Bondi’s finally done it. The powers that be that run Australia’s most famous beach have put up the metaphorical “closed for business” sign and jacked up parking fees to deter the Westies.


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The local council is not even pretending there’s another good reason for the latest fee hike to $5 an hour, with Waverly Mayor Sally Betts saying she wants to “protect residents from visitors.”

“We don’t want people from western Sydney coming here and parking - we want them to take public transport. But I don’t think the 50c is a disincentive,” Ms Betts told yesterday’s Sunday Telegraph.

Bondi residents have become very protective of their little strip of bikini shops, fruit juice bars and cafes where the staff are much too beautiful do anything as beneath them as, say, get you a glass of water.

Sam de Brito recently posted about the trauma of being one of those Bondi residents Betts thinks need “protecting” from the rest of us.

This has happened pretty quickly, considering 15 years ago (if that long) Bondi Beach was considered a cockroach-infested doss house for unemployed Kiwis and a good place to get your feet wet, even if your swimmers didn’t cost $380.

And it’s got The Punch to thinking that the most up-themselves places in Australia have mostly become that way within the last generation. North Adelaide has always been posh. Hunters Hill was always chocked full of mansions, and Kew has never, ever, been working class.

But our list includes a whole heap of places that used to be somewhere normal people could afford to live, eat, drink, swim and spend time. No longer.

Sometimes a suburb’s evolution can be tracked by the changing names of the pubs, others by the exponential increase in the number of patisseries.

So here’s our list of the biggest Poser suburbs and towns in Australia. You’ll see the pattern - poor to pretentious in just a decade or so.

In no particular order: Bondi, NSW; Balmain, NSW; Byron Bay, NSW; Fortitude Valley, QLD; Noosa, QLD; Northcote, Vic; St Kilda, Vic; Burnside, SA; North Hobart, Tas; Kingston, ACT; Cullen Bay, NT; and, Subiaco, WA.

Lets start, of course, with Bondi. The suburb’s transformation began with James Packer’s multi-million dollar, high-visibility bachelor pad he had built on Campbell Parade about 10 years ago, continued with the conversion of the Diggers club into an exclusive apartment block and was well and truly complete when the Icebergs club house was re-opened after a massive renovation in 2002.

No more sticky carpet and chicken schnitzel - just oversized sunglasses, boutique beer and now, a parking regime designed purely to keep out the riff raff.

Sydney’s other contender for the suburb that has totally turned its back on its roots is Balmain.

Colgo, who admits he spends quite a bit of time on the Balmain peninsula writes:

On Darling St in the heart of Balmain is a grungy little pub called the Unity, where one of the oldest branches of what would become the Australian Labor Party first met in the 1890s. The suburb has a long association with the working class – at one point in the 1930s, its unemployment rate was almost 40 per cent. The association with activist politics survives, but it’s now more about cashed-up locals taking up trendy causes like opposing cruise ships docking at the local wharf because it brings tourists to the area. Some years ago there were angry protests when the ultimate symbol of global consumerism, Starbuck’s, opened a store on Darling St. Anyone seen drinking a latte in there identified themselves as a blow-in – real Balmain people order their coffee from independent Italians who preserve the suburb’s treasured “village feel”. (There’s a café opposite the Unity where most of the seats are milk crates, everyone has a dog, and it’s not unusual to see Lote Tuqiri or Bryan Brown standing in the queue, being studiously ignored by the other customers.)

The heart of Balmain’s pretentiousness is in the tendency to dress down and support right-on, trendy causes while living in and thereby sustaining one of the most rabidly capitalist corners of the property market in the entire country. I find it particularly pleasing that the time I spotted Philip Seymour Hoffman, a darling of urban right-on culture, on Darling St he was tucking into a burger from the chicken chain, Oporto’s.

Punch columnist Joe Hildebrand said the two biggest poser suburbs of Melbourne are Northcote and St Kilda.

Many years ago I wrote that there were more lesbians from Perth in Northcote than there were in Perth. Well those lesbians have grown up now and are all either straight or gay parenting activists but they still need their chai-lattes and to interact with people who write screenplays in wine bars. For this precise purpose God created Northcote, where one can marvel at the ambiance of passing trams from the comfort of an all-wheel drive people mover while trying to explain to young Rama why he has two mummies.

St Kilda is opposite to Northcote in every way: The levels of pretension are equally high but of a very different kind. For example, where everyone in Northcote is a struggling art history student or lesbian quiltmaker, everyone in St Kilda is a cokehead with oversize sunglasses who works in marketing or a wannabe DJ whose “signature” is novelty hats. They secretly want to live in Sydney but are too stupid to know which direction it’s in.

Our northern correspondent Sam Strutt says in QLD Fortitude Valley and Noosa compete for the top poser prize.

Fortitude Valley/New Farm – the home of Sin Triangle - once the centre of sleaze (The Fiveways building, better known as Sin Triangle in The Valley, has a shabby history. Now with a sex shop on its ground floor, it once housed the illegal brothels which helped sparked an inquiry that brought down a government and forever changed Queensland). The various knock shops and peep shows are now in danger of being overrun by trendy restaurants and bars, yuppie home wares stores and big name designers, like Sass & Bide and Easton Pearson along the James St precinct. Even the dodgy old pubs have now been replaced by grand nightclub precincts with door bitches clutching clipboards containing lists of A-listers. Renovated workers cottages, unrecognisable with their landscaped courtyards and Miele-applianced kitchens, regularly sell for around a million dollars.

The other big wankfest in Qld is Noosa – the land of raffia hats and pewter slingbacks. I think you’ll actually still see a scrunchy if you walk down Hastings St at brunch time. It used to be all laid back hippies. Now it’s all expensive restaurants and real estate agents. Sure, it’s pretty, but there’s NO BEACH!

Back in NSW, but still up north is Byron Bay, which the Punch’s own Penbo says has lost its Kombi Van charm.

Byron is a fascinating case study in the monetising of the counter-culture – a place where the 60s dream of tuning in, turning on and dropping out now comes with a multi-million-dollar price tag. Unless you’re the CEO of a major corporation there is no longer any point thinking about buying anything in Byron – not just real estate but at its ludicrously overpriced shops and restaurants. But despite this Byron remains convinced that it’s a laidback hippy paradise when it is in fact unaffordable and exclusionary, and you’ve got more chance of bumping into someone who earns more money than Bill Gates than a wandering folk minstrel. The rabid local green politics has created an unusual local crisis where waterfront properties are currently being washed away by the sea but the council is refusing to do anything for interfering with the will of Mother Earth.

Penbo’s also qualified to report on the Pru and Trude haven, otherwise known as Burnside in Adelaide.

It’s a source of confusion that with one of the longest stretches of suburban coastline in Australia, the toffier residents of Adelaide chose to settle not along the 40-odd km of western beaches but inland at the eastern base of the Mount Lofty Ranges. There, they created a painfully English bourgeois monoculture, the capital of which is Burnside. Reviled by Adelaide columnist Peter Goers as the gold lame handbag capital of Australia, life in Burnside centres around the Burnside Village where ladies in resort wear and pearls line up their Saabs and spend the morning nattering about whether they’re going to enrol their six-year-old son at Princes or Saints. If you’re thinking of moving there you will need at least two surnames and a voice like Alexander Downer. In a city where summer consistently delivers a month of 40 degree days, Burnside remains convinced that it’s part of the Lakes District, with its cottage gardens playing their part in leeching what little water remains from the Murray.

Even Bass Strait couldn’t protect North Hobart from poserification, according to our Hobart mole Vince.

North Hobart, once ground zero for working class people, underwent a significant wankerfication with the growth of its trendy restaurant strip in Elizabeth St replete with large numbers of serious tryhards and nouveau riche latte sippers. Street by street, modest workers’ residences have been added on to, demolished and rebuilt, and the suburb was dragged into a modern gentrification similar in ways to Sydney’s Newtown. Emblematic of the change: the transition of local pub names - The Eaglehawk Inn became Trout and more recently, Alley Cat. And the Empire Hotel, infamous for having its window shot out in the 90s, became The Republic Bar.

The Nation’s Capital is in a unique position, considering the definition of gentrification in Canberra is “doing up a nice little guvvy (ex-Government house)”.

Our man in Canberra Leo, however, says you can’t go past Kingston to find a poser.

To call Kingston a suburb is not entirely accurate. It’s more façade of a suburb. A large abandoned film set of a suburb that producers then on-sold to developers who convinced people it was like living in a better version of the real world. Kingston actually used to be quite a nice old Canberra suburb with real houses built in the 1920s. After knocking down almost all those old houses Kingston is now block after block of soulless badly designed and made apartments that look dated about 10 minutes after going up. It’s not only Kingston’s apartments that should be on set, as long as the show is The West Wing. This suburb is densely populated by political staffers, advisors, public servants, journalists and politicians themselves who seem to live under the permanent delusion that their life is this TV show. Walking the streets of Kingston you will often hear its populace ask each other “what West Wing character would you say I am?”

Posing in Darwin is a little different to posing anywhere else in Australia. Our Darwin sources tell us Cullen Bay was designed with posing in mind, with all the buildings looking back onto the marina so you can see who’s getting into which boat. But Cullen Bay is given a run for its money by Bayview, which has grown up out of reclaimed swamp to provide big flashy housing to cashed up beneficiaries of the mining boom. Pity about the mosquitoes.

And the verdict from across the Nullabor was resounding: Subiaco.

Formerly filled with rail yards and workers’ cottages, Subiaco is now home to a zillion cafes and restaurants, filled with people who vote Green. Subi got a run for its money from Cottesloe, the formerly faded beach-side suburb which is now home to Twiggy and Bondy.

Anyway, this is just our list. Which suburb or town do you think has the most posers?

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    • David says:

      08:09am | 07/09/09

      Bring on the rail link to Bondi Beach now you bloodsucking snobs !!!

    • Matt H says:

      08:15am | 07/09/09

      Right on Strutty! I always laugh when I go back to Brisneyland and see the abomination that has become the Valley.
      The local “publicans” - and I use the name advisedly - have turned almost everything into a chrome-and-polished-wood theme park.
      The worst insult you can give the Valley is that it’s become soulless. A wasteland of Logan bogans trying to be cool.
      The last time I was there - at the height of summer - I found it amusing to get turned away from one “pub” for wearing shorts. In Queensland. Shorts which wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow at the Sheaf (where real men still, apparently, can’t find the troughs…). Maybe I should have worn long socks.
      And when I lived in Kingston, I was Josh.

    • intepid says:

      08:30am | 07/09/09

      The only thing worse than posers is people who bitch about posers. I can’t believe people still use the “latte-sipping” epithet.

      So what, you’re coming back from your day digging coal down the mines and a bunch of university educated ponces have replaced your chip shop? boo hoo hoo, you goddamn fraud. What could be more bourgeois than writing editorials about gentrification?

      Better a happy poser than a self-hating one.

    • Beverely Diplock says:

      09:28am | 07/09/09

      so happy to see that Noosa is now seen by more than I as the low-rise Surfers Paradise..

    • Mr Pastry says:

      09:32am | 07/09/09

      All part of Australia growing older and becoming increasingly a class divided society.  People stretch themselves to financial snapping just to be in amongst the perceived prestige and revel in the peer respect that comes with the association of a posh suburb.  Most of these suburbs are pretty ordinary, except they do have occasional spectacular old property which the rest of the ordinary poorly built new housing stock tries to live off.  Contender for Brisbane - Bulimba - and its south of the river too.

    • Rob says:

      09:36am | 07/09/09

      Why Kingston in Tas?  I think you need to look into snob central - Battery Point instead.

    • Stacy says:

      09:46am | 07/09/09

      What a bunch of class warfare crapola - I assume Tory wants us all to aspire to no more than our current lot in life. Symptomatic of that large chip many in the Aussie media carry so proudly on their shoulder.

    • E says:

      09:56am | 07/09/09

      There are so many suburbs in Sydney which were once ‘cool’ places, but which were effectively destroyed by people who believed that they could buy into the coolness (eg. Paddington, Kirribilli, Redfern, Newtown, etc). What happened was that once the cashed-up had secured a place in the area, they started demanding the things that locals did not want (i.e trendy bars and restuarants, over-priced boutiques, and higher rents for the properties they gobbled up). The result: all the cool people and their way of life were marginalized or driven out, and what was left was a soul-less place driven by wealth-fueled narcissism and not the slightest hint of ‘cool’. AND then those same people wonder why they’re seen as the enemy.

    • Liz says:

      09:56am | 07/09/09

      Shame about Bondi used to love it whenit was slightly seedy.But Burnside?? I don’t think so it’s always been posh or at any rate well-heeled.Next you’ll be telling us there’s only one restaurant in SA good enough to make the 50 best restaurants l st!

    • Margaret says:

      09:59am | 07/09/09

      this so called gentrification has actually destroyed the heart & soul of Hobart.  It has become a very uninhabitable town full of very unattractive people.  The very thing the place had going for it has been ruined.  Fortunately there are places with interesting histories (& better climates) not to mention less prohibitive costs still out there

    • T says:

      10:08am | 07/09/09

      Oh good grief. Love it when people whinge about gentrification. Must be awful having to put up with all those awful cafes and restaurants and shops. Don’t see you all moving to Penrith or Bankstown any time soon though

    • Bec says:

      10:10am | 07/09/09

      I live in Kingston, and it’s really not that bad.  For us public servants who work in the triangle is heaps more affordable then Barton and almost as close.

      Plus it has an Irish pun called Filthys.

    • bella says:

      10:19am | 07/09/09

      I lived in bondi for like 3 months.
      It was ok i spose. Dint care for all those hills mind you,

    • Lament says:

      10:23am | 07/09/09

      The one in Adelaide that’s a problem isn’t Burnside. There is nothing new about Burnside being that way. The one to lament is Norwood. Norwood used to have this old foodland and a global village shop and a few other “mum and pop” shops.
      Not long after they built the cinema (which now charges the outrageous price of $18 for an adult ticket)... Some 4-5 years later the developers moved in. Now the Foodland is upgraded (which, is actually quite nice and is the one redeeming feature of the whole place) but surrounding it there’s a nine west, a fancy hand bag shop, a cibo, a boost juice and all up and down now there are retail shops like sportsgirl, portmans, witchery (Though, the witchery is an old resident and was seen, once, as the only source of familiar brand names), across the road there have also been developments and now there’s a gloria jeans etc etc.
      All this, is almost forgivable if it weren’t for the loss of The Orange Lane Market. A family weekend mecca it had a great thai food stand, a juice bar lots of little stalls with various bits and pieces, a vintage clothing stall run by a school teacher (that charged reasonable prices for her wares) etc etc
      They knocked it down to build a centrelink! There was a perfectly adequate centrelink down the road but that was to be replaced with a Country Road.
      Now the kids from Burnside have somewhere else to amuse themselves with…

    • Jules says:

      10:34am | 07/09/09

      Glad I live in country WA where there are no pretentious people and those who try to be are laughed at

    • iansand says:

      10:40am | 07/09/09

      Poser suburbs perform a very important public service - containing posers so the rest of the world can live normal lives unmolested by posers.

    • Infense says:

      10:40am | 07/09/09

      Burnside is not a rags to riches suburb. It has been that way for a century - as Penbo’s contribution tells us. So it does not belong in this article.

    • Zeta says:

      10:41am | 07/09/09

      When I first moved to Sydney’s Chippendale, only a few short years ago, it was the mugging capital of the nation, and Little Queen Street was lovingly referred to by locals as ‘Rape Alley’. I might not be happy about the skinny leg jean wearing North Shore slime invading my town, but I’m glad gentrification has turned Chippers into somewhere you could conceivably walk through at night without getting killed.

    • D says:

      10:47am | 07/09/09

      Only one off-hand mention of Newtown. That is outrageous!!!
      Nowhere else will you find a bigger bunch of tryhard trendoid “hippies” sipping $5 lattes trying to look “bohemian” while talking on their iPhones about their latest piece of contract work and their “art project” while still managing to fork out $400 per week rent for a faux “art deco” apartment. They make Balmain look normal.

    • miles says:

      11:08am | 07/09/09

      gentrification is good, it’s a natural cycle which occurs because the poor have no money and the rich no style, it goes the other way too except when nimby residents and protectionist councils get in the way of development
      taking kew as an example, there are enough spare rooms, empty tennis courts and unused gardens to house all melbourne’s homeless or at least provide some good low cost housing in their back (or front) yards
      wish we could make an example and abolish some of these protectionist local councils

    • Heléna says:

      11:08am | 07/09/09

      it angers me - prohibiting access to the public’s (they are our) beaches with ludicrous parking costs - public transport ffs on a HOT summer’s day with a family in tow, BBQ and picnic supplies, floaties and games - it sickens me

    • Victor says:

      11:20am | 07/09/09

      Bondi needs a train station.  Now!

    • Tony says:

      11:32am | 07/09/09

      D makes a good point, no mention of the Newtown freaks!  A special group of oxygen thieves, I recently had dealings with two uni kids who HAD to live in Newtown, Enmore or Erko would not cut it.  They had an option of a good deal in Darlington but being too close to uni was uncool, idiots.  Balmain has certainly gone downhill over time, from a quaint little peninsula to a crowded area full of whinging creative types who are mortgaged to the hilt.  I remember the protests when McDs hinted they were looking at the area, shock horror!

    • Keith says:

      11:38am | 07/09/09

      I don’t mind The Valley in Brissy, at least you can get a nice cuppa and a lamington at McWhirters’ downstairs cafeteria, after buying a pair of slacks and a shirt or two at T.C. Bernie’s. And on Saturday, a quiet pot of Bulimba at the Prince Consort, mind you, there is a bit of SP bookie activity going on, so beware of that I advise, the police are there in plainclothes. Mind you, I haven’t been there for a couple of years.

    • Steven says:

      11:50am | 07/09/09

      Lol, pretty funny and enlightening. Right on about St. Kilda…alot of marketing professionals live there for some reason. Maybe because it’s close to offices etc.

      Probably the best point of the article is the very hypocritical nature of these people. They will support ridiculously trendy causes, but at the same time take part in a fundamental cog of the capitalist system…the property market. This gentrification makes house prices go up forcing working-class people, who were the first inhabitants of the suburb out of the suburb. Yet when you ask them about their causes…they support the common man and they hate big business.

      I read an article somewhere about the same process happening in SoHo in NYC. Yuppies moving in and forcing the bohemian culture out.

    • Brandenburg Kvist says:

      11:52am | 07/09/09

      Once again I lament The Punch’s lack of a real WA connection. Subiaco has few Green voters, methinks, though it became gentrified 20 years ago—it’s not recent. Try South Fremantle (and indeed inner Fremantle) if you want a more recent turn—a place where the property boom squeezed out all the residents who gave the port city it’s colour, now the place is filled with double income yuppies with teenagers.

    • AdamC says:

      12:11pm | 07/09/09

      As a visitor from Melbourne, I thought Newtown was great. What is so horrible about a place retaining some character while losing the rough edge? I quite like browsing in faux-bo boutiques, having a coffee in a meticulously shabby-chic cafe, or a (micro-brewery) beer in a self-consciously ‘old school’ pub full of scruffy uni students with scarves who probably still live with their folks in the ‘burbs and with a try-hard pop/rock/punk band comprised of the same type of kids on stage. What is wrong with that?

      I note in Melbourne, while you could potentially put our inner-northern 20-something professionals ghettos of Fitzroy and Brunswick in the poser category, these areas retain quite a rough edge due to the number of old public housing blocks dotted around.

    • C says:

      12:12pm | 07/09/09

      Rob - it’s Kingston ACT, not Kingston Tassie! Hahaha

      I wish at least a few of the north Hobart wanker cafes actually KNEW how to make decent coffee. They do a half day “barista” course at TAFE and that apparently entitles them to look at you like you’ve grown another head when you point out that the short black they made you is, in fact, 200 ml of grey sludge :(

    • Leah says:

      12:13pm | 07/09/09

      So what’s the difference between a poser and someone who has really undergone a rags to riches transformation?

      While I had a laugh at the article, it’s just demonstrative of Australia’s hate for people who aspire to better themselves while everyone else sits back and whinges. Come on Australia, buck up. You’re better than that.

    • Marty says:

      12:30pm | 07/09/09

      Could not agree more with the comment about Fortitude Valley. Vacuous people who spend so much time checking their reflection every 5 seconds.  To me people are so worried about their status in life they forget to live. Try saying hello to a random person and check out the look of disgust.

    • Tjad says:

      12:47pm | 07/09/09

      thanks for spending so much time researching and talking about WA… If this is meant to be a national publication then please write it as such.

    • stephen says:

      12:52pm | 07/09/09

      I remember in about 1963 - I was 6- my uncle Kevin’d take me down to a pub in Park st. Sth. Melb. He’d be driving an EJ ute, and I’d be sitting on his lap steering and he’d use the pedals (” don’t tell’ya auntie”), Wed go to pick up steamed dim sims and long necks, and the blokes inside the pub had their good gear on : grey strides, white shirt rolled up at elbow and a craven A. (No rollies in the city ) They were ex-shearers working at the wharves. I remember my Grandfather telling me even then the bush give us the working-class, the city only the poor.
      Some of these cafes you youngsters like to look ‘poor’ in were old Aussie Pubs - for the Working Class. So forget about yer milk crate and dog : stop pretendin’. If yer got money, spend it. We don’t want any out-of-work actors tryin’ to make us feel good.

      PS And leave yer pillows alone.

    • Kate says:

      12:53pm | 07/09/09

      We’ve just moved from Highgate in to Dianella (in WA) and its a breath of fresh air. I don’t blame people for aspiring to a lifestyle but you do get bored of the wankers after a while. I can’t believe that just two suburbs down the road its so different!!

    • elisa says:

      12:58pm | 07/09/09

      Penbo is off the mark about Burnside.  It’s never been anything other than bourgeois and uninteresting.  Norwood is closer to the mark and its degeneration has been perfectly documented by Lament.  Building that hideous cinema complex was a massive error of urban planning.

      And it’s bonus points that the grab a granny crowd have now abandonned the great shitty pubs of Glenelg for the Bath on Friday night.  Ewwwwwww.

    • Patrick says:

      01:07pm | 07/09/09

      Mawson Lakes or Golden Grove in SA are the true poser suburbs…. try to find a 4wd in those areas that has actually seen dirt.

    • graham S says:

      01:16pm | 07/09/09

      As a Victorian regularly visiting Queensland, I find it quite funny to hear of pretentious Queenslanders. The second they open their mouths any pretence of sophistication and trendiness is gone. Women with their broad, whinney screeching accent alway emphasising the last syllable on every word with an upwards inflection and the men couldn’t carry a conversation in a bucket once rugby & racing are off the agenda. If it wasn’t for southern money Queensland would still be a rural backwater

    • Beavan the Bogan says:

      01:21pm | 07/09/09

      “It’s a source of confusion that with one of the longest stretches of suburban coastline in Australia, the toffier residents of Adelaide chose to settle not along the 40-odd km of western beaches but inland at the eastern base of the Mount Lofty Ranges.”

      Thank god too.

      I relocated to semaphore from an eastern state 6 years ago and I love the fact that the well healed live out in the east, while the west and the beaches can be a place were bogans like me can live without the fear of being hit by a BMW 4WD.

      Mind you, maybe as reverse snobery we should lock out the eastern suburbites on those 40 degree summer nights when tthey all seem to love the westrn suburbs.

      I relocated f

    • ANDIKA says:

      01:24pm | 07/09/09

      Another place you guys missed is Main Beach on the Gold Coast. It’s full of latte sipping wankers too!

    • Ben says:

      01:26pm | 07/09/09

      I guess Collingwood in Melbourne is on its way to becoming a ‘poser’ suburb but I think it currently has a real rough honesty that really appeals to me. Its so refreshing going there instead of somewhere like St Kilda or Sth Yarra, Collingwood is full of grimey pubs, ‘locals secrets’ little cafes and bars etc and the best part is that its incredibly close to town. You can see some of the old factories/waregouses being turned into modern warehouse apartments so it wont be that long before it becomes a poser suburb but for now, I love it.

    • Bob Higgins says:

      01:27pm | 07/09/09

      Graham - I never hear of Queenslanders visiting Victoria - I wonder why.  Also if it was not for Queenslands and WAs big holes in the ground VIctoria and New South Wales would collapse.

    • Daniel says:

      01:27pm | 07/09/09

      Newtown (Sydney) used to be a great place to hang out in the early/mid 90s, great people, great vibe, great food, shops, etc…then yuppies moved in and destroyed it…used to love spending a couple hours at the Marlborough Hotel with a cold one and a few mates enjoying the view…now I drive around it if I can…

    • Julie of the GreatSEQ says:

      01:29pm | 07/09/09

      I always get a laugh out of places like Byron whose ‘style’ has been copied endlessly up the coast of Qld - a place that everyone came to get away from everything that has turned into the place that everyone is trying to get away from.  We were just talking this morning about particular locations up the coast that the sea/tree-changers have moved to - no-one wanted to give you 10 bucks for it 10 years ago and now it’s THE next must have/must live here (hervey bay, tin can bay, 1770. agnes water, gladstone, yeppoon, mackay, port douglas etc etc, in fact any coastal location in Qld).  Oh well, it won’t be my blood the mozzies will be feasting on.

    • R.E.L. says:

      01:34pm | 07/09/09

      Tory, the Waverly Council move doesn’t only keep out westies, it also keeps out neighbours like those from Woolharra, Randwick and Botany Councils.
      Besides, I’ve always had a dislike of Bondi Beach anyway. The beaches between Bronte and Maroubra are far more pleasant!

    • cretin says:

      01:39pm | 07/09/09

      Paddington NSW. Enough said.

      I have a friend who was a nice normal bloke from western sydney.

      Not long after moving to paddington a few years back,.... out come the skinny jeans, the $1000 jackets, $500 shoes, trendy set clothes, sushi sets & fancy restaurants etc etc.
      He even bought a ‘man-bag’ for $300, and ditched the old toyota for a new $30k euro junkmobile!!! 

      Though, he still has his old apartment in western sydney (rented out), so gotta give him credit for that!

    • Shelley says:

      01:50pm | 07/09/09

      Brandenburg Kvist
      Agree about Freo. Use to love the place and now it’s all overpriced and puncey. Full of super rich wannabe hippies teched out to the max and druggies.
      The Freo markets are fantastic and still well worth the day out . However even they sell mostly trendy upmarket - goods now.

    • Jess says:

      01:54pm | 07/09/09

      I have to agree with Tjads comment it looks like your research into Perth was a bit thin on the ground. Subiaco and Cottesloe are not NEW poser suburbs. The description of Cottesloe as, “a formerly faded beach-side suburb,” is laughable! Mount Lawley, North Perth and all of beautiful Fremantle (I’m especially sad about North and South Fremantle) are former working class areas. They have been recently ‘transformed’ into completely unaffordable and increasingly soulless places.

    • Graham S says:

      02:11pm | 07/09/09

      Bob Higgins@ 12.27. You’re quite on the money why Queenslanders never visit Victoria. What would they understand about the quality shopping, best rated restaurants in the country, wine growing areas, The Great Ocean road, F1GP, Aust.Open, The Spring racing carnival & Melbourne Cup week, etc.etc. And for some odd reason that fool rugby State of Origin nonsense gets the occasional gig if anybody here could be less interested. Still Qld does have cultural icons like The Big Pineapple

    • Cjo says:

      02:21pm | 07/09/09

      oh my poor Subiaco! The main street used to have a butcher, a fish and chip shop, an optometrist and the iconic Ben’s Deli where we as kids used to get our lollies. And now it’s a cafe, a boutique, a cafe and then another boutique, followed by two cafes.
      Plus all those adorable workers cottages have been purchased at inflated prices and modified to fit the perfect Federation home ideal, complete with the ubiquitous white picket fences of this once character filled, now straight out of a magazine suburb.

    • Chris says:

      02:22pm | 07/09/09

      I would agree with Paddington - When working in Canberra I had a meeting in Paddington. I arrived there about 10.00 and my meeting wasn’t until 11.00 am. Due to my early departure from the Nation’s capital I needed something to eat, so I approached a local cafe to be advised that did not open until 10.30 am. I told her that I thought this was strange and she said - Darling nothing opens in Paddington until 10.30!!!

    • pc says:

      02:30pm | 07/09/09

      Gentrification isnt merely about the repossession of land from the poor to the wealthy, it is about isolating different socio economic classes in order to prevent social conflict. This seems to be most fundamental in Sydney -bondi riots (“skips” vs “wogs”) as well as redfern riots (police vs indigenous australians). As disturbing as these conflicts are, they address questions about australian identity, multiculturalism and class. Unlike contributions like shelleys, “Full of super rich wannabe hippies teched out to the max and druggies.” which make it clear, it is also so the superficial and meanspirited can grind their narrowness into a blunt axe, which they then wield as a club, cutting nothing but bruising everybody they come into contact with.

    • Rich Burnside Resident says:

      02:40pm | 07/09/09

      So True…. I live in Burnside and Drive a SAAB…... But hey what life….I love it… Sometimes I drive through the Southern and Northern Suburbs for a bit of amusement….. Doors Locked of course…...

    • Andrew Jones says:

      02:41pm | 07/09/09

      I say good on them, keep the riff raf out, they cause misery and trouble everywhere they go so. What’s wrong with people wanting to protect a nice place, should be more of it then Sydney might not be such a crime infested cesspool.

    • Lobster says:

      02:50pm | 07/09/09

      i love iansand’s comment re poser suburbs performing a public service by containing the posers.

      look at it this way: posers, as a group, tend to blow all their money on crap.  good for the economy, right?

    • AT says:

      02:52pm | 07/09/09

      Why do youse single out Balmain and Bondi? Draw a semi circle out from Sydney’s CBD as far as Leichhardt, include the coastal fringe and all the Northern Beaches, in fact any place north of the Parramatta river and anything contained therein is your poser demographic.

      If want a more refined grouping, residents of Balmain, Bondi, Newtown etc, can be described as “poseurs”. Residents of Paddington, Manly, Leichhardt etc, can be defined as the slightly less pretentious “posers” and anyone left over within those borders can be classified as “wankers”.

      One can only hope the western advance stops at Leichhardt. Because, you see, whilst youse bicker amongst yourselves, us Westies enjoy splashing around in our spacious backyard swimming pools with the neighbours. Whilst youse cautiously sidestep designer dog turds on your too-narrow footpaths, we delight in watching our mongrels joyously gambol in the thousands of hectares of open space. Whilst youse peruse poncey art with pursed lips pretending to understand it, when really you’re more concerned about your SUV copping a parking fine, we catch the train to Casula, conveniently alighting 50 metres from the best gallery in Sydney, the Casula Powerhouse. Whilst youse queue at the latest trendy cafe for the privilege of paying over inflated prices, we pay a pittance for some of the most authentic and exotic meals in the world.

      Posers; youse live in paradise, please feel free to keep it to yourselves.

    • B says:

      02:57pm | 07/09/09

      Funny how it works,
      Here in Bunbury WA (200Km South of Perth) we manage to live together side by side. White and Blue collar workers neighbours with each other.
      Fine some might drive the flash euro car and others might be driving the old Toyota Corrolla but we all get on well and have a drink at any local water hole together after work.

    • pc says:

      03:07pm | 07/09/09

      Oh, I think I may have been misunderstood - I do not support gentrification and the privatisation of public space. It is not about hippies or yuppies, posers or wankers - it is about the fragmentation of our communities. And our unwillingness to address those issues in favour of cutting ourselves off from one another. I live in a suburb that still has public housing, many homeless, many different ethnic groups and I would much rather live with personal risk, though i believe that is very exaggerated in many cases, than live in a sterile, middle class, pretend community where people think owning a saab means something, other than that they own a saab. (Surely if you were that rich you could afford something better.)

    • Bob Higgins says:

      03:14pm | 07/09/09

      @Graham S 1:11
      Having lived in Melbourne for many years I remember those local victorian attractions but have never heard of them since, you see the rest of Australia doesn’t care.  The melbourne events came round each year with the same predictability and tedium, unchanged in decades with even the news coveradge repeated year after year.  I left to get out of the 1950s Ground Hog Day loop.
      What has Queensland got - not much but how about five of the UNESCO world heritage sites including one of the seven wonders of the natural world The Great Barrier Reef.  There are more things but you are from Melbourne and unless it involves shops and coffee it flies over your head.  Queensland is unashamedly Australian and magnificent, it is big and scary and that is probably why victorians have a problem here - the pleasantries and minutia of surburban life do not matter as much.

    • Kate says:

      03:18pm | 07/09/09

      So true about St Kilda - I lived there for a while after growing up in the western suburbs and was amazed by the amount of shops selling overpriced crap, the massively inflated food and drink prices in local cafes and best of all, the fact that all the pretentious types talked up how cool they were for living in such an awesome suburb yet managed to ignore the drug dealers, prostitutes, nightly parade of police cars etc (or maybe that just added to the cool factor).
      I’m in South Melbourne now and can’t really judge the pretentiousness level, because I never see any of my neighbours before night time, leading me to believe that South Melbourne types must be workaholics or vampires.

    • D says:

      03:17pm | 07/09/09

      AdamC
      I hope you were being ironic because you made me laugh.

      We both forgot to mention that there are now 2 burger chain stores and an Eagle Boys on King St and nearly every other restaurant is a Thai restaurant.

      Pose on!

    • Lou says:

      03:24pm | 07/09/09

      bugger bondi - get the train to central then the ferry to manly.  If the precious dears of the eastern suburbs are so offended by my mortgage, 2.2 children realistic assessment of my creative abilities and western sydney postcode, I will take my money elsewhere…

    • Cooper says:

      03:41pm | 07/09/09

      Newtown and Erskineville are heading the same way as Balmain. Used to be fun hippies, students and young couples. Now it’s upper class yuppies who’ll do everything in their power to stop pubs like The Imperial reopening so their four kids under four can get a good nights sleep in and litter the sidewalks and cafes the following morning.

    • BH says:

      03:44pm | 07/09/09

      The Valley is still the dodgiest place in Brisbane.

    • jen says:

      03:51pm | 07/09/09

      I dont think they sell hair brushes in Northcote.

    • Jane C says:

      03:52pm | 07/09/09

      totally agree with this…I would argue that other Canberra latte sipping poser haunts rival Kingston… Braddon, Turner, O’Connor…. they have been yuppified to f**k like Kingston has…anyone been to All Bar Nun at O’Connor shops recently?  Or Tilley’s at Lyneham?  euuurgh…...(shakes back and forth)

    • elizabeth says:

      04:14pm | 07/09/09

      so, everyone here with your HUGE problem with ‘yuppified’ areas clearly all live in ‘real’ working class places, right?  you hate it so much? don’t damn well go there.  what’s your alternative? i bet you all hung out in the valley when it was full of drug dealers and unregulated street prostitution; gee, no latte’s for you, you are drinking ‘real’ drinks.  like, i dunno, your nescafe out from westfield carindale? oh no! that’s just full of filthy bogans, right? 

      the pure, classist rot in these comments sickens me.

      and if one more smarmy arrogant idiot pays out ‘queensland’ accents, i think i am going to go postal. i live in canberra, here on a grad job at the national library that i managed to earn against 1500 other applicants. i am no fool.  however, the second i admit i am from brisbane, or the second the merest hint of a slightly broader accent comes out, i am looked down upon.  the second it’s realised i’m from working class roots, people snigger at my lack of a trust fund. how utterly ignorant, childish, and classist can you be? being a third generation public servant does not make you a better human being.  growing up in inner city melbourne does not make you more cultured, smarter, more compassionate, or a better human being that contributes more to the world than someone from the outer suburbs of brisbane.  neither does drinking lattes, or ristrettos from posh cafes.

    • Amanda V says:

      04:25pm | 07/09/09

      I agree with AT including the northern beaches, why weren’t they included. I moved over to the area 15 years ago and go out with a young man that has lived here all his life. To this day I get people commenting on Westies and how they are different. Yes they certainly are: when the chips are down they will rally around you, if you need help they will be there, if you lose your job there is someone who can help you with a job to tide you over. What does the northern beaches offer you: people who will help you only if you can do something for them, the area is based on I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine. If you get in trouble then mummy and daddies money will get you out of it. They have a superior attitude with the morals, ethics and principles of alley cats. Yes there are a handful of nice, reliable people but based on the people I’ve met I wouldn’t raise my children here for anything.

    • Mr Pastry says:

      04:36pm | 07/09/09

      Does anyone know, where the idea that Australia was a classless society, came from?  I’ve never heard such snobbery (up or down).

    • dennis says:

      04:45pm | 07/09/09

      Brandenburg’s spot on with South Fremantle and Freo. I wouldn’t have put Subi in the same class.

    • Richie says:

      04:58pm | 07/09/09

      I agree with Andrew Jones; why should anyone have to put up with riff-raff & bogans ruining places like Bondi & Balmain for us decent people.

    • rufus says:

      05:20pm | 07/09/09

      @elizabeth - you sound like such an angry piece of work that it’s surprising anyone would risk saying anything at all to you.

    • liz says:

      05:28pm | 07/09/09

      people people - lattes? that’s so 90’s. posers sip esspressos if they’ve got any worth..

      Bondi should be left for dead, real locals stopped going to the beach there years ago and quite frankly, i like have that crowd contained.

      I can’t believe Newtown, Redfern, Surry Hills and Darlinghurst weren’t mentioned if you are talking about gentrification of inner city suburbs - not that i think it’s a bad thing, people’s taste evolve, so does our nations culture, why do we need to keep being bogans because that’s the way it used to be? in saying that, if anything happened to the awesome cheap Thai food in Randwick, i would die….

    • there goes the neigbourhood says:

      05:29pm | 07/09/09

      Hey Richie, You miss the point, Balmain and Bondi were riff-raff places until the pretensious had no where else to go.  Then in sheer despair, the pioneers of the pretensious set, the trail blazers if you will, set out further afield, exploring newer places to pose in.  These trail blazers are seen in such gritty grimey places wearing over sized sun glasses and are viewed upon by their peers as being uber modern, an artistic contradition - then the idea catches on with their peers, until the riff-raff have been completley infiltrated by the poses.  Pushing them further and further out.
      When you think about it, it doesnt make sense Why should riff-raff have access to beaches or live in close proximity to the city?  Surely good realestate only belongs to the pretensious set.  Or as it is, the pretensious are sold on ideas and not substance.  If they were sold on substance Balmain and Bondi would have always been prime realestate.

    • lobi says:

      05:48pm | 07/09/09

      Australia is a nation of posers its just that more of them have money now.

    • Kim says:

      05:54pm | 07/09/09

      Okay Kingston ACT, I am still laughing at that one.  if you look at the statistics it has the biggest number of methodone patients than any suburb in Canberra.  i actually know doctors who worked out there who quit because by the time they saw these patients that didn’t have time to see anyone else. 

      Kingston has some great places to eat, some of the new units look nice, but I wouldn’t waste my money…..

    • Sc says:

      05:57pm | 07/09/09

      Good grief…please, spare us the stereotypes.  Mr Pastry, I agree with you 100%.  After moving from the western suburbs to north shore, I’ve found that my apartment neighbours are just as friendly, the guys from the housing commission block next door are great and the business owners down the street are always happy to chat.  If I order a latte, it’s cause I want more milk in my coffee!

      However, I will say the city scares me.  So many people, going so many places, with such little interaction.

    • AdamC says:

      05:57pm | 07/09/09

      D, I wasn’t being entirely serious, but I wasn’t being ironic either. Yes, I guess a place can become a little soulless when it is colonised by twenty-something inner city trendies who imagine themselves as unique and cool and above everything, when they are actually conformist clones with status anxiety. (Though maybe I am just worried I am one of them!)

      However, you also have to ask why all the working families (this might actually be a time where that term is appropriate) left these areas. Maybe it wasn’t so great living in a dirty, dangerous suburb filled with dodgy dives and drunken derros? Maybe the organic bakeries, cleanskin shops, Turkish-style cafes and (yes) all the attendant chain-stores and franchise convenience food outlets are an improvement on what preceded them?

      Maybe we romanticise working class authenticity too much because we like to think we have more in common with the people on the (old) VB ads than we do with the ubiquitous yuppies? Maybe we are wrong?

    • Kane St Kane says:

      06:24pm | 07/09/09

      As a dweller of BURNSIDE in South Australia, I think this atricle is Just more proof that ‘Tall Poppy Syndrome’ is alive and kicking.  Why should people with money feel bad and be ridiculed as ‘Posers’ just because we’re not a bunch of backwater bogans or unpleasant peasants?  It’s a sad state of affairs when people with money are frowned upon because we’re not like the mindless masses.

    • Desertgirl says:

      06:26pm | 07/09/09

      I have to add Alice Springs to the list. Yes, even this small town in the middle of the desert has its own snobby little enclave. The Golf Course Estate. The suburb sports grand mansions that would not look out of place in some of the wealthy suburbs of Sydney or Melbourne, price tags in excess of $1million are regularly seen. The Golf Course Estate has been officially renamed Desert Springs but no-one calls it that, doesn’t have that same snobbish, poseur ring to it. My partner’s employer provides our accommodation - in said poseur estate! I cringe inside whenever I’m asked at work where I live. I hastily explain I live in one of the original, old, crumbling, small houses on the fringe of the Golf Course. “Oh, that must be nice ...” is the oft-heard phrase. I try to tell them about the mice and the spiders and the snakes but it’s to no avail. The envy is in their eyes and they wander off thinking “wow, she must be rich”. No, if it weren’t for my partner’s employer paying the rent on our behalf, we could not afford to live here. Not at $550pw! (Geesus, this is Alice Springs not Sydney!). Still, it amuses me to listen to long term residents here discussing their joy at being able to afford to move in to the inner enclave suburbanity that is the Alice Springs Golf Course Estate.

      Poseurs are everywhere. *sigh*

    • Davo from St Kilda says:

      06:26pm | 07/09/09

      I have no idea who Joe Hildebrand is but I can guarantee that he has never been to St Kilda in his life. “everyone in St Kilda is a cokehead with oversize sunglasses who works in marketing or a wannabe DJ”? WTF? You’d have just as much credibility if you said that we are all martians with three heads, such is the stupidity and absolute ignorance of his claim. Everyone who moves to St Kilda NEVER leaves because it is clearly Melbourne’s best suburb (and I know - I’ve lived in the north, south, east and west before settling here). As for the crack that we “secretly want to live in Sydney”, well, I finally read your little bio and realised that you were born in Melbourne and now work in Sydney, so maybe you always wanted to live in Sydney but I know I and 6 million other Victorians have no desire to leave our beautiful state. And the fact that Melbourne’s population is growing faster than Sydney’s proves that people from other states actually “want to live in Melbourne”.

    • Papachango says:

      06:26pm | 07/09/09

      The description of Northcote pretty much nails it. You just have to add the pop-art posters of Mao and Che Guevara on living room walls. I like to call them ‘radishes’ - left-wing posers who are fashionably red on the outside, but thoroughly white on the inside. They will bang on about universality of ethnic oppression, and the inequities of education, but will send their kiddies to private schools, and are secretly glad the oppressed foreigners can’t afford to live next door to them.

    • pc says:

      06:44pm | 07/09/09

      BH (at 2.44pm) said “The Valley is still the dodgiest place in Brisbane. ” Wow you obviously dont get out much. Ever been to caboolture or how about Inala, but if you really want a horror show, I suggest Ascot.

    • iansand says:

      07:20pm | 07/09/09

      OK.  What percentage of these comments are tongue in cheek?  More or less than 50%?  My guess is somewhere around 50% are serious.  Which is quite sad.

    • ella fitzgerald says:

      07:35pm | 07/09/09

      god it must be exhausting to be this judgemental

    • noelo says:

      07:36pm | 07/09/09

      Yep Balmain is definitely chockers full with wankers. Thankfully at least there is some respite, with humanity still reasonably sane in Rozelle. The beauty of Rozelle is none of the Blah-main wankers wouldn’t be seen dead in it as they see it as a step down the social ladder.

    • Your name: says:

      07:38pm | 07/09/09

      just so you know, caboolture isn’t in brisbane…

    • Maree says:

      07:48pm | 07/09/09

      Bayview doesn’t have mosquitos, it has midgies, slightly different insect if you could call it that.  When Bayview was first established it was known as Baygone View, still could be called it today as midgies and sandflies are still prevalent.  Yes there are a lot of would be posers wherever you go in life.  New the Top End of Oz.

    • PT says:

      08:11pm | 07/09/09

      pc, or rocklea, goodna, darra, carole park for dodge areas.

    • Kim says:

      08:27pm | 07/09/09

      Technical Error -  Byron Bay is located in QLD on your map.

    • pc says:

      08:28pm | 07/09/09

      Papachango, I am intrigued by ‘radishes’. How is it different from champagne socialist or chardonnay socialist? I assume champagne socialists are richer than chardonnay socialists if that helps.

    • Anthony says:

      08:32pm | 07/09/09

      Most of the comments on this article reek of that endemic Aussi ailment the “inferiority complex” the great Aussie chip.Thre’s nothing wrong with wearing thongs and saying G’day Maite every second but there are there are also true blue Aussies of every race and background who like to have a decent coffee/glass of wine and shop for other clothes than the ubiquitous tee shirt and thongs without being considered “up themselves”

    • Trudy says:

      09:39pm | 07/09/09

      Once again, WA gets mentioned in the list, but never expanded upon like ALL the other states

    • nyahnyah says:

      09:56pm | 07/09/09

      Must quickly send self to boganic suburb to repent for being an extreme poseur. Live in Northcote, have lived in St Kilda, work in marketing. I think that makes me a double-soy-chai-latte-super-wanker. I wish I had known all this earlier. Maybe would have moved to Franga instead.

    • PeteStvns says:

      09:57pm | 07/09/09

      “The only thing worse than posers is people who bitch about posers. I can’t believe people still use the “latte-sipping” epithet.

      So what, you’re coming back from your day digging coal down the mines and a bunch of university educated ponces have replaced your chip shop? boo hoo hoo, you goddamn fraud. What could be more bourgeois than writing editorials about gentrification?

      Better a happy poser than a self-hating one.”

      I couldn’t agree more.

      The irony is the people behind this story are as much posers as those who they point the finger at due to the fact they do it from their highhorse without even realising. The highest form of snobbery.

      I’m a Bondi local and have been my whole life - this whole ‘latte drinking snobs’ and according to the moron who was on 101.7 earlier ‘needing a $200 T-Shirt to fit in’ is nothing but a myth, Bondi is just as bad as anywhere else for christ sakes.

      Way to go and lose a reader with this utter tripe.

    • Shane says:

      10:01pm | 07/09/09

      Just bought a small 1950s built home in Kellyville and best coffee in Australia is no doubt made at the Gloria Jeans Coffee at Bella Vista Village. I went to Dover Heights High School through the late eighties and then ninties, Bondi was a toilet then and is a toilet now.

    • Rani says:

      10:09pm | 07/09/09

      Hold on, The Valley once was the “centre of sleaze” and you’re complaining that this is being replaced with “trendy nightclubs and restaurants”. Wouldn’t that be considered an improvement?

    • Isabella says:

      10:12pm | 07/09/09

      Recently at a back yard barbeque following a relatives funeral in Strathfield, when a quite erudite friend of a friend type lauding the horde about his Bondi lifestyle, was brought to heel when the house owner stood up and declared that Bondi might be nice and his little piece of Strathfield might be boring but at least he owns what he has got! Said Bondi w@nker just did not seem to grasp the concept of telling a backyard full of inner west home owners with kids at pretty respectable local schools that his lifestyle choice of perennial debt and zero control over his future were seen as good conversation!

    • BalmainBlowin says:

      10:15pm | 07/09/09

      Everywhere’s full of posers ...
      What are ya ? Yob or Wanker ?

      You can even be both !

    • poppy says:

      10:18pm | 07/09/09

      Your WA research is pretty thin. Has anyone over there actually visited Subi? & if they all vote Greeh how come they keep returning Julie Bishop?

    • Paulo says:

      10:27pm | 07/09/09

      I dont understand these ‘posers’ in Australia. If you think a place like St Kilda is so amazing go to Barcelona or Amsterdam or Rome…. and then you will realise what is really great about Australia and its not these little places at all its the people and the country side so stop being a ‘poser’ and start being an Australian because thats what we all love.

    • Rachel says:

      10:43pm | 07/09/09

      Dear Graham,
      Not everyone in Queensland is a gross bogan; Some people are educated and speak with eloquence.
      “You’re quite on the money why Queenslanders never visit Victoria. What would they understand about the quality shopping, best rated restaurants in the country, wine growing areas, The Great Ocean road, F1GP, Aust.Open, The Spring racing carnival & Melbourne Cup week, etc.etc. And for some odd reason that fool rugby State of Origin nonsense gets the occasional gig if anybody here could be less interested. Still Qld does have cultural icons like The Big Pineapple “
      Ouch.
      Our beaches are nicer.
      - There are plenty of posers in West End and Paddington as well.

    • regina says:

      10:51pm | 07/09/09

      so where do all these carping tossers who think everyone else is a tosser for living where they do live themselves?

      oh dear i hope that doesn’t make me a tosser too.

    • Con says:

      10:54pm | 07/09/09

      After back living in Fortitude Valley for 3 years now after being absent in the horrors of suburbia for 4 years in Sunnybank Hills, Brisbane, I love it.  It’d diffferent and definately changing bigtime everyday for the best.  We have just as many homeless and people in posh sports cars that never get out of second gear but we all get along.  People like to watch other people and this is the place to do it.  My 16 years old boarder (still in school) lost her purse on Brunswick Street after gettting off the bus about 5pm on a weekday, the purse was handed in to the Police Beat on the Mall with the $150 cash still in it - God Bless the Valley.  My street is full of people who have been here for years and will probably never sell - they been here like myself since it was Shitsville, now evolving to where the people come to hang out because they like the vibe, and I can’t blame them, it has a vibe especially if you live here.  The locals know each other, we all walk everywhere, and we keep an eye out for each other unlike the 6 foot fenced compounds in the suburbs - nobody walks or talks.  I’m proud of the old Valley, love the blend of the old and the new and it’s never boring.

    • papachango says:

      11:11pm | 07/09/09

      pc - yes a Radish is a similar concept to a Chardonnay socialist (except that Chardonnay is sooo 80s - it’s albarino nowadays, do try to keep up!)

      Radishes are actually a subset of chardonnay socialists. While anyone can be a chardonnay socialist, you have to be white and Anglo Saxon to be a radish. However, they hate the fact that they’re WASPs, and would dearly love to be any other race so they could feel oppressed too.

    • Adam says:

      11:31pm | 07/09/09

      Why wasn’t Main Beach on the Gold Coast mentioned? This little place located on the northern beaches of the Gold Coast is full of
      “desperately wannabe somebody but not quite sure who yet” people with their ugly large rimmed sun glasses which seem to be a compulsary accessory for all the bimbos and himbos who frequent this place.
      Most of these people have no money as it is spent on their sky high rents and their car loans for their cheap C class mercedes or their 1 series BMW’s which they try desperately to park on the main street so they hope everyone will look at them when they get out.
      The only way they can be seen in Main Beach is to save up all their loose change every week then go and spend it on their 5hr slow sipping skinny-decaf latte while trying to look like someone important.
      There are people there with money and there are people there who wish they had money…....they are the pathetic ones.

    • Sandra says:

      12:33am | 08/09/09

      “Not everyone in Queensland is a gross bogan; Some people are educated and speak with eloquence.”

      That’s right Rachel. Up in Queensland they is gettng real sovy-skated. One can discern the bride from the other wedding guests; she’s the one in the GOOD thongs. What’s more, places in Brisbane stay open for tea as late at 7.30 at night so you can still be home on time for your Milo.

    • milord says:

      02:01am | 08/09/09

      I’ve noticed more white people in Cabramatta. Do ‘they’ count?

    • Zed says:

      08:05am | 08/09/09

      I think the worst place in the whole of Australia is undoubtedly the eastern suburbs of Adelaide (which includes Burnside). I’ve lived all around Australia and nothing else takes the cake like it. Although Noosa is so far up itself and those inner Eastern Melbournians won’t even cross the river, you’ll never see nothing like the absolute pretense of a stuck up eastern suburbs Adelaidian. They are so rarified, monocultural and devoid of real life that anyone who has a foreign name, comes from the non-East is virtually treated as a lower class, uneducated individual with possible criminal intentions. These people too live in their rarified world (which consists of 10x10km and the CBD) by attending certain courses at certain educational facilities and then dealing with their own kinds only in the work place. Really it’s like watching a rabbit eating its own poo. If you’ve every been to Burnside Village, you will never see so many blonde bobs and white 3/4 pants worn by old grannies. The shops there absolutely have no substance and are operated by some local insulated hack too. It actually disguists me thinking about all this actually and it’s people like this that makes me never go back to Adelaide ever again.

    • peter Thornton says:

      08:38am | 08/09/09

      Those who blow hardest about the infiltration of outsiders to their little patch of God’s country are usually transplants themselves. Fact.

      Localism: It’s as Australian as Vegemite…

    • Sam Chowder says:

      10:13am | 08/09/09

      I live on the Gold Coast - I’m so far up myself I can see out of my mouth

    • Sean says:

      10:34am | 08/09/09

      One to keep an eye on is “Newport Quays”, the upmarket makeover of Port Adelaide. The character of the Port wil be transformed into a concrete & glass “yuppydom”.

    • Johnny C says:

      10:40am | 08/09/09

      So I suppose this News Corporation rent-a-column crowd of inverted snobs are living in Mount Druitt or St Albans or Logan City etc.

      No? Oh, so you’re not actually showing solidarity with the mythical working class you pretend to idolise just to dig at city progressives. And honestly, the latte / chardonnay cliches are laughable - it’s macchiato and pinot gris these days.

      BTW, Balmain hasn’t been working class since the 1970’s, so maybe Colgo should move to Merrylands and man the barricades for bogan values before the yuppies move in!

    • Butterfly says:

      10:43am | 08/09/09

      Effin funny…i can’t stop laughing…

    • Harry Person says:

      11:32am | 08/09/09

      Trust your local friendly Victorian to put the boot into Queenslanders whenever they get a chance. Methinks they doth protest too much!

      I must go now, I have to brush my tooth.

    • Sammy J of Brissy says:

      11:44am | 08/09/09

      Sandra says: “That’s right Rachel. Up in Queensland they is gettng real sovy-skated. One can discern the bride from the other wedding guests; she’s the one in the GOOD thongs. What’s more, places in Brisbane stay open for tea as late at 7.30 at night so you can still be home on time for your Milo. “
      Ahh yes, and here we have the ‘Ugly Southerner’. Not to be confused with regular Victorians or New South Welshmen, ‘Ugly Southerner’ is a term Queenslanders use for people from NSW and Vic who believe they are morally, intellectually and culturally superior to their fellow Australians up north. The kind of people who ridicule Brisbane just before packing up, moving, and living there forever. The kind of people who hate QLD yet can’t stay away, or stop talking about it. Well, Ugly Southerner, you are welcome here to the Sunshine State, because unlike you I am a friendly person who likes and has respect for his fellow Australian. Stay here for long enough and you just might become happy with yourself too.

    • brad says:

      11:50am | 08/09/09

      What I find very interesting with these suburbs, is they are usually full of the PC crowd, the dogooders and cafe latte elite. But will they accept a greater population of migrants into their suburb? Hell no.
      I say the government should set up some state housing in some of these suburbs so there can be a greater level of integration with the new arrivals.
      Anybody from Noosa agree?

    • F says:

      12:05pm | 08/09/09

      Here’s how it works: Take a place with a beach close to an Australian city. Build it up during a time of sudden economic wealth in 19th or 20th Century.  Throw in sudden economic downturn, its economy being sustained through being a traditional 1950/60/70s holiday spot, like Sempahore in SA.  Bring in mass air-conditioning in the 1970s which makes the big old traditional “summer place” idea redundant and expendable for traditional well-off - some suffering sudden downturn. Sell-off ensues.  Immigrants move in, buy up.  Rent out.  New culture develops.  Young people move in because they can afford it and it’s been emptied out of the dreaded Upper Middle Classes.  Some of the young people become film-makers, poets, actors, artists etc.  Some show up in media, their homes become status statements.
      Older types with money look on, wonder what it is in their own lives they are missing.  They endure divorce, family breadowns, personal “breakthroughs”.  They want something else. Some where else.  Somewhere real. Buy up old rentals at massively inflated prices.  Everything goes up.  Young move out.  Everyone else buys an Audi AWD and a dog.  Whole place smells like airport coffee.  They fight to enclose the community and shut others out at any cost.  Welcome to Semaphore, Henley Beach, St Kilda (Vic), Bondi.  Way it is.
      Blame West Greenwich, NYC.

    • Zed says:

      12:16pm | 08/09/09

      Sean (at 09:34am | 08/09/09), I doubt that Newport Quays will ever do well. Honestly, it’s poorly constructed and the eastern Adelaidian, if they were to move there couldn’t handle the fact that a few of the people there just might be locals that barrack for the Power. Honestly, they will be probably bathe themselves and their kids in betadine three times a day to provide themselves with a sphere of “insulation”. You can already see some sort of “gating” between that ugly development and the more natural and older bits around it.

      Brad (10:50am | 08/09/09) - I totally agree with you. Again, it’s the case of these people so far removed from reality and that they become so liberal about things but when they are confronted quite literally, it’s the “not in my backyard” mentality. I remember a few years back when Chaser did a skit of in a well-to-do Sydney suburb and asked residents on their opinion about a proposal of building a mosque in their area; the reaction was as you say Brad.

      And as to the Queenslanders out there, hold your heads up high. It’s actually a great state and people are really friendly and strangers will CHAT to you. It’s no secret that Victorians have the biggest inferiority complex in Australia and because Queensland is progressing, they find Queensland incredibly threatening. It’s about time that their neighbouring states shut the borders on them or something!!

    • Sh says:

      12:58pm | 08/09/09

      Yore rite, all the snobbs who think there edukated live in Kingston…..I live rite out in the suburbs…...Im not a bogun thow…...Im smarta than them peple who live in Kingston

    • Ray says:

      01:22pm | 08/09/09

      Living at none of those “poser locations”, I still say - is it really wrong to try to clean up some of those places? Yes, clean up, as opposed to leaving Bondi a “cockroach infested place full of out-of-work Kiwis”, as you’ve put it. So the “trendy teens” are breeding more snobs now, but is that necessarily a bad thing? Bring on the chrome and throw out the old pitted shag-pile. You might call them Posers, but I see them as Progressive.

    • Barry Stoddart says:

      02:11pm | 08/09/09

      Interesting concept “up yourself” or more correctly “up yaself”.. Thinking about it,  if you think someone thinks they are better than you and that upsets you (that they think they are better than you) then thinking they are worse than you (up themselves) means ,by default, that you think you are better then them. So you are “up yourself ” for saying they are (up themselves)

    • papachango says:

      02:25pm | 08/09/09

      @Johnny C - ‘And honestly, the latte / chardonnay cliches are laughable - it’s macchiato and pinot gris these days.’

      True, but you’re also behind. Pinot Gris was soooo 2006, it replaced Sauvignon Blanc. Then there was Pinot Grigio (apparently there is a difference), then Arneis and now Albarino is the ‘vin blanc du jour’. The trouble with being a poser is that you have to work damn hard to keep ahead of the masses wink

      @Brad ‘they are usually full of the PC crowd, the dogooders and cafe latte elite. But will they accept a greater population of migrants into their suburb? Hell no.’

      Outdated latte cliches aside, you’re bang on. See my definition of ‘radish’ above to describe these people. Some of them I know actually oppose private schools on ideological grounds, but justify sending their kids to one because they don’t want them to go to the local state school where most kids are from non-English speaking backgrounds. How ‘progressive’ is that?

    • Phil says:

      02:27pm | 08/09/09

      how the heck did fortitude valley get on the map???????

      This is what the valley has to offer..
      sex shops, dried vomit, stale urine, hookers, the Family planning clinic (2 door down ironically) from the brothel, drunks, smashed windows of empty shops. Kids chroming, police pulling people up for random drug searches. heavy traffic, highest number assults in brisbane.

      very classy for Brisbane I guess…...

    • Dave says:

      03:19pm | 08/09/09

      I was thinking about moving to Sydernee or Melbourne, but decided Kabul was more attractive out of the 3 worst degenrate third world shitholes on my list.

      Can we pay Saudi Terrorists to hijack Jetstar aircraft and ‘do improvements’ to Sydernee and or Melbourne? Maybe with the GFC some of the mining mobs might have some of those big bastard Bulldozers and other construction plant sitting idle that we can hire and just level both places and start again? Maybe we can hire out both cities to the French for Nuclear testing? It could be a financial gold mine for Australia. Win - Win!

    • SalC says:

      03:39pm | 08/09/09

      Matt H @ 7.15am:  We had the same problem!  Middle of February, naturally we had shorts.  All we wanted was an ice cold beer, but apparently we weren’t correctly attired.  Silly, because we’d bought beer from the same establishment only a few hours earlier…So my husband couldn’t have a celebratory drink for his birthday.  We went home.  Where do the bohemians go?  I don’t do heals.

    • Steve says:

      03:42pm | 08/09/09

      Wanna see the same thing that happened in Adelaide happen in Perth, Look up Herne Hill. Smack bang in the swan valley, yet anything within a bulls roar of Lamont’s vineyard commands seven figures. ten years ago a block could be bought for 380K. Now Same block is valued at $6,000,000
      Go figure.

    • Helen says:

      04:03pm | 08/09/09

      Joe Hildebrand’s wafflings about lesbians are homophobia pure and simple and it reflects badly on you that you quoted it so approvingly. Did a lesbian woman frighten you guys in your prams, or something? With all the bashings, robbings, arson and other depredations that straight males are carrying out on a daily basis, just how are lesbians having any impact on your terrified little lives, Joe and Tory?

    • papachango says:

      06:34pm | 08/09/09

      Helen@ 3:03pm

      You seriously need to chill, you’re seeing homophobia when there is none. Anyway you’re being heterophobic and sexist with your attacks on straight males. The Northcote stereotype could equally have been university administrators who only eat biodynamic mung beans, or avant garde artists who follow the anti-rationalist manifesto. But then I guess we’d have those PC types on our case too.

    • pantsdave says:

      09:29pm | 08/09/09

      Bondi, straight up, poser capital of Australia, no competition. R.E.L is on the money - Bondi wants to keep out _anyone_ not from Bondi, not just westies. Which can only be a good thing, really. We’ll all stay out as long as they promise to stay in…..or at least come no further south than Tamarama.

    • Chris K Cook says:

      01:19am | 09/09/09

      They were talking about Kingston in the ACT Rob, they were talking about North Hobart.

      You are spot on with Battery Point

      There is a vast Difference between a Bohemiean Suburb that has Nice Cafes being infested with Yuppies on weekends and somewhere where the yuppies have moved into and ruined. Everyone I know in North Hobart (where I live) are Unemployed or Artists or have shit jobs in the retail or hospitality industries or are students. Yep that’s real poser teritory, idiot. Note to ‘Vince’: Piss off back to Mummy and Daddys place or Battery Point, ‘cause thats where you belong.

      And North Hobart is a bit like say Lygon Street, Sure it gone a bit up market but the food places are still affordable and genuinely multi-cultural. Battery Point and Salimanca is where the overpriced ‘Cool’ places are.

    • Margaret says:

      07:59am | 09/09/09

      I have lived in many of the nominated suburbs, as well as places like the Illawarra and other “non cool” areas in 4 states. I began my adult life living in Battery Point in Hobart.  In those days the suburb would have been described as bohemian, with a rich culture of its own in terms of history, artists, working class, sailors and local characters.  It had cafes - cheap ones & the pubs were interesting to say the least.  I suppose it is good that some of these tiny, damp infested houses in the places like Erskineville & Battery Point are bought by people who have the money to fix them up & give them a new lease of life.  But the sad thing is that the character & interest has now been lost and the communities have become very boring & homogenous.  My point is you cannot buy “cool” & the best Latte I have had can be found in Michels in Crown Central..Wollongong - a very libeable city with a rich & interesting culture of its own

    • linny says:

      01:33pm | 09/09/09

      you missed Noosa Heads, full of up themselves w*nkers, who continue to argue against amalgamating with all of us plebs living in the central and southern Sunshine Coast…because Noosa is “special” mwahhahahaha.  As a business owner, I can tell you most of them live on credit too, and take forever to pay their bills. And in northern NSW, Byron is too full of druggies and fruitcakes - for up themselves posers, you need to go to Lennox Head or Bangalow.

    • heather says:

      02:08pm | 09/09/09

      10 Ways to Identify a Wanker Suburb.
      1) When extending a friendly greeting to a stranger, they look at you as if you just let out a loud, wet fart. Or stood on a kitten.
      2) The prices of goods in boutiques and shoe shops could feed a starving African family for a month. Why do wanky suburbs have so many shoe shops? With so many uncomfortable looking shoes? Can *anyone* walk in a six inch leopard spotted stiletto shoe? And why do they want to?
      3) A plethora of European cars, mostly in poor condition, because the owners can’t afford the repayments AND maintenance. And of course, spotless 4WDs that have never seen dirt…hey, they’ve never even seen the outer suburbs, let alone the bush.
      4) Lots of cyclists. On very expensive bicycles. Wearing pseudo-sponsored lycra. Extremely ill mannered and unfriendly, and think they own the road/coffee shops. Even more stuck up than horse riders and yachties.
      5) Restaurants/delis where the identical product is double the price of the bogan suburb down the road. For a smaller portion. And do we really need to go into the menus? How many ways can a wanky restaurant describe a basic foodstuff? All characterised by bizarre food combinations; lobster with lemon curd and pork crackling anyone?
      6) Snooty waiters are de riguer; the more up itself a place is, the snootier the waiters are. Dude, you are a WAITER, I am PAYING you to SERVE me; do you get the message?
      7) Hairdressers. Thousands of them. Charging $100 or more for a haircut. And day spas; and cosmetic surgery places, where you can top up your botox on your lunch break (that is, assuming you are such a bogan that you need to have an actual JOB).
      8) “Creative” people; who mysteriously seem to support themselves despite an obvious lack of: a) talent, b) actual creative output and c) stuffing all their money up their noses. Leading to
      9) Drugs. If the posers are not on coke etc, then they are stuffed to the gills with legal drugs. Posers always have lots of syndromes, necessitating drugs like Prozac (which helps them keep skinny); and their children are also drugged to the eyeballs on Ritalin etc.
      10) Careers in marketing, advertising, consultancy, life coaches etc, the work which apparently only consists of endless telephone calls/emails on one’s latest Smartphone and extensive socialising at restaurants; all the bogans who actually do any work are bussed in from the Western suburbs; that is, assuming said wanky suburb has any public transport.

    • im says:

      06:03pm | 09/09/09

      West End, Qld. People have been posing there for years, happily co-existing with low lives.

    • intepid says:

      10:50pm | 09/09/09

      heather @ 01:08pm | 09/09/09

      “When extending a friendly greeting to a stranger, they look at you as if you just let out a loud, wet fart. Or stood on a kitten.”

      A stereotypical farmer from the 1960’s called– He wants his fatuous observation about city slickers back.

      When I respond to complete strangers who greet me on the street I invariably get:

      a) asked for money, or
      b) invited to take a survey or personality test, or
      c) treated to some earnest drug-addled jibberish or maybe a complaint about how many Indians/Muslims/Asians there are around here

    • James says:

      01:01pm | 10/09/09

      “Now it’s all expensive restaurants and real estate agents. Sure, it’s pretty, but there’s NO BEACH!”

      I disagree, as does Google Maps for instance.  WTF?  It’s like saying Bondi has no beach, in caps to boot.

    • bondi.bloke says:

      03:35am | 18/09/09

      As the whole world knows, BONDI really is a great place, but like practically everywhere in the planet, BONDI is crowded out with too many cars in the streets, especially during summer. One way to resolve this is to penalise those who drive there
      Pro development Mayor Sally Betts is a total thickhead anyhow, but to have come out saying this was plain stupid: she’s not the brightest lass in the class already. And of course the press crucified her for raising the parking fees: taxing the visitors.
      But the strategy is right: too many cars seeking too few spaces = revenue raising, especially for a cash-strapped council. Supply and demand rules.

    • Mark says:

      05:41pm | 25/09/09

      I’m outraged here in Northcote we’re surely poseurs not posers!

    • cityboy says:

      10:55am | 06/11/09

      Personally, I’m absolutely flabergasted that Surry Hills (NSW) was not at the top of the list, with East Redfern close by!

    • mo larry and curly says:

      04:34am | 08/11/09

      Breaking news—Article renamed “packawankers”

    • gav says:

      05:44pm | 14/12/09

      get a life. melb has crap weather crap beaches and no money. perth is the most overpriced place on the planet (but has great weather and great beaches and plenty of money). sydney nice but bankrupt. adelaide who cares. tassie dunno never been. queensland good affordable beautiful place. canberra no character and full of bloodsucker pollies who suck money from hard workers.  go on a overseas holiday as its more fun observing other peoples way of life than being green with envy. posers are everywhere not just bondi etc they are just camouflaged better is less well heeled suburbs. my experience in perth is that a lot of the posers are not the locals

    • Susannah says:

      09:48am | 15/12/09

      Give Balmain a break. It still has its fair share of ratbags and genuine eccentrics (as opposed to the tryhards). The real wankers these days live in Rozelle.

    • SC says:

      10:24am | 15/12/09

      God bless the Valley for being the only place I know of where you’ll get eyed off by hungry crackheads and pretentious yuppies right on the same corner. Little slice of heaven. If you get bored at one of the exclusive clubs, try walking around the streets for other night time attractions like glassings or fast food that’ll clear your stomach instead of fill it.

    • jennifer says:

      12:08am | 28/02/10

      What is up with most waiters and most bartenders I’ve come across in Melbourne (mainly in the Yarra Valley, Port Melbourne, Fitzroy, Westgarth, and the city)? They’re either pretentious and laid back or pretentious and severely dismissive & downright rude sometimes. For example, in Alphabet city cafe westgarth this ditzy redhead chick said that she wouldn’t work any where where they didn’t heat apple & rhubarb crumble. That was her reply after I asked her if they warm up the crumble haha.  I laughed because I thought she was taking the piss. She wasn’t! I got the impression that she was implying that I was stupid for even asking. I’ve been a Melburnian for almost a year and a half now and loving it, but should I expect any better from people in hospitality?

    • Tim says:

      02:27pm | 25/01/11

      I used to live in Fitzroy North then Northcote (Pram Central) I decided to give St Kilda a go loved the place the air from the beach must do it. Everything is overpriced and expensive.. So I moved East to East St Kilda where the cancer is still yet to hit.

 

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