Way back in 2003 it must have seemed like a great idea to have the Commonwealth Games in colourful, on-the-move Delhi instead of the other front-runner, Hamilton in Ontario Canada.

Games organisers conduct a pyrotechnics rehearsal for the opening ceremony of the Commonwealth Games

But in 2010 the decision by the Commonwealth Games Federation General Assembly to send hundreds of fresh-faced athletes from 72 nations into a hotbed of terror threats and general chaos now looks, at the very best, reckless.

At worst, the Federation could end up sacrificing athletes and spectators to an unjustified cause. While acknowledging the strength of the argument to pull out now would “mean the terrorists win” – knowingly putting people in harms way won’t achieve anything.

Whose fault will it be if everyone’s worst fears about terrorism at Delhi 2010 are realised? First and foremost, of course, the blame will lie with proponents of terror.

But from the Commonwealth Games Federation down through every national sporting body taking part in the Games, there should be a reassessment of priorities.

What’s more important - making a point or the safety of a swathe of young people who didn’t sign up to take part in the War on Terror?

It’s a cop out to say it’s up to each athlete and their families to decide whether or not to attend the Games, which start on October 3.

Right now the Australian Government’s own travel advisory urges a “high degree of caution” for New Delhi.

The DFAT summary of the situation in India makes for troubling reading. Highlights include:

“We continue to receive reporting that terrorists plan to attack public places, including hotels and tourist locations, in New Delhi, Mumbai and other major cities. Terrorists may also be planning attacks against Indian political and security interests.

We also continue to receive reports about possible terrorist attacks against markets frequented by foreigners in New Delhi.”

The attacks are not just “possible”.

“On 19 September 2010, two foreign nationals were injured in a shooting incident at the Jama Masjid Mosque in New Delhi. Investigations are underway into the incident.”

Any normal tourist with a brain would read the DFAT website and decide to travel elsewhere – but we expect our young runners, jumpers and paddlers to ignore the advice.

We expect their parents to weigh up their strong desire to watch their children’s defining moments and their own personal safety.

Do we need to warn 10-year-old would-be gymnasts now that if they want to win gold one day they might be called upon to stare down a terrorist on behalf of the rest of us sitting at home watching on our flat screens?

We have a bizarre situation now where Grant Hackett, a swimmer, is urging authorities to step up security and call in the army.

I don’t recall Kieren Perkins having to take the lead on matters of geo-political security when he was face of sporting leadership in this country.

Hackett, who warned the Australian team not to venture beyond the confines of the athlete’s village, said: “This is not an over-reaction and it’s a common sense approach to what is a volatile situation. Our athletes’ safety and security should be top priority.”

He’s right. It’s not an over-reaction.

If the 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai proved anything, it’s that Indian authorities are totally incapable of conducting a slick security operation.

And the chaotic preparation of the venues for the Delhi Games have proved Indian authorities are incapable of conducting the slick operation of just about anything.

The arguments in favour of allowing cities such as Delhi to host major international events include that it gives them an opportunity to prove themselves on the world stage and that bringing nations inside the tent allows the rest of the world a greater positive influence on them.

The inside the tent argument was a compelling counter argument to the many people who said Beijing should not have been awarded the 2008 Olympics because of its appalling human rights record. Ignoring them doesn’t make it go away.

But India’s a different case, and Hamilton, Canada’s looking pretty good right now.

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    • AdamC says:

      01:10pm | 21/09/10

      “Any normal tourist with a brain would read the DFAT website and decide to travel elsewhere ...”

      Tory, India is a hugely popular destination for Australian (and other) tourists. That comment is pretty silly.

      Re the games issue, sure, it could be a target of terrorists. And, yes, athletes may be injured or killed in a terrorist attack. It is therefore incumbent upon the athletes to make a determination about their own level of comfort in competing.

      But, in a planning, sense, a terror attack is a risk to be managed, not something that should rule out entirely the prospect of Delhi hosting the games.

      A bigger question is how the Indians will pull it off, what with all the stuff-ups we have been hearing about ...

    • DaisyDuke says:

      01:31pm | 21/09/10

      The DFAT always takes the most cautious approach. Any normal tourist takes the DFAT advice with more than a grain of salt.

    • Elphaba says:

      02:01pm | 21/09/10

      @DaisyDuke, well said.

      A friend of mine is banned from reading DFAT when we travel, because she gets scared and threatens to pull out.  She’s never go anywhere if she reads that.

      It’s all well and good too keep the warning in the back of our head, quite another to let it foster paranoia.

      FYI Tory, my parents went to India last year.  Thy said it was an amazing country, with beautiful people.

    • AdamC says:

      04:14pm | 21/09/10

      DaisyD and Elphaba, I totally agree.

      People should be aware of the risks, but shouldn’t rule out any destination with at adverse advisory.

    • Michael says:

      04:21pm | 21/09/10

      Elphaba, I’m absolutely certain that killing your parents would not have the same political impact as killing a hundred athletes while half the world watches? Having said that, nobody doubts that India is a wonderful and exciting place… I like to have a bit more say in exactly what kind of excitement I get into though.

    • Carmel says:

      07:15pm | 21/09/10

      @Elphaba   Indeed, I’m sure India is a vibrant and exciting city, but it is a matter of when and not “if” there is a bombing during the games.

    • William says:

      08:57pm | 21/09/10

      NO, it is not a silly comment. A terror attack cannot be “managed’. Your hotel collapsing in flames while you sleep cannot be “managed”. Sitting in a bus while someone on a moped pumps rounds into it cannot be “managed”. The risk is real, DFAT is very well informed and gets it right. Heed them/

    • Gabor says:

      07:30am | 22/09/10

      You can’t be serious!  My husband worked in India and he will be the first to say stay out of the place, you have to be mad to go! Its dangerous and dirty on any given day let alone a really big event like this one.  The people are beautiful, but the country is in shambles.  They still deal in paperwork not computers for official documents making it impossible to track anything.  His company couldn’t get anything built properly let alone FINISHED! HA!  Everyone’s on the take, in fact they would budget for bribes!  There were many, many days when he couldn’t walk the streets just because his Indian friends would warn him not to go, this applied to both in the cities and in the country.  So one person alone it can be bad, imagine massive groups of foreigners, its just so tempting for a international terrorist attack.

    • Warwick says:

      09:33am | 22/09/10

      Daisy Duke, did you never go to school? “She’s never go anywhere if she reads that.”  Either you never went to school or your level of intelligence is abysmally low.

      Then you state that your parents say that India is an amazing country with beautiful people. Well, all people are beautiful. And as for amazing, India is amazingly filthy, it has an amazing caste system that condems millions of people to lives of unrelieved poverty and despair, and more to the point, it is infested with amazing Islamic terrorist organizations that are delighted when they can murder boys, girls, athletes, uninvolved bystanders, old folk and whoever gets within range of their weapons.

    • Susan says:

      10:04am | 22/09/10

      Place terrorism concerns aside for a moment.  The village structures are not safe; there are concerns about food and water; the facilities aren’t even ready.  Anyone can currently wander into the village apartments.  There are major safety, health and security issues well aside from terrorism.

    • Susan says:

      10:12am | 22/09/10

      @Gabor..so right about the bribes. One company I am aware of put them down as ‘taxi fares’ and similar in their books. They had to allow for bribery all the way through process steps.

    • Markus says:

      11:50am | 22/09/10

      @Warwick, Elphaba wrote that, not DaisyDuke. Either you weren’t paying attention, or your level of intelligence is abysmally low.
      Seriously, how hard is it to realise that it should read as “She’d”, meaning she would, but a simple miskey occured.

    • n_dude says:

      06:44pm | 22/09/10

      There is a risk of terrorist attacks in India and it has been high profile. But there is also a risk here. I travel there frequently to visit family and have never had any issues. I agree the bigger risk is that of the facility not being in a proper condition to run the event. Now that is the big risk.

    • nitin malik says:

      08:06pm | 22/09/10

      ( A comment from a guy in Delhi, India)

      hi AdamC

      Just a small question for you…
      US has the biggest defense budget..so does UK..still why were there 9/11…london/glasgow bombing ?

      are you 100% sure that tomorrow there is no terror threat in Australia..are you 100% sure that there can never be any terrorist attack in Australia….  .?

      dude terrorist are everywhere….only way to stop them is to face them face to face… if you comlain and get AFRAID about CWG security.. u just encouraging there mother f******.....

      CWG is gonna be big in INDIA…. I’m delhi… i acknowledge we going a little slow..but thats how it has been in India always.. we love to do things at the last minute… but we DO IT GOOD>

      Aussies….u talk about terror but you are not able to give security to Indian and people of ethnic minority in Autralia….we are hearing of murder/attacks everyday happening on the streets of Sydney and Melbourne///

    • IS says:

      02:44pm | 24/09/10

      If I can just add to nitin malik’s point about the risk of terrorism being present everywhere… the 1996 Atlanta Olympics also showed us that even sporting events in Western countires are not immune to terrorism prompted by religous (Christian, in that case) fundamentalism. And I bring that up to raise the point that terrorism CAN happen anywhere, not that it DOES or WILL happen anywhere. DFAT website… don’t get me started!! The paranoia it breeds in people is infuriating. But I guess it’s kind of like your mum telling you to take a jumper… she has your best interests at heart, but will say it with little regard to whether it’s actually cold or not.

    • Dan says:

      01:10pm | 21/09/10

      I have a very strong feeling these games are going to end in disaster one way or another, either through incompetence and deliberate act. India is simply not prepared, would it be that awful if they were postponed for 12 months?

    • Rosemary says:

      04:16pm | 21/09/10

      Yes, I share you nagging feeling that a terrorist incident will happen there during the games. The 2010 Games is a disaster looking for a place to happen, and that place is Delhi.

    • front Row says:

      06:26pm | 21/09/10

      You’ve touched on something here Dan, that might lead somewhere.
      Is it too far-fetched to wonder whether the Indians would not be all that upset if the games were cancelled?  Better that, perhaps, than the international humiliation of a shambles, or worse…

    • nostradamus :) says:

      02:16pm | 22/09/10

      Dan, I agree with you 100%.  I spent all of March in India, with 15 days in New Delhi. The day I got home I told my family that my prediction was that the games would not go ahead.
      I read their english newspapers everyday and the only articles about it were to do with the delays. No one I spoke to cared about it or was excited to have it. When I asked a cabbie to drive me to the sites so I could have a look, he laughed and asked why I wanted to see dirt.

      India was amazing to see, but nowhere near up to the international standards of hosting an event such as this. Whoever made the decision must never have gone there….

    • Brad Coward says:

      01:21pm | 21/09/10

      That’s what happens when guilt and political correctness form every decision made.  We must apologise for all of the wrongs done in India when it was the jewel in the crown of the British Empire.  Let’s hold the games there, old chap !  That’ll show ‘em that we’re sorry !  Pip, pip…and all that !

      Don’t worry that the country truly cannot afford to stage the event.  Dangerous ?  Don’t be stupid.  India has only been a hotbed of turmoil since independence.  Everything will be fine so long as the Indians suffer short term memory loss and overlook the period of the Raj.

    • Shama says:

      03:30pm | 21/09/10

      Brad India was a “hotbed of turmoil” even when the British were there. In fact they participated in the turmoil with some gusto, created a few of their own and also profited from it. Maybe brush up on your history?

      Though it is a concern, its not the terrorism that’s a huge issue - its the unpreparedness. Then again the Oz media has gone on about how atrocious and deplorable the preparations for every sporting event has been since an event that was held - hmm let’s see - a decade ago in their own country. Here’s a wake up call - no one remembers the Sydney Olympics if you leave these shores.  And here’s another suggestion - can you just leave all games alone because clearly no one is going to do it as well as you? Somehow I don’t think anyone will notice.

    • jg says:

      06:14pm | 21/09/10

      so it is the fault of the British Brad?

      If you believe that you truly are an idiot.

    • Leigh says:

      02:19pm | 21/09/10

      thanks for the link harry, interesting read

      some sensible comments from readers, along with some loony ones.  Had fun going through marking agree, disagree, and offensive

    • Macca says:

      02:38pm | 21/09/10

      @Harry, what a bunch of complete drivel, to suggest Australia’s security concerns are mere racism and hysteria is condescending and biased.

    • TheRealDave says:

      02:41pm | 21/09/10

      If only we had a Caste System like India - no-one would call us racist then.

      Emerging Superpower my arse.

    • Markus says:

      02:57pm | 21/09/10

      Interestingly a lot of the comments on that article, from Indians themselves, say that the Australian athlete’s fears are fair enough, that there are still potential problems around poor security and risk of attack.

    • Macca says:

      03:20pm | 21/09/10

      @Markus, there was those comments, and the others saying that Australians are “99% racist…its in their genes” and things of that nature. Pretty insulting

      @Leigh, I have followed your lead wink

    • Eric says:

      03:48pm | 21/09/10

      “Australians are racist ... it’s in their genes.”

      Irony alert!

    • Tim says:

      04:08pm | 21/09/10

      Wow,
      Just…...wow.

    • Markus says:

      05:01pm | 21/09/10

      Haha Macca I was expecting every comment to be like that (that article reads like a blog equivalent of talkback radio, or news.com raspberry).
      That they were mostly well considered responses impressed me.

    • EM says:

      11:27am | 22/09/10

      HA!  It always makes me laugh when Indians call Aussies racist…  Pot, kettle, black…

    • Macca says:

      01:31pm | 21/09/10

      Its hard to work out whether giving India the Comm Games was inspirational or, as Tory stated, reckless. The next few weeks will give us an answer.

      However, @Tors, Will you be happy to indulge in humble pie if the Games do indeed succeed and an attack does not occur?

      I’m not confident this will happen, but still, I’ve been wrong before.

    • Tory Maguire

      Tory Maguire says:

      01:44pm | 21/09/10

      Absolutely Macca - am hoping very much to be served up a big plate of humble pie…

    • Graham S says:

      01:34pm | 21/09/10

      Well put Tory and the mere idea of even thinking of going to India anytime after Mumbai let alone now doesn’t bear thinking. This is one country that is a chaotic, disorganised dysfunctional mess. Of course we all know each participating country’s officials will be well ensconced in 5 star high security, chauffeured everywhere in limousines and look after very well thank you so they haven’t got any safety concerns hence their positive outlook, but the tourists, spectators and athletes?  And which Commonwealth countries are targets for Islamist terrorism that are currently actively involved in the Middle East & Afghanistan: Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Canada. Just the 4 biggest visiting nations. And how many citizens from these same 4 countries have been watched or arrested or on trial currently for home grown terrorism threats? And their “Islamist Brothers” won’t be planning any plots? Any country with the smallest safety concerns should pull out now and by doing so sends a message to India that if you want a part in the Big Dance, then they have to clean up your act or suffer the consequences . And which Australian politician or Games official will sign a pledge of personal responsibility and resign forever should any incident occur resulting in harm to an Australian athlete; the silence will be deafening!

    • lemo says:

      01:41pm | 21/09/10

      Have you seen those so called “security forces” on the news reports - they look like they have thrown a uniform on the nearest person for the photo opportunity - I for one wouldnt be putting my trust in that rabble.

      If you need to have a machine gun post at the entrance to venues - it might be time to rethink the whole thing - is it really worth it?

    • HarlequinBeetle says:

      01:44pm | 21/09/10

      Overreaction?  Giving terrorists the upper hand?  Commonsense must prevail..our people are too precious to put in this situation.  Perhaps time to consider ending the Commonwealth Games [ and Olympic Games too] , after all the cost is prohibitive, and when the demolishion of slums in India my heart went out to the people: these were these poor peoples homes…yes, their homes…however, so modest. Just where are our priorities?

    • Shaking Head says:

      01:57pm | 21/09/10

      Leave it there, a bit of danger will spice things up for me from my armchair.  I want to see which athletes have gumption and devil may care guts.

    • Justin says:

      02:03pm | 21/09/10

      I would be less concerned about security if the rest of the games organisation was going well. The Kiwis arrived today & their chef de mission said the prospects of the Games being cancelled were now very real:

      “That’s not a decision that we’ll make (alone) but there are some realities. If the village is not ready and athletes can’t come, obviously the implications of that are that it’s not going to happen.”

      My worry is that if they can’t organise the tradies, how are they going to organise watertight security?

      Maybe I’m wrong, but hasn’t the Commonwealth Games concept run its course? It’s a relic from a time before the Pan Pacs, regular world championships & world cups, the Golden/Diamond League, & professional sport in general. It was the 4 yearly counter-balance to the Olympics & such a thing just isn’t needed any more.

    • jeffb says:

      02:28pm | 21/09/10

      You should probably read this Tory, http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/advice_meaning.html

      Perhaps after you’ve worked out what the DFAT advice actually means you can redo your article.

      And seriously, comparing surprise attacks like Mumbai and the recent shooting to the Commonwealth Games is ridiculous. The Indian government knows exactly what is happen, when its happening, exactly what is required of them and has a huge amount of experience dealing with these issues.

    • Andrew says:

      09:37am | 22/09/10

      JeffB: you could say the captain of the Titanic has a huge amount of experience with icebergs. Does that mean you want him to captain your ship?

    • Saurabh says:

      02:32pm | 21/09/10

      Two decades ago, the Babri Masjid was demolished in Ayodhya in Uttar Pradesh, India. It is believed that Babri Masjid (mosque) was built by muslims to destroy the remains of Lord Rama’s birthplace in Ayodhya. This Temple-Mosque case has been in the courts for a long time and this issue has created a lot of unrest in India in recent times. Google the two words “babri masjid” and you’ll find out.

      The court is delivering it’s final verdict on 24th September. Whatever the result be, one of the 2 parties will be very furious.

      Not a good time to be hosting Commonwealth Games in India, not at all.

    • Mark says:

      02:33pm | 21/09/10

      I like the games for the entertainment they provide….
      Not really fussed about what event and whether it was planned, organised or is a response.

    • Dreamcoat says:

      02:47pm | 21/09/10

      Terrorists aside for a moment, I returned from a brief sojourn to Delhi in February 2010 only too aware that they were NEVER going to have everything ready in time. Unfortunately, that prediction appears to be spot-on.
      Regards terrorists? I went through 9 checkpoints before a flight out of Chennai after the Mumbai bombings the year before. Regrettably most would prove woefully inadequate if actually tested. The metal detector at the airport appeared to be no more than a couple of pieces of 2x4 thrown together with a few blinking lights for effect - certainly nothing to inspire confidence.
      I fear the worst, too, I’m afraid.

    • Zeta says:

      02:48pm | 21/09/10

      Any one who travels contrary to a DFAT travel advisory is a complete irresponsible idiot. This stuff isn’t cooked up by a bunch of dudes with a few week old newspapers thinking ‘whoa, shits getting real bro’. We’re a party to the UKUSA agreement, which shares signals intel straight out of terrorist infested hell holes like the sub-continent, filters it through our international intelligence agency ASIS, to the Office of National Assessments, and straight into DFAT’s travel advisory.

      It’s not pie in the sky stuff. A DFAT travel advisory - or any advisory from any Foreign Affairs or State Department office means one of the major powers has actual signals chatter that an attack is likely.

      They shouldn’t go. It’s a fool’s errand. There is no sport worth getting killed for.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      03:56pm | 21/09/10

      Or it could be the other possibility, a government department just covering their ass. As for intelligence analysis, history is littered with false estimates and unexpected developments…..

    • jeffb says:

      04:32pm | 21/09/10

      DFAT travel advice is aimed at independent travelers who have to look out for themselves while travelling. Thats not the case with the games team at all as they will have security experts looking after them at all times.

      Is DFAT saying don’t travel to India? No.

      If you read the page properly you’ll see it says only not to travel to Kashmir & the NE provinces (you need a special visa to get into the NE even if you wanted to go).

      Did you know DFAT has travel advisories out for the UK, USA, Canada, etc? Even an advisory on New Zealand…

      Have you ever left your house Zeta?

    • Moby says:

      06:14pm | 21/09/10

      @ Zeta…. “It’s not pie in the sky stuff.” - actually, half of it is…...a) they work on a worst case scenario, b) they have yours and my best interests in mind and c) if you beleived half of the stuff that the security agencies see, there would be no international travel full stop!

      As for whether the athletes should go or not, that is their call along with those that they care to consult, but its not a fools errand…..

    • Shane says:

      08:04am | 22/09/10

      Are these the same intelligence organisations that were convinced Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?  I would guess it is safer for an Australian in Delhi than an Indian in Melbourne.

    • MDMConnell says:

      02:49pm | 21/09/10

      My concern is that the Comm Games will be used as a distraction. With all the security focus on Delhi, terrorists may exploit that to carry out attacks elsewhere in India.

    • N says:

      03:01pm | 21/09/10

      It’s a simple fact that when you place a mass of international talent in one location, it’s going to be highly susceptible to terrorism. Agree with the analogy that if we leave, the bad guys win by default, though it’s very much a catch 22 situation. 

      As Justin has said above, the need for the Commonwealth Games is now questionable, it was filler between the Olympics, but now with so many other international championships, is there still a need? I would like to understand why India was selected as the host, seems like a poorly made decision in comparison to Canada, but as they say hind sight is always 20/20.

    • Darren Holdsworth says:

      03:27pm | 21/09/10

      we moved our IT department to India and on the surface it saved us a fortune. except that now we have less people in australia doing 3 times the work because the skills and competency over there are just not up to the standard. I hope the commonwealth games is safe and successful but my instincts tell me otherwise. by the way, there are warm, welcoming, wonderful and talented peoplev over there in India, but it is a still a developing nation.

    • John says:

      08:04pm | 22/09/10

      Worst part about this is there are many competent qualified aussies sitting on their bums twiddling their thumbs as a result of sending IT work offshore. In 10-20 years time we will be complaining that we dont have qualified IT people in Australia. We should be training people with disabilities to do this work from their own homes it would be a win, win, win situation. The government would save on pensions and collect some tax, people with disabilities would feel useful again and employers would discover new efficiencies and cost savings.

    • Dan says:

      03:30pm | 21/09/10

      Tory,

      I have a question for you…..... given that London is very high on list of places where the terrorist attack can happen and that they have had 2 attacks (trains + airport) plus a few failed plots ....... would you say Australia should show the same amount of concern that its players and visitors “could” have a high risk of terrorist attack when Olympics are held there?

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      05:26pm | 21/09/10

      Considering that Britain has two of the best counter-terrorist organizations in the world, Special Branch and the SAS, in a word, No.

    • Dan says:

      06:08pm | 21/09/10

      Shane from Melbourne - SAS is a commando force not a intelligence service and so called “best” couldnt stop:

      1) Train attack
      2) Airport attacj
      3) Shoe bomber (thank god for alert passengers)

      All this just proves my original point - NO country is 100% safe. No one can guarantee anyone’s safety. I would dare the DFAT to issue a no risk advisory for UK, USA or any western European country.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      07:26pm | 21/09/10

      @Dan- I said counter terrorist organizations. Special Branch and MI5 would be responsible for intelligence gathering against terrorist organizations. The SAS has considerable experience in combating terrorist organizations such as IRA in Ireland and operations such as the Iranian Embassy seige and would be the lead organization in counter terrorist operations.

    • Dan says:

      08:50am | 22/09/10

      @Shane - If “experience” was the criteia then I am sorry the “best” dont stack up. India has had 20 times more experience dealing with terrorists and groups like Lashkar Toiba and Hrkut ul Mujahidin which are front for Al Queida. Compared to them IRA were kids playing with toys.

      And before you say that attacks still happen in India inspite of experience - IRA bombed and attacked with impunity while half of UK forces were deployed there and that was with IRA not having the option to run back to another country when chased (the terrorist in India often run back too Pakistan when challenged / chased - specially in Kashmir)

    • notsurprised says:

      09:04am | 22/09/10

      Dan - “...NO country is 100% safe.” correct, but some countries are far less safe than others. I would rate England as safer than India.

    • Granger says:

      10:16am | 22/09/10

      Shane from Melbourne - you need to do more research mate..the marketing depts and pro-west media (or more likely the old coffers unable to accept the changing guard in world power) have got u believing the Brit forces are ‘two of the best’ - they haven’t had to prevent anywhere near the amount of terrorist attacks india has to - has to be considered in the context of overall threats.

      Also to the previous comment referring to india as a ‘terrorist infested hellhole’ you should probably know that India IS NOT A Muslim country and it would be absolutely insulting to say that Delhi (where corruption and poor management is certainly present) represents the whole of what I think, as a well traveled white man, is a country with many beautiful people and a great heart. It is NOT a terrorist infested hellhole.

    • Sk says:

      03:47pm | 21/09/10

      Harden up people..Aus is not the centre of the universe, far from it..go travel and you’ll know lol

    • Robert Bell says:

      04:03pm | 21/09/10

      Less than 6 months ago we had the Indian press bleating about how dangerous Melbourne was for Indian students studying in Australia. Two or three incidences occurred and suddenly we were the racist country,now it appears the boot is on the other foot, it demonstrates just how little momentum is required to start a stampede of paranoia,sure if problems are escalating be cautious ,but what is the evidence thus far.

    • jb says:

      04:23pm | 21/09/10

      Anyone who has been to India or any other part of the world where Indians have a large population know just how racist Indians themselves can be.
      One side of the people are the most beautiful and compassionate human beings you have met and the other side are the most racist bigoted people on the planet.
      Many have a serious superiority complex and at many official functions we have had nationals from nearby tables ask to be moved away from the foreigner table.
      I am not trying to make excuses I just feel that there are two stories here, and the ones calling us 99% racist are the ones I am talking about, the slightest bit of criticism to them or the country has nothing to do with the fact they are so unorganized the answer is alway oh they are all racists.

    • Lumin says:

      10:43pm | 22/09/10

      Can’t agree more…

    • Michael says:

      04:25pm | 21/09/10

      Just a couple of months ago, the Indian government reported corruption in the building of the stadiums - people cutting corners to make more profit and bribing officials to certify the buildings as safe. I wonder where the greatest risk is… The shonky buildings or the chance of bombings. Both in combination, maybe?

    • AB says:

      04:26pm | 21/09/10

      Some of the comments posted here are really alarming and can truly create an environment of mistrust and disharmony. I understand the security concern amongst Athletes and their relatives. However its totally unfair to put question mark on everything India have achiever or going through. Its true that the preparations are not complete but that doesnt make India go backwards in terms of development. 
      It seems like if the games had been organised in USA/Canada/Britain, no body would have any concerns about going there even if they are hot targets for terrorists.
      Ask Aussie Cricketers, if they had to face any problems in India. The problem lies in the mindset. One gentleman on the forum just commented that Chennai Airport security was inadequate, I would like to ask him to read the article in today’s news, where one of the elderly lady passed security and scanners twice with Screw Driver in her cabin luggage. Does that mean that security arrangements in Australia are inadequate? I also know a person who succeded in reaching the Aircraft at domestic Airport in Adelaide without even a boarding pass.
      In the nutshell if people do have concerns, they shouldn’t travel to India ever.No one in the world can provide guarantee to anyone’s life.

    • Etrix says:

      04:30pm | 21/09/10

      If I start taking DFAT advice so seriously I will not travel majority of the places in this world – plus I am not the one believes in govt knows all. No country is safe - it could happen anywhere. People who are conducting terrorist activities in India are very same people our troops are fighting in Afghanistan (so called war on terror) – so these terrorist are not our enemy any more bcoz they have crossed borders to attack our athletes & civilians? Is this not our moral obligation to provide support to India rather than creating hysteria? Our country is not that safe either Melbourne gangland killings, riots in Sydney in 2006 etc. to name a few. People in Australia enjoy bitching about India & that’s what it is all about. If this would not be CWG we would not even care about innocent civilians being killed. Do we have any friend left in our neighbourhood we hate China, Japan, Indonesia, India, Malaysia etc. Grow up people adapt with changing times – we have too much superiority complex. What goes around comes around.

    • rufus says:

      04:35pm | 21/09/10

      I don’t even see why it’s a matter for public comment. The choice of whether to go or not to go rests with the athletes and the associations of their various sports. Australian public opinion has no bearing on it whatsoever.

    • Ron E Joggles says:

      06:52pm | 21/09/10

      Rufus, any athlete who makes an individual decision to pull out can kiss their career goodbye. They are all under enormous pressure to ignore their growing fears and join this risky venture. If there are terrorism deaths we will all regret our collective gung-ho attitude.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      04:39pm | 21/09/10

      I have for quite some time subscribed to the DFAT e-mail alerts and I forward them onto family and friends as appropriate.

      Some years back my daughter was living and working in the UK and I was receiving quite a few alerts from DFAT warning me of heightened security concerns in the UK (don’t recall the precise wording). I recall that she asked me to stop because it was scaring her, a few weeks later the bus was blown up.

      Sure, there will always be those alerts that thankfully don’t materialize – but – they are not posted at DFAT because someone is bored. I’ve just scanned the 20 odd summary points (forget about the detail) in the Australian Government’s own travel advisory and you would have to be mad to even consider going to India. My 10 year old Gymnast wouldn’t be going.

    • Aitch says:

      04:52pm | 21/09/10

      Personally, I’d prefer we scrap the Commonwealth Games altogether. The prospect of large chunks of the daily agenda being devoted to middling athletes competing for the glory of Queen what’s-her-face gives me a headache ...

    • Harald says:

      11:42am | 22/09/10

      oh Yes! Aitch for PM..best comment of a thread where anything about an asian/sub continental nation manages to turn into an ugly race debate..STOP IT

    • David says:

      05:05pm | 21/09/10

      Absolutely we shouldn’t send a team to Delhi. The Mumbai terrorism fiasco which went on for days before the lumbering anti-terrorism bureaucracy could organize an appropriate and tardy response is enough proof that the authorities in India are out of their depth. Plus the facilities aren’t ready. India was given an opportunity to showcase its potential and its ability to host the Commonwealth Games and the country blew the opportunity. Face the consequences!

    • CB says:

      07:03pm | 21/09/10

      Time for the clandestine games - events held in secret locations across the country, nothing televised live and results only announced once the location has been cleared of all athletes. Forget the village, the athletes are housed in random hotels, disguised as backpackers and sign in under assumed names. No Hotel has any one nation or specific sporting group - Heck why not everyone stay home and just compete at their local venue and the results get emailed into New Delhi for “official announcement” - note this option could make the marathon, road cycling, walking and rowing a bit tricky. Perhaps it is time to outsource the Games tongue laugh

    • Daniel says:

      08:27pm | 21/09/10

      Couldnt agree more with the title of this blog. I have watched the news tonight and cant say I would want to be over thereor have anything to do with India. Its too chaotic and reckless.

    • thatmosis says:

      09:26pm | 21/09/10

      Is sport really worth the lives of participants and spectators? Have we become so fixated on winning that the lives of our sportsmen and women are worth nothing but a Gold, Silver or bronze medal. Nobody in their right mind would and should put themselves and others at risk just for a spectacle. Warnings have been given and it is up to the Governing bodies to take these warnings and stop the games. Waht happens if they dont and people are killed just to appease the masses baying victory, they will just say it was the athletes decision and that will be that whilst everybody will know that they had the power to stop this before it happens. I really hope nothing happens but even Simple Simon would balk at going there now.

    • Rory the red says:

      09:29pm | 21/09/10

      If I were Islamofascist Terrorist, and I was looking for a fat juicy, target rich environment,  full of foreign infidels, close to home, where logistics & secure communications are not a problem, just where would I go to earn my ticket to paradise & 72 virgins?.

      Should our Athletes go to Delhi?, it should be up to them to decide , but I am sick and tired of being told by appeasers & Islamic apologists that we should not do anything that may offend them.

      Appeasers should realise that our very existence offends them, especially the progressive apologists who also happen to be Feminist and Homosexual .

      So lets go and try to enjoy ourselves, and if they kill some Athletes,  lets vomit as we watch the usual suspects amongst us blame everyone but the Islamofascists.

    • Jim Chechniov says:

      10:04pm | 21/09/10

      The intelligence now indicates that the attack two days ago was a practice. Chatter has died down in recent weeks, a clear indication of an imminent attack.
      It is dangerous and poorly planned.

      Aside from the terror dangers, there’s also the health risks. Huge amounts ot pesticides being fogged over athletes won’t do much for their health. Also consider that the pesticide they’re using if it gets into chlorinated drinking water becomes toxic.

    • Gregg says:

      10:45pm | 21/09/10

      They did not move the world cricket championships to SA for no small reason and just like that, the games and all the buses travelling between village and events is just going to be what terrorists will see as a target.

      So whilst individuals may be able to travel around India and feel safe enough meeting friendly smiling people they’re not the ones to be concerned about and it took just 10 -13 guys was it to make a mess in Mumbai and where were the Indian forces then?

      So if there are other problems with being ready it is a bit of a no brainer and if people do get hurt/killed, who will it be that is going to be the culprit?, not for doing the hurting/killing but those putting victims in harms way.
      Ganes are supposed to be all about fun and enjoyment and how can that be so in the environment competitors and spectators alike will be in.

    • subs says:

      11:17pm | 21/09/10

      Just a few obeservations:
      “Games organisers conduct a pyrotechnics rehearsal for the opening ceremony of the Commonwealth Games”
      As someone who has lost a friend to terrorist attack I found the above caption profoundly insensitive and unnecessary.  How would you like a photo of the Bali bombing with the caption ‘Aussie tourists get blown in Bali’?

      “If the 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai proved anything, it’s that Indian authorities are totally incapable of conducting a slick security operation”
      Remember the September 11 attacks in 2001 in US? Any comments about the capability of the Americans?  A terrorist attack can happen anywhere, anyplace.  Don’t live in an ivory tower thinking that it can’t or won’t happen here.  It has nothing to do with living in chaotic India or a sanitised Australia.

    • Liberal Voter says:

      11:59pm | 21/09/10

      The fact of the matter is, the infrastructure which the Indian government has provided is severely sub-standard.  There have been reports of cutting corners in construction, bribery, fake safety certifications and evidence that they have been getting children to do manual labour.  I agree 100% with Tory, I hope the games get scrapped and the Indian government will have to deal with the fact that it poured hundreds of millions of ruppees down the drain.  That will teach it a valuable lesson - Don’t cut corners, don’t allow corruption and ignore safety standards, don’t volunteer to host an event if you are incapable of hosting it, and don’t waste ridiculous amounts of money when you have masses of poor, starving people to feed.  Putting the games on hold for 1 or 2 years will not make a difference, they’ve had 7 years to prepare for these games.  India as a nation is incapable of doing this, and we should have seen this coming a long time ago.  Pull the pin.

    • JC says:

      12:10am | 22/09/10

      what security standards is Australia proud of? remember “Chasers” entering the highly secured area when George Bush was in Sydney…, that show was hilarious by the way.

    • Barry says:

      12:20am | 22/09/10

      Clearly Indians can’t secure Delhi.  We should send Australian security over there to do the job right - all we have to do is make sure terrorists don’t drive black hire cars adorned with Canadian flags.

    • Scorpio says:

      12:21am | 22/09/10

      Haha Tory, the picture and its caption is hilarious.

    • Tony says:

      12:30am | 22/09/10

      With the experience I have had with Indian type security, you could drive a cement mixer full of nitrate in there and it would not be checked, you cannot rely on these people for anything. Tits on a bull should be their motto! Or when the going gets tough they get going!

    • C1 says:

      12:40am | 22/09/10

      I have just heard that a pedestrian bridge leading to the main stadium collapsed injuring 25 workers. The NZ delegation as slammed the accommodation as disgusting. I think it is those aspects that will decide whether the games go ahead long before any security fears.

    • Xavier says:

      01:07am | 22/09/10

      Well, this is India. The CWG should never have been selected to be be hosted by this country. Until they resolve issues with terrorist groups and their incapable infrastructure, no major modern games events such as this will be successful.

      New Delhi is really nothing compared to the recent Olympics host Beijing. Just look at the difference, even though it is visually different, at least Beijing had proper construction crews working instead of children and at least Beijing made sure proper planning was carried out on time. If you disagree with any of this, the 2008 Olympics seemed to be a pretty big success, no such reports of bridges failing or atheletes villages being imcomplete upon their arrival.

      The bottom line is: India is just not ready for this kind of thing. Sorry, claiming that you are as good as China is just being stupid. Google your cities compared to China’s. The difference is embarassing for anyone to even think that.

      Perhaps in a few decades, India will be ready. Until then, hope that a miracle will save the reputation of these games, otherwise India will probably never be able to host another major event like this ever again.

    • iansand says:

      08:14am | 22/09/10

      I bet the trains ran on time in Beijing as well.

      Give me chaotic democracy over a centrally planned economy every time.

    • Paul the Octopus says:

      01:20am | 22/09/10

      The Games will be cancelled. Because of incomplete construction? No. Because of fraud and corruption? No. Because of public filth and disease? No. The games will be cancelled because the Organising Committee has not obtained insurance coverage for the athletes. A decision has been made not to waste the money on an insurance premium because they know the games will not proceed.  The swimming component of the Games will be transfered to Australia. Other competitions will be transfered to other Commonwealth countries. These contingency plans are being discussed between the major Commonwealth Games Authorities will go some way to satisfying the broadcasters, who will be deeply out of pocket.  India will shout racism. International relations will be damaged for decades but no one will really care.

    • Bazza says:

      01:21am | 22/09/10

      Did you see the collapsed pedestrian bridge this morning.
      You do not need a terrorist attack for a calamity to befall on the impending games.  Now when did a pedestrian bridge collapse in this way in New Zealand, United Kingdom, Australia or any where hosting games.  Why is no one focussing on this alone and coupled with the grotesque living conditions provided by India.  Based on this alone do you think the games should go ahead puting the terror attacks to one side.

      Has any one been to India, well I would not advise anyone.  The stench, the litter, the beggars and absolute poor living conditions - here is a nation that is in denial and is not the magical, progresive nation we ar eeld to believe.

      Do you wish to place your safety / security and our athletes into the hands of Indian Security forces.  While India boasts it is among the largest army in the world but have you actually seen the police and military men in India.  Some one rightly said it was as if they threw a uniform to just about anyone, they look unprofessional, unfit and without a clue.  No disrespect to the dead in Mumbai atacks, India believed by Indians to be a super power ( giggling).  The Mumbai terror being played out on our screens looked like a poor B-grade movie.  A handful of terrorists amorously walking through the streets unleaashing carange without any security or police intervention.  When there were shots of police and security forces - they were not exactly oozing profesionalism and capable.

      Some say Mumbai may have ben a false flag, it may well have been but the underlying fact is - India as a nation is incapable, unprepared to hold an event of this scale.

      Some one really glossed over some hard facts when they made a poor judgement over India as the next economic power or super power ...my arse.

      I have been to both China and India as well as Pakistan.  China is a developing, progressive nation and I visited Pakistan before the current terror attacks.  Islamabad is absolutely beautiful compared to the slummish, stench ridden places you find in India.  Unlike India - Pakistan does not live in a bubble and knows it’s limitations, speak to an Indian and he thinks he is the nuts.

      Do us a favour - call of the common wealh games, do the right thing.

    • Graham S says:

      09:08am | 22/09/10

      Bridge collapse - Israel - Maccabbi Games - Australian deaths

    • Shama says:

      10:57am | 22/09/10

      Bazza I don’t disagree entirely with your post. But its quite muddled and stupid.

      Tere is serious money in India.  Any city these days there is full of white people unlike a few years back-and they aren’t all that bothered about doing anything about the poor either. If you think anyone is going to scoff at that money and write off India you are quite foolish.  Also India is not China and thank God for that - at least it didn’t have a Cultural revolution.  Also China has enough problems of its own even now-you don’t hear about the human cost of the Beijing Olympics but it doesn’t mean there wasn’t a cost. 

      Your comments about Islamabad are a joke. Pakistan has way too many problems. Maybe you have forgotten the attack on the Sri Lankan team.

    • Markus says:

      12:10pm | 22/09/10

      Pakistan is currently banned from hosting international fixtures by the International Cricket Council. All Pakistani ‘home games’ must be played at neutral venues.
      What makes you think the Comm Games would be any safer?

    • BobM says:

      02:15am | 22/09/10

      The walkway of the main stadium has just collapsed - imagine the building ‘standards’ of the rest of the structures. Why would you risk your life going to such a hole - not only with the risk of a terrorist attack, but also of shonky stadiums and stands.

    • RED says:

      03:22am | 22/09/10

      As an Indian in Australia with common sense, I strongly believe the Commonwealth Games should be canceled. There are serious issues that need to be addressed, which will never ever happen on time. The whole racism debate annoys me because the sad part yes racism exists in Indian to horribly large extent and for the Indian media to address international concerns at the CWG as ‘racists’ remarks, makes me sick to the stomach. The security issues, besides, planning, architectural,  transportation, have fallen well short of what is even acceptable as ‘passable or adequate’. Surely given how tense the political situation in India is (internally and externally) (and yes, I have political science degrees to comprehend these), the government is simply turning a blind eye to such issues. I am truly and extremely disheartened to call myself an Indian today !!.. shame

    • dude says:

      03:29am | 22/09/10

      I do not think there is any higher risk of terrorist incident during CWG in Delhi. Biggest risk is the work done in haste and organization.
      Different departments of Indian govt is so corrupt that nothing gets done, and in the CWG case when the official saw a golden opportunity to make money, they did it with no holds barred.
      Whereas Indian corporate sector is very professional and progressive and this is the real indian story its common people and not its govt.
      Sincerely hope the CWG is run without any incident and corrupt officials given a boot and jail term.

    • phil says:

      04:46am | 22/09/10

      The Australian cricketers are touring India shortly and no-one is suggesting they don’t. I was in India last week and it was as friendly as ever.

      There are two issues - the terror threat is one and then here’s the bumbling and corruption that has left the Games facilities and stadia sub-standard if they’e here at all.Call the games off or switch them to anoher venue because India didn’t do the job. Security is a different issue.

      I note the Aussie IPL players aren’t boycoting India.  Their ads are all over the TV and billboards.

    • Rev says:

      08:13am | 22/09/10

      phil, how about you come back to reality.

      You were India last week.  That’s nice.  Were you representing Australia, a country who stood alongside the US in Afghanistan and Iraq?  Face it, athletes will be a greater target than you.

      As for cricket - it is a religion over there.  Look what happened when the Sri Lankans were attacked in Pakistan - no more international cricket there.  The BCCI, despite the clout it has, will be very mindful of this and I’d wager my house, your house, and every house in Australia that the security will be superior for the cricketers than it will for the Commonwealth Games.

      As for the IPL players not boycotting India…it’s a job mate, people get paid to do them, and some of them involve danger.  Athletes aren’t getting paid a fortune to compete.

    • Matt says:

      10:12am | 22/09/10

      1) its much easier to protect one cricket team and staff then all the athletes/staff/spectators/officials at a comm games

      2) the last ipl was moved to south africa because of security reasons

    • Errol says:

      08:41am | 22/09/10

      As someone who once lived in Hamilton, Canada, yes, the games should have gone there. Its a beautiful, friendly city - and not a terrorist in sight!

    • Sheedy's Left Foot says:

      09:05am | 22/09/10

      The cricketers are there so are they tougher or more foolhardy than that athletes and swimmers?

      Also given London’s history of terrible terror attacks over the last 3 decades is it safe to assume the athletes and swimmers will be boycotting London?

      Thought not, so why will they go to London and not India?
      London’s trains dont run on time, London has huge spocial issues, inequalities, London has huge crime, if you look herd enough you can probably find TB, Dengui (sp?) fever and a million other issues…

    • EM says:

      11:41am | 22/09/10

      Not really the same situation mate, given that the UK Police and Army are second to none while the Indian Police and Army are better than none…

      I’ll back SO19 and the SAS to protect me any day over the corrupt and incompetent dross in India, mate.

    • Sheedy's Left Foot says:

      01:27pm | 22/09/10

      I have every faith in the British police, military and intelligence organisations, however I am not sure that the victims of IRA bombings, or of the 7/7 attacks would concur. I am sure Jean Charles Menenzes thought he would be protected by S019 too.

      London is more high profile as are the olympics, so I really am interested in why London, Madrid or even New York would be considered safer than Delhi. Whilst Delhi may be a theoretically easier target, London would be a far more attractive target to terrorists given the UK’s participation in illegal wars and the radicalisation of many in the UK’s Islamic community.

      Fully expect an Aussie boycott of London or any other venue where there is a high terror threat. Looks like we will be staying at home for the forseeable future…oh hang on what about the terror threat to Australian sporting venues by those islamic nutcases?

    • Sean says:

      10:13pm | 22/09/10

      Could it be that can walk across in London bridge without it caving in? Or maybe, view an event without the ceiling caving in? Get your hand off it! If you think it’s such a great place, why don’t you go live there?

    • Gregg says:

      09:07am | 22/09/10

      As for the quality of construction, a lot depends on the quality of concrete and when footage a couple of weeks back showed women using hand scoops to load a Concrete Mixer I thought then ” who’s counting the scoops to get the right mix and where’s that concrete being used! ”

    • SriGuru says:

      09:34am | 22/09/10

      Cancel the games. Affirmative.

      In the past 60 years, modern Indians have been incapable of electing “a government” that promotes that country, their original tradition and values. This makes the 200 million+ educated middle-class of India migrate abroad and forget living in India. One dynasty has so much hold on that country with its family, its party, its way of glorious inefficiency and heights of corruption, unwanted values for the past 60 years that these have become the norm and a disease. The latest symptom of this disease is one Indian man being the official head, but one Italian woman dictating affairs with her family interests ruling over that nation’s interests.

      Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was surely a great soul (=Maha atma). But he was a saint amongst politicians and a politician amongst saints. The current leaders in power are the “opposite of what real saints are”; clearly they need a bridge over their own troubled consciences.

      Any surprises that the bridge collapsed? Better to be warned early than late. As for the IPL, that was professionally run by a private body. The lack of honesty or the complete absence of it due to the current government in India beggars all description. Failure is the default option unless they do something exceptional.

      Better some other venue instead of India.

    • AB says:

      07:58pm | 22/09/10

      Your name suggests that you are an Indian but I seriouly doubt it. Thank God you are not living in India. I agree with the corruption and other problems in India. Name a thing you have done for India apart from running from there like a coward. India can do without cowards like you, who do not leave a single opportunity to condemn India. What you are doing is expected of people like you. I am not saying that you should be defending the sham like this. Someone has said very well if you can’t speak anything good about anyone, better be silent. Speach is silver Silence is Golden.

    • Andrew says:

      09:57am | 22/09/10

      I know there is a lot of emnity between Pakistan and India but if the Indians want the games to go ahead without a hitch all they need to do is call the Pakistan cricket team in…...they can fix anything!

    • Joey says:

      11:36am | 22/09/10

      More jokes like this please…makes me smile at work smile

    • Susan says:

      10:01am | 22/09/10

      I agree on pulling the pin.  This is a mess and it is not worth the risk.  From all I know - and I have been told this by Indian diaspora directly also by the way - India works on bribery.  it’s just the cultural way of doing business so, WHY did anyone think they could cut across that in developing the sites etc for these games.  India feels locked in the colonial era at this time and is simply unready for this sort of large scale international event.  The games need to be canceled and THEN a large reckoning on the money and of course India may have borrowed to fund their games development.  How much should the world support that debt when India itself has failed to meet what it bid for?

    • Narayan says:

      11:11am | 22/09/10

      @ harry, its the media mate, its the same everywhere, read this article and you will see not every journalist in India is of the same opinion as far a the CWG are concerned.

      I was born in India, and i think India should never have been allowed to host the games, not just due to terror risks but a whole heap of other economical reasons like, helping slum dweller, extremly poor farmers and the list is endless. The article states how poor the construction is not just a the village but the rest of the city.


      http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/randomaccess/entry/cwg-yawning-gap-between-concept-and-execution

    • TravelToIndia says:

      11:13am | 22/09/10

      I’m heading to India in a month wohoo! cant wait to go travelling and love the idea of experiencing a country like India that is so different from our own. I have read the warnings and will be cautious but that is not going to stop me - should we never leave our homes for risk of terrorism?

    • Wayne says:

      11:17am | 22/09/10

      I am really looking forward to the main events at the Commonwealth Games. I cannot wait to see who will win the gold medals for such events as “Kill a Westener”, “Blow up a Hilton Hotel”, “Dodge a Falling Stadium” etc. If the death toll is below 50 I will be impressed.

    • Alan says:

      11:32am | 22/09/10

      According to everybody’s logic here, we would be crazy to ever travel to the United States again, as it is the site of the world’s worst terrorist attack ever. Everyone should take a chill pill and stop over reacting. There was huge concern in South Africa for the 2010WC with talk about the car jackings and terrorist attacks and in the end the biggest problem was that horn. Sure there are problems, but they too will be overcome.  I find the attitude of some Australians very condescending toward a country that is actually responsible for buying a lot of Australia’s minerals and fueling this nations prosperity.  I bet you if god forbid there was another terror attack on the London tube shortly before the London olympics, everyone would be saying “Let’s not give in to these terrorists”. Yet for India we say let’s pull the pin.

    • ST says:

      02:38pm | 22/09/10

      Very well said Alan… India is Australia’s 4th largest trading partner…

      Tori is typical gut less Australian journalist who enjoys making fun of other’s misery. I feel sorry for her she has to make a living out of it as she is incapable of getting a real job – what a loser she is.

      Monsoon arrived quite late in Delhi this year & it’s been raining like hell… washing out the genuine effort to finish games preparation – I truly agree they should have finished building work earlier.

      On preparedness for 2008 terrorist strike in Mumbai – well who was prepared? was New York Prepared? was London prepared? was Germany prepared during Munich Olympics? Tori that is the nature of terrorism… If you can’t report logically & truthfully then leave this job for other who can do well.

      Now here comes true test of un-biased journalism - lets see if this comment gets published.

    • James says:

      12:14pm | 22/09/10

      I had to laugh when I heard on the news this morning that some athletes (or officials) had to clean their own toilets on arrival at the games village

      ... the poor little darlings.

    • Greg B says:

      12:15pm | 22/09/10

      Indians make a great curry and are very friendly people, but they are incredibly difficult to do business with and bribary and scamming is a way of life. They want to appear organised and modernized but the fact remains that millions of them live in disgraceful poverty,  and they will tread over their own starving mother to make a quick buck. These games have so far only done 2 things - firstly it has put the spotlight on the still very present and horribly poor people of Delhi. Secondly it has lifted the lid on the widespread corruption and exploitation of the abovementioned poor, which clearly demonstrates the reason as to why India is STILL a backward, third world pit of a country.

    • Jim says:

      12:25pm | 22/09/10

      The trouble, Tory, is that India has perfected playing the race-card, and are usually the first group to use it. If the games governing body had gone with Hamilton there would have been cries of racism from the sub-continent. As more athletes question the security and basic hygiene of the village then there will be more accusations of racism. It’s second nature to them.
      Personally, it doesn’t bother me what they say, but no group involved in these games will make the call to pull out - because as we all know, even though the inevitable ‘racism’ claims will have no basis whatsoever, the media will report it like it has merit.

    • Elle says:

      12:37pm | 22/09/10

      This whole situation is becoming more and more awkward and sad. On one hand, the media often blows concerns such as those surrounding these games out of proportion - I recall a lot of criticism and warnings of disaster before the China and Greece Olympics, and the South Africa World Cup. It could be that nothing happens, but terrorism really isn’t something you want to be cavalier about. What stands to be lost if it does occur is just not worth the risk.
      I have never been to India but I have been to another developing country in Asia and things like general safety, building safety standards, traffic management and emergency services that we take for granted are either hugely lacking or completely chaotic. If something did happen in India during the games all those things would impact upon hindering response. Throw in thousands of extra people and yeah, I wouldn’t want to go.

    • Anthony says:

      12:47pm | 22/09/10

      India is indeed a fascinating place and has many friendly people. This isn’t about that though, it’s about the totally maladroit, incompetent and corrupt administraion that India has.

      It’s about the fact that South Africa ran a World Cup (a bigger event than the Commonwealth Games) and India can’t even get buildings finished on time.

      @James - it’s not about “cleaning the toilets” - it’s about having to literally shovel human excrement off the floor.And even if it was a bit of cleaning - it’s not acceptable to hold an international event and not have it cleaned.

      India will never be a “superpower” until Indians wake up to themselves and do something about the bribery and corruption and take responsibility for their actions.

    • Jared says:

      02:33pm | 22/09/10

      Ummm, what’s the problem?

      Terrorism can happen any place at any time, as what was seen with the bombing which took place at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics.  You can live your life wrapped in cotton balls, or you can go out there and enjoy your life. 

      Secondly, regarding the DFAT warning, the Australian Government has issued a warning to avoid any non-essential travel to Indonesia including Bali, but how many Australians are actually considering that warning? Same with Thailand!

      I am also sick of hearing these people referred to as 3rd world.  India just so happens to have the largest middle-class of any country in the world.  Sure, it’s developing, but the term ‘third world’ is thrown around by uneducated people who have no idea of it’s correct usage. 

      Athletes should make a decision to get on with their job, and the ill-informed losers open your minds and stop making an assumption of what you imagine things are like in India.

    • Craig says:

      06:49pm | 22/09/10

      So I guess we’re imagining the bridge collapse and the collapse of the weightlifting venue…

    • Isaac Prasad says:

      02:53pm | 22/09/10

      What a disgrace, If only India spent less money on trying to be a super power, majority of it’s people would be living in better conditions with a decent meal everyday. Money could be better spent on improving the infastructure of the country and cleaning the whole place up. Who made the decision to have the games there and was bribery involved. What a farce!!!!!

    • Cuppa says:

      03:13pm | 22/09/10

      I almost fell out of my chair laughing when i read that Indians consider their country a superpower.Are you kidding?Their security forces look like poor quality cannon fodder from the first world war & their cities are overpopulated & filthy dumps full of the some of the most racist dishonest people in the world.The comm games are a disaster waiting to happen in the hands of these people.

    • Rjoja says:

      03:26pm | 22/09/10

      I spent 2 years in India for work.  I, for one, cannot imagine whatever possessed the Commonwealth Games Federation to appoint Delhi to host these games. It is morally wrong to allow a country with millions of poverty stricken people sleeping on the streets and in every drain and dumpsite you can think of, to spend USD$6b to fund these Games. Doing so erodes the very spirit of the games and in my view, makes the Games Committee complicit in India’s shame of poverty. I also do not understand why everyone is now so surprised at the shambles the CWG Village is in. This is INDIA! When has anything in India ever been built on time, up to requisite standard and within budget?  As a basic fact of life in Delhi -  clean drinking water is a premium luxury. And even the water from distilled water bottles,  which you have to use to brush your teeth, can be tampered with.  I came away from India, with prolonged bouts of Jardia, inflammatory bowel disease, continual viral attacks, cold sores, flu, and finally, a seriously painful bout of Dengue Fever. One thing Lalit Bhanot (CWG Delhi’s Organising Committee Chairman) is right about - The west has its own standards which are not India’s standards. And guess whose standards will prevail? Good Luck Guys!

    • JohnF says:

      04:24pm | 22/09/10

      Gee, we love to be paranoid and panic-stricken, don’t we.  Not much different from some Indians, actually.  The sensible ones among us—Australians and Indians—refuse to go to water.  I remember just taking sensible note of DFAT advisories before my visits to Zimbabwe in 2000 and 2004, while many other Australians planning Zim trips back then wet their pants and cancelled.  We’re so like the Americans—after 9/11, just about all of them cancelled their 2002 travels, yet it was probably the safest year of any for them to leave home. Sure, something bad might happen in New Delhi. I might get hit by a terrorist bus-driver tomorrow, too.

    • Shane says:

      05:01pm | 22/09/10

      I can never get over the whole “Indians calling Australians racist”. News Flash to New Delhi. Every country is racist, oh yes, EVEN India. At least here in Australia we don’t have corruption to the same levels, ingrained into the very roots of our society. Talk to ANYONE in ANY industry about the reality of doing business in India and you’ll uncover stories of how bribery is just part and parcel of the only way to get anything done. Then while your company is building its shiny new head office in Mumbai or New Delhi after paying off everyone and his uncle, you’ll turn up to view the construction and see 8 year old kids carrying bricks around. OK India, point the finger at yourselves for a few decades please.

    • susan says:

      06:18pm | 22/09/10

      And if the alleged collapse of the roof of a weightlifting venue is true…it IS time to say….goodbye Commonwealth Games, 2010.  Two collapses suggests these buildings are just not safe.

    • JoeyJoJo says:

      07:11pm | 22/09/10

      Roof collapsng? Apprently a couple tiles have fallen off that’s all.

    • Jerry says:

      07:39pm | 22/09/10

      Mark my word guys delhi will give the world the best ever commonwealth games ever starting from 3 rd oct and then everyone indian will laugh .

    • Jim of the Parade says:

      08:02pm | 22/09/10

      With immense corruption and cutting corners in Indias construction industry,with 60 % of homes without a flush toilet,why did Commonwealth games think the structures required for such an event would be up to standard ?? Hygeine is questionable at best in India ,with Al Quada and the Taliban entrenched next door,and the easy availability of Chemicals and weapons all over the country and with security forces and an intelligence network as poor as it is PULL THE PIN NOW !!!

    • Bob Patten says:

      08:11pm | 22/09/10

      There are many risks that the athletes face:

      1) Safety: Collapsing structures - bridges, ceilings, more to come?
      2) Security: Recent terrorist attacks in Delhi, multiple warnings from most reputed security agencies around the world, poor preparation as evident by the Channel 7 sting etc.
      3) Hygiene: Lack of proper facilities - CGF found human excrement in apartments, defecating in the open apartment grounds by the workers, stagnant water surrounding the buildings breeding mosquitoes (dengue fever, malaria) .... the list goes on.

      Why should we send our athletes to this scam show? I say boycott it. I feel sad for the general population in India. They have been scammed big time but that is their internal matter and let them go to peace with it.

    • Mao says:

      08:30pm | 22/09/10

      I prefers the Indian country sides than the cities during my backpacking days. Simply villagers were more honest and hospitable than the city dwellers. I got a great culture shock when I saw the extremely rich in their air-conditioned chauffeured car smoking cigars next to poorest of the poor burning rubbish to cook their food on the busy city street.  2.3 billions dollars should be spent on the Indian people’s welfare and education than in this dodgy comm game.

    • CHN says:

      09:14pm | 22/09/10

      Leave the games alone…that’s what the athletes and their families have been waiting for…

      Excess concerns on politics, ideology, culture differences and races will bring more frictions to our society…and also possibilly stop such games at the end…

      No one is perfect. It’s easy to point finger to someone else. However, in the meantime, the rest four fingers are pointing to yourself.

      I’ll support India for this time. At least their people has showed their willness to get involved in the big sports events.

      I believe no one will be interested to talk about Delhi’s slums after the games.

    • Louise says:

      09:22pm | 22/09/10

      Given how structures and buildings are collapsing before they even reach low capacity use I think anyone would be dumb to contemplate going there.  I like the idea of keeping alive and limbs intact.  Think I will wait til the next games please.

    • Michael says:

      09:37pm | 22/09/10

      I will be traveling to Delhi and other Indian cities next week, although I won’t be attending any games venues.  Some of my friends think I’m a bit mad.  I have read DFAT’s advice and know the region’s political history and realise recent terror attacks have occurred.  DFAT’s advice is biased towards caution and currently the advice says to exercise a high degree of caution, but not to reconsider travel or outright not to travel at all.  What to do?  Travel insurance won’t pay out a single cent as there is no “do not travel” advice.  But what price is an injury or even one’s life?  Chances are games venues and the expected crowds will be tempting targets for terrorists, and that avoiding them decreases chances of harm.

    • Paul says:

      10:31pm | 22/09/10

      Like any country the people of India are in general a friendly kind people, I have no more of less respect for the people than i do my fellow Australians. Sadly the reality is that India as a country is a shambles that is riddled with corruption, poverty and disease. They were asked to Host the games and have had almost 7 years to prepare and step up to the plate. They have failed and this is no real surprise. They have proven time and again that the Country does not have the ability to provide the construction quality or security required to host an International event. This is not a racist slur but merely a reality check. It is sensible at this point to cancel the games before an embarassment become a disaster. I’m sure if we ask the Canadians nicely they will be ready host the event before the year is out.

    • Paul B says:

      10:33pm | 22/09/10

      The Commonwealth games are a pathetic joke where the main countries Canada, Uk, and Australia are made to look good and successful in a way that cannot be achieved in the Olympic games against the rest of the world.
      Don’t only ditch the Delhi games just ditch the whole concept in favour of another world games where the whole world gets to compete. The sooner Australia becomes a republic and shrugs the colony look the better. And as for India as a venue for such an event what were they thinking?

    • matt says:

      11:38pm | 22/09/10

      Not meaning to get off topic, but I have to ask the question…is the caption under the photo meant for that photo? And if so where did they set off the pyrotechnics?

    • Don P says:

      08:05am | 23/09/10

      Matt, I think “pyrotechnics” was used here in sarcasm. The picture is supposedly that of a car in which an explosive was allegedly planted outside a mosque in some part of Delhi.

      Related news at NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/world/asia/20delhi.html

    • Don P says:

      08:01am | 23/09/10

      Did anybody notice the $50K Rolex watch on that Bahnot’s hand during the conference?

    • Youdy beaudy says:

      07:36am | 24/09/10

      I find it hard to believe that the Indian Government can’t build and finish these preparations when they have had 6 years to do so. 6 years is plenty of time, Australia did it in 4 for the Olympics, why not India when they have a giant labor force at hand. I hope that the structures that they have built to house the competitors and officials from around the Commonwealth don’t collapse like the bridge that fell over. Terrorism shouldn’t be a problem if they have tight security, after all it won’t be the average Indian person who can afford to attend and will be affordable mainly for the higher caste peoples who have more wealth. I wish them good luck tho and hope it turns out well.

    • X says:

      11:33pm | 27/09/10

      What India lacks and needs badly is people with project management skills.

      It seems their preparations have no planning, no monitoring, no contingency plans, and no responsibility delegation.

 

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