Few people, apparently, support the jailing of Julian Assange - Australia’s very own electronic Lord Byron,  the “romantic” hero of the Internet generation - for his organisation’s use and misuse (and, presumably, sale) of stolen US diplomatic documents. 

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Fortunately, those rights he may have as an Australian citizen in a foreign country have been actively supported by the Australian Embassies in Britain and Sweden, as they should be. 

Perhaps even more fortunately for Mr. Assange, the United States Ambassador to Australia, Jeff Bleich, has decried the exaggerated claims of ideologues in US media and politics.

Bleich explained the Obama Administration distanced itself from any claims that Mr. Assange is to be charged with treason, or even executed, and such demands must be considered ridiculous.

Even for advocates of greater transparency in the government/public discourse, WikiLeaks is hardly a pure positive.

Experienced editors such as Bill Keller, front row editor of the The Grey Lady of Old Media herself, the New York Times demurs. The NYT, now well used to the WikiLeaking revelations which they have extensively published, have come to that view. 

Others, even those media initially sympathetic, now view both the intentional and unintentional effects of WikiLeaks as ethically and practically mixed - see the Vanity Fair and New York Times critical appraisals.

For example, a WikiLeaks release concerning Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim, based on some “gossip” by an anonymous US diplomat, based on a conversation which in turn “this person” had with “someone” at a Singapore think-tank, very suspiciously supports the Malaysian Government’s long-pursued allegations of sodomy against Mr. Ibrahim. 

Unsourced, with no evidence, this un-redacted gossip was spewed out by the Assange e-machine.

It is certainly of no help to the democratic movement in Malaysia, nor to the brave Leader of the Opposition himself, in the middle of a trial for his political and personal life. (Homosexuality is illegal in Malaysia and just the charges, let alone a conviction, would prevent Mr. Ibrahim from contesting the next national elections).

Similarly, with apparent pride and callousness, Assange’s WikiLeaking exposure of Kenyan President Daniel Arap Moi’s corruption at the time of the Kenyan national elections in 2007 led directly to many Kenyan deaths. 

As a result of this WikiLeak exposure Assange claims, with apparent pride, that while: “1,300 people were eventually killed, and 350,000 were displaced. That was a result of our leak…..On the other hand, the Kenyan people had a right to that information ….. and 40,000 children a year die of malaria in Kenya.”

For those concerned with civil liberties and the support of human rights, it is germane to note that Julian Assange has fallen out strongly with such liberal bastions as the Guardian and the New York Times

His anarchist dumping of confidential US diplomatic information is not all helpful in supporting human rights or civil liberties. 

However, his approach to his own financial advantage cannot be labelled thoughtless or anarchic for he is now seeking to copyright his own name via his gloriously named UK law firm, Finer Stephens Innocent. Assange © promotes himself as a lonely anarchist warrior, a fighter for transparency and human rights. His own ( soon to be copyrighted) heroic self image notwithstanding,  he appears as the most notorious Australian swordsman since Errol Flynn, more “Bazza McKenzie” in a college scarf,  than Bakunin. 

When asked on British television why the women in Sweden had taken up these charges against him, he revealed that:  “What they say is that they found out they were mutual lovers of mine, and they had unprotected sex and they got into a tizzy about whether there was possibility of a sexual transmitted disease… they wanted me to have a test.”

Strange for our idealised hero - what kind of a person would publicly state something as casually sexist as that?  See “Angry Assange insists: I am not a sexual predator, I just really like women”, published in the British Daily Mail.

Of course, Julian Assange’s © battalion of barristers and solicitors rage on television and all over all media with confected hysteria about the dangers of Julian Assange ©  being extradited to the United States - if he is extradited to Sweden and possibly required to stand trial there on sex charges.

Strange, of course, for independent Swedish law to be thought so compliant to possible US wishes, given the history of Scandanavian protection of escapees from the US Draft Laws during the Vietnam War.

In a broadly sympathetic interview about Assange’s © court case the New York Times London chief John Burns said: “So I think the argument that if he goes to Sweden, it’s sort of a brief stop on his way to Guantanamo Bay is in the realm of the fantastic, which is not to say that Mr Assange himself may not believe that” .

Subsequently, the Belmarsh Magistrates’ Court has ruled (now under appeal to higher British courts) that Assange ©  should be extradited to Sweden where he will face investigation into his sexual behaviour. 

The simplest explanation is usually the best: That Julian © Assange © is beholden to the same set of laws to which all the citizens, residents and tourists in Europe are subject. On examination, WikiLeaks is - as the Guardian and New York Times have judged - a decidedly mixed bag.

On the one hand, it is probably good that we are aware of some of the issues that have been revealed, such as the real attitude of various Arab leaders to Iran.

But, on the other, the cavalier dumping of unsourced and unverified information about vulnerable individuals,  jeopardising their security and privacy is something we have to hold in a very delicate balance.

In his speech “Wikileaks and the Future of Democracy” at the Australian Institute of International Affairs (February 10, 2011) US Ambassador Jeffrey L. Bleich raised the serious question: How does the release of millions of confidential diplomatic transmissions over the Internet under the guise of freedom of expression serve the public interest? 

As the US Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes stated almost a century ago: no one has the right to shout “Fire!” in a crowded theatre.  A less dramatic illustration: No one has the right to reveal, without your permission, your medical or personal history over the Internet world. 

That can certainly be a serious, hurt and possibly devastating invasion of your personal privacy. 

None of these general examples, nor the more specific,  WikiLeaks’ release of a flood of diplomatic conversations and negotiations, serves our personal, institutional, national or international security. And it should be very clearly noted that the WikiLeaked documents are from democratic and open government sources, and not from the world’s closed and oppressed societies.

Some have said that no one has been hurt by the release of the Wikileak documents, but even Mr. Assange © does not believe that and has so stated (see above re Kenya)  Without doubt the forces of oppression are at this very moment triangulating WikiLeak documents to hunt down those sources they regard as harmful to their power. 

Further, WikiLeakings – rather than opening discussion – will shut it down. 

Between friendly – and even hostile governments - no diplomat, no politician, no friend, no source will feel free to discuss with matters of high importance or sensitive issues requiring novel or contentious thinking.

Michael Danby was named in US diplomatic cables, and this fact was subsequently Wikileaked on the front pages of the Fairfax Press. However, Danby’s “secret” wikilleaked criticism of then Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on the issue of asylum seekers had appeared on the front pages of Fairfax newspapers months earlier when they reported an ABC radio interview with Danby on the subject.  Some “secret”, some “leak”.

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    • Erick says:

      05:00am | 04/03/11

      Assange is a jerk, but he is being unfairly persecuted. Swedish law is extremely anti-male, and I do not believe it is possible for a man to get a fair trial in a sex-related case in that country.

      Furthermore, rape trials in Sweden are held in secret - closed to the public and to the media. These Star Chambers of sexism are a denial of basic human rights, and no-one should be subject to such a system of injustice.

    • acotrel says:

      07:03am | 04/03/11

      My money is on the Central Intelligence Agency, if the whole thing isn’t a set up, and Julian isn’t actually working for them!

    • marley says:

      07:19am | 04/03/11

      Erick - whether or not Swedish law is unfair, I have no idea.  The point is, when you travel to another country, you observe the laws of that country.  And if you violate the laws of that country, excessive or ridiculous though they may seem to you, you will pay the price.

      It’s kind of like drink driving.  Here, you’re penalized if you’re over 0.5.  In much of North America, it’s 0.8.  But Americans and Canadians who drive here at 0.7 aren’t going to get a free pass because the laws back home are different.  And an Aussie driving in Sweden at 0.5, where the legal limit is 0.2, isn’t going to get a free pass either.

    • KH says:

      07:44am | 04/03/11

      Marley - in Sweden, you have committed an offence if a condom breaks, regardless of the fact that both people are voluntarily in the situation in the first place.  That is one of the charges Assange is up on -  its the most stupid, ridiculous law I have ever heard of…....

    • Erick says:

      08:27am | 04/03/11

      Even so, Marley, the case against Assange seems dubious at best. The two accusers only “discovered” that they had been raped a few weeks after the alleged incident - when they found out Assange had been two-timing them. Sounds more like revenge than a real case.

    • Adam Diver says:

      08:28am | 04/03/11

      @ Marley, I think the point is very much whether the laws are unfair.

    • Samson says:

      08:43am | 04/03/11

      I think your measurements are out by a factor of ten there marley, pretty sure most people would die if they got to 0.8% bac!

      But observing the drink driving laws of a foreign country seems a bit more straightforward than staying on the side of the law in this case.  What are you supposed to do in Sweden?  Not have sex?  Or more specifically avoid having sex with two different women because they might get offended and put a sex related charge against you?  That seems like a fairly injust intrusion into a personal matter by the Swedish state, how do you avoid getting tangled up in that without simply avoiding relationships altogether?

    • rufus says:

      09:06am | 04/03/11

      Why do you call Assange ‘a jerk’, Eric? Let me hazard a guess. You perceive him as leftist (he’s not), successful (you’re not), famous (you’re not)...need I go on?

      So as much as you dislike Assange, you feel there is a bigger evil - laws that you see as ‘extremely anti-male’. Your bete noir.

      Are you a real person, or just a computer program that is set to read The Punch articles before dawn each day and then get in with a ‘males are victimised again’ slant?

    • numbers says:

      09:18am | 04/03/11

      marley Good analogy.
      Don’t want to be pedantic, but I think you meant .05,  .08, .07 and .02

    • marley says:

      09:59am | 04/03/11

      KH and Adam D - the laws may be ridiculous or unfair, but that’s not the point.  There are laws here I think are ridiculous (compulsory voting, for example) but because I live here, I observe them.  I think that laws about blasphemy in Pakistan are wrong but I observe them too if I’m visiting.  And the laws against women driving in Saudi Arabia are unfair, to say the least, but I would observe them too.  And if I violated any one of these laws, I would expect to face a court.

      As for the soundness of the case against Assange, I’ve got no idea.  And neither does anyone else. We get spin from Assange’s lawyers and doubtless from the accusers as well.  Let the courts sort it out.

    • KH says:

      11:55am | 04/03/11

      Marley - the law is ridiculous - that is just a statement of fact.  More to the point, the Swedes had already rejected these ‘charges’ once before.  He left the country via the airport (not sneaking out under cover of darkness or anything), and they did nothing to stop him, clearly indicating there was no problem.  Suddenly, after some documents are released that anger the USA, the charges mysteriously reappear.  Legal charges that can come and go depending on how the wind blows are ridiculous, and the timing of their re-appearance here deeply suspicious.  The guy is being persecuted unfairly - its an opinion….....

    • Mel says:

      12:13pm | 04/03/11

      An entrenched bias against women and girls who are victims or rape and sexual assault has existed in every legal system for centuries, which has resulted in an appallingly low rate of rape convictions. A law permitting rape in marriage was only struck down as recently as 1974. These problems only began to be acknowledged and addressed in recent decades. Strangely, nobody calls this situation an extreme, radical mysoginist ‘hornet’s nest’ of injustice against women and girls. Sweden’s laws are an attempt to address an already existing imbalance and bias against females in the legal system. They’re also not particularly extreme or exclusive to Sweden as far as I understand them. ‘Having sex’ with someone while they’re asleep is considered rape in most thinking, civilised countries, for example.

    • Shelly says:

      04:13pm | 04/03/11

      I call Bull on that statement about no male conspiracy Erick - as recently as the 1980s some Australian state statutes required judges in rape trials to instruct juries that sometimes women and girls lied for their own reasons and to consider that along with the evidence. They didn’t have to consider specifically whether there was evidence that the specific women/girls were lying in this specific case, or that there was any evidence suggesting that the complainants were known generally to be liars about other matters. Nope. None of that. Just women and girls lie.

    • James Ricketson says:

      05:39am | 04/03/11

      Julian Assange’s sex life bears no more relationship to whether the leaking of cables by Wikileaks is a good or a bad thing than Bill Clinton’s sex life had to whether his presidency was a good one or not.

      Why, six months down the track, is any serious commentator writing about pros and cons of Wikileaks making anything other than a passing reference to Assange’s personality or sexual predilections? Leave that to the tabloids and gossip mags.

      As for the New York Times being a ‘liberal bastion’, Punchers interested in the influence the White House has on the content of the NYT might like to read:

      http://www.salon.com/news/the_new_york_times/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2011/02/21/nyt

    • acotrel says:

      08:08am | 04/03/11

      @James Ricketson The efforts to arraigne Julian Assange add credibility to the Wikileaks story, and it may be that is the intention!

    • Razor says:

      11:07am | 04/03/11

      What part of “wanted for alleged sexual assault” do you not understand?

    • biff says:

      07:00am | 04/03/11

      I’m sorry but the nescience in Mr Danby’s speech in parliament about white elephants means he should never be allowed to author any articles nor should he be taken seriously.

    • PJ says:

      07:02am | 04/03/11

      Thank you - a relief to read what I had been feeling after all these months of too much info about one J. “icky”  A(copyright).

    • steve parker says:

      08:07am | 04/03/11

      One of the greatest English poets compared to Assange. You make your own mind up:

      They never fail who die
      In a great cause: the block may soak their gore:
      Their heads may sodden in the sun; their limbs
      Be strung to city gates and castle walls—
      But still their Spirit walks abroad. Though years
      Elapse, and others share as dark a doom,
      They but augment the deep and sweeping thoughts
      Which overpower all others, and conduct
      The world at last to Freedom.

      Lord Byron

    • Grumpy says:

      08:11am | 04/03/11

      None of these media outlets mind reprinting information that has been leaked on wikileaks, but are quick to discredit the man behind the site. I think there is a bit of jealousy. He’s a brave guy, one that im glad is out there. As a member of parliment michael, how many casualties from the wars that Australia has been a part of are directly as a result of our politicians, like yourself, sending troops to war? Assange is right in saying the people of Kenya deserved to know. Just as Australians, Americans, etc have the right to know of the corruption that is happening under our noses within our governments. And when we do find out, they should think themselves lucky this is Australia and not Kenya.

    • blind freddy says:

      08:17am | 04/03/11

      Uhm . . . who is Michael Danby?

    • RT says:

      09:56am | 04/03/11

      Uhm…he is an MP. Never heard of him? Some have, while no-one has heard of you.

    • blind freddy says:

      10:34am | 04/03/11

      Unlike the famous RT?

    • Chris L says:

      08:23am | 04/03/11

      So the 1,300 killed in Kenya was not the fault of the corrupt president or the way the Kenyan people reacted to the information or the way the Kenyan government responded to this reaction, it was Assange’s fault for publishing the information.

      That’s the kind of thinking that leads us to being such a litigious society. Such mental acrobatics make it possible to blame an absent property owner if you happen to be stupid enough to jump from their fence into a canal and break your back.

      “And it should be very clearly noted that the WikiLeaked documents are from democratic and open government sources, and not from the world’s closed and oppressed societies.” - Funny that our government and the US claim to be democratic and open, yet react with hysterical fury when these supposedly non-existant secrets are revealed.

    • Cat says:

      08:30am | 04/03/11

      If Assange has broken Swedish law in Sweden then he must be held accountable.
      The problem here is that Assange is wanted for questioning - after the case was initially dropped - and an international arrest warrant was made out in order to have him questioned, not charged.  Arrest warrants are normally made out in order to charge someone and, although rape is a very serious offence, they are usually reserved for things like murder and terrorism . 
      I understand he offered to answer questions on UK soil but the Swedes are demanding extradition - which suggests another agenda.
      Allowing the law to be used in this way sets a very dangerous precedent. I do not like Assange or what he is doing but I think that allowing a precedent to be set in this way could be far more dangerous than anything he has done.

    • Ange says:

      11:50am | 04/03/11

      ...not to mention that he was detained in solitary confinement 23 hours a day pending his first court appearance.

      Whatever one’s thoughts are on Assange or Wikileaks, no-one can deny that it’s all rather excesive and most certainly politically motivated.

    • Mel says:

      08:44am | 04/03/11

      “The simplest explanation is usually the best: That Julian © Assange © is beholden to the same set of laws to which all the citizens, residents and tourists in Europe are subject”.

      And if you read the recent ruling in regards to his extradition, that appears to be the case here. Apparently, Assange’s defence contained significant errors and untruths as well as hearsay about the Swedish prosecutor. The liberal left seems determined to paint Assange as some kind of persecuted revoloutionary with no solid evidence beyond gossip, innuendo and hyperbole. They also forget that Assange’s accusers, regardless of our opinions about the validitiy of their claims (and I stress opinions), also have a right to the due process of the law. That is a basic foundation of the democracy that Assange and his supporters themselves so passionately defend. Given that the number of men who are actually convicted of rape worldwide is appallingly low (how’s that for extreme bias in rape law?) it doesn’t even make logical sense to frame someone on rape charges. I think the left needs to step back, look at the actual facts and let the legal process take it’s course.

    • Az says:

      09:52am | 04/03/11

      Facts ? Do tell.

      Fact.

      Assange presented himself to the Swedish Judiciary at the time the charges originated. The Swedish Judiciary found no case to answer and granted him permission to leave.

      Fact.

      Pending Swedish charges against Assange, despite your innuendo, do not include rape.

      Yes, as you say Mel, sometimes you need to step back and look at the actual facts.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      10:17am | 04/03/11

      Az - in Sweden. the charges against Assange constitute as rape.

    • Mel says:

      11:49am | 04/03/11

      The facts are in the ruling. Assange’s defence contains errors and untruths about his willingness to front for an interview and about the Swedish prosecutor’s continued efforts to contact him for that purpose. It also presented nothing but hearsay as evidence in regards to their objections to the prosecutor. It appears to me that the reality of events are far different from the one presented to the media and his supporters by Assange and his defence team. The image of Assange as persecuted victim of undercover elements of the Swedish government out for his blood may all be very exciting, but the facts point to something far more pedestrian and not at all unusual for a person accused of a serious crime.

      Point taken re: rape. The correct term is sexual assault. Regardless, my point was that men are rarely convicted or sexual assault or rape, therefore to set up someone for those crimes to ‘get rid of them’ doesn’t even make logical sense.

    • MD says:

      08:47am | 04/03/11

      “What they say is that they found out they were mutual lovers of mine, and they had unprotected sex and they got into a tizzy about whether there was possibility of a sexual transmitted disease… they wanted me to have a test.”

      How is that or the following sentance in any way sexist?

    • Az says:

      08:53am | 04/03/11

      Unfortunately it seems the Wikileaks phenomenon has gone out of fashion with journalists of late but your stance on Assange seems to have less to do with objective criticism and everything to do with the outrage that follows personal implication.

      That outrage is evident right through this piece as you grasp for several moral straws that I just don’t buy into.
      Your “Fire in the Theatre” analogy is way off the mark. Elected politicians have always been the self appointed arbiters of truth as they have the most to lose from it. The Electorate of any democratic country has every right to know what is being done in their name and with their ballot.

      Comparing the public scrutiny of an individual’s medical records is a red herring that fails to acknowledge that private individuals do not hold public office and do not act on behalf of their constituencies.

      It also implies that we should trust our governments to do the right thing and report truthfully when they don’t.

      That implication is either arrogant or naïve -  but given the circles you move in I would say the former.   

      “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act” – George Orwell.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      10:01am | 04/03/11

      Az - Don’t you think that there are things that Assange has released that we don’t need to know?

      The Malaysian opposition leader’s sodomy accusations for one, I mean.. this guy could be executed, you don’t think that Assange is being irresponsible? What possible benefit does releasing this ‘truth’ have? These kind of revelations don’t change the world, they make diplomacy more difficult between countries, why is that a positive thing?

      And that isn’t the only example of diplomatic gossip he’s released. It’s like a political tabloid.

      Not to mention his ‘insurance’ file, what a hypocrite. Spitting the need for truth and transparency out of one side of his mouth, but keeping hundreds of thousands of documents secret at the same time..

    • Az says:

      10:38am | 04/03/11

      Laura,

      You may be right but my view of Diplomacy may differ to yours.

      If by Diplomacy you means unethical backroom deals,  political interferring by vested interests, cover ups and illegal even dangerous political manouvering then yes, it should be harder for these things to happen.

      If by Diplomacy you mean the responsible and fair discourse between nations then the fallout from Wikileaks can only strengthen that.

      And as far as the “Insurance” files are concerned, if I was rocking the boat as much as Assange is, I would like to have a card or two up my sleeve too.

      And who decides who should see what or what is relevant to who ? Politicians ? Investigative journalists do this every day and are lauded for it, why shouldnt Assange ?

    • Grumpy says:

      10:57am | 04/03/11

      Laura - What difference does it make if he releases things we dont need to know. That is what the entire media industry does, daily, every minute in fact. I dont need to know anything that they report, i could live my entire life without reading a newspaper or watching television. As for transparency, he is not an elected official, his company or site and the individuals that work for wikileaks are private citizens, not elected to represent a tax paying public of a democratic political system.They choose to do this, regardless of the risk because a) its probably exiting, b) because they can and c) because it is now important that they do. In other words, there is in fact one set of rules for him and another for these politicians and companies who do the wrong thing. The “what if” of the information proving a conspiracy or corruption far exceeds any potential problems the release of these documents has. Any reputable media outlet would have done exactly the same thing, well not so much these days as the media has become nothing more than entertainment. As for not changing the world, he is probably one of the most famous people in the world at the moment and info from the sites pushed along what happened in Tunisia, so yes wikileaks has in fact changed the world and it will never be the same because of what Julian Assange has created. Keep taking your blue pill.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      11:16am | 04/03/11

      I don’t like Julian Assange, to tell you the truth I think that as a person, he is a massive douche. I also don’t like the fact that he is making squillions of dollars from the truth, when the soldier that gave him the files sits in lockup..
      However, he has the right to do what he is doing, and we should defend his right to do it.

      But these ‘back room deals’ you speak of, have no relevance to the Malaysian opposition leader liking or not liking a bit of sodomy..  a lot of the things that Wikileaks have released add nothing of any substance to the world as a whole, and in my opinion, shouldn’t have been released.

      Where’s the Watergate? Where’s the truth about the moonlanding? I want some UFOs dammit!

      Yeah I’m sure he does want to have a card up his sleeve, but he is being hypocrital to say that it’s OK for him to keep secrets, but the rest of the world should be hung, drawn & quartered. 

      We trust conventional media to decide what should and shouldn’t be told to the public, that might be our downfall, I don’t know. But to think that everyone in the world should know everything that goes on in political dealings is just silly.
      I know America carries on about ‘national security’ to the point where it’s ridiculous, but what about cables that would actually be national security risks? Do we really trust Assange to be responsible with that kind of information? Do we really benefit from knowing that kind of information?

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      12:13pm | 04/03/11

      Grumpy - you’ve misread & misinterpreted what I said. I said things like the Malaysian sodomy cable don’t change the world, not that wikileaks hasn’t changed the world. Two different things.

      “What difference does it make if he releases things we dont need to know. That is what the entire media industry does, daily, every minute in fact” - how often do these things concern gossip between politicians surrounding an ongoing court case that could cost a man his life? No matter how you spin it Grumpy, it’s irresponsible.

      I am aware that he is not obligated to release all his cables, but you think that it would be the ‘right thing to do’  in keeping with the wikileaks mantra of uncensored truth wouldn’t you?

    • Grumpy says:

      12:43pm | 04/03/11

      no, if everyone went around doing the right thing then there would be no need for wikileaks in the first place. The world is imperfect, he is entitled to do what ever he feels like doing. There is no hypocrisy here, the only hypocrisy i see is in the media who reprint Julians information and slander him in the same article. Surely it is understandable in his current situation, that if he is imprisoned, or his llife threatened, the documents are to be released. Its that simple.

    • mary says:

      12:53pm | 04/03/11

      Thank you for that little gem Az. I believe that sums it up perfectly,

      “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act” – George Orwell.

      All Manning and Assange have done is copy and paste truthfully, that’s way more we can say from many politicians or media etc.

      Why not crucify them for making available info to the general public which was available to some 3 million staff anyway? Yeah let’s hammer them for letting the public know what’s going on behind the scenes when our pollies play their war games with huge civilian losses.
      I rather nail those who hold back information which should be in the public domain.

    • AZ says:

      01:11pm | 04/03/11

      Laura

      If Assange is the villain in all this then by your logic, so is every media outlet that has published those leaks as they have done no more and no less than he has.

      As far as the leaked US State Dept cables go, there are 250,000 of them. Those that are of no relevance or importance to you can have major relevance to others. 

      The Malaysian sodomy thing may turn out to be unfortunate or it may not but it is a drop in a vast ocean of information that reveals the grubby deeds of elected governments working away from the public eye.

      Take the cable detailing US diplomatic plans to initiate a ‘retaliatory trade war’ against European nations who rejected US Genetically Modified foods. Just how far should governments go in their backing of private companies and who’s interests are they serving ?

      Or even the US Cable detailing UK promises to ‘Limit’  the terms of reference and protect the US during a public inquiry in the Iraq War ?
      How would you explain that to a mother or father, wife or husband who having lost a loved on in Iraq are now searching for truth and answers ?

      The list goes on - these Cables strip away that veneer of smug spin and makes politicians accountable for their actions for a change.

      And for that Assange and the media outlets who also published the leaks should be applauded.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      02:56pm | 04/03/11

      Az - Man when did I ever say he was a villian? That isn’t ‘my logic’.

      I said we should protect his right to publish the cables, not lock him up & throw away the key. I agree with you that a lot of the cables he publishes are relevant, and are useful information. But a lot of them are not. A lot of them are irresponsible, like I’ve already said.

      Everybody holds him up as a beacon of truth and liberty, and like I said in another post, Manning is rotting away in solitary whilst Assange flits around signing bookdeals & copywriting his name. That’s just plain wrong. The guy is a media whore.

      Yes, some cables that hold no significance to me, might hold vast significance to others… how is Assange to know what that significance is exactly? If he doesn’t know the significance of all the documents in his possession, how is to be expected to release them in a responsible manner.

      This Malaysian thing might not just be ‘a drop in the ocean’ Az, It might just be one thing in a long line of exposed ‘truths’ that benefit nobody, but have the capability to do real damage.
      I’m not saying he should be killed or locked up or extradited to the US, because he shouldn’t, I just wish that he’d do what he does with a little foresight & contemplation that the consequences, while they might be good for some, will undoubtedly be bad for some others, and not corrupt pollies & big business.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      03:01pm | 04/03/11

      @Grumpy - “if everyone went around doing the right thing then there would be no need for wikileaks in the first place” - Isn’t this the kinda crap Wikileaks is meant to be against? If you can’t beat ‘em join ‘em it seems.

    • What I'd like to see says:

      09:25am | 04/03/11

      Assange should be rendered to some forward operating base in Afghanistan and waterboarded until he gives up all the information he has. He should then be dressed in Afghan clothing and accompany a patrol in an enemy hotspot.

    • Ian says:

      09:45am | 04/03/11

      The CIA is embarrassed and red-faced over the Wikileaks affair and needs someone to blame for its inability to keep a secret a secret…Assange has set himself up for his fifteen minutes of glory having to answer sex charges in Sweden, God help him, and probable extradition to the US followed by life imprisonment…isn’t life wonderful.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      09:52am | 04/03/11

      I find Julian Assange to be a gigantic hypocrite. He bleats on about how there should be no more secrets, and that ‘the people’ have a right to truth regardless of consequence… yet he keeps the password for his ‘insurance’ file a secret in case he is extradited or assasinated..

    • hot tub political machine says:

      10:06am | 04/03/11

      Oh Come Mr. Danby, a guy releases sensitive information about powerful people and some long left cold charges are “suddenly” given new life? We would be extremely naive if we took that at face value.

    • AT says:

      10:09am | 04/03/11

      What a pompous, preening, precious, petulant, pouting, patronising piece of overweening crap. The infantile © riff on its own is enough to discredit everything else Danby wrote, but really, the representation of one paragraph in a very long Guardian article to make it look like Julian Assange claimed responsibility for the deaths of 1,300 Kenyans is a precise example of the self-serving cynical double-speak the political class employs to entrench their position of authority and that WikiLeaks aims to expose.

      Danby is a former very-low-on-the-food-chain politician seeking to maintain the charade of political credibility, but expressing a greater affinity with the NYT, The Guardian and the US ambassador to Australia rather than with his constituents demonstrates that his primary allegiance lies not with the people who elected him, but with a bunch of his equally autocratic mates.

      Danby invokes the aura of those foreign entities to deride a fellow Australian citizen; pathetic. It’s that sort of squalid, sordid, self-serving, disingenuous bullshit that WikiLeaks exposes. More power to their arm.

      And somebody please answer this non-rhetorical question; who composed the italicised disclaimer at the bottom of the piece? Was it Danby writing in an undisclosed third person, or was it written by a Punch editorial staffer who for inexplicable reasons felt the need to include the snide final sentence?

    • stephen says:

      10:31am | 04/03/11

      Lord Byron was :
      a Lord
      a Baron
      a husband
      a sodomite
      an anti-semite
      an incest lover
      a boxer
      lame
      sometimes fat and drunk
      a friend of thieves, murderers, prostitutes, libelers,
      and had warts.

      ...oh, and he was a Great Poet, (which, of course, just counts our Julian out.)

    • mary says:

      10:41am | 04/03/11

      //No one has the right to reveal, without your permission, your medical or personal history over the Internet world. //  What has that got to do with wikileaks?
      Not a reasonable comparison in any way whatsoever.

    • gus kohn says:

      11:22am | 04/03/11

      are the things Assange is charged with considered crimes in Britain. If not,he shouldn’t be extradited.Otherwise any petty dictator could demand the extradition of people that Are in opposition to him,which in his country is a crime.

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:26am | 04/03/11

      The maggot tossbag Assange a Hero??

      WTF?!?!

      He clicked the Browse and Upload buttons on documents stolen by somebody else. Yes, real bloody heroic!

      Whats next - Brad Manning a hero as well??

    • Chris L says:

      01:45pm | 04/03/11

      Considering how risky it is to anger what many people (not just Americans) describe as the most powerful nation on Earth by exposing their lies and secrets I think those inovled can be described as heroic. Certainly far more heroic than meat-head sports personalities or shallow celebrities.

    • Ange says:

      11:54am | 04/03/11

      Bradley Manning is most certainly a hero in my books. He exposed the US army and its cavalier approach to the taking of human life and for this he has endured 23 hours a day of solitary confinement for almost a full year.

      I understand that war is dirty and sometimes the wrong people get caught up in it but that doesn’t mean we should turn our backs and let it continue unabated just because it’s war.

      Blowing the whistle on war crimes is NOT a crime!

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      12:41pm | 04/03/11

      Yeah now Manning does the time, while Assange makes all the cash.

      That’s fair.

    • TheRealDave says:

      01:53pm | 04/03/11

      Brad Manning was a complete tool who didn’t expose shit. He stole classified documents he had access to not for any noble ‘freedom of speech’ or ‘to bring down capitalist/US aggressors/pigs/crusaders’ or any such guff. Brad Manning stole classified documents and risked the lives of thousands of his fellow soldiers and allied soldiers purely because he was pissed off he was busted down in rank after assaulting a fellow soldier and was punished by being sent to do a menial job he thought was beneath him and his self appointed status.

      I hope they lock his arse away in a Federal Military prison for a long long time…..I bet plenty of military prisoners are looking forwards to ‘catching up’ with him. And well deserved as well.

    • Realist says:

      12:59pm | 04/03/11

      Are people still talking about Assange? Bloody hell, what a self important windbag this guy is. He’s so concerned with his ‘work’ that he needs to sell the rights to his life story as a film, publish his autobiography and copyright his name!

      Fade away Julian, fade away.

    • TheRealDave says:

      01:55pm | 04/03/11

      Because clueless morons keep holding him up as a Poster Child for all that’s good and holy against he ‘ebil US gubbermint’.

      Any port in a storm huh?

      The guys a gerbil

    • The Badger says:

      03:24pm | 04/03/11

      French Soldier:
      “I don’t want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. “
      Monty Python and the Holy Grail

    • Squeeze the Middle says:

      01:26pm | 04/03/11

      Nice opinion piece supported by the opinions of others. I wonder if they’re quoting you Michael.  You’ve got quite a title too. 

      So remind me again why Australia dobbed the Bali 9 into the Indonesians? Mandatory death sentence isn’t it?

      You seem to use the word anarchist as if it’s only ever a bad thing.  I witnessed the anarchistic response by Queenslanders to the Brisbane floods.  It was beautiful. Doesn’t the Labor party claim to support free markets?  Isn’t the free market anarchistic?

    • Rick says:

      02:17pm | 04/03/11

      the Yanks have been shadow boxing since 911 hes just another victim as is evedent with the calling for his assasination in the US. If he gets extridited to Sweden next stop Quantanimo to lanquish in jail until people forget.Time to face the fact that with the illegal Iraq war the likes of J.Bush ,J. Howard ,T Blair should be the ones on trial.Its laughable that Gidafi is being put before the courts to face crimes against humanity when we know how many Iraqi civilians have been murderd by the coalition of the willing

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      02:59pm | 04/03/11

      Rick - we don’t actually know how many Iraqi civillians have been ‘murdered’ by the coalition, there is not a single body count project in Iraq that has come up with a stable number,  but no matter.

    • rick says:

      03:59pm | 04/03/11

      So think of a number between 1 and 100000

    • Toot-whistle says:

      04:17pm | 04/03/11

      Being a party animal, I have many friends. Everybody has a strong opinion about Julian Assange, even though most of us are big on having fun and not much interested in politics. Some think poor Julian suffers some sort of psychological disorder. About half of us reckon he should be imprisoned for endangering global peace. A few of my politically minded mates believe he’s some sort of new age hero. All the girls say he’s weird or, like me, think he should be exiled for being a huge egotistical wanker who has given Australians a bad name.

    • the Liberal Loafer says:

      05:52pm | 04/03/11

      all USA secrets should be revealed by Julian Assange.
      Clean out the closet straight away.
      its time to delete USA from the World map.

    • Toot-whistle says:

      06:55pm | 04/03/11

      There goes AU, too!

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      02:50am | 05/03/11

      I have no idea what this article was about but quoting sell out media like the NYT gets us nowhere.  They did hire Judith Miller to peddle Bush garbage after all, they did out Valerie Plame and they did ask permission to publish.

      And Assange was not gloating about deaths in Kenya.

      What you are really worried about now is what is coming about your precious Israel to add to the filth the Palestine papers show.

      You once said that Chistmas island was a concentration camp, you are now silent while people are going insane.

    • John Ballard says:

      12:50pm | 05/03/11

      See for a much more nuanced view Robert Manne’s article on Assange in the March issue of The Monthly, or his Wednesday interview with Philip Adams on the ABC Late Night Live website.

    • stephen says:

      05:39pm | 05/03/11

      Extracts in today’s Weekend Oz.
      And Mr.Manne isn’t always nuanced, so we’ll see.

    • Ghost of the Trilogy says:

      07:06pm | 05/03/11

      This is my Bickileak.  The USA has the goods on Sweden, so that means that country has to try and get Assange over there so he can be extadited to the other country.  It’s all a conspiracy.  Just read Stieg Larsson’s three trilogies.  This x journalist,  died by a so called heart attack,  but his writings were so close to the bone of reality.

    • Tiga says:

      10:52am | 07/02/12

      Es ist wriklich der beste Kommentar , mit Freude habe ich Zugehört.USA muss Demokratie aufs neu lernen…aus Angst habe es chon vergessen was das ist..kiki

 

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