We won’t need a tourism industry in 20 years’ time. And forget about annual leave, school holidays and sibling rivalry too.

Because, at least according to a series of predictions this week, by 2030 Australia will be a jumble of stressed individuals who’ve spent 10 years scrimping and saving for a house deposit and will be too broke and possibly too frightened to contemplate bringing more than one child into the world. Instead the choice will be to hold on for dear life to careers and term deposit accounts that have been fought for long and hard.

Take real estate, for example.

On Monday afternoon I caught myself forwarding friends the first paragraph of an advertisement from last Saturday’s Domain, just for fun.

“If you’re looking for a large house and garden in the inner west where all the hard work has been done, then this is the property for you,” it read before listing the starting price: $2.2 million.

“Oh come now,” remarked one friend, “We all have a spare 2.2 mil just laying around. What?”

“Roflmaocopter,” scoffed another.

But that’s about as funny as it gets.

News.com.au reported this week that today’s “young couples” can expect to save from anywhere between five and 10 years for a house deposit before they can even consider buying a house in cities like Sydney, Melbourne and Perth.

“It now takes longer to save for a house that it does to complete some university degrees,” said Bankwest retail CEO Vittoria Shortt. A reality made even more sobering when you consider that once you’ve finally secured the deposit, you’ve only got the cost of the average Australian house (approximatley $468,000) to pay for.

And what if you’re thinking about raising a family? With such a mixed bag of messages from previous generations and all the inter-government squabbling we’ve been subjected to, are any of us really brave enough to attempt it?

Institute of Family Studies director Alan Hayes told the ABC that while the birth rate continues to rise, despite society’s pressures, there are more families with both parents working than ever before.

And despite seeing a positive future for Australian families in the long term, he said it’s also “very difficult to predict what families will look like in 10 or 20 years, given the pace of change that’s occurred already.”

But a report in Monday’s Sydney Morning Herald told a different story. 

According to researchers at the University of Melbourne, despite being “encouraged to excel academically” while they attended high school, approximately 60 per cent of tertiary educated women from Generation X have blamed the “lack of family friendly policies” for their decision not to return to the workforce after having children.

Not only that, the study has found our collective health is suffering too.

When compared with a group of Canadian Gen X’ers, the Australian group (both men and women) were found to have “longer working hours” and “less job security”, leaving them “less able to establish long-term partnerships” and “have children as early.”

Add that to the problems of our rapidly ageing population and the unknown effects of climate change and 2030 is starting to look pretty grim.

Unless, of course, you’re one of those lucky few with a spare $2.2 million lying around the place. In that case, the future’s yours.

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    • Reg says:

      05:51am | 10/07/10

      If it’s not financially uncomfortable enough to make the disposed move to less expensive areas, then there’s no problem at all. They choose to be entertained by the exciting big city over the boredom of rural pastures. They chose apathy.

      They are boring and expect others to entertain them, rather than make the effort for themselves. Is that too strong? Roflmaowithoutaparachute.

    • Ryan says:

      11:11pm | 11/07/10

      What if you work in a job not quite located in the city center but nearby with no public transport on either side, not to mention the current two and a half hour commute every day to travel just 22kms. Yes of course, moving further out and never seeing your family is a much better alternative to forcing the selfish baby boomer generation who buy up all the properties, drive up prices and prefer to live where everyone is trying to earn a living.
      My recommendation would be an urban tax of $200 000 a year on anyone owning a property within 30km/s of the city center and not earning a regular income, starting one year from date of last tax dollar paid. The same applies to owning a second property that is not your principal place of residence and is not rented out. This is just one of the many solutions to the mess that is our cities today.. The other is to remove these incompetent Labor governments EVERYWHERE.

    • DJ says:

      10:55am | 12/07/10

      I work in North Sydney and live on the Central Coast as it is cheaper, yes I have no life during the week but meh, you gotta do what you gotta do

    • Gaz says:

      07:30am | 10/07/10

      My advice is to make sure you have kids at all costs. I was anti-kid pro-money until the birth of my first born, now I wonder what I was thinking. Kids bring you more joy than owning a house ever will, and they can look after you when you get old!

    • Win lotto says:

      02:34pm | 10/07/10

      Or they can stick you in a cheap nursing home because there will be no room for you to live in their small 2 bedroom apartment in Ryde (which is all they could afford).

    • Juju says:

      05:46pm | 10/07/10

      And grandkids eventually - and they’re even more fun than your own kids!

    • Mortgage Free says:

      08:34am | 10/07/10

      Just buy a smaller house.  Smaller mortgage, less stress.  Only have two children.  Eat and drink less. It’s amazing how easy it is to save when you try.

    • doubtful says:

      10:33am | 10/07/10

      T he problem will sove itself, i reckon…
      I look at my son and his friends at ages 12-13. There is absolutely no way in hell they are going to sacrifice 5 years or more of their lives and go without everything they want in order to save for a brick veneer sh!tbox…and then spend 25 more years paying most of their income to keep it. Or work long hours in jobs they hate just to get money to pay for it.
      They just won’t.  They live for now.  I think they are going to want something more than that….Good on them, too.

    • S.L says:

      10:44am | 10/07/10

      Go on the dole. Unofficially reside with your partner and kids while she gets the sole parents pension and government housing. Work for cash occasionally and hit the pub when you feel like it. SIMPLE! I know plenty of examples of this…...........

    • Steve_of_Cornubia says:

      10:45am | 10/07/10

      >sigh<  Another young ‘un who thinks stress and the pressures of everyday life has ony now become a problem.

      If that’s the case, why did I (born in the mid 1950s) have to hold down two jobs to pay the mortgage?

      Why did my wife and I, when we were engaged, consider a shared bag of hot chips eaten on a park bench was a ‘night out’?

      Why did I, aged 26 and with a wife and child, have to slog to work through hail, fog and rain on an ancient moped?

      Why did my wife have to work as well as raise our kids?

      Why did I, having been made redundant with a mortgage to pay, spend two years sawing up asbestos roofing sheets and clambering around on factory roofs, clearing pigeon carcasses out of gutters?

      Why was our first house a tiny shoebox next to a railway line?

      Why was I made redundant six times?

      Why was I in my late 30s before I owned my first new car?

      Why did my wife and I return to tertiary study in our 30s, when we had demanding jobs and two kids to look after?

      Why did I suffer a heart attack while I still had a dependant child at home?

    • Ryan says:

      11:13pm | 11/07/10

      Maybe you should have gone to university, it was free for you baby boomers.

    • NeilM says:

      09:05am | 12/07/10

      Ryan ...... Uni was not free for the vast majority of Baby Boomers, unless you think we should have pulled out of a job to go back to Uni (after most of us already had a family to support).

      Uni may not be free now but Baby Boomers got no Govt help to attend. The $400 a fortnight (average and not including recent cash handouts) handed to the present attendees would have kept far more of us at Uni than actually went.

      I did my degree and post grad after HECS came in and paid for Uni just as current students do…. simply because I could not afford to go to Uni until I hit 30 and correspondence courses came on track.

      I’m not complaining, not going to Uni gave me a much better appreaciation of the world and how facile most Uni outcomes actually are.

      But on the main topic of this thread… I do think over all BBs have had a pretty good run through life and GenX has had a dream run up to now but it is going to get a lot worse for them unless they get involved in making sure it does not.

    • Richard says:

      04:23pm | 10/07/10

      From a historical perspective, it is unrealistic but understandbly depressing to be extrapolating future trends in the housing market from these current heights, which have now reached the very peak of a massive bubble. A perfect storm of factors has conspired to send property prices in Australia absolutely ballistic since about 1995, but reading between the lines of the major newspapers lately I am beginning to (finally) see a tentative decline, which could very well escalate into a full-scale unravelling of US-style proportions if overseas credit markets freeze up again thanks to European sovereign debt-woes or if China slows down due to their own over-heated property market going bust.

    • Peter says:

      01:47pm | 12/07/10

      Richard the US had an oversupply of housing, we have an undersupply. I understand why people have been predicting that our property bubble will burst, but how can that happen with the current supply issues we have.. I learnt a long time ago that when it comes to property bubbles and Australian property, the usual logic does not apply. Any bubble that should have burst, should have done so a long time ago…

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      04:45pm | 10/07/10

      Peak oil will cure the housing blues. Of course it may mean civilizational collapse, but you can’t have everything….

    • Ryan says:

      09:41am | 11/07/10

      @Shane From Melbourne: yeah or we’ll be wiped out by a comet we didn’t see coming. Personally I think we are going ot be invaded by aliens and wiped off the face of the planet, although I do worry about those pesky volcanoes.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      12:00pm | 11/07/10

      @Ryan. That we have a finite amount of resources including petrochemicals is a fact. That we have a global economy based upon consumption of relatively cheap petrochemicals is a fact. That the hot air coming out of your mouth is enough energy to power Melbourne for a year is pure speculation…..

    • Ryan says:

      11:15pm | 11/07/10

      @Shane From Melbourne: peak oil is comming and yet you are on here using a computer wasting energy, you should be ashamed of yourself.

    • Ryan says:

      11:21pm | 11/07/10

      @Shane From Melbourne: oh and those resources you speak about “belong to all Australians” and I want my “fair share” of them, hell I am going to vote Labor and I won’t even have to pay for them.

    • Richard says:

      11:36pm | 11/07/10

      @Shane, I agree with you in many ways, but to play the devil’s advocate, I could suggest the counter-argument to your finite resources line is that: in a free market economy, technology always intervenes to rebalance supply and/or demand when the price of a commodity spirals out of control.

      So to take peak oil for example: at a certain price per barrel point, it becomes uneconomical to continue using petrol to run our cars. When that happens in a free market economy (which is the most important point to remember, because socialist central planning prevents this mechanism from working), there suddenly opens up a niche in the market for smart entrepenuers to profit by providing a cheaper solution to the problem of personal transport. And no, profits aren’t evil, they are the just reward for a person who takes risks by applying capital, labour and technology in order to improve our lives, (and the government has no right to confiscate a percentage of this).

      So whether this means that we convert our cars to run on liquid gas (which we will soon have a massive amount of considering the gorgan island project and all the qld coal seam gas operations coming on line in the next decade), or whether we come up with electric cars with ‘swap and go’ battery stations…. leave that up to Mr. Free Market to decide.

      But I do believe that there is cause for hope and optimism moving forward, as long as we don’t let the ‘big government’ socialist crowd fool us into thinking that super profit taxes and centrally planned stimulus projects are the proper way to run an economy.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      11:07am | 12/07/10

      @Richard. Your argument assumes a number of things. One that there is a substitute for petrochemical in the product, examples being aviation fuel, plastics, fertilizers, lubricants etc. The other is that the free market will be able to convert quickly enough. Otherwise the result is social dislocation. Remember that it took roughly three to four decades for western societies to convert from a horse and buggy society to a motor car society (roughly from pre World War I to post World War II). And this was in an era of cheap energy. The other problem is that if nations scramble to convert economies at the same time, you have intense competition for scarce resources, say to build a nuclear reactor etc.

    • Peter says:

      03:20pm | 12/07/10

      @ Ryan, that’s a strange form of Capitalism you believe in. If i were selling something that belonged to me, i would want the most money for it. I wouldn’t tell the agent selling it to keep most of the profits for himself through fear of being labelled a communist for rightly claiming what is mine.. And according to some, peak oil is already here, not sure why you would use a “being invaded by aliens” analogy to a very real problem…

    • Robert Smissen Rural SA says:

      06:39pm | 10/07/10

      55 Minutes from the CBD & mortgage free, just loving it. Move out of the city

    • Peasant #3167 says:

      09:37pm | 10/07/10

      The owning a home dream is fading, which is a policy disgrace for this young and big country. In the end it will lead to less fiscal control of the population as the RBA movements will have little effect . Young people will choose to spend then save. They will spend on electronics and communication tools. Property values will stagnate or fall. And those who do buy will be just renting from the bank. Unless property has more than a 10% growth per annum you’ll never beat the bank. Yes it’s a grim outlook, one of instability and lowered loyalties.

    • Michelle says:

      09:49pm | 10/07/10

      Well so long as mopey, fatalistic articles like this never mention immigration, you can bet we’re on a hayride to hell. William Bourke, convenor of the Stable Population Party:

      “At about 2 per cent a year, Australia’s population growth is twice the world average and around eight times the Western average. That’s extreme growth in anyone’s language…

      Is it also a coincidence that we have gone from five public hospital beds per thousand people to about three? Or from three years’ salary to afford the average home to more than seven?”

      Labor ramped up immigration and foreign student numbers to record levels, and relaxed foreign ownership rules. At a time of housing, water and infrastructure shortages, that is staggeringly reckless. Labor is mad, barking mad open-border ideologues at whatever the domestic cost. Abbott is not much better, but hopefully he’s more likely to scale back immigration and foreign ownership.

    • KH says:

      11:45am | 12/07/10

      Well of course.  Because all of this happened in the last 3 years.  Seriously, what planet do you live on?  These problems have been brewing since the mid 90s.  I’m pretty sure it was Howard who was in power when this really started.

    • murr40 says:

      07:08am | 11/07/10

      well mayb by then we wont b here so that will solve a few probs.

    • rob says:

      08:17am | 11/07/10

      Being of the older generation i would like to add this comment,forget the career ,forget those academic qualifications,forget the stress of owning the mansion with the swimming pool and the sauna,forget the overseas holiday and that bmw in the driveway,GO BUSH ,become self sufficient and live a quality life .

    • stephen says:

      12:45pm | 12/07/10

      Their collective is suffering ? No, mine is. I couldn’t work out how such lovely young things can save so much money, then i figured that those buzzards hanging around me waiting for me to finish my newspaper at a cafe so they kin pick it up and not have ter pay a buck-fifty fer their own - well, theys are savin fer their third investment property.
      I mean, how much is yer time worth bro’s ? So go git yer own, buy a caravan - yer own house on wheels - and go see the world !

    • Peter says:

      02:09pm | 13/07/10

      As long as we have extreme right wing views winning the argument in Employee (Industrial) Relations, we will never have family friendly work policies…

      Attended an auction on the weekend, 16kms from Melbourne and saw a shoe box size apartment sell for $550K.. What hope do future generations have? The first step is too slowly phase out negative gearing..

 

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