Will we ever get a viable “national broadband network” or NBN? Well, that depends on how Senator Stephen Conroy, the Federal Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy, plays the game.

Cartoon: Nicholson.

At stake are tens of billions of taxpayers’ money.

In fact, the upwards of 43 billion dollars estimated to be needed to build the NBN is simply mind boggling. Of that figure, upwards of 26 billion dollars is “government investment” or, more precisely, taxpayers’ money.

Now with the size of the numbers involved it’s clear that the Federal Government is taking an enormous risk in pressing ahead with the NBN. If Senator Conroy fails he will have blown tens of billions of dollars for little or no financial return to taxpayers. That makes the home insulation fiasco look like a frolic in the park compared to the potentially never ending struggle to recoup the taxpayer’s investment in the NBN.

So will the NBN be built? Yes, so long as Labor and Senator Conroy remain in government they will stop at nothing to build it. They have invested far too much political capital to ever let it go. Big talk is a hallmark of this Federal Government. Fuelwatch, GroceryChoice, home insulation were all big promises which turned into big failures. Will the NBN “promise” be different? Let’s hope so.

Now there is nothing wrong with being visionary. The Harbour Bridge and Snowy Mountains scheme were visionary. They added to the productive capacity of the nation and there were no real viable alternatives at the time. Sydney urgently needed a harbour crossing and the eastern states needed electricity to prosper. Importantly, the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Snowy scheme were great projects for their time.

Is the NBN visionary? Well, that depends on whether it delivers a viable high speed communications network at the right price and financial return. Anything can be built so long as there is a bottomless pit of money. We can land a person on the moon because of the gigantic investment that the US made during the space race. Sadly, we don’t have a bottomless pit of taxpayer’s dollars. The Federal Government has already boosted our nation’s debt levels to worrying levels.

The NBN will be another call on taxpayers’ money and one that will take years to repay. How quickly it’s repaid will very much depend on firstly, how quickly and cost effectively the NBN can be built, and more critically, on the all important “take up” rate for the NBN. It’s one thing to build something, but it’s another thing entirely to be able to convince enough people to use it.

Take, for example, the sorry saga of Sydney cross city tunnel, as well as the Lane Cove tunnel. Huge sums of money were invested in the tunnels, but both went under because they were not financially viable given that not enough motorists were paying to use the tunnels. In other words, there was insufficient “take up” of the tunnels by motorists.

Now that’s precisely the challenge for the NBN. Yes, it may be built, but there may be an insufficient number of people taking up the high speed broadband and other services to be provided through the NBN.

To understand the financial challenges facing the NBN, it is important to understand that the NBN proposes to connect up to 93% of Australian premises to a fibre optic cable network. That requires running the fibre optic cable the length and breadth of Australia. That means digging trenches, stringing cables across telegraph poles and then running the cable into individual premises. Leaving to one side the considerable physical challenges involved, all that effort requires a lot of time and money.

Importantly, all the money needs to be repaid sometime. Unless enough people “take up” the services offered by NBN, it’s clear that the NBN will not be financially viable. The financial failures of Sydney’s cross city and Lane Cove tunnels amply demonstrate what happens when glowing estimates of potential usage fall well short in practice.

Interestingly, we are again seeing glowing estimates of potential take up rates for the NBN. What’s the problem with any estimate? Quite simply, they are only estimates based on particular assumptions. Of course, if the assumptions are wrong, so will be the estimates and, dangerously for taxpayers, the NBN would then be a financial failure.

Again, the experience with Sydney’s two road tunnels is eye opening. In both instances it was “assumed” that a certain number of motorists would use the tunnels. So long as the number of “assumed” motorists ended up paying the toll, the tunnels would be viable. But, if those “assumed” motorists did not materialise then the tunnels would be in financial trouble. In practice, assumptions are dangerous and when the assumptions are wrong, as in the case of the tunnels, there are financial losers.

It should also be remembered that the usage rates will in practice depend on the level of competition in the market place. With the two Sydney tunnels there were alternatives. Those alternatives remained despite the NSW State Government narrowing roads and putting other obstacles in the way of motorists trying to use the alternatives.

Significantly, there will, in the absence of a deal with Telstra, be alternatives to NBN. Simply put, Telstra and a new generation of wireless broadband are those alternatives. That explains why the Federal Government has tried so hard to get Telstra to sell its existing network to NBN Co, the company building the NBN.

By doing a deal with Telstra, the Federal Government would be removing a competitor to the NBN. If Senator Conroy fails to take out Telstra, then his NBN will look financially shaky. Why? Simply because Telstra could aggressively price it broadband and other services so as to try to take away a significant number of potential subscribers to the NBN. That would leave the NBN with a very expensive fibre optic cable network that is just too costly for the average consumer to use.

As for the “speed” of the NBN broadband, the average consumer may be very happy with the already fast speeds available with existing technologies. Not everyone wants or needs the superfast speed that Senator Conroy is promising under the NBN. Similarly, wireless broadband speeds are also increasing and can offer the convenience and flexibility of fast internet services anywhere in the wireless coverage area.

So, Senator Conroy, let’s hope your vision doesn’t leave taxpayers with a white elephant that may never truly be financially viable.

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    • thomasr says:

      08:22pm | 11/05/10

      1/ Wireless is NOT an alternative. It will always be slower than best of breed cable/fibre and more expensive. It’s also not for commercial use.
      2/ Cross Harbour tunnesla nd private roads can be avoided and not have an effect on the economy of the nation. No broadband=no future.
      3/ “the average consumer may be very happy with the already fast speeds available with existing…”. Only if they are ignorant about what is on offer. You could be describing the ADSL vs Dial up “argument” 10 years ago.
      4/ We cannot imagine what the new network will be doing in 10 years nor speeds we will need. How do I know this? 10 years ago Google was a start up, YouTube + Facebook non existent, HD video was for Spielberg only. Etc.
      5/ Whatever the proposed speed of the network today, we can be assured it will be much faster by rollout and beyond.

    • Lee from WA says:

      12:21am | 12/05/10

      Yeah but how many are willing to pay $200ish/month to get it all?

    • Steve says:

      05:45am | 12/05/10

      I pay less than $40 per month for optic fibre broadband. Look it up yourself on the TransAct website. Don’t know where you got the figure of $200, maybe from the Liberal Party propaganda handout.

    • Tom says:

      08:14am | 12/05/10

      Steve, The fibre optic that you subscribe to is nowhere near the speed being touted by Conroy. Labor propaganda, Steve?

    • Rhys says:

      11:37am | 12/05/10

      Tom, those transact plans are only artificially slow. Just like ADSL was artificially slow when it was introduced 10 years ago.
      ADSL could very easily run at over 5mbit for most people when it came out but telstra capped it to 1.5mbit (if you wanted to pay $200/month) because their upstream infrastructure wasn’t up to the task.

      Your argument is a strawman designed to distract people. The 100mbit speeds are unlikely to be needed by a single service on the last mile, you may have 20mbit used for IPTV, 30mbit used by your internet service and another 5mbit used for high quality video telecomms services. All with a little headroom for future expansion.

      The bigger issue is that we have pretty much reached the limit of what a single pair of copper can acheive without building out FTTN or using multiple pairs. Once you start doing that you may as well rip out all the copper that is rotting in the trenches and replace it with fibre.
      Fibre networks can very easily transmit in the tens of gigabits per second over those same cables that will initially be used for 100mbit, this network will be able to keep up with for the rest of our lifetimes by upgrading the hardware at either end of the cable - which is dirt cheap compared to digging the trenches for the fibre.

    • Steve says:

      01:37pm | 12/05/10

      @Tom continue to vote and blog on behalf of the Liberals. I have a great internet connection at a great price so who cares if the opposition knocks the NBN on the head. I’d sell your Telstra shares if I were you.

    • Tom says:

      02:11pm | 12/05/10

      Lee, and Rhys, hopefully we can agree that Steve neglected to mention the speed in quoting his Transact deal. My point is that using half truth examples doesn’t translate to the REAL dollars of the NBN proposals.

      Transact put in a proposal for the original roll-out proposed by Kevin 07 and was knocked back, presumably because it did not yet have the big player credentials.

      I am not sure whether Optus put in a proposal at the time? Telstra did not. I honestly believe that Telstra had problems with the viability of Kevin07’s promise to the electorate (and suggest that Optus did too).

      Lee reckons $200 per month. Michael Pascoe questions Conroy’s figures. “Deniers”? “Skeptics”? Steve reckons $40 per month. “Spin”?

      Leaving aside your impeccible technical discussion Rhys, why is it that no-one can get a straight answer when it comes to what the customer will have to fork out for this brave new world?

      Also, how much will be long suffering tax-payer be fleeced to underwrite Conroy’s insane squabbling with the players?

      How many hospitals could be built, doctors and teachers trained with the money that is disappearing down the NBN black hole?

      To a hammer, every problem is a nail. Conroy might destroy Telstra, the Mums and the Dads and claim a glorious victory for the “true believers”. However, the question is at what cost to ordinary Australians?

    • Stan o' 16% o' Hume Weir says:

      12:40am | 12/05/10

      just a couple of comments thomasr, firstly how expensive is this going to be? bet pensions and low income workers won’t be able to afford the extra speed. 2ndly, if we are not going to get it rolled out untill 2015 whats the point, your arguments about google and facebook stack up. it might be completely outdated by then. 3rdly, some countries are backing wirless b/b options after all by 2015 its speeds might be comparable although big business will still need land lines, so let them pay for their own landlines and keep our costs down.

    • TB says:

      02:51am | 12/05/10

      “To understand the financial challenges facing the NBN, it is important to understand that the NBN proposes to connect up to 93% of Australian premises to a fibre optic cable network. That requires running the fibre optic cable the length and breadth of Australia. That means digging trenches, stringing cables across telegraph poles and then running the cable into individual premises. Leaving to one side the considerable physical challenges involved, all that effort requires a lot of time and money.”

      Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG! The digging has already been done - by Telstra and its predecessors. An analysis performed by Deutsche Bank proposed that the government could acquire Telstra’s existing copper network assets and run the fibre through the existing cable ducts. The NBN could, at a later date, phase out copper services completely and sell the outdated copper for scrap. In one fell swoop you’ve made considerable savings (in rollout time and construction cost) and structurally separated Telstra. All this talk of digging new trenches and running fibre on overhead wires is absolute garbage.

    • Tom says:

      09:13am | 12/05/10

      TB, the solution is simple. Pay Testra a fair price. What a pity that dill Conroy only understands conflict and destruction. Nothing [good] will happen, just a generation of Mums and Dads cheated out of their hard earned retirement by Labor.

    • Ryan says:

      10:38am | 12/05/10

      @TB : interesting and ever so logical, I guess that Commie Pommie Conroy has no interest in actually paying Telstra for its investments, much the same as the rest of Labor has done on mining. Perhaps they will just use some communist legislation to acquire Telstra’s investments at the expense of the “mums and dads” of Australia. I am surprised there was no super tax for Telstra.

    • Rhys says:

      11:42am | 12/05/10

      Except that nobody (probably not even telstra) knows the state of those pits and ducts.

      The articles i have read have given examples where using the existing pits was useless due to them being unsuitable condition for reuse and it would have been cheaper to just dig things up from the start. Especially the last mile, since they are going to have to dig up people’s gardens for it anyway.

      The part of telstra’s network that is valuable is the backhaul fibre and the telephone exchange buildings. Those can be integrated into the new network at very little cost and without modification.

    • TB says:

      03:03am | 13/05/10

      Rhys, I’d be pretty confident that Telstra knows just how badly they’ve been neglecting their own infrastructure.

    • Country T says:

      11:34am | 12/05/10

      There are a lot of people who live in the middle of capital cities that just don’t understand what a large number of people have to put up with. Not just rural people, but also surburbia. The NBN will provide, for the first time, a connection speed over 1.5Meg to a sizeable chuck of Australians. Anything more than 5km from an exchange and it doesn’t matter if it is ADSL2 enabled or not, the speed is only ADSL1 due to attenutation on the copper wires. If you do live close enough to the exchange, you have the choice of the inflated prices of Telstra or Telstra.

      I do hope that Telstra can make a decent business deal with the NBN, but if not, NBN is money well spent.

    • Comedian says:

      12:11pm | 12/05/10

      Our world ranking isn’t that bad for internet speed, compared to so called superpower countries.
      Download speed: Australia ranked 45th, USA 30th
      Upload speed: Australia ranked 70th, UK 66th

    • Shifter says:

      04:39pm | 12/05/10

      Whilst providing the network is a good idea, it misses the mark when dealing with the real costs in Australian internet plans, namely international transit bandwidth.

      Because such a high proportion of our internet usage comes from outside the country the limited bandwidth availble to overseas locations makes for two things, slower speeds to everyday sites than our Yankee buddies, and higher costs.

    • persephone says:

      12:20pm | 12/05/10

      Professor Zumbo, one would have expected that a man in your position would have read the report into the NBN

      http://data.dbcde.gov.au/nbn/NBN-Implementation-Study-complete-report.pdf

      which investigates and answers all the issues you raise.

      1.  You say the money invested will take ‘years to return’ and then portray this as happening solely through sales of services. You are either too ignorant to hold your position, or deliberately misleading.

      The independent report into the NBN recommends an option you don’t mention - sale of the system. It finds that the government can, once the system is completed, sell it off at a profit to the taxpayer.

      Why don’t you mention this option?

      2. There are no alternatives to the NBN. Telstra is not offering anything like the speeds the NBN will offer and have made no indications that they intend to. They are using their monopoly (and given your previous writings, you think you’d have pointed this out) to force outdated, overly expensive services onto present users.

      The NBN is not being forced on anyone in this way, but it will be taken up in preference to Telstra because it offers a better service more cheaply.

      3. The report is based on what it calls ‘realistic’ take up rates. If you think it has inflated these, by all means lay out your reasoning.

      Costs for a basic service are estimated to be about $35 per month - a lot cheaper than present, for a much better service.

      Given Australians has one of the greatest take up rates for new technology of any country in the world, this should sell like hot cakes.

      4. Wireless is not competitive. It cannot offer the same speeds or reliability - and the more people who take up wireless in a particular area, the slower the speeds.

      It provides a limited, second or third best option in areas with a small population.

      This article of yours is either poorly researched or deliberately misleading.

      And given your past articles about the encouragement of competition, it’s also hypocritical.

    • TheRealDave says:

      02:49pm | 12/05/10

      Your tunnel examples are flawed.

      I can bypass a tunnel for free using public roads if i wish.

      I can elect not to take up to 100mb NBN speeds and then be at the mercy of Telstra’s extortionate pricing and stay on ADSl/ADSL2 on much slower speeds for the same or higher price as the NBN.

      Now if I had a FREE alternative to the NBN at same or similar speeds you’d have a point. We won’t - so you don’t.

      I love the NBN! It gets the Telstra whiners AND the rabid Lib fanbois gnashing their teeth and wringing their hands - its so full of WIN I might deadset explode right under my desk here!

    • centurion48 says:

      03:20pm | 12/05/10

      In a report this week, the US FCC has set a 4Mbps download target for universal US broadband. According to the new report (see link) from the Commission, forget about fibre—it costs too much. Underserved areas would be served best by DSL, some 4G wireless coverage, and satellite service for those who truly live in the boondocks. And don’t forget that the US has far higher population densities than Australia.
      The price for the US broadband plan: $US23.5 billion.
      <http://download.broadband.gov/plan/the-broadband-availability-gap-obi-technical-paper-no-1.pdf>
      Why does Australia need faster broadband at twice the cost overall and heaven only knows how much per household. It would be interesting to see how many people in the bush would sign up for the NBN if full cost recovery was the basis of charging? My bet - not one - but they should be charged the actual cost, or a good percentage of it rather than be subsidised by city folk.
      @persephone: re selling the NBN. The government estimates a return of only 6-7% after a number of years when it thinks it will sell the network. Well, it won’t happen because no Australian will buy it - we all got burnt buying Telstra - and no overseas company will buy it because it will be regulated to only return less-than-commercial rate of return.
      You also mention that the NBN is not being forced on anyone but Conroy has made it very clear he plans on having a monopoly on terrestrial broadband by legislative force if necessary.
      Wholesale access (not costs) at $35 per month are double current rates. The ACCC will not let Telstra charge retailers anywhere near the $30 that Telstra wanted to charge.
      This government has made a dud idea seem plausible but it is not commercially viable unless it can get hold of Telstra’s infrastructure and Telstra’s customers and they don’t care who gets hurt in the process.

    • Shifter says:

      04:43pm | 12/05/10

      The US has a lot more useful modern infrastructure already, hence the lower cost. We can assume the underserved areas in the US can be equivalent to the 7% who will miss out under the NBN.

    • jim says:

      01:34am | 13/05/10

      The 7% that miss out probably contributes 0.01% of the whole economy. Its better to find other alternatives to technology than to have them keep the rest of Australia behind

    • Joe says:

      04:00am | 19/05/10

      So Conroy wants to create a new monopoly to sell off that will either be too regulated for anyone to risk buying or create another Telstra style monopoly to screw us (eg will they bother upgrading to 200mb if they are the monpoly? ).

      Telstra have already increased some of their Melbourne services to 100mb and no one is signing up.

      As this is a government project, us tax payers pay regardless. If they set the prices too high and existing technologies keep customers happy (or suddenly get ramped up to their potential like the already laid tv cable) - an no one signs up, then tax payers pay anyway with all the debt.

 

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