It is tempting to see parallels between federal Labor’s flat-lining election result and the drubbing Barack Obama’s Democratic Party received at this week’s mid-term elections.

Oh, you can all just bugger off. Picture: AP

But much of the skin Obama lost came from doing difficult things in his first two years whereas Labor’s collapse came from ducking them.

The Democratic Party lost 52 seats in Bill Clinton’s first term. The Republicans went backwards by 26 House seats under Ronald Reagan; by eight under George H W Bush (the father); and by 30 in George W’s second term. But all of these were dwarfed by the shellacking handed out to Democrats under presidents FDR and Harry S Truman who lost seats at the rate of 71 in his middle term (he had three of them) and 45 respectively. All were re-elected.

Still Obama’s setback feels dramatic given that just two years ago, he scored 53 per cent of the vote _ the most enthusiastic endorsement of a Democratic president since the 1960s. Now the same party is straining the record books in the other direction with north of 60 losses and genuine doubts as to Obama’s chances in 2012.

His phenomenally catchy ``Yes We Can’’ message of 2008 was returned with interest by Republicans and hard-right Tea Party candidates, reframed as ``oh no you don’t’’ and by millions of disillusioned ordinary Americans as ``thanks for nothing’‘.

Clearly, the corollary of high hopes is a correspondingly deep sense of disappointment.

The fact that home loan foreclosures are at record levels, unemployment remains at 9.5 per cent _ far higher in many places _ and even those who own a home often owe more on it than it’s worth, makes for a hostile political picture. Business refuses to invest and banks won’t lend despite the Reserve printing money, (so-called quantitative easing) and the injection of hundreds of billions in stimulus payments and bailouts.

On top of that, Obama himself continues to attract criticism not for doing too little but for doing too much. In fact his administration has been dubbed as an ``eat-your-peas-presidency’’ for doing worthy things but not explaining them well.

Imagine that in Australia: doing a lot of hard things in office but then failing to talk about it!

Here we have the opposite problem.

Labor’s anaemic showing at the August election had nothing to do with voters concluding that too much had been done and everything to do with hopes dashed, promises broken, and faith breached.

Voters are waking up to the fact that the government specialises in rhetorical over-reach _ witness the latest exchange of fire started by the PM no less about who is the greater reformer. Viewed against the genuine political stoush over Obama’s healthcare changes _ hard-won reform if anything ever was _ the Australian argument at present is an over-acted front-bar shouting match between a government whose reform record is pretty dismal and an alternative prime minister who sees no virtue in anything the government proposes. Ever.

That said, the Opposition’s arguments are at least consistent. Consider the following list.

Pink batts. Emission trading. Border protection. Banking reform. Debt and deficit. In all of these, the Opposition’s protestations have ended up being at least as persuasive as the Government’s. On pink batts, the Government initially said its multi-billion program was brilliant, visionary policy. The Opposition said it stank. Both now agree, it stank.

Emissions trading. The Government said it was the greatest moral challenge of our time. Remember, delay was denial? In the end, Tony Abbott’s great big new tax critique prevailed. The idea is now where the Opposition took it. Nowhere.

Border protection. Labor said the Howard Government’s off-shore third country processing was a disgrace and a moral abrogation. Yet now its East Timor idea is a slightly modified version of this approach. In fact, the only reason Nauru has not been re-opened is the political embarrassment it would cause Labor. Who knows, it may yet happen.

And of course, the most current example is banks. A fortnight ago Joe Hockey was absolutely eviscerated by the Government for suggesting competition reforms. Yet now after the RBA hiked rates again and the Commonwealth went even further, it is Labor scrambling to catch up.

It’s a fair bet that much of what Hockey was ridiculed for will be adopted by a Government lamely claiming it was already planning it. Why didn’t it say that in response to Hockey initially?

Even Labor’s budgetary claims, which the Opposition has always said were pure fiction, are being questioned as the the first official murmurings emerge that the high dollar is hitting revenue and putting the promised 2012-13 surplus under additional strain.

Obama’s mid-term shock derives mostly from the stubbornly sick economy he inherited and in part from a failure to communicate the work he has done.

For Labor though, the economy is not the problem. Its challenge is one of courage and belief. Internally and externally.

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    • Lucas says:

      05:40am | 06/11/10

      Gillard, Swan and team are a pack of liars. They lied through their front teeth to con voters. There will be no carbon tax under a Government I lead, we will have the budget back in surplus with in 3 years, an absolute lie that they sold themselves at the last election on only 3 months ago, there will be a regional processing centre in East Timor, it will never happen. Estimates for the minning tax were lies and have broken agreements they had with the minning company’s and on and on it goes. Enough is enough I say. At least Obama doesn’t have a legacy of lying to the people that Gillard has.

    • Eric says:

      06:11am | 06/11/10

      Obama didn’t do worthy things. He did bad things that only made the situation worse - miring the US in hopeless debt for generations to come.

      The American people rejected Obama’s agenda not because he failed to talk about it, but because its problems were all too obvious in retrospect.

      Journalists can spin all they like, but more and more Americans are waking up and smelling the tea.

    • Mother Rose says:

      11:23am | 06/11/10

      Tell us eric what was Obamas agenda that was rejected and what were the obvious problems (in retrospect)

      I didn’t think so.

    • G says:

      08:33am | 08/11/10

      Americans are too caught up in the stigma of “communism” and “socialism” to know whats good for them.  In essence, American’s are quite stupid.

      Universal Healthcare as opposed to “Hi I’ve got no insurance but I’ve been shot 5 times” ... “sorry, you have to go and die in the corner now”.

      Obama dreamed big, and the American people didn’t have the stomach to go the distance.

    • Against the Man says:

      06:17am | 06/11/10

      Gillard was part of the last government so she should have a game plan in place this time round. But it all areas she seems like a fish out of water. Everything is in the too hard basket. And that she hangs on to dead weights like Wong/Garrett/Roxon who where part the last government that apparently ‘loss their way’ according to Gillard, shows she is continuing to repeat the mistakes of the ALP. The ALP are a terrible political party, it promotes itself as a party that cares and stands up for the average Australian against the evil world of business etc but in reality they are looking out for themselves and selfish beyond the reasonable expectation of most politicians. We pay you to think not throw money at everything and hope it goes away. Gillard and government are failing, not because they want to but because they can’t do anything else.

    • mags says:

      07:22am | 06/11/10

      In a country where any action by government to restrain or regulate business is considered an infringement of constitutional rights, a reformist President like Obama was sure to come unstuck. Americans are a strange lot. They see the reforms to health care as a plot to socialise the US. Wierd.

      We on the other hand have had one and a bit governments spouting reform to everything and what we got was half baked rhetoric, lies, back flipping and looking to their political opponents to get them out of the poo.  Lord know what we will get next.

    • Lisa H. says:

      06:12pm | 06/11/10

      The difference between the Australian and US cultural temperament is marked.
      We absolutely LOVE big government here, we trust the government to a point far, far beyond that of the US character.
      I’m at a loss to explain why we love big big government so much.
      The waste, the self-serving nature of our out-dated system is incredible to the outside observer… and yet there is no real sense of any hope for change.
      We are wedded to our welfare state. Our politicians justify themselves to the public and media by constantly working to expand it.
      The US will bounce back, thanks to the national belief in hard work and self-direction.
      Australia will take the easy path, as usual, at least until the boom runs out.

    • Gregg says:

      10:59am | 07/11/10

      @Lisa
      I do not know where you get the ” We absolutely LOVE ....” from for it would be furtherest from the truth for many and likewise with trust.
      Most Australians associate big governments and over governance with increased regulations, red-tape, costs and higher taxes or actually less services with no accountability.
      And as for trust!
      Likewise you would have to be kidding.
      We are wedded to what we have because it is not in the interests of any politicians to change it, just as you do not find too many stable democracies changing their constitutions.
      Coalition governments do at least usually pull out a pack of razors when they get back in after Labor have inflated the ranks.

    • mikey says:

      11:21am | 08/11/10

      The “Big Government” mantra is conservative yankie spin and has no relevance to this country. Stop watching Fox News.

    • Andy1 says:

      08:00am | 06/11/10

      Difference being Obama has direction and attempts to run the country, Gillard spends her time attacking the Opposition and preparing slogans for them, plays on deception and has no direction. We have a Prime Minister still on her “L” plates.

    • Steve Putnam says:

      05:37pm | 07/11/10

      You don’t know what you’re talking about. There is a world of difference between the way the respective stimulus packages were administered in this country and the US.
      I was as skeptical as the next man when everyone was given (below a certain income threshold) $900 to spend but it seems to have worked. Money has kept circulating in the economy stimulating cash flow for small business. In the US, the lions share of the stimulus was spent buying up the toxic assets of banks and lending institutions basically throwing good money after bad. The situation is so bad now that you can buy repossessed three bedroom houses in some American cities for as little as $5,000.
      We have the best stats of any economy in the developed world with the lowest debt and the lowest unemployment despite Abbott’s attempt to oppose everything the government has done in response to the GFC.
      So far, under Abbott the Liberals have have come up with nothing but sheer, bloody-minded negativity, based on mindless repetition of stupid slogans about waste and ‘stopping the boats’.

    • Biteme says:

      08:16am | 06/11/10

      Makes you wonder is the Bilderberg conspiracy true?

    • The Badger says:

      08:36am | 06/11/10

      Bush did the damage
      Obama wasn’t even in the neighborhood.

      I know, Let’s blame the black guy.

    • Cynical Goat WA says:

      05:07pm | 06/11/10

      Yeah the only reason that the populace gave Obama a wake-up call was because he is of colour.
      Imbecilic solution to play the race card.

    • MarK says:

      07:09pm | 06/11/10

      This is extremely funny.

      It is a hoot.

      It is also typical

      The other thing to note is that Badger has not even tried to defend labor’s record. it is awesome.

      the othe cool thing is Badger, a keen student and deep thinker vis American politics, is happy to ignore the fact that teh American gave the Obama verdict. No one else.

    • Steve Putnam says:

      05:57pm | 07/11/10

      Pretty true. The mistakes the Obama Administration has made are small compared to those of its predecessor.
      What is truly alarming is the way these tea party wing nuts have worked up such a lather about Obama. I can’t believe race isn’t a factor in all of this.
      A couple of weeks ago I found a small video in my inbox on my You Tube page purporting to be the ‘truth about the Obama conspiracy’. It was arguing that Obama was basically a covert communist who would tax corporations out of existence and thereby introduce socialism. I fired a simple one sentence question back to them: Where were all you wackos when Cheney was robbing the American tax-payer blind? It was blocked.

    • acotrel says:

      07:00am | 08/11/10

      Badger, we’re supposed to forget what a total idiot Bush was!  The GFC occurred on his watch, and through his negligence! Of course how could you ever trust a black man whose creeping socialism involved providing adequate medical benefits for the poor? You’ve got to get your priorites right!

    • PaulB says:

      08:36am | 06/11/10

      Difficult things?  Obama?  Really?  What were they?  Sitting back while the Fed Reserve (the private banking cartel) printed more and more money, devaluing every US dollar in circulation, continuing and expanding Bush’s/Israel’s wars, ignoring America’s porous souther borders, allowing uncontrolled illegal immigration and Mexican drug crime to spill into the US, and that’s for starters.  If reading a teleprompter and looking imperious were difficult things to do then I suppose he’s done difficult things.  Nothing will be any different under Republican contol of the House as both parties are simply two sides of the same rotten, corrupt coin controlled by interests not concerned with the well-being of America.

    • The Badger says:

      09:04am | 06/11/10

      Perhaps Mark your perception is influenced by your News Ltd. / Fox paycheck? Maybe if you stopped the Fox gig, some perspective might return to your writing?

      Pink Batts - “the Government initially said its multi-billion program was brilliant, visionary policy”
      It was. The execution from dodgy brothers installation pty ltd stank.  The policy of helping homeowners insulate homes and reducing energy consumption was brilliant and visionary.

      Emissions trading - “The idea is now where the Opposition took it. Nowhere.”
      The Opposition took it there after they knocked it back several times, agreed to it, changed leaders and turned it into a “great big new tax” in line with Abbott’s oppose everything policy

      Bank competition reforms - “Why didn’t it say that in response to Hockey initially?”
      Not sure the government knows where those Hockey levers are. Do you?

      Border protection - “the only reason Nauru has not been re-opened”
      Actually it is because Nauru is not a signatory to the UNHCR treaty on refugees.

      Banking - Even Labor’s budgetary claims ... are being questioned
      You mean like a 12 billion dollar black-hole in the not costed costings by the Liberals? Or the fact that the rising Aussie dollar might affect revenue? I’m sure the rising Aussie dollar wouldn’t dare have interfered with coalition revenue. Julie Bishop would have stared it down. or perhaps Abbott would have just said NO.

    • TimB says:

      11:28am | 06/11/10

      Badger you do realise that the Coalitions “black hole” (as it were) was caused by the use of different interest rate assumptions? i.e. Tresury decided to use one figure the Coalition used another- end result equals a difference and the ignorant screaming “Black hole!!!” from the rooftops.

      And considering that the Coaltion was using the higher figure, and interest rates are rising…they were probably closer to the mark than what Treasury was.

      This is exactly the same situation the Labor government is in. A change in a variable (the value of the Aussie dollar) is causing a difference in the calculations.
      Except unlike the coalition who anticipated the interest rate rise, and calculated accordingly, Labor didn’t anticipate the dollar rise and didn’t plan. Despite every indication that the dollar’s value would go up.

      So why aren’t you screaming “black hole” at the Labor figures? It’s nearly the same situation, made even worse by Labor’s failure to anicipate change.Do I detect an element of hypocricy in your cheerleading?

      Labor are inept when it comes to economic management and this is just more proof.

    • Ben81 says:

      12:08pm | 06/11/10

      Badger, of all people Mark Kenny is hardly someone you’d call biased towards the Liberal party.  You’re the one who’s starting to sound like a caricature of the DPRK news service. 
      Labor can do no wrong, it’s just not possible.  The pink batts thing wasn’t a free for all cash grab where we will never see a shred of value for money (one problem on the long list there), it’s the Liberals fault that Kevin Rudd showed that his rhetoric on climate change was all political spin/lies, Labor were right to demonise the Howard government for offshore processing and also right to do it themselves, etc etc etc.  I doubt you have the slightest clue what that treaty actually is by the way, and why that tiny island nation can’t and shouldn’t sign it.  (yes, now is a good time to look it up).  They’ve made misguided moves towards signing it (because they want more chance of the processing centre opening up) that even refugee advocate groups questioned the value of.  It simply doesn’t have the resources to meet the obligations that would come from signing it, and a piece of paper isn’t going to change that.  I think I can safely guarantee that the position of the Labor party would be no different either way.

      “You mean like a 12 billion dollar black-hole in the not costed costings by the Liberals?”
      Not costed?  Thanks for the laugh.  You just proved you don’t even know what that so called “black hole” came from, just that you like the sound of the line.

    • Max Vaunted says:

      12:23pm | 06/11/10

      Oh Badger, talk about toeing the line, you must a worker for the Party. Don’t they give you the weekend off, or is it just Saturday mornings?

    • Lisa H. says:

      06:21pm | 06/11/10

      Swan has already started making excuses for the expected failure of the budget to come back to surplus.
      Good economic managers? Huh!
      They can’t even build a school canteen properly.
      My friend currently working as electrician on the Revolution school buildings project says the waste is mind-blowing.
      The building projects are so badly managed that he has repeatedly had to punch holes in newly laid bricks to get access to the electrical cavities.
      And, before all that money is even spent, the Reserve Bank is lifting interest rates to slow the booming economy.
      I am astonished that this kind of ‘governance’ and sheer, lunatic waste of hard-earned tax dollars is seen as reasonable, or, in some circles, even applauded as sensible economic management!

    • MarK says:

      07:17pm | 06/11/10

      Oh hai Badger.

      Seems the Mark’s think alike on this topic.

      Sounds like my arguments doesn’t it.


      Oh yes and just to echo TimB’s point isn’t it marvelous to see Treasury got the numbers wrong vis the exchange rate.

      I wonder if they also got the costings wrong on the coalition figures because of different and incorrect assumptions.

      HAHAHAHAHAHA

      It is all falling apart for Gillard Badger. Don’t worry - have a bex and a lie down. Combet and Shorten will be fighting it out early next year. then at least Labor will have a conviction pollie at the helm instead of an incompetent ranga.

      How careless of Labor. Looks like they will be losing 2 first term PM’s in the space of 12 months.

      that is tardy to say the least.

    • Steve Putnam says:

      06:56pm | 07/11/10

      Lisa H if you are really interested in the subject of government waste consider the Howard Government’s decision to purchase Seasprite helicopters.This makes any irregularities and waste such as may have occurred with the BER look like small change.
      Over 90% of the projects in the BER were on time, on budget and to the satisfaction of the recipients. The Seasprites cost the taxpayer over a billion up front for a helicopter that has never flown a single operational hour for the RAN. The error was then compounded by the $200 million purchase of Penguin air to surface missiles which cannot be fitted to any other Australian military aircraft.
      I admit that rip-offs have occurred during the BER but at least there is school infrastructure to show for it. With the Seasprite fiasco the taxpayer got nothing whatsoever. Federal Auditor General (appointed by the Howard Government in 2005) Ian McPhee, in his report submitted earlier this year, has suggested the final cost will run to $1.4 billion.
      Were you as vigilant about exposing waste when the LIberals were in power?

    • Lisa H. says:

      12:27pm | 08/11/10

      Are you sayng I’m a Libetal stooge simply because I have an opinion about the school halls (simple bricks and mortar, not cutting edge weapons technology) ?

      Defence spending is outside my experience. I read recently that current Australian shipbuilders, commissioned by this government perhaps, are having difficulty putting together defence warships.


      I drop off and pick up my children from school every day.
      I have a perfect right to express my opinion about the waste emanating from the BER school fiasco.
      If your argument is a call for smaller, more accountable government, I am all for it..
      The age of highly interventionist, big spending government surely is over. World War Two was a long time ago.

    • TimB says:

      10:15am | 06/11/10

      See, Tony Abbott’s opposition keeps getting derided by the LAabor cheer squad as consisting of “nothing but No” (Hi Badger). But as you point out, there’s a reason for that- Labor are hopeless.
      Every idea, every policy, every promise, has turned out to be stupid and just plain wrong. They end up dancing to the Coalition tune on everything, because the Coalition’s position ends up being much closer to reality.

      If Labor keep coming out with stupid things of course the Opposition is going to say “no”. That’s not an indictment of the Opposition, that’s an indictment of Labor’s inability to come up with anything decent.

    • Craig Mc says:

      10:59am | 06/11/10

      Everyone knew exactly what Obama had done, and they thought it stank.  They knew during those heated town-hall meetings, they knew all while the tea party grew from isolated curmudgeons into a mass movement.

      However, the democrats thought the electorate would all have short memories and they’d just be able to ride an economic recovery back into office.  Except even now they’re still oblivious to the notion that their policies put back any economic recovery.

    • PaulB says:

      12:07pm | 08/11/10

      The Tea Party grew into a mass movement of disaffected Americans across the political spectrum, and when it became a threat to the status quo it was co-opted hence the emergence of FOX celebrity garbage like Glen Beck and Sarah Palin as figureheads of the “movement”.  This ensured it was railroaded and driven into a ditch of classic brainless American patriotic stupidity.  The issues which gave rise to the Tea Party movement in the first instance are now safely dead and buried and the corruption of American politics continues as usual.  We really should tear up the ANZUS Treaty as this America is not the one we signed up with.

    • Greg says:

      12:39pm | 06/11/10

      Labor’s policy on asylum seekers can be summed up by 3 letters: ABN. Anywhere But Nauru

    • Mayday says:

      02:55pm | 06/11/10

      What if the Democrats do a Labor and Hilary “takes over” from Barack like Julia “took over” from Kevin?!

      We could then see Hilary standing against Sarah, now that would be worth watching!

    • NicoleG says:

      07:07pm | 06/11/10

      I’d pay to see that! And I reckon Sarah would completely demolish her.

    • nosthow says:

      03:52pm | 06/11/10

      All I know Mark is that its the result that counts and in Australia Labor is in government with Ms Gillard as our PM and Tony Abbott who was handed a win on a plate came a gutser and is languishing as Opposition Leader whilst the Liberals look around their talentless party for a real leader - boys I have news for you - there aint none! hahahahhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • Ben81 says:

      07:15pm | 06/11/10

      Ladies and gentlemen, behold, a prime specimen of Laborus Voterus.  Please do not feed him or get too close to his cage.  Many good rational men lost brain cells and became gibbering idiots in frustration trying to capture the beast without proper hearing protection.

    • MarK says:

      07:26pm | 06/11/10

      Dude he was unelectable rememebr.

      you kept telling us that.

      Now you have changed your mind post election.

      Disingenious and tardy.

      Oh and deceitful.

      Tsk tsk

      Let me remind you

      ”  nosthow says:

        12:35pm | 19/08/10

        2 days to go and Tony Abbott is history ! Looks like the poor little bugger is panicking as he says he wont sleep for 48 hours whilst he campaigns ! Now what on earth could Tony have to tell the public that he couldnt do it in 10, maybe 15 minutes. He has no policies and no vision for Australia. Goodbye Tony !”

      Why do you want to change your tune now.

      Stop lying and try to be a little consistent.

    • nosthow says:

      09:14pm | 06/11/10

      @MarK - still out there fella earning your $3 an hour as Liberal Blog Monitor Marky , all over Punch’s blog like a blanket on a bed fella. Have you bought a TV yet Marky ?

    • TimB says:

      11:10pm | 06/11/10

      Is anyone else suffering a severe case of deja vu when they read Nosthow’s post?

    • nosthow says:

      08:14am | 07/11/10

      @Ben81 -and you have an assistant MarK - poor old Benny. No honestly you sad chaps are what is known in the business as “Denialists” - that is you deny the actual situation as it is. Now fellas just to help you along Labor is in power in Australia and the Liberals are in Opposition and with the dud leader they have in Abbott most likely will be in Opposition for possibly a decade to come ! Oh yea !!!!!

    • NicoleG says:

      03:52pm | 07/11/10

      @TimB, I liken it to regurgitated drivel. Same sh!t, different day. You know what gets me? A week and a half ago, he was saying how he likes Abbott. Maybe he forgot? Odd.

    • MarK says:

      07:12pm | 06/11/10

      Mark Kenny,

      You have been reading my posts and have stolen everything I have been saying.

      Shame on you.

      but you are right.

      The question you now have to start asking and investigating is whether Gillard is capable of turning around.

      I contend that she is incompetent. i do not think she has the skill set to do it.

      Come March she is toast. Everything is getting worse for her and the recent Asian tour only showed how inept and out of touch she is.

      Discuss

    • Cate P says:

      08:48pm | 06/11/10

      Exactly MarK, she hasn’t got the skills and shows no interest in acquiring them.  And if everthing the govt does is crap then its a bit strange to expect the opposition to praise it.  The Asian tour was awful to watch.  Sheeting home the blame to the other nations in our region for not cooperating and thus enabling the regional processing centre to get off the ground won’t wash either.  Disaster looming.

    • nosthow says:

      09:20pm | 06/11/10

      The big problem for Abbott Mark is that he is going backwards in the polls and as we all know in politics the polls toll for thee ! Obama has at least 2 more years to serve unlike the King Of The Budgie Smugglers Tones Abbott who we should see depart the scene by mid 2011 at the latest - maybe even good old Bronny Bishop may ge a crack at the top Liberal job - say theres an idea that may help the Liberabbles ! hhhahhhhhhhhhhh

    • TimB says:

      11:12pm | 06/11/10

      He is? Then why has the Coalition 2PP figure increased markedly?

      I wasn’t confident of the election result a few months ago. I am confident now though, if an election was held tomorrow, Tony would win. Labor are looking incrasingly clueless with each passing day, and the Australian people are starting to notice.

    • Keith hammersmith says:

      11:30am | 07/11/10

      your not too bright are you nosthow?
      twice in as many a weeks you have ranted on about Tony losing the unlosable election, handed on a platter etc, and each time you have been called on your hypocrasy, above quoted saying the opposite during the election.
      Ill say it again as your limited intellect needs to hear it again im sure befor snibits of information may sink in.
      here do some home work yourself
      ask yourself, how many times has a first term government lost power in australia?
      how many seats did labor have going into the election, and how many coming out of it?
      If you had asked anyone 3 months before the election to predict the outcome, no one predicted how poorly Labor would have done, and how well Tony did, it was by no means (your self included) considered unlosable by tony at any time.

      But information/facts have never been a strong part of your rhetoric, so im sure this time next week we hsall have the same post from you again, with some brilliant observational quips about Tony’s attire or something equally as witty

    • John Passant says:

      09:22pm | 06/11/10

      To quote from an article I posted on my blog En Passant with John Passant
      ‘By serving the interests of the elite and abandoning any commitment to even meager reforms, the Democrats disappoint and demoralize their core supporters, and they give the Republicans the opportunity to energize theirs. ’ The comparison with Gillard is perfectly apt.

    • monkeytypist says:

      10:47pm | 06/11/10

      It wasn’t so much that Obama “did too much”, it’s that his approaches to problems didn’t motivate or inspire his support base nearly as much as it did his opponents (his weak and overly complicated healthcare plan being the biggest example).  It wasn’t that he didn’t see his achievements well - it’s that his achievements were too difficult to grasp because they fell well short of what his supporters had hoped for.  Ineffectual timidity has been the Democrat modus operandi in government for some years now, and it seems to have been masterfully adopted by Australian admirers like Karl “triangulation” Bitar, to predictably horrible results.

    • Aitch B says:

      05:44am | 07/11/10

      Ah….. nosthow rides again.

      Unable to defend his beloved ALP semi-government and comment in any constructive way on the topic in hand he reverts to the tried and true mindless name calling and in your face ‘nya nya nya nya nya - we won!’ rubbish that is of such great value to political debate.

      Thanks for brightening up my weekend…......

    • Brian Taylor says:

      07:09am | 07/11/10

      the real reason obama and gillard copped it was because of their socialist policies, the usa and austalia are not socialist countrys and hopefully, never will be.
      both obama and gillard will be one termers for sure and the sooner the better

    • Economist says:

      11:26am | 07/11/10

      I’ll see your partisan and raise you are partisan.

      Brian Taylor (and LIsa H), both Australia and the USA are socialist countries. Both run welfare programs, both run public health and education programs. it’s the level of welfare that differs. The total Australian government (Fed, State, Local) take around 30% of GDP to provide the services you enjoy. In the US it’s around 28%. The difference is they spend trillions more on defence and quite frankly save us from having to spend more on our defence budget. Clearly you don’t know what a socialist policy is.  Socialism is not Communism.

      I’d prefer to live in Australia where we only spend around 5.8% of total GDP on healthcare compared with the USA’s 15% and yet we achieve better healthcare outcomes. Did you see Australia was ranked the second best place to live in the world after Norway, precisely because we have a good mix of private and public.

      Lisa H the US system exposes it to larger fluctuations precisely because of it’s instability in delivering appropriate government programs.  The Yanks don’t work any harder than us.

      As for Gillard MarK she previously ran one of the largest government department’s and in three years repealed WorkChoices, overhauled and simplified the awards system, implemented BER, implemented a National curriculum and MySchools website,  and overhauled the employments service market. Your beloved Liberals spent 13 years focussing mainly on workplace relations and in the end the electorate rebuked their final iteration, Workchoices.

      For god sake she’s been in power less than 3 months with a government on a knife edge and you think that she’s meant to have delivered all her election promises by now. By the way Abbott only got around a 2% swing to him. it wasn’t a smashing. 

      A lot of you bloggers really need to understand the role government plays, by all means I think we’re over-governed and lets get rid of the states, but don’t under-estimate the role of the government to achieve economies of scale and deliver programs.

    • Economist says:

      11:41am | 07/11/10

      Sorry MarK I should have clarified, after my examples,  that Gillard clearly isn’t incompetent. Particularly as prior to her becoming Prime Minister my Liberal contacts were praising her.

    • James says:

      04:41pm | 07/11/10

      Rudd promised too much, Gillard not promising anything at all. I can’t believe we keep voting for these idiots.

    • Grumpy says:

      02:43pm | 09/11/10

      I didnt smile...still waiting for that fine.

    • Louisa says:

      09:46pm | 07/11/10

      The problem with Gillard and BO is that they are both fools

    • Daniel says:

      07:04am | 08/11/10

      In a way I feel for Obama. He has tried to change things policy wise but has been hampered for taking too long to do it. Then he had the BP oil spill. I think that was not good for him either. He should have taken more drastic action and got that sorted out faster. On health what he i8s doing is a good thing in the USA but the opposition to it and some of the arguments are just insane. It proves Americans really are dopey.

    • Arnold Layne says:

      01:54pm | 08/11/10

      Conservative political views have their place, but not the way they do it in the US.  It’s based on fear, xenophobia, nationalism and ignorance.  Rational debate on the size of government and its role in driving the national agenda is fine, but when was the last time the Republicans did that?

 

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