 02/10/12

      Bullshit we will! GO SWANS!!!!

    • Ben C says:

      12:13pm | 02/10/12

      Hey TimB, my $50 gave me a good return raspberry

    • BinT says:

      12:57pm | 02/10/12

      Doggies?

      puppies more like it.
      rolled over in submission and whimpered for all to see.

    • TimB says:

      01:46pm | 02/10/12

      Glad to hear it Ben wink

      And ‘rolled over in submission” Badger? How? By keeping the margin to a mere 10 points despite the Storm having all the possession?

      Clearly you know nothing about the game. It’s sad that you show yourself to be so ignorant.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      02:46pm | 02/10/12

      I have to say, knowing TimB is a Dogs supporter made the Storm victory just that little bit sweeter. LOL

    • TimB says:

      03:11pm | 02/10/12

      “have to say, knowing TimB is a Dogs supporter made the Storm victory just that little bit sweeter. LOL “

      Why Freddy? Are you utterly incapable of seperating sport from politics?

      Chongy can do it. Dave and Simon can do it. Why can’t you?

      A small man you are.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      03:34pm | 02/10/12

      @TimB

      “Why Freddy? Are you utterly incapable of seperating sport from politics?”

      Who said it had anything to do with politics - It is not politics - it’s personality.

    • BinT says:

      03:38pm | 02/10/12

      Well played Blind Freddy

      I know exactly where you are coming from.

    • TimB says:

      07:02pm | 02/10/12

      “Who said it had anything to do with politics - It is not politics - it’s personality. “

      Your personality?

      Yes, I suppose it does.

    • AdamC says:

      10:48am | 02/10/12

      I thought this was an interesting piece of doom and gloom from news.com.au. (http://www.news.com.au/business/worklife/brace-for-a-white-collar-recession-experts-warn/story-e6frfm9r-1226486009556)

      The labour market is a very strange beast. On the one hand, we keep hearing about how difficult it is for people with qualifications and experience to find jobs in their chosen field. However, in my experience, employers usually find it quite difficult to obtain staff, even when the salary and benefits they are offering are quite competitive. (My own organisation definitely has that problem.)

      I suspect this is down to systemic information assymetries and communication failures. On the one hand, a candidate may be perfect for a job, but perhaps her resume and interview performance fail to make that clear. Alternatively, an employer may know exactly what candidate he wants, but fail to communicate that properly in his job ads. (In my experience, most job ads are incredibly non-specific and ungelpful, and it can often be diffiutly for prospective candidates to find out more information about a position.)

      What do people think about my theory?

      Reply

    • Tim says:

      11:09am | 02/10/12

      Possibly,
      I don’t know what it’s like in other fields but getting qualified engineers is near impossible. The money on offer in the mines makes finding decent candidates hard.

      I think in other fields it may be a case of people living so long in a employees market that it’s hard to match up their expectations now that the labour market is cooling from the booms of the late 2000’s.

    • simonfromlakemba says:

      11:38am | 02/10/12

      Your correct about the advertisers not being clear enough in what they are looking for.

      I had to just go through the process and the amount of time wasting that happened because of it was annoying.

      Employers are their own worst enemies sometimes.

      I had to just recently get a new job, there is a few out there so I didn’t have too much trouble, just agencies and employers taking too long to reply or to conduct interviews was my main gripe.

    • neo says:

      12:00pm | 02/10/12

      Little boxes on the hillside,
      Little boxes made of ticky tacky,
      Little boxes on the hillside,
      Little boxes all the same.
      There’s a green one and a pink one
      And a blue one and a yellow one,
      And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
      And they all look just the same.

      White collar drones, cry on 3, 2, 1…

    • Gregg says:

      12:16pm | 02/10/12

      There’s likely plenty of experienced people out there but a lot of people will find it tough going iif they are approaching or through middle age and it’ll just get more difficult the longer you’re out of the workforce if my own situation is anything to go by.

      I had plenty of practical engineering experience in both the mining and power industries prior to being found unwanted via industry privatisation as I approached fifty more than a few years back before we entered the current or waning boom.
      Plenty of applications and even being prepared to try different types of jobs requiring some technical abilities and still nothing so it most annoying to see companies whinging about shortages of skilled people and leaning on the government to introduce more immigration.

      I’m still fit, healthy and mentally alert enough that I feel I could work to 75 years of age easily enough if given the opportunity.

    • subotic says:

      12:17pm | 02/10/12

      Bloody hell. Alan Jones. Or testicles.

      Is there nothing else worthy of trolling on today?

      Dwarfs? Amputees? Feminazis? Dwarf amputee feminazis?

      Where are you….

      Reply

    • Dash says:

      01:12pm | 02/10/12

      I’m doing the Body For Life 12 week challenge. Week one down. Bloody hell I’m tired.

      Since starting my new job (5 months ago) I’ve let the gym slide. I’ve put on about 5 kgs and lost strength.

      Today I did the cardio workout and I’m starting to push myself harder.

      The diet changes are challenging.

      Why is it when you get older, you put weight on so easily? When I was in my 20s I could eat anything and drink beer and still be lean. Now I just need to look at beer! Damn it!

      Reply

    • fairsfair says:

      02:03pm | 02/10/12

      I’m thinking of doing one of those challenges in the new year. I need something to overhaul my entire attitude toward food. I don’t eat enough of it and I think I need to be told what to have for breakfast lunch and dinner until I can work it out for myself.

    • Aidan says:

      02:23pm | 02/10/12

      Good luck with it!

      I tried it a few years ago. I made it to Week 8 and then I busted my calf.

      Little piece of advice; ignore the “free day”.

    • HappyG says:

      02:38pm | 02/10/12

      Dash tell me more. I just bought a new board - Mc Tavish 9 foot fireball. Absolutely beautiful stick but I fear I’m too unfit at present to paddle the bloody thing. When I got back from the Maldives in June I was a ball of constipated energy after surfing 4 - 5 hours a day but that fitness has dropped off big time. I need something to get the old energy levels up.

    • Dash says:

      03:34pm | 02/10/12

      @Fairs and Happy G - go to the Body for life web page. there is a bit of yanky nonsense there but the program both nutrition and training is very good.

      I tried to poet the link a couple of times but it doesn’t seem to get through thePunch censor?

    • Gregg says:

      04:57pm | 02/10/12

      It’s not rocket science people!
      Watch the intake, plenty of fresh stuff except for alcohol and starches etc.
      Match it with plenty of exercise and you can hardly go wrong.

    • Cynicised No Longer says:

      03:21pm | 02/10/12

      Dear Punch Team,

      Just writing to let you know why I shall no longer be contributing to your comments page. I’m sure you’re devastated by my desertion, however I feel you have a right to know why I cannot abide this forum any longer. You see, it brings out the worst in me and I do not like the person I become when attempting to deal with the majority of so -far -right -they’re- fascist, misogynistic, dick-swinging,  swaggering, compassionless  wankers who patrol these pages in packs, ready to pounce with an insult on anyone who has a slightly more leftist view of the world. I find it is not conducive to me being my best and higher self, since I often react rather than consider, and this worries me. Fighting “the good fight” is no longer worth the physical and mental discomfort caused by the white -hot rage which I frequently experience reading their commentary. It disturbs my equilibrium and peace. Sticking needles in my eyes has become a preferable pastime. So, with a certain sense of liberation, I withdraw from the fray. I doubt I’ll be missed, (and I’m equally sure this action will be considered a cowardly defeat because that’s how they think,)   but that’s perfectly fine with me.

      Now for a relaxing herbal bath  to wash off the stench. 

      As dear Neslihan signs off - “regards to your editors” and arriverderci,

      Cynicised No Longer.

      Reply

    • Gregg says:

      04:54pm | 02/10/12

      Don’t drown in that bath now but see if Alan is on the radio.

    • Admiral Ackbar says:

      06:48pm | 02/10/12

      Who the hell was that guy?

    • Yon Toad says:

      03:49pm | 02/10/12

      Did you have to have that other creepy guy from Nambour write a thread? Why? In the name of the mighty MoPed…Why?

      Reply

    • Yon Toad says:

      04:07pm | 02/10/12

      You’ll be back. Once you get the shit between your toes there is no washing it out! You won’t be able to stay away. You’ll be back…..

      Reply

    • Dotti says:

      07:55pm | 02/10/12

      In late breaking news,
      Conservatives have raised their voices as one to condemn the science that identified a Great Barrier Reef in serous decline.
      Scientists have said that the barrier reef has lost 50 percent of it’s coral in the last 30 years.
      Conservatives claim that this is an exaggeration and even if it did happen, this sort of stuff happens from time to time and Queensland is not dependent on tourism and can weather this storm.
      Scientists say this analogy is ironic, given that violent storms and agricultural runoff are the main reasons for the abrupt collapse of the reef.

      Comment was sought from the reef, but calls were not returned.

      Reply
 
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