If minorities want equality, don’t look at the Obamas

T.Chong says:

09:19am | 05/02/10

Watty old pal, we concur. As someone “of The Left” (said with due reverance) and therefore by definition “decent”, I dont give a rats about Obama, particularly since he has picked up where GW left off , in regards to US Neo Con imperialism and militarism.
He has betrayed the Palestinians, escalated unofficial wars in Yemen and Pakistan/Afghanistan, goading Iran into war via economic blockades, (most recently with petrol), pardonned war criminals of GWs administration, and Wall street is back to business as usual,(multi million dollar bonuses for execs) despite multi billion tax payer bailots, etc etc etc. US Dems are to the right of Oz LNP coalition.
The fact he is not a Republican doesnt automatically make him a darling of the Left.
As for “grovelling deputies” you seem to have forgotten Johnny “Man of Steel” Howard was booted out of office in ‘07.

Jack Thomas says:

11:09am | 05/02/10

Once little Kevin 07 was in power he was happy to salute George W Bush across the room (Howard always made me cringe because he’s like your Dad, but Rudd is like some pervy try hard uncle). Quickly forgotten by the old Howard haters that one.

Chai Latte drinking Pruis driving inner city socialists will be wetting themselves when Obama visits Kevin (in an election year funnily enough). They will forget about their sudden unbalanced hatred of Americans under Bush, just like they will forget about their Climate Change principals and not ask Obama about them.

Obama is their ideal black guy, middle class well educated and went to the right schools. Kind of like the asian or indian friends they have cultivated at Uni to make themselves feel better, but he makes up about 1% of the demographic for black people in the USA actually.

The ABC Leftards will ramp up the hypocrisy to record levels when they gush over what Michele Obama is wearing, her shoes, etc. The double standards will be bigger than Kevin Rudd’s team for the Copenhagen farce. Again, she is their version of an acceptable black person, she wears Chanel for God’s sake how can she not be.

It’s funny too, that Obama has a white mother but claims (and is claimed) as black. Why is that?

H of SA says:

12:16pm | 05/02/10

Jack, I reckon the reason Obama is considered black is that he is black…..just guessing

Perry White says:

01:39pm | 05/02/10

@Jack Thomas;
What’s with the ‘little Kevin ‘07’ schtick? Has Howard’s statue been so distorted under the effects of the Myth of the Fuehrer… I’m sorry, ‘Leader’ that he’s actually now taller than Rudd? I think you’ll discover that Rudd acknowledged Bush (knowing he wasn’t long for this world… well, actually even ‘of’ this world, but I digress) because Kevin is a trained diplomat and understands protocol. Statesmanlike, don’t you think?Perhaps the single biggest reason Kevin spent so much time out of the country in the early days was to restore our international reputation, left in tatters by your small, suburban solicitor and his ilk. I’m not aware of any ‘American hatred’ towards the end of Howard’s term under the desk in the oval office; just hatred of the Republican administration, it’s president and it’s war crimes in the middle east. Anyway, I’m sure I’ve kept you from your important filing tasks with your neo-fascist…I’m sorry, Neo-Conservative ‘think’-tank more than long enough.

fluffy says:

04:22pm | 05/02/10

t chong perry white .... thumbs up.

Perry White says:

03:31pm | 05/02/10

Astounding!... Stupedous!...Colossal!...And these are just a few of the terms that come very readily to hand to describe your breath-taking stupidity and intellectual hubris! While you may be entitled to your own opinions, you are NOT entitled to your own facts. As you are clearly in a position to dismiss more than a century of actual academic research into the factors effecting the formation of personality as ‘rubbish’, I for one eagerly await your finely-crafted, impeccably argued and intellectually rigourous altenative account. I’m particularly interested in your account of the ‘missing years’; between birth and adulthood and your elaboration on the inconsequential nature of the first 25 years of life. Please post it as soon as your hectic schedule of academic conferences and seminars allows.

Of course you are no doubt familiar with the historical notions of ‘rugged individualism’ and ‘manifest destiny’? In tandem these concepts were used as justification for the colonisation, exploitation and eventual genocide of indigenous populations all over the world… but of course this is just more inconsequential piffle… Far more importantly they offer a sort of historical quasi-intellectual underpining for the sort of the ‘pulp-fiction-pop-psychology-free-choice’ claptrap that people like you espouse as though it had crdeible explanatory power in the real world.

I hope you enjoy the rest of your stay in our galaxy,

JJJ says:

05:37pm | 05/02/10

Perry - if you don’t think it is possible or even feasible for people to move on and up past bad experiences in their history and be the best version of themselves, then I am sorry for you and those you associate with. My personal experiences tell me it is possible and that is my ‘fact’.

If you don’t think that people have a choice to be what they want to be, regardless of what they have been through, then you don’t have enough faith in human-kind and it’s genuinely sad. Perhaps you should travel more and spend less time in academia and you will meet people, who despite all odds, have made their own happiness in this world.

Have a little faith in the capability of your fellow humans, don’t hold them back with stats and academic talk.

Jack Thomas says:

09:36pm | 06/02/10

Perry is the poster boy for the middle class white guilt fraternity.

A whole industry now “needs” the aboriginals to live in shit, from the literally tens of thousands ‘living’ off black Australia via their jobs, to these bleeding heart wankers looking for a cause.

The suggestion that people take responsibility for their own lives is abbhorrent to them.

If aboriginals were able to move on and up, these white wankers would have to find new jobs, new causes, new stickers, new reasons to hate themselves.

The likes of Perry love their public services job, and glorify the ‘uber’ bureaucrat Kevin 07, for his ability to talk in their language, spin 24/7 and never actually achieve anything. Why would these muppets want to see change, they know that the longer black Australians stay ‘down’ the more they have to rail about at their inner city dinner parties, in between talking about house prices and the new Prius they bought.

These muppets want excuses JJJ.

I give you Rabbit Proof Fence, the fantasy dreamed up by the likes of Perry and his ilk, with not a skerrick of truth apart from a few names.

In the most ironic of twists (though not for the rest of us, who see it as a sad truth of the sheer hypocrisy of these twats) Director Phil Noyce took the lead girl actor from her home in WA because he thought she was in danger and would be better off schooled privately in Perth. A movie about the ‘stolen generation’ myth that has a real life twist.

Thumbs up Perry. I know you just discovered the word hubris, but that’s three times you’ve used it.

JJJ says:

08:51am | 05/02/10

You are probably right (I don’t know much about American politics because I don’t care). I assume though, in light of racial issues that seem to still be a big issue in America, that having a black president was important for them. So good on them - it’s a apparent step forward.

Plus, after Bush, they could have hired a squirrel and it would have done a better job.

Captain Moonlight says:

09:38am | 05/02/10

‘Epic failure’? What would that make Dubbya then, in your estimation? Exactly what ‘previous experience’ do you think George Washington brought to the presidency? You’re certainly proof that a lack of opposable thumbs is no hinderance to operating a keyboard! Have you ever considered leading the Liberal party?

Gavin says:

12:06pm | 05/02/10

“His win was, in short, a victory for colour over common sense “, you say? Does that mean it would have been common sense to elect an old ex-army vet in his 70’s with a complete warfare “shoot first ask later” mentality after 2 terms of laughable republican administration?

Toddzilla says:

12:44pm | 05/02/10

No, I’m not suggesting that, Gavin. I’m suggesting he shouldn’t have got past pre-selections

Kelly says:

09:45am | 05/02/10

Don’t worry Bill, I am sure she thinks you’re hot.

Jack Thomas says:

11:28am | 05/02/10

On the contrary Perry, I would argue that all those ‘comedians’ are now back waiting tables because I can’t see any of them on TV etc anymore. Is it through their inability to find anything funny about Rudd, ior just their inability?

With the exception of Good News Week (and we all know 10 programmers are garage sale bottom feeders who will punt on anything so long as it’s cheap) there’s not one ‘comedian’ on TV or out and about, let alone one trotting out any political edged work.

Under Howard, all a Leftard had to do was say “George Bush is so dum..” and he’d be handed an award. Good News Week did that for an entire season. The ABC would throw their cheque book over the head of the Festival Directors at the ‘comedian’ while pushing over the Age journo doing a feature on them.

Under Rudd, we now have Two and a Half Men.

Perry White says:

01:59pm | 05/02/10

@Jack Thomas;
Dubbya ‘did it’ for two entire terms…Well, a lifetime, really. And your small, suburban solicitor joined his ‘coalition of the gullible’, against all the advice in the reasonable world.  Howard TRIED to ban comedy… and critique… and dissent… and alternative perspectives… and ‘sedition’... because he couldn’t countenance criticism, of any sort, from anyone, ever. He’s what happens when the kid picked last for every sporting team or social group a school attains power beyond their capacity… extreme hubris ending in just plain disaster. Compared to him NOTHING is funny… except Tony Abbott… and Barnaby Joyce… and Julie Bishop… and Chris Pyne… and Phil Ruddock… If you can’t find anything funny with a political-edge on television, try watching less (or no) commercial stations… or you could just turn up to a Liberal party branch meeting.

Jack Thomas says:

04:13pm | 05/02/10

Perry, that is Gold.

You just made my weekend, except for the fact that my taxes probably paid for you to type that. You hanging on to the war crimes stuff makes it better.

Gold.

Knowing there are people like you, rehashing and dribbling that rubbish that you do, and obviously passionately believing it, makes me laugh endlessly.

Perry White says:

06:00pm | 05/02/10

@JJJ;
OK, you’ve asked for it… How old were you, when both your parents died? I was 20 months old when my father died and two years and nine days old when my mother died. Do you still want to pursue your ‘move on and up past bad experiences in their history’ tack? Cut ‘n’ paste from my post where I indicate that my position is that transcendence of circumstances isn’t possible… and an example of ‘holding people back with stats and academic talk’ would be nice, too. Do you have any idea what ‘vacuous’ means? Could you try to be a less vacuous verson of you?

Perry White says:

07:35pm | 05/02/10

@Jack Thomas;
I think the laughing ‘endlessly’ is probably more attributable to you being a congenital idiot. That’s why you’re a neo-fascist… I’m SO sorry, Neo-Conservative, and why people give you those strange looks on public transport. Clinging on so dearly to your shattered dreams, despite the overwhelming evidence… so, so sad. Do you know what a ‘Trummelfrau’ is, Jack? That’s what you are… but probably a little more feminine, if Chris Pyne is anything to go by…

Perry White says:

07:51pm | 05/02/10

@JJJ;
OK, you’ve asked for it… How old were you, when both your parents died? I was 20 months when my father died and 2 years, 9 days when my mother died. Do you still want to pursue your ‘move on and up past bad experiences in their history’ tack, or are things moving a bit too quickly for your smarmy, lower north shore sensibilities now? I’d like you to cut ‘n’ paste the sections of my post(s) where I say, or suggest, or even hint that my position is in any way ‘anti-transcendence’. I’m also extremely eager for you to prove your claim that I ‘hold them (humans, sic) back with stats and academic talk.’ I hope this isn’t too ‘intellectual’ for you; but do you know what the word ‘vacuous’ means? Have you ever considered, or would you even consider trying or even consider considering, being a much, much, much less vacuous version of you? Robert Hughes once described Pablo Picasso toward the end of his life as’ condemned to speak, with nothing to say’. You have received no such sentence; you could simply be quiet. As a friend of mine’s father was fond of saying; ‘It’s far better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt’. ‘Howard’s Australia’ actually begins to make some sense, in the light of contributions to public debate by people like you. I’m assuming, of course, that you vote, when you remember to?

T.Chong says:

09:47am | 05/02/10

Funny thing Chuckles, I often get that feeling about Right Punchers.
Maybe we are both correct (hope not), or maybe we all view articles and response thru our varios colored monocles.
Anyhoo (see the inbuilt hilarity. ) D’oh has already monopolised one source of humor. Time to dust off old copies of Matilda , DAAS KAPITAL and LNP policies for a larf, plus my favorite icon: Mrs B.Bishop dressed in footy gear trying to kick a ball in her “Bronny for PM ” campaign. Now that was funny.

formersnag says:

10:10am | 05/02/10

As the old joke goes, How do you know when you are in a loony, left, radical, extremist, feman-nazi book shop? there is no humour section, AT ALL!

bec says:

12:03pm | 06/02/10

It’s not an old joke, formersnag, it’s just a crummy one. That many qualifiers for such a crap punchline? Talk about a let-down.

Jamers Hunter says:

11:38am | 05/02/10

Seem like Carrrie you just have to do a third comedy piece. That way the unright right get a chance to be third time lucky ?

A of WA says:

11:55am | 05/02/10

Smug and sanctimonious, hypocritical to the extreme, serious and abusive when it suits you, then pointing to a lack of humour or the abuse of your opponents later.

All the calling cards of the Leftard.

Rudd ‘writes’ a children’s book about his cat and it’s reported as another giant step in Ruddy’s “Education revolution” (whatever did happen to that anyway?).

Waddya mean George Bush Snr did it first with a book about his dog?

Waddya mean “Yes we can” is lifted directly from Bob the Builder?

Suggest you actually read the content of the posts with both eyes open H. Joke’s on you.

There are a few comments here that will make you very edgy when you turn out to see Obama mate. Me, I laugh everytime I see him and his phoney family, almost as much as I do when my son yells “Bob the Builder” at him.

Tim says:

12:20pm | 05/02/10

Isn’t comedy supposed to be funny?

H of SA says:

12:42pm | 05/02/10

A of WA,

“Smug and sanctimonious, hypocritical to the extreme, serious and abusive when it suits you, then pointing to a lack of humour or the abuse of your opponents later. All calling cards of the Leftard”

Actually A I would suggest these are calling cards of the hack on either side of the political spectrum. Heck this comments thread itself contains examples of the right accusing the left of lack of humour, and not much could be more smug than using the label “Leftard” (not so much offensive because of it being critical of the left, but because of the reference to a disability).

FYI A of WA, I have changed which party I voted for at every state and federal election I have participated in so far - but I find it amusing in the extreme that I get the ad hominem of being a leftie lover when I point out the foibles of style of right punchers (note not right voters, punchers, my Dad is a right voter and I admire his style of argument and his intelligence even when I disagree with him).

But hey, point of that some particular right punchers have missed the point, almost unbelievably twice and (though there is absolutely no evidence of this in my post) - I must be an Obama lover.

This despite the fact that if I were a U.S. Citizen I would probably have to vote against Obama on the grounds that I’m pro-life.

I do enjoy the distinction of being regularly responded to with the ad-hominem AND the straw man though. Its almost comforting when people argue against things you never said…..

Carrie Miller says:

06:16am | 06/02/10

@H of SA

After reading these comments I was beginning to lose the will to live, and then I find that somebody gets me. As Sally Field once blubbered “You like me, you really, really like me”. Thank you.

Tim says:

12:56pm | 05/02/10

Wow, all white people used to be black?
I don’t remember being a black person in Africa 60 000 years ago but if Charles Darwin’s great grandson says it, hey who am I to argue?
Does this mean I have to like rap music now?

Robert Smissen says:

03:15pm | 05/02/10

Realist 10:00am. FYI Charles Darwin only had a “THEORY” That is why it is called “The Theory of Evolution” which has more holes in it than “Global Warming” or “The Sky is Falling”

Chase Stevens says:

06:16pm | 05/02/10

Robert Smissen you clearly have no idea what a scientific theory is.

Brian says:

08:19pm | 05/02/10

Robert - remember that the Theory of Gravity is only a theory too, as are the theories behind atomic fission and fusion. A theory, in the scientific sense, is something which fits all known facts, but generally cannot be proven as you cannot examine every single possible instance to prove it wrong. There are a great many holes in most theories, due to the limitations of available data - for example the theory that the world was flat was reasonable… until more data became available.

Find one instance where the Theory of Evolution (as it currently stands) is categorically proven incorrect, and I’m sure there are scientific groups willing to pay for it.

H of SA says:

11:23am | 05/02/10

Get the popcorn out T. Chong, this should be an interesting display of people taking other people too seriously

Perry White says:

02:01pm | 05/02/10

Bravo Brian, bravo! Did you write that all by yourself? Good on you, champ.

Brian says:

05:25pm | 05/02/10

Perry - back to centrelink, Uncle Kevin has your cheque ready.

Before you go though, I will have fries with that mate thanks.

Perry White says:

09:31pm | 05/02/10

Oooh! How exciting! I see you’ve been collaborating with Jack… what a daily double. Do Centrelink hand out cheques? How long has that been going on? I think back in the day when Menzies put the social security safety net under the middle class, the DSS probably still handed out cheques… you remember back when you, or your parents, stopped thinking? Am I to assume that you think people who recieve ‘benefits’ or work in menial jobs are ‘beneath’ you? But if you let them know that won’t they stop aspiring to be like you?...  faceless, colourless, odourless, tasteless, bland, bleak, dissmal little paper-shuffling petit-bourgeois non-entities, mortgaged to the hilt, buying ‘aspiration’ on personal credit… wait a minute; didn’t something like that happen at the last federal election? Are you sure you need those fries, garbage-guts?

Perry White says:

09:55pm | 05/02/10

That’s my very clever little boy, Brian! Good on you. You little champion. You’re an inspiration to us all… in many, very special ways, you are the wind beneath our wings…

Brian says:

11:28am | 06/02/10

Centrelink stopped handing out cheques? I guess I didn’t know because I dont go down there. Luckily Perry is there front and centre every week so he can tell me otherwise.

H of SA says:

12:46pm | 05/02/10

I smell an achy breaky heart/can’t touch this mashup!

Carrie Miller says:

12:59pm | 05/02/10

Good call, Hammer Time. Ok, you win.

H of SA says:

01:07pm | 05/02/10

though it also poses a new question, if MC Hammer is the black Billy Ray, who then is the black Vanilla Ice? Or have I got that wrong, and is Vanilla Ice really the white someone…...

C&C Music Factory Presents says:

02:07pm | 05/02/10

Vanilla Ice is the white Ice T IMHO. Marky Mark however was his own badass self (not that that self was very bad, though I do believe there was plenty of ass…).

bec says:

12:05pm | 06/02/10

Lies, C&C. Ice T is a million times better than Vanilla Ice. He is also currently employed, at last check.

Perry White says:

02:47pm | 05/02/10

Well, Andrew,
if your post is any indication, you should be (or had better get) accustomed to people talking to you ‘like a simpleton’. You really don’t acknowledge that extremely compromised economic condition (like the GFC) have an impact on the options available to governments, regardless of their political persuasion, do you? Don’t forget it was the policies and practices that were allowed to flourish in certain critical sectors of a largely unregulated, free-market ecomomy that actually CAUSED the GFC and that neither the american Democrat or australian Labor party can realistically be held accountable for the consequences. BTW; if you can’t understand what Kevin Rudd, a trained diplomat, is saying in public, perhaps the fault lies with you. In any event, you should probably read more… and I mean books… made from paper… with pages you can turn… perhaps you could start with books with colourful dustjackets in the ‘history’ section of a bookstore…

Robert King says:

03:27am | 09/02/10

Couldn’t agree more, Helen. Do you heard the term ‘rightwing intellectual’ bandide about much? Could be some connection…