One of the weirdest pieces of television ever screened in Australia showed a Werribee Zoo rhinoceros which, to put it gently, needed a little human handiwork to get it interested in the local female rhino. You can just imagine the zookeeper describing her day at work. “Oh, you know. Fed the zebras, jerked a rhino off. Just the usual.”

Sea World's happy polar bears are much less dead than their German counterparts

But the point of this story is not to mention a great big wank that screened on the ABC. That would hardly be news. It’s to point out that captive breeding programs are a complicated business. Handled professionally, as they are in Werribee, they can be tremendously effective programs. Handled poorly, they can be nothing short of cruel.

Yesterday’s awful amateur video of German polar bear “Knut” dying in captivity has spawned debate on the worthiness of captive breeding programs, and more generally, the role of zoos. (Click on the link only if you have a strong stomach. It’s a lot more graphic than watching a rhinoceros spank the monkey.)

Do zoos really have a place at all in 2011? And if a species is so critically endangered as to need bolstering by human hand, are we fighting a battle worth fighting by breeding it in captivity? Wiser, surely, to direct efforts towards preserving its natural habitat.

By all accounts, that’s what groups like the World Wildlife Fund do. We contacted their Australian chapter yesterday for a comment on the ethics and effectiveness of captive breeding programs, but their four media reps were apparently all out to lunch eating panda focaccia.

We then rang Sea World on the Gold Coast, which is home to Australia’s only polar bears outside of a Bundaberg Rum label. Sea World has had polar bears since 2000, and currently houses two Canadian orphans, Hudson and Nelson, who arrived in 2004 after a 77 hour journey from Quebec, escorted by Sea World’s Director of Marine Sciences, Trevor Long.

Sea World states on its website that its Polar Bear Shores exhibit is “a unique educational experience that assists, through a wider public awareness, the conservation effort of this perfectly adapted marine mammal.”

That’s quite a big statement. Given that many are claiming the dead German bear was distressed at having so many onlookers, is it really fair to claim that a bunch of kids who’d probably rather be playing Nintendo DS and their sunstruck parents can really help save a species by perving through the glass?

The answer, according to Trevor Long, is a resounding yes.

Long is a great believer in the power of first hand animal encounters to transform kids into the sort of people who will grow up with a genuine interest in wildlife, and in some cases, the desire to devote their lives towards wildlife preservation.

It happened to him when he had a sting ray encounter in a public aquarium as a kid, and he says it’s happening to kids who visit Sea World today. He also makes the very salient point that kids don’t usually watch David Attenborough videos, or others wildlife and nature docos. They’re much more likely to be watching SpongeBob Squarepants.

“You’ll never ever save an animal unless people can see it [first hand] and emphasise with it,” Trevor Long says.

“If we can give people a wonderful positive experience of animals in a beautiful environment that is respectful and dignified, I think it can make them want to have a voice.”

So according to Long, zoos and animal parks can work. And his animal park just happens to be a beauty. Designed by him, Sea World’s Polar Bear Shores has high viewing platforms, because the bears like to see beyond their immediate enclosure, and pools with adjustable water temperature. Even the flow of water in the mock waterfalls is adjustable, to simulate nature’s ebbs and flows.

And get this. Long periodically sets up fans in the enclosure, and puts a whole lot of stinky stuff behind the fans, like seal poo, to simulate the stench of an Arctic breeze. In the zoo game, that’s what’s called an “enriched” environment.

Sadly, many overseas zoos are nowhere near as sophisticated. Long can’t and won’t comment on the conditions in the Berlin Zoo, where Knut died, but he does say many European zoos are proud of their old school enclosures – some of which date back to the 1800s – because of their retro value. From the animal welfare perspective, that’s just sad.

Personally, I still don’t much like the gawking experience of going to a zoo, and neither do my kids, aged four and seven. One very good reason for this is that even highly urbanised Aussie kids like mine are exposed to a much wider variety of creatures than kids in large cities overseas.

Blue tongue lizards in our local park, cockies in our backyard, kangaroos over granny’s back fence in Canberra… why go somewhere to stare at animals through bars when they’re staring at you through the window? And why pay for the privilege?

Also, despite Trevor Long’s infectious enthusiasm and undoubted expertise in creating brilliant captive habitats, you still have to question just how many visiting kids take more than a fleeting interest. For most, an animal in captivity is a soon-forgotten curio.

Clearly there are good zoos and bad zoos, and most Australian zoos are good ones.

But the image of that poor German bear hobbling in agony and confusion before plunging face down in its pool is – to some at least – scarcely more grotesque and plain wrong than two Canadian orphan bears lounging in the luxuriant, 19 degree waters of the Gold Coast.

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    • John C says:

      05:26am | 23/03/11

      Whatever the conditions, good or bad, a zoo involves holding a living creature in captivity for the entertainment of others. They should be banned.

      As for circuses, they involve unspeakable cruelty. They should not only be banned but the operators investigated for cruelty to animals and, where appropriate, prosecuted.

    • Martin Hopes says:

      07:06am | 23/03/11

      Hear hear John C. Every day that passes, we are wiping out more and more of these animals natural habitat, for what? -  to make way for that animal at the top of the food chain…Humans. So what do we caring Humans do? We place endangered animals in zoos and say we are protecting them, go figure!  Polar Bears in Australia - give me a break.

    • Ben says:

      02:11pm | 23/03/11

      Zoos ‘hold living creatures’ in order to educate people. Most zoos conduct various types of research and are involved in breeding programs. They should NOT be banned.

    • Rico says:

      02:41pm | 23/03/11

      “So what do we caring Humans do?”

      Human minds have invented art, mathematics and intercontinental travel.

    • Max Wilkins says:

      08:01pm | 23/03/11

      Now more than ever before zoos play an essential role in conservation.  So many species have been lost and we continue to destroy habitats all over the planet.  Zoos are not the problem, as long as we let ourselves destroy the environment the way we do then there will always be a role for zoos.

    • C says:

      11:23am | 24/03/11

      You’re a tool bag.

      Zoo’s have epic importance on the sustainability of endangered animals and knowing other animals to a greater degree for the betterment of the planet.. The entertainment is a by product of how this is funded.

      It’s wannabe hippy wankers (just using a work in the article so shouldn’t be censored) like you that argue about global warming, burning off, culling, baby bonus, working families….the list goes on all this without knowing any facts or being anything close to having an educated response.

      Go back to your call centre and keep your stupid options that are WRONG to yourself.

    • c says:

      11:49am | 24/03/11

      That was meant to be opinions. Not options. But you can keep both of them to your self anyway!!

    • Peter K says:

      10:24pm | 24/03/11

      Without zoos we would probably have lost many animals already. I consider them to be a bank that we can refer to once we’ve killed off all the wild animals. If we leave humans to do what they’re doing there won’t be any left out there. My vote; Yes; we need zoos to help save the future of animal life on this planet.

    • Dirk Hartog says:

      06:37am | 23/03/11

      “You’ll never ever save an animal unless people can see it [first hand] and emphasise with it,” Trevor Long says. - I can empathise with that comment.

    • martinX says:

      10:42am | 23/03/11

      Does he mean that we should all use BOLD. Or /italics/. or perhaps bold italics.

    • Rico says:

      02:52pm | 23/03/11

      Agreed with Hartog. For some reason, we have this ‘selective saving/crusading’ thing going on with the animal so-called ‘rights’ movement; some creatures qualify for protection and public awareness, whilst others just aren’t cute and fuzzy enough it seems… The philosophical justification for animal ‘rights’ activism is the perception of pain (this is used to distinguish from the uniquely human ability to reason), yet this philosophical tenet is clearly unimportant in face of political expediency.

      I’ve never been able to compartmentalise this inconsistent application of values, but then again unlike others I cannot stand cognitive dissonance and actively seek to address it rather than ignore it.

      What say you, anti-humanists?

    • Antipodes says:

      06:43am | 23/03/11

      Good article Anthony. I have been a long time critic of Sea World from the perspective of the pseudo-science that drives their operations.  The kids that run around claiming expertise are mostly new graduates with a basic degree that was driven by the desire to ‘play with dolphins or work with sharks’. No useful expertise in anything so it is a stupid claim by Sea World that their operations are managed by well-trained marine biologists.  The theme park is a theme park and the animals are being exploited no matter how much the operators try to claim otherwise. And I think you are absolutely correct in your assessment of the value of these exhibits in inculcating a sense of wonder and caring in kids.  Five minutes at the polar bear exhibit - 3 hours queuing for rides and junk food, with the possible purchase of a stuffed polar bear in the gift shop.

    • Ben says:

      08:15pm | 23/03/11

      Well it sounds like you just go there for the rides anyway and not the educational experience. Why don’t you just go to Movie World?

      Why not go to SeaWorld and you as a parent, take some interest and make it a learning experience for your children. After a day of seeing the animals, sit down with your children and do further research about their natural habitats and way of life. This way they have a far greater understanding and appreciation of the animals.

    • Jade says:

      07:05am | 23/03/11

      There needs to be worldwide standards put in place dictating how these animals should be housed and treated.  I haven’t watched the video of Knut dying, it would make me ball my eyes out.  But to say he was stressed from all the people watching is a bit extreme.  Maybe if he had grown up in the wild and was brought into captivity that would be the case, but he was raised around people, he would be use to it.

      I love going to zoo’s to look at all the animals, I think it does a great job of raising public awareness to the plight some of these species are in, and the breeding programs (if done right) are great at preserving the animals on our planet a little longer. 

      But then, I hate that the animals never get the chance to be out in the wild, living as normally as they can… contradiction I know. How can you win, you leave them in the wild and its letting those poachers (disgusting excuses for human’s IMO) kill them all.

    • Animal Luvr says:

      10:48am | 23/03/11

      “There needs to be worldwide standards put in place dictating how these animals should be housed and treated. ” LOL.

      You’re having a “ball” (sic) about Knut, who was kept well in a good modern zoo but you obviously haven’t seen a zoo in, say, Thailand. I had my photo taken with a real panther! As soon as I sat down it was obvious that the poor guy was tranked, and probably was all day every day, but that’s business in SE Asia.

      Oh, and then there was the dog kept in a (smallish) cage with a tiger because they “grew up together”. It was a scared looking dog, I tell you. They probably replace them once a week.

      So you make your worldwide standards and then try and figure out how to implement them in countries that don’t give a hoot for what you ball about.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      11:05am | 23/03/11

      @Jade, I agree 100%
      @Animal Luvr: “I had my photo taken with a real panther!” - well the standards that Jade is talking about which should IMO be brought in, won’t do much good when supposed animal lovers from western countries continue to go to those zoos & fork over cash like you did to take happy snaps with animals who are obviously being mistreated.

      Not quite sure how you can be an animal lover, but see nothing wrong with that..

    • Jade says:

      11:42am | 23/03/11

      Wow untangle your panties animal luvr… jesus… the reason places in SE Asia don’t give a hoot is because noobs like you PAY them money, which in their minds justifies it as okay. 

      @ LauraBoBaura… you took the words right out of my mouth!

    • Kate says:

      04:46pm | 24/03/11

      Jade, are you aware Knut used to get panic attacks, sway from anxiety and attempt to mimic people taking his photo by holding his paw up to his face?
      Does that sound well-adjusted to you?

    • GeeJay says:

      07:22am | 23/03/11

      There should be more performing animals in circuses traveling to the people, bringing the wonders of nature back onto the village green, into our backyards. People would then have more insight into animal behaviour and incidents like the Knut incident would not be such a shock.

    • Paul C says:

      07:24am | 23/03/11

      That’s right Anthony, you just sit your kids down in front of the automatic babysitter - the playstation. Kids these days only want to watch tv because parents encourage it, a lot less energy its required from the parent. Organisations like World Wildlife Fund do an excellent job protecting habitats and zoos do an excellent job educating people and restocking those environments. Sure you pay a fee to go to these parks, but that is how the park funds it’s research and breeding programs. The Tronga/western plains zoo is an excellent example out this. Pity that only a small fraction of Sea World’s work is on display. Obviously the education is working, otherwise we would still be building zoos that looked like those animal goals of yesteryear.

    • Elphaba says:

      08:03am | 23/03/11

      “You’ll never ever save an animal unless people can see it [first hand] and emphasise with it,” Trevor Long says.

      And he’s absolutely right.  Personally, I’ll be waiting for the results of the autopsy before casting judgement on Berlin Zoo. 

      As for places like Sea World and Taronga, I think they do great work, and I’m happy to donate money to them for the animals.  In a country where apathy has become a national pastime, we need people like Long, who make conservation cool.

    • fairsfair says:

      09:33am | 23/03/11

      yeah he looked like he had a seizure of something - it may have been genetic or degenerative, we don’t know.

      I think there are a lot of good facilities about, but there are also a lot of bad. I don’t think calling for a blanket ban would achieve a nett improvement in the lives of animals.

      Sad to hear Knut kaput though - he caught the world’s attention when he was a baby and it is bizarre to think that we can sit at work in Australia and know the name of a polar bear in a German zoo (even prior to his death).

      Mind you - so against the Killer Whales courtesy of Seaworld US. That whole set up infuriates me.

    • Mouse says:

      12:02pm | 23/03/11

      I agree fairsfair, he certainly did look like it. I would say he has probably had a stroke,  (yep, animals have them too funnily enough!) causing bleeding into the brain. That would explain the circling actions and the head nodding before he fell into the water.  If this is the case, it’s not the zoos fault and would have happened to the poor thing in the wild too. Its is sad, he was such a cutie.
      It would be even sadder if they didn’t have zoos and wildlife parks I think.  The programs they provide in regards to breeding and preservation are going to be the only way some of the species survive, unfortunatlely.  Besides, it is much better seeing them in the flesh than on a page in a book.  My kids and I love the zoo and it’s the one thing you never get too old to enjoy. I am waiting for the day when I can take my “yet to be” grandkids there!  hint hint…nobody listens to me..  :o(

    • Elphaba says:

      12:15pm | 23/03/11

      @fairsfair, I did post a response to you but I suspect it went missing.

      I agree with Mouse - a stroke.  That was my first thought when I saw the footage.  A report today says that there was some inbreeding at the zoo and a similar problem had presented before, suggesting that this may be a genetic problem.

      I’m with you on the killer whales, such a big animal in a small tank seems weird, but I accept that I know very little about killer whales and that the staff at the zoo must know more than me.

      I know that I am motivated to care more about animals when I see them up close and personal in a zoo.  For the most part, zoos have come way beyond what they used to be.

    • Magda says:

      04:13pm | 23/03/11

      There was a really good article written recently about keeping killer whales in captivity, and how the animals’ emotional distress might be responsible for a number of trainer deaths. They’re too big to be happy in the tanks, and they have a big need for strong social support from their pod, which they do not get in captivity.

      But yes, I think a good zoo is a really great tool, for inspiring wonder in children (and adults, I still go to the zoo every so often), and because of the important research and conservation programs run by them. Our zoos are quite good in Australia. They’re very big on ‘enrichment’ and stimulating the animals’ minds.

    • Lauren says:

      09:20pm | 23/03/11

      @ Fairstar I was actually asked to leave San Diego Seaworld because i told them i was disgusted with not only the fact that killer whales are living in tanks, but that they are being made to perform for humans. They also didn’t like questions about how if they are fine with it why do they keep attacking (and sometimes killing) their trainers. It gives me peace of mind that i was pretty much dragged there by relatives and refused to pay but i am still ashamed i set foot in the place.

      As for the polar bears at Seaworld in Australia i did enjoy seeing them up close. I will not go to any performance where animals perform so while the rest of my group went to the dolphin show i went and watched one of the bears playing with a barrel. I’m no expert on the matter but he looked happy. I didn’t feel upset or sad or want to complain.

      I believe Knut had a very sad life and while i can’t bring myself to watch the video, its clear from reports i’ve read that he wasn’t well. I get the feeling the zoo isn’t entirely to blame but it certainly didn’t help.

    • Think of the children says:

      08:18am | 23/03/11

      “if a species is so critically endangered as to need bolstering by human hand, are we fighting a battle worth fighting by breeding it in captivity?”

      Humans are the biggest danger to the species that inhabit this planet. Loss of habitat, introducing poison into their food chain, hunting them to extinction are just a few of the ways we do it.
      Take the Polar bear in this story for example. If the Ice at the North Pole continues to melt at the current rate of 10% a year, by the end of the century, there will be no Polar bears. Gone, finished, Kaput.  The only time you’ll be fortunate to see a polar bear will be the stuffed on at the collectors estate.
      Climate Change deniers don’t care about the polar bears or anything else, but their greedy little selves. 
      Perhaps the best thing that can happen to this planet is for the human species to extinct itself through inaction on climate change.

    • Rev says:

      09:02am | 23/03/11

      Ah, I love it when someone uses the ol’ ‘we should all be offed’ line.
      Unfortunately, those that do never seem to lead the way…

    • Truganini says:

      11:47am | 23/03/11

      Nah rev
      Just the conservatives, then the planet will be OK.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      02:02pm | 23/03/11

      Funny, another post of mine seems to have gone missing. Yet the left wing trolls keep getting through…

    • Rico says:

      02:58pm | 23/03/11

      @Think of the children - you forgot the vast majority of extinctions occurred on Earth before human even existed. But don’t let that get in the way of a good story!

      Say, how’s the self-loathing going for ya?

    • Truganini says:

      05:51pm | 23/03/11

      Rico
      How’s that self gratification going for you.
      All pumped up and ready to go out and kill something?
      Your a big boy now.

    • Rico says:

      07:40pm | 23/03/11

      Well Truganini, I wouldn’t know seeing as I’ve never gone hunting in my entire life.

      But keep making those assumptions. I’ll make an assumption of my own: your loaded language and emotionally based arguments indicate your position is not grounded in logic, but in faith. I’ll further assume from this emotional outburst of yours, that you require a moral justification for your ideas (seeing as you cannot justify through reason); demonising the opposition with loaded accusations satisfies this need.

      Leave the debating to adults, big boy.

    • Jon says:

      08:47am | 24/03/11

      Rico, animal species extinction has astronomically accelerated in the last few hundred years.
      This is directly linked to the activities of humans. Primarily to do with habitat destruction.
      Do some research before you start accusing other of lacking logic.

    • Rico says:

      06:00pm | 24/03/11

      @Jon- you have either misread what I wrote or have decided to put up a crappy straw man.

      Try again.

    • Anthony says:

      08:29am | 23/03/11

      Great headline!

    • Steve says:

      08:45am | 23/03/11

      A zoo is a prison at least for bigger animals - end of story! I would not like to live in a compound like that.

    • Jon says:

      09:02am | 23/03/11

      Modern, well-run zoos are actually one of the foremost advocates for conservation and preservation of endangered species.
      While I understand the argument that they keep animals in captivity, without the breeding programs and investments by zoos and widlife centres into the conservation of endangered species, many of these species would be at much greater threat.
      In fact some species barely exist outside of those kept in zoos or widlife centres.
      Obviously it’s a fine line and some species are kept purley for the entertainment of people who visit the zoos. Having said that, the zoos need to generate funds in order to invest in breeding and conservation programs.
      They also spend huge amounts on education and awarness campaigns for the preservation of animals.
      Having said that, if animals are to be kept in captivity, they should be provided enclosures as large and close to their natural environment as possible, and a big effort must go into providing these animals with sufficient stimulation to keep them happy.
      Western Plains Zoo in Dubbo is an example of a zoo that does a great job in this department.

    • Justin says:

      09:14am | 23/03/11

      Since our TV networks (particularly the ABC) have decided to waste their high definition broadcasts, the only way we can see these magnificent animals in HD is at a zoo.

      However, my problem with zoos is that there’s not enough action. I’ve been to Taronga 3 times in the last 5 years & I’m yet to see a moving snow leopard. The bloody things sleep when it’s cold, sleep when it’s hot, sleep when it’s quiet & sleep when it’s not. What’s needed is a bit of live baiting or at least put the hose on them so that the public get their moneys worth - it’s not a cheap day out!

      If you want to make zoos more realistic for the animals, play back the sound of their predators to them to spice things up. Let the lions in with the zebras every now & then. That’s what happens in the wild, so let’s replicate it.

      Maybe Knut was just bored to death?

    • Jade says:

      10:46am | 23/03/11

      Maybe because Snow Leopards are nocturnal.  Maybe we should put you in there for live baiting, would that add a little more excitement for you?

    • BCE says:

      11:56am | 23/03/11

      Sorry Jade, snow leopards are not nocturnal.

      The big cats at Taronga have perennial boredom problems, as recognised by their keepers. One of the main problems is space, or lack thereof.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      12:17pm | 23/03/11

      @BCE - They are mostly nocturnal, most active at dawn and dusk. A simple google search would have answered that.

    • Jade says:

      02:10pm | 23/03/11

      Haha exactly LauraBoBaura.  It is a cat after all.. when are most cats active?

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      03:08pm | 23/03/11

      @Jade, if my cats are anything to go by, they are most active at 3am when I’m trying to sleep.. any other time & they’re about as active as the furniture.. smile 

      Does this make me a monster for holding kitties captive?

    • Jade says:

      03:31pm | 23/03/11

      Haha yeah all my past kitties were the same smile They never want to play when you do… would rather claw your feet while you sleep raspberry

    • BCE says:

      07:46pm | 23/03/11

      LauraBoBaura/Jade:

      The term you’re looking for is crepuscular, not nocturnal. Such lifestyles are very different, and a simple google search would have given you the correct term.

    • Jade says:

      06:51am | 24/03/11

      “Snow leopards are most active at night and in the twilight hours of dusk and dawn.”

      Source..http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?itemid=194&catid=6&subcatid=38

    • Huey says:

      09:30am | 23/03/11

      Compared to conditions for the Multi-millions of factory farmed birds and beasts…zoo animals are pampered popinjays.. If you think a zoo is an imposition or cruel to animals how the hell do you rationalise factory farming? What! No Kentucky fried Penguin?

    • Em says:

      12:57pm | 24/03/11

      +1,000,000 for Huey. Agreed.

      And I love zoos. They do a world of good in the preservation and conservation of endangered species around the world. Some animals have been brought back from the brink due to hunting and habitat degredation.  Unfortunately not all zoos have the same focus as we do on enclosures that are more in line with nature.

    • Lourdes says:

      09:34am | 23/03/11

      Rather than have zoos that protect species that are close to extiction why not attack the initial problem of why they are being extinct in the first place ! Their natural habitat is being destroyed or they are killed by poachers etc, etc. Find a way to help those that depend on poaching by educating and training them with skills that they can implement to do a trade or the like that would not only help them but also their community. Work with govts to find a way to better share this planet of ours with animals who are only trying to surviving in the natural habitat. I went to san diego zoo 3 years ago and yes, they had heaps of animals ‘on display’ but 80% of them were in appaling living conditions. Zoos aren’t the answers, perserving their natural habitat is.

    • Reader says:

      11:58am | 23/03/11

      Sure but in reality none of that is going to happen because most people inherently very selfish. People aren’t going to give land back to animals or ‘re-grow’ forests or stop doing anything that has a buck in it. So we need zoos, good ones at least.

    • notSue says:

      12:35pm | 23/03/11

      So, we preserve their natural habitat, then have no animals like top predators (ie the tiger) to release back into that habitat to naturally regulate the prey animals, as they’ve done for millenia? A habitat is part of an eco-system, it’s complex and interwoven. BOTH strategies are vital, and zoos world-wide play their part in conservation of environments.

      I agree it would be ideal if we could insist that all zoos work to the standards of such marvellous places as Melbourne Zoo, where most animals have appropriately sized and fitted -out enclosures. Yes, they’re captive, but they’re extremely well looked after, their lives are enriched with activities and they often live longer than they would in the wild.

      I know a five year old who absolutely BEGS to be taken to the zoo to see the seals in particular. They work as an educative force for good, as long as parents teach their children and get off their bums to take them!

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      01:18pm | 23/03/11

      Lourdes - I think you’ll find that all of the strategies you have described RE habitat protection & education have already been well and truly implemented all around the world, in ADDITION to zoos.

    • sol says:

      09:55am | 23/03/11

      Or, your dog is a prisoner in your home. It should be running free and eating dead rat carcasses. It is a living thing and shouldnt be gawped at like some kind of pet.

    • Em says:

      01:15pm | 24/03/11

      Actually, sol, whilst I know your response is tongue in cheek, dogs have been domesticated over a a period of many, many thousands of years. Proven fact that each breed has the same DNA history - ie, they all come from wolves.  Dogs cannot survive in the wild (as nature intended) because they are NOT wild and haven’t been for some time. Wolves are survival machines, dogs are not.  There’s a big difference between wild and feral.

    • stu says:

      10:55am | 23/03/11

      zoo’s are the last front for the survival of a lot of endangered animals, through breeding programs and awareness of their plight, inthe 1800’s yeah zoo’s were barbarric, not now, they are often the last line of defence these poor buggers have left, why don’t you guys check your facts before blasting the verry people who are at the forefront of your cause, there are dozens of species of animals which would be extinct now without our wonderfull zoo’s!

    • Emma says:

      10:59am | 23/03/11

      Our zoos are fatastic when compared to somwhere like Phuket Zoo. When I visited in 2009 the TIger was skin and bone and lived in a concrete cage and the elephants were forced to dance and play soccer and were chained to a concrete floor with about 50cm of chain to move.

    • Martin says:

      11:05am | 23/03/11

      Compare to the lives of anymals subjected to live export to Middle East, pig living in pens measuring around 2sqm, battery hens, the animals living in zoos are living in luxury. Most of the zoos are doing incredible jobs.

    • Mirror says:

      11:06am | 23/03/11

      ‘That’s quite a big statement. Given that many are claiming the dead German bear was distressed at having so many onlookers…’

      I didn’t know Germans could also speak Polar Bear?

    • Lyn says:

      11:09am | 23/03/11

      I was mightily impressed with the Brookfield Zoo in Chicago which has fabulous enclosure designs that in many cases mask people from the animals. I am sure the animals were less stressed out by crowds simply because they couldn’t see them as clearly.

      And no one could argue that the work done at Healesville is pointless or worthless, surely.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      11:30am | 23/03/11

      I love zoos & I believe that they are priceless in teaching people about the importance of conservation, and although I hate going to a zoo & seeing a lion or a tiger pacing up & down the fence, or an eagle sitting on a perch all day I hate images of gorilla’s with their hands cut off, or elephants killed for their ivory, tigers killed for their supposed healing properties a lot more.

      Zoos do a lot to raise awareness about these issues. People are more likely to donate their time, money or voice to a conservation cause after they’ve seen the animals in the flesh, than if they hear about an endangered species for 10 seconds on the news.

    • BCE says:

      11:45am | 23/03/11

      Zoo breeding programs can actually be detrimental to conservation efforts, as they often do not take into account specific genetic lineages (i.e. cross-breeding Asiatic and African lions, which has occured) and, more worrying, unconsciously select for traits that make them easier to breed in captivity (i.e. tameness).

      Then there are the programs in themeparks in Australia and the US that breed purely to replenish their own stocks, specifically with dolphins and whales. Sea World routinely crosses orcas of completely different genetic and cultural lineages.

    • Sara Allen says:

      11:52am | 23/03/11

      I can’t comment on all zoos but certainly Western Plains (Dubbo) Zoo and Taronga Zoo are doing incredible things for wildlife conservation and awareness. The breeding program for elephants at Taronga is possibly the most successful in the world and I don’t think anyone who has recently visited wasn’t touched and delighted by the baby elephants amongst other animals there.
      What needs to be remembered also is that some of the species in the zoos are so endangered that they are possibly amongst the last 100 in the world - if the zoo didn’t exist, some species would disappear much sooner i.e. white rhinos, pandas. Obviously the zoo is not everyone’s thing but I love seeing animals that I never would have otherwise and particularly in scenarios where they do live in enriched environments like Dubbo and Taronga - and I grew up neighbouring a national park so I see my fair share of wilderness on a daily basis.

    • Beckert says:

      03:05pm | 23/03/11

      ” I don’t think anyone who has recently visited wasn’t touched and delighted by the baby elephants amongst other animals there.”

      And here we have the issue. Baby elephants and other baby animals get amazing exposure here in the media and bring thousands of visitors and hence much more money to zoos like Taronga.

      But think about it, born into captivity from animals bought from Thailand, who are then bred too young according to experts, in enclosures that don’t allow their natural desire to roam (yes elephants are nomadic creatures).
      If the captive breeding program is to release animals back into the wild in protected habitats, I’m all for it but all it seems to be about is bringing more dollars in so that people can go and gawp at the cute babies who go on to get ‘not-so-cute’ and develop symptoms of boredom and listlessness in their enclosures.

      It really is a very high price for the animal just so we can all go “awwwww”.

    • Captivity says:

      12:00pm | 23/03/11

      Many people in Australia have their own personal zoo in their backyard.

      Buy a dog, put in a small enclosure, ignore it, feed it irregularly, never walk it, pay it little or no attention, let it bark all day and night and annoy the hell out of the neighbours. Why do we do that?  Because maybe once a week or once a fortnight they’ll go out there and use it for entertainment.

      It’s a bit like zoo’s, where animals are taken away from their family and natural environment and put in a small enclosure for the enjoyment of humans who might want a little entertainment every now and then.

      Selfish lot arent we.

    • K says:

      08:26am | 24/03/11

      I love my dog. I walk him, play with him, talk to him, feed him, water him, spend ridiculous amounts of money on veternary care. He is part of our family.

      Not everyone is evil you know

    • Kai says:

      12:42pm | 23/03/11

      I can’t believe the ignorance on this feedback. 
      Zoo’s do so much towards breeding programs and the studies of species and habitat as well as using revenues to save animals worldwide.
      It is an interesting show of the times where Knut is taken as a negative when the reality is he likely wouldn’t have made it a week without the kind human’s hand rearing him and doing their best to give him a chance at life. 
      No it’s not nice to see animals in cages but many of these creatures wouldn’t survive outside of captivity due to the human devastation done to their natural habitats.
      Give some thought to that and the special people who work with these animals everyday and across zoo programs worldwide for the savior of the wonderful animal kingdom.

    • Man says:

      12:51pm | 23/03/11

      Zoos as a money-making business? No. What we see in nature documentaries these days far outweighs anything an animal in a confined space can give.
      As we push for renewable resources and the limitless energy it promises (being green does not mean technologically defunct), so too should the push for money reduce and the purpose of maintaining a habitable planet should emerge. Where zoos fit into this somewhat distant ideal is being at the forefront of animal conservation, awareness, and restorative projects. And I say “and”, not “or”. Keep zoos open to the public and let people see the work they are doing to keep the planet alive.

      So yes, zoos should exist for the forseeable future, however the shift in mentality should change from displaying live animals in enclosures purely for your viewing pleasure to allowing people to view these creatures while we try and save them as best we can.

    • notSue says:

      01:08pm | 23/03/11

      Yes, we can neglect our own four-legged companions, I agree.

      However,pure entertainment and oggling of an oddity used to be the rationale behind zoos when they were established a couple of hundred years ago. They’ve moved on from that goal since then and have much nobler reason to exist now. Often also, the animals have a chance to breed(and make their own family) which may not have occurred in the wild.

    • JC says:

      01:31pm | 23/03/11

      I love zoos, yay.

    • Leah says:

      01:32pm | 23/03/11

      I think you’re doing animals and children a disservice with this article. Maybe your kids aren’t interested in seeing exotic animals (when was the last time you saw a tiger or a hippo looking at you over the back fence?) but many are. I’ve never seen kids at the zoo who didn’t want to be there. As an adult I love zoos and I did when I was a kid too. I think Long is right - personal experiences with animals, even just seeing them in real life, will go a long way towards getting kids hooked on these animals which could lead to all sorts of conservation efforts further down the line.

      Zoos are also responsible for large amounts of research that go into conserving endangered species. I would shudder to think what would happen to many of our endangered species if it wasn’t for zoos that give them a safe habitat, facilitate breeding, conduct research and re-release animals into the wild.

      I also have nothing against displaying animals for entertainment purposes, provided the animals are treated well. If you have a pet and object to zoos you’re a massive hypocrite.

    • BCE says:

      07:50pm | 23/03/11

      There’s a whole lot of difference between keeping a dog in a yard and keeping a tiger in much the same space, when the latter would ordinarily have tens or hundreds of square kilometres in which to roam and behave naturally.

      Speaking of big cats in particular, it’s a rare zoo that breeds them responsibly and sucessfully (or at all) releases them. Most of this is accomplished by private, not-for-profit organisations in the country of origin.

    • Phil says:

      01:51pm | 23/03/11

      Protect a Polar Bears natural habitat? Tell that to the anti-carbon price nutters in Canberra today.

    • Polar Bear says:

      03:49pm | 23/03/11

      Some idiot even had a banner saying ‘the polar bears are fine’. They’d know obviously living on the other side of the world…

    • Margee says:

      02:06pm | 23/03/11

      When I was young I used to go to zoos, but as I got older and it became more important to me to be able to move around freely, the more I realised how terrible it must be for animals to live in captivity. I boycott zoos, because I strongly believe that animals belong in the wild (I have no pets for the same reason). Not only are the animals happier that way, it’s also for us humans much more enjoyable to see them in their natural habitat.

    • Rich says:

      02:22pm | 23/03/11

      Some Zoos are great; educational resources that are actively engaged in conservation and protection. Places like Healsville sanctuary, a beautiful use of resources. On the other hand there are exploitative hell holes - like Zoo Doo, in Richmond TAS. A gift shop that features a glass room open on one side to the tiger enclosure - it is disgusting. (http://www.aact.org.au/zoodoo.htm)

    • lee says:

      02:41pm | 23/03/11

      how can we ban zoos when we even put humans in captivity ( think big brother) all in the name of entertainment. I personally think all forms of animal captivity should be banned. Species die out and become extinct its the way nature and cycles work.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      03:15pm | 23/03/11

      “Species die out and become extinct its the way nature and cycles work” - how many species died from loss of habitat before humans invented logging & farming? Or how many were killed by poachers before humans?

      It’s just plain inaccurate to say that the huge amount of animals on the endangered/threatened species list are just examples of nature running it’s course.. humans have destoyed their habitat, killed, captured or otherwise buggered around with the natural order of things.

      Tigers have no natural predators, yet they are endangered… please tell me how that is natural?

    • K says:

      08:22am | 24/03/11

      Tasmanian Tiger? Hello? Are you still there? Oh no, thats right we wiped you out.

    • Bugsy says:

      02:48pm | 23/03/11

      The autopsy results haven’t come out yet so we don’t know what killed Knut. But the polar bears at sea world on the GC have serious stress issues. They do the same thing, over and over again. One of them was doing back flips, wiping his nose, and then doing the same back flip again, wiping his nose again and again and again. The kids around us were most entertained with the peculiar behaviour. But I was really saddened by it. It was clearly bored out of its mind. Those bears are designed for wandering miles and miles and miles of artic tundra, and not swimming in some tiny swimming pool in the Gold Coast. I reckon that’s animal cruelty. I wouldn’t say all zoos are bad for animals. Some of them are good, but keeping poor polar bears in conditions like that is just sad…

    • Steve says:

      03:24pm | 23/03/11

      Imagine a world where you did not have the opportunity to observe some of the world’s exotic animals in real life at a zoo (such as lions, elephants, tigers).  A world where your kids could never connect with such wildlife by observing them at a zoo.  Where their only contact with such animals was on TV.  Like everything, zoos have their good and bad points.  But lets keep perspective and not throw away the baby with the bath water.  I am sure that everyone with negative comments about zoos have had the curiosity to attend at least one zoo in their life time.

    • Chris says:

      05:22pm | 23/03/11

      i work at seaworld and i will say this…...zoo’s are still relevant as the amount of people i see each and every day that know absolutely nothing about animals except what has been told to them via the media which is usually total rubbish….its a fine line between caging animals and observing them in the wild, zoo’s allow people to witness these animals up close and in the flesh

    • cranky says:

      11:36am | 24/03/11

      They may do that at times, but Chris, Employee of Sea World - why don’t your management do something about the poor, depressed polar bears you have over there? they are MISERABLE and you don’t need to be an expert to see that! Whose brilliant idea was it to keep polar bears in an enclosure on the steaming, boiling hot Gold Coast, pray tell? And how much revenue do they bring to your fine institution by being tortured so that the tourists can see them “up close and in the flesh”? SURELY there must be a better means of housing the bears at least?
      Don’t even get me started on the Silverback Gorillas at Taronga zoo.

    • mary monica roche says:

      05:38pm | 23/03/11

      was Knut too hot? or sick of his boring cage?

    • Mirror says:

      06:22pm | 23/03/11

      Every major city should have a zoo.

    • Mr Pod says:

      08:21pm | 23/03/11

      I visited Seaworld on the Gold Coast and was saddened by the polar bears repetition of movement, over and over and over.  My family were so ashamed to be watching the animal in such desperate madness that it brought most to tears and we left Seaworld immediately.  Maybe the ew 3D cinemas could show animals in natural habitats with natural behaviors it would be a better entertainment and more humane.

    • PK says:

      09:15pm | 23/03/11

      I find it somewhat offensive that you state that European zoo’s are not of the standard of Australian zoo’s.

      I live in Europe and can assure you that that is not the case.

      I’m sure that the Berlin zoo was at the same standard of any Australian zoo’s. In fact, you’ll find that it may be better in some ways as European zoo’s try and make the living area of the animal as natural as possible.

      Here in Switzerland, as well as the zoo’s we have, we also have a lot of wildlife parks where animals live in their natural environment:

      http://www.tierpark.ch/english/index.htm

      But yes, I share your concerns about having animals in captivity. And I find that the person who filmed the death of the polar bear somewhat cruel.

      But that’s the world we live in, a world where animals or humans can’t even die without being captured on film.

      I think this needs be identified (the obsession with filming gruesome or horrible events) and not animal cruelty.

    • JJ says:

      12:39am | 24/03/11

      I love going to zoos, but I tend to walk away from them feeling bad for the animals. For fear of being accused of spamming I won’t mention the name but I recently visited a zoo that is actually more of a ‘reserve’ in north qld. I had the most wonderful experience of my life. The animals were fat, active, and had an amazing amount of space. There are good and bad things about zoos, even the good ones. Facts are, that until we replace their lost habitats and recreate decent populations and gene pools, they are needed. By the way… to imply the Knut died due to onlookers staring at him… that is just crazy. I feel stressed when I have an audience, yet here I am. Some people cannot think for themselves.

    • NickD says:

      03:55am | 24/03/11

      Want to see animals? Go visit a State or National Park. Even a wildlife park —which is effectively a reduced size version of these.

      Honestly, the kind of connection kids make with animals at a *zoo* (one with enclosures, ala most major cities) is not the type of long-lasting one that creates future environmental activists, or even encourages people to vaguely give a shit about animals.  SeaWorld is a business, and like any business with stakeholders their decisions and activity will always be driven by securing the best bottom line within the (loose) regulations that exist at the time.  I couldn’t give a shit how “state-of-the-art” SeaWorld’s facilities might be, because the state of them has been determined by a board of directors who might have “heard out” some well-intentioned keepers or on-staff zoologists/scientists. 

      We’ve had zoos for hundreds of years, and I don’t doubt a millenium or more has passed since animals first became something to exhibit. Strangely enough, I can’t quite remember a zoo having the effect of a Dian Fossey, or even a Steve Irwin. The animals are just caricatures in these environments.

      When you’ve stepped out of your tent in the morning and watched a black bear amble by less than fifty feet away, you start to understand it and appreciate the little guy in his natural habitat.

      Trying to make a case for the quality of care and habitat provided by a for-profit company is ludicrous. I work for one, and I sit on the board of one. Before anyone starts suggesting I’m some kind of environmental whacko, I grew up on a farm and am pretty handy with a .308 provided it serves a legitimate purpose.

      Has anyone seen the enclosure that bear died in? It looks like Canberra. As for why he died, who knows, but there’s probably a reason why his mother rejected him.

    • Margot says:

      07:21am | 24/03/11

      Zoos have an important role in so far as they breed animals who are critically endangered and do research that may one day help our own species.However zoo’s themselves are a very old institution that in many cases(Melbourne and Taronga zoo for example)where created in another century and many of the exibit areas are quite literally victorian in design and scope.Also they cost an incredible amount of money to run and so must be shoved onto a tiny amount of land as close to a city center as possible to draw the crowds they need.Zoos can do good but have many many issues and need to be updated to a modern standard but I doubt this will ever happen.It’s sad but what can one do?P.S I’m a veterinary nurse at a specialist hospital and I’ve seen the Knut footage(incredibly sad I don’t recommend anyone watch it)and he did not die from a behavioral issue brought on by his captivity,he had a neurological episode and sadly fell into water when he seizured and I would guess that he has drowned.Very sad but not something that anyone caused or could predict.

    • Pip says:

      07:49am | 24/03/11

      People should watch The Zoo on Gem Channel every night - Filmed at Auckland Zoo - great show and what the staff do to make their animals happy and comfortable is wonderful. They have great breeding programs running and their ultimate goal is to return the native animals back to their environment and with the other animals it is to breed the endangered species and share with other parts of the world.  I have learnt so much about all different animals and now donate to IFAW and PETA.  All animals and wildlife are well cared for and have regular vet checks.

    • Vanessa says:

      09:31am | 24/03/11

      Zoos by and large do NOT play a role in conservation nor are they able to provide the welfare requirements that the animals need. This statement is based on the following facts:
      - Case study 1 - tigers. The tigers in zoos by an large have no conservation value because many are inbred or hybridized (cross between sub-species). All white tigers are heavily inbred and are mutants.  They suffer zoochosis and would be highly unlikely to survive in the world or raise young in the wild successfully.
      - Case study 2 - elephants.  All suffer health problems (feet problems and arthritis for example) and zoochosis from being in captivity.  Still be captured from the wild or coming from irreputable sources to sell to zoos.

      The two above cases represent two of the most popular zoo animals in the world and their wild counterparts have been losing their habitats on an ongoing basis and their numbers have dwindled substantially. Their is little hope now for the remaining sub-species of tigers except for possibly the bengals currently in India (biggest population of tiger in the world of around 1200-1500 individuals).
      The only ethical ways humans can have direct interactions with wild animals is through rehabilitation centres with soft release measures, examples include the The David Sheldrick Wildlife Trust in Kenya and the Sierra Leone Chimpanzee Rehabilitation Programme.

    • Jake says:

      09:54am | 25/03/11

      I absolutely agree with you, Vanessa. Keeping animals in zoos is an insult to Mother Nature and her creations.

    • Cec Pitt says:

      11:23am | 24/03/11

      Pity we didn’t save a few tasmanian tigers and dodos etc. in zoos.

    • tara & caroline says:

      12:43pm | 24/03/11

      Caged or uncaged? It’s a very controversial topic, but we think that the animals don’t deserve to be kept in captivity. It’s a cruel and heartless thing to do because animals can develop diseases and zoochosis.
      The animals become placid and tame and cannot survive returning to the wild, if ever given the chance.
      Animals prefer the forests, deserts and the bush of natural environments. All this just for our entertainment!
      Animals want to be free. Think about it and also think that if you were an animal would you want to be trapped for years with people and animals looking in at you?

    • Erin and Rachel says:

      02:15pm | 24/03/11

      Animals are dying out and becoming extinct very quickly all because of us!
      We kill them then sell them just for money. We kill their prey and sell THEM too! That is only one way that we kill them!
      Animals like orangutans, pandas and tigers are disappearing rapidly! Animals will probably die out before humans, according to the number of species of animals left in the world! That would mean that we would have only about two more weeks of our lives left!
      Another reason that animals are dying out is because their type of animal is disappearing, so they can’t mate. This means that that species of animal would not continue, because no more young would be born.
      Animals who have been in captivity since they were born can live comfortably in their cage. THEY are fed food that is good for them. THEY can live longer, because their habitat can’t be destroyed! Take monkeys for example. They are usually busy minding their own business and don’t notice us snapping photos and pointing at them.
      Zoos are a good idea and animals should be kept in them. If zoos are shut down, animals will vanish in no time.

    • John says:

      03:29pm | 25/03/11

      I agree. Zoos are a necessary evil , if we want any animals at all in this world.

    • Rabbits says:

      03:37pm | 25/03/11

      Animals are MISERABLE in cages and you don’t need to be an expert to see that! SURELY there must be a better means of housing god’s creatures

    • Ben says:

      03:04pm | 24/03/11

      We all have to die and it is not pretty to see and it is often in great agony. That is life!

    • Coco says:

      03:53pm | 24/03/11

      Zoo’s are a primitive 19th century throw back to the aristocracy and its penchant for displaying dominance over nature.

      Now they are a business, the business of capturing and caging animals for profit.

      They have nothing to do with conservation and this is evidenced by the fact that they rarely if ever release animals back to their natural environment or contribute in any meaningful way to thier survival in the wild. They do put them on anti depressants so they can escape the stress of living the meaningless pressured existence that comes with being domesticated and constantly on display.
      Zoos push the conservation line to legitimise their businesses. In truth however they are just a stationary circus, primitive, shallow, cruel and tragic qualities required by any consumer who takes pleasure in frequenting them.

    • Cameron says:

      07:57pm | 24/03/11

      Human interest should be paramount. Humans are these great little animals that can think, feel, love, philosophise, imagine, sing, enjoy and create art. If there are people who will enjoy the entertainment value provided by a zoo, then I think that is enough reason to have a zoo.

      Why not keep an animal in captivity - providing for it’s every need - just for the purpose of making someone exclaim “Awwwww, it’s so cute!”.

      We currently keep millions of other animals in harsher captivity and then kill them, just for the purpose of making someone exclaim “Oooohhhhh, it’s so tasty!”.

      I think if it entertains some humans, then zoos should be kept around. That is all the argument you need.  But then you look at the other things that zoos provide, in terms of education, economy, research and conservation. Zoos provide an important role in the conservation of animal species, sure, but they also play an important role in human society.

    • Brooke & Lily says:

      08:24am | 25/03/11

      If you were an animal what would chose -a caged or uncaged life?
      If in cages the animals can suffer zoochosis and become aggressive to the keepers. When they are held in captivity they act strangely because they are not in their natural environment. Genetic Biodiversity is a problem because their breeding pool is limited.  When animals are born in zoos they’re alot weaker than what they’re supposed to be and if their breeding pool is concentrated, closer relatives can breed together and their children will have genetic problems. Zoos should not have breeding programs.
      SO BE FREE ANIMALS.

    • Monica says:

      03:32pm | 25/03/11

      Is a animal with weak genes better than no animal? I think so.
      Better the frying pan than the fire.

    • Rico says:

      05:57pm | 25/03/11

      “If you were an animal what would chose -a caged or uncaged life?”

      What an utterly brainless question, did you just have a stroke??. If you were an animal you would not ponder such an unanswerable question because you would not possess the ability to reason, not even in the slightest.

      Animals do not choose, they have no free will, they only act on instinct.

      You may as well ask a cow to speak English; the results will be more enlightening. The stupidity is just astounding me.

      If you’re gonna use ethics & philosophy to defend your position, at least know what f$%# you are actually talking about, here have a read:
      http://www.econot.com/page4.html

    • T***A says:

      04:24pm | 28/03/11

      nice try! but hey, you are not making any sense!

      i agree with rico, better luck next time in persuading US!

    • Hayden & Jake says:

      09:59am | 25/03/11

      When animals are caged in a zoo, it can be good or bad. When animals are in a zoo, the keepers can take care of them and feed them properly so they can have a variety of foods. It may look like animals want to be in a zoo and stay there, but deep down they want to run free. But then if they are free, they could be attacked , hunted or run over by a car. In a zoo, say, if a bird wants to escape it can’t because the cages are made of mesh so if the birds can’t escape they will go nuts and that applies to all other animals at zoos too. This topic is very controversial so I will leave the vote with you.

    • Xavier and Tom says:

      10:20am | 25/03/11

      Zoo animals are caged and dying In their so called “habitat” at the zoo. They hate it in there. If they could talk they’d probably be saying “gemme outa here!” Imagine if there was another planet where animals kept humans captive.You’d wanna get out. Wouldn’t you? They just get zoochosis and they might get a tiny bit boorrreeeed.
      Animals should live in perfect harmony in their normal food chain without humans. FREE ANIMALS FROM CAPTIVITY!

    • Forget it says:

      10:26am | 25/03/11

      How do we expect to treat animals humanely when we can’t even treat fellow humans humanely?

    • Lee says:

      11:38am | 25/03/11

      Yep totally agree- look at history and the terrible things we have done to each other.

    • Bethany & Grace says says:

      10:58am | 25/03/11

      When animals are first put into a zoo they are used to theIr natural enviroment and they don’t know what’s happening so they get zoochosis.
      When they are in the jungle or free they can eat their sort of food and they can be healthier than they should be. Also they won’t be scared because they are closer to their parents than they are in zoos.They don’t want to be caged because they want to be free so they undersand what they are saying because in the zoo’s the animals come from a different area.Plus if they were in a zoo they could have been separated from their parents when they newborn. If they were in cages they will be scared of all the people staring at them. Also if they were stuck in cages the temperature might be too hot or cold. How would you like to be stuck in a cage?
      LET ANIMALS OUT OF ZOOS!!!!

    • Trent says:

      03:40pm | 25/03/11

      Go back to Africa eh! The good ole days are gone. If animals are to have any chance of surival zoos are a major arm of the necessary solution. I bet you’re a vegetarian too.

    • Trudy says:

      03:42pm | 25/03/11

      Truthfully - how many times have you been to a zoo? Bet you had a ball too? Don’t be hypocritical.

    • Natalie and Isabella says:

      12:24pm | 25/03/11

      Zoos are no good for animals and are making their lifes worse. They are limiting their life adventures and not even entertaining children.

      1-All animals are getting to eat is the same thing and they would probably like other foods. Sometimes animals are not going to like their food so they may reject it and suffer from from malnutrution. 

      2- Walking around with nothing to do is boring and that’s what an animal would go through everyday of their lives until they die.Imagine if all you could do all day was just walk around with thousands of people looking at you every minute of the day
      LET ANIMALS BE FREE FROM BOREDOM AND CAPTIVITY

    • JJ and EC says:

      02:12pm | 25/03/11

      When you look into an animals cage at the zoo, the usually show symptoms of zoochosis but you think they look cute and happy, right? Wrong! I can not express more strongly my feelings about Animal Rights.welfare
      I can’t imagine that cold-hearted people would take an animals habitat from them! An animals habitat is their life force and like loved ones to a human. They go mentally ill and deranged and I and you when you finish reading this, will be an activist of animal rights. Would you like to be trapped in a horrid, hostile place with hundreds of people looking right at you as if you’ve done a crime? This an injustice towards animals. Being in a cage is like being behind bars.
      Manage your impulsivity when suggesting to go to a zoo. Would you want to be put in a cage? I for one and all the people I know wouldn’t.

    • Sam and Eli says:

      10:15am | 28/03/11

      We think that zoos are a horrible place providing a so called ‘habitat’. They will suffer from zoochosis if caged for life. In their natural habitat they can run around and eat different and interesting variety of foods. If scientist discover a new speices of animals they may not know what foods they eat and so if they give them the wrong food it will damage their digestive system and won’t have good bows. Being caged behind bars for the rest of your life with humanity staring at you 24/7. In captivity zoo employees will have to kill other innocent animals just to feed their animals for humans to look at. In the wild animals can find food for themselves so zoos wouldn’t have to pay for guns and cars to track the animals down and kill them for only 1 reason, their zoo. When they are free they see their family and friends and make new friends rather than seeing the same friends every single day.  In their ‘habitat’ they don’t have any privacy to go to the bathroom and mate but in the wild they don’t have us humans staring squared eyed at them. Animals in captivity don’t have any choice to do different things e.g swim in water, find their food and sunbake. Even though zoo keepers do a good job of taking care of the animals we believe that they can take better care of themselves in the wild, so let animals be free from boredom and that uninteresting place that zoo keepers call ‘habitat’!!!.

    • T***A says:

      04:30pm | 28/03/11

      WHAT, DOESN’T MAKE SENSE DUDES!

    • tara says that: says:

      04:20pm | 28/03/11

      totally agree with you! nice use of repition

 

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Dementor doing a good job for sweden #sbseurovision

Anthony Sharwood

Ukraine song pinches chord progression from The Verve's Bittersweet Symphony. Fo real #sbseurovision

Anthony Sharwood

RT @GerardDaffy: @antsharwood all the talk over there is the grannies will win.they entered to get a church built,feelgood story

Anthony Sharwood

These peole insult my grandmothjer, who was born in minsk, belarus #sbseurovision

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From: They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

Michael S says:

"A teacher at Geelong Grammar had criticised her for using words that were too long, which had left her confused and had made her doubt her ability to write essays. She became ''quite distressed'' when her English marks began to fall." I can sympathise. My scholastic mentors conveyed to me a causal relationship… [read more]

From: Welfare for breeders is a bonus for everyone

Change Up! says:

I have no problem paying my taxes. As a single, childless person on a very decent income, I can afford it and not have my life severely altered. Plus I understand that my taxes paying for things like schools, childcare and infrastructure is ultimately a good thing. A better community is better for me… [read more]

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They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

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