Ah, summer. This week we brought in the New Year - and honestly, there wasn’t a whole lot else when it came to the world of news. Kate Winslet painted her toenails. The weather was hot, sometimes dangerously so. And hey, how are those 2012 resolutions treating you? Lainie Anderson reminded us that we CAN keep them.

Says it all. Coogee earlier this week.

In other news, Ricky Ponting scored a century, as Christopher Bantick analysed for us, and some other guy scored three, as I wrote today. Tracey Spicer fired up about Y txtn whyl u dryv is stupid. Lucy tackled those selfish people who dump their unusable crap at charity bins. Marriage equality campaigner Alex Greenwich warned Labor not to take a shot-gun approach to gay marriage. And The Punch Team aired (some) of its dirty laundry in the hope that a new scientific discovery that enables events to be cloaked would handily gobble them up. 

We also welcomed Tory Maguire back to The Punch. Let the good times roll.

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    • Erick says:

      04:15am | 06/01/12

      Two interesting new studies have engaged my attention this morning.

      The first suggests that conservatives and ‘liberals’ literally do see the world in different ways.

      “In a series of experiments, researchers from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln closely monitored physiological reactions and eye movements of study participants when shown combinations of both pleasant and unpleasant images. Conservatives reacted more strongly to, fixated more quickly on, and looked longer at the unpleasant images; liberals had stronger reactions to and looked longer at the pleasant images compared with conservatives.

      And, new research suggests that personality differences between men and women may be greater than many have believed. Of course, this has been obvious to most observers for, well, thousands of years - but some political ideologies still claim no such differences exist.

    • KH says:

      07:53am | 06/01/12

      And the study about gender ‘characteristics’ is flawed in that the participants rated their own personalities (i.e. not objective measurement), and further, social conditioning and culture were not considered, as these have a great impact on what ‘traits’ are deemed acceptable, and which traits are developed and which ones aren’t.  There is no way to ‘prove’ anything in regards to so called ‘personality differences’ on this planet, as adults are already made, and you can’t undo a lifetime of being treated differently.  Even children are already tainted by the time they are old enough to speak.  In my own observation over the years I have seen it over and over again - boys who want to do so called ‘girl’ things are corrected by their parents, and by extension, peers (whose own parents are doing the same thing); girls who are boisterous are similarly ‘corrected’ - it is constantly reinforced that certain behavious are acceptable in each gender - it is unconcious and often subtle, for the most part - its just one generation after another passing on many of these ‘differences’ over a long period of time. 

      Without the conditioning, it would be interesting to know what the real percentage of similarity/difference is - but we can never know because you can’t remove the influence of society.

    • KH says:

      09:22am | 06/01/12

      @marley - interesting, and on the same site another article that refutes the thesis!  There is no reliable evidence anywhere - if it is measureable, there just isn’t a mechanism with which to measure it - yet.  I will also note this study had a total group of 62 child subjects - not a representative sample by any means…......... there are too many exceptions to state categorically that ‘all’ boys and ‘all’ girls think a particular way.

    • Anubis says:

      09:53am | 06/01/12

      @ KH, Marley and Erick - There is only one word needed to prove that women’s brains are “wired” differently to men’s brains….


    • JulesG says:

      01:04pm | 06/01/12

      Well spotted Erick!

      Only a true die hard, totally far right wing conservative of the American kind, could call their opposite number a Liberal! You could love ‘em for their quaintness and naivety, if they weren’t so bloody dangerous.

      Here’s my take on the differences between men and women study - an intellectual milestone of Earth shattering proportions, stating the ‘bleeping’ obvious.

      Of course men and women are different. It’s not politically correct to say so in feminist circles though. Feminism is not about being feminine, its agenda is to be more like men and this is why feminists can’t accept that men and women are fundamentally different and have different functions and drivers; it dilutes their cause to the max!

      Women’s brains and nervous systems are totally different to that of men and their bodies are regulated by a completely different suite of hormones. Their physiology is completely different too and designed for different purposes and priorities to that of a man, Women think differently, behave differently and are different. To say otherwise is to deny the beauty of women and their true and honourable place in our society.

      Men are men and women are women, let them alone, they are both beautiful in their own right!

      Viva la difference!

      Aveagoodweekend, Jules

    • JulesG says:

      01:08pm | 06/01/12

      @Anubis. Well said and well observed - Good one!

    • Rick of the Dustbowl says:

      03:23pm | 06/01/12

      Aren’t conservitives and liberals the same thing? Like liberals and nationals.

    • JulesG says:

      06:09pm | 06/01/12

      @Rick of the dustbowl: Not in America. Republicans are the conservatives and the Democrats are little more centrist and are referred to as liberal. In this case, ‘liberal’ is a verb, not an adjective.

    • nossy says:

      05:43am | 06/01/12

      Its been a very quiet start to the year Daniel new wise - maybe the calm before the storm. Everyones in summer holiday mode and the livin’ is great.

    • nihonin says:

      07:59am | 06/01/12

      Another great day in Qld nossy, perfect weather, maybe a spot of fishing I’m thinking.

    • jay-ded says:

      08:03am | 06/01/12

      I was in summer holiday mode, before I had to come back to work. Now I’m over it already.  :(

    • nihonin says:

      01:53pm | 06/01/12

      Next Monday I start back at work.

    • Mahhrat says:

      07:17am | 06/01/12

      I have discovered that having a trailer makes you the most popular man in your social group.

    • nihonin says:

      07:33am | 06/01/12

      Same goes for owners of utes Mahhrat.

    • jay-ded says:

      07:42am | 06/01/12

      You have a trailer?  Excellent.  Could I borrow…oh.

    • S.L says:

      08:01am | 06/01/12

      My mother was the custodian of our family trailer. It was dads before he went into the nursing home. Anyway I bought some stuff for my old car off ebay and went over to mums to grab the trailer. She’d decided to give it away to some mate of my brother in laws without telling anyone. He was so helpful he even took time to remove what was already in it and deposit it on her front lawn.  NOT HAPPY!

    • AFR says:

      08:07am | 06/01/12

      I assume you mean a 6x4 one you attach to your tow bar and not one you live in? smile

    • fairsfair says:

      11:56am | 06/01/12

      LOL Mahhrat - true. Our family has always been popular for our stuff. Most popular is the chainsaw on a stick. You’d be surprised how many people just can’t live without that, but are too tight to buy their own.

      @SL - thats a bit low of that dude. Least he could do was not dump her stuff on her lawn. Talk about take advantage. You should just go and get it back off him and tell him that she was not in the right frame of mind when she sold it to him.

      I was wandering around my dad’s shed yesterday afternoon (he was showing me a new pegboard thing he had made for his puller gear and track press templates - he was rather excited so I feined interest) and I just can’t get over how much stuff he has in there. We are talking American Pickers type set up - though it all gets used at some point and is kept in a tidy manner. It is 28x12x7 with annexes and a mezzanine.  There is a trailer in there somewhere - you’d just have to give him a couple hours to shift the ute, the forklift the rideon the petrol bowsers, the dozers.

      This is a horrible prospect and probably something I shouldn’t even think about, but in the event something happened to him - where the hell would you even begin sorting that stuff out? You’d probably start by having to find the trailer…

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      07:39am | 06/01/12

      Obama announces a leaner, meaner american military with reductions in military personnel and possible base closures. Never a popular move, especially in an election year but with an insistence on federal deficit reduction there is no choice. The Republicans would be wise to let this one pass. Being hawkish might not wash with a war weary american public. Will be interesting to see how this plays out domestically and internationally

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      09:46am | 06/01/12

      Their Military is so bloated, it had to be done, bet you bottom dollar though when the election comes up it will be used against him.

    • John Smythe says:

      11:14am | 06/01/12

      agree Simon. The motive behind them pulling out of IRAQ was more financial than anything else. Was right about the time they were saying Australia and other nations need to step up their involvement (to cover their [at the time] slow retraction therefrom).

    • Gratuitous Adviser says:

      07:47am | 06/01/12

      It is a slow NEWS period but there is one issue that chumps my chops is the considerable number of Australians that get into trouble overseas, apparently due to their own making, and then ask the Australian Government (the taxpayer) to get them out of it.  One example is the Warren Rodwell’s kidnapping in the Philippines.  He is described as an “adventurer”, I suspect yobbo, who lives in the seaside town of Ipil with his Filipino family.  Ipil is an area that the Australian Government has publically deemed unsafe for Australians to travel to, as well as being personally warned by the local police of the possible kidnapping of westerners in the area.  On what I have read, the man is a fool who should get nothing more from the Australian taxpayer than consular assistance. 
      Another peeve that I have is the number of immigrants/refugees (legal or illegal) to Australia that obtain their Australian passport and then promptly return from whence they came to continue the battle.  Ex Palestinian Eyad Abu Arga spying in Israel is a typical example.  When they get caught they then use their Australian Citizenship as mitigation in their defence, to the detriment of the good name of other Australians and Australia itself.  I assume that Mr Arga’s Australian citizenship will be revoked (sic).

    • AdamC says:

      08:40am | 06/01/12

      The footage of that Aussie being held captive i the Phlippines was sad, but surely he can’t really believe the Australian government would fork out two mil as ransom? Aside from anything else, that will just encourage more abductions.

      And, yes, that Arga fellow is a disgrace. But I don’t know whether we can revoke his citizenship. I had always understood that, once obtained, citizenship was effectively yours for life.

    • S.L says:

      08:54am | 06/01/12

      @GA I agree with your assessment of Mr Rodwell. I travelled extensively through there in the 80s and found many western “adventurers” of the same ilk. It doesn’t take the Aussie government to tell anyone with a brain where it’s unsafe to be either. I stumbled into a few iffy spots and didn’t hang around long!

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:02am | 06/01/12

      When you say ‘Western Adventurer’ do you mean lowlife ferals exploiting poverty struck 3rd world women?

      Generally a step above the elderly ‘bloke’ with his 30 year old Filipino wife strutting around the shopping centre.

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:05am | 06/01/12

      Oh, and….

      I agree with you re these fly by night ‘citizens’ who lob up, get their passports , and you’d assume benefits of citizenship, then piss off back to the third world shitholes they come from. How many did we have to, or were asked to, get out of Lebanon during the last Israeli arse kicking? I can understand actual visitors returnign for short term holidays….but some of those buggers have been back there for years and spend far more time there than they ever have here.

      Surely there are mechanisms in place to stop the exploitation/rorting of citizenship??

    • stephen says:

      07:58am | 06/01/12

      No boat arrivals over Christmas ?
      Or is it that they know no-one will be at sea to pick them up ?

    • Daniel says:

      07:59am | 06/01/12

      Glad to see Clarke get his 329. He should have stayed batting though. And I’m not even into Cricket.

    • Elphaba says:

      08:22am | 06/01/12

      I still think he’s a goober though…

    • taffy says:

      08:36am | 06/01/12

      Takes one to know one.

    • Daniel says:

      09:41am | 06/01/12

      Dont get nasty Taffy…

    • Elphaba says:

      08:55am | 06/01/12

      Yeah, I think if you don’t know what Anzac Day means by now, you’ve got bigger problems than ‘brand awareness’.

    • jay-ded says:

      09:17am | 06/01/12

      Hey Elph.  How was your christmas?

    • Elphaba says:

      09:24am | 06/01/12

      It was great.  Too short, as always.  I came back to work yesterday, so I’m easing into it. smile

      How was yours?

    • James1 says:

      09:25am | 06/01/12

      You would be surprised at the number of undergraduates I had to inform that we lost at Gallipoli.  But that was just the beginning, they also thought : we had suffered the most casualties (first was Turkey, second Britain, third France, then India, then Australia); we were defending something (we were invaders); it was our first military action of the war (the first occured in German New Guinea in September 1914); that it contributed materially to the outcome of the war; and that it is a very famous battle worldwide.

      But branding?  What the hell does that even mean?  Why can’t we just teach kids the honest truth about our history?  Why do we have to make things up to make it sound more heroic/interesting?

    • nossy says:

      09:35am | 06/01/12

      @jay-ded   these silly focus groups are just a big waste of money period Jay-ded - except for the people on them who must be laughing all the way to the bank. Fraser, Hawke., Keating and Howard weren’t tied to focus groups so dont know why Gillard is. Anyway Gillard will be flat to see June out as PM by my reconing.

    • James1 says:

      10:17am | 06/01/12

      No I’m not, Simon - I was posting from memory, always fraught with difficulty. 

      I had thought the Indians suffered around 10 000 deaths, although theirs are usually counted with British deaths more generally.  Your link said “page not found”.  Wikipedia says I am wrong, though.

    • Erick says:

      10:20am | 06/01/12

      @James1 - “Why can’t we just teach kids the honest truth about our history? Why do we have to make things up to make it sound more heroic/interesting?”

      Indeed. Our real history is interesting enough. Perhaps we need more filmmakers, armed with 21st century special effects, to convey those stories.

      On the military front alone, we’ve already had excellent historical movies like Breaker Morant, Gallipoli and The Lighthorsemen -each of which told an exciting tale with few departures from reality.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      10:40am | 06/01/12


      Some reason the end came off it. Indians lost around 5,000, Australia 2nd at about 28,000, then the French etc

      But I agree with you in regards to people not knowing, I think it has to do with the media hype around it every year, no never really hear the Allies lost?

    • Economist says:

      10:41am | 06/01/12

      Ok reality check, this is a beat up and typical of Whittaker the worst editor of any paper (think AFP Oz investigation).

      $110000 dollars would barely get you a survey of 1000 people or 15 focus groups. Having worked in this type of consultancy service they’re dependent on governments undertaking this type of research. Seriously take a look at any government agency annual report, federal, state and local, for a listing of these studies. And surprise surpise Liberal governments do it as well. Workchoices cost the tax payer $140 million, more than what’s been put aside for the carbon tax.

      The problem is the public sector trying to emulate the private sector with branding, as a shareholder do you object to research into your companies brand? And many advertisers are dependent on their fat government contracts.
      Nossy I look forward to you slaying me with shame shame, disgrace etc. grin

    • AFR says:

      10:59am | 06/01/12

      Story seems like a bit of a mountain out of a molehill.

    • James1 says:

      11:08am | 06/01/12

      I think we are talking about different things, Simon.  I am talking deaths.  Australia had only 8700 deaths, and 28000 casualties altogether.  In terms of deaths, it was Turkey (around 80000), Britain (21000), France (10000), Australia, New Zealand (2700), then India (1000).  Please excuse my original error.

      The thing that really strikes me is how we were (I don’t know if they still are) taught that the British hardly did anything while Australia suffered.  The British suffered nearly 100 000 casualties altogether.  Interestingly, that is the only point where the movie Gallipoli does in fact part from the straight facts, Erick.  Their depiction of the British landings during the August offensive are a little off - as opposed to drinking tea on the beach, the British were actually getting massacred while the Australian Light Horse also got massacred.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      12:15pm | 06/01/12


      No dramas!

    • TheRealDave says:

      03:29pm | 06/01/12

      1. The article is deliberately misleading and is mainly done to ‘whip up the rednecks and News Limited Readership’. Before you carry on, as many regular punchers would attest I and extremly pro-ADF, so bear that in mind when I say, and yes I do vote Labor but I would say the same thing even if the rAbboot was doing this - I don’t see the issue/problem.

      They aren’t ‘taking away ANZAC Day’ or trying to turn it into some commie/socialist love in. They are doing ‘focus groups’  and ‘market research’ to see the best way of promoting ANZAC Day in the centenary year ie 2015. They won’t make money off it or some commercial crap. They are trying to see what works, what doesn’t work, what people like, what people respond to etc thats it. The government should be commended. They want to promote the signifigance of the day - not commercialise it or ‘steal it away’. Fair dinkum. A bit of common sense here people!

      You’ve been taken for a ride by people who WANTED you to have the ‘OMG THEY ARE STEALING OUR ANZAC DAY’ reaction. You bought the paper, you read the online article, you watched the news report on TV. So therefore you increased circulation, you increased their ratings, and more importantly you were exposed to their ads/advertisers.

      It aint rocket science people. News Limited/Corp specialize in it.

    • TheRealDave says:

      05:30pm | 06/01/12

      2. @Simon - I don’t think i have ever heard anyone in the almost century since refer to the Gallipoli campaign as anything but a tragic loss. Even entertainment such as the movies referred to earlier paint a grim sense of waste, futility and loss - for all their fantasy versions of history. If anyone is unaware of the true story of Gallipoli and what happened there then quite frankly - they are morons. Its plastered all over the media in the day or two leading up to the day, its taught in schools - even primary schools - every year. Hell, it was even on an episode of NCIS for Dogs sake!

      3. The ‘boganisation’ of Australian military history kicked off with Kit Denton re-‘imaging’ the Breaker Morant Story and absurd new levels once Bruce Beresford and Peter Weir got involved. These led to the more modern ‘blokey’ versions of Australian Military histories which do emphasize the very gallant and brave actions of our Diggers, but do tend to skip or gloss over less ‘glamorous’ parts. Still plenty of Pommy bastards sending our brave ‘Diggers’ off to die and stupid Yanks trying to take all the glory type stuff, unfortunately. Look at any Punch article or comments that start talking about ‘Our Diggers’ and you’ll see the legacy of those movies is still strong today. For the record: No Poms sat around ‘drinking tea’ while the Light Horse charged at the Nek. That was an ‘all-Australian’ fuckup with an Australian major telling the men to keep charging even though it was plainly futile and murderous. No Poms involved. Thank you Peter Weir for that one. Breaker Morant was an arsehole drunk. He skipped through the bush one step ahead of the law, creditors and his victims he stole from and defrauded. Thank you Bruce Beresford and Kit Denton for turning him into the ‘romantic bushman poet’.

      We as a nation have a lot to be proud of and a lot we need to remember and be thankful for. But our Military History has already been hijacked by others, we need to remember the facts and what really happened when we remember them all.

    • TCHong says:

      09:51am | 06/01/12

      Agree, hands off by everybody as far as “ANZAC “goes.
      maybe someone needs to rescue “ANZAC SPIRIT” from been used by those who seek to promote a ask no question type of jingoistic military focussed patriotism.?
      The campaign was a military disaster for the “allies”, and a deservedly revered homeland defence victory, for the Turks.
      The “ANZAC” legend also is meant to signify some type of Australian and New Zealand uniqueness when it comes to mateship.
      I dont know of any military forces, or any nation on earth that dont see themselves as equally embracing of “mateship”, particularly in defence forces.
      Anubis- in your readings of history etc, have you found this to be accurate?
      Any nations more ‘mateship “than Oz ? any less so ? - does a country that has a religious/ social caste system react differently?

    • Anubis says:

      10:02am | 06/01/12

      You raise some interesting points there Chongy. The sense, or embodiement of mateship that is demonstrated by the ANZACS is relatively unique when looking at military forces around the world. Although the US had many allies during the war there was no real sense of mateship developed. From the US point of view it is more a sense of superiority - they helped out weak nations and it was the US who won the war (their mind set). You just have to look at the way they portray their war efforts in popular media. The supposed “weaker forces” that were assisted by the US did, in most cases, feel that they were relegated to second fiddle by the US and, although there is significant gratitude for US assistance ther is also a certain level of contempt embodied in it.

      There is a stronger sense of “mateship” between Australia and France as a result of WW1 and WW2, but this was seriously tested in the 1970’s when the French felt they had the right to use the Pacific as a nuclear testing range. Many French towns celebrate the Australian forces but at Government level this “mateship” is just hollow words.

    • TimB says:

      10:09am | 06/01/12

      Wasn’t there a referendum early last century where WA attempted to secede from the Commonwealth? I’m not up on all the details, I think it it failed due to some decision back in Britain. What would be the legal hurdles required under our constitution if they were to try again?

      Not saying that they would, it’s just an interesting case to think about. One can easily imagine WA residents being in favour of such a move.

    • TimB says:

      11:04am | 06/01/12

      Yes that’s what I was looking at Simon. I knew a movement had been considered in the past and had a peek at Wiki for the details, but the legal issues aren’t entirely clear to me.

      It seemed that in the 30’s, the WA government went to the UK to try and make it happen, and that the UK government decided they could not grant it. Does that mean that there really is no way of effecting an actual secession under our constitution or did the WA government of the day just go about it the wrong way in going to London for a ruling?

      Given that they took another half-hearted crack at it in the 70’s I would assume that it must remain a possibility, but again Wiki is not exactly clear on the legal details, hence my question.

    • Rus says:

      03:58pm | 06/01/12

      WA only want to secede from Julia Gillard and that bunch of no hopers called Labor.

      Looking at the news poll results I think most Australians would want this also.

    • TheRealDave says:

      05:16pm | 06/01/12

      @Anubis - as long as you moved pas the tidbit where we fought and defeated French forces in Syria in WW2. They are called the ‘Silent’ 7th for a reason wink

      Our military ‘mateship’ with certain nations does go back a long way. The greatest and most treasured is the ANZAC brotherhood between two new nations at the time playing on the world stage for the first time. We also have eternal bonds with Great Britain and have stood beside them in every conflict bar one. Our tradtions with the US go back to July 4th 1918 in one of the most famous and war turning victories at le Hamel on that day. Since then we have stood by our seppo mates in every conflict since. I’m not sure how you list our relationship with France so high since WW1 we have to operated with them in any major way or conflict. As I said, we fought against them in Syria in WW2, and after early 1942 we moved to the Pacific theatre and other than RAAF units flying out of England we really didn’t have much to do with them. Same with Korea, missed them by a decade in Vietnam and both of our minimal contributions to wars since seem to miss each other as well.

    • jay-ded says:

      09:28am | 06/01/12

      Wow is just not strong enough John.

      Spray on solar panels?  WTF? 

      On the other hand…  I’ve got a lovely bunch of coconuts… seems to sum it up perfectly.

    • John Smythe says:

      09:59am | 06/01/12

      They have surpassed mediocracy and gone straight to idiocracy.

      Avg salary on WS is $400million…..how people are so clueless, I have no idea.

      One thing that chick did say though about cars running on water, I don’t know how true it is, but I do remember seeing some garage inventor (via youtube I think) who had invented a blow torch like device based off water. He was cutting metal with it and showing how cool the surface was thereafter. I think he had also worked out how to power his lawnmower (or leaf blower) with water as well.

      When asked by the reporter what he wanted to do with it, he said he wanted to sell it to the government. >.<  It was from years ago so I can’t recall who/what etc.

      Will see if I can dig it up somewhere, but maybe that’s what she was referring to (though it is some 6 odd years ago I first heard about it).

    • LJ Dots says:

      05:12pm | 06/01/12

      It’s sad really. I tried to join the protest, but alas my teeth were not quite perfect, those protesters sure must have great genes. Damn.

    • iansand says:

      09:03am | 06/01/12

      2 more sleeps before I go somewhere cold to do stuff that you can only do where it’s cold.

    • jay-ded says:

      09:16am | 06/01/12

      Wear a big black coat?

    • Anubis says:

      09:32am | 06/01/12

      Catch frostbite?

    • nossy says:

      10:02am | 06/01/12

      @iansand skinny dip at Tumut? This is is as good as Daniels “word” day. Lets all guess what iansand is going to do.

    • RyaN says:

      10:20am | 06/01/12

      cold feet in the bed?

    • jay-ded says:

      10:28am | 06/01/12

      Wear your new bear hat with the big floppy ears that you received for christmas?

    • iansand says:

      10:28am | 06/01/12

      I am prepared to give exactly the same prize as Daniel does for the best (preferably not correct) answer.

    • John Smythe says:

      10:52am | 06/01/12

      Drinking vodka from an ice cup in one of those below 0 degrees Celsius bars?

    • Anubis says:

      10:56am | 06/01/12

      Play the sport Curling using penguins as the stones? (After all, they must have some use other than attracting tourists and feeding leopard seals)

    • Hamish says:

      11:02am | 06/01/12

      I’m assuming it’s not going skiing…?

    • iansand says:

      11:42am | 06/01/12

      Hamish loses.

      I’ve always liked curling.  And penguins….

    • iansand says:

      11:42am | 06/01/12

      Hamish loses.

      I’ve always liked curling.  And penguins….

    • hot tub political machine says:

      12:49pm | 06/01/12

      Play Chess with pieces and a board made entirely of ice…..naked

    • JulesG says:

      01:21pm | 06/01/12

      @ iansand: Is it so you can wear your willy warmer?

    • jay-ded says:

      02:17pm | 06/01/12

      @James1.  Go through all of that just to collect mussels?  Are they insane?

    • nossy says:

      03:18pm | 06/01/12

      @iansand   come on fella spill your guts - where are you going thats cold to do stuff that can only be done in cold ? Personally I am going with “JulesG” and willy warmer!  tell us now my good man.

    • LJ Dots says:

      06:03pm | 06/01/12

      Rub noses? After the build up, that would really be a let down.

    • marley says:

      06:57pm | 06/01/12

      Ice fishing?  Ice hockey (on real ice)?  Helicopter skiiing?  Snowmobiling?  Snowshoeing?  Glacier golf?  Or, for the macabre, dying in an avalanche?

    • iansand says:

      07:24pm | 06/01/12

      In the finest Daniel tradition, I am forgetting to name a winner or give a prize, but I am going skink.

    • James1 says:

      09:36am | 06/01/12

      This is mostly for Erick and AdamC, but I reckon it would be great for anyone with low blood pressure.  I know I felt mine go up as I read this.


      Synopsis:  “I am a left wing academic, and thus it is my job to convince all the white men of the world how privileged they are and to teach them why they are bad people if they disagree with left wing academics like me.”

      If that is intellectual honesty, Hitchens must be rolling in his grave.

    • AdamC says:

      10:09am | 06/01/12

      My reading was more like:

      “I am a left wing academic and do, like, lots of researcha and stuff and am, like, authoritative as a result. So, you have to accept that I am right and you are wrong, even though I don’t share the of any of my cool research in order to support my contention and rely instead on a classic ‘appeal to authority’ fallcy.”

      The Drum really does publish a lot of drivel.

    • KH says:

      10:27am | 06/01/12

      Hitchens famously changed from left to right, so I doubt he is.

    • RyaN says:

      10:31am | 06/01/12

      @James1: I would like to meet this *cough* person, perhaps educate them since they seem to be quite ignorant. If that fails, perhaps a one way ticket with no money to the center of Soweto and we’ll soon see how “privileged” her white skin is.

      Then again, she is an academic and they are only academics because they are too incompetent to work in the real world.

    • marley says:

      10:34am | 06/01/12

      Well, it made my blood pressure go up, so Erick’s will be through the roof.

    • Hamish says:

      10:42am | 06/01/12

      And people say academics don’t live in the real world. Oh for my uni days when you could use phrases like ‘white hegemony’ and ‘symbolic violence’ with a straight face. Why is it that the most predictable people always think they’re ‘contrarian’?

    • AdamC says:

      11:54am | 06/01/12

      Hamish, too true. Outside the hallowed halls of academia, hypotheses which rely on the existence of things you can’t see, can’t measure and which probably don’t exist are called ‘conspiracy theories’. Within universities, though, they are called ‘gender studies’ and the ‘Faculty of Education’.

    • Slothy says:

      12:37pm | 06/01/12

      Hell, I have whole rants on derailing techniques and privilege and rah, rah, feminism, and that article was still obnoxious enough to make even my blood pressure go up.

    • Hamish says:

      01:01pm | 06/01/12

      AdamC, I have no problem with gender studies per se but it should be referred by its real name ‘white male bashing’. Gender studies implies you might actually study something to do with both genders rather than just studying how awful the patriarchy is of which we’re both members (not that we realise of course, but that doesn’t matter, that’s how insidious the patriarchy is, you can be oppressing women without even knowing it. We’re so evil). I realised it was a load of crap after I got kicked out of a tutorial for telling a radical feminist who believed that men use the implicit threat of sexual violence to keep women in check that I wouldn’t touch her with a barge pole let alone submit myself to the indignity of actually having sex with her.

      Actually that’s not true, I realised it was a load of crap well before that.

    • fairsfair says:

      09:44am | 06/01/12

      Our building airconditioner just died! I am trying not to panic…...........

    • Anubis says:

      10:06am | 06/01/12

      @ fairsfair - What’s wrong with a good bout of panic fairs? Gets the endorphins flowing and gives you a physical sense of well being when it is all over.

    • nossy says:

      10:16am | 06/01/12

      @fairsfair and for those who dont know FF live sin CAIRNS! Welcome to your nightmare fairsfair -  hahahah shouldnt laugh - its not a laughing matter is it hahahahahah

    • TimB says:

      10:17am | 06/01/12

      Part of me wants to be sympathetic. The other part of me reckons that’s what you get for living in Cairns smile.

      In the meantime its all of 14 degrees here. Whee!

    • jay-ded says:

      10:31am | 06/01/12

      Quick!  Get out fairs!  Good reason to go to the beach smile

    • fairsfair says:

      10:48am | 06/01/12

      Its still not fixed.

      I’m wearing jeans… its 34 degrees outside…

      This is the stuff nighmares are made of peeps. I’ll let you know when I am at “wheelie chair through window” stage.

    • Aitch B says:

      11:55am | 06/01/12


      Gillard, Brown, Flannery, Gore etc. will be sooooo delighted!!! smile

    • holden says:

      12:13pm | 06/01/12

      Nossy, thanks for the heads up re Fairsfair’s situation. Nossy do you think your reference to “live sin” in your reply to FF was a bit Freudian? I started thinking ‘exotic dancer’ and in the tropics I reckon that would test anyone with a busted Air/Con.
      Nah, I think I’ll go with ‘typo’ instead of ‘hypo’.

    • TimB says:

      12:43pm | 06/01/12

      “Nossy, thanks for the heads up re Fairsfair’s situation.”.... “I started thinking ‘exotic dancer’”

      If anyone hears any loud peals of laughter coming the direction from Sydney CBD, that’s probably me   LOL

    • redvixen says:

      01:44pm | 06/01/12

      Well, my airconditioner got ‘fixed’ yesterday.  Now, instead of having an office that’s 16 degrees I have an office that’s 31 degrees.  So they get the air conditioner guy back - and his response…..Well, you’ve either got to have it cod or hot.  Take your pick.  WT…?

      OK, so you studied to be an air conditioner repairer, but you can’t repair the air conditioner.  An air conditioner that was working perfectly before you repaired it 3 months ago when it turned into the Antarctic!

      If I did my job this badly I’d be unemployable.

    • fairsfair says:

      02:08pm | 06/01/12

      Fixed y’all. Aircon man here for a long time - up in roof. All the vents opened (it looked like ninjas had dropped from the ceiling). Turns out someone had flicked the switch to “off”. Funny that. God how embarassing for all and sundry.

      So we are back to workable temps. I can’t do my special dancing in any temp over 27.

    • nossy says:

      03:08pm | 06/01/12

      @holden typo wins holden - poor FF must be cooking!

    • JulesG says:

      05:58pm | 06/01/12

      @ Fairs: Fancy turning your air con off and in Cairns too! Maybe some frosty bi*** (sorry, person) in your team decided to show everyone just how not a team player they really are! Could this be possible and on a Friday too?

      What about the poor man in the roof? He’d have been a bit steamed up over it all - I would have felt like getting to grips with my Samurai sword as well!

      The main thing fairs, is that in your true indomitable fashion - you kept your cool!

      Just wondering, what is your special dance that you perform at 27 degrees? Do tell. Jules

    • fairsfair says:

      10:12am | 06/01/12

      What does everyone think of this? It is a pretty big story in our local news in the past few days.


      I think this type of response to an identified social issue epitomises the proplems the rest of Australia has with the Aboriginal social image. There seems to a definite lack of accountability for actions, any actions. I would agree that refusal to accept responsibility for behaviour is quite evident across all of society - but this story is taking if perhaps a bridge too far. I can’t believe that the Elders identify an issue and rather than fully acknowledge that it is the way in which people use social media (and not the media itself) that causes these problems. Like the road toll. I don’t see the families of road fatalities calling for all cars to be banned.

      I don’t love Facebook (I use it, but I can live without it), but it is clearly a massive driver of our society. Personally, I see that as a bad thing - but what I think is right and wrong in this world really means sweet FA to others. Restricting access is not the answer to the social problems within Aboriginal communities (social problems anywhere for that matter). I don’t see how building chinese walls around small communities will help “close the gap”.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      10:59am | 06/01/12

      From what I gather its more to do with the waring tribes in communities - Dubbo/Orange etc, but this could go right across the board - teens everywhere organise fights and goad people over Facebook.

      While it might help, singling out ‘their people’ might put another divide within the community which was not needed in the first place.

      Most people know the death knoll for the Aboriginal community was when the handouts started, meant that they didn’t have to work and lost all accountability. I had a good discussion with my Grandfather about this over Xmas, he lived in Wilcannia, basically the only white people there and I asked how was it. He replied ” we used to play cricket together, footy together. I lived there for 10 years and never had a problem with any of them “. For anyone that doesn’t know, Wilcannia is one of the worst towns in NSW, if not Australia.

    • Kirsty says:

      11:01am | 06/01/12

      Great point fairs.  I tend to think instead of banning facebook maybe work on the warring families instead.  It’s like banning the car instead of just working on the seat belt etc.  I think a little personal responsibility wouldn’t go astray either!

    • Elphaba says:

      11:08am | 06/01/12

      This is just further evidence that minority groups don’t want equality, because it costs them their soapbox.

    • marley says:

      11:49am | 06/01/12

      I guess Marshall McLuhan was right.  The medium IS the message these days.

    • TS says:

      10:36am | 06/01/12

      On my mind this Friday is a completely selfish pair of things - which car to buy? Umming and ahhing over the medium sized car segment. Would really like a Ralliart Lancer Sportsback or a Titanium TDCI Mondeo.

      Both fulfill my needs, however the turbo /petrol/ of the Mitsu means I am unable to drive it without special exemption from the NSW RTA, whereas the more torquey and equally powerful Mondeo is /diesel/ engined, so I can drive it.

      But I really want the Ralliart!

      Other than that, it is cricket cricket cricket!

    • fairsfair says:

      11:19am | 06/01/12

      I’m going through the car dramas at the moment also. I can’t decide between the Focus class of car or the small 4wd (I want turbo diesel and some actual off road ability) so I am looking at $25k or at least $35k.  Plus I can’t decide auto or manual. I keep my cars for at least ten years, so though I like manual now and find autos boring to drive - will I want an auto in a few years time and may as well bit the bullet?

      I can’t decide, so I’ve just spent $600 on the major service parts (a job for my holidays) and am going to make over my current car. I’ve got a couple of scratches to come out of it and I am going to get it professionally detailed so it smells new (because thats all that matters lol).

      It is such a massive decision and also, when I think about giving up my current car I have pangs of nostalgia. I really like my car, and I know if I replace it with anything, I would have to like it much better. It is just a shame it is way too small and becoming impractical. Damn.

      Is the Mondeo that you are looking at the hatchback version - or were you going to go sedan? I think stick with the hatch - they are way more practical. Diesel’s are cheaper to service and run. Turbo petrol is significantly more to insure than turbo diesel.

      I think the Mondeo looks more refined, but the Lancer has a really aggressive look (from the front as random as it sounds they remind me of a great white shark), which I also like.

      I am of no use sorry TS, but I sympathise with the indecision on such a massive choice. When I bought my current car I knew it was what I wanted and there was nothing that could have swayed me.

    • Tim says:

      11:45am | 06/01/12

      I’ve ended up getting a Focus Diesel.
      It’s the best thing since sliced bread for that size car.

    • TS says:

      11:52am | 06/01/12

      Yep, it’s driving me around the bend (badumtish)! We started by looking at the small 4x4 market - the Dualis really caught our attention - but there turned out to be just too many compromises for what we wanted. For sure it is a great car, but not The One™ for us.

      Currently drive an ‘07 XR6; its boot size, relative age and lack of refinement are all things that we are done with now.

      As for the Mondeo, it is the hatch version we’re eyeing. They’re very similar in size to the falcodores (bigger in places even), but with far more usable space due to their hatch shape, rather than sedan. The TDCI are unbelievably economical, with plenty of torque on tap, making for great highway cruising and overtaking. And their interior is the envy of many other cars in their price point/segment.

      But it just isn’t as macho as I’d like! Yeah, I’m still of the age where such a thing matters (I don’t believe there is ever an age where it’s not, but you know)!

      Ah well. I completely get what you mean here:

      “... I have pangs of nostalgia. I really like my car, and I know if I replace it with anything, I would have to like it much better.”

      For all its faults, the XR has been a wonderful car, and that last part really rings true. Best of luck with your hunt also, fairsfair.

      My lack of spontaneity has served me well, but there are times where I wish I didn’t get emotionally invested and could just be more spur of the moment!

      Tendulkar is looking good with the bat!

    • fairsfair says:

      12:10pm | 06/01/12

      Interesting point Tim - perhaps the compromise for me. I’ve not been able to go camping or not do anything because I don’t have a car with higher clearance, I was just wanting the option. So maybe I should just let that go - its not do or die and I’d rather keep the $10k.

      If I was in your position TS - I’d go the Mondeo for the space reasons you state. The lancer will not be anywhere near it. In terms of manning it up - could you maybe just be selective on colour choice (ie no metallic silver) and gun metal gray or black (though my car is black and I will never have another black car, but they do look swish). And then some different mags or something?

      People have strong opinions on cars and even though I know that they really aren’t a good asset - my car is an extension of my personality and I am in it a lot, so I see no issue in spending money on getting one you like. Its better than a cocaine habit anyway.

    • TS says:

      12:29pm | 06/01/12

      Yeah the Mondeo is what Mrs TS is telling me to go for, and we can buy a more macho car ‘later on’ :D.

      Going to try and take a Mondeo for another test drive either this afternoon or on the weekend, which may well decide the matter.

      Which will mean next Friday’s Punch On thread will be about how much car dealers and dealerships suck!

    • Anubis says:

      02:35pm | 06/01/12

      @ TS - if you believe that one “we can buy a more macho car ‘later on’ ” then you probably also believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden cavorting with unicorns under the perpetual rainbow.

      Once the emasculation has started by removing the horsepower it will just continue. Yes, you will be allowed another car “later on” but it will be one that she considers to be suitable - no V*, nothing with a hint of macho - you probably end up with a Toyota Corolla or some such overpriced roller skate.

    • jay-ded says:

      02:52pm | 06/01/12

      @Anubis.  You’re such a stick in the mud Anubis.  How could you say such a thing.  Honestly, do you really need a car that does more than 120kph?  None of our roads support it, so why bother with the muscle car.  It’s not really necessary is it?

      Oh, that’s right, I’m trying to bring logic into it.  So, you go right ahead and be illogical…  wink

    • Anubis says:

      03:13pm | 06/01/12

      @ Jayded - Stick in the mud? never been called that before. I am fortunate that I live not too far away from a race track that has regular public participation events. I grew up as a petrol head and had my first start on the “track” with things like speedway and demo derby. I have a number of “muscle cars” in the stable that get regular outings - XU-1 torana, HK Monaro, Shelby Cobra (replica), MGB. My regular day to day car is a Toyota Corolla. But on weekends I enjoy nothing more than cruising in one of the cars. In my entire life (I have been driving for 37 years) I have amassed a grand total of three speeding tickets (all before I turned 25).

      You may not be allowed to drive over 110Kph in Australia but that still does not negate the pleasure experienced from driving one of the brutes.

    • jay-ded says:

      03:33pm | 06/01/12

      @ Anubis.  Just playing with your mind man.  Brute cars don’t do anything whatsoever for me, but I realise the potential high for the rev head racers.  If you can afford that sort of car - even just driving it on the weekend, petrol prices must be huge - go for it.  As a “family mom”, I expect us females look at the bigger picture - as in cash, kids, can we really afford it and do we really need it. 

      If you’re anything like my husband, you’ll be asking “Can we afford NOT to buy it?” hahahahaha

    • AFR says:

      03:42pm | 06/01/12

      Lancer is a “macho car”? Gee, times certainly have changed

    • TS says:

      04:02pm | 06/01/12

      @ Anubis: Darth Vader nooooooooooooooooo.gif! Haha, yeah we had that conversation - its all good.
      @ AFR: way to comprehend there champ. It’s all relative, as stated. Relative to a softer/rounder Mondeo it’s fairly safe to say Lancer’s are more macho. Which is to say nothing of the Evo DNA that permeates the Ralliart Lancer in question.

    • JulesG says:

      06:25pm | 06/01/12

      @ TS: here at last is proof that men and women think differently. ha,ha.

    • jay-ded says:

      02:45pm | 06/01/12

      Well, it’s official.  From Monday onwards I shall be driving to work due to the 20% rise in train and bus fares. 

      So much for:  “Our public transport will remain cheap so that people will realise the benefits of leaving their cars at home.”

      Sat down with my hubbie and worked out it was actually cheaper for me to drive to work and pay $7 in parking each day than it was to bus and train it in.

      Thanks Bligh.  Next election, you too are goneski just like everything else that you’ve sold that belonged to Queensland.

    • fairsfair says:

      03:06pm | 06/01/12

      That is what I don’t understand about the world we currently live in. We must must must conserve and reduce - but they aren’t at all making it easy for anyone to do so. I drive everyday as I have a supplied carpark, but mostly because it would be $13 return for me to get from somewhere like Clayfield to Brisbane city distance-wise, each and everyday. Paid parking for a day in the CBD is about $5 uncovered - even if I didn’t have my carpark, I’d still be driving.

    • jay-ded says:

      03:21pm | 06/01/12

      Just received this in my inbox.  It takes all kinds doesn’t it?

      I pray you find peace with this. I’m Joyce Hernandez from Malaysia, wife to late Dr. Harry Under wood an Ex-Chairman of T.O.C. London who died on air crash on a vacation to the Canary Islands, Spain Wednesday, 20 August, 2008.
      Here is the proof.
      We were married with no child and I decided not to remarry since I’m now old. When my husband was alive, he deposited $25.800.000.00 with the National Bank Of New york which he intended to use for a charity project. And the bank wrote me a week ago to come and claim this money as the next of kin or give an authority letter to someone who can do it for me. I can’t do this myself because I am presently in a hospital where I’ve been taking treatment for cancer of the lungs for the past four years. My doctors have told me that I have only but few weeks to live that is why I decided to use this fund for charity work. I have no family who can do this for me, so I decided to look for a sincere person or family who can use 80% of the fund to run the charity. As soon as you respond, I will write an authority letter to the bank to release the fund to you. I want you to promise me that you will use this fund exactly as I have said.
      I await your urgent reply.

      My direct Email: hernandez.j@blumail.org
            Your’s Sincerely Sister in Christ,
      Mrs.Joyce Hernandez.

    • nossy says:

      03:34pm | 06/01/12

      @jay-ded   “Dear jay-ded - lets get married - I loves ya baby - nufink to do with ya millions RSVP ASAP!  love nossy   xxxx 000000”
      P.S. I can get a divorce from my lovely very soon I promise

    • TimB says:

      03:51pm | 06/01/12

      Subtle. Not an outright promise of riches like the Nigerian variant, but rather a plea for someone to use the funds for charity. But the stupid and greedy types being targeted here would probably think that they’d be smart enough to ‘scam’ the charity funds for themselves,  and thus fall for the ploy hook line and sinker.

      Still laughably transparent though smile .

    • RyaN says:

      08:10am | 07/01/12

      @jay-ded: There is an entire sport based around scambaiting, most of it is hilarious, read the letters archive at http://www.419eater.com/html/letters.htm

      419 is the code given to the Nigerian advanced fee fraud.

    • TheRealDave says:

      05:36pm | 06/01/12

      I posted in yesterdays Open Thread about Bob Hawke getting cheers from the fans at the SCG when he was walking around in the Outer shaking hands, waving, saying G’day etc The people loved it…then Channel Nein panned over to a forlorn ‘Honest’ John sitting in the members stand with the cucumber sandwich and blazer set and the crowd Boo’d resoundingly. Funny stuff.

      But what Channel Nein didn’t show was this absolute bloody pearler:


      Name me another nation where their 80 odd year old ex-PM would do this in the crowd at a sporting event. Its times like this that make me tear up and be proud to be an Aussie wink

    • Kurisu Sonsaku says:

      07:30pm | 06/01/12

      I’ll give you another headline;

      superannuant on six figure pension skolls someone elses beer, drunken yahoos cheer irrelevant sot.

      Former PM is guest of MCC members,  is spotted on TV, drunken yahoos behave like drunken yahoos.

    • TheRealDave says:

      10:11pm | 06/01/12

      Bitter much, you guys are bound to get back in one day…you just need to get rid of the imbecile with the jug ears wink

    • stephen says:

      12:22am | 07/01/12

      Macca’s Mc Oz is back in town.
      With real beetroot, too.

      Get yours now.

    • stephen says:

      09:52pm | 07/01/12

      Does anyone in this country know where I can get a decent fucking recording off iTunes of the Clarinet Concerto of Mozart ?
      Like, who’s playing, and who’s the soloist ?

      ps the quintet would be a bonus.

      pps but I wouldn’t take the bassoon C.


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