With Indigenous Affairs Minister Jenny Macklin in the Northern Territory last week consulting on “what’s next?” for the Northern Territory Emergency Response, it’s timely to throw the concept of ‘exit strategies’ into the mix.  In particular, how do people exit the Government’s income management program and take control of their finances?

20, 000 people in the NT have their welfare quarantined

It’s a very real dilemma for governments at all levels.  Teetotalers and drunks, spenders and savers, good and bad parents - it makes no difference.  If you’re an Aboriginal person receiving welfare payments in the NT, you live under the Emergency Response and half your welfare must be spent on the priority goods like food, clothes, rent and health care. 

You can’t use the money for alcohol, tobacco, pornography or gambling – well at least not the quarantined half anyway…

To be honest, I agree with the concept to a certain extent.  For dead beat Aboriginal parents who spend all their welfare on booze, smokes, porn and punting rather then feeding and clothing their kids they should have their welfare money quarantined.  I also think the same about dead beat white parents.

This is where the concept derails. The overwhelming majority of Indigenous Australians who have their income managed are good people who look after their family.  They love and care for their kids, respect themselves and their culture.  And they are as fiscally responsible as their fellow Australians receiving their entire welfare payment to spend as they wish – because they live outside the NT.

The government will argue it is impossible to tell the difference between the dead beats and the good people in remote Indigenous communities.  That’s how they justify the use of a broad sword rather than a scalpel to impose income management.  It’s a one-in-all-in policy where everyone is ‘guilty by geography’.

However, with over 20,000 people now having their welfare quarantined in the NT it’s kind of a moot point these days.  The income management horse has well and truly bolted.  The big question is what is the Federal Government’s exit strategy?  Not for the dead beats, but rather the innocent bystanders who were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The challenge must keep Macklin and her Department awake at night (you’d hope).  How does the Government provide a pathway for people who can, and want to, take control of their own finances and ultimately their own destiny?

Cape York’s alternative income management approach appears to offer some insights.  Firstly, there is no blanket application of income management by the Government.  Rather a Family Responsibilities Commission (FRC) made up of Aboriginal community members will hold residents accountable for not looking after themselves or their kids. 

Like everywhere else in Australia (except the NT) you’re innocent until proven guilty.

The FRC has the power to direct all or part of a person’s income support payments to be managed by Centrelink to pay for the priority needs of their family.

The FRC will advise Centrelink how much of a person’s payments will be income managed. It is likely to be 60 or 75 per cent of regular fortnightly payments and all of any advances and lump sum payments.

While I’m sure it has some wrinkles which still need to be ironed out, on the surface it appears a much fairer system. 

However, in the NT I simply can’t say the same.  It was a half-baked policy when introduced by Coalition and it remains so under Labor’s stewardship.

By punishing both the good and bad, the Government provides no incentive to be good.  By not involving the community in setting the standard or holding its residents accountable it becomes another big brother standard and a perceived unfair punishment.

But here’s the really scary thing.  In the long run the Government runs the risk of creating a generation who expects it – the Government - to set aside money to literally buy their toilet paper.

It’s a little hard to see how people can move forward under such circumstances or how “social norms” can be truly established.  I’m sure the ‘big wigs’ in Canberra know this, but you never know…

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    • Erick says:

      05:51am | 14/07/11

      “In the long run the Government runs the risk of creating a generation who expects it – the Government - to set aside money to literally buy their toilet paper.”

      How is this any different from the expectations raised by permanent welfare? The Government has already created generations of people who expect it to pay them merely for existing.

      As to the issue of income management - it’s the taxpayers’ money, provided by the Government, that is being managed. There is a very simple solution for those who don’t like it: Earn some money of your own, and you can spend it as you please.

    • Carz says:

      07:28am | 14/07/11

      Erick said “There is a very simple solution for those who don’t like it: Earn some money of your own, and you can spend it as you please.”

      Gee, of course, its so simple. Because of course there are enough jobs for everyone, especially in remote areas.

    • Stephy says:

      07:33am | 14/07/11

      It’d be nice if all welfare was managed. It’d certainly make me feel better aboiut supporting dole bludgers when they can only buy food, clothes and board. Call me cruel, but it’s not often I see welfare money going on those.

    • Michael says:

      07:44am | 14/07/11

      Spot on Erick, if you survive on handouts and guilt trips you have limited yourself to receiving from the generosity of others, if a person desires more, they are welcome to use that hand to make their own.

      Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach him to fish and he will feed himself forever, help him forget he already knew how to fish before we got here and ...

      After peak oil and peak food and peak water, the Aboriginal people that have kept their knowledge may well be our saviours, we might have to save them a couple times before they save us back.

    • Sony B Goode says:

      07:47am | 14/07/11

      What their legs don’t work? Maybe I can sit at home and wait for a job too.

      Is it just me or is the aboriginal “flag” appearing on more and more government buildings since the Gillard marxists have lied there way into power?

    • Seanr says:

      08:35am | 14/07/11

      here’s an idea Carz, how about they move to areas where there are jobs, you know like everyone else does….

    • TChong says:

      09:36am | 14/07/11

      Sonny B
      What is it about the koori flag that upset you so much?
      Kooris having one, or kooris having the pride to fly it ?

    • AdamC says:

      09:38am | 14/07/11

      Erick, I disagree. While you are correct that welfare recipients should be working - and should be encouraged to do so through the use of both carrot and stick policies - income management just makes a bad problem worse. Not only is the government replacing the individual imperative to support onesself, it is also taking on the individual responsibility to manage one’s personal affairs.

      It’s a double-whammy of infantilisation and dehumanisation that just makes it even less likley that recipients will ever help themselves. Therefore, it should only be contemplated where welfare recipients can demonstrably not look after themslelves or their kids.

    • Kevin says:

      10:18am | 14/07/11

      @Erick
      “Earn some money of your own, and you can spend it as you please.”
      Unfortunately, often it’s not that simple. 
      In places like Darwin, if an indigenous person gets a job and rents a nice place, often it’s not long before all the relatives start moving in.  The person finds themselves having to support a large extended family and various other interlopers (and there are strong cultural pressures to do so) and inevitably the nice home gets trashed.

    • Fiddler says:

      10:50am | 14/07/11

      @Kevin. Then they are responsible for that. If my family were toxic to me I would tell them to go and fornicate themselves rectally with a pineapple.

      While we keep using the excuses of “cultural expectations” they will get nowhere. I know a lot of aboriginals, the only ones who have made anything of themselves are those who have moved away from their families.

    • centurion48 says:

      10:56am | 14/07/11

      @Sony B Goode & @TChong: Actually the article is about Yolngu people not Koori people. The flag is an interesting diversion but hardly relevant to the intervention.

    • stockinbingal roo says:

      12:01pm | 14/07/11

      We’ve already created people who expect handouts, just look at he uproar over the carbon tax. This week a facebook friend who has 4 kids, (to three fathers), and lives thanks very much in a housing commission house was ranting about how much she hates the Labor party, the Liberals can have her!

    • James1 says:

      12:19pm | 14/07/11

      Adam, firstly, while I understand the principle you invoke, I agree with Erick on this one.  Secondly, I see it less as infantilisation and more as punishment for being on the dole to begin with.  If you can not manage your affairs to the extent that the state must support you, then you have no inherent right to economic freedom in the sense you are thinking.

      If it is made clear to all welfare dependent Australians that there is no potential for economic freedom in the welfare system, surely they will be more motivated to try and get out from under it.

    • AdamC says:

      02:19pm | 14/07/11

      James1, you mean, like income management as a deterrent to welfare dependence? Maybe. While I think your reasoning is sound, I would be concerned that, assuming one doesn’t get off welfare quickly, they will be conditioned to be even less personally responsible than they already are.

      I’m going to have to think about this one a bit more. ( This is the second time this week I have found my opinion challenged with compelling arguments on the Punch.)

    • Sony B Goode says:

      03:39pm | 14/07/11

      It’s an Australian government and nation, not a koori government.

      Bleeding hearts seem to make good canon fodder for the Marxist world view of oppressor and oppressed, or put it another way theres a sucker born every minute.

    • Sam says:

      08:00pm | 15/09/11

      Wow, you lot reinforce all the douts my people have in the anglo/aussies ability to grow and show some restraint, maybe thats how we ended up with these social issues, my kids are safer anywhere compaired to your religous institutions. Why are you people commenting on the net while im at work?

    • Sony b Goode says:

      07:31am | 14/07/11

      These people survived for 20,000 years without Marxist redistribution or even a flag, whats changed now?

    • Fiona says:

      07:50am | 14/07/11

      Umm, white civilization for starters???

    • Retired Soldier says:

      08:25am | 14/07/11

      Sony B Goode says: You are not seeing things in regard to the flag. You will find it flying on all government buildings but even worse it is now flying on defence bases. I spent many years in the Australian Army and although there were some “Indigenous” soldiers scattered around the units, they were in no way in the majority anywhere. Why is the military of our nation forced to fly a flag that represents a group of people who, in the main, don’t work, don’t look after their kids or themselves, and constantly remind us that we don’t own the land through the flying of a flag that means nothing but a reminder that most of them detest us but love our easily gained handouts and welfare payments. The flag is a disgrace and should be ripped down from every flag pole it dares to fly on.

    • Sony B Goode says:

      04:58pm | 14/07/11

      FIonna, socialism can hardly be called civilisation. People will look back at socialism the way we look back at feudalism.

    • Sam says:

      11:54am | 06/01/12

      year I dont understand how a racist institution would lie and say they care, we all know the army is a boys club where women and non anglo saxons are not welcome, how un-Australian to have another nations flag on our southern cross, thats the biggest disgrace

    • Kim says:

      07:45am | 14/07/11

      To be fair, apply the scheme to many thousands of families in metro. and regional areas, of all sorts of cultural backgrounds, including the “anglos.” Otherwise it’s just plain racist.

    • Michael says:

      08:05am | 14/07/11

      Exactly Kim, quarantine everyone’s welfare, that’s the fairest thing that can happen. Those who want more from life are free to seek more.

    • Seanr says:

      09:17am | 14/07/11

      Agree completely Kim that it should be applied to everyone.

      However if you argue that it is racist to implement something specific to Aboriginals then it should also be racist to have specific Indigenious awards, payments, legal and health services etc etc.

      It annoys me that people seem happy for racial discrimination to occur when it can be seen as a ‘positive’ but not when like the intervention some see it as a negative.

    • Rose says:

      11:04am | 14/07/11

      Rubbish!! Mandatory income management should be scrapped and replaced with a case managed program. The entire Intervention was a political operation with no real consideration to the long term improvement of aboriginal welfare. It costs approximately $4000 per person per year to have income management and it has not proven to be successful, making it far more expensive than case management. In the nearly four years since the Intervention began most reviews have found that, apart from occasional anecdotal evidence, by and large it has failed to achieve its objectives, dramatically.
      What needs to occur is community specific programs which provide scope for people to work towards reform, similar to the Cape York model, so that the community ‘owns’ the reforms. Howard’s intervention reinforced a kick ‘em while they’re down, us against them attitude and this has been shamefully continued by the Labor government. It will probably take years to repair the damaged caused by the Intervention.

    • watty says:

      08:26am | 14/07/11

      It may have been a “half baked policy” when introduced in the N.T but no solutions had been proposed far less acted upon by the major supporters for Aboriginal independence and land rights, the Land Councils and ATSIC.

      The Land Councils receive 40% of all mineral royalty equivalent payments and ATSIC had a budget of just under $1 billion per annum and yet they did nothing to resolve the alcohol and drug problems which have been evident for decades.

      Hope you come up with solution.

      .

    • Rose says:

      03:48pm | 14/07/11

      Actually there have been many solutions which have been proposed over the years, most ignored because they didn’t suit the government of the day’s ideological persuasion. In fact the Little Children are Sacred report made nearly 100 recommendations, all but one of them ignored. John Howard just preferred to go in all guns blazing with a political solution rather than a potentially effective evidence based one.
      Don’t ever delude yourself into thinking that Aboriginal Affairs is all about improving Aboriginal welfare, some of the workers may have good intentions but the government always places political concerns above welfare concerns.

    • watty says:

      04:54pm | 14/07/11

      There was more effort and Aboriginal funding put into forming a separate Aboriginal State and guaranteeing Aborigines seats in Parliaments than tackling domestic problems.

      The Aboriginal leaders of the day accepted all the funding on offer but then told the Government to butt out of decision making.

      Many good ideas might have been floated ,the funding was there so why no action?

    • Sam says:

      12:00pm | 06/01/12

      how about the 96 recommendations contained in ‘the little children are sacred report’ that the government choose to ignore, only one recommendation was implemented, their report about the findings of the little children are sacred report didnt mention children once, are people really that dumb or just hiding behind our racist government to vent their racist veiws

    • Tim says:

      08:37am | 14/07/11

      People who want to take control of ‘their’ finances can do what everyone else has to do and get a job.
      Seriously, if even one dollar of welfare is being spent on alcohol, cigarettes or gambling then you are getting paid too much. They are luxury items.
      The government needs to extend welfare quaranting to the rest of the country for everyone on welfare.

    • Kevin says:

      11:09am | 14/07/11

      Agree.  Start with the baby bonus.

    • Rose says:

      11:25am | 14/07/11

      Does that include the billions wasted in middle class welfare or just the welfare going to people who live on the ‘wrong side of the tracks’?

    • James1 says:

      01:27pm | 14/07/11

      In defence of the middle class, Rose, it must be noted that one group you refer to contributes nothing, the other group contributes plenty.  In any case, given that the middle class earns money that it can spend how it pleases, I am sure they would have no problem with any welfare they receive going on food, clothes and other necessities.

    • Brando says:

      08:37am | 14/07/11

      Feel free to take half my salary and demand for it to be spent on priority goods like food, clothes, rent and health care.

      As long as I get to spend it all it may even be a good idea.

      I don’t know many people rich enough not to spend half their income on such things anyway. So if it makes you feel any better that non-aboriginal people in full time employment are also doing the same thing I’ll volunteer.

      Any other takers?

    • Dizzy Limit says:

      08:46am | 14/07/11

      Whilst you are right about a lot of the elders and “fiscally responsible” in the NT, Indigenous people by their nature are very generous people, when someone has something (ie money) it is not seen as “their” own money, it is the communities money, so when an elderly parent has money if they had a “fiscally irresponsible” child/grandchild/sister/brother asking for it, they give it over - no questions asked, otherwise they risk being called “up themselves” and ostricised by the community. It is the same for food, cigarettes and other material things. It wont be helping matters at all. I am a nurse and worked up there for a few years and whilst frustrating at first that a elderly man who doesnt drink or smoke who needed to buy medication gave his last $10 to his child, you quickly get used to it.

      I think the system should stay in place to protect the responsible people from having to hand over all their money to drunken relatives.

    • Fiddler says:

      09:38am | 14/07/11

      I have seen a very small amount of that in my large experience with Aboriginal communities. What you see far more is the money being “communal” by force. I regularly saw people bashed for not buying others grog/smokes when their centrelink came through. As for instilling a work ethic, I have seen time and time again males leaving school about fifteen to get a job doing some form of manual labour (farmhand/shearing etc) only to give up in a few months because they have to hand the money over for the rest of the family to drink/buy junk food and see nothing for it

    • John Smythe says:

      08:51am | 14/07/11

      Glen, nice article. I quite enjoy your contributions. I’m not sure what to recommend though, as Erick states the idea of permanent handouts is what is slowly poisoning our society, irrespective of race or locale.

    • Fiddler says:

      08:53am | 14/07/11

      What pray tell would they be wanting to spend more than fifty percent of their welfare on if not the essentials? Increasing their Faberge Egg collection?

      As for the FRC I have dealt with these type of organisations before. Usually one or two on the board are ok and the rest use their position to impose their own will on the others based along family feuding lines, targetting those they don’t like based upon their surname.

      Or, or, or…. heres a novel idea get your own damn job like the rest of us. If there isn’t any work where you live MOVE!!!! And don’t give me that “connection to the land” shit, I feel a strong connection to Bondi, I demand that I be allowed to live there for free

    • Mark says:

      09:09am | 14/07/11

      “If you’re an Aboriginal person receiving welfare payments in the NT, you live under the Emergency Response and half your welfare must be spent on the priority goods like food, clothes, rent and health care.”

      If you are living on my taxes then I should have a say on how you spend it. Simple solution, get off welfare. What you say, no jobs in the middle of nowhere. Well move.

      But I do agree that the policy should apply to everybody everywhere. Will not happen as the creatures that rule us need dole bludgers votes as well.

    • not suprised says:

      08:25pm | 15/09/11

      Your a simple chap (like most here) do a little reserch, do you understand that as Australia is thought of as a first world nation we must provide all people with services regardless of where you live,.thats why we have little heritage towns all over and cattle towns in the alps, so when the Australian Gov take control off the states and no more grazing is allowed they should just all move because the majority wont have jobs? It is againts international law to force people off their traditional lands and/or diminish their culture in any way including the removal of Aboriginal teachings (i.e language)

    • Stv027 says:

      09:55am | 14/07/11

      @Carz.  Like everyone else in Australia if there are no jobs where they are living then they should move. I recently moved up the North Coast because i had a better chance of gaining work up here.

    • Anna C says:

      10:37am | 14/07/11

      All remote camps should all be closed down immediately; they are toxic environments especially for women and children. Aboriginal people should be forced to live in towns so they have no excuses about why they can’t look for work. And don’t give me that crap about how they can’t leave their ancestral lands bullshit.  My parents left their ancestral lands in Italy and moved here more than 40 years ago to make a better life for themselves; which they did. If it is good enough for them, then it is good enough for aborigines. 

      If aborigines don’t like being dictated to about how they spend OUR money, well then get off your arse and get a job like the rest of us. Simple as that. Of course the real reason they don’t work is not that there are no jobs available; it is that they don’t have a WORK ETHIC. They have an entitlement mentality which is not doing their people any favours.

    • Liam says:

      04:05pm | 14/07/11

      Oh joy - the oracle is back.

      “My parents left their ancestral lands in Italy and moved here more than 40 years ago…If it is good enough for them, then it is good enough for aborigines.” - Wow, haven’t heard that before.

      “Of course the real reason they don’t work is not that there are no jobs available; it is that they don’t have a WORK ETHIC.” - I admit, your work ethic when looking for a new pair of shoes is tireless. Rest those little feet now, Miss Ignoramus.

      Just stick to things you know, like handbags, make-up, and shopping centres. How do you like being stereotyped, Effie?

    • Mack says:

      10:50pm | 14/07/11

      Liam, it is fine to disagree. But if you disagree with someone, focus on their words and their argument, rather than attack them.

    • Slick says:

      11:01am | 14/07/11

      You need to do more research. ALL welfare recipients in the NT now have their welfare managed. Black, White, Red, Yellow and Green, it no longer matters. Personally I think it is a wonderful idea. I mean if you are having such dire financial problems that you are receiving welfare anyway then you will only be spending your money on essentials.
      Although some people will buy the basics cards so they get cash that way a $30 basics card for $20 cash? If you just want to go shopping then it doesnt matter what you use, it is like a gift card.

    • Jane2 says:

      12:33pm | 14/07/11

      It is a wonderful idea but as someone who went through a period of unemployment but was fiscally responsible my only issue is 30% is not enough in city areas for rent in the private market let alone pay for food and clothes too.

      The other issue with the system is it sees people forced to shop at the over priced big chain supermarkets when their money would go further at the local green grocers/famers market etc.

    • centurion48 says:

      11:08am | 14/07/11

      I agree that the income management system should be extended to every person on welfare. Race, colour, sexual persuasion or religious belief have nothing to do with parental responsibility and the need to contribute to society in a meaningful way. And if that includes moving to where work is available then that is what people need to do.
      I also agree with the concept of adult children living in government provided housing paying a percentage of their welfare payment as a rent contribution.
      I would think that the necessities of life require at least 50% of welfare payments to ensure adequate food, clothing and shelter. If people are saying they can properly provide for their family using a lesser amount then I suggest the welfare payment is too high.

    • sid says:

      11:54am | 14/07/11

      Our family has a little secret that I have confirmed that we have some indigenous past in our family. I actually dont tick the box on the government forms as it immediately catergoises me into another class of citizen.  I look white and live in a white neighbourhood and am not about to spout ot all my friends about my heritage.  If the Emergency Response plan was to be expanded into the capital cities by right my children and FTB A would be examined by the govenment.  Because I havent acknwolegde my heritage its not a problem.

      But the problem is even indigenous people have the right to detroy thier lives and family as much as non indigenous people.

    • James1 says:

      12:21pm | 14/07/11

      However, I would argue that neither group - when they rely on welfare - has the right to destroy themselves on my and your taxes.  If they want to destroy themselves, they should earn money and pay for that themselves.  Welfare should do nothing more than give a person food and shelter.  Luxuries like alcohol and gambliing shouldn’t even factor in.

    • Sam says:

      12:09pm | 06/01/12

      you need to be known within your Aboriginal community, because you ignored a part of you genetic makeup, and have never been included in any knowledge sharing your a white, plain and simple, your racist comment isnt legit because your lying about your heritage, show me proof like all Aboriginals need to show

    • James1 says:

      12:11pm | 14/07/11

      “In particular, how do people exit the Government’s income management program and take control of their finances?”

      The first step would be finding a job and not relying on welfare.  Every single person on welfare in this country should be subject to welfare quarantining.  We should not get rid of this system - we should expand it to include all welfare-dependant people.  And we should make it so that the only way you get to decide what to do with all of your money is to earn it yourself.

    • Anjuli says:

      12:54pm | 14/07/11

      My Canadian friend told me that indigenous Canadians have food stamps, which they of course spend at the supermarket fill up the trolley go outside, where there is always some one who will offer less than the value cash for the trolley load of stuff.People will always look for ways to beat the system especially when money is given for doing nothing.

    • mikk says:

      01:41pm | 14/07/11

      The shame and humiliate card should also be extended to those on middle class welfare, pensioners, family tax benefit recipients, veterans, tax returns, politicians wages and government grants. After all if the argument is that it is taxpayers money and they have a “right” to see it spent “properly” then it should apply to all handouts of public money.

      Personally I would starve before I would use the shame and humiliate card at my local shops. Why not just tattoo “dole bludger” or “parasite” on peoples foreheads. It is no different and makes it oh so much easier for all you bigots to villify, punish and marginalise those you hate and fear.

      I really am becoming disgusted in the mean, spiteful bastards that Aussies have become led by a-holes like rabbit and coward and that redheaded redneck hanson. Ably assisted by the evil of the parrot, dolt, monkeyton and slackerman.

      The Aussie trait of the “fair go” has long been replaced by the “whats in it for me” and the “they are getting more than me” selfishness and envy of the poor. Makes me want to vomit.

    • Fiddler says:

      01:56pm | 14/07/11

      Feel free to leave then. Maybe even give Philip Nitschke a call see what he can do for you

    • Ten in the Sin Bin says:

      02:17pm | 14/07/11

      Okay the Philip Nitschke line is a tad boring when it’s said over and over and over again.  It’s not remotely funny either.

    • centurion48 says:

      02:17pm | 14/07/11

      @mikk: ‘Shame and humiliate card’? Give me a couple of hundred bucks a week to spend and a S&H card and I will be happy to use it for essentials if I am being supported by the government.
      The ‘Fair Go’ relates to giving every Australian the opportunity to work to support themselves and their family wherever possible. It does not include supporting people for the whole of their adult lives on welfare when they are capable of working.
      If you think that I am wrong then tell me why. Your response should not include ‘there are no jobs where I/they live’ because people need to be prepared to go to where the work is that suits their qualifications. Don’t have qualifications? It is never too late. It might be harder but don’t blame the general public for that situation. Parents who don’t ensure their kids go to school should be held responsible and I don’t care whether they are black, white, any shade in between and on/off welfare. If parents cannot control the child then the child needs to be put into care.

    • Anna C says:

      02:19pm | 14/07/11

      Mikk, there is a big difference between letting people have a “fair go” and letting them exploit the system and taxpayer. It is well documented that the Aboriginal community is over represented in the statistics when it comes to incarceration rates, health problems including alcoholism, child abuse including sexual abuse, kids not attending school, kids malnourished, domestic violence, dysfunctional communities etc. These can all be directly attributed to the sale and abuse of alcohol in these communities.  The NT intervention and the quaranteening of welfare money is a means of addressing these issues.  Leaving dysfunctional Aboriginal communities to their own devices, as was done is the past, is no longer an option.

    • melle says:

      02:26pm | 14/07/11

      mikk, I don’t think you’d choose starvation.
      You’d have to chat to someone who actually had faced starvation -  before believing in that wild statement.

    • Sony B Goode says:

      06:04pm | 14/07/11

      mikk feel free to donate more of your income to the ATO if you think government has a solution to anything.

    • Tator says:

      09:37pm | 14/07/11

      Mikk
      You cannot claim tax returns as government benefits, after all, it is your money that the government took off of you that they were not entitled to take under the taxation laws and were forced to return it to you.

    • Sam says:

      12:45pm | 06/01/12

      or they could pay for all the damage they contribute to by being racist bigots, any problems in Aboriginal communitys is the legacy of white convicts that took Aboriginals as sex slaves, we dont ever want to be part of your so called civilisation, it disgusting to say the least, just give aboriginals the trillions of dollars stolen from their land, (Australia is legally Aboriginal land), should check how your justifications of mistreatment are judged under international law, but you wont because ignorance is bliss, you are all still benefiting off Aboriginal dispossession today, your all guilty of illegal occupation, and you all continue to contribute to the ongoing social issues that hurts children and the next generations. if my family didnt escape the government child kidnappers we wouldnt have doctors, professors, archeologists, environmental scientists, sound engineers and anything my cousins and family put their mind to, thats the impact of stealing children, I work hard, have 4 beautiful girls, paying off a beautiful house, me and my wife (also Aboriginal) earn a decent living, I still cant avoid the ingrained racism that parents are still teaching their children (wheres the child protection), no matter what I do your people are still disgustingly immoral, so scared and fearful, what are your people doing to innocent minds. It very clear to me the problem is with aussies, nothing Aboriginals can do will counter the racist majority, Its a good sign for us that aussies are still dribbling the same petty arguments from 20 years ago, while you think you know something the reality will set in, like bolt being dumber then Aboriginals, while aussie think they know, Aboriginals do know because we cant rub our ego like aussies can and do, while we live in reality, you live in fantasy, I encourage anyone who whats to know the laws Australia are breaking to check international laws, the rest can keep on being ignorant as thats your biggest downfall and our chance to gain legal ownership of our land again. ha ha we just got 20% of my state back, keep your head in the sand and keep being lied to by the murdoch media. I do wonder, what have these people done or what has happened to them to be so scared? whites get their jobs because of who they know not what they know, how many inbreeds that barely function have jobs?

    • mikk says:

      05:02pm | 14/07/11

      @centurion48   Since your so open to having a S&H card can we take it that you are a feckless, wasteful individual who cant control your children? After all that is your argument. You didnt address mine of extending it to ALL government payments.  As for those who you say are spending a lifetime on welfare or cant control their children. Punish them not everyone else. 

      The imposition of paternalism by the S&H card is demeaning and degrading as is forcing people against their will to move away from family and friends and community ties.

 

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