Note: Labor MP Richard Marles and Liberal MP Sophie Mirabella are among our favourite contributors to The Punch, and we have asked them to write a piece every Friday during this five-week election campaign giving their take on events.

Shortly after they met this duck was stripped of its penalty rates and now works on a show called Hey Hey It's Every Day

On Tony Abbott’s ascension to the Liberal Party leadership, conservatives across the country breathed a sigh of relief that their Party had been returned having been on loan for two years to two leaders who’d grown up wanting to be Labor politicians.

Tony Abbott has always wanted to be seen as a conviction politician.

And he’s delighted in putting his beliefs on show. He has told us that workplace reform was one of the greatest achievements of the Howard Government and only the phrase workchoices is dead not its intent. He has reassured us that a bad boss is a bit like a bad husband – he tends to do more good than harm. And he has emphatically declared that climate change is crap.

Liberal Party HQ fashioned their man as being firm in his beliefs with the courage to act on his convictions: real action.

The one problem with this plan is that Tony Abbott’s convictions are just too extreme. They may be sincerely held. They may be passionately argued. But they simply do not represent the views of mainstream Australia.

And for the Liberal Party that’s the rub.

Enter Tony Abbott the politician. The man who says that Workchoices is dead and buried. The man who signs a contract to that very effect.

Tony the politician is prepared to spend more than $3billion on his direct action plan on climate change when he doesn’t for a minute believe that climate change is happening. Has any leader ever spent so much money in contradiction of his own beliefs?

Tony the politician is also the man who, despite a lifetime of voting against stem-cell research, now attends a lunch sponsored by a stem-cell research company.

Yet in turn the problem for Tony the politician is that he is starting to really annoy Tony the ideologue who appears to have no interest in taking these eleventh hour conversions lying down. You get the impression that Tony the ideologue thinks there’s only room for one Tony inside Tony Abbott.

Choosing an extreme ideologue to lead a mainstream party was always going to be interesting. But the internal battle it has unleashed inside Tony Abbott’s brain is nothing short of spectacular.

Thomas Jefferson most famously described the internal contest that can occur between the head and the heart. How he would be captivated, were he alive today, by the extraordinary contest which is being waged inside Tony Abbott.

In the last few days Tony Abbott’s internal dilemma has become almost compulsory viewing.

Be it the way he speaks, or the way he squirms when interviewers invite him to support the worker, every time he goes on TV with a view to denying Workchoices he enlivens it and animates it brighter than ever.

When Tony Abbott declared on day one of the campaign that he would give Labor’s Fair Work Act a fair go it was Tony the politician speaking. Yet his utter refusal to rule out changes beyond the next three years was the work of Tony the ideologue.

While Tony the politician is desperately seeking to kill Workchoices, Tony the ideologue follows right behind resuscitating it every time.

And that is why the issue of Workchoices in this election campaign just keeps on keeping on.

Workchoices refuses to die as an issue for the Opposition because despite his head Tony Abbott’s heart just won’t let it.

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    • steve parker says:

      07:32am | 23/07/10

      So, what’s your answer Mr Marles? Let’s have a citizens committee to report back to Gillard on the mood of the people on climate change. Lets have a citizens committee to report back on everything comrade. Give me a break from this pap, please.

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      11:50am | 23/07/10

      “Citizens assembly”!  I fully expect to see Robespierre reincarnated at any moment now.  This is the Federal Election 2010 not the French Revolution (sorry forgot the date!! Oops!)

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      11:59am | 23/07/10

      I would much rather trust Tony Abbott than Julia Gillard any day.  Anyone who spouts about “citizens assembly/committee” should be avoided as a country’s leader at all costs.  That’s a very communist expression and previous posters have warned about Julia’s previous communist party association.  The only people making an issue out of Work Choices is Labor and the Unions and they’ll keep on harping about it right throughout the election period.  Tony needs to be more unequivocal in his responses to questions about Work Choices.  I’ll admit he does sound a bit wavering at times and this is not a good look, Tony.  Keep practicing.

    • mickijo says:

      01:40pm | 23/07/10

      John Howard called us “the Australian People”, Gillard calls us “Citizens”. There is a big difference.

    • John A Neve says:

      02:57pm | 23/07/10

      Steve Parker,
      If you believe in and understand what Democracy is all about?
      You’d welcome a “citizens committee” to report on any thing and every thing that impacted on this nation.

      Sadly, it is weak people like you who do a Pontius Pilate, pay some one to think for you. Then whinge if you don’t agree or they get it wrong.

      You say “give me a break from this pap”, only when you learn to eat with the adults.

    • Brad Coward says:

      03:02pm | 23/07/10

      Mao produced “The Great Leap Forward”.  Gillard came up with “Moving Foward”.  There will be no leaping and nothing will be great !  Citizens, look forward to the Banana Republic that Australia will become if Labor comes up trumps again.

      I wonder, will someone write “Gillard -  The Musical” ?

    • Derfy says:

      08:21am | 23/07/10

      Dick, right or wrong, the Australian people know what the Liberal party stands for. How about you tell the Australian people what the Labor stands for? Or have you forgotten?

    • Oldskool says:

      09:37am | 23/07/10

      Really, what do the Liberal Party stand for?- No such thing as Anthropomorphic climate change (but we will do this direct action thing anyway). Turn back the boats (well unless they’re are not seaworthy), and in the menatime lets not forget that the Liberal Government presided over the greatest amount of immigration the country has ver seen (but we’ll say a ‘small Australia’) The Liberal Party obviously stands for small Government (unless of course they are running it, in which case it becomes the largest Government per capita in Australian history!) . What else do they believe- oh yeah, trhe marrket should decide and private enterprise can do things better (except when it comes to Private health insurance, employee entitlements etc, etc,etc)

      The Labor party stands for egalaitarinism and an equal opportunity for all- show me where the current Governement has not been pretty close to this model!

      You Conservatives, have no grasp on reality- according to Conservatives (only in Australia) there was no GFC!

    • haggis says:

      10:33am | 23/07/10

      erm, anthrpogenic?

    • Mick says:

      11:23am | 23/07/10

      Quite correct Haggis - unless Oldskool (groovy spelling by the way) is trying to put a “human face” on Climate Change…

    • Reg says:

      08:28am | 23/07/10

      The one thing Liberals seem to have in common, is a shallow ability to fully analyze a problem and then come to a conclusion based on the available evidence.

      They are too busy being bloody-minded.

      That anyone would dream of questioning their authority to be the purveyor of high standards, is beyond their comprehension. Naturally I blame John Howard for this but ah hang on, it goes back to Ming as well. 

      It must come as a thunderous shock when people such as Tony Abbott realise there was more to the problem than had ever occurred to them. And so they suffer this mental block because they have wasted the opportunity to expand their mental resources in case they’re ever needed. 

      The sort of thinking that says you don’t need to know anything, as long as you can find it in a book or on the internet. We don’t need vacuous people like that thank you, they have had their opportunity and they blew it. Their avenue for displaying their false modesty becomes Hey Hey it’s Saturday.

    • Jackie says:

      08:30am | 23/07/10

      Try “moving forward” Richard…...............Workchoices is DEAD!

    • Phil says:

      09:09am | 23/07/10

      Jackie, and do you know what, let me just say this, with the greens having the balance of power in the senate, even if the Liberal Government Won the election and wanted to Move Forward Workchoices,  or tinker with any part of it, they cant as they will never get it through the senate.

      Richard knows that but as Richo says, whatever it takes.

      I also think that with any major policies taken to an election a senate should not agree to any backflips. ie. Medicare Rebate, Workchoices etc, therefore if they got serious rather than going with their own political ideologies, it would give a real balance. After all if labor is elected and greens hold balance of power they can do anything. Greens are typically just a more socialist division of the labor party.

    • Erin says:

      08:16pm | 23/07/10

      Actually Phil, There are over 128 areas of “regulation” that a minister can change without needing to go to parliament at all. So if Liberals get in they can make lots of changes without altering the legislation and without going through the senate.

    • Christian Real says:

      10:42am | 24/07/10

      Wayne Fehlhaber
      Good to see you in the blogs, I thought that you must have been too busy either ghost writing for the Fraser Coast Regional Councillor, or that with the Federal election being called you were busily occuppied with the LNP Candidate helping him with his propaganda material.
      Tony Abbott says, workChoices is ‘Dead,Buried and Cremated.
      Wayne does that mean that Tony abbott is going to bury WorkChoices, then go to the trouble of digging it up again, just so he can cremate it, the man just doesn’t make sense with what he says and does..
      After Tony Abbott’s “Don’t believe everything I say” comment on the 7.30 Report interview with Kerry O’Brien how can anyone believe Tony Abbott, and how would anyone know for sure whether his comments that ‘WorkChoices, are dead,buried and cremated” are scripted or unscripted comments, or even the gospel Truth for that matter of fact.

    • Kay says:

      07:54am | 25/07/10

      Erin, the Senate has the power to disallow regulations.

    • Christian Real says:

      06:51pm | 26/07/10

      One of the things that Tony Abbott said during the interview with Kerry O’Brien on the 7.30 report was : “Don’t believe everything I say”
      So Jackie is there any real reason why people would actually believe that ‘Workchoices is Dead”, perhaps only the gullible Liberal supporters like yourself would believe him or anything he says.

    • Joan says:

      08:32am | 23/07/10

      Gillard pips Abbott at the post with her knifing of Rudd,.... the deputy leader who vowed loyalty to Rudd at every opportunity had Rudd knifed removed in just 12 hours, tossed back to Griffith like some road kill to allow unimpeded progress. Nothing can beat that, not even a dead Work Choices

    • Erin says:

      08:18pm | 23/07/10

      Remind me the name of the guy that Abbott replaced as leader… Turnbull? I’m pretty sure there was a knife there somewhere too….

    • Timmo says:

      12:05pm | 24/07/10

      Joan. Get with the programme for gods sake won’t you. You anti Rudd people crucified Rudd on here with the help of the Murdoch punch media. You should all be happy that your comments helped to trash Rudd. Anyhow Rudd didn’t contest the leadership and was quite happy to hand it over. He could have contested it but he knew he probably didn’t have the numbers to win a ballot. So that’s history now.

      So it’s because of the bad press that Rudd has gone and that’s the truth, sad really, and now you have helped put Julia in there. Who did you expect would get the job anyway. She was his deputy and she has also acknowledged his contribution to the country. But it is the bad press in Australia that destroys everything in the end.

      I’m sure they would be dancing in the streets in those good ole liberal suburbs out there but unfortunately having goober at the head of the liberal party is a bit of a downer, and in five weeks the goober will have been well defeated then the dancing will stop and the carnage will begin.The question will be, who is going to be their illustrious leader after goobers defeat in the election. I know, Christopher Pyne, now he’s a real winner, got the right name there for all the good liberal catholics out there, named after the good lord, must be good. Go for him Joan or maybe not. You really need someone you can wind up and let loose on the public. Maybe bring back John Howard, now he’s a real winner. A bit old and burnt out tho. You’ll have to keep thinking of someone good within the Liberal party that can run for the mighty leadership of the leaderless Liberals. Get back to us all when you have someone suitable. Someone who’s not braindead would be good.

    • Christian Real says:

      06:33pm | 26/07/10

      Former Liberal Prime Minister John Gorton rolled in a party room spill by William McMahon, who then became Prime Minister of the Liberal party.
      As for Tony Abbott, who rolled Turnbull in a partyroom spill, Turnbull had rolled Nelson in a partyroom spill = Three Opposition leaders in less than Three years.
      The Liberal Opposition has set a new record by trading in their Leaders on a yearly basis.
      Liberal opposition leader next year,  Hockey ?, Bishop ? or maybe even Robb ?
      Perhaps Turnbull can sneak in for another round as Opposition Leader.

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      08:34am | 23/07/10

      Well , i can’t let this simplistic Labor tinged analysis go without a comment .
      From my hotel’s Website room in New York , i conducted my own polling on the two leaders , Gillard and Abbott , surprisingly they were evenly matched among Australian visitors to the states. Richard Marles places far too much emphasis on the ” Work Choices ” ghost of governments past. Work Choices is dead , buried along with the political ghost of the former Prime Minister.

      Work Choices as an issue , lives only in the minds of desperate Labor M.P.‘s and supporters , flogging away at a horse that died on a political trail a long ways back.

      One thing Richard has neglected to mention in his quotes on ” heads and hearts contests ” is that in the context he has used the Thomason Jefferson
      quote , it does not suit his argument , Jefferson’s quote was in reference to something other than political decisions. Check out the history on the quote Richard. 
      Perhaps in light of Labor’s constant reminders to the electorate on Workchoices , we should start looking a little closer at the Coalition’s Industrial Relations policies instead of listening to Labor’s scaremongering.
      Personally , i don’t think Labor will get much traction on this furphy .

    • Seano says:

      09:01am | 23/07/10

      Abbott helped design work"choices”, he’s on record supporting work"choices” even after the electorate sent his mob packing over it and he can’t get his story striaght on whether work"choices” is dead or not. I think you’ll find there’s plenty of traction.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      09:26am | 23/07/10

      Wayne you obviously haven’t seen the latest polling in Kingston SA a marginal seat that was held by the liberals during the Howard years. The predicted swing is looking like 12 percent against Liberal ;  )
      Mr Pyne being next door might be getting a lil worried hehehe…

      Bring on the Election!!!!!!!!

    • Sirro says:

      09:55am | 23/07/10

      I hope Labor keep beating on about it Seano .... the marginals are gone for you if you do ... people are worried about a declining standard of living from rising utility costs, wholesale government waste (state and federal) and the 300K yearly migrant intake. Workchoices was an issue at the 2007 election. People are smart enough to see a scare campagn from no-hopers with no new ideas when its staring them in the face.

    • Mark says:

      10:23am | 23/07/10

      Gillard help design medicare gold. She is on record as supporting it.

      She supported Latham.

      She accidentally sent a text to Abbott in the last election saying health was too complicated for her.

      Your point was what again?

    • Seano says:

      12:40pm | 23/07/10

      Hardly a scare campaign Sirro. Not when the bloke designed work"choice”, supported work"choices” to the death and had refused to rule it out in any way we can take and admitted liar seriously.

      The libs have a few marginals of their own. Even if you did get all of ours (unlikely) for every one of yours we pick up you need to win two.

      The books have Labor at short odds to win and rightly so. Abbott has not offered a serious alternative. Those smart punters know to steer well clear of Tony Abbot.

    • Ryan says:

      02:02pm | 23/07/10

      @Seano: Labor bleating on about workchoices is great, it makes you look DESPERATE! Why don’t you guys go and rummage through Tony Abbotts trash, maybe you can find something in there to attempt a character assassination on.. oh wait you are probably doing that already how silly of me.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      06:42pm | 23/07/10

      Ryan says:02:02pm; be careful of what you wish for, it might just come back and bite you on the @$$  ; )

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      11:39pm | 23/07/10

      Rob R Charteris :  Well, Rob , maybe thats one for you , but i suggest that you check the polls of marginals in Queensland and West Australia matey , those states will decide the election .
      Medicare Gold and the BER plus all the failed Rudd plans and policies have not gone unnoticed in the electorate , the voters are aware that Gillard signed off on all of the Rudd disasters.
      Like you said Rob , ” bring it on “.
      at least the Coalition if elected ,voters know who will be governing the country , unlike Labor who are Union puppets and the real masters will be the “faceless men ” , not a good prospect Rob.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      12:56pm | 24/07/10

      Wayne Fehlhaber says:11:39pm; btw, WA ain’t looking so great anymore could be another two seats gone ;  )

    • Christian Real says:

      03:01pm | 24/07/10

      Wayne Fehlhaber
      If the coalition is elected as you say, it will be the miners running the Country, not the Liberal coalition government.
      The Miners are already attempting to dictate to the current government on a range of different things.
      But then again the Liberal Government will climb into bed with the miners so that they won’t miss out on the generous donations that the miners always fill the Liberal/National party coffers with.
      You talk about faceless men behind the government, perhaps you should take a look at where the LNP gets there substantial donations from.

    • Christian Real says:

      03:12pm | 24/07/10

      Seano
      It depends whether or not what Abbott has said about WorkChoices being dead, Buried and Cremated is scripted or unscripted statements otherwise it just might not be “The gospel Truth”, but then again Abbott did say also during The 7.30 report interview with Kerry O’Brien “Don’t believe everything I say.”

    • Seano says:

      06:16pm | 24/07/10

      @Ryan - ypur rehtoric fails to refute rthe facts.

      Abbott was an architect or work"choices”.
      Abbott was still supporting work"choices” well after the public rejected it and the government forced it on them.
      Abbott was has vaccillated on whether work"choices” is dead or not.
      Abbott has admitted that he’ll say what ever he has to win an argument and persumably a vote. Therefore he can’t be trusted on his “dead, buried, cremated” stunt.

      Whilst Tony Abbott is leader of the opposition work"choices” is an important issue and pretending otherwise wont change that.

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      12:19am | 25/07/10

      Rob r Charteris :  Hmmm , do you really think W. A. voters will forget the R.S.P.T. that fast Rob ?  I don’t thinkso.  !

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      12:29am | 25/07/10

      Christian Real :  What !  forgotten the donations given to the W.A. A.L.P.from Clive Palmer already Christian ? 

      Leaves your comment looking like a beacon on a hill ,  doesn’t it . ?

      Speaking of “faceless men” , wonder if Paul Howes will put up with the BER rip-off if Gillard wins . ?  Who will he annoint as leader after Gillard is disposed of ?  Swan would be a poor choice , too nerdy.

    • Timmo says:

      08:38am | 25/07/10

      Wayne, I don’t really think that Australians give a damn about politics. Different for Americans. Most Australians aren’t worried about Workchoices unless it applies directly to them but i’m sure they would like to see the cost of living reduced. I think they would like to see some savings in their banks. I think that they would like Governments to quit stealing their hard earned money so they can get ahead in life. And I am sure the ordinary American citizens would too. They would like a better health system, better education for their kids and a bit of truth being practiced by governments. I’m sure that these are the real issues that will be voted for in this election. These are the real issues affecting all the citizens of the world.

      What we have for this election is for the first time a woman running for Prime Minister and this will be very popular on polling day as the Australians will give the woman a go at the top job and will vote her in. Men have been running the country for too long and have made a very large stuff up of it with their big egos, and there are no new ideas for progress coming out of them, it’s just the same ole same ole go nowhere policies.

      Julia Gillard will get in quite easily i’m sure as she will be more progressive for the society in bring change to the old boring attitudes that are in place so the slogan of “Moving Forward” is quite a good one for her. We will have to give her a go or we’ll never know, and that will be a waste of talent which may come forward to make it better for us all. We’ll all know the outcome in 5 weeks.

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      11:28pm | 25/07/10

      Timmo :  Everyone want’s to earn a living at a decent rate but if you think the answer is voting for a skirt , i suggest you think again . Try taking a look at the policies for a change , instead of the leaders . The leaders don’t deliver what you want to gain a decent living standard , the policies of the party are where your focus should be.
      That Labor has failed to deliver anything but misery all around ,can not be denied .  The insulation tragedy , the BER rip-off , the R.S.P.T. fiasco,
      fuel watch , grocery watch , etc etc etc , do you think you are likely to get the style of living you wish for under more of the same from Gillard. ?
      Don’t forget , Timmo , the skirt signed off on all the failed policy and programs alongside Rudd. But if thats what you call good governing , then vote for her , you will deserve what you get.

    • Peter says:

      08:39am | 23/07/10

      We know you and your Paul Howes union mate want to keep workchoices alive, but stop wasting your time and everyone elses and MOVE FORWARD, workchoices is dead and so is your resuscitation attempt.

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      12:07pm | 23/07/10

      They can’t move forward Peter, they are too busy backflipping!

    • iansand says:

      08:52am | 23/07/10

      I love the Liberal fanboy/girl responses to what is a simplistic analysis - produce even more simplistic slogans.

      Sort of proves the point.

    • Kelly says:

      09:19am | 23/07/10

      Workchoices is dead.

    • iansand says:

      09:36am | 23/07/10

      QED

    • Rowdy says:

      09:57am | 23/07/10

      “...produce even more simplistic slogans”....you mean like “moving forward”?

    • iansand says:

      10:41am | 23/07/10

      Rowdy has reduced the election to a contest of fatuity - whose slogans are more simplistic.

      Has anyone seen a policy yet?  From anyone?

    • MarK says:

      03:09pm | 23/07/10

      Yes.

      The greens want to close Lucas Heights, more in the news at 11.

      Oh also Gillard promised she would definitely think about maybe doing something about the environment after the next election in 2013. If that is all right with 150 people. Perhaps. She thinks she might anyway.

      The laugh is the Greens have done a preference deal with a party that has no environment policy.

      BRUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      It is so ironically delicious it tastes like that chocolate and honeycomb ice cream Cadbury make. mmmmmmmmmmmm ice cream.

      Yopu really showed those major parties Bobby Brown didn’t yah. Really stood up for the environment pal. What a waste of space.

    • Seano says:

      05:48pm | 23/07/10

      “Workchoices is dead.”

      But Tony Abbott isn’t therefore Work"Choices” lives!

    • Christian Real says:

      03:23pm | 24/07/10

      Kelly says
      “WorkChoices is dead”, and so are the Liberal party at this election, it does seem odd that ‘Liberal MPs are airbrushing Tony Abbott from their campaign material admid concerns the Opposition Leader is a turnofff with some voters”
      This is from a news story in News.com.au “Why tense Liberals are airbrushing Tony from election material.”, written by Steve Lewis and Simon Benson, from The Daily Telegraph.”, on July 20,2010 @ 12.00AM

    • Nathan says:

      08:54am | 23/07/10

      Richard, can you make a promise, sighn a contract even to state the Labor will NEVER EVER make any amendments to the Fair work Act or Regulations within the next 100 years? No? didn;t think so.

    • Rosie says:

      09:08am | 23/07/10

      Thank you Wayne, nothing more to add but it now seems that the party that was elected in 2007 for what was promised to the people of this nation has somehow disappeared into oblivion. After the appointment of Gillard by the Union Powers it now seems that the elected PM Rudd’s time in Govt never existed, even more so because now we have Johnny Howard Julia trying to lead this country forward. Don’t blame Tony Abbott for making this election a no nothing election when Abbott is trying his hardest to change a bad Govt that have admitted it lost its way.

    • Brad Coward says:

      03:07pm | 23/07/10

      Kind of reminds me of George Orwell’s “1984”.  The past is whatever Labor tells you it is.  And you had damn well better believe it….or it’s off to the gulags !

    • Liam says:

      06:55pm | 23/07/10

      I love it when people like Brad Coward bring out 1984 in an attempt to show that they are learned.
      At no stage have the Labor Party moved to restrict the press or rewrite history. A new PM moving away from the policies of the former PM is hardly Big Brother.

    • Bazza says:

      09:23am | 23/07/10

      Even Gillard can’t say she won’t make changes to the fair work act, so why do you expect Abbott to say never ever? Labor are already looking at changes to the fair work act regarding min hours for school age children in the work place. Oh by the way WorkChoices is dead!

    • Tammy says:

      09:46am | 23/07/10

      Richard move forward away from Abbott and Work Choices to helping Julia do her dirty work on Climate Change instead of sending the issues to a “People’s Assembly”

    • Joan says:

      11:44am | 23/07/10

      “People’s Assembly” ? WOW this sounds like something straight from Gillard`s Socialist Forum handbook. Clueless Gillards Labor after 3 years in office with massive resources have no real policies, just promises of conversation, dialogue, and manipulative language to excuse and justify lack of real policy- this is all they have for the people of Australia after three years in government.and a debt growing every day.  Tragic -and the media give Gillard a free ride she doesn’t deserve.

    • Reg says:

      04:16pm | 23/07/10

      Oh Joan, don’t you know that the National Socialists were violently anti-Communist? A sixty-four word breathless paragraph suggests you don’t.

      Since you’re obviously opposed to consultation, the only remaining avenue is authoritarianism which fits in very well with your National Socialist agenda. And here’s me thinking you were a Liberal.

    • Joan says:

      12:02pm | 24/07/10

      Reg I do believe you are the confused person I`m talking about the Socialist Forum group Gillard belonged to in her Uni days ... about 70 members had communist membership background. Gillard has certainly hid it well and doesn’t broadcast that her political ideals originate here. I believe she was secretary- perhaps someone else could enlarge upon this.

    • Paul says:

      10:04am | 23/07/10

      Jackie: Workchoices is dead only under the first term of an Abbott government. That’s what Abbott said. Then again, never trust a politician. Howard also said a GST was dead, then shazam! GST! Maybe Abbott will keep his word, maybe he won’t. I’m betting he won’t.

      Derfy: of course we know what the Liberals stand for: a conservative, small-minded, xenophobic, homophobic, white Australia.

      I agree that Labor is flopping all about like a dead fish, and these citizen’s assemblies are a stupid idea, but I do NOT want an Australia run by the 3 stooges of Abbott, Bishop and Hockey.

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      12:17pm | 23/07/10

      ......and I do NOT want an Australia run by the stooges of Gillard, Swan and the - oops wrong way around…...unions, Gillard and Swan!

    • Terry says:

      08:38am | 24/07/10

      In regards to the White Australia policy, the Protectionist Party introduced it into parliament in 1901 by the first Prime Minister Edmund Barton. The White Australia policy was from a movement that started in 1850 by the miners (not the Liberal) and was abolish on March 1966 by the Harold Holt Government which was the LIBERAL government.

    • JC says:

      10:51am | 26/07/10

      Paul - I agree with you. I will still choose a government that does a mediocre job of taking us in a positive direction over one that is ruthlessly efficient at taking us down the path of bigotry. I think Labor have made some mistakes, but they are clearly the party of a progressive and tolerant society. Unfortunately I believe that these days the Coalition stands for the xenophobic. I’m not going to insult people and say they are ‘stupid’ for voting one way or the other. Obviously there are intelligent and unintelligent people on both sides of the fence. But it is clear what fundamentals underly each party. Although I’m an atheist, I was raised with Christian values of compassion and tolerance. This is what leads me to generally support the left.

      Terry - yes you’ve made a good point and thank you for making it, however I would say that the Liberal party of 1966 does not resemble what they are today. The very fact that what is now a right-wing party is still called the ‘Liberal’ party shows how much things have changed. I would have voted for the Liberals back then.

    • Sirro says:

      10:06am | 23/07/10

      I would love to actually see a concrete policy from one of these Labor wasters like Richie boy.

      It seems the best any of them can come up with is a hopelessly biased critique on Tony Abbott and a “Workchoices Workchoices” sound grab for the nightly news.

      99% of the guff that Julia has come out with in the last month has been touchy feely non-action spin.

      That rubbish that masquerades as an education policy the other day is a great example. Most of it actually exists and is already in place and has been for some time.

      GP “Superclinics” yeah!  Has she not ever been to a Medical Centre?  There is one in pretty much every suburb.

      Opening 300 odd childcare centres?  Why did they not simply take over ABC learning for pretty much nothing when it collapsed if it was a policy that meant anything to them. In any case managing to open 5 or something in 3 years is a FAIL.

      Richard ..the biggest failure in Australian politics in the past 3 years has been Labor.  Get your own house in order and give us a return on what you guys have promised previously before you start your BS about anyone else.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      10:29am | 23/07/10

      Sirro says:10:06am; yes and you conveniently forget the Rudd government propped up ABC for several months after it collapsed. This was after Howard poked in $150 million of taxpayers’ money into it while ABC went around and muscled its way into every childcare centre around the country. replacing staff with young inexperienced barely out of high school teenagers. It was stupid of the Howard government to allow that to happen. ABC treated the industry as McDonalds treats the fast food industry. It made a mess of the whole industry. ABC’s service got so poor I had to pull my son out of them.

    • Sirro says:

      10:43am | 23/07/10

      Again and again, diversion from the true issues.

      Labor does 5 mins of work ..trots out 1/3 of a policy and then claims the high ground with the old Howard / Abbott / Workchoices are to blame.

      Take some responsibility.

      In regard to ABC Learning ... my kids have always loved going there (last 5 years) and I find most of the staff excellant. I have no doubt Eddie Groves was a crook and his contribution was poor but my point is that rather than just propping the collapsed company up to avoid an obvious crisis, it was a great opportunity to deliver on a promise. This is actually something the government SHOULD be involved in. Labor have turned a good idea into another failed delivery.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      02:16pm | 23/07/10

      Sirro says:10:43am ; 5 years eh’ so you don’t know what the industry was like before your mate Eddie got his crooked hands on it. I’m sure it has been run better over the last three. In fact you would have benefited from Kev propping it up…. hmmm interesting.

    • Iris says:

      04:07pm | 23/07/10

      It hasn’t been Seano. Believe me mate, I’ve worked in childcare for almost 20 years and the last 3 years have been horrific… that’s not an endorsement for Howard either but comparing the two former PMs in relation to childcare Howard is the clear winner (though not great)

    • Sirro says:

      04:40pm | 24/07/10

      All this workchoices noise has clearly made you silly Rob.

      Eddie Groves is a crook as stated before ... certainly not my mate.

      No benefit personally from Kev and Julia propping ABC up. I pay the whole fee and do not recieve any benefit like many people as my family doesnt receive FTB part A or B. Yes I can afford it and im happy for those who cant to be subsidised.

      As per the rest of the economy Labor couldn’t run a chook raffle at the local footy club mate. The whole reason is that the party is owned by the Unions who only desire power, and the Lefty Latte set who constantly kid themselves about world peace and social justice.

      Good luck getting into the Climate Change focus group buddy.

    • Nicole says:

      10:08am | 23/07/10

      Richard, the only reason WorkChoices keeps rearing it’s ugly head is because you and your Labor buddies continuously bring it back to life. Now repeat after me ‘WorkChoices is dead’. Don’t ‘Move Forward’, ‘Mover Over’ and make way for the Liberal party.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      10:32am | 23/07/10

      Nicole says:10:08am; I think you can blame Abbott for opening his big mouth on that one.

    • DeadMyAzz says:

      10:35am | 23/07/10

      Workchoices is so dead they are already saying they will change the laws to tax the Unions . Sheer spite and if they can change it for that they change it for anything. Tony Abbott is a liar and so is the rest of the Abbott family

    • Jennie says:

      10:41am | 23/07/10

      DeadMyAzz - workchoices is dead.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      11:12am | 23/07/10

      Jennie says:10:41am; With the way Abbott has been harping on about it up until two weeks ago it isn’t dead, it’s only sleeping due to his populist sound bites his whole campaign is based on. If he gets in office he’ll be riding the “WorkChoices” thoroughbred wearing his budgie smugglers you can be sure of that

    • Seano says:

      01:35pm | 23/07/10

      Actually Nicole, as Work"Choices” was sprung on workers the first time it’s perfectly reasonable for workers to fear one of the architects of Work"Choices” springing another surpise. Especially when Abbotted can’t get his story straight on whether Work"Choices” is dead or not. All voters know for sure with Tony Abbott is they can’t trust him, he said so himself.

    • Nicole says:

      04:37pm | 23/07/10

      And Jooolya is extremely trustworthy Seano. Just ask Rudd. I don’t recall Abbott ever saying we can’t trust him. Please point me in the direction where I can find this declaration.

    • Christian Real says:

      03:45pm | 24/07/10

      Nicole says
      “I don’t recall Abbott ever saying we can’t trust him.”
      Funny Nicole, one of the comments Abbott made on the 7.30 Report interview with kerry O’Brien was : “Don’t believe everything I say.”, but then again it’s uncertain if his comment was scripted or unscripted or even the ‘Gospel Truth ‘
      It is reasonable enough to say that he can’t be trusted.

    • Seano says:

      11:33am | 25/07/10

      ‘‘I know politicians are going to be judged on everything they say but sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark.’‘

      Tony Abbott 7.30 Report March 17, 2010

      Always happy to help Nicole.

    • Andrew says:

      10:18am | 23/07/10

      Gillard is doing a great job on policy’s, boder protection policy? ummm still waiting, climate change policy? ummmmm we’ll do something oneday after we have another talk fest. What a disgrace if this is the best a PM can put to the Austalian people and expect them to vote for her.

    • MarK says:

      10:31am | 23/07/10

      Oh hai Richard

      563 word opinion piece.

      Use of Workplace reform 2

      Use of WorkChoices 6

      Use of extreme 1

      Use of ideologue 5


      Lets be fair and simplify it

      WorkChoices - say 8

      Ideologue - say 6

      All in 563 words.

      Not that Labor is trying to run a negative campaign or one of fear.

      I keep getting the “stay on target” metallic drone of that Y Wing pilot in the original Star Wars stuck in my head.

      You did well staying on message and boring me senseless to get across the brilliant and new message from a Labor politician that they wish to link Abbott-Ideologue-WorkChoices as a negative campaign thread.

      Thanks.

      Please do come back next Friday when I am sure we can play the “moving forward” game.

      You guys are like wind up toys sent forth by the spimmeisters without an original thought in your head. So sad. Does it get intellectually boring for you doing this “whatever it takes” things at the parties bidding all the time?

      That was a serious by the way .

    • Seano says:

      01:07pm | 23/07/10

      I bet you haven’t performed a similar analysis of Sophie’s post, because only Labor are negative. You’re a hoot as always.

    • MarK says:

      02:52pm | 23/07/10

      So no actual comment on what I wrote. Just toss scorn on the me as the author just…well…just because?

      Nice argument style you negative nancy you.

      Turn that frown upside down mister. It is Friday afternoon after all!!!!

    • Seano says:

      06:07pm | 23/07/10

      No actually I made a comment about how silly this sort of analysis is when you only apply it to one side.

      Ignoring my point doesn’t give you one.

    • steve says:

      10:40am | 23/07/10

      I am sick of Gillard’s “I believe” statement s- she believes in NOTHING and will stop at nothing to pick up some extra votes. I am also sick to death of her trotting out her Mum and Dad, sister and old school chums and the old sepia photo album from Wales and holidays at Billy Butlins. I’m sick of reading about her hard work, her pets and her my little pony and when she started wearing her first trainer bra. Sick of it all - MOVE FORWARD - someone please get rid of her - please. please - I couldnt stand another 3 years of this unmitigated drivel - and that abusive voice - truly it is doing my head in.

    • Ted says:

      11:01am | 23/07/10

      Geez insightful article…...extreme, workchoices blah blah. How much cash have you dusted in 3 years? Go get a job, pay soome taxes and tell me then you think you are good economic managers.

    • N says:

      11:19am | 23/07/10

      “Has any leader ever spent so much money in contradiction of his own beliefs?”
      Sure; Julia committed 16.2 Billion over 3 years to the BER of which, at the very least, 1/3 (5.4 Billion) will flow to religious orientated schools, rather contradictory for an atheist…..

    • Chris L says:

      11:40am | 23/07/10

      N, are you saying it would be ok for her to deny funding to certain schools due to their religous affiliations?

    • N says:

      11:58am | 23/07/10

      Well obviously it would not be okay which is my point entirely. Drawing a direct parallel with your personal belief system (Abbott denying climate change, Gillard denying religion) and the funding associated regardless of those beliefs, is no case for someone who is acting in the interests of the entire nation.

      As a side note, it wouldn’t be such a terrible idea to limit the funding religious schools receive, compared to public schools; the funding provided is heavily in the favour of the former.

    • Reg says:

      04:26pm | 23/07/10

      Belief systems don’t cut it. Tax the unions, I don’t mind, but tax the other belief systems as well. Lets cut away this crafty religious tool.

    • hot tub political machine says:

      11:33am | 23/07/10

      As expected a little partisan but I did think you had a good point about the two aspects of Tony. What other people have called his “thought bubbles” I had begun to suspect was Tony’s heart/conscience coming out. Tony has a strong track record of making a statement and then apologising/disowning it a couple of days later. I suspect that it is indeed either the pragmatist speaking, then the real belief coming out of a guilty conscience because the man genuinely believes something contrary to what is pragmatic. Nothing wrong with believing things that are contrary to the pragmatic – we want that from MP’s. But the guy would probably gain more respect (if not votes) for just saying – this is me – deal with it.

      Also, just a little feedback in the hope the MP actually reads the comments – next time please argue on the inside for a campaign that shows more respect for the electorate. You are talking to us as if we were idiots – in general Aussies have more in common with Raskolnikof from Crime and Punishment than they do with flag wearing bogans from Cronulla. Labor should have a little more faith in us.

    • Joan says:

      12:06pm | 23/07/10

      Give me a thought bubble any day than Gillards knife in the back after preaching loyalty day after day directly to camera on TV.  How about Gillard respect the peoples vote - Labor led by Rudd.  No bone of decency, honour, respect shown to voter by Gillard with the knifing of Rudd. I wonder if she said Sorry to Rudd. I think Rudd is due an apology as are the people of Australia

    • Reg says:

      11:49am | 24/07/10

      Joan again, quite typically for a Liberal you forget that the first loyalty is to the Australian people , not the party.  If your unhappy Liberal flunkies had had the guts to consider the oath they had sworn to the Australian people, John Howard would have been a faint memory long before his recent reduction.

      Their only other avenue was ritual suicide. wink  JH would have made the appropriate sympathetic sounds.

    • Reg says:

      11:50am | 24/07/10

      Joan again, quite typically for a Liberal you forget that the first loyalty is to the Australian people , not the party.  If your unhappy Liberal flunkies had had the guts to consider the oath they had sworn to the Australian people, John Howard would have been a faint memory long before his recent reduction.

      Their only other avenue was ritual suicide. wink  JH would have made the appropriate sympathetic sounds.

    • Hamish says:

      11:50am | 23/07/10

      Richard, this crap may wash with the uninformed and I do believe painting Abbott as a dangerous extremist is probably your party’s best chance of winning. But come on, you and I both know Julia Gillard is just as extreme. Her history of involvement in radical left-wing groups is well documented and she has always occupied a place in Labor’s left faction. She’s a labour movement socialist from way back. you know it and I know it.

      Want to talk about ‘conviction’ politicians compromising for popularity? What about Julia? Asylum seekers? Immigration policy? Climate change? The way Julia’s going her policies will be more conservative than Abbott’s by the time we actually vote. Seriously, when is the Labor Party going to realise that people don’t like being treated like morons.

    • Reg says:

      05:09am | 25/07/10

      A good start would be for you to stop treating them like morons Hamish. You may think you’re informed, (a common right-wing misconception) but other than in the Scottish Highlands, people change and elaborate on their attitude to human relationships and that is what Socialism is about. Certain European countries learned this the hard way and a better Democracy has resulted. Please don’t attempt to tie us to a the vanished hand rails of the 1930s. You and the US Republicans really need to do some work on this. Please try.

    • Pffft says:

      12:44pm | 23/07/10

      Nice to see all the Young Libs drag themselves away from the altar of Tony Abbott just long enough to post meaningless tripe. yay team.
      Abbott is a zealot and a puppet of the far right wingnuts and the mining bovver boys. And if he is elected he WILL bring back Workchoices…maybe not in the first term but the faceless men of the HR Nicholls society will make sure it happens.

    • MarK says:

      01:15pm | 23/07/10

      “and the mining bovver boys.” *snicker*

      Who was it that caved into the 3 largest miners in the world and changed “the elegant tax” that could not afford to have “one hair oin its head touched” that cost us the taxpayers $7.5 billion?

      The answer after the break.

      Oooooops.

    • Reg says:

      01:35pm | 25/07/10

      You mean to say the LARGEST miners in the world don’t have any clout eh MarK?  They’re still sucking at the teat of the Australian taxpayer while plundering our resources and selling it the China for a pittance. They’d import underpaid Chinese workers too if they could get away with it. Then they’ll move on to the next place leaving a vast gaping hole in their wake.

    • Maudie says:

      01:01pm | 23/07/10

      The Liberal Party presided over the largest input of migrants?  What else could happen when Gough Whitlam opened the door to the Arab nations, in such a wide manner.  That was Labor;s doing.  They set in motion something that could not be stopped - against the will of most Australians I would say.  As for the comments about Tony Abbott.  It is interesting that Mark Latham, Labor to his boots, on Television scorched Julia Gillard on a couple of points, one being her apparently crazy idea of forming satellite townships outside of cities.  Of course that is a ridiculous idea.  Where would the industries be and centers of activity to give employment to those inhabitants?  And what would the youth do without being given aspirations of finding work?  Gather in gangs on street corners?  Now Mark Latham did say a wonderful thing about Tony Abbott.  It was that he speaks his mind and that is really what a politician should do.  Julia Gillard speaks - but we never know her mind - what she really thinks and proposes.  You can count on Tony Abbott!

    • Sven Gali says:

      01:03pm | 23/07/10

      Workchoices is an unflushable turd. Fortunately, Abbott will soon be replaced by Hockey.

    • Timmo says:

      09:26am | 24/07/10

      Sven gali, What’s this fortunately business. Now, applying the word to Joe Hockey is a complete misuse of the word.

    • Sven Gali says:

      09:31pm | 24/07/10

      Fortunately, Timmo, because Workchoices will be an even bigger albatross for Hockey than Abbott.

      Perspicaciously, Michael Brissenden called it almost 6 years ago here >

      http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2004/s1230217.htm

      Remember Boswell’s “Open slather” ? Oops, sesame. They were never going to be able to resist, and they’re still a long way from paying off the price of their hubris.

    • Frank says:

      01:08pm | 23/07/10

      WorkChoices is DEAD. I’m not a young Lib.

    • Dick J says:

      01:45pm | 23/07/10

      Gee Mr Marles the whole article is about Tony Abbott nothing about the ALP or Gillard or your policies . Just a scare campaign promulgated by your union masters because after all they run the ALP show.

      Are you guys moving forward yet or just looking over your shoulder . Still lost perhaps.

      Answer this. Do you think the taxpayer should pay for the overseeing of union ballots?

      If yes could you please send over the ATO to do my tax return each year for free and while your at it when my car is in service could I borrow a Commonwealth car .

    • vic says:

      01:59pm | 23/07/10

      If Abbott wins I’ll leave Australia. I would want no association with a Country who’s people willingly vote in a bigoted religious fundamentalist with extreme views on workers and womens rights.
      Tony Abbott is the Christian version of the Taliban.

    • Sirro says:

      02:11pm | 23/07/10

      See you later Vic.

      Could you please take Paul Howes, Craig Emerson and Chris Bowan with you.

    • Ryan says:

      02:20pm | 23/07/10

      @vic: don’t let the door hit you on the way out.. we don’t need yellow bellied crybabies who run at the first sign of something they don’t agree with.

    • N says:

      02:37pm | 23/07/10

      Vic - send me your details mate and I’ll buy you a one way ticket to Saudi Arabia, you can see firsthand the disparity of your statement…..

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      03:44pm | 23/07/10

      @Vic:  Start packing then.

    • Peter Simmons says:

      05:15pm | 23/07/10

      I’ll chip in for the fare if you go to Iran.

    • Gregg says:

      03:02pm | 23/07/10

      How many hard days of real work have you ever been up to Richard?
      You would probably be surprised that there are work places about called open shop, not a Union shop because that’s the way employees are happy to have it, able to put in a rewarding days work without having to look over their shoulder to see who from the Union was watching and no fear of a boss strutting about whip in hand.
      Sure you can get all manner of bosses, various traits and competencies and some real pricks about no doubt just as you can also get likewise with Union officials, too many of whom it seems can gravitate to parliaments.
      When you can get your head around the fact that there is something called financial responsibility that politicians need to have regardless of you never really being head accountable, then you might just be somewhere close to having a good idea of what it is that a politician really has in his head in wanting to do the best by their country.
      Why is it that the likes of you and other Labor loonies can not envisage what endless borrowing will do for public finances.
      Oh, that’s right, Julia is now a fiscal conservative too! and Wayne and you are Me toos as well I hear you say do I?
      If you repeat it often enough just like moving forward, you too can move your own mind forward into disbelief at believing your own promises and that will be some inner turmoil.

    • DD Ball says:

      05:18pm | 23/07/10

      It is merely negative politics for an ALP member to misrepresent what the leader of the Libs is doing, or has done, when clearly no one knows what the ALP has planned, and no one likes what the ALP has achieved. How about some insight as to how the ALP are divided from the top down? Why the slogan with communist chinese associations of the Great Leap Forward? Why was so much stimulus money mis spent when Australia wasn’t going to be subject to the worst of the GFC? Why has Health been said to be reformed when in fact only money is changing hands? How is giving a few notebooks to a few school kids an education revolution .. and why are those notebooks not flagged for their privacy invasion issues? Why won’t the ALP address corruption issues and why is it that no one in the ALP is certain as to who is leading, and need to be told by the ABC?

    • P.M.G says:

      09:39pm | 23/07/10

      Tony Abbott says Climate change is CRAP!...., I will be the next PM!,

      Give tax exemptions to students going toPrivate Schools(forget about the poor students who would love to experience the same advantages of students at private schools).

      Stop the Boats!!! ,,,,,,, the skies are falling!!!! (quoting Henny Penny).

      No way, would I vote for this man into Government!

    • Greg says:

      09:52pm | 23/07/10

      Now thats a great argument Richard and you have spelt out what you stand for. Good use of the space.

    • JJ of SC says:

      09:17am | 24/07/10

      I thought Gillard wanted to move forward! Hard to believe her when all the ALP do is rake up the past.
      JJ of SC

    • Timmo says:

      10:09am | 24/07/10

      So much for all the BLAH BLAH, same ole same ole put here. The Truth will be out soon. Labor under Ms Gillard will be returned and Mr Abbott will be trounced. His Liberal Party looking for blood will stab him and remove him quickly and put in some other cretinous leader.

      What is of interest from many of the Liberal Punters who write here is the Communist theories. Hey, everyone, Liberal anti-commo. people. Have you ever realised that nearly everything in the shops these days is Chinese Communist made. Even those fancy fine wool suits that the Pollies wear are made in Guess Where, CHINA. The Communists own this country economically lock stock and barrel, and it would be interesting to see how many of you Liberal Businessmen and Women make your precious incomes on the back of the Chinese Economy. Come on, own up.!

      Now I wonder who it was that sold out their wonderful,” Protect australia from the commos.” theories. The Communist Government of China. A Government who dictates policies in our country. A Government who has Hundreds of Spies spying on Australian People each day. Yes, You will find all the Liberal Business men crawling and licking the backsides of the Communists. And yes people, these are the real human rights violating communists. You are all a pile of hypocrites if you are anti-communist and yet supporting their economy. I don’t think that the Labor Party is even in the same league as our real Communist trading partners. You Liberal people need to get a new pair of glasses so you can see. Throw the rose colored ones away.

      Yes everyone, the Liberal Party under Howard and Abbott very successfully sold us all out to the Communist Chinese. Anything Australian made anymore?, well maybe a few things. Howard very successfully destroyed the Tobacco Industry, which employed many farmers, the Citrus Industry, which employed many farmers The Milk Industry which employed many farmers. Just a few there. What else Australian did he destroy. Well maybe the Punch Journalists could do a comment on that. That would be interesting. Nothing Australian made any more because of the Liberals who are so pro-Australian. Not. Vote Communist, vote Liberal, isn’t that right!!.

      If you are so frightened of Communism taking over the Greatest Country in the World then why does everybody buy Communist made and not Australian Made. To reject Communism then don’t buy Chinese made and don’t sell our minerals too them, have the guts of you convictions for a change. These Communist Chinese Government people are very very bad and it is known the atrocities they commit and yet Liberal and Labor still support them. What’s the real story here, come on, give us the real truth on these matters, before the election would be good. Hell will freeze over before that happens. The Truth. HA HA HA.

    • Timmo says:

      05:45pm | 24/07/10

      All you liberal chooks still peckin around out there i see, they’re still feeding you well. Hey, Rupert, make sure you close the gate and lock em in when they’re finished peckin, won’t you!. Just won’t do any good with them gettin in the wrong position with their peckin order now, will it.?t

    • Lester Festus says:

      06:23pm | 24/07/10

      Hey, Tony Abbott is far from being a bigoted, religious fundamentalist.  To start off with, no Roman Catholic is a fundamentalist, which is a very evangelical and conservative Protestant one.  As for being bigoted, that is not quite correct.  Rather, the reverse.  He has his views as all have but he is not bigoted - or else he would never be in politics or rise to be Party leader.  As for being religious, every person has a religion - Christian, Catholic or Protestant; Moslem; Hindu; Buddhist, Confuciosis; Christian Science; Communism; Voodooism; Pantheism (witness the Greens); Unionism; Climate Change; Science; Humanism; Idolatry; Paganism; Atheism; Animisim; Himself; Film Stars; Rock Stars; Sport; Drinking; Drugs - you name it.  They are all religions of a sort - something or someone that a person loves above all else and is an ardent follower of same.

    • Bleeding Heart says:

      11:09pm | 24/07/10

      We could look at this another way.
      When Howard was in power the country was controlled by ALP led states which contrived to make the feds look bad.
      Anybody remember Rudd ending the blame game?
      In 2010 we have the ALP as feds all other states bar wa still have ALP led govts but for how how long?
      I reckon that Howard made the ALP states look good now that the ALP are in federally people are starting to see that the ALP arent that much chop in all reality.
      To be fair, Howard bought in Work Choices where there wasnt any real choice, yet the ALP bring in Fair Work which isnt really fair.
      Hard to see which party can claim the moral high ground but this endless carrying on about a policy (work choices) that is deemed dead is very disheartening, Abbott obviously is not “trusted” by the electorate, yet Gillard is by virtue of being a woman and I thought the battle of the sexes was dead!
      Whats the difference in the end?

    • Reg says:

      01:21pm | 25/07/10

      BH a noble attempt to contrive a scenario that left the Labor Party responsible for Howard’s bad image. Unfortunately it was all of his own making despite having the full support of the press. You state emphatically that he had no other choice than to completely revamp the industrial relations act when nothing more than a few minor variations would have been sufficient. We all know where the pressure for WorkChoices came from and they don’t give in easily as long as they have a receptive Liberal government. I think Tony would be their man, head down arse, pliable and accommodating to the end.

    • Amy says:

      12:19am | 25/07/10

      This article, and those like it during the election from both sides of politics, is why the concept of voting for a local representative of a party, rather than the leader of that party, is a completely foreign one to a lot of people in this country.  This article clearly attacks Abbott the man, and barely grazes the concept of the Liberal Party ideals and concepts.  It’s little wonder we have so many people utterly confused about the way our democracy works when this is what we’re fed before during and after a federal election, and are left with so many disgruntled voters, unsure as to who to vote for, lest that leader be knifed and replaced with someone the voters would not wish to lead their country.

    • Christian Real says:

      09:40am | 25/07/10

      richard Marles
      The Liberal party appears to be full of radical religious neo-nazi fundamentalists and fruit loops .
      A story in News.com.au and other online media ; “Revealed: Liberal Candidate David Barker’s anti-Muslin campaign>”, written by Linda Silmalis, sourced from ‘The Daily Telegraph”,  on July 25. 2010 @ 12.00AM
      ” A Liberal candidate has been sprung posting anti-islamic entries on Facebook and has written to church leaders asking for their support against his “strong Moslem” Labor opponent.”
      “The Sunday Telegraph can reveal that Liberal Party officials have forced David Barker,a self-described “man of strong Christian faith”,to shut down his Facebook account after he accused Labor of bringing the nation “closer to the hands of a Muslim country.”
      ” I am going to win this seat. I claim it as mine and when I get in I will give my votes all of them to God who is on the side of the Liberal right,” Mr Barker, the candidate for the western Sydney seat of chifley,says in one entry.”
      ‘Mr Barker, a keen supporter of conservative Liberal powerbroker David Clarke,also accuses non-Christians of :worshipping a false God.”
      * in another paragraph of the story it says :
      ” The extreme views are a serious embarrassment for Opposition leader Tony abbott - described by Mr Barker as “God’s mouthpiece in politics” - and will put pressure on Liberal headquarters to reconsider his endorsement as the party candidate.”
      * In another paragraph of the story it reads:
      ” In a Facebook entry dated April 17, he says: ” I vote for freedom of worship if the worship is of Jesus Christ or The jewish God anyone else well they are worshipping a false God anyway so who cares.”
      “An entry that day reads: “Voting should only be voluntary for Liberal and National voters the rest can not bother since with every vote they bring the nation closer to the brink of disaster and closer to the hands of a (sic) muslim country.”

    • Ryan says:

      01:01pm | 25/07/10

      @Christian Real: oh my, you bunch of Labor backbenchers are looking as desperate as ever, whatever next, you going to accuse Tony Abott of causing the holocast also, he had to have been behind 9/11 and the tsunami too.. pathetic!

    • Christian Real says:

      04:17pm | 25/07/10

      Ryan,
      Desperate, I don’t think so, it would seem that Liberals are unable to accept the truth, they have a “born to rule’ arrogant attitude problem, where they think and believe that they can do no wrong, but are perfect in every way.
      Funny this looney tune religious fanatic David Barker described Tony Abbott as “God’s mouthpiece in politics” and it wasn’t so long ago that Tony Abbott himself seemed to believe he actually had an open line of communication with the Lord, when he said that if the Lord was here that he would turn the boat people back also.

    • Christian Real says:

      02:14pm | 25/07/10

      Richard Marles
      A story in today’s courier Mail “Tax debt shame knocks shine of LNP star”, written by Patrick Lion:
      “The election campaign of star LNP candidate Jane prentice has been rocked by revelations her husband failed to pay a $1 million tax bill.”
      ” The Sunday Mail can reveal Cr Prentice’s spouse ,Ian Prentice ,was forced to declare bankruptcy when slapped with a huge bill from the Federal government four years ago,which he was unable to pay.”
      “Supreme Court documents show the Australian Tax office demanded a total of $1,062,917.35 in May 2006 after Mr Prentice failed to pay taxes while working overseas during the previous 13 financial years.”
      “The revelations are a blow to his wife’s hopes of winning the key Brisbane marginal seat of Ryan for the Liberal National Party,after she was pre-selected to replace Michael Johnson following his dumping from the party.”
      Richard, in an update on Liberal Candidate David Barker’s anti-Muslim campaign, in the seat of Chifley, he has since been disendorsed by the Liberal Party.

    • Chris Fawkes says:

      01:44am | 26/07/10

      “He has told us that workplace reform was one of the greatest achievements of the Howard Government and only the phrase workchoices is dead not its intent.”

      I’ll give you a life tip Richard, if you have to give up your dignity for your job get another job.

      To tell a lie that casually is to have surrendered ones dignity already.

      That you have to try and make something up about work choices also shows that you guys have nothing on Abbott.

    • Christian Real says:

      07:00am | 26/07/10

      Richard Marles
      It has now been revealed that Western Australian Liberal MP Don Randall has also made comments in regards to Julia Gillard’s religious view, I wonder if tony Abbott will disendorse him as he has done with Liberal candidate David Barker, who was the Chifley candidate,or whether there is a different rule for one and not the other.
      On ABC online, this story: “WA Liberal Candidate defends Gillard attack”, posted Sun July 25, 2010 @ 3.13pm AEST :
      “West Australian Liberal MP Don Randall is under fire over comments he made about Julia Gillard’s religious views.”
      “The member for Canning say many people in his electorate and across the country do not like the fact Ms Gillard is an atheist.”
      “The Coalition has dumped its candidate for the Western Sydney seat of Chifley for criticising his opponent’s Muslin faith”
      http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/25/2963556.htm
      Tony Abbott himself is used to breaking rules and being a rule breaker so it comes as no surprise of the low calibre of his Liberal and National party Candidates that has been picked to contest this Election.
      This story is from ‘The Sydney Morning Herald’, ” Abbott defends himself by confusing the issue”, written by Deborah snow, on august 28, 2003.
      “The Workplace relation Minister, Tony abbott, is relying on the sheer complexity of his part in the One Nation saga to tough out scrutiny of his truthfulness.”
      “His latest defence agaist claims of dishonesty,released on Tuesday night,muddies two seperate issue.”
      “The first was a pledge he made to a disillusioned former One Nation candidate, Terry Sharples, in July 1998 to defray legal costs in a case Sharples was bringinging against One Nation.”
      “The second is a trust that Abbott set up the next month to pursue One Nation through other legal channels.”
      “At issue is whether Abbott lied to the ABC’s Four Corners program in august 1998 when he denied offering funds from “any source’ to Sharples and whether his statement to the Herald in March 2000 that “misleading the ABC is not quite the same as misleading the parliament as a political crime” was acknowledgement that he lied.”
      http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/27/1061663854618.html
      In another story in the “Sydney morning Herald”, “Howard knew of slush fund to target Hanson.”, written by Mike seccombe, on August 27, 2003 :

      “The Prime Minister, John Howard, was aware of $100,000 clandestine trust fund set up by the Workplace Relations Minister, Tony abbott, to bankroll legal action against Pauline Hanson and One Nation.”
      “But it appears that Mr Abbott could be in breach of his leader’s code of conduct, because, because he did not formally notify MR Howard until three months after it began.”
      “The fund was set up in late August 1998, but not declared until December 3.
      http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/28/1061663793191.html
      Then you have Tony Abbott during a 7.30 Report interview with Kerry O’Brien, saying: “Don’t believe everything I say.” and “Sometimes in the heat of discussion,you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm,considered,prepared,scripted remark,” he told ABC’s 7.30 Report on Monday.
      “Which is one of the reasons why the statements that need to be taken absolutely as gospel truth is those carefully prepared,scripted remarks.”
      Then this story from News.com.au, this story, “Tony abbott’s secret $710,000 loan”, written by Simon Benson, from “THe Daily Telegraph.” on June 23,2010 @ 12.00 AM
      “Opposition Leader Tony Abbott took out a new $710,000 mortgage on his family home shortly after going into Opposition,partly to help fund his family expenses after losing his ministerial saly.”
      “But what appears to be in breach of the Parliamentary rules covering MP’s pecuniary interests,he failed to declare the loans to Parliament for almost two years.
      Richard Marles, why does Tony Abbott feel that he is exempt from following and obeying the Parliamentary rules when it covers all MPs
      The Parliamentary rules state that: “Parliament requires all MPs to register any changes to interests,benefits or liabilities within 28 days.”

 

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