The man most likely to lead the NSW Labor Opposition is the man least equipped to bring the party together after the richly-deserved caning it endured on Saturday.

One of the few congratulatory handshakes Labor enjoyed on Saturday. Photo: Tim Hunter

Former sparky John Robertson is a likeable knockabout who comes across as the embodiment of old-style Labor values. The fact that he is a decent person does not alter the fact that he’s been pivotal in some of the most politically indecent acts the state of News South Wales has ever seen, starting with the unprecedented dumping of a party leader, shortly after he’d been returned by the voters in a gutsy and unlikely election victory.

Whatever old-style Labor values he claims to represent were rendered transparent by this act of bastardry and the subsequent chaos it unleashed. 

The dumping of Morris Iemma and the chaotic shift to Nathan Rees and then Kristina Keneally epitomised the shambles the NSW Labor Government had become. It fuelled the 17 per cent swing the Liberals received on Saturday, the greatest political shift of the past 60 years.

As the former head of the NSW union movement, and a chief architect of Iemma’s demise after the former premier attempted to privatise the power industry, it seems bizarre that a person such as John Robertson who was so completely intertwined in Labor’s shockingly unpopular factional manoeuvrings will now swan into the party’s leadership, comically promising to be an agent of change.

The number of party wise-heads who are on the record against the idea of John Robertson’s leadership is vast.

Morris Iemma has directly ascribed the collapse in Labor’s blue-collar base to the tactics used by Robertson and others in the party machine. 

Former Carr Government Minister Rodney Cavalier has predicted that if Robertson gets the leadership Labor risks being out of office for 20 years.

After Iemma was rolled, Paul Keating wrote John Robertson a letter saying: “If the Labor Party’s stocks ever get so low as to require your services in its parliamentary leadership, it will itself have no future.”

Former State treasurer and privatisation advocate Michael Costa said on Sunday that Robertson “has neither the political intellect nor the political courage to be a credible alternate premier.”

Writing in the same newspaper, former premier Bob Carr yesterday revisited the 2008 privatisation stoush at ALP state conference and Robertson’s role therein:

In a display of wilfulness and obstinacy, the opponents of electricity privatisation staged a public brawl. It presented a hideous visage to the electorate…On this occasion, the party tore up the script that had given Labor these years of ascendancy and ritually humiliated Iemma and then replaced him, the first time in NSW Labor history a premier had been executed. Contemplating this turbulence, the electorate started deserting the party.

If John Robertson was a book, you’d leave it on the shelf with these sorts of recommendations.

It’s quite a roll call, and it’s too substantial and sophisticated to be written off as sour grapes on the part of privatisation advocates. Yet despite the result on Saturday, the shattered remnants of the parliamentary party looks set to fall in behind the one person in Caucus most closely associated with the conduct which brought them to this dark place.

Of the few remaining parliamentary members of this obscure political outfit known as the NSW Labor Party, more than half are women. On current forecasts, two of them are women who appear to have registered remarkable victories. The only glimmer of light from this mess for the ALP was the performance of Education Minister Verity Firth in Balmain and Deputy Premier Carmel Tebbutt in Marrickville.

Firth has handled herself with bravery and dignity since her husband, political chief of staff Matthew Chesher, was arrested earlier this year buying an ecstasy tablet. Although clearly no fault of her own, that episode provided a low-rent footnote to the scandals which had beset the NSW ALP this past term. Under siege in her inner-west seat from the Greens candidate, popular Leichhardt Mayor Jamie Parker, Firth considered walking away from politics earlier this year. She fought on, and appears to have won.

Firth is not regarded as a leadership contender but Carmel Tebbutt is, having resisted several past attempts to cajole her into the top job. Her reasons for not running are the same now as they have ever been – quality of life and family. She’s married to federal minister Anthony Albanese and they have a young son, and the demands of both parents being in highly demanding public jobs is obviously significant.

It is a tremendous pity that Tebbutt cannot be convinced to enter the fray. She is about the only person in this comical Caucus who transcended all the muck and self-interest and half-wittery which passed for government over the past four years.

And this is the problem which bedevils NSW Labor. There are so few people in the Caucus who could break with the past, and those who are there don’t want the job or wouldn’t get the job anyway.

If Barry O’Farrell was the Stephen Bradbury of politics, skating into power when all around him had fallen, I don’t know what that makes John Robertson. He is certainly O’Farrell’s preferred candidate for the Labor leadership. Not just because so many people in the ALP regard him as a disgrace for destroying a democratically-elected premier.

He’s also the man who, in opposing a power sale which could have injected many billions of dollars into the state’s infrastructure, played a decisive role as a cloth-capped union hack in damaging the quality of life for everyone in NSW who uses a road, a school or hospital.

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    • Erick says:

      04:56am | 29/03/11

      Robertson sounds like the perfect choice. I can only hope the Labor elders are right, and he is chosen.

    • Rosie says:

      07:39am | 29/03/11

      Erick

      Morris Iemma said of John Robertson if chosen; “the wrecker appointed to manage the wreckage.

      I think Carmel Tebbutt should be persuaded, another female to replace Kristina and wife of Federal MP Anthony Albanese. It seems that Labor will come up with any excuse but the right one to gain and remain in power. Ha! Ha! finally it has caught up with them.

      Talk about “Dire Straits” only Labor!

    • C1 says:

      07:53am | 29/03/11

      I like you Erick. I really like you.

      You know how to make someone laugh.

      The only problem is that he will get in.

    • Tom says:

      08:01am | 29/03/11

      On the other hand, who cares what these grotesque self-serving liars do with themselves?

    • Michael says:

      10:09am | 29/03/11

      http://media.crikey.com.au/Media/images/081125-keating-4e715294-191b-4d4d-8f84-b2a3c3f9c241.jpg

      The labor leaders certainly HAVE spoken:

      In the words of Paul Keating: “If the labor party’s stocks ever sinnk so low as to require your services in its parliamentary leadership, it will itself, have no future. Not a skerick of principle or restraint have you shown.”

      “It may be a novel concept to you, let me say that the concientious business of governance can never be founded in a soul so blackened by opportunism.”

      “I am ashamed to share membership in the same party as you.”

      I think this needs no further comment.

    • Erick says:

      12:13pm | 29/03/11

      My comment should be taken in the light of the fact that I stopped supporting the ALP in 1996. smile

    • MattP says:

      09:21am | 30/03/11

      I agree, Erick. I hope he is chosen too, that way we can insure the mutated hybrid masquerading as the Labor Party is given the final stake through the heart that it rightly deserves.

    • John C says:

      05:04am | 29/03/11

      Sounds just like the cronies of Hitler fighting over the succession while the Russians were just outside the bunker.

    • Ironside says:

      06:59am | 29/03/11

      Booya, Godwins law in the second post of the day for 2 days running, now if we can just get that habitual first poster Erik to call someone hitler or compare something to the Nazi party we should be set,
      Come on Erik. Take one for the team!

      As for NSW labour Putting Robertson in the top chair is actually a really smart move. Labour are no chance of winning the next election (short of the coalition doing something monumentally stupid) and as opposition leaders rarely survive a lost election it means that Robertson is actually a sacrificial lamb, he will take the bullet for the party at the next election and since by that stage Anthony Albernese is likely to be out of Government, and into opposition or out of a job that will clear the way for Tebutt to take the top job and fight the good fight from then on.

    • Tom says:

      08:06am | 29/03/11

      Yeah John C, enough of the Nazis. What about son of Gaddafi?

      @Ironside, not a bad call, like poor old Brendan Nelson taking the sh1t for the Libs when Kevin07 came in?

    • Ironside says:

      10:51am | 29/03/11

      Tom, That is exactly what happened to Nelson, there is no way he was ever going to get the top job,  personally i expected him to hold on longer and then for turnbull to take over after the last election, as it turned out turnbull came in too early and had to fall on his sword as well which is a shame. He probably wont get another crack unless Abbott loses the next election.
      That being said, as much as i like Turnbull, his stance on the NBN is rubbish (its a national infrastructure project it should be done by government not business) and his stance on climate change is also wrong. (increasing costs on families is punative, it is better to incentivise business than to tax, to achieve the same end, better still to do nothing until china, india and the US make some solid progress otherwise we are just pissing in the wind)

    • Erick says:

      11:28am | 29/03/11

      Ironside, I’ll see if I can get a gratuitous but on-topic reference to the Nazis in tomorrow. smile

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      12:29pm | 29/03/11

      @Erik- There’s going to be an article about the Liberal Party tomorrow??

    • Against the Man says:

      06:00am | 29/03/11

      Another great ALP leader for our times. HaHa maybe TChong and John A Whatever should apply for the job, they can’t do any worse .....or can they? smile

    • John A Neve says:

      07:45am | 29/03/11

      AtM,

      You are laughing again, is it a nervous laugh or a type of twitch?
      As to the rest of your post, just more of the same. What a waste of education.

    • Tom says:

      08:58am | 29/03/11

      John A, what caustic wit. Perhaps you should bypass politics and join the Chaser team at the ABC?

    • John A Neve says:

      09:48am | 29/03/11

      Tom,

      I thank you, if I am successful will you be my dummy?

    • dovif says:

      11:01am | 29/03/11

      John A Neve

      Why would you need two dummies for 1 sketch, you should be sufficient

    • Flexo says:

      12:17pm | 29/03/11

      John, ATM makes you like a fool everytime. I can’t believe how childish your replies are. You really represent the the reason the ALP is a lost cause.

    • John A Neve says:

      12:33pm | 29/03/11

      Dovif,

      You are correct, I have got you, why would I need another?

    • John A Neve says:

      12:36pm | 29/03/11

      Flexo,

      Just how slow can you be?
      How many times do you have to be told that unlike you, I don’t take sides.
      As to AtM, you are not related are you?

    • hot tub political machine says:

      01:00pm | 29/03/11

      John A Neve, despite the fact research shows most Australians are now like you and I (vote on policy not party), this is still a foreign concept on the punch. It takes a while for new ideas to seep in and all that…

    • Against the Man says:

      01:39pm | 29/03/11

      @ hot tub puff machine - so you and johnny boy are Coalition supporters? Cause the ALP have zero policies and the Green policies are as loony as bugs bunny. Well done guys!

      ps: @ John a Nervous - I’m not related to Flexo but are you related to Spiro Agnew (you guys have a lot in common)  smile

    • John A Neve says:

      02:02pm | 29/03/11

      AtM,

      Unlike you I have never met Spiro and have only heard stories. But I can see you obviously know him well. Fun was it?

    • hot tub political machine says:

      02:30pm | 29/03/11

      Am I liberal supporter? Hmmm, never been a supporter of any party but have been a sometime/onetime voter of a few. Which one has my vote (long way out from any election at the moment) depends on if we are talking federal or South Australia.

    • Super D says:

      06:39am | 29/03/11

      I disagree with the notion that Carmel Tebbutt would be a good choice.  I have only had one experience of her when I attended a graduation ceremony at Sydney University.  The overwhelming majority of the graduates had just completed a Masters of Commerce.  Of those at least 75% would have been international students.  Ms Tebbutt addressed her remarks to the 15 people who’d just been awarded a novice certificate in public administration.  She completely ignored the commerce graduates and did not even acknowledge the foreign students - both groups being of far greater significance the the state than the public service careerists she feigned upon.  I was appalled and it was only my own good upbringing that stopped me making a public mockery of her completely inappropriate politicking.

    • CD says:

      08:38am | 29/03/11

      That’s it? That’s all you’ve got? No actual facts just a personal opinion?

      Your great upbringing allowed you to sit by while others were ignored and maltreated. Great upbringing-not. Too hard to stick up for your principles then?

      I don’t know Tebbutt but if you’re going to try and destroy a person’s character try not shredding yours in the process.

      Facts are more worthy than mere opinion when you want to destroy someone on a public forum.Pretty gutless I believe.

    • AdamC says:

      09:16am | 29/03/11

      Er, CD, he was recounting an event that occurred. How is that not a ‘fact’ or merely a ‘personal opinion’? 

      Seriously, sometimes you just have to despair!

    • Zaf says:

      09:50am | 29/03/11

      It’s FAWNED ON!! 

      Wherez good upbringing when ya needz it?

    • Chris L says:

      10:12am | 29/03/11

      Honestly with how things have been going, I couldn’t give two pops about a politician’s personality. We’ve already seen a whole circus of them at both the state and federal level. So you can have the personality of a wooden plank, but if you can fix our roads, health services and public transport to an acceptable level, without all the political careerism and factional debauchery, then you’ve got my vote.

      Don’t know if that’s possible anytime soon though…

    • Super D says:

      10:20am | 29/03/11

      CD clearly you have some comprehension challenges so here are the facts in a numbered list:
      1. Penbo has suggested that Carmel Tebbutt was a suitable alternate premier
      2. I was at a graduation ceremony where then Deputy Premier Carmel Tebbutt was the guest
      3. The graduating class was made up of 95% Masters of Commerce Graduates including many international students with the remainder having attained various public sector governance certificates and diplomas.
      4. Ms Tebbutts remarks were highly partisan and by her own acknowledgement were largely addressed to the 5% public sector graduates.

      In my opinion this was inappropriate, perhaps the selection of Ms Tebbutt as guest speaker was a poor one.  In any case to basically ignore the bulk of the audience was just rude.  To spend her time trying to make political points was just outrageously inappropriate.  Perhaps I should have heckled her from the audience though this would have been as inappropriate as when Bob Brown heckled George W. Bush in the federal parliament and I do try not to do hypocrisy.

      I’m not sure about your character shredding remarks.  I thought character shredding was what happened when you get photographed leaving Ken’s of Kensington, get arrested for child molestation, get caught cheating on your wife or dancing around parliament in your underwear and I don’t see where I crossed any of those lines…..

    • Super D says:

      10:24am | 29/03/11

      @Zaf - oops ya got me.  I have brought shame upon my ancestors.

      I shall endeavour to review my comments before hitting submit.  I could really use a preview button….

    • Syl says:

      03:04pm | 29/03/11

      I swear, we need to stop worrying so much about a potential leader’s personality and worry more about whether they can actually run a country/state.

      Id rather a bastard who keeps the economy going, improves health, education etc than a “nice guy” who does sweet F.A.

    • Mr Real says:

      06:52am | 29/03/11

      “the popular Jamie Parker”?  Come on Penbo, you used to live in Balmain, you know better than that! Since he has been Mayor he has alienated most interest groups, even some of the Nimby ones… The local business community despise him, and that was very much reflected in saturday’s result.

      If Verity Firth survives, she should stand. I agree, she has shown bravery and integrity. But maybe she is “too nice” for Labor’s leadership… I’m still hoping she will be Balmain’s MP, at least.

    • MarK says:

      09:58am | 29/03/11

      I prefer my opposition leaders not to be married to drug users.

      Just saying.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      11:30am | 29/03/11

      I don’t understand - apart from the union-initiated factional infighting and the historical but unnecessary practice of having the leader fall on their sword, what is actually wrong with Kenneally?

    • Erick says:

      12:09pm | 29/03/11

      Well, Tony, I don’t see anything particularly wrong with KK either (as Labor members go).

      But she was chosen as the sacrificial lamb, and so it seems she must be sacrificed.

    • John A Neve says:

      06:31pm | 29/03/11

      Mark K,
      Tell us what are you married to?
      Or won’t any one have you, based on your post one can understand that.

    • ClaireP says:

      10:18pm | 29/03/11

      John A Neve, did you really not understand what MarK was saying or are you just taking the P because it was clear to me.

    • TimB says:

      06:48am | 30/03/11

      Right the first time Claire. John didn’t understand.

      Of course like all lefty zombies he tries to covers up his lack of understanding by insulting others.

    • Ben C says:

      12:45pm | 30/03/11

      John prefers to remain ignorant of any negative news from the Labor camp. He also doesn’t read the original post.

      Hint to John: fourth paragraph after the Bob Carr quote.

    • peter says:

      06:58am | 29/03/11

      where is the critique in this of the new Premier’s role in opposing the privatisation? your last paragraph could apply to him as well.

      surely that means that once the review is over, it will be in everyone’s interest not to talk about it?

      what odds Keneally being asked to stay on? for a year or two to weather the cliched blows?

      ps they lost a good bloke in David Borger. does he come back, go federal, or be the super mayor of Parramatta?

    • Gerard says:

      05:52pm | 29/03/11

      You’re joking about Borger, right? The guy responsible for the RTA???

    • peter says:

      08:31pm | 29/03/11

      responsible for the RTA? what for the last 15 months? what bit of that worries you? he was a cracking mayor of Parramatta and has great curiosity in people and places, and some ideas about how to make things better for his constituents.

    • Ben C says:

      12:48pm | 30/03/11

      @ peter

      Great curiosity in people and places? He was minister for Western Sydney, yet it seemed his idea of Western Sydney was limited to Parramatta.

    • peter says:

      11:18pm | 30/03/11

      money in his bike plan for liverpool and penrith

      parramatta IS nominated in the Metropolitan Plan as the second CBD

      (I used to work in the Office of Western Sydney, btw. them wuz the days…)

    • Seano says:

      07:03am | 29/03/11

      I know someoneI quiet respect who’s had dealings with him on a professional basis who thinks he’s a real scumbag.

      Labor are almost certainly at least two terms away from a win in NSW so it really doesn’t matter who they choose at this stage.

    • Stiffy says:

      07:06am | 29/03/11

      If it is Daley, I hope he doesn’t do his old party trick of ‘the dance of the flaming arsesole’ at his first cabinet meeting.

    • Erick says:

      07:09am | 29/03/11

      On a tangentially related note, the ABC seems to be saying that Pauline Hanson will be elected to the Upper House.

      Fun times!

    • Flexo says:

      07:16am | 29/03/11

      Rudd, Gillard, Roxon, Garrett, Swan, Rees, Iemma, Latham, Keneally….....a conga line of misfit losers. I see a pattern and the pattern aren’t good.

    • Gladys says:

      07:20am | 29/03/11

      I think you’re right, Penbo. But look at who’s left - the boys and girls who were in the safest seats - they’re all animals of Robertson’s ilk. Until they start hiring people who believe in their party and not their own career, this problem won’t go away.

      The political animals were fine if the voters were stupid and didn’t know they could have something better. And until Queensland started to leap ahead, they didn’t know they could do better.

      The fact they didn’t get the message is fine by me. They can take all the time in the world to pull themselves together. And I hope they don’t get the real message until after the next Queensland and Federal elections.

    • Jim says:

      07:49am | 29/03/11

      Maybe they can hire some fo Paul Howes’ trained monkeys! I’m sure they’d do a better job than this thug.

    • Paul says:

      08:04am | 29/03/11

      The same power-hungry party hacks who destroyed NSW Labor (and Kevin Rudd) are still running the show, obviously.
      Despite the fact there’s nothing much left of the party, it is business as usual, reward time.
      Robertson wants and expects the big job. Same old. Same old.
      As Luke Foley wrote this week the NSW Labor party stood by for 16 years as the loyal members of 130 branches all went home, never to return. Obviously they didn’t get that message either.

    • Against the Man says:

      03:25pm | 29/03/11

      Sad that Rudd doesn’t have the balls to take them on, whats the point of being a multimillionaire if you have a legacy of being an incompetent, cry baby who falls in line like a good lil’ monkey!

    • John A Neve says:

      07:02pm | 29/03/11

      AtM,

      Tell us little buddy, do we detect a note of jealousy here?
      Not to worry, Labor’s social security system will look after you, if it’s not keeping you now?

    • kyUfbVE says:

      08:06am | 29/03/11

      UGHVEaQ

    • Gratuitous Adviser says:

      08:15am | 29/03/11

      Living in NSW there are certain members of the Australian Labor Party that have brought disrepute to the organisation through their actions or statements.  They are Mark Arbib, Eddie Obeid, John Robertson and others connected with the AWU.  The ALP knows them better than me.

      Arbib, Obeid, John Robertson and the various AWU apparatchiks (Shorten, Howes etc) all have a “history” that will ensure that Labor will never win another election as long as these people are involved.  Shorten as a replacement for Gillard, someone is kidding?

      Whether justified or not, forget the spin; any time you hear or see these people, you get an urge to throw a sock at the TV or change stations.

      If the fix is in and Robertson ends up being the Leader of the Opposition in the NSW, then so be it.  I still think he has to answer for his silence last year on the sale of the NSW Electricity assets, but be that as it may, he will never be Premier.  As Sartor said last night; the next NSW ALP Premier is not in the ALP yet, or did he say parliament.

      However, Robertson will be well remembered if he completes phase 1 of the rebuild (ie) Get rid of the people that are threatening the parties future.  Having a “slam” is common practice in a subsidiary business that has lost its way over a long period to the point that the culture of the organisation is lost.  The directors or CEO, in the case of multi-nationals, then send in a “Baddie” who will ruthlessly root out the non-believers, cynics and others so determined to be a detriment to the business.  After his/her work is done they will then install the “Goodie”.  All the remaining bad blood will go with the “Baddie”.  It is a thankless but needed role for an organisation that has lost its way.

    • James of I Forgot says:

      08:16am | 29/03/11

      You would think labor would start learning not to give jobs to the union boys, but alas hasnt happened. I am a unionist, but while the REAL unions who actually believe in protecting workers are doing their jobs, these right-wing ex-union leaders who Labor are giving jobs to do not speak for all unions and do not have the support of all unions. Its time Labor was voted out of every political office in this country to teach these lowlifes a lesson.. that just because you were founded by the trade union movement it doesnt give you the right to prop up union leaders in positions that they know nothing about… KEEP THE BASTARDS HONEST and get rid of ex-union leaders in government!

    • Jim says:

      09:06am | 29/03/11

      I like your sentiment, but that would require the Labor party being dissolved, and re-registering under a different name. There’s no way the union thugs will ever give up their grip on power. Look at all the ex-union germs now holding portfolios for the ALP - Combet, Conroy, Swan, Crean, Evans, Roxon, Burke, Ludwig, Ferguson, O’Connor, Arbib, Sherry, Shorten, and of course the Archdemon herself, Gillard. That’s more than half the cabinet and outer ministry with union ties!

    • James of I Forgot says:

      09:20am | 29/03/11

      It should be dissolved imo Jim. Labor no longer represent the working class and battlers. And these ex-unionists they have riddled throughout the party have betrayed their union comrades and should pay the price. These ex-unionists have let greed rot them to the core and workers no longer have faith in them and its damaging unions all across Australia - even the ones who are non-right wing and have no political affiliation with the Labor party.

      I loathe the Liberals, and will never vote Liberal , but in all honesty, at least they knew how to run a government and were open and honest about being bastards. Labor are nothing but incompetent traitors, riddled with former-union treacherous SCUM.

    • Sludger says:

      11:03am | 29/03/11

      @James, I too was in the union when I was working in the mines, then in the power industry. Some did good things, some bad, but I do know our shop stewards were decent blokes doing the best they could.  The problem I see is a lot of these heavyweight ‘Union” leaders who get into power have never actually worked blue collar.  They espouse the needs and virtues of the working man, while never having lived as one.  Maybe that is part of the problem.

    • AdamC says:

      08:20am | 29/03/11

      Spot on, Penbo. Despite the insincere mea culpae, NSW Labor has learnt nothing. Hopefully, their continual dancing to the tune of the backroom bastard boys will leave them squabbling over the spoils of opposition for several terms to come in the ‘premier state’.

      Even to a southern observer, Robertson was up to his neck in the factional shenanigans that saw NSW become a fief for the vested interests - unions, developers, etc - who so eagerly fixed themselves to Labor’s carapace. What a complete disgrace.

    • cityboy @ Sydney says:

      09:10am | 29/03/11

      Yes, give Robbo a go~ it’s only for a year or so…..........  right?

    • Ryan says:

      09:29am | 29/03/11

      Now in fairness guys, everyone knows that taking over as leader of the opposition right after an election loss is like throwing yourself on a grenade.
      This is nothing but a temporary post until the party settles down and starts to look at itself with less arrogance and wake up to how they treated the people.

    • Huddo says:

      09:41am | 29/03/11

      I was watching the images of misery at the ALP wake on Saturday night, and an old song I hadn’t heard in years just popped into my head and seems so appropriate.  But strangely it was a duet….

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4QBKxlfBjo

      NSW ALP
      Love on the rocks ain’t no surprise
      Pour me a drink,
      And I’ll tell you some lies
      Got nothing to lose,
      So you just sing the blues, all the time

      NSW VOTERS
      Gave you my heart, gave you my soul
      You left me alone here
      With nothing to hold
      Yesterday’s gone
      Now all I want is a smile

      NSW ALP
      First they say they want you
      How they really need you
      Suddenly you find you’re out there
      Walking in a storm

      NSW VOTERS
      When they know they have you
      Then they really have you
      Nothing you can do or say,
      You’ve got to leave, just get away
      We all know the song

      You need what you need
      You can say what you want
      Not much you can do
      When the feeling is gone
      May be blue skies above,
      But it’s cool
      When your love’s on the rocks

      NSW ALP
      Love on the rocks
      Ain’t no big surprise
      Just pour me a drink
      And I’ll tell you my lies
      Yesterday’s gone
      Now all I want is a smile…..

    • Cleo B. says:

      09:43am | 29/03/11

      I guess Michael Daley (known as MR CREEPY in this houshold) will put his hand up to be Leader of the Trainwreck.

    • Jason bryce says:

      10:04am | 29/03/11

      Cavalier was not a Carr government minister. he was a minister in the Wran / Unsworth government. His views are so out of date to be irrelevent. he is certainly not a spokesperson for reform. He benefited and profited from the factional system/

    • Michael says:

      10:22am | 29/03/11

      I don’t think tebbutt of frith are quality candidates. They are both just cogs in the party machine - and that’s a seriously broken machine. The stand out to me is Nathan Rees - a man whose only real sin was inexperience. His rejection from the broken machine should be seen as a badge of honour.

      He was the only person in that entire party who has the guts and the moral conviction to stand up and declare that labor was a corrupt and broken party. He was the only one of that entire party who understood what the labor party was SUPPOSED to be, and tried to turn it back to what it should always have been.

    • Tom says:

      03:33pm | 29/03/11

      He also was Orkopolous chief of staff who claimed he knew nothing about Milton’s behaviour. No thanks.

    • Peter says:

      10:51am | 29/03/11

      Doesn’t matter who they put in as Leader now, they will never be Premier unless they stay Leader for 8 years to a decade or more. And that is impossible for the Labor factions. Then again with a Union thug as their Leader maybe he’ll stay in the job?

    • Shirley Of Bankstown says:

      10:53am | 29/03/11

      My Reginald says that NSW now have a Wombat as Premier.

    • Jim says:

      11:21am | 29/03/11

      Well…your Regina may look like a wombat, Shirley, but I doubt it can talk raspberry

    • Linda says:

      12:02pm | 29/03/11

      I don’t really have a problem with Keneally, she was handed a poison chalice. She seemed articulate, full of energy, ambitious, intelligent, friendly, professional and a good looker, shame about the idiots around her and before her. Time for renewal so why not throw in a Union Clown as Leader.

    • Cate P says:

      12:17pm | 29/03/11

      No wonder Nossy left on a long trip overseas (ahem).  Let Robertson take one for the team now, first leaders after a massive defeat don’t usually last long.  Once him and his ilk have gone, they can start again.  Those names Arbib and Bitar keep cropping up, don’t they?

    • Simon says:

      12:40pm | 29/03/11

      everyone seems to have forgotten this guy’s 1/2 million dollar office refurbishment 3 weeks in to his tenure - pretty telling of where his motivations are placed -

    • Dann.C says:

      12:45pm | 29/03/11

      Having a union rogue such as Robbo is absolutely stoopid! This guy is such a phony with a lot of baggage.Apparently NSW Labor has no ambition at all to have robbo as leader,thats like putting bill shorten in as PM and they are both EXUNION dudes-much too many in labor. The Labor Party is no more, state or Federal.

    • david says:

      02:29pm | 29/03/11

      “A cloth capped union hack” Indeed Penbo. That is your view. I have a different one. Its a chicken and egg situation. You clearly believe in the primacy of the ALP over the Union movement. However you know this is wrong. The Union movement came first and created the ALP. Over the last 30 years the spivs have come along. Lawyers, Journos, Staffers etc. You clearly belong in this camp, and niether love or are loved by the Union camp. The facts are, the ALP membership and public was oppossed to the privatisation of Electricity in NSW. It was not for Iemma or Costa (forgot to mention those who used unions as a stepping stone) to wake up one morning and decide to go ahead and sell it anyway. What else was Robertson suppossed to do? It is funny watching the spivs quickly analysing Labor’s demise and writing about it. Of course none of it is their fault, it was those crazy divisive ‘Union Hacks’, sticking up for silly basic principles. Basically the punters have woken up to the spivs. Yes they are happy to be in opposition whilst they clean the show up and elect those with Labor values. They have worked out that two parties cuddling up to the big end of town isn’t that great for them. Rann in SA is destined to the same fate. He and his Government have long forgotten who they are supposed to represent and are also ignoring the Party structures. The Unions there have also called him on it. Labor was not tossed out on its ear because it changed Leaders a few times, it was tossed out because at least 50% of the Unions members saw no point in supporting them anymore. Even more amusing and tragic is that the people and groups they have been pandering to, didnt vote for them iether and were never going to. Surprised it was only a 17% swing.

    • Jean says:

      02:29pm | 29/03/11

      If the worst thing Robbo could do was to oppose selling off public assets (electricity production) for short-tern gain, then put him in the job. He may be one of the last of the Labor politicians to remember the story of the goose that laid the golden egg.

    • grumpy uncle pete says:

      04:11pm | 29/03/11

      As I seem to recall, Robbo wasn’t even in parliament when He, the whole union movement, and most of the thinking public was against the sell off. The then Premier Iemma, tabled the bill in Parliament, but couldn’t get it up because it was OPPOSED!! by the greens, and a certain opposition leader called O’FARRELL thats why it wasn’t sold off, it had stuff all to do with Robertson who I repeat, “Was not a Member of Parliament!!”

    • boneman says:

      04:39pm | 29/03/11

      Sludger, I reckon you and David have assessed the reasons for the ALPs demise pretty well. However along with the spivs you also need to throw in the crooks and deviants -  we all know who they are. Future candidates and leaders need to have true labour values that can only be formulated by coming off the shop floor or the coal face. I suppose we as blue collar workers are now paying the price for our own appathy in allowing the workers movement to be hijacked by these power hungry academic imposters.

    • Brian says:

      04:59pm | 29/03/11

      Is Orange the “new’ Red?????

    • Mark says:

      08:10pm | 29/03/11

      John Robertson is the worst possible choice as leader if Noreen Hay loses her seat.

    • Emily says:

      08:15pm | 29/03/11

      I hope he gets the job, and at the next election Labor get down to 2 MP, suffer another 10% swing.  Won’t that be wonderful?  Oh please Santa….

    • ClaireP says:

      10:24pm | 29/03/11

      Oh, Emily! Brilliant thinking! Love it!! John Robertson for Leader of the Disaster Party!

    • woolycrow says:

      09:37pm | 29/03/11

      Being from SA, I don’t really know the man - but Paul Keating spoke highly of him on 7:30 tonight….NOT!!!!

    • ElenaStein says:

      09:26am | 28/06/11

      Some time before, I did need to buy a good house for my firm but I didn’t earn enough money and could not order something. Thank heaven my friend adviced to try to take the business loans from creditors. So, I acted that and used to be satisfied with my term loan.

 

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