8.52pm: That’s a wrap. What a day. That was possibly one of the best episodes of the 7.30 Report ever tonight - Rudd’s line about a “garden variety making-things-up” was a classic.

Thanks to all of you who contributed during the day, particularly to the live coverage of a brutal couple of hours in Parliament. There were well over 1000 comments from readers - you can replay it below. A couple of closing comments:

  • Confirmation the email was a fake casts last Friday’s Senate hearing in a different light. Liberal Senator Eric Abetz appeared to be quoting the email when he questioned Godwin Grech. It now seems possible one or both of them knew, or suspected, it was a forgery. And we should ask again why Grech’s superior, David Martine, interfered with the questioning of Senators on certain details.
  • Wayne Swan shouldn’t be off the hook. There remains a straightforward question over whether he misled Parliament when answering questions about a mate of the Prime Minister. After the extraordinary theatre in Canberra today it’s easy to lose sight of this. I suppose the question is whether the crippling blow landed on the Opposition today will hobble it for the rest of the fight.

Looking forward to the papers in the morning.

7.08pm Evening news roundup, and Kochie in Canberra. On the Nine Network, Laurie Oakes says Malcolm Turnbull has egg on his face. Rudd joined Peter Overton outside Parliament House for a stand-up interview. He said he had “absolute confidence in the Treasurer”, adding that he had helped “many many many” car dealers. At the end he said Liberal Party elders should tell Turnbull to go.

I would call upon the senior people of the Liberal Party, the experienced hands of the Liberal Party - Mr Costello, Brendan Nelson, Senator Minchin - to tap Mr Turnbull on the shoulder and say it is time to go.

Seven’s news was headed “Turnbull in Turmoil” and had some of the great grabs from today, to wit:

Albanese: “Bring it on”.
Turnbull: “He has lied to this House.”
Hockey: “Have you got something to say Prime Minister? Have you got something to say?”
Rudd: “Be man enough to apologise and resign.”

Seven’s verdict: Swan has explaining to do, but Turnbull’s fighting hardest for his political life.

Something to look forward to tomorrow is Kochie with the utegate latest from Parliament House. As Anthony Albanese might say, bring it on.

5.11pm: Turnbull’s former adviser speaks to the Herald Sun. Excerpts:

A FORMER adviser to Malcolm Turnbull has denied involvement with the email at the centre of the Ute-gate affair…

... There is no suggestion that Mr Lindwall - a former staffer to both Peter Costello and Mr Turnbull -has engaged in any wrongdoing, but it is understood the Australian Federal Police want to speak with him to determine his involvement, if any, in the affair.

Late today Mr Lindwall told heraldsun.com.au he had nothing to do with the fake email.

“I don’t know anything about the email, I can tell you that,” he said.

Mr Lindwall admitted to knowing Mr Grech, adding: “I used to work in Treasury, anyone who worked in Treasury would know Godwin.”

Read the full story here.

5.02pm: Twittermania - Tweeters have been piling in all afternoon with comments on “utegate”. See the stream of utegate comments here.

4.57pm: Handy graphic that captures the chaos of utegate. Hat tip to news.com.au - see a bigger version here.

Utegate explained

4.28pm: Statement from the federal police from earlier this afternoon. The Australian online has a summary here.

“A preliminary forensic investigation of computers located at a premises in Calwell and at the offices of the Department of Treasury has been undertaken,” the AFP says in a statement.

“Preliminary results of those forensic examinations indicate that the email referred to at the centre of this investigation has been created by a person or persons other than the purported author of the email.

“A 42 year-old Calwell man has been interviewed by the AFP in relation to this matter and it will be alleged that the interview is consistent with preliminary forensic advice.”

Read it here.

4.21pm: New video - highlights from Parliament earlier today. Watch the sparks fly.

(2pm - 4pm: Readers join in to watch Question Time live. See the replay below.)

4.15pm: Parliament summary - We’ve been on the live blog for proceedings in the House, where Malcolm Turnbull was censured. It was an extraordinary few hours. Turnbull has called for a judicial inquiry into the OzCar affair and during Question Time the Opposition repeatedly questioned the Treasurer over the handling of John Grant in relation to OzCar.

2.27pm: Summary of developments. The Australian online reports:

OPPOSITION Treasury spokesman Joe Hockey has seized on a report that the missing email at the heart of the OzCar affair has been found to defend his leader amid a heated debate in parliament

2.22pm: Tweet of the day - @jendudley says this is like watching a lame episode of 24.

2.11pm: The opposition leadership has left the chamber. Lindsay Tanner’s speaking on the motion (remember, it’s a Coalition motion to get the Treasurer to explain himself, amended by the Government as a proposed censure of Malcolm Turnbull).

And Phil Ruddock has a guernsey. Old school.

1.36pm: MAJOR DEVELOPMENT - The Punch is now reporting that police are investigating links between the fake email and a staffer in Malcolm Turnbull’s office. You can read the story here.

1.22pm: Take a swig. In non-utegate-related news, the Coalition has decided to support the tax increase on alcopops. As you were.

1.17pm: Swan repeats his assertion that he did not know the outcome of John Grant’s application for OzCar funding. This is one of the statements which the Opposition believes the Treasurer misled Parliament with.

1.12pm: Wayne Swan is on his feet in Parliament, reading a series of emails. They’re all terribly businesslike. Do they never sign off with a “Beer on Thursday?”

12.56pm: MAJOR DEVELOPMENT: There is an email, but it’s a fake, according to ABC News. The report says:

The email at the centre of the OzCar affair has been found and is a fake, the ABC understands.

AAP adds:

An email at the centre of the OzCar affair has reportedly been found and appears to have been concocted inside the Treasury Department.

Australian Federal Police (AFP) believe the email was sent from Treasury to the home account of Treasury official Godwin Grech, the ABC reported.

What this means: If these reports are accurate and police have got a forged email from within the Treasury department, then someone in Treasury has a whole lot of explaining to do.

12.54pm: Joe Hockey’s bellowing across the chamber, yelling that the thing that’s at stake is the “integrity of the Treasurer! The integrity of the Treasurer!”

12.46pm: Rudd is back on his feet with an extension of time to finish kicking Turnbull about the head with his censure motion. He’s bringing up children overboard and the Lindsay pamphlet scandal, saying the Liberal party has form on forging the facts. They’re going to the division now. Joe Hockey’s having a go.

12.41pm: Division called - they’ll vote on the censure motion against Malcolm Turnbull.

12.35pm Rudd slinging some mud of his own , accusing Turnbull of threatening his staff. He’s recounting his version of the discussion between Turnbull and Andrew Charlton at the Mid-Winter Ball last week.

12.28pm: The PM’s case against Turnbull, as expected, rests on the email. The trouble here is that they’re playing two different games, it’s like one of them is playing Scrabble and the other’s playing Hungry Hungry Hippo. Trouble is, when that happens, nobody ends up the winner.

Let’s see what happens.

PM is absolutely hopping into News Limited now for its handling of the email story as published on Saturday.

12.25pm: Rudd hits back. It’s chaos in Parliament. The PM is now moving a censure motion against Turnbull.

12.22pm: Turnbull on Swan: “He has lied to this House.” Says the Treasurer “prostituted his responsibility”.

Postscript: The Speaker warned Turnbull to be careful.

12.20pm: Police at Godwin Grech’s house. The Australian online reports there are two unmarked cars outside Grech’s home in Canberra (and the curtains are drawn). Read the story here.

12.15pm: MAJOR DEVELOPMENT: Sky is reporting police have executed a search warrant at the home of Godwin Grech, the civil servant who has been the focus of he OzCar investigation. Turnbull’s still on his feet in the House. More details as they come to hand.

12.09pm: You can follow Parliament live here. The PM’s in the House, so to speak. Turnbull, who’s channelling Rumpole of the Bailey, has proposed a motion - which will be defeated - that calls on Swan to attend the House and make a full statement about his involvement and that of his office in the OzCar scandal. Specifically, he’s asking the Treasurer (among other details):

  • how many dealers he (Swan) personally held conversations with
  • how many dealers were the subject of messages to his home fax
  • how many dealers had their mobile numbers handed to government officials
  • for records of personal phone calls and emails.

The core of Turnbull’s attack is that Swan did not handle John Grant’s application to OzCar in the same way as other dealers.

Settle in, folks. Going to be a fun afternoon.

12.02pm: It’s on! MPs have just gathered in Parliament and there’s already a fight, shouts of “bring it on!” and Malcolm Turnbull has tabled a motion that Wayne Swan come to the House and explain himself.

11.39am: Overseas coverage. Some links to how the story is being reported beyond Australian borders.

BBC: Australian PM escalates car spat
AFP: Australia PM rejects calls to quit over sleaze
UK Independent: Rudd denies giving favours to car dealer
Xinhua: Australian PM rejects car allegation

11.05am: At least they agree on something. Christian Kerr reports at The Australian online: “Both sides of politics concede that Treasurer Wayne Swan faces the greatest pressure today.” You can read his update on Kevin Rudd’s morning media blitz here.

10.52am: A bucket for everyone. An angry reader over at news.com.au writes:

Australian politicians have hit a new low…. well done to all of you. I would prefer you focus on the Global Financial Crisis, Climate Change and N1H1 but lucky for Australia you have found some useless irrelevant topic to focus on… Well done Canberra, I feel my tax dollars are at work now and we are on the road to recovery. Lets get on with it…..

See more here.

10.43am: Ambush? AAP reports this morning suggest a possible “preemptive strike” by the Government against Malcolm Turnbull two hours before Question Time, when Parliament’s business gets underway at noon - though it’s not clear what that might entail. We’re trying to check this out.

10.36am: New summary of developments on news.com.au.

KEVIN Rudd reckons Malcolm Turnbull is in trouble.  Malcolm Turnbull says Wayne Swan should be worried.  Wayne Swan says he has nothing to hide, but he won’t show you the proof.

Read it here.

10.11am: Who cares? A quick scan of the most-read articles on major news sites shows utegate is not exactly must-read material this morning. The main utegate story on The Australian is the site’s most-read, but is quickly followed by an update on swine flu.

This story from yesterday on Rudd’s ultimatum is the most-read on smh.com.au, while over at news.com.au there are articles about Andrew Symonds playing rugby league and Miranda Kerr (warning: possibly NSFW) nudging out the utegate package for the top spot.

10.05am: Online poll at The Australian. Voters are asked “Did the PM mislead Parliament?” Current result - 67% Yes, 33% No. Cast your vote here.

9.56am: New video - a short clip from Agenda on Sky News this morning, featuring federal minister Tony Burke and Bronwyn Bishop of the Liberal Party. Watch it in the player below or click here.

9.28am New video of Rudd - live now on ninemsn, the PM’s interview on Channel 9’s Today show, from this morning. Highlights:

  • Rudd predicts “utegate” will be known as “Malcolm Turnbull’s fake email scandal” by the end of the week. (It doesn’t quite roll off the tongue the same as utegate, but anyway.)
  • He refers to Godwin Grech as “that public servant”.
  • He tries to keep the atmosphere calm by drawing comparisons to children overboard (at 2m 15sec)

9.17am: More from key Senators. Nick Xenophon says leave the investigation to the authorities, not the judgment of politicians. Bob Brown calls for a commission to investigate hundreds of pages of faxes being sent to politicians’ houses the integrity of politicians.

9.10am: Comment from Steve Fielding and Barnaby Joyce. Fielding calls for a fast police investigation. “It doesn’t need months, it doesn’t need weeks, it needs a very short sharp quick investigation by the Australian Federal Police,” he said. Amen, so to speak. Meanwhile, we got some vintage Barnaby:

Nationals Senate leader Barnaby Joyce preferred to take aim at Treasurer Wayne Swan, who the opposition also accuses of misleading parliament.

“If you do that, regardless of what the issue is, you’re gonesky, you’ve got to go,” he said.

Senator Joyce refuted suggestions Mr Turnbull’s head was on the line, saying it was the role of the opposition to test the government.

“You lay the allegation at the government’s feet and the government has to prove or disprove it.”

9.03am: Speersy says - Sky’s political editor predicts everyone will still be standing at the end of today. (He’s good with predictions - he called the heavy victory for Labor in the November 2007 election when most commentators were calling it a narrower one for Rudd.) Qualification: unless there’s significant new evidence.

Coming up later - we’ll be covering Question Time live from just before 2pm today. Do drop by, it should be a corker.

8.57am: Turnbull quote trotted out - Tony Burke on Sky was armed with this quote from Turnbull on Friday: “The Prime Minister and the Treasurer abused their offices and taxpayers resources to seek advantage for one of their mates and then lied about it to the Parliament.” Burke says you cannot make that allegation without backup.

So what do you think? Let us know in the comments.

8.52am: Federal minister Tony Burke repeats the “hundreds of pages of faxes” line on Sky News. Tsk tsk, ministers. Do they actually sit down and read them at night with a cup of cocoa?

Postscript: Any chance the Greens will raise hell about ministers receiving hundreds of pages of faxes?

8.49am: The Auditor General must be Caesar’s wife. So says Bronwyn Bishop.

8.44am: Bronwyn Bishop on Sky News says, about the Treasurer’s role in the John Grant application, that “this is not a matter of outcomes. It’s a matter of process.” (Which is word-for-word what The Australian’s editor-at-large Paul Kelly said yesterday morning on the Insiders show on ABC TV.)

8.42am: New video from Sky News

8.36am: Turnbull’s message of the morning - He was on Macquarie radio. From the wire:

“Godwin Grech was shut down by the intervention of Labor senators and his own Treasury senior official on Friday,” Mr Turnbull told Macquarie Radio on Monday.

Labor senators and fellow Treasury official David Martine had tried to stop Mr Grech answering a question about whether he had seen a document from Mr Rudd’s office regarding Mr Grant. When Mr Grech finally answered the question he was clearly emotional.

“He wanted to say more about that email but the minute he talked about it they jumped on him like a tonne of bricks and basically prevented him from giving his testimony,” Mr Turnbull said.

“He has said that he recalls receiving a short email from the prime minister’s office but before he could say anything more about it, Mr Rudd’s henchmen in the Senate stopped him from answering questions.”

8.26am: More emails we might never see. Swan said this morning that some emails about the OzCar scheme which might help the government case are “commercial in confidence”.

8.23am: Rudd on Channel 9 this morning - story on ninemsn here.

8.18am: Rudd said on AM that he told The Daily Telegraph on Friday night that the email published in the paper on Saturday did not exist. He said this raised questions about professional conduct.

8.14am: Not environmentally friendly - on messages to home faxes, Rudd says that every night he receives “hundreds of pages” of messages from people. I know we haven’t got to the paperless office quite yet, but this was the government that signed Kyoto.

8.09am: “This is the same party that gave us children overboard,” says Rudd on ABC Radio. Adds that as Turnbull demanded he resign, he has no alternative but to go himself. He also turns it on Joe Hockey for repeating the allegation that Rudd misled the Parliament. (We’ll check this.)

8.03am: Sky News Poll - Sky’s asking “Who do you believe on the OzCar scandal?”. Result: 20% Rudd, 80% Turnbull. Rudd’s on AM now.

7.55am: ABC Radio reports the federal government is saying there’s “new evidence” that John Grant didn’t get preferential treatment - apparently there are emails showing two other car dealers got handled the same way.

Meanwhile, Rudd compared the email allegations to children overboard. That should help calm things down then.

7.45am: We’ll be posting updates and links to developments in the utegate affair here today along with video and photos as they come to hand. To get you started there’s a collection of links to coverage in the newspapers here.

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    • Bob says:

      11:18am | 22/06/09

      How about calling it ute tailgate.

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    • KP says:

      11:19am | 22/06/09

      I cant help but think that Costello deciding to leave when he did, and his associated comments about leaving after 20 years in politics without being involved in any scandal had, something to do with his knowledge about what was about to go down and not wanting to be involved in it. My gut feeling is Malcolm got whiff of a rumour and without having hard evidence tried to hang it on his opponent.  If you are going to use a smoking gun Malcolm, try to make sure it is loaded first.

    • Linda M. says:

      11:22am | 22/06/09

      The ALP have form on how they treat inconvenient public servants who feel compelled to tell the truth - check out the treatment meted out to former NSW Government Minister Orkopoulos staffer Gillian Sneddon for adhering to the Parliamentary Code of Conduct she had been supplied. She acted with integrity and without self interest as required, acknowledging with as much distress as Godwin Grech,that she knew her position was at risk, but that she had to tell the truth about allegations she had received about the criminal activity of her boss and the documentary evidence she knew supported those allegations. For that , according to Parliamentary documents, she was locked out of her workplace, at the Minister’s request, even though he was known to be under criminal investigation at that time. She continued to be isolated, intimidated and her health and reputation trashed even after he was arrested, charged, convicted and jailed.

      That no-one, absolutely no-one, thinks that this scandal of the highest order is worthy of a proper inquiry is beyond belief - whatever happened to political accountability and the right of voters to demand it? What ever happened to public servants and politicians understanding the protocols set in place to ensure the protection of democracy and their responsibilities to the rest of us - if they were political servants that’s what they would be called! Good luck to Mr Grech - he will need it as he will discover the numerous ways politicians and their accolytes have of making the disloyal pay!

    • Barnacle says:

      11:24am | 22/06/09

      How can the votes of the public add anything to the veracity or otherwise of the claims being made? What a waste of time and space.

    • J B says:

      11:40am | 22/06/09

      As I recall Turnbull made the comment that Rudd and Swan should resign “if the email was found to be true” .  While Rudd may get out of jail on this one the paper trail leads to Swan.  The spin on this ute affair by the labour party reminds me of the spin and lies of the Carr government in NSW.

    • Tim says:

      11:42am | 22/06/09

      Why does Malcom Turnbull need to provide evidence of it when Godwin Grech has already testified before a senate inquiry to confirm he was approached by the PMO and also had the Treasurers office follow up on the same matter (keeping Wayne Swan in the loop).

      At the very least Swan should be held accountable for telling Parliament he knew nothing of it.  What is he hiding?

    • Anthony says:

      12:19pm | 22/06/09

      In the middle of the GFC the treasurer is recieving faxes at home about an Ipswich car dealership.Is this good use of treasury!!! Our smartest and brightest want to work for treaury, Who is putting them up to do this rubbish. No wonder I try to avoid paying tax.

    • Ray says:

      12:25pm | 22/06/09

      Grant was never entitled to any asistance, read my letter in the Oz today. Why don’t they get on with some real issues. Thank god, parliament rises this week forr 6 weeks. It will all be forgottten by August.

    • Jane says:

      12:28pm | 22/06/09

      Pretending that it hinges on this one email by Rudd, Swan and some press is not only deceitful and WRONG…..but irrelevant to the real issue. There are a plethora of OTHER damning correspondence, from Grech and Cohen, OTHER emails and faxes that show there was special ‘help’ given….contrary to what was said in parliament. The PROCESS of that ‘help’ is in question…not the end result of whether Grant actually ‘got’ anything.

      The onus is on Rudd and Swan to show they did not mis-lead Parliament by addressing this OTHER evidence… THAT is the issue. So far all evidence ( despite any PMO email) shows that they in fact HAVE mis-led…that they lied and there WAS preferential treatment given to Grant as a ‘special’ case. Both Grech and Cohen collaborate that fact….and Grech verifies ( whilst being obstructed and intimidated by ALP minders) he was ‘instructed’ to ‘look after’ Grant…whether or not an email can now be found.

      Both Rudd and Swan are desperate liars and their cover-ups and pathetic deflections to divert attention from the reality of this is insulting to all Australians.
      Any press that aids and abets them now are also insulting and complicit.

    • John says:

      12:53pm | 22/06/09

      Rudd on A.M. this morning certainly sounded like he was protesting way too much.

    • Nathan says:

      01:43pm | 22/06/09

      I am here to exclusively reveal that Michael Schumacher was heavily involved.

    • Brendan says:

      01:47pm | 22/06/09

      Who is running the country? The Prime Minister and Treasurer have spent the weekend strategising how to cover their backsides. Surely their time could have been spent a little better on ensuring our survival through the GFC or even a workable ETS.

    • David Grinblat says:

      01:53pm | 22/06/09

      All politicians are liberal in their interpretation of the truth. The “credibility gaps” are too numerous to count. I prefer to wait on the findings of the AFP and the auditor investigations before I decide who is the owner of the greater “credibility gap”.

    • Michael V says:

      01:57pm | 22/06/09

      If they have a print out of this email it will have exact Time/Minutes on it.
      All mail servers log email details of “who sent the email, and those who received it with exact date time and seconds it went through the mail server.

      If they can match the mail server logs with this email then it gives this email far more greater weight to being real then anything, as it proves it did go through their mail system and should show the IP of who sent it. While mail logs never show any details of emails it would still be very useful.

      If the federal mail system doesn’t log a few weeks worth of basic standard email activity then those in charge of email should be loosing their jobs, no question.

    • Tom says:

      02:00pm | 22/06/09

      First it was a rumour about the alleged RAAF staffer being blasted on a flight. Then, the hearsay of someone who overheard a friend of a friends brothers uncles sisters grandmother refer to something abiout a hair dryer. Now, its about a car that was purchased, and he knows this because he heard about an email, but, if this email doesn’t really exist, then, he feels the media shouldn’t waste time talking about it, but, he still insists on the resignation of Rudd, Swann, Gillard, the cleaner, the nanny and the gardener…..       
      Is it any wonder the opposition are in such a state, when they have idiots for memebers, and idiots in the media, such as P AKERMAN, endorsing their factless rantings.

    • JG says:

      02:00pm | 22/06/09

      Hungry Hungry Hippo? Is that a Hockey reference?

    • Brooksy says:

      02:05pm | 22/06/09

      This is absolutely superb, parliament is the best show on tv!!!!

    • Peter says:

      02:13pm | 22/06/09

      Didn’t the defence minister just get the chop for doing favours for his mates (in this case his brother at NIB?) Isn’t this revealing a picture of a government where spin, lies and deception are ok as long as you don’t get caught? perception is truth - the PM and treasurer cannot be trusted.

    • Islander says:

      02:18pm | 22/06/09

      KP - I tend to agree.  Once the dust has settled News Ltd. should also be held to account for their role in the beat-up

    • Marcus says:

      02:20pm | 22/06/09

      So someone in Tresury allegedly sent a fake email to one of their own colleagues…..

      Why?

    • V says:

      02:22pm | 22/06/09

      I think what has happened is - the email is a fake (confirmed), it was sent FROM the Treasury department to discredit the government (from within), to mitigate this Rudd leaked to the Libs, who pounced on it, then Rudd attacked them for the email not being real - to cover up the fact this it was his department that sent it in the first place - talk about scandal..

    • Jane says:

      02:22pm | 22/06/09

      How opportune.
      A convenient ‘fake’ ALP plant?

      Is this what ‘some’ ALP apologists ( and insiders with big mouths)on some blogs have been gloating would ‘come out’ in the next 24hrs?

      If so….how did they know it existed before being ‘found’ by AFP?

      A ‘fake’ email was desperately needed by KRuddco to completely absolve them.
      Yeah right.

    • Gus Angus says:

      02:23pm | 22/06/09

      Of course that ‘fake email’ story would emerge from the ABC. That bastian of unbiased reporting (Not)  whose totally biased support of KRudd and Labor is without question. If KRudd and Swan have nothing to worry about why the mad panic and over the top reaction. Just remember KRudd has form in the lying stakes, and his reaction would indicate that he does have something to hide!!

    • JG says:

      02:26pm | 22/06/09

      The worst crime is misleading the house ... wow, is Tony Abbott calling for his boss’s resignation?

    • Islander says:

      02:27pm | 22/06/09

      Jane - I would be a lot, lot. lot easier for the Libs to plant something in Treasury than it would for the ALP

    • Patrick says:

      02:37pm | 22/06/09

      Jane (of ballarat i presume), you are clearly dissapointed aren’t you?

      Gus Angus, I’d say the same to you. The ABC isn’t investigating this matter, The Australian federal polcie are, and they are the ones who have discovered it.

      I laugh at the both of you. ahahaha

    • Marcus says:

      02:38pm | 22/06/09

      “V”

      That doesn’t explain the case against Swan. Grech himself said he received a phonecall from the Treasurer’s office. And the emails at the heart of the Swan allegation (different from the Rudd email) are apparently genuine. AFAIK their authenticity hasn’t been disputed.

    • Simon Brodie Of North Fitzroy says:

      02:38pm | 22/06/09

      KP -I like GateGate Someones left it open and the herd is stampeding! I Think your right about Cotello. And yeah how the hell did Ruddy know that the email is a fake before it was even found?

    • iansand says:

      02:39pm | 22/06/09

      The usual sound and fury, signifying the usual.

      Whilst this may be immensely entertaining, what has it achieved (apart from diminishing the reputation of the politician species even further).

    • Islander says:

      02:41pm | 22/06/09

      An alcopops backflip during ther most significant parliamentary debates in recent years - who’s playing politics now!

    • Oz says:

      02:59pm | 22/06/09

      Haven’t the standing orders been suspended, so there’s no QT?

    • B says:

      03:17pm | 22/06/09

      Simon Brodie - presumably Rudd knew it was fake by asking Charlton whether he sent it! When Charlton said no, if he believed him, he’d know.

    • T says:

      03:44pm | 22/06/09

      Would it really be a bad thing for the ALP if Swan got the chop ?  Have the Libs really thought this through ?  Tanner gets the nod (a cagey and stronger opponent) and in four months this if forgotten and Tanner is more than holding his own against Hockey and co.

      Turnbull should slam on the brakes, not call for the Swans long neck, tell Rudd that his government needs experienced and reliable ministers like the Treasurer, and move on… Rudd would still try to get his 5 point pop with his Coco Pops with Mel and Kochie, people would get sick of hearing it, and maybe in three weeks Rudd would get the joke…

    • G says:

      03:46pm | 22/06/09

      Tom, it was hardly a rumour about what happened on the RAAF flight. It happened. And maybe the fact that you have such a long list of midemeanours means that he might just have made a few mistakes? That you can name so many is not a good thing for Swann and Co.

    • Michael Max Chappell says:

      03:56pm | 22/06/09

      There’s a dead duck in the labour government performing his swan song

    • James says:

      04:15pm | 22/06/09

      “1.17pm: Swan repeats his assertion that he did not know the outcome of John Grant’s application for OzCar funding…”

      Why is this under question?  OZCAR IS STILL BEING DEBATED IN THE SENATE, it has not yet been put into action.  Unlike Abetz, Swan doesn’t have a crystal ball to read into the future and can’t possibly know the outcome of ANY applications.  No funding has gone out AFAIK.

    • yornup says:

      04:24pm | 22/06/09

      The cynic in me can’t help but think that the Libs are beating this whole thing up to epic proportions as a way of passing the alcopops tax while the media’s attention is turned elsewhere, with the ALP complicit as a way of finally getting it passed to bolster their budget. Surely the two major parties wouldn’t conspire to do anything mutually beneficial…?

    • Paul Martin says:

      04:28pm | 22/06/09

      Absolute hypocritism on the governments part to say the Opposition is on a smear campaign when they have reached an alltime low to discredit and smear the Opposition Leader with regards to his business career before entering politics. To do such a thing raises the question what is the government hiding? Whether Grant got finance or not this about the part the Tresurer played,in misleading parliament.

    • Donald says:

      04:43pm | 22/06/09

      I wish to claim ownership of the titles “Turnbully” and “Joe Hockeypucked”

    • rufus says:

      05:04pm | 22/06/09

      Hey coalition supporters: time to admit the smear campaign backfired. The collateral damage from the fake email has damaged the party and the leader’s credibility.  I doubt many Libs drink the (now more expensive) alcopops but I reckon that there’ll be a few wishing to drown their sorrows about now.

    • Clive says:

      05:07pm | 22/06/09

      In attempting to somehow defend the opposition in parliament today this is what Joe Hockey actually stood up and said after the fake email was found by the AFP- it almost defies belief -

      “The Prime Minister said there was no email and yet evidence today from a federal police investigation suggests that an email ... does exist,”

      Is Joe Hockey actually as stupid as this statement would suggest?

    • halberstram says:

      05:15pm | 22/06/09

      Why did Senator Abetz use an unverified , an now confirmed fraudulent, email as the basis for his questioning in the Senate Committee hearing ?

      He has brought the Senate into disrepute by his actions and must resign !

    • gavin couzens says:

      05:25pm | 22/06/09

      Turnbull should stand down for misleading the australian public and defaming our P M

    • Jason Mc says:

      06:04pm | 22/06/09

      If the author of the email is someone else - that does not make it a FAKE email.

      The email still exists.

      It just means the real author of the email is at this stage is “unknown”.

      And there are more to these allegations than just this one email. The media love the email because it makes the evidence easy to follow. But there is plenty already against Swan.

    • mike w says:

      06:19pm | 22/06/09

      The blood is in the water for turnbull - come back peter

    • Alan Wirth says:

      06:34pm | 22/06/09

      I’m sorry to say it but my money is on Joe Hockey as the next Opposition leader and maybe that’s not too far away. Turnbull has gone too far with this attempt at a smear campaign. The opposition should concentrate on developing a policy beyond bringing forward tax cuts for high income earners.

    • Phil C says:

      07:01pm | 22/06/09

      Turnbull’s behaviour and questions since 4 June were not a simple fishing experdition - he had knowledge, if not possession of this fradulent email. Should it be found that Grech is involved then Swan & Rudd are the victims of an elaberate plot that could only result in benefiting the Liberals. Turnbull needs to come clean.

    • craig says:

      07:07pm | 22/06/09

      Swan has failed to produce any evidence that other car dealers received simmalar treat ment to Grant. The evidence against swan us overwhelming, he has misled parliament and should resign . Swan was trying to obtain a befit for rudd’s mate, it is that simply, a benefit you and I would not of been able to receive

    • Steve Browning says:

      07:35pm | 22/06/09

      People as one of the bloggers above has said its got stuff all to do with whether a particular email exists or not, its got to do with the amount of effort the Treasury Dept and a host of other paid public servants bent over backwards, a bit like the old days at the drive-in, trying to impress the Treasurer and the Prime Minister with attempting to get some floor plan finance for KRUDDS mate.

      I ask all and everyone one of you that the next time you are having trouble getting a loan for a car or a house to ring the Treasury Dept and see if Swanny can help you and tell tham that you once saw the Prime Minister, and then see how long it takes for them to hang up on you.

    • Razor says:

      08:05pm | 22/06/09

      Gavin Couzen - using your standard there would have been a new Leader of the ALP every week for the elevenyears Howard was PM.

    • Danny Morgan says:

      08:09pm | 22/06/09

      Halberstram’s comments are a bit silly. There is no issue in a Senator using an unverified email. That was the point of the Senate Inquiry to get to the bottom of things. Unfortunately, the labour senators blocked the inquiry. Anyone watching it on TV would have been apalled at how Labour runs the senate. Many political journalists have written the same thing.

      Labor promised that they would bring back Parliamentary standards but the way question time operates is truly very poor. Maybe it’s the same as it was under the previous government but this Government promised to change it. The Government rarely answers an opposition question. They just make speeches, telling us how great they are. We know that already. They’ve told us a thousand times already.

    • fairbloodydinkum says:

      08:28pm | 22/06/09

      Fairbloodydinkum! what a joke…..After all….it was just an old ute…

    • Logical says:

      08:58pm | 22/06/09

      Anyone who falls for the Govt. smokescreen about the one email is missing all the other information out there about what Swan has been doing for Rudd’s litlle mate.  Its not rocket science but the PM and the Treasurer are treating the populations like idiots in the hope of weathering this fiasco.  If neither are held to account for lying to the Parliament in this way they will take it as carte blanche to do whatever they like with our money.  It will be a a complete dictatorship.

    • David says:

      09:23pm | 22/06/09

      Is it just me, or are others getting tired of our PM’s constant arrogance and condescension. He is so sanctimonious it is a total turn-off. As to the events of today, well even more questions need answering. A few yes or no answers would be most helpful. Please, enough of the speeches, time for some one word answers!

    • Craig Rowley says:

      09:26pm | 22/06/09

      “Rudd predicts “utegate” will be known as “Malcolm Turnbull’s fake email scandal” by the end of the week. (It doesn’t quite roll off the tongue the same as utegate, but anyway.) “

      Sure, but “Fake-gate” rolls just right.

    • DK Thommo says:

      09:50pm | 22/06/09

      Godwin Grech is the straightest, most honest person I have known.  Playing cricket at the local paddock when we were kids, Godwin was the type of guy who would “walk” if he thought he was out .  In my eyes that puts him in the same league as Adam Gilchrist.  Unfortunately ‘spin’ wasn’t that popular in the 1970s, so I’m a bit worried how prepared Godwin is for what lies ahead.

    • goannae says:

      10:13pm | 22/06/09

      Did I hear “Turnbull has egg on his face”? Sick stuff!
      How low and dirty can politics get?

      I will say Turnbull is tricky, and he has got Joel Fitzgibbon but this time he is outsmarted by Rudd. He tried the same old trick one time too many.

    • Tony says:

      10:36pm | 22/06/09

      I agree with David 8.23pm - Kevin Rudd came across on the 7.30 Report as arrogrant. His minders have taught him to constantly come up with lines such as ‘the alternative Prime Minister”  and ‘corrupt.  This whinning and grouchy looks betrays a man in charge, but more a man stressed out and not in control. Have the decency to tell the whole truth, move on, and start running this country.  Whilst you are bickering away, more people are losing their jobs and money is being wasted on pointless projects.  Again, you wonder why we bother with having governments.

    • Bill says:

      11:26pm | 22/06/09

      How sad to see Paul Kelly in Saturday’s edition more or less writing the PM’s obituary. If only he had waited a couple of days and seen who was really in the firing line.

      The email was a fake, a forgery and a figment of Turnbull’s imagination.

      However I suspect Mr Turnbull was set-up by the right wing extremists in his own party in order to remove him and for either P Costello to reconsider his decision to leave parliament and lead the party or perhaps to turn to the extreme conservative T Abbott.

      I am hoping the continuing police inquiries will uncover proof of a conspiracy involving a former member of M Turnbull’s staff, a treasury official and and a Liberal senator. Subsequent criminal proceedings and convictions would be the icing on the cake.

      Memo to Craig, I believe Mr Swan is about to release all the revelant correspondence. I expect you will apologise.

      In this case, truth and decency will win the day

    • F says:

      11:46pm | 22/06/09

      Well you can certainly see the faux-conservative Liberal stooges out in force to try and salvage something from this nonsense.
      I adore the conspiracy theory that this is all a Labor creation, well done! My god, why don’t you stop treating politics like a bloody football league and actually try and look at things rationally. I am no fan of Labor, and Swan has behaved poorly in this, but the oppositions behaviour has been absolutely apalling. Whining like spoilt brats about how nasty Mr Rudd is arrogant is just plain pathetic. Of course he is arrogant, he has just witnessed the opposition leader blow his political brains out.

    • Jane says:

      11:49pm | 22/06/09

      How opportune for the ‘fake’ email to be ‘found’.
      The email that Krudd nervously assured us ‘did not exist’ on Friday….and that a thorough scouring by his/gov IT dept failed to find ...or did it?

      Rudd has managed to turn the whole focus on to this ‘fake’, ‘forged’ email over the week-end..culminating in ever more shrill and confident claims about it this morning as the ‘be all and end all’ of the matter.
      Almost seems like he knew it was there to found already!!

      How opportune then, that the AFP ‘found’ it so quickly just as question time was going to air. Rudd appeared adament that IF a ‘fake, ‘forged’ email did in fact exist… this would completely absolve both he and Swan…end of story….oh, with an added bonus that Turnbull appears silly and it looks to have a “Lib’ link!!
      You beaut…how perfect.

      Of course….the ‘fake’ email was NEVER the crux of the whole issue anyway…the documented evidence of all the other emails and faxes to Swan et al, Cohen’s recollections and Grech’s stifled/imtimidated replies that already existed before…REMAIN. Swan ( and Rudd) is/are STILL shown to have mis-led parliament and shown ‘special’ preferential treatment over and above ..as maintained by the opposition in the first place.
      The reality of all that was increasingly and conveniently side-lined by this one ‘email’.

      The question remains. Why wasn’t this ‘fake’ email found over the week-end internally when so quickly discovered by the AFP?. ( maybe it was ) Why didn’t the AFP search for it before today?

      Rudd sounded pretty cocky and ‘staked the whole farm’ on any ‘fake’, ‘forged’ email. ( after previously denying any existed or could be found ) How handy one was found when it was.

      IF Rudd ALREADY KNEW a ‘fake’ email was there to be found ( and more cred to be found by the AFP rather than by themselves) then saying they had ‘found none’ in parliament today would be ANOTHER lie..and ANOTHER mis-lead of parliament.

      There were a couple of claims over the week-end on blogsites by exuberant ALP apologists that ‘something’ would happen over the next 24hrs….hmmmmm

      But again….it’s not about this one ‘email’...as maintained..That has just become a whole other saga in itself…adjacent to the original issue….and the validity of that remains as damning now as then.

    • Drew says:

      12:22am | 23/06/09

      Jason Mc, when they refer to fake email, they refer to the fact that the sender fraudulently represented themselves as the Prime Minister’s Office, when in fact it was sent by somebody else. There is fraud at work here, and in my book fraud requires criminal charges to be brought against the perpetrator.

    • Dr Ian J. Henderson says:

      10:45am | 23/06/09

      Symptomatic of all this twaddle that is going on in the name of Ozgate or Utegate - which ever - is the debacle within the Senate. So far, in this session we have seen nothing but obsfucation and humbug. The allegedly grown up people have just wasted time. Confronted with what could be claimed to be the most important piece of legislation to confront the Parliament - Global warming - all we see is a debate that has already occuppied one day on whether they should have a debate at all: this concerning what in many respects could be the end of life as we know it.

      Personally, I dont give a stuff about Ozgate or Utegate, whether Turnull or Swan should resign I, and most of my friends, would like to see Parliament functioning as it is meant to be.

      I am persuaded by the argument that one of the problems facing this Parliament is that the Liberals have still to come to terms with the reality that they are no longer in Government. They are acting as if their favourite toy has been taken from them.

      I am sure that most Australians are disgusted with the childish behaviour of our representatives in the Perliament and that they need to get on with the job they are paid (complete with perks) to do.

    • Vikki Millier says:

      03:07pm | 23/06/09

      Don’t underestimate the importance of this situation ... I am beginning to hear a lot about how Australian’s “DON’T CARE” ... but after a decade of Howard / Beasley / Costello being in charge ... we’ve been lead into an era of not knowing the characters of our most prevalent pollies.  It is a rather large insight into the tactics and methods that we could expect to see during the duration of their leadership!  It’s not behaviour we should be approving of, or putting up with.  Both sides of politics should have a good hard look at themselves!  When my 12 year old son is telling me that our parliamentarians are acting like children it could be time to ask our Opposition Party to grow up and learn to be better losers!  I can only pray that our government is able to pull themselves out of the mess they have been dragged into ... and move onto maturely governing our country.

    • Vikki Millier says:

      03:21pm | 23/06/09

      Responding to Alan Wirth .... not a good idea to put Joe Hockey forward for Lib Leader.  If Turnbull has dirty hands then Hockey’s hands are filthy in comparison.  Hockey is just as, if not more, instrumental in this “email-gate”.  It would be suicidal to promote him as a better alternative.  Shame really, because up until this matter he would have been a perfect choice.

    • Craig Rowley says:

      02:42pm | 24/06/09

      It now looks like it should be dubbed “Bull-gate”, which rolls right of the tongue too!

    • Mavis says:

      05:28pm | 26/06/09

      Mr Costello you got out at the right moment didn’t you you? What did you know about Mr Grech? Interesting.

      Mr Turnbull, your just not Howard are you? I really pity you. I suppose you thought no would notice the email was fake.

      Mr Hockey, your’ve lost my support over this. I"ve always though you’d be better leader than Turnbull but now? I don’t thinks so.

      Mr Rudd. You need to follow through with this investigation. Don’t let go even if some of your guys are involved. You are our Prime Minister. You must be a leader.

      What will become of Mr Grech? I shudder to think…..

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