A Nielson poll has reported that about half of Australians are open to nuclear energy being considered as part of the solution reducing carbon emissions, up from 38% in 2006.  So the question remains as to why half of the population doesn’t even want nuclear on the table as an option. 

Vandellos 2 nuclear power station in Spain which has been experiencing some safety problems recently

Is the dislike or even fear of nuclear power a rational one?  The threat of nuclear war or nuclear power station accidents such as Chernobyl or Long Island (the only two accidents of any significance) should not be taken lightly; nuclear energy is awesome in the true meaning of the world. 

But does it actually deserve the bad reputation is carries? 

Australia is one of the largest producers of uranium in the world, producing almost 20% of the global total in 2008 (World Nuclear Association). 

Given that we (or at least our government) are happy to dig the stuff out of the ground and sell it to nations that have signed the anti-nuclear proliferation treaty, it is rather hypocritical to be anti-nuclear power in Australia.

There is no doubt that nuclear power stations, especially when improperly designed and/or managed, have the potential to be catastrophes.

But every large energy project has a risk profile, and history shows that nuclear power is safer than coal, oil, gas and even hydropower (Energy Technology Perspectives (ETP) 2008, International Energy Agency).

Hundreds of people are killed mining coal, gas and oil every year, and millions of people suffer from the direct negative effects of pollution from fossil fuel power plants. 

And, the impacts of climate change are likely to put tens or hundreds of millions of people around the world in dire situations due to rising sea levels and increased frequencies of extreme events such as droughts and cyclones.  The waste from nuclear power is nasty stuff, but at least we know how to contain it safely.  The same cannot be said for carbon dioxide.

So, yes we should be cautious of nuclear energy, but one cannot say it is too dangerous and keep using coal. 

The International Energy Agency in its ETP2008 study showed that globally, at least 24 large nuclear power stations will need to be built every year between now and 2050 as part of the effort to reduce carbon emissions to 50% of current levels.

The study also shows that vast increases in wind and solar energy are required. That being said, the chances that nuclear energy will be the solution to Australia’s carbon emission problem anytime soon are small. 

In countries where nuclear energy is well established, it takes 10 years to build a station, from the start of the planning process to the plant coming online.

It could take 20 years for Australia to find the necessary expertise (already a global shortage of nuclear engineers looms), get plans approved, convince the general public it’s a good idea, raise the capital and built a multi-billion dollar plant.  And, given our lack of experience, it is likely nuclear energy will be expensive, even compared to coal with carbon capture and storage (CCS).

Proponents of nuclear (and coal) claim that wind and solar cannot meet consumer needs as the sun doesn’t always shine and the wind always blow. 

But new ideas such as the banks of electric vehicle batteries absorbing the variability from wind farms and solar farms with liquid salt heat storage, plus the introduction of a Smart Grid will allow a larger portion of wind and solar onto the grid without instability. 

Gas turbines can provide peaking power (as they already do) and there are hopes that geothermal could also provide a steady and controllable electricity supply with carbon emissions.

The government should remove the ban from nuclear power (although given the enduring fear of “nukes” this might be politically unwise) and allow the markets to sort out if nuclear is a viable option for Australia. 

But, given the financial barriers to nuclear, and the attractiveness of wind and solar as other low carbon alternatives, I doubt we’ll see nuclear power stations in Australia anytime soon.

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    • watto says:

      07:37am | 14/10/09

      Given the article below,  I’m not sure you have done your research properly. Do we even have the expertise in Australia to deal with Uranium mining planning or long term management? I doubt it. I can’t even get a response from Garret or my local memeber on this issue.

      Roger, I think we have to be more wary of more likely and dangerous nuclear threats such as outlined below:

      Academy Award nominated documentary maker David Bradbury has spoken out, raising public concerns of the red dust dumped onto east coast cities this week as concerning with BHP Billiton proposing to turn South Australia’s Olympic Dam uranium mine into an open-cut mine larger than Adelaide. 
      Minister for Mines and energy, Paul Holloway says that dust is a problem, which will need to be looked into at the Olympic Dam mine. 
      BHP Billiton have refused to discuss “in public,” an issue which has the potential to effect the health of the entire population of Australia.
      The public are also wondering with the proposed life of the mine, where the water will come from to contain radioactive tailings of such magnitude. 
       
      http://cooberpedyregionaltimes.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/filmmaker-david-bradbury-red-dust-dump-originating-at-woomera-is-grave-concern-for-public-health/

    • watty says:

      08:21am | 14/10/09

      Could you give source of ‘Vandellos 2 recent safety problems"and what category they were? The last safety shut down I can find is 2007.

      Spains claims on wind and solar power should serve as a warning to the Australian Governemnt and all Australians. about so called"attractiveness ” of wind and solar.

      Energy charges in Spain are set by Government and the subsidies are mind boggling.

      Wind power subsidised at 90% of market value for the first 15 years then dropping to a mere 80%

      Solar is subsidisedup to 575% of market value dropping to 460% after 25 years.

      The 50,000 “green’ jobs claimed by the Spanish Government turned into 15,000 with most of the jobs occurring during the construction phase with very few during the operational stage
      Considering a “green’ State like California used 14% renewables in their energy mix with solar making up onlt 1% of the 14% and wind only 4% I can’t see how solar and wind are viable for Australia without massive subsidies from Governemnt (i.e taxcpayers)

    • Lexi says:

      08:50am | 14/10/09

      We should be looking to geothermal to provide baseload electricity and a combination of wind, solar, hydro to provide peakload power and gas turbines for top up power.  These are cheap and the power renewable.  There is a capital set up cost, and little in terms of ongoing costs.  There is no ill legacy - be it waste in the air or in the ground, and vast tracts of land are not mutilated by the scars of mining.

      Nuclear, like coal, requires fuel provided by mining.  How do they get and process these resources?  Using diesel to power mining equipment and who knows what to power the processing.  Then there’s the waste - we leave another mess for future generations.  The difference is, when vehicles and machinery were developed during the industrial revolution, they had no idea of the legacy of pollution it would leave us.  We KNOW the legacy we’re leaving our children with nuclear waste.

      And, if 50% of the Australian population is for nuclear power stations, do I assume they are happy to have them located in their suburb?  Australia, the home of NIMBYs… Let’s be clear, people are only okay with the idea as long as it’s not near their home, their kids’ schools, their office, their business, their parks.

      There are only positive legacies left by using renewable, green energy.  Let’s do it.

    • Craig Lambie says:

      08:55am | 14/10/09

      That “nasty stuff”, that comes out of a reactor, is not only potentially a nuclear weapon, with a little bit of re-engineering, but it also have a half life of 100,000 years. (http://www.history.rochester.edu/class/EZRA/) That is a LONG time to be storing waste… it isn’t like you can just chuck it in the bin and forget about it!
      Let alone the water and soil depredation.
      Nuclear uses more water than any other form of Energy generation (http://carrotsandsticks.org/2009/09/04/the-problem-with-nuclear-and-coal/).
      Suggesting we use Nuclear to create power in a Dry Country like Australia, where we are already building DeSal plants just for the population, is ridiculous.

    • John A Neve says:

      08:58am | 14/10/09

      Once again we debate the wrong issue. The real question is how do we curb the increasing demand for energy?

      But moving on, every thing I have read suggest Australia has 200 years of uranium reserves. If we increase demand that 200 years will decrease so in less than 200 years we will face the same situation and will have spent billions of dollars in the meantime.

      Now to the article, “at least we know how to contain it safely”, do we?  Please tell, what have I missed and if the article is correct why are we still arguing about where we put it?

      “A risk profile anf history shows nuclear power is safer”, this would have to be a very unbalanced profile, after all we have been minning coal for over 400 hundred years, there are many thousands coal powered generators in use, to try to equate accidents is at best stupid.

      Personel, I would much prefer a coal generator in my backyard than a nuclear one. Even though coal is dirty.

    • BMJ says:

      09:22am | 14/10/09

      Well Australia missed an opportunity in the 90’s to start this process off. Yes 10-20 years is a long time but we would be seeing light at the end of tunnel if sensationalist hysterics were ignored when this debate was raging.

    • hoofman says:

      09:34am | 14/10/09

      I’ll be 60 in 2 years. I expect to live to be 90. My prediction - no nuclear power generators will be built in Australia in my lifetime. No state government will even propose one. The proponents can talk it up all they like - won’t happen. I see Bob Carr is a nuclear proponent. Funny, he didn’t say that once during his 10 years as NSW premier.

    • Liz says:

      09:38am | 14/10/09

      And so the campaign started by Howard goes on,  to get the Aussie public to accept nuclear power generation.We’ve heard all the arguments before.We need to reduce our power needs, legislate for each household,factory,business to generate their own power.We have the technology let’s use it.

    • Zeta says:

      09:38am | 14/10/09

      Why is it that when Kim Jong-Ill, or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad cuts the ribbon on a shiny new nuclear reactor their respective ‘constituents’ throw a parade, but in the decadent West, the very thought of nuclear power sets our teeth on edge?

      Nuclear Power is not just about energy production. It’s the physical manifestation of man’s ability to control the environment around him. Capital P political power, in the philosophical sense.

      There remains cultures around the world where the acquisition of this kind of power, true political power remains something to be respected. Australia is clearly not one of them.

    • Hopium says:

      09:45am | 14/10/09

      If you further questioned the people who said yes to nuclear power - as in “ok, we’ll put it within 5km of your home - now how do your feel?” - I’d suggest that the answer would be a resounding “F-off!!!”

      I had an interesting albeit brief discussion with a famous British fantasy author re Australians and nuclear power. He stated that we have so much desert, we can bury waste there. After all, it’s dead space.

      Um, no Mr Pratchett, it’s not dead space. There is life there. There are shifting sands (well, dust). Contamination would be a huge issue. Even if the radioactive material is ‘packaged’.

      I then went on to explain that I hope out great hopes for the wave power generator off Port Kembla. Seemed to pique his interest.

      In the meantime, there is so much unused space on top of our roofs. Fantasy-wise, every roof covered in solar panels!

      Now, THAT is sensible power generation.

    • Penny says:

      09:55am | 14/10/09

      There will be no nuclear discussion in the Federal Political scene because before the federal election Kevin Rudd made a promise there would not be a nuclear power plant built in Australia under his Government. Kevin Rudd is a man of his word, so you may as well forget it until the Libs get back in, maybe in a bout 20 years time. LOL

    • John A Neve says:

      09:59am | 14/10/09

      Zeta,
      You don’t really mean that do you? Political power is about control, control of your fellow man. Political power is the direct opposite of Democracy.
      That is why the Kim Jong’s of this world struggle to get and hold it. We might have a very weak form of democracy, but at least we are trying.

    • iansand says:

      10:20am | 14/10/09

      After consideration, commissioning nuclear power stations may prove to be unwise.  Refusing to consider nuclear power (the ALP position) is stupid.  At least examine the option.

    • C says:

      10:22am | 14/10/09

      Nuclear power is a non issue almost everywhere except here, but then again Australia has always been behind the times.
      The left do have trouble letting go of some issues even after the world has moved on.
      The only country to have a nuclear bomb dropped on is happy use nuclear power, go figure?

    • wattty says:

      10:26am | 14/10/09

      Ignorance or misinformation is bliss.Check the locations of the nuclear power stations supplying 60 million French with 70% of their electricity requirements.

      Check the nuclear power stations just outside Glasgow and Edinburgh which have had no effect on residents or on Scottish tourist numbers.

      Try and find the suburbs the nuclear power stations supplying Toronto are situated in.

      Actually the crowd on the beach in the photo at the top of the article didn’t seem to be panic stricken?

      For the disciples of wind and solar I suggest you give my earlier comment on Spanish “renewables” and their cost before getting too carried away.

      As for legislating for eveyone to generate their own electricity I would suggest the proponent hadn’t thought this one through.

      Without Governemnt support you would be in the dark…..come to think of it ..you possibly wouldn’t notice the difference.

    • Zeta says:

      10:35am | 14/10/09

      @ John A Neve: Democracy is great when the most pressing concerns of your population is a bunch of medical students rubbing bootblack on their faces during prime time television. But when the enemy is at the gates, when those Kim Jong’s of the world do get a hold of sufficent power to threaten our way of life, and our weak democracy, what then?

      Nuclear Power, even as benign as a reactor, is a deterrent to foreign antagonists, as well as being an efficent means of energy production.

      But the people of Australia, or at least half of them according the recent polls, are content being mediocre, and don’t want to make the sacrifices to be a regional super power.

    • DWest says:

      10:57am | 14/10/09

      It"s a sad day for Aussie science when filmakers do more rigorous research on national-scale issues than Universities.

      And scientists believe Nielsen polls now? Please!

      (Using Rogers faulty logic: Weapons of Mass Destruction are safe in the right hands too)

    • Trjn says:

      10:59am | 14/10/09

      Of course most people who are for nuclear power don’t want to have the power station in their neighbourhood. They probably don’t want coal power stations in their neighbourhood either.

      I’m all for nuclear power, if the waste can be safely contained, then what’s the problem? It’s not the only option, it might not be the best option, but in terms of the options currently available it’s a pretty damn good one.

      As for Pratchett’s thoughts on the matter, he did work for the Electricity Board as a press officer shortly after Three Mile Island, so I’m sure he understands the risks of nuclear power better than most people.

    • HooHoo says:

      11:42am | 14/10/09

      I, like many Australians, support nuclear power to fight to Climate change, but when it is being pushed in particular by Ziggy-whatever his name is and Ron Walker, there is an agenda beyond that, that Bush and Cheney would have supported it.

      To finish, I support nuclear power being introduced in Australia, but when it is those people pushing it, there is a hidden agenda.

    • Jo says:

      11:58am | 14/10/09

      Of course, the elephant in the room with “peaceful nuclear power” is nuclear proliferation. Every country which has developed an atomic bomb since the nuclear non-proliferation treaty came into effect, did so using the pretense of a “peaceful nuclear power” program.  And we all know one nuclear bomb can spoil your whole day….

    • Beast says:

      12:23pm | 14/10/09

      Rudd may have promised no nuclear power for Australia under his Government, BUT if he see’s the voters are moving towards the idea I can gaurantee he will start to change his mind. EVERY VOTE COUNTS!

    • Graham Gillard says:

      01:18pm | 14/10/09

      Chernobyl was the product of a failed, corrupt political system. No one was injured in the Three Mile Island breakdown.

    • Simon Mundy says:

      02:42pm | 14/10/09

      i used to go swimming in the sea at Dungeoness in the UK which had a reactor on the beach - the water was the only spot in the English Channel warm enough for a dip.  Could do with the same in Melbourne.

    • bristol chick says:

      02:55pm | 14/10/09

      All the pros and cons of nuclear power are discussed in detail at Prof. Barry Brook’s (Adelaide University) web site http://www.bravenewclimate.com. Many previous opponents to nuclear energy, like myself, have been convinced by the information relating to costs, waste, proliferation, and longevity etc solved by the new GenIV Integral Fast Reactors.  Of the G20 nation 15 have nuclear power, 4 are currently building reactors and only 1 (you guessed it) Australia is trenchantly opposed. We will once again be left behind in the technology race.

    • Ben.Dover says:

      03:12pm | 14/10/09

      nuclear power’s all well and good, yes it’s relatively safe (provided it’s not built on an active fault line - Lucas Heights - ooops). The big problem is always going to be dealing with the waste. Until such time as we can come up with a practical and long term safe solution to the issue of waste storage then it’s a non player in the Australian electricity market…. geothermal should be seen as our best hope in the time frames we have, if only the Fed Gov would invest as much money in geothermal land as they are currently in dream land (clean coal… there is no such thing)

    • Lexi says:

      03:18pm | 14/10/09

      People talk about Australia being “left behind” because we don’t follow the nuclear crowd, but this is really our opportunity to be the “clever country” once again by moving on to something better - like geothermal power generation.  By refusing to canvass the latest technology - not just the one “everyone else” is using we really are headed for medicrity.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      03:23pm | 14/10/09

      Gee we are a disjointed lot. Everyone wants green green green, wind, solar, geo-thermal (yes I know there is a trial in SA), clean coal, wave / water energy and anything else one can come up with. Unfortunately these are not available to support the base load requirement let alone our GROWING need for power. Furthermore, as I understand it the company that was building Australia’s largest solar power station just went belly up recently.

      The only viable option that can deliver, meet and economically sustain our power needs within a narrow time window is nuclear power.

      So, why are we di-king around?

      Why would we not send our nuclear experts (Dr Switkowski et al??) for example to France (pretty nice place) so that we can learn from the experts, or for that matter any other country that a government committee (oh dear sorry about that!!) deems appropriate & necessary.

      France’s nuclear power stations export about 18% of their power to Italy (silly folks who had a knee jerk reaction to the Chernobyl incident and subsequently decommissioned all of their Nuk stations), Holland, Denmark, UK and other countries. They are one if not the biggest exporter of electric power in the world. Their energy costs are for example 60% cheaper than that of Italy.  As a major economy, France I think is or is very close to been the lowest emitter of GHG.

      For Australia, the tyranny of distance definitely has its upside but it also helps to keep our heads well and truly buried in the sand. The world is embracing nuclear power with even our northern neighbours starting to either plan or commence building nuclear power stations.

      Of the G20 nations every country has, is planning or has proposed (Italy, Indonesia, Turkey and even the United Arab Emirates) to build commercial nuclear power plants, the only exception, you guessed it Australia. 

      It will be interesting to see what happens in this space and the direction we eventually head.

    • Freddo says:

      04:49pm | 14/10/09

      For all of you geothermal nuts,
      where are our hot rocks located? have you heard of transmission losses?
      Solar- too expensive, much more than nuclear
      Wind- Viable but not reliable enough.

      Nuclear power plants dotted along the coast line (where the vast majority of Australians live) is the way to go.
      And yes i would love to have one in my backyard

    • Sage says:

      06:14am | 15/10/09

      There are 3 reasons why we haven’t already got nuclear power, 1) affordability, 2) the politics of fear, by successive governments, and agenda driven fear mongers, and 3) the same old dreary and cumbersome ritual that pervaded Australia during WW2 at Gen Macarthur’s headquarters’ frustration with the PMG, for example. Back to the Future!

    • bristil chick says:

      05:03pm | 16/10/09

      http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/10/16/ifr-spm/#comment-30941
      Full details of new Gen IV IFR reactors which can be run on NUCLEAR WASTE! No need to mine more uranium for 1,500 years OR if we still mine uranium then it will last FOREVER!  Other criticisms e.g cost, accidents, etc also debunked.

    • Gregory D. MELLOTT says:

      11:44am | 26/12/09

      Not an Australian.  New York City put in a super-conductor from Niagara Falls recently,  Transmission losses are not insurmountable.  If you go deep enough one can probably get hot-rock geothermal going any place on earth.  Then there is problem areas like Krakatoa’s re-appearance.  [Don’t live there either.]  The problems of developing and using Geothermal should be surmounted world-wide.

    • wjgrun says:

      11:03pm | 01/04/10

      No matter what others say, I think it is still interesting and useful maybe necessary to improve some minor things

    • BetsyCRAFT24 says:

      04:18pm | 02/10/10

      All people deserve very good life time and loan or just financial loan will make it much better. Because people’s freedom is based on money.

 

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