England has won the second Ashes Test in Adelaide by an innings and 71 runs. But if you think this summer of cricket has been hard to watch for average fans like us, spare a thought for Glenn McGrath.

Brad Haddin was one of six wickets to fall this morning in just 87 minutes. Photo: Ray Titus

In an interview with The Punch, the great paceman admitted the first two Ashes Tests have been tough going for him too.

“There were a few good moments obviously up in Brisbane in the first innings where Sids took the hat trick, but the last two innings watching our boys bowl has been pretty tough,” McGrath said.

“I don’t sit there and watch the cricket religiously but I listen to it on radio, and I have felt for the bowlers. I never enjoy it when they’re not playing well, so yeah, it has been tough.”

Unlike his former partner in crime Shane Warne, McGrath generally refrains from making controversial tweets, or from stepping into the commentary box. But make no mistake, the big man is as frustrated as anyone by our bowlers’ inability to take wickets.

“I prefer to watch when we’re playing well and I do get frustrated, especially when we’re not bowling as well as we could be. We’ve been bowling a bit on both sides of the wicket.”

Yeah. As in, about two feet either side of the wicket. And while our batsmen have hardly distinguished themselves so far this series – the evergreen Mike Hussey aside – it’s our hapless bowlers who have set the tone of rank incompetence

So where to now with England leading 1-0?

McGrath won’t be drawn on who to pick for the third Test in Perth. But he does have a word of advice for whoever the selectors go with.

“We haven’t been bowling in consistent areas. Our plan when I was playing was always to build pressure, to bowl maiden overs. England have scored much too freely.”

McGrath is busily promoting his new DVD Glenn McGrath: The Will to Win ($1 from each copy goes to the McGrath Foundation). Hopefully our pacemen will all find a copy under their tree at Christmas.

Bowling woes aside, the really telling moment of this match - a moment which could well be the defining image of the summer - was when Michael Clarke and Ricky Ponting both missed an outfield catch that could, and should, have been taken by one of them. Talk about a snapshot of the internal power machinations of Australian cricket at the moment.

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    • Peter Oataway, Hay, NSW says:

      11:27am | 07/12/10

      Surely the coach is responsible for failing to prepare the team and at 3-2 in the first 5 minutes on day one , I think we can consider this team was poorly prepared. Main selection IMO drop Tim Nielsen and his boss CEO James Sutherland permanently.

    • dovif says:

      11:28am | 07/12/10

      The selectors need to go, it is not defensible to
      1. keep carrying North, he is all-round not very good, cannot bat, nor bowl, he has been a passenger to the whole side
      2. employed bowling attacked that had been performing poorly, ie Johnstone and Hilfenhaus had average 35+ per wicket and Siddell is coming back from a year off
      3. choosing a spinner whose 1st class average is over 45, and then were surprise he got 3 wickets in 2 test at 100 a piece
      4. Pointing just had not perform, and the selectors had not blooded any now players

      The players and the selectors should both be embarrassed

    • Max Vaunted says:

      02:52pm | 07/12/10

      I think Ricky said it somewhere, the problem is mainly with our batters who need to perform better, and our bowlers who need to be putting more pressure on their batsmen. Oh and we need to field better too. Amazing eh? He’s quite right of course, some improvements like that should just about pull it up.

    • acotrel says:

      05:46am | 08/12/10

      Perhaps we need to investigate who’s been betting against Australia?

    • Super D says:

      11:31am | 07/12/10

      Any chance we can get Mcgrath and Warnie back?  They run rings around the current batch of journeymen.

    • Tom says:

      09:28pm | 07/12/10

      Stuart Clark is bowling the house down in the shield. He won the last ashes series for Australia. Line and length, pressure and ... wickets.

    • Pete from the sunshine state...Victoria says:

      07:27am | 08/12/10

      Good point Tom….need to put pressure on the pom batsmen…and hold those catches…the rest will take care of itself

    • AJL says:

      11:36am | 07/12/10

      How much will it take to get Pidge back on board as a bowling coach?  He is 100% right-if you at least bowl in the right areas and restrict the scoring, they’ll eventually make a mistake and get out.
      Oh, and can we restore the death penalty, just for whoever is in charge of the fielding?  Never seen a worse fielding effort by an Australian team.

    • Vuni says:

      11:36am | 07/12/10

      My two cents -
      Hughes in if Katich can’t play. North out Fergerson/Khawaja in Doherty out Hauritz/Smith in.

      and I might be crucified for this but
      Johnson in for Bollinger

    • rufus says:

      11:53am | 07/12/10

      Hilfenhaus for Bollinger.

    • MDMConnell says:

      04:26pm | 07/12/10

      Hughes has been in terrible form this season and has just flopped again, making only 4.

    • Denny Crane says:

      11:38am | 07/12/10

      The team needs a overhaul, last summer playing weak teams like West Indies & Pakistan was the time to bring players through now we are caught, and having to win 2 out of the last 3, and not having England win one more is nigh impossible.

      Take the batsmen too start, only Watson & Hussey are in form, Katich well he will be out for series was avg 25, so we need a new opener, none stand out, middle order Hussey going great North has to be dropped even though it will be in Perth, Ponting is so out of sorts, wants to score when gets to crease instead of trying to build a innings, Clarke has one decent score needs to do more then that, his fielding has gone downhill, he cannot blame his back, if fit enough to play fir enough to be putting in his best.

      Keeper Haddin, going great.

      The bowlers where to start Johnson had to be dropped, but rumors he will play in Perth this has to be a joke, as that he will not be in the next shield match, he needs to be taking wickets at first class not bowling in private, Bollinger seems to be content to be in team, bowls like worried will be injured again, you cant have that. Siddle the 6 wickets on day one of first test are long ago, hasn’t done a thing since, Harris yes he stood up, Doherty should not have been in team to start, and we have now seen why.

      So how do we turn it around and do it now big question, some risks need to be taken, England have fear of leg spin, and we need 20 wickets we got 5 in Adelaide the team I would go with, the selectors are not this game though.

      Shane Watson, Michael Hussey, Ricky Ponting, Michael Clarke, Cameron White,  Dan Christian, Brad Haddin, Steve O’Keefe, Ryan Harris, Trent Copeland, Cameron Boyce.

      We then have Harris, Copeland to open attack, the 2 seamers in Christian & Watson, both would enjoy Perth with Fremantle doctor, then the spinners of O’Keefe who got wickets against England in the A’s match, and the leggie Boyce.

      Its risky but from what we have seen its needed.

    • Mark says:

      12:19pm | 07/12/10

      Denny, your take on this its spot on and I like the look of your side. Cameron White I think is an underrated leg spin bowler who could be effective and share the responsibility with Watson. Watson has good form with the bat and too much bowling could bring him down. That said I would go further and drop Ponting and Clarke as well. I’ve been a big fan of Ricky for a long time but his value to the side as a captain and batsman is no longer there. I’ve never been a fan of Clarke but until recently his form warranted him being in the side, but no more. I may be wrong but except for yesterdays innings Clarke’s average has been below North for the last 5 tests.  I have not followed shield cricket closely enough suggest a replacement for them but surely there are two young players who are showing enough potential to try and bring on.

      The likelihood of winning the Ashes is virtually gone so we may as well really experiment and see what happens. If we continue with this side, the results won’t get any better and just piss the fans off even more which is not good for the game. I’d rather get flogged trying something new than persisting with the current team. Isn’t that the definition of stupidity to keep persisting with the same thing when its not working?.

    • Punters Pal says:

      01:14pm | 07/12/10

      Cameron White is an explosive batsman and has got a good cricketing brain. One thing he is not is a spinner. As the name says, you actually need to spin the ball, which he doesn’t. He does have the best arm ball in Australian cricket, happy to give him that.

    • steviep says:

      02:13pm | 07/12/10

      This side would be a recipe for disaster. We are talking test cricket here not one day stuff or the frantic slogging of 20/20. Too many inexperienced players - not the time for panic.

    • K says:

      11:44am | 07/12/10

      We looked great against Pakistan and the West Indies didn’t we? We aren’t bowling to plans or with any amount of control and accuracy. Anderson is average, Finn bowls like your typical no-name county bowler, Broad isn’t used enough, Clarke aside we look shaky against spin, catches win matches! You could drive several mack sized trucks through Cook’s defence. Get some niggle going, some chatter.

      Don’t go back to Hauritz, X needs to bowl in wicket taking areas, he should watch Swann. Starc/George should be in for bouncy Perth, Smith in for North and Smith becomes the 6th bowler until his batting is a sure thing, Katich shouldn’t be selected for Perth injured, bring in Hughes. Ponting needs a score, lots of them. Quickly.

      Watson, Hughes, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Haddin, Smith, Harris, Doherty, Siddle, Starc/George

    • rufus says:

      12:00pm | 07/12/10

      Do you know any Mack truck drivers in Perth? Literally running Cook over with one looks the only way to stop him right now. Other than that, your advice amounts to England are crap, all we need to do is score more runs and take more catches. Oh, and bowl better, too. Derrr.

    • Glenn says:

      01:22pm | 07/12/10

      K, one can only assume from your insightful and stinging analysis of the Ashes contest is based on the amount of time you have spent watching the game; which has been the hour and a half after tea yesterday. That was a replay you idiot!

      England has smashed Australia, and Cook has batted as long as the three complete inning of the Aussie. Cook’s 2/450, Aussies 30/1030. Too right you’ll need a Mack truck for Cook, but a schoolgirl on a tricycle would knock over the Aussie during morning recess.

    • K says:

      01:56pm | 07/12/10

      England are crap, the difference being they came into the series prepared for it and players sure of their spot in the team. Does anyone truly believe that the selectors will make wholesale changes? This isn’t footy, you can’t drop half the team and “experiment” There are only 3 tests to go, a drawn series will do England.

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:51am | 07/12/10

      I have a cunning plan. Lets get some batters in who can actually bat and some bowlers who can take a few wickets. As a bonus, if any of them can catch it would be fantastic.

      I bet Mitchell Johnson is happy he was dropped before that farce of a match.

    • C1 says:

      03:02pm | 07/12/10

      Dave,

      Not asking for much are you - what you are saying is bring in some cricketers. It is those types of wild crazy ideas that get people into trouble.

    • MarK says:

      11:54am | 07/12/10

      “This is going to be a long summer”?

      Already is.

      Poor X-factor. Like a lamb to the slaughter he has been.

    • rufus says:

      11:56am | 07/12/10

      Katich if injured replaced by Hughes, Hilfenhaus for Bollinger and (regrettably) Hauritz for Doherty. North to get one last chance in his home town, Perth. Wholesale changes if Australia don’t win in Perth.

      Let’s not hear rubbish from supporters of White, Hodge, Lee or Symonds. Those guys are the past, not the future.

    • josh says:

      12:26pm | 07/12/10

      White represents the past? Rufus you dropkick, he’s 27 FFS! has led Victoria to numerous win in the Shield of late. He should be captain in all forms of the game.

    • DaisyDuke says:

      12:34pm | 07/12/10

      Not saying he should be in the team but The Bear is only 27, not exactly past it.

    • rufus says:

      12:46pm | 07/12/10

      AJosh: White’s been tried at test level and been found wanting. I doubt he has the talents as player or captain to make a difference to the side now. One day, OK. Not tests.

    • Shifter says:

      04:25pm | 07/12/10

      @rufus

      Why Hughes? He’s hardly set the world alight since he was dropped last and averaging less than 20 in the Shield this season in practically an all star domestic side.

      There’s alternatives, firstly Shaun Marsh who is averaging 80+ in the rubbish Western Warriors side and secondly… well the next best opening bat is Wes Robinson at 40+ this season.

    • MDMConnell says:

      04:29pm | 07/12/10

      He was tried as a specialist spinner (which he is not) instead of a Number 6 batsman (where he would do very well)

    • ANW says:

      12:01pm | 07/12/10

      I haven’t been paying attention… can Ponting tell us which of the English batsmen his side is “targeting” in the next match?

    • Ricky Pointless says:

      01:55pm | 07/12/10

      Hi ANW, we are sticking with the targeting plan that was extremely successful in the first test. Expect Chris Broad to have a helluva time at the crease when he bats.

    • Richard says:

      12:09pm | 07/12/10

      Yep, McGrath is spot on, it’s been an exercise in futility trying to support Australia in the Ashes ever since England’s second innings stand at the Gabba. Dropping Hilfenhaus was a ludicrous decision by the selectors, who are clueless right now. Heads must roll, and not the heads of trusty bowlers who try their honest best and are being let down by poor fielding/poor leadership. Senior players must pay the price of failure, the price for letting a culture of hopelessness and failure fester within our ranks. At the very least Clarke must go, he simply must. Grow some spine you selectors and put in Usman Khawaja at number 4.

      In WWI, Australian diggers were the most crack troops that the Allies were able to deploy. But they were still ineffective on the battlefield for as long as they were being commanded by the buffoons that the English brass had put in charge. It wasn’t until the very end of the war, when the dashing John Monash was given decisive command of the Australian corps on the Western Front, that the telling breakthrough was finally made.

      Our cricket team is suffering from the same incompetent mal-leadership as our diggers did over 90 years ago, and someone in authority needs to be brave enough to make the correct decision to sack Andrew Hilditch from the board of selectors, drop Michael Clarke back to the Sheffield Shield, and strip Ricky Ponting of his ineffectual captaincy.

    • Mark says:

      12:58pm | 07/12/10

      Yep, Says it all really!

    • C1 says:

      03:08pm | 07/12/10

      Yes Richard,

      You could tell our cricket team is suffering under the same leadesrhip that made WW1 the great event it was. I though it was a masterstroke of Ricky’s when they were facing the new ball he had the entire team form a square around the wicket. It worked against the fuzzy wuzzies at Rorkes Drift so why not at Adelaide oval.

    • Josh says:

      12:31pm | 07/12/10

      I think Australian needs to go through what New Zealand cricket did, in the Lee Germon years.

      Bring in a new players and a new captain for the new direction. That means Clarke isn’t the next captain. Cameron White would be my preferred choice, to lead the young guys for a few years.

    • Vaunted says:

      03:02pm | 07/12/10

      The Punter looks like his baggy green, faded and frankly worn out, and ‘hear hear’ about Michael Clarke. It beats me why they ‘annointed’ Clarke in the first place. He’s just a lad and maybe he should be in the team, but is he really the natural successor to Steve Waugh, Alan Border and Sir Donald Bradman? Seriously, we need a leader of men; someone with authority and presence, not some spoilt show pony.

    • Rev says:

      12:35pm | 07/12/10

      For the 3rd Test

      1.  Watson
      2.  Hughes (deserves a dig with Katich injured)
      3.  Ponting (needs to improve every facet of his game or he’s gone)
      4.  Clarke
      5.  Hussey
      6.  Khawaja (will be better than North, and is the future)
      7.  Haddin
      8.  Johnson (risk, will have spent the past week getting it together)
      9.  Hauritz (shouldn’t have been dropped in the first place)
      10.  Siddle (not convinced on talent, but he has ticker)
      11.  Hilfenhaus (shouldn’t have been dropped)

      Johnson is a definite risk but I can’t see the others doing any better.  The Gabba was a road but there was still enough in the Adelaide wicket for the bowlers, and they failed.  Dropping Hauritz was a disaster.  Shane Warne averaged over 40 in India, what did they expect from the less talented offie?

      Dropping Hilfenhaus was even worse - our best ‘all-conditions’ bowler.
      I’m amused at the constant calls to drop Clarke - whilst I’m not sold on him being the next captain, he’s been one of the most consistent batsmen in the side for a few years now.

    • DaisyDuke says:

      12:52pm | 07/12/10

      I believe Hilfy was dropped because he was injured.

      I would move Watson to 6 and bowl him more with Khawaja and Hughes opening.

      I wouldn’t bring Johnson back, leave Harris there.

    • RT says:

      01:24pm | 07/12/10

      Khawaja is a risk. He’s yet to get a big score this season. A player needs to be in form to make a test debut.

    • Macca says:

      01:47pm | 07/12/10

      @RT, Khawaja scored 214 in his first innings this summer for NSW against South Australia. What large score are you looking for?

    • Cuffs says:

      03:55pm | 07/12/10

      @RT, Khawaja has scored 411 runs at an average of 68.50 this season in Sheffield shield, and has a highest score of 214 which he got in the first game, pretty tough school if you think he isn’t in form.

    • Pugilist says:

      01:14pm | 07/12/10

      The most in form Australian batsmen at the moment is Hodge, but of course he won’t get a go ...

      Neilsen et al are average motivators and selectors. Ponting’s captaincy reputation continues to slide with every Test. The footy season can’t come quick enough!

    • steviep says:

      02:17pm | 07/12/10

      we are looking at a large score - didnt see it in the Australia A v Poms game somehow!

    • Matt says:

      01:19pm | 07/12/10

      I would beg Lee to come back, especially for Perth. But considering that very unlikely I would have Watson, Hughes, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, White or ferguson, maybe hodges if he will play, Haddin, Hilfenhaus, Siddle, either Khawaja or Johnson (only cause its perth) Spinner may not be required, especiallu if they are not going to take any wickets anyway.

    • Mark says:

      01:20pm | 07/12/10

      Clarke has the lowest average this year in the top 5 and only North has a worse average this year of the recognised batsmen. Even Haddin’s 2010 average is better than Clarke’s. Clarke’s average has steadily declined all year, if Ponting has to go so does Clarke

    • Macca says:

      01:43pm | 07/12/10

      @Mark, pfft, Clarke just scored 80 and has consistently out averaged Hussey, Ponting and Katich over the last few years.

    • DaisyDuke says:

      01:55pm | 07/12/10

      no its not.
      2010 Averages:
      Hussey 52.13
      Katich   46.82
      Watson 42.94
      Ponting 42.77
      Clarke   42.00
      North     29.37
      Haddin   38.33

    • salo says:

      03:08pm | 07/12/10

      Daisy, I believe if you take three years instead of just this year, Clarke has the best average. Clarke’s place in the team should be assured for the rest of the series at least, and a ton or two should be expected from him.

    • Aitch B says:

      01:22pm | 07/12/10

      Australia versus a Third World 4th XI….. now THAT could be a contest!!

    • Castro says:

      01:27pm | 07/12/10

      Ponting and Clarke must be held accountable for their pea-heartedness and be replaced.  It is not just their inability to guts it out with the bat that is hurting us, but the way their ‘leadership’ has led to the steep decline in our out-cricket (fielding, running between wickets, catching etc).  This is an area that doesn’t require natural talent but hard work and dedication.  It is no coincidence that this was the area that Bob Simpson concentrated on when he took over the last time our team was this bad.  It is self-evident that the lack of leadership has led us to this and the leaders must do the honourable thing and pay the price.

      Hilditch must also bear responsibility.  However, he did achieve the impossible, namely finding a worse spinner than Hauritz to put in the side!

      Starc or George (or Johnson if he finds his form at shield level) should come in for Doherty and Smith for North.  It’s not ideal, but it gives us an extra bowler which we need desperately.  Forget a fulltime spinner if we don’t have a decent one.

      The batting is harder because of Katich’s injury and the lack of players scoring consistent first class runs.  Time to take a punt on Fatty Cosgrove.

      Hughes
      Jaques
      Hussey
      Cosgrove
      Watson
      Smith
      Haddin
      Johnson (Starc/George lower down the order)
      Harris
      Siddle
      Bolinger

    • Macka says:

      08:22am | 08/12/10

      Castro, we would be 6 wickets for 3 runs if you played this team…stop smoking the hooch champ.

    • Lukey says:

      01:35pm | 07/12/10

      that outfield catch that was dropped was between Marcus North and Ricky Ponting not Michael Clarke

    • Macca says:

      01:53pm | 07/12/10

      Anyone who thinks Clarke should be dropped is a prejudiced idiot. This has clearly been a rubbish year for him and he still has two centuries, 3 50s and an average above 40.

      And he just scored 80. If thats what it takes to get dropped than Hussey and Watson would never had made this series. Or even this Calender year.

      North has to go, and I’d consider Peter George or another tall fast bowler in place of Doherty for Perth.

    • Richard says:

      03:01pm | 07/12/10

      Clarke is a good batsman, no doubt, but he is a bad leader. In a team game, any team game, leadership is the most vital, yet immeasurable attribute a senior player/vice-captain can possess. Clarke’s body language, demeanour and all-round attitude has been severely lacking that attacking Australian quality that made us invincible during the golden era. He is a corrosive influence on Australia’s winning spirit at the moment, but like any worthy hero, he may yet redeem himself by undertaking a perilous night journey through the ‘underworld’ of the Sheffield Shield and emerging triumphant on the other side.

    • John C says:

      01:53pm | 07/12/10

      Drastic action is needed. Here is a start.

      1. Sack the coach. The team has underperformed since he has been in charge. Go on bended knee to Hockey Australia and ask them to release Ric Charlesworth. If they won’t agree, call Bobby Simpson out of retirement. He has done it before.

      2. Sack the selectors. Hilditch, Boon and the guy from Tasmania (whoever he is) are not only proven failures as selectors, they are from a bygone era. Recruit selectors from guys who have played in the modern era - Warnie, Steve Waugh, McGrath, Langer etc.

      3. Sack North and the various finger spinners that we have tried over the past seasons, bring in Hughes, and move Watson to 5 or 6. Bring in a leg spinner - a poor leg spinner is better than a poor off spinner any day.

      4. See if Shaun Tait will play. The 2 things the Poms cannot cope with are really fast bowlers who have no idea where the ball is going to go (eg Thommo) and leg spinners.

      5. Tell Ponting this is it as captain and suggest that he bows out gracefully or even do a Kim Hughes.

      6. Clarke was batting a lot better last year. Bring back Lara Bingle.

    • Faz says:

      04:32pm | 07/12/10

      Bobby Simpson’s nearly 80 JC. But who did he work with the bring the Aussie team back from even worse straights than they’re in now (they lost to NZ as I recall!)? Alan Border. Maybe he could inject a little steel into the side.

      I think Punter needs the tap on the shoulder, trouble is I can’t see anyone better to replace him.

      PS: Congrats to the Poms. They did to us what we’ve so often done to them. It’ll be all the more pleasing when we can turn the tables again.

    • V says:

      07:37pm | 07/12/10

      Re #4 Are you serious? Once Tait has exhausted himself bowling 4 overs, then what?

    • Martin G says:

      12:07pm | 08/12/10

      Shaun Tait has a heart the size of a pea. He will never play Test cricket for Australia again. Us South Aussies know that better than anyone.

    • Battlestar says:

      01:54pm | 07/12/10

      I have a question. Why hasn’t Stuart Clark been recalled?

    • Lukey says:

      02:46pm | 07/12/10

      totally agree with you

    • SM says:

      01:55pm | 07/12/10

      I’m not certain that the situation is so bad

      things can turn quickly in test cricket, and whilst we’re obviously not as strong as we have been over the last 10 years or so, we can still win this series.

      North must be replaced by Steve Smith (the next big thing in Aust cricket), and Doherty has no test future. I’d not be picking Hauritz either though - 4 quicks + Watson + Smith

    • Rosie says:

      01:57pm | 07/12/10

      Perhaps, “cricket” is missing the dynamic John Howard, who we all know is a “cricket head.”

      Think about it folks, in Howard’s 11 years as PM, Australia was riding high on the cricket scene. In his last term as PM in the 2004/05 series Ponting became the first Australian captain since Allan Border in 1986/87 to lose an Ashes series. It should have been a lesson to Australian cricket to prepare for the future and not rely too heavily on great players, like McGrath, Warne, Gillchrist etc! Perhaps, Australia cricket neglected the push for the development of great players after we convincingly won back the Ashes in the 2006/07 series.

      Kevin Rudd became our PM in 2007 and in the 2008/09 series the Ashes was again taken away from Ponting. Today, Julia Gillard, is our PM, it happened without controversy and Ponting, still our cricket captain, is desperately trying to regain it. Could it be time for change, cricket captain and PM??????

      I believe the country is in a state of hesitation and indecisiveness and so is cricket. At least when cricketers like Ian Chappell, Rod March, Dennis Lillee, Dougie Walters, McGrath, Warnie, Hughes etc were playing we never ever once saw the look of dejection because they were going to lose. As a spectator I never gave up hope and stayed with the boys as they kept fighting until that last ball was bowled. I think it maybe tougher for McGrath, Warnie etc to watch the performace of our boys than it was to be out there trying their hardest to get wickets and runs.

      Cricket Australia must pick up their game, buy McGrath’s book and produce players that can compete like those that I have mentioned above if we want to be No 1 again.

      Cricket Australia can also pay past players big money to stop them from leaving our shores to coach and develop players in other countries.

    • Frog says:

      02:00pm | 07/12/10

      My old man, playing pennant in Victoria, bowls better than any of the sub-standard stock we have in the cricket team.  No use going in with the same lot.  They couldn’t bowl if their life depended on it - and it doesn’t - they’ll still get paid, who cares?

    • steviep says:

      02:10pm | 07/12/10

      Warne and McGrath would not have attained half their wickets given the review system now. What a con job they used to do on the poor overseas umpires.

    • rob says:

      04:07pm | 07/12/10

      get a grip mate

    • Mother Rose says:

      02:18pm | 07/12/10

      What is it about cricket.
      The old selectors must have some secret code they adhere to where they always pick the “special” players instead of going with in form new talent.

    • Horthy says:

      05:27pm | 07/12/10

      The code is not a secret. It’s :

      $$$

    • Stanley says:

      02:27pm | 07/12/10

      Started around 2pm here in Adelaide and it is bucketing down and lots and lots of lightning!!!!.....if only the Australian team had shown a little back bone a draw was their for the taking….Outplayed though and the Poms deserve 1 - 0.

      Australian 11 for Perth;

      1. Watson (needs to turn the 50’s into tons)

      2. (katich out injured?) Khawaja In! Big call but now is the time to be bold.

      3. Ponting (Out of form and fading fast needs time out in the middle)

      4. Clarke (the more i see of him the less i like! next captain? Lord help us!)

      5. Hussey (Saved his job scary that he is easily the best batsman we have, but that sums it all up really)

      *Marcus North* (please someone get rid of this Guy!!!! Seriously!!!! and put him into the ‘we will call you you no call us’ category

      6. Khawaja (if not opening) otherwise Callum ferguson is a Must. Cannot be any worse than North. Produced a cracking ton recently

      7. Haddin (Prefer Tim Paine but Injured looks tired but still adequate)

      8. Peter George has the talent & the height we need and is a genuine wicket taker ala his last Shield performance when he destroyed Tasmania.

      < xavier doherty> Whoever got this guy into the side must resign!!! Must be sent back to club cricket.

      9. Hauritz (we were hasty please accept this box of Roses chocolates and a test berth in Perth, hope he calls us back!)

      Now we are scrapping the barrel

      10. Siddle (just only for his performance in Brisbane which without we would otherwise have lost and now be 2-0 down not 1-0.)

      11. Hilfenhaus (deserves a recall perhaps injured? else why was he dropped? consistently good bowler) if no i guess Doug the Rug gets another chance.

    • rm says:

      04:10pm | 07/12/10

      spot on big fella totally agree, maybe hughes instead of khawaja?

    • DocBud says:

      10:26pm | 07/12/10

      Aussie backbone? Now that is an oxymoron.

    • Chris B says:

      02:36pm | 07/12/10

      My selection for Perth test - Hughes (for Katich), Warner (I like the idea of two specialist openers and he’s a match winner out of the same cast of a sehwag), Ponting, Clarke (if fit otherwise Khawaja/Ferguson), Hussey, Watson (give more time to recover and have more impact with the ball cause god know we need all bowling option we can get), Haddin, Hauritz (never should have been dropped), Johnson (bollinger doesn’t look fully match fit and mitch provides more depth in the batting), Siddle, Harris/Hilfenhaus (can’t decide)

    • DaisyDuke says:

      03:17pm | 07/12/10

      Warner… Get a clue mate, the guy has only played 4 first class tests ever.

    • Jonathan says:

      02:40pm | 07/12/10

      Ed Cowan should open the batting with Hughes. Drop Watson down to number 6.

      Johnston, Hilfenhaus are in our best attack and must play. Harris or Siddle for the last fast bowling spot.

      Hauritz is no good but a better option than Doherty.

    • Matt says:

      02:49pm | 07/12/10

      perhaps we need to face the fact that we’re just not that good anymore? sure the current team are hopeless but there’s not a great deal better in domestic cricket either. sure D Hussdey, White, Ferguson (whose shield average is marginally better then north’s international average) khawaja, smith etc. might not be worse, but i don’t think they’re any better. smith and khawaja have great potential but still have a way to go. i’m not saying we shouldn’t make changes, in fact i’m more then happy for any of the above players to come in, just don’t expect us to be significantly better because of it.

      personally i would like to see smith and o’keefe come in for north and doherty (hilfenhaus also maybe for bollinger who doesn’t look fit.) this gives us 6 bowlers and batting down to 8. however o’keefe’s 12th man for the NSW game so can’t see it happening. khawaja and hauritz could be another combination. despite being a very average bowler i think hauritz is the best spinner we have, at least for now. the phrase “the thinnest kid at fat camp” springs to mind. also assume hughes to be the replacement for katich but he’s been shocking for NSW this season. perhaps khawaja to open (he’s done it before) or shaun marsh as a smokie?

    • Loud Howard says:

      02:52pm | 07/12/10

      Would be silly to drop Clarke, especially just as he started to look like he’d found some form. His yearly average of 42 may be relatively poor for him, but that’s just hanging around the Boon/Taylor/M Waugh career average level. He’s still pushing 50 for his career average and obviously deserves the confidence of the selectors.

    • Davo says:

      02:56pm | 07/12/10

      Unfortunately our skipper in waiting (Clarke) has got a heart the size of a pea. Not only is it ridiculous that he managed to get out to a part time trundler in the last over yesterday when it was so desperately important he be there today, then (and this is sh@#ting me beyond words), he has to “tweet” an apology to the Poms for not walking??
      Given he hit/smashed the thing…..  but since when did the Poms feelings become soooo important that we need to give them an apology for standing our ground when even the umpire hadn’t given him out.
      Is he that worried about his appearance and marketing power that we need to apologise to the bloody Poms, of all nations, for not merrily skipping off to the dressing room. Got an idea…why doesn’t he just go off to the Poms dressing room to cheer on a victory. Where oh where is Boon, tugga and AB…BECAUSE, Good Lord, we need some old fashioned grit now!!
      This is our next national captain…..the darkest of days ahead for Oz cricket.

    • rob says:

      04:13pm | 07/12/10

      100% agree, wtf is clarke thinking???? wat a dick

    • Jay says:

      04:19pm | 07/12/10

      Agree. M Clarke is all puss & marketing.

    • Andrew says:

      04:50pm | 07/12/10

      It’s all ok guys….Clarke just twittered….seems he’s just appologised for appologising.

    • Steve Putnam says:

      06:30pm | 07/12/10

      Get real Davo. With the referral system in place you end up looking like a dead set prat when the white spot shows on the bat. That was what Clarke was embarrassed about.

    • The Masked Commenter says:

      02:59pm | 07/12/10

      If an NRL team underperforms the coach is first to go. Why not in cricket? Hughes should be in for Katich and Khawaja for North. Ferguson doesnt have the first class record to warrant selection and White is a one day player.

    • Andrew says:

      03:28pm | 07/12/10

      The cracks go back to when Ponting lost the Ashes the first time around. He showed then that he wasn’t the strategist in the mould of former captains. We have to remember that he lost the ashes twice with some of the greats still playing for Australia. Nothing has got better for Australia. Why is Australia losing.
      1. Poor preparation-their last year has shown the cracks appearing.
      2. Poor selection process. Poor old Hughes is going to now get selected and have all of the pressure on him.
      3. Poor Captaincy-Ponting showed his true colours in his comments about the umpiring (poor form for a captain) and his face off with Strauss (this showed him to be less than a man and diplomat).
      4. Undiscipled batsmen
      5. Uninspiring bowling
      6. Grade cricket fielding.

      Bring on Perth

    • DocBud says:

      10:28pm | 07/12/10

      And the opposition is better.

    • Shifter says:

      04:33pm | 07/12/10

      One thing I don’t get is the massive hard-on everyone seems to have for Phil Hughes. What has he done to deserve a test spot other than previously getting a gig and being under 25 years old. Surely you’d pick a side on form, and currently Hughes is averaging under 20 in the first class domestic season, and is one of the lower scoring opening batsmen.

      That said, if Katich is injured why do we need to replace him with a domestic opener? Katich himself was an upper middle order batman before breaking into the side for a second time and being forced into the openers role with the retirements of Hayden and Langer. Watson played mostly in the slot from 4-8 before the experiment and a ton of runs against Pakistan and West Indies.

      So thinking outside the box, could the more experienced North, Clarke or Ponting join Watson at the top of the order and allow for the younger batsman to be brought into the middle order with (slightly) less pressure.

    • Craig says:

      04:43pm | 07/12/10

      I believe Ian Chappell has stepped up to show the way. The man has heart and courage, more than a touch of mongrel. Make him captain again.

    • redring says:

      04:48pm | 07/12/10

      Has anyone noticed how many second rate ex Test players or even merely ex Shield players are selectors, administrators, coaches etc. Hilditch, Cooley, Nielsen etc etc. Why would an Australian bat with a Test average of over 50 want to listen to Hilditch or Nielsen about anything related to cricket ? Have you noticed in the last few years how so many Oz players down on form and at the end of their careers say “I’ll decide when I retire” Give me a break. We should take a leaf out of India and Pom performances and play mildly unproven talented guys in their early 20’s and not bugger around with underforming blokes in their 30’s.

    • jane wallace says:

      05:39pm | 07/12/10

      australia will level the series before 2011.
      Australia will win one of the next two tests.

    • jane wallace says:

      05:41pm | 07/12/10

      england will not win another cricket test in 2010

    • DocBud says:

      10:24pm | 07/12/10

      Feel free to come back and acknowledge the error of your ways when they do, Jane. The Aussies have more chance of plaiting snot than taking 20 English (PBUT) wickets. That is in a single test match, they might make 20 in the whole series.

    • Rosie says:

      06:22pm | 07/12/10

      This came to mind, if Warnie was captain instead of Ponting he would be still playing and the Australian team would have at least had the “Warnie Fire in the Belly” in them and put up a better fight.

      I just knew Warnie should have been given that chance!

    • iansand says:

      06:28pm | 07/12/10

      Ponting.  No mongrel.  I would love to know what AB and S Waugh think of him.

    • Shifter says:

      11:41am | 08/12/10

      Probably the same thing I’ve been saying the entire summer: “Sack the captain!”

      I think Capt Grumpy wouldn’t have a bar of Punter’s pissweak press conference excuses.

    • Steve Putnam says:

      06:02pm | 08/12/10

      You can be as mongrel as you want but if you don’t have the cattle on the field it isn’t going to amount anything.

    • jane wallace says:

      06:42pm | 07/12/10

      Make Ian Botham and Ian Chappell the sole selectors.
      OR ELSE
      drop the whole aussie men’s test team.
      replace it with aussie women’s test team.


      Your comment:

    • Chris says:

      07:40pm | 07/12/10

      All of this gives far too much credit to the impact of bowling. A bowler is lucky to take a wicket, ever. They bowl hundreds of balls for a few wickets, most of which are at the mercy of the catcher or caused by a batsman’s error. Bowlers should only be credited with actually “bowled” dismissals or caught/bowled (rare).
      Matches are won on the bat and in the field. Australia’s fielding has been dismal, while England’s batting would rip through even McGrath/Warne/Gillespie.
      Australia’s batsmen have also failed, for the most part: Ponting and Clarke have one decent performance each in two tests—Ponting in Brisbane when it hardly mattered, Clarke in Adelaide when it mattered greatly, and he still failed to get a big score (and I mean well over a ton, and well into day 5).
      So, let’s give condemnation and credit where it’s due. The Australian bowlers haven’t lost this; the Australian fielders have, along with two key Aussie batsmen. The English batsmen have won it.

    • Macka says:

      08:52am | 08/12/10

      @ Chris

      You’re saying that if a bowler puts a ball on a good line and length that forces a batsman to knick, edge or hit the ball on the full to a fieldsman for a wicket, that bowler deserves no credit!? Yeah I agree, Warnie was crap, it was all luck, let’s take 500 wickets off him!

      Please do us a favour and stop supporting Australian cricket, we don’t need you or want you. I am guessing you work in the Public Service, just a hunch, but this is something an over-opinionated, over-educated and under-skilled government worker would say…

    • Chris says:

      05:37pm | 08/12/10

      Macka: what gives you the impression that I support Australian cricket? You leap to conclusions better than Haddin dives for a catch. In your reply, you exhibit all the cutting wit of a pre-pubescent, fat kid trying desperately to be the new school bully.
      And pardon me for offering an original thought on the game of cricket.
      Now, everyone, back to worshipping S.K.Warne.

    • stephen says:

      10:13pm | 07/12/10

      The selectors need to be re-selected : 4 out of 5 are batsmen, which is reasonable if you wish to be Captain, but as part of a team that looks for general talent ?

    • S.L says:

      10:19pm | 07/12/10

      Bring back Lillee and Thomo! Backed by Warnie and Peter “Who?” Taylor or Dutchie Holland. These guys better playing days are behind them but they can’t do any worse!
      Look at the Adelaide pitch. If Strauss hadn’t declared the Poms would still be in. You’d think the pitch was dead with our bowlers doing nothing then SURPRISE! We’re batting and their spinners are spinning and their quicks are finding the footmarks and getting general swing and before you know it they’ve won.
      Who or what is Ponting blameing this time. I turn off before he opens his arrogant mouth these days?

    • nw says:

      11:50am | 08/12/10

      For the majority, let them all be - and give them the next three Tests to stand up and be counted, secure their futures… or otherwise.

      If we don’t, Australia will be left lamenting the fact we have a bunch of one- or two-Test discards and not a clue who to turn to thereafter.

      England are clearly a better side. So let’s see who can stand up on our side of the fence in the interim.

    • Ben C says:

      12:03pm | 08/12/10

      My two cents worth:

      1. Australia needs to bring in a line and length bowler - Stuart Clark! Someone who can build pressure by starving batsmen of runs. Unacceptable that we can allow the other mob to score in excess of 500 over the last two innings.

      2. If we want to use Watson as an all-rounder, then we should bat him where the all-rounder normally is - 6. Get rid of North, and bring in two specialist openers - Jaques and Hughes come to mind, both have experience in the Test arena, although recent performances may dictate that the selectors look elsewhere.

      3. Where’s the communication? Firstly, the Katich run-out in the first innings. Then we have the missed catch that fell between Ponting and North. One of the first things you learn out on the field is how to call for a run or a catch. When batting - yes, no or wait. When fielding - call out your name to say that you’ll take the catch.

      4. There are no genuine leaders in the current team. Ponting and Clarke lack tactical nous, and their body language lets the entire team down - their heads go down when something goes wrong. We need a captain that inspires the team, with words and action, and knows how to set up a wicket - but there’s no one in the current setup that is able.

      5. The current crop lack mental strength. They expect results immediately, and if they don’t get results, they lose all hope. During our golden era, this would not have been tolerated - players like Warne, McGrath, Gilchrist, Hayden, Langer - something goes wrong, try again, it’s bound to go right at some point. These guys never took a backward step. Also interesting to note that some of these guys were brilliant sledgers as well.

      My 11 for Perth:
      Jaques
      Hughes (no other opening pair that I can think of)
      Ponting
      Hussey (given the first two Tests, the best man to come in if a top order collapse happens)
      Clarke (did much better at 5, move him back there)
      Watson (where he should be)
      Haddin
      Harris
      Siddle
      Hilfenhaus
      Bollinger

      Mitchell Johnson needs to work on his technique before he comes back in - at the moment he’s nowhere near the pace that saw him dominate cricket just two years ago. I also haven’t included a spinner, given that Perth is a pace-friendly wicket. Otherwise, I’d have Hauritz in for Bollinger - Dougie seems underdone, having just one game under his belt since returning from injury.

    • lapun pinis says:

      09:55pm | 08/12/10

      I can’t agree Ben C.  Your team, like so many others of the past 24 months is still a patch up and doesn’t address the big problem - which is that we presently have a lousy bunch in there.  We are NOT going to win this series and we might as well write it off now.  Forget the hacks and get in the young bloods that may show results in 2 years time.  Ponting out, Clarke out, Haddin in until Paine is again available,  Bring in the young brigade and start to groom them now.  Bight the bullet but keep a few steady heads to support them.  Watson in of course, Hussey for stability, Hilfenhaus as the lead attack and Smith for sure.  And how could you [possibly leave out Khawaja, Ferguson, etc.? Thye will do nothing for us this year but the benefit will come with time.

    • Ben C says:

      09:43am | 09/12/10

      While I agree with you lapun on some of the names you’ve listed, the problem I have with them at the moment is finding consistency at the domestic level. If they can’t find that consistency yet, we’re still going to be playing musical chairs with the team. Prodigious talents as Khawaja and Ferguson are, they’re still to prove they can keep it going year in, year out - if we got back 15 years when AB and Tubby were in charge, we had guys like Hayden, Langer, Elliott, Lehmann, Law, even Ponting when he was dropped - guys that were consistently punching out 800-1000 runs each year before they got their chance on the big stage. The current crop of backup players just aren’t pushing hard enough. If they can be consistent with their domestic performances, then we should look at them.

      So yes, this is a patch up, but they’re the best and most consistent that we have at the moment, and that’s what we need - consistency.

    • Shane says:

      12:20pm | 08/12/10

      Only Brad Hodge can save us! Move North up to open with Watson, rest Clarke, Ponting at #3, then Brad Hodge, then Mike Hussey. Ditch Doherty, bring in Cameron White as he can bat & bowl.

    • Dieter Moeckel says:

      01:43pm | 08/12/10

      Cricket is the most boring game ever devised, that’s why only England and ex-English colonies play the game.
      Just imagine how much, much more boring it would be if Australia always won.
      Any professional sport is absolutely boring - vicarious activity for coach potatoes.
      Professional sport is business and entertainment - sport is what you do, not what you watch while sucking at a stubby - so who cares?
      World domination is not threatened by professional sport, or any other sport for that matter.
      Ask the Romans they knew all about vicarious violence.

    • Stewart Henstock says:

      02:28pm | 08/12/10

      Dude….it sounds like someone put real sugar in your lattee instead of artifical sweetner and with that i’ll retire to my couch with my potato-chips and watch the Simpsons….on my 60” TV…p~

    • Stewart Henstock says:

      02:33pm | 08/12/10

      Oh…i nearly forgot….the cricket.
      Do what the Poms do….CHEAT….doctor the wickets.

    • Matthew says:

      09:34pm | 08/12/10

      I’ve said it before the series started and i’ll say it again. Ponting, M Clarke, North, Johnson and the selectors don’t deserve selection at all. With Katich (my captain) out injured this my 12. Note we don’t pick our in form guys though because we are stupid.

      S Marsh
      S Watson
      P Hughes
      M Hussey (c)
      B Hodge
      B Haddin
      S Smith
      S Clarke
      D Bollinger
      R Harris
      B Hilfenhaus
      C White (12th man)

      That team (excl white) has 6 bowlers and 7 batsman.  Yes Hughes hasn’t been in form in state cricket but he’s probably cut from being snobbed and i’d give him a go.  He can’t do any worse than North or ponting with the bat and Clarke’s 80 was unimpressive. Stu Clarke adds line and lenght to the bowling that we are missing.  Johnson doesn’t deserve another chance this summer - forget him even at the WACA.

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    • Rosinea says:

      07:19pm | 09/03/12

      great point mate (and no, I’m not agreeing with melsyf here)@ Ben   another great point   or points   I was visiting home last year and was at that match, one of the worst displays of captaincy I have ever seen, field placements were terrible, bowling changes just strange, time wasting galore   plus he shouldn’t have played in the final 4 tests of the Ashes anyway.Jrod   another great article mate   although I thought you were a little tough on Punter yesterday, he was the best Australian batsman in the Indian series last year   got injured, then had a shit Ashes

 

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