If you ever suspected that our major political parties got their leaders mixed up on the way to Question Time, this week’s Essential Report will come as no surprise.

Is it a Lib - or an ALP man? Who can tell? Illustration: Chris Deal

In a sign of life catching up with the punch-line, half the nation now thinks that our political parties are becoming closer ­ and the majority of them think it’s no bad thing.

The convergence of our major parties has not happened overnight, the rise of centrist politics around the world has been a hallmark of the post-Cold War consensus. But in Australia it has reached its zenith, where the last two leaders of the Liberal Party both openly flirted with their political opponents.

In the case of Malcolm Turnbull, 63 per cent of voters say this revelation makes little difference to their attitude to him -­ a sign that either we either no longer value Party loyalty, or that Malcolm has totally bottomed out in our estimation.

At the same time, the Labor Party has attempted to distance itself from its union base, making high drama of any opportunity to stand up to union “muscle” ­ even if it means jailing workers for attending a union meeting.

In NSW, the Liberal Party is attempting to outflank the ALP from the Left, opposing the privatisation of the power industry and positioning itself as the champion of public services, while the besieged Government pins its hopes to its AAA credit rating.

It’s enough to squeeze what little passion remains out of the political debate -­ if everything tastes like cola, who cares if its Coke or Pepsi?

So, as a special community service, we today unveil The Punch’s Definitive Guide To Telling The Difference Between Operatives from the ALP and the Liberal Party.

1. Labor operatives flaunt their business credentials while Liberal operatives flaunt their working class credentials (including the fact they once rented!)

2. When someone from Labor talks of values they are grasping for their Light on the Hill. When someone from the Liberals talks of values, they are grasping for their stock portfolio

3. Labor identities have nicknames that involve the unimaginative shortening of their surname; Liberals just go by their surname

4. Liberal identities have three properties; Labor identities have three chins

5. Labor characterises Liberals as social vandals, while Liberals characterise Labor as fiscal vandals

6. Liberal figures seek closer ties with the Chinese; Labor figures eat Chinese

7. The Labor Party battles branch-staking, the Liberal Party doesn’t have branches

8. Labor women wear faux furs and animal prints while Liberal women wear real pearls and twin sets

9.
Liberal ex-leaders are statistically more likely to live out their days with their wives. Ironically, Labor ex-leaders are statistically more likely to keep their pants on in public

10. Labor ex-leaders are more likely to write books that people will read

The last point is significant for me. Labor’s rich history of ideas and idealism means that despite the closing of the ideological gap, there is still a difference for me.

And every now and then, leaders like Paul Keating and John Howard come along who actually shift the axis from the centre and attempt to write history in their political favour. In doing so ­ love them or loathe them - they give politics back its meaning.

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    • rufus says:

      06:14am | 08/09/09

      Very witty Peter, but aren’t you supposed to use the traditional cliche ‘tweedledum and tweedledee’? And is another difference that while both Labor and Liberals live in Liberal electorates, the Libs live in a better class of Liberal electorate?

    • delperro says:

      07:16am | 08/09/09

      I like the headline. ALP drink Pepsi. Libs take Coke. Was that just implied? Soz.

    • Jolanda Challita says:

      07:52am | 08/09/09

      Labor/Liberal are the same because they both follow the same process of dealing with issues, complaints and allegations and that proces is designed to cover up so as to protect Politicians and Government employees from being held to account and negatively impacting their reputation.  They are part of the ‘family’ and they protect each other.  They do not work for the people.  Education - Keeping them Honest
      http://jolandachallita.typepad.com/education/

    • Toddzilla says:

      08:01am | 08/09/09

      How about:

      Labor does opposition well. The Liberals do Government well.

      Labor is the spoilt child destroying everything in their sight because they think they are superior to everyone. The Liberals are expert repairers of Labor’s chaos.

      Labor voters think they’re smarter than their bosses. Liberal voters are their bosses.

      Labor believe there should be more money for those who don’t deserve it and less for those who do. Liberals believe the opposite.

      Liberal pollies have had head jobs (in their company). Labor pollies have only ever had hand jobs (best not to hurt the brain).

      Liberals expect their representatives to have had success in their business life. Labor views success as being able to fill in an ALP membership form.

      David Marr would vote Labor. David Marr wouldn’t vote Liberal (a big tick for the Libs).

      Labor is not a real word. Liberal is.

    • Dude says:

      08:15am | 08/09/09

      No, it’s just more Liberals are under the delusion that in someway, anyway they are and therefore feel better than somebody, anybody else, even though they can’t afford coke.
      If it wasn’t for the darker side of human nature, rightards wouldn’t exsist, Labour or Liberal. It’s just more of them hide in the Liberal camp.

    • Liz says:

      09:32am | 08/09/09

      Shame that whatever ilk they are they don’t all think of the long term gains for this country..the Libs seem particularly bad at this particularly under the last Government.When will we have a Government that puts things right for all the people all the time? As they are paid to do and generously.

    • Socrates says:

      09:55am | 08/09/09

      There’s a lot of irony in any political comparison.

      Such as: The party that has made a socialist fetish out of demonising anything to do with the United States - chooses to spell its name the American way.

    • Mark M Aldridge Independent says:

      10:09am | 08/09/09

      Considering that they conspire together to write the electoral act. and as such we must have a preference for all, and they both embrace 2 party proffered counting of ballot’s, either way the coke or pepsi pours, we end up with one or the other regardless of our sweet tooth . And to be honest after finishing the can, which ever we receive it still rolls in the same direction…....down hill….lol.

      At the next election why not we all choose fanta, or maybe lemonade, give the cans a miss and go for a 1 litre plastic bottle, try and find a container that rolls up hill maybe.

      I for one am sick of a lack of choice, and its about time we took another pathway to our future, and that will not be achieved doing as we have been over and over again.

    • Michael says:

      10:24am | 08/09/09

      Don’t bring my favourite acid mouth washes into this, the Labor and Liberal parties don’t deserve to be likened to such good drinks, they are both lucky to be compared to tap water sold as mineral water with a flavourless twist.

    • Toddzilla says:

      10:37am | 08/09/09

      Some comments on some stupid comments:

      Dude: “If it wasn’t for the darker side of human nature, rightards wouldn’t exsist”. Firstly, the original phrase is leftard, but lefties have since tried to turn is around because they couldn’t think of anything original… ever.

      Secondly, if the darker side of human nature explains why people are right-wingers, why are almost all murderous, dictatorships and regimes, socialist, left-wing regimes (see Stalin, Hitler (and don’t even pretend he wasn’t a lefty as most leftards do), Lenin, Amin, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Chairman Mao, etc)?

      Liz thinks politicians in Australia are paid generously - what a joke? They are paid a pittance and we expect the earth from them. But if you pay peanuts you get monkeys, I suppose.

      And Mark, my dear, mentally unstable friend, how do you anticipate a parliament would work if there was no ruling party. Do you really believe independents are going to propose legislation that would be signed off by the rest of Parliament? And what is wrong with a two-party preferred system? All that means is that of the top two candidates in the electorate, the one who holds the seat is preferred to the other… or do you desire a system of minority rule - doesn’t sound very democratic?

    • pc says:

      11:28am | 08/09/09

      Todzilla, So Hitler was a leftard? I know the name national socialism is confusing for someone like you - that is someone who thinks Toddzilla is imaginative But I guess thats all you know. In Germany throughout the late 20’s and early 30’s there were pitched street battles between the communists and the fascists. They had a whole civil war in Spain. And then of course there was the second world war. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge were defeated by the Vietnamese communists, not Rambo. I know you have difficulty telling fiction from reality but ‘inglerious basterds’ - its fiction.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      11:41am | 08/09/09

      Toddzilla, are you a Liberal staffer or just some Liberal flunky wannabe? (either way you are just dumb)
      Liberal and Labor are basically the same- same policies (except for industrial relations), same pork barrelling (liberals do it during boom period, labor during recession), same selling off government assets (except there is nothing left to sell), same rorting of the system by politicians. There’s not much difference between the political parties so you have to stuff up pretty badly by introducing something like Workchoices to get booted into opposition.

    • Dude says:

      11:43am | 08/09/09

      There’s no pretending here Toddzilla, hitler was the king of rightards, it’s a fact rightards are blind to, exposing your delusion. The other leftards you mention are excellant examples of misguided rightard solutions to rightard initated problems. It’s about power and a need to rule no matter how small your number. Talk about mentally unstable, study history and stop egnoring the stuff you don’t like.

    • Toddzilla says:

      11:52am | 08/09/09

      PC, you poor simpleton, your understanding of history is a little lopsided. Under what pretence would you describe Hitler as being right-wing? His policies aimed at central-control (very much a left-wing dream), establishing a national medical scheme similar to Medicare (or was Whitlam a fascist), introducing a dole payment system (sorry Hawkey, but you’re taking a pounding here). Strong union support and control (a principle tenet of the left). The name National Socialist Workers Party should’ve been a giveaway for you, but you’re a leftard. The pitched battles between the Pinkos and the fascists in Germany were basically a battle between two like-minded groups trying to wrest control of the nation. Violence to defend ideals, remember, is essentially a principle of the left. Being that you are clearly a lefty, you will, as all lefties do, steal from history and attempt to rewrite in a way the dullards who make up the left can swallow.

      And btw, Toddzilla is a nickname I’ve had since primary school. It is no more an attempt to be imaginative than, say, calling myself PC.

    • Davo from St Kilda says:

      12:02pm | 08/09/09

      @ Dude - ever heard of a spellchecker?

    • pc says:

      12:04pm | 08/09/09

      Violence to defend ideals as opposed to violence to defend power? Both right and left, at least claim to ideals. Alexander Solyzhinitsin (I didnt spell that right), perhaps the greatest soviet dissident author - alongside Milan Kundera - said that in order to make people do evil you must first convince them they are doing good. The problem with your history, Todzilla, and here I believe you are separate from rightard students of history, who know that a narrative is required to put all those facts into a structure that makes sense of them. Rather than just a series of sentences that in the end saying nothing. Your nickname wasnt todzilla in school, it was dunce.

    • Toddzilla says:

      12:51pm | 08/09/09

      So PC, you are unable to come to any conclusions that have not been spelt out for you, no matter how obvious and are incapable of validating your arguements. Your comments, of course, are apropos of nothing. How very leftarded of you. Do you ever think anything you don’t write?

    • R.E.L. says:

      12:53pm | 08/09/09

      I disagree with number 10 in your list.
      I recall that within weeks of Mark Latham becoming Labor leader, the major book stores were filled with books all about his life and rise to the leadership.
      Yet I could not find a single book about John Howard’s 30-year career.
      It’s not that people are more likely to read books by former ALP leaders than former Liberal leaders; it’s that:
      a) Liberals don’t feel the need to blow their own horns as much as Laborites so they just don’t write as many books;
      b) Publishers decide what we should/should not read and so they don’t publish Libs’ books when they are written

    • stephen says:

      01:18pm | 08/09/09

      Why would yer want a spellchecker swingin’ from a bloody tree ?

    • Marcus says:

      01:28pm | 08/09/09

      @R.E.L.: What are Peter Costello and Tony Abbott’s recent efforts if not “blowing their own horns”?  There are literally dozens of books about John Howard written by a wide spectrum of people from all sides of politics.  Plug “John Howard Books” into google or the search engine from any Australian book retailer and you’ll find them. 

      The one-eyed nature of the comments on this thread are very depressing. but not surprising.  No need to spread misinformation though.

    • Shelley says:

      01:34pm | 08/09/09

      What’s with the pixies’ pic? Who photo shopped the poor blighter’s nose?

      Are you one of the largest number of new media employees employed by our PM for media muscle Pete?

    • R.E.L. says:

      02:47pm | 08/09/09

      Marcus, I don’t know which version of Google you’re using, but I was talking about John Howard the former PM (as opposed to the other John Howards in the world about whom many books have been written) and only found 2-3 books about him specifically.

      You’ve provided 2 examples of influential Libs who wrote books recently. 2 does not prove anything (in fact they’re probably the exception to the rule).

    • Dan says:

      05:57pm | 08/09/09

      Toddvilla, if you honestly believe that Hitler was leftist, when fascism by its nature is a right wing phenomenen, then you are an idiot.

    • Micko says:

      09:43am | 09/09/09

      Liberals hacks wear school ties, Laborites were football club ties

    • elhombre says:

      04:08pm | 09/09/09

      Dan, that’s a devastating rebuttal of Toddzillas arguments, why not go all out and call him a poo poo head??
      The nazis campaigned as socialists. They were also nationalists but there is/was nothing inherently right wing about that, if you want to argue there is then (to quote Jonah Goldberg) you need to call Stalin, Castro, Arafat, Chavez, Guevara, Pol Pot, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt and John F Kennedy right wingers.

    • elhombre says:

      04:40pm | 09/09/09

      Danny boy, here is the Nazi position as stated by their chief idealogue Gregor Strasser who was one of Hitlers main rivals in the early years of the Nazi party.
      “We are socialists. We are enemies, deadly enemies, of today’s capitalistic economic system with it’s exploitation of the economically weak, it’s unfair wage system, it’s immoral way of judging the worth of human beings in terms of their wealth and their money, instead of their responsibility and their performance and we are determined to destroy this system whatever happens !” Is that enough for you ?

    • Dan says:

      05:19am | 10/09/09

      elhombre, fascism is by its nature a right wing movement. Virtually every leading expert on fascism has described it as such, not to mention Hitler’s anti-communism. Also, don’t call me danny boy.

    • elhombre says:

      12:39pm | 10/09/09

      Dan, you start out with abuse, another poster is an “idiot” because they don’t agree with you, yet you get all girly because someone is disrespecting YOU by calling you “danny boy” .. so you’re a hypocrite. You have been presented with evidence, real evidence from primary sources, of the leftist origins of Nazism which you ignore by citing vague “authorities” because they agree with your rusted on, infantile world view .. so you’re a labour voter. What is it with you lefties and brain dead hypocrisy ?

    • Dan says:

      09:06pm | 11/09/09

      I’m not the hyprocrute. I called Toddvilla an idiot, someone who has attacked others constantly. I make no apologies for that. That is NOT hyppocritical. As for you, what did I do? I just said don’t call me Danny boy, and then you call me girly. LOL You righties are ridiculous. You’re the abusive one, you’re the oversensitive one and you’re the hyppocritical one.

      Oh, and for Nazism, Hitler was anti-communist. He was not left wing, and nothing you say will make it so. Martin Blinkhorn, among others, know slightly more than you do.

    • elhombre says:

      12:07pm | 12/09/09

      “Nothing I can say can make it so” because I’m a “hypocrute” eh ? It’s impossible not to feel sorry for you leftards with your sad, hate filled little lives. I’m off for a game for a game of golf.

    • Dan says:

      12:56am | 13/09/09

      Look who’s talking. LOL

    • Belinda says:

      12:20pm | 02/02/12

      Our 2 major parties are so similar and yet we can still descend into name calling and mud slinging. Why can’t Australian’s try a bit of respectful debate for once. With the amount of travelling overseas Australians undertake, surely we have a decent perspective on how good we have things in Australia and yet all our air seems spent on whinging.

 

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