We should cut the coppers some slack as they grapple with the public handling of the attacks on Indian students in Melbourne.

Victorian Police Commissioner Simon Overland.

Policing has long been a closed culture. Less than a generation ago the only way police reporters could get stories was to spend months or even years hanging around the Police Club, drinking with detectives and slowly building enough trust to get the inside running on big stories. These days, whenever a cat gets stuck up a tree there’s an expectation that an all-in press conference will follow within the hour to discuss its breed, name, and how the pesky little varmint got up there in the first place. 

There is no point in police complaining about this. It’s a reflection of the public’s legitimate conviction that information should flow freely from every arm of government. People have a right to know what is happening in their community and, these days, it is the job of the police to tell them.

But in telling these stories, the police have their hands and frequently their tongues tied by the principles which underpin the legal system - the rules of evidence, the presumption of innocence, issues going to identification. The last thing they want to do is stuff a case by saying something intemperate which points to guilt. As a result they often end up saying nothing or, worse, saying things which sound completely laughable to even the most reasonable person.

The Indian attacks in Melbourne have provided a rich vein of garbled copper speak.

A Sikh Temple gets burned to the ground by a firebomb in the dead of night and we’re told that there is as yet no evidence that any person or persons have or have not have engaged in an act of arson on racial or religious grounds. In much the same way that mosques just spontaneously combust, or churches set themselves alight.

The attacks on individuals have prompted similar narratives - a male person in a turban decamped at speed in a northerly direction after being assaulted at a train station by three men described as Anglo-Saxon, medium build, blonde hair, and there is as yet no evidence to suggest that race was a factor in the alleged attack.

Unfortunately the Victorian Police Commissioner Simon Overland has been the worst offender.

His first mistake was that he didn’t seem to have resolved whether he was speaking in a purely operational matter on these many incidents, or trying his hand for a role with the Department of Foreign Affairs.

Overland was correct in his assessment that we are no more racist, and considerably less racist, than other nations. One of the reasons there are so many students of Indian extraction in Australia is that a country such as Malaysia won’t let many of them go to university at all, under an explicitly racist tertiary education system which places quotas for Malay students to the exclusion of Indians and Chinese.

But that said, it’s really not Simon Overland’s job to muse publicly as to whether Australia is less racist or more racist than other countries. It’s his job to make sure that the bad guys get caught.

Worse though has been his vacillation and double-speak on whether there is evidence that Indians are over-represented as victims in the crime statistics. Overland has spent much of the past six months arguing that there is no such evidence. Yet three days ago he finally revealed that “there is no question” that Indians are more likely to be robbed in Victoria than other races.

You can imagine how this backflip will be interpreted by the more reckless sections of the Indian press, who could teach us tabloid types in Australia a thing or two about how to best beat up a story.

The kind of leadership we need on this issue came this week from Major General Peter Cosgrove, who is the very antithesis of a black-armband handwringer on this or any other issue. But with straight talk and plain language Cosgrove said it is undeniable that there is a small and ugly section of the Australian population that is demonstrably racist, and that in some instances, it’s been Indians who have been victims of this racism.

To suggest otherwise seems a nonsense. 

In NSW the Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione has been forced to increase officer numbers for Australia Day after the sickening spectacle last year, where VB-fuelled yahoos draped in our national ensign were monstering passers-by for refusing to kiss the flag or join the Aussie Aussie Aussie chorus, a song so lyrically bereft that it’s amazing anyone is prepared to sing it publicly.

The fact that Australia is home to a number of these halfwits is not cause to weep for the nation, or to regard ourselves as a special case on the world stage. The British National Party increased its vote last year to win seats in the European Parliament, the French are dealing with a resurgence by Jean-Marie Le Pen; be they organised or disorganised, these people can be found everywhere.

The strange thing about Australia though is that some people seem determined to deny the reality of their existence, rather than acknowledging them and tackling them head on as Cosgrove did with such powerful and direct language the other day.

As for the Victorian Government installing Justin Madden as the Minister for Respect, it looks more like touchy-feely window dressing than an attack on the lawless and uncivilised. Australia has not become more socially inclusive because Julia Gillard bills herself as the Minister for Social Inclusion. It’s doubtful whether Madden, as the Aretha Franklin of politics, will usher in a new era of respect by dint of this gimmicky name change.

Cosgrove has given us the model here. An honest recognition of a real problem which is being perpetrated by an ugly minority. To which you could add - and a police force that is going all-out to tackle the problem, rather than giving a worthless running commentary on how we rank internationally in the racism stakes. 

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    • persephone says:

      07:49am | 23/01/10

      Don’t have journos have a responsibility to be credible, too?

      As any cursory search of their website shows, Victoria police were aware of (and investigating) the rise in attacks on Indians well before it came to the attention of the media.

      They concluded (based on the data they had) that the attacks were, by and large, not racist in nature, but due to the types of work (taxi driving, working at convenience stores at night) Indians were undertaking.

      They have been working now for a couple of years with the Indian community to work out how best to approach these issues.

      Academic studies such as

      http://proceedings.com.au/isana2009/PDF/paper_Spolc.pdf

      have studied the data available, and concluded that the perception that the attacks are racist in nature aren’t supported by the evidence - and blames the media for ‘beating up’ the issue.

    • Paul says:

      08:31am | 23/01/10

      Fair points but look at how rascism and hate and fear of the imaginary ‘hordes’ from the north was fueled by the Libs banging on about the ‘illegal’ brown boat people , while the real masses of politically correct plane-people cum refugees got a free pass. The race card was played again to score cheap political points. Australia is still a dog chasing its tail on race. We all have a part to play in debating the facts and solutions openly, instead of carrying like a bunch of emotional bogans (or encouraging them) and letting bumbling bureaucrats like Police Chiefs put their own opaque Orwellian speak on issues and perhaps allow problems to fester. (And is the Police Chief Orwellian or just plain inept?) Either way, he will get his butt kicked by the Indian community and International Indian press. We can all do better than this,  including News Limited David.

    • Karl says:

      07:23pm | 28/01/10

      Don’t you just love the way the usual suspects claim the moral high ground pointing an accusing finger at others and screaming “racist” whenever their own personal agendas are challenged.
      Yes AT I am referring to you.

    • Eric says:

      10:52am | 23/01/10

      Paul, the only ‘race card’ being played in Australian politics is the continual bleating of the multicultis like you, about how racist everyone else is.

      I suspect a great many Aussies are turned off the issue by distortions and attacks such as yours.

    • AT says:

      11:40am | 23/01/10

      And yet, Eric, anti-multicultis like you never seem to have a legitimate counter argument, youse just launch a petulant sooky bleating attempt to turn the tables.

      I suspect a great many Aussies are turned off your opinion by insecure and disingenuous attacks such as yours.

    • Cuppa says:

      03:34pm | 23/01/10

      Eric i couldnt agree more.AT, dont you have a placard to wave or a rally to attend somewhere…...

    • AT says:

      07:05pm | 23/01/10

      If I did, Cuppa, I betcha my placard would argue a more cogent relevant case than a hundred of your posts.

    • nic says:

      11:52am | 23/01/10

      Penbo, I think the issue is more complicated than the one you have summarised. In a previous blog post at the Punch, an example of a railway station in south east Melbourne was used. It basically told us that taxi drivers were ferrying people 200 metres home because they were too scared to walk that distance. Also mentioned was the fact that the station had at its entrance, first an islander gang and then a sudanese gang, whose intentions were to harass passengers.

      The problem comes down to the police unable to crack down on violence and anti-social activity full stop. I’d love to see the statistics as to exactly who have been targeting Indians. Sure, there are plenty of bogan boneheads such as the group you describe making people kiss the flag, though to suggest that all such problems are perpetrated by ‘racists’ without providing details as to ‘who’ are committing such acts does not help to give us an honest picture of what is going on. I suspect it would give us a picture of some other, uncomfortable realities.

    • Harquebus says:

      12:30pm | 23/01/10

      We don’t have any police, we have law enforcement officers. Brain dead robots following their political programming.

    • Dalma S says:

      01:14pm | 23/01/10

      Commissioner Overland is twice as eloquent as Christine ( what’s her name again ) former Commissioner from the banana state ?. He peformed magnificantly, and his press corps responded with appropriate derision. Overland is no silver tail, like Turnbull, nor a member of our dautless Diplomatic Corp, but to be fair, he is no professional in the PR stakes, and the underbelly saga has got the better of him. Crime is rampant beneath his nose, and his constablary is in disarray, what with the gang land shooting massacre, mepth and ice scare, and all the other vice ridden debauchery over taking the State. Jeez, we better move to the Gold Coast, to get as far away from this drunken mob hey !

    • Terry Wright says:

      03:24pm | 23/01/10

      Who’s fault is it that Simon Overland has resorted to political type spin?

      When Overland was first appointed, he commented that he supported harm minimisation strategies that dramatically cut costs and actually lowered crime. He backed prescription heroin for addicts and regulating the sale of drugs via government control if the evidence supported it. As a police officer dealing with drugs for decades, he is aware of the major flaws in our current system but was brave enough not to be perturbed by the usual government “Tough on Drugs” rhetoric and political posturing. Unlike previous or other Police Commissioners, he spoke his mind and it seemed like we were finally going to have a rational and sensible commissioner.

      But instead of applauding him, the media, the politicians and the moral crusaders hammered him. It seems that any honest, logical statement that doesn’t follow the old tough on crime approach or goes against the public’s distorted views is leapt on by the sensationalist media and made even worse. What hope does he have?

      No wonder he is starting to sound like a politician who cares more about the media than getting results.

    • Harquebus says:

      04:46pm | 23/01/10

      Simon Overland is a law enforcement officer, not a police officer. Robots I call them.

    • Bill says:

      04:28pm | 23/01/10

      We never demand rights for victims, we only hear demands of more rights for criminals.  This is the Police Service you asked, whinged and bleated for and demonise every chance you get.  Welcome to what you created.

    • sue says:

      04:47pm | 23/01/10

      I think there is no doubt that there is a surge in the rampaging of offensive flag waving. It all started after the Cronulla riots when the media led the charge to oppose it when the organisers of the Big Day Out, or whatever event it was, tried to stop hoons from attending draped in their caped crusader Aussie flags. From that day on it has gone from bad to worse to the extent that I, and Anglo Australian, find it scary and worrying.  I dread Australia Day and hearing of what these idiots have done next to shame us. What happened to the times when Aussies instinctively rejected that sort of mindless jingoism and Australia Day was just a day to chill out not wave the flag.  The other day in the local shopping centre a store preparing for Australia day by putting out for sale some offensively racist T-shirts, yeah, the flag once more with some offensive words beneath.  The Government needs to do something. The whole situation needs to nipped in the bud.  Thankyou Peter Cosgrove for having the balls to just say it like it is.  ...what is it they say.. you can’t change what you don’t acknowledge.

    • peter from brisbane says:

      08:53pm | 23/01/10

      In every state and territory of Australia, the Police Chief is a Politically appointed hack.. When the Government changes, the Police Chief changes. It was not always like that. I am a former member of the Victoria Police and in my day the Chief was selected by differant methods. In my opinion the best Chief we ever had in Victoria was Reg Jackson, followed by Mick Miller. When I joined, Selwyn Porter was the Chief,  and he was ex Military They all acted independently of the ruling Govt.. Nowadays, it’s pathetic, the street Police have no support from the senior ranks, no support from the judiciary, and no support from the Government, and the Police Chief will say and do whaever he is told to say or do.
      Can anyone tell me if they had ever heard of Overland before the crims started blowing each other away in the drug wars. Before task force Purana, he was an unknown.. We have a similar Chief here in Queensland, Atkinson, and he is another Politically appointed hack. I cannot understand why anyone would want to be a Policeman today. Terry Wright says that Overland supported, “harm minimisation strategies”. What does that mean?

      We should have zero tolerance in the streets, and get those malingering magistrates to start dealing out some real penalties and make it harder to post bail.

      The Politicians should do away with that stupid “seperation of powers” garbage and start making magistrates and Judges accountable for their perfomances After all, they are Public Servants so they should be accountable for their actions

    • Jay says:

      05:03pm | 25/01/10

      Yeah, and by the time those three Commissionershad finished the Victorian police were involved with more fatal shootings than all the other Australian services combined and needed a Royal Commission to clean up the corruption!

      If you reckon zero tolerance of the sort seen in New York is necessary, do some more reading on the subject. Demographic changes had more to do with the drop in crime than the policing policies.

    • Paul says:

      11:28pm | 23/01/10

      @eric who said everyone* is rascist? You?  You need to learn to read Engrish. All I suggested was that it was probably in everybodies interests for the Police Chief and the media to play it with a straight bat. Apart from hysteria and violence, big export dollars are at stake on this issue. It’s best if you keep your opinionless comments to yourself Eric. Fact: rascism - real, imaginted or exaggerated - swings elections and sells newspapers here and overseas Mr Monocultis.

    • stephen says:

      02:53am | 24/01/10

      I’ve seen Simon Overland in interview. I don’t trust him.

    • DWest says:

      09:54am | 24/01/10

      Cuppa, it’s time for you white- armband brigade to pucker up son. Less talk, more flag kissing.

    • Ned says:

      09:49am | 25/01/10

      It would also help journalistic credibility if - just for once - Peter Cosgrove’s military rank were properly stated. He retired as a full General, therefore his correct title is General Peter Cosgrove (ret). A Major General is two full ranks below that to which he rose.

    • SteveB says:

      05:20pm | 25/01/10

      If we’re going to get picky Ned, I’m sure Gen Cosgrove would like his Companion of the Order of Australia (AC) and his Military Cross (MC) remembered as well.

    • pete says:

      10:05am | 25/01/10

      in the ACT we have the AFP who are responsible for “community policing”.  A vague enough term in itself, but after requiring police assistance once, I was told “we dont do that anymore”  Frankly they dont appear to do much of anything anymore.
      I think the AFP’s idea of “community policing” is that the community does it.  I kid you not, I have lived here in excess of 15 years and in all that time I have only undergone 1 RBT

    • m@ says:

      12:50pm | 25/01/10

      It may be better to discuss ideas regarding the ‘separation of powers’ at state as well as commonwealth levels of government in Australia (maybe it’s even time to examine alternate modalities of governance), instead of flip-flopping between half baked observations concerning what is, or what isn’t, too ‘political’/‘bureaucratic’/‘diplomatic’ from “Public Servants”. Although some opine and lust for a proto-fascist epoch; other headcount’s may prefer a maximum of government distance from matters of policing society. Those that worry about the ever increasing totality of our homogonised public debates - should be concerned by articles like this and even more so by this comment thread

    • cybacaT says:

      03:31pm | 28/01/10

      The Police have set a very low standard in public relations with their guff about speed cameras over the years, and it’s dented their credibility on all issues since.  By claiming speed cameras are about road safety when it’s patently obvious they’re being used primarily as revenue collection tools, makes it hard for I or any other rational Australian to take their comments seriously.
      Credibility takes years to develop and an instant to destroy.  They have a lot of work to do - and it’ll start with honesty about any racist driver for these attacks on Indian students.

    • CG says:

      03:35pm | 28/01/10

      Okay, so, if a white Australian (Anglo-saxon) person is attacked by a person of Indian heritage (born here or not) is that a race crime?  If not, then why isn’t it?  Isn’t that an attack on one “race” by another?  I think it all comes down to the circumstances under which the attack takes place.

      I was attacked by some Islanders at Central station some years ago.  Wasn’t that a race crime? Is it one now?  No, it was just a couple of people robbing me for money.  But if an Indian person was robbed by someone of Anglo Saxon appearance at the moment it would be a race crime.  Especially if it sells some more media.

      What about Australians killed overseas?  Aren’t those race crimes?  Why aren’t the Australian media reacting the same as the Indian media did to the poor chap murdered in Melbourne?  Speaking of which, what has happened with that investigation anyway it seems to have gone awfully quiet.  What will happen if it turns out that it was an Indian person who was responsible?  Everyone seems very happy to jump to conclusions and the media is no better these days.

      If people openly pronounce their hatred of another race and set about attacking them then I would call that a race crime.  These are the people no one wants in their community. 

      If someone attacks a person on the street out of opportunity I would simply call that a crime.

    • Brett says:

      04:15pm | 28/01/10

      Maybe it’s like this: you keep shoving food down a kids throat they are going to spit it back at you one day.
      For the last 10 years we have had this “Multicultural” thing being shoved down our throat, and the reality is most people don’t like it. Go out into the schools, the sports grounds and poor suburbs see the reality. Multiculturalism is not working. It will never work, especially with the latest arrivals from worn torn Africa and the Middle East. Even when Anglo whites are the minority it still won’t work between the brown and black people. Too many religions, beliefs, cultures, past ideologies, pushing and forcing their own agenda on others. Australia had a culture back in the 50, 60’s and 70’s. But you can barely see it now. I don’t blame our young people for resisting high immigration.

    • Sir Chocstah says:

      06:32pm | 28/01/10

      Australia had a culture long before the 50’s - the Aboriginal cultures, which were in Australia long before any other. The rest of us, Anglo or otherwise are the children of immigrants, whether our ancestors were on The First Fleet or recently arrived by aeroplane.

    • TIHII says:

      06:44pm | 28/01/10

      “Maybe it’s like this: you keep shoving food down a kids throat they are going to spit it back at you one day.”

      Well yeh, if you’re a kid.

    • so simple! says:

      08:15pm | 28/01/10

      ok then Brett, we have it on your say so that multiculturalism isnt working and most people dont like it. Glad we cleared that up!  Lets move on to something else more interesting eh ? Is there cricket on tomorrow ?

    • Matt says:

      04:41pm | 28/01/10

      Couldn’t agree more.  The mere fact that we live in a multicultural society means that if one person attacks another, there’s a pretty good chance they are of different ethnicity.  That’s doesn’t make it a ‘racist’ attack.  It is only ‘racist’ if ‘race’ is the motive, or one of the motives for the attack.

      I have no doubt that some attacks on Indians have been racist, just as I have no doubt that some of them are about money and violence.  As others here have said, Indians tend to be over-represented as late night convenience store clerks and taxi drivers.  This exposes them to more risk.  Robbing and bashing your taxi driver is wrong, but it isn’t racist, no matter where he was born.

    • Heather says:

      06:10pm | 28/01/10

      Yes. That is, I believe, the point of what the Vic police were originally trying to say: these attacks are crimes, but they weren’t crimes based on race, the race of the victim was actually immaterial as a motivation. I wish more people would understand this point.

      To the article: I do NOT doubt that racism exists in this country, but the race card in this instance has been severly overplayed. The Indian nationals in Griffith who was burned was allegedly killed by 2 other Indian nationals; much violence last year against Indian nationals in Melbourne is racist in nature, but is promulgated by others (particularly Pakistani nationals) who brought that into the country; other attacks are crimes based on a stereotype that an Indian student is more likely to have something of worth on his/her person.

      I find it interesting, however, that despite having a large number of Indian students/taxi drivers, etc in Brisbane, as in Melbourne, there is not the same rate of “racially motivated” attacks here. That bears looking at.

      It does need to be noted that more Australians died in India last year than Indian nationals in Australia—both instances are wrong, most are probably not racially based but due to time and circumstance, but clearly there is a crime issue in both countries that needs to be seen for what it is: crime.

      It woud be so much better if everyone could take a deep breath, stop trying to fob off this as simple racial issues and look at the real swing-set of reasons: some people are nasty pieces of work who think it’s okay to hurt others, and they’ll use any justification (be that poverty, race, boredom or kicks) to keep doing it.

    • Will says:

      03:51pm | 28/01/10

      Take the Union Jack off the Australian flag. Its presence gives one group the feeling they are more important than another, and implicitly endorses their racist drunken behaviour

    • Terry says:

      04:02pm | 28/01/10

      Aussie,Aussie,Aussie chorus not sung in public and why shouldn’t we other cultures scream and prey to allah or something crazy in there streets. Are you serious. Are you even Australian. I was born here and served my country in the Australian army for 8 years and i see no reason to drape myself in Australian flags and if wanted have a VB Fueled drunken day it is our right to. Not to beat people though maybe you should think of others before writing stupid comments that Aussies might take offence to.

    • AFR says:

      04:17pm | 28/01/10

      Well, CG, it depends. If you were attacked BECUASE you were white, yes, that is a race crime. Same for Indians or anyone else for that matter.

    • Robh says:

      04:24pm | 28/01/10

      All I ask is that if the media are going to sell more advertising by “playing the race card ” as they say every time a non anglo saxon gets assaulted how about revealing the racial background of the attackers (even if born here ) when caught instead of just calling them all Australians and letting the rest of us cop the blame too or would that take a bit too much moral courage ?

    • Marty says:

      04:49pm | 28/01/10

      I thought Afghans were cookies?

    • Please, explain it to me. says:

      04:43pm | 28/01/10

      Most attacks on taxi drivers are against male taxi drivers.

      Is this because the thugs are sexist, or because men are over represented as taxi drivers?  If it is because they are over represented, how is that different to Indians?

    • Sam says:

      04:47pm | 28/01/10

      CG…Once is an accident, twice a coincidence but any more is a pattern. How many times have you read about a white Australian (Anglo-saxon) attacked by a person of Indian heritage?? Let me guess…never. The attacks on Indians have been far too many to ignore them as random or opportunistic attacks. Everyone knows there is a minor group in our society that is intolerant and the quicker we acknowledge that, the quicker we can address.

      Sue - I couldn’t have said it better. You can’t change what you don’t acknowledge. Hats off to Peter Cosgrove for coming out with a straight bat.

    • Bill says:

      04:48pm | 28/01/10

      You will rarely get anybody to admit racism. Why would you. Remember that Chk Chk Boom Girl? Crucified for what she said. Face in all the papers, had to explain herself. And I don’t even think she meant it maliciously.
      The media prowl around like sharks trying to find anybody willing to say something. So we will never know the real extent of it.

    • David says:

      04:55pm | 28/01/10

      It is bigotory to say Australians are racists because of the actions of the few.  It is bigotory to always point the finger at caucasions.  If I made a claim that because of someones nationality they must be a thief because those of that nationality I know are thieves I would be howled down.  But call all Australians racist because a few who probably are not even Australian citizens, seems to be acceptable.  Hypocricy at its best.  Newspapers, politicians and other social commentators need to stop generalisation as they are breaking the law.  The claims of Australians are racist has created anger by Indians towards Australians, that is an act of racial vilification and jailable.

    • rene kalas says:

      05:40pm | 28/01/10

      Since exactly when and how did Australia just become racist all of a sudden in the last few years?  Have people forgetten the racism that has existed for many many years?  I know my older relatives and friends who came here say 30-40+ years ago were subjected to racist attacks and abuse, and even I as a mediterranean or “w**” copped racist remarks etc.. growing up.  The simple fact is racism will always exist because there are physical differences between races and not all can accept those differences and so the feelings of racism can never be stamped out, but yes racist remarks and violence should be stamped out as much as possible.  But we also need to ensure that we do not forget about reverse racism, where white people are victims but nowdays it seems that it seen as okay to be racist against whites because they are white.  This type of thing probably does not help the whole scenario.

    • Jack says:

      10:24pm | 28/01/10

      Rene, loved where you were going right up until you said “reverse racism”. If an Anglo-Saxon verbally attacks an Asian because he/she is Asian that is racism. If an Asian verbally attacks an Anglo-Saxon based on race that is racism as well. There is no such beast as “reverse racism”. Racism is racism no matter which way it goes, Anglo-Saxons are not teh only peoples on the face of this planet capable of racism, as some of the press in this country would have you believe.

    • Chris says:

      06:30pm | 28/01/10

      When the Americans looked at their Bill of Rights are realised it needed some alterations, the first amendment was written in part “Congress shall make no law respecting .... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;....”  Our media should not have to get onto good terms with the Police to get an ‘inside story’ the work of the Police, with the exception of ongoing case information, should be transparent and available in full to the media so that corruption can be exposed and while we are exposing corruption this stupid idea that a criminal can have their name suppressed in the media, justice must be seen to be done.  No more secrets, no more media beat-ups for ratings and impact, let’s have some solid facts based on official releases that are written up by credible journalists.

    • Robh says:

      06:57pm | 28/01/10

      I don’t doubt that this is true John . Were Australia somewhat more discriminating in terms of who was let into the country and more willing to toss out those who overstepped the bounds of what most Australians would consider civilized behavior,  the unfortunate Indians who by and large come here prepared to study hard and find work where they can , would be a lot safer.

    • jimbo says:

      07:10pm | 28/01/10

      Isn’t labeling a whole country or race of people under the same tag racism ?
      Anyone that is calling Australia a racist nation should check themselves.
      I

    • Jenni says:

      07:24pm | 28/01/10

      The trouble is that we cant have a real debate without the other side being called racist, no matter what the facts “quote - latest development from Griffith” - hardly a racist attack when you are supposedly killed by someone from your own country is it?
      The pro immigration supporters are using every dodgy trick in the book to convince ordinary Australians that the flood gates should be opened for everyone and anyone to come no matter who.
      Well I can tell you this matey, the average Aussie has had a gutfull and it is coming to a stage where enough is enough, and whilst immigration shouldn’t be stopped entirely we should be only letting those who are fair dinkum, that are prepared to accept our democratic and Australian way of life and who are prepared to mix and not set up their own cultural and religious barriers (yes, reverse discrimination against us - time someone did something about it).
      And if people like you are not getting the message you had better start listening very hard because something is very much in the wind and you will hear it loud and clear very soon.

    • Rock says:

      08:33pm | 28/01/10

      Funny enough one of the reported racist attacks seems to be just a plain alleged murder and does not involve one bit of racisism (unless it is a caste based attack). But lets not let the facts get in the way of a blowing up the original story to make it appear racist.

      http://www.news.com.au/national/married-couple-arrested-after-indian-mans-body-found-burnt-dumped/story-e6frfkvr-1225824337745

      As the very story at teh head of this discussion admits it seems the press is going out of its way to inflame the racist line wherever it can as we all know it sells more papers, as opposed to waiting for the truth to be told. The press then hide using the pathetic banner “the public wants to know” to prevent it from being accused of racism itself. In all honesty to be able to report like the general press has in these matters indicates that many reporters have racist tendencies by trying their best to inflame the situation rather than reporting truthfully.

    • Turtle says:

      08:34pm | 28/01/10

      It is now 17.30 PM WA Time 28/1 and it has now been reported that the people responsible for the muder and burning of an Indian in NSW were themselves Indian. An initial report of witnesses to one of the attacks in Melbourne were that they were of “Asian appearance”. Interesting that this little point suddenly disappeared from news stories to keep the racism thing going in the news. Personally I doubt that many of these so called racism attacks are actually caused by us true blue Aussies.

    • gb says:

      09:03pm | 28/01/10

      Is it racist to target people who are likely to be a “soft touch”?

      I don’t condone any violence, but calling it racist when it’s more about picking on the week is not helpful.

    • Mark says:

      11:21pm | 28/01/10

      Are the ten Aussies MURDERED in INDIA since 1999 considered race attacks? Are the 200 WESTERNERS MURDERED in India since 1999 considered race attacks? Oh wait, let’s sweep that under the carpet, nothing to see here.

    • Peter says:

      11:21pm | 28/01/10

      I’m fast getting tired of all this racism talk in the media. Isn’t it considered racism to apply generalisations to a group of people based on their nationality? And yet that’s what’s increasingly happening to us when Indian and American press point their finger and say that Aussies are racist. Why do our own journalists feel a need to jump on that band wagon too?

      What’s more, isn’t it racist to assume that the only quality an Indian student has that could result in an attack is his nationality? White Australians are attacked all the time and our assumptions range from things like the victim must have said or done something to offend someone to they must’ve been in the wrong place at the wrong time and more… We recognise that there are any number of personal and/or completely impersonal reasons that the attack occured. To assume the only reason an Indian could be attacked is his ethnicity is deeply racist.

      Wake up to yourselves.

    • liju says:

      09:58pm | 30/01/10

      yeh Mark, Paul etc, one easily gets tiered when truth is spoken on to your face.

      Just go back to your own history to learn how “less racist” Aussies have been throught your own history esp western australia since James starling. Look into fate of the natives.

      Read about the 1905 Aboriginal Act to 1975 Racial discrimination Act and what continues if you guys did not have true history lessons in your schools.

      1893 educational act to later amendments and history following !!!
      How are they thriving in thier own land, where they and their ancestors have been for tens and thousands of years?

      I was reading above that there is no evidence for racism based on the data. This is a country where aboriginal children were seperated from biological parents as there was “sceintific evidence” that they are incapable of bringing them up !!!!
      Well,  when could the native of that continent for thousans of years could own thier own land????
      Certainly you guys are not Racist. Hmmmm !!!!

 

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