The name Julian Assange has become synonymous with a number of freedoms. Freedom of information, freedom of expression, freedom of the press - Assange and many of his supporters champion the right of human beings to communicate with each other without governmental intervention.

Julian Assange with the entourage. Picture: Supplied

In his public statements, Assange appears to reject outright the legitimacy of restrictions by governments on their people’s freedoms to speak and to access information. In March 2008, he called on his volunteers to defend absolute freedom: “it is time to sum the great freedoms of every nation and not subtract them. It is time for the world as an international collective of communicating peoples to arise and say ‘here I am’”.

Arising and saying “here I am” is something Assange is good at. We saw this most recently in his surprise video-stoush with Julia Gillard on last night’s Q&A. The televised appearance formed part of the ongoing struggle by the “Cypherpunk Revolutionary” to liberate individual freedoms from the stranglehold of the state.

Assange’s latest play in the WikiLeaks saga may therefore have left both admirers and detractors scratching their heads. Assange has applied to the UK Intellectual Property Office to register “Julian Assange” as a trade mark.

The move is strange not because it may help Assange to capitalise on his fame. There is no rule saying cypherpunks have any less right than rockstars or politicians to profit from their celebrity. What makes Assange’s application notable is that he is seeking to benefit from a system built on a nuanced view of individual freedom.

The trade mark system is, by its nature, a balancing act between competing public interests.

On one hand, it is beneficial for consumers to be able to differentiate easily between products on the market. When you buy a Gucci handbag, a Ford Falcon or a Zumbo macaron, you are paying for certain qualities inherent to those products. If Target could call its clothes “Gucci” or a rival cafe could market “Zumbo Macarons”, the labels could no longer inform us about the products’ origins or characteristics.

On the other hand, as a rights-based society we are committed to freedom of expression and we aim to maintain the right of companies and individuals to use whichever words they like for whatever purposes they might choose.

The balance that has been struck by the trade mark system falls somewhere between the two.

In applying for a registered trade mark, Assange seeks to restrict others’ ability to use his name in certain circumstances.

One imagines the mark being used to prevent the sale of unauthorised Julian Assange tshirts or silver-haired bobble-heads.  More realistically, Assange will rely on the mark to prevent hacker organisations and similar websites from suggesting affiliations with Assange without his consent.

However, trade mark owners have been known to push the boundaries of the protection further into the domain of genuine expression.  Mattel famously took MCA Records to court over the use of the word “Barbie” in Aqua’s bubblegum pop song “Barbie Girl”.  And Coca-Cola Co prevented a company from distributing posters alluding to the fact that the popular fizzy drink once contained cocaine.

If freedom of expression can be curtailed to accommodate Assange’s own rights, this begs the question whether there might be legitimate limits on the the type of information that should be WikiLeaked.  The Afghan informants whose names and locations were leaked in mid-2010 might have something to say on that point.

If Assange’s philosophy is that freedom of information and expression should prevail at all costs, the trade mark application is a lot harder to explain.

A similar philosophical inconsistency in the pro-WikiLeaks camp came to light in December when “hacktivist” group Anonymous launched Operation Payback and Operation Avenge Assange to wreak revenge on organisations that had acted against Assange and WikiLeaks.

The hackers’ grandiloquent call to action declared that “Julian Assange deifies everything we hold dear.  He despises and fights censorship constantly.”  Readers were then implored to help to launch distributed denial of service (DDOS) attacks on MasterCard, Visa, Swedish prosecutors, Swiss bank PostFinance and Sarah Palin amongst others.

In the case of MasterCard, the cyber-attack was accompanied by a misinformation campaign.  Fellow hackers were given instructions on how to “spread word all over the web that MasterCard servers have been breached and that private account details have been revealed.  Make it viral, make people panic out of control like the stock market, killing mastercard.”

Silencing disagreement, creating panic through misinformation and applying for control over the use of certain words seem like odd behaviours for absolutist defenders of transparency and freedom of expression.

Perhaps even Julian Assange believes in shades of grey.

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    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      02:37pm | 15/03/11

      Hey, I’m still waiting for Assange to release all that good stuff on Murdoch….

    • Rollo says:

      02:57pm | 15/03/11

      Yep, that’s what went through my mind last night during Q&A with the claims about the Australian government sharing information on Aussies connected to WikiLeaks.

      If he has the information, release it!

      Still, this is the same person who complained about details of the allegations against him being leaked. Seems the public doesn’t always have the right to know.

    • acotrel says:

      04:24am | 16/03/11

      Apparently the Information he has on Murdoch is his ‘trump card’. Playing it too early would be stupid - and dangerous!

    • Erick says:

      02:42pm | 15/03/11

      Julian Assange is a joke. At the very most, he’s a figurehead for a website called WikiLeaks. He uses the information freely donated to that site, to garner publicity for himself - and to further his own leftist agenda.

      The real “heroes”, if you want to call them that, are those who provided that leaked information, often at great risk. The most famous leaks, from the US Secret files, were all the work of a lowly Army Private called Bradley Manning. He is the one who really deserves public recognition.

      Manning faces possible life imprisonment for his betrayal of trust. And this is entirely appropriate for a traitor.

      However, Assange is really just a parasite on Manning’s crime. Julian gets all the credit, Bradley gets all the punishment. Such is life.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      03:24pm | 15/03/11

      Yep Erick I couldn’t agree more. Manning sits in isolation & Assange flits about signing book deals, trademarking his name & holding himself up as a beacon of righteousness, he’s a media whore.

    • GCC says:

      07:51pm | 15/03/11

      Erick, I’ve known Julian (proff) for almost 20 years and I couldn’t agree more. I don’t agree however that those who leaked this information are heroes, they have knowingly committed a serious offense which has cost people their lives. Those who leaked the information will be held to account.

    • Worlok says:

      12:50am | 16/03/11

      GCC,
      I knew proff as well - the guy was an overconfindent asshole, willing to abuse peoples trust and break the law whenever h felt it was in his best interests (and when he would not get caught) - as much as i admire wikileaks, he his attitude and blunt denial on people calling him out on being an asshole who cares nothing about his own fame can do wikileaks and the people and websites that preceeded it nothing but harm.

    • acotrel says:

      04:31am | 16/03/11

      ‘He uses the information freely donated to that site, to garner publicity for himself - and to further his own leftist agenda.’
      Erick, I believe Julia Gillard is correct about Assange.  HIs ambitions are anarchic, neither left ot right politically. There is a saying - ‘information is meant to be free’.  That has implications for the old ‘democracy and control’ conundrum.  I believe his intention is to turn our social system on it’s head and introduce a new paradigm based on truth.  That could be either good or bad depending on how much you depend on deception in your life.

    • Erick says:

      04:56am | 16/03/11

      GCC, I put the word “heroes” in inverted commas, to signify that while some people might regard them as heroes, I do not.

    • Don says:

      05:26am | 16/03/11

      Agree with you 100% there. The only thing that wikileaks will achieve is to strengthen tyrannies and weaken democracies. Have we had any leaks form China, North Korea, Burma yet? No? Why not? They have a mountain of secrets surely and yet still not a murmur on the site - amazing!!!

    • Muttley says:

      07:44am | 16/03/11

      Acotrel, you give this clown waay too much credit. Attempting social change? LOL pull the other one.

    • Caz Jones says:

      09:17am | 16/03/11

      Manning is a “traitor” - when he hasn’t even had his day in court?? Prove the betrayl Eric instead of speculating. Here we go more kangaroo courts.

      Murdoch hasn’t been gleefully profiting from the leaks too? Hypocrisy anyone?

    • Sherekahn says:

      09:47am | 16/03/11

      GAWD help us all Erick!
      You along with 90% of the ‘civilised’ world seem happy living with a life of false values-information-directives.
      Truth is the only sane ingredient to make decisions on.
      Governments are no better than advertising agencies.  Their intent is to beguile you to go their way.

    • Dr B S Goh says:

      02:43pm | 15/03/11

      WikiLeaks is a serious threat to Australia itself and its relationships with other countries. It destroys the process to achieve a good Govt and good International Relationships. It gives our enemies some advantages. The Govt process must get advice from people who vigorously oppose Govt policies. With Wikileaks ALL Advisers and Civil Servants are forced to give Advice which may be WRONG and Useless.
      For Example I checked the CSIRO website to see what they say about the OVERPOPULATED Minke whales which the Japanese cull. It says it is a species of least concern which is a weak and diplomatic language that it is no worry at all. So we have inadvertently INCREASED the Risk of EXTINCTION of the BLUE whales at 2,500 down from an original population of 230,000. We claimed we are out to save whales. But we ended up giving a big kick towards extinction of the Blue whales which suffers from strong competition by the Minke whales which the Japanese culled.
      These few days there is unnecessary tensions between US and Indonesia caused directly by WikiLeaks on issues that the Politically Correct People get very excited about but of no consequence to Strategic International Relationships.

    • John A Neve says:

      04:11pm | 15/03/11

      Dr B S Goh,
      I loved it, I have no idea what you are talking about, but I loved it. When I have trouble sleeping, I’ll read it again. It’s got to be better than sheep.

    • Dave says:

      04:45pm | 15/03/11

      @John A Neve: If there was a ‘like’ button I’d press it! I’ve no idea what he’s blubbering about either.

    • Reggie says:

      08:16pm | 15/03/11

      It alright Dr, I understand exactly what you’re saying. Particularly about the need to provide incorrect information on the assumption that it would be leaked.

      This only promotes the need for another strata of secrecy to which only the elite are privy.  And…while we’re at it, ... John and Dave would not be on the “read and eat” list. As lightweights they’d have wafted off in the breeze.  smile

      Down the drain goes the veracity of a “like” button.

    • Joel B1 says:

      12:07pm | 16/03/11

      Dr Goh, recently you stated that you corrected a formula for the Lunar landing way back in pre-computer days etc. Now you say this.

      I’m sorry but it really does seem that the moon landings were a really big hoax.

    • Dr B S Goh says:

      01:13pm | 16/03/11

      @ Joel B1.  In 1964 as a student I listened to a lecture by Paul Erhlich of Stanford University on the “Population Bomb”. Also during that time we had the Mother of all Environmental Movements, “Silent Spring” by R Carson on how DDT was poisoning the Earth. So I have researched and worked on Environmental problems and food production for more than 40 years.

      In 1969 I became the first person in the World to bring Rocket Science to Fisheries Management. I was asked at that time to apply for a job at a leading US University in Fisheries but I did not do so.

      For us who work on Rocket Science at that time we are very confident the US Moon landing in 1969 was not a hoax because we are the ones who did the detailed calculations and we knew it can be done.

      There were computers at that time of the Moon Landing in 1969 and they were used effectively for our calculations. With due respect to you, you may be thinking of the Personal Computers which were invented later on in the 1980s.

    • Zeta says:

      02:49pm | 15/03/11

      “Cypherpunk Revolutionary”...

      Does that make the Taliban ‘Khyberpunks’?

      I didn’t think of that, it was Bruce Bethke. Who coined the phrase ‘cyberpunk’.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      03:12pm | 15/03/11

      That is a copyright symbol, not a trademark symbol.

    • Shenanigans says:

      08:35am | 16/03/11

      well spotted good sir.

    • Steve of Cornubia says:

      03:16pm | 15/03/11

      I don’t agree with Gillard very often, but I agree with her views expressed last night regarding Assange. Whistle-blowing can be a noble act when carried out to protect the innocent or thwart crime, but I feel Assange’s motives are less pure. He is clearly anti-authority and has a particular dislike of the US. This seems to inform what he does, so it’s more of a personal vendetta against authority. This even extends to ‘leaking’ material that doesn’t have any obvious benefit in terms of freedom or truth - it’s only function seems to be embarrassing diplomats and increasing Assange’s own fame.

    • fairsfair says:

      03:36pm | 15/03/11

      I agree entirely with what you said Steve, but at the same time she didn’t really answer the question.

      The questions surrounded the legality of it all. It was not about morality or personal view. She answered that question from a moral perspective when the question and her original comments about him was about what laws he had broken.

    • Steve of Cornubia says:

      07:34pm | 15/03/11

      @fairsfair: You’re right, she didn’t. But she never answers any question. I doubt she would give an honest answer if you asked what she ate for breakfast.

    • Holly says:

      03:16pm | 15/03/11

      I agree entirely with Eric - now that is a first!

      Assange completely lost any shred of credibility when he failed during his recent extradition case, to advise the court in England that he had fled Sweden to avoid being questioned by the police.  That was not he version of events he wanted the world to know about.  Of course it is in his interests (and probably his nature) to play the martyr.  A very self interested man and probably a sleaze to boot.

    • billy says:

      03:34pm | 15/03/11

      These doc’s that were leaked to him weren’t they obtain by a solder who stole them off the US. If that’s the case isn’t it illegal to Knowingly accepting stolen property.

    • Erick says:

      03:38pm | 15/03/11

      Definitely a very self interested man, and definitely a sleaze as well.

      But a rapist? I doubt that. Wanker that he is, Assange has nevertheless aroused many enemies, and they are using any tactics they can to discredit him.

      Meanwhile, the people who actually leaked the information that Assange exploited are forgotten ...

      I don’t even sympathise with those people. A soldier like Bradley Manning who betrayed his trust is a slimy traitor of the worst kind. But at least his role should be acknowledged in public, rather than that of a stand-up fake publicity hound such as Assange.

    • acotrel says:

      04:37am | 16/03/11

      @Holly
      ’ A very self interested man and probably a sleaze to boot. ’ 
      Do I detect a moralising note here?  Sort of like the implication that the aborigines were into pornography, when Howard wanted to use them as election fodder?

    • AT says:

      03:23pm | 15/03/11

      What an astonishingly duplicitous and silly article. Half the piece craps on about trademarks and makes all manner of outrageous allusions; the trademarked Coke-Cola prevented distribution of posters saying coke used to contain coke.

      Right.

      And?

      What does that have to do with Assange trademarking his name? Are you suggesting he intends exploiting his trademark in a manner similarly dishonourable as coke?

      The other half of the article makes deceitful allusions seeking to link Anonymous to Assange and a pompous assertion that Afghan informants named by WikiLeaks would have “something to say” about WikiLeaks’ freedom. Well, there is no link between the pimply Anonymous hacktivists/pranksters and, I put it to you, my learned friend, if Afghan informants did have “something to say” they would’ve said by now.

      This assault by lawyers/politicians/old media on Assange is becoming extremely tedious. The more empty pieces like this are pumped out, the faster those institutions will be even further discredited and the more the WikiLeaks sentiment will flourish.

    • Rev says:

      03:49pm | 15/03/11

      Lol.

      I’m sure the Afghan informants are just champing at the bit to get their name in the news again.

    • bobw says:

      04:16pm | 15/03/11

      @AT:  I agree with your general sentiment.  The article conflates so many unrelated matters that it’s hard to know where to start.  To make matters worse, it basically attacks a caricature of Assange.  The following statement is particularly ludicrous:

      “If freedom of expression can be curtailed to accommodate Assange’s own rights, this begs the question whether there might be legitimate limits on the the type of information that should be WikiLeaked.”

      I would desrcribe the link being made here as specious, but for the fact that it doesn’t actually have the air of plausibility needed to attract that description.

      As for the Coca Cola/Mattel thing, I have no idea what the author’s point is supposed to be.  Both of the (American) lawsuits referred to were defensibly resolved.  But that aside, they really don’t tell us anything about the implications of Assange trademarking his name in Britain.

      Whether Assange is a nice man, or a force for good, is certainly open to question.  But the contorted allegation of hypocrisy levelled above hardly bolsters the anti-Assange case.

    • AT says:

      05:56pm | 15/03/11

      You’re being sarcastic, right, Rev?

      The world is a little more complex than the cartoon I suspect you view it as. If Afghan informants had “something to say”, you would have heard about it. For one, any number of WiliLeaks’ detractors would’ve rushed to their keyboards to tell all. I’ll let you decide if they’d have been likely to show any more respect for the informants privacy than some claim WikiLeaks showed.

      Meantime, can you name any Afghan informer?

    • AdamC says:

      03:38pm | 15/03/11

      Hasn’t Julian Assange become yesteday’s story?

      His leaks seem to have been quite the fizzer. Wasn’t he supposed to be bringing down a major bank in disgrace? What have his diplomatic cable leaks shown us that we didn’t already know? And even his complaints about Swedish prosectorial conspiracies have started to look fanciful, or deluded.

      And I don’t agree that you can argue that Assange’s provision of a facility for the release of legitimately confidential information makes him a champion of free speech. Assange isn’t a journalist, he’s just a professional narcissist. Maybe if we all stop paying attention to him, he’ll just go away.

    • Hamish says:

      03:48pm | 15/03/11

      Wikileaks is just a vehicle for the self-promotion of Julian Assange. There is no doubt that any ‘free-speech’ goals are subservient to his own desire for notoriety. You know someone’s a bit of a non-event when John Pilger is their biggest fan.

    • michael j says:

      03:39pm | 15/03/11

      He was my hero but now its all over,good bye fuck off fare well,,,,,,,

    • J.R says:

      03:47pm | 15/03/11

      For some odd reason, everyone bought into this idea of Assange as some great visionary, a champion of justice. I went to a rally in protest of the government’s suggestion to cancel his passport, and the rally-leaders were seriously telling us to chant “Assange is a Hero!”. It fizzled out and I certainly didn’t join in, but the Marxist group that was present and advertising certainly made it clear to me that people were seriously confused about Assange.

      The guy is an anarchist in the pure sense that he doesn’t seem to have a side, doesn’t seem to have “morals” as we know them and is profiting from the possibly illegal distribution of top-secret information. The Left is currently lamenting the fact that he’s not this great “hero” they were making him out to be and now we’re being fed articles about him betraying/disappointing his supporters.

      If you’d been smart enough in the first place, you would have seen where this guy was headed: nowhere. He’s causing trouble because he can, not because he has a definite goal to achieve at the end of it all.

    • Richard says:

      03:48pm | 15/03/11

      So now Assange is the world’s most despised persona non grata now? Its seems that way by the looks of this article and all these comments.

      Does the man have flaws? Of course. Is he egotistical? Well whichever one of you has sat in meditation for 20 years to kill the “self” can throw the first stone.

      But he stood up for us, the little guys, the ones who get lied to by the powers that be, the ones who get treated like mushrooms (kept in the dark and fed bullshit). He tried to do a big thing, and all you petty petty people can do is sit there sanctimoniously and whinge about him. You disgust me. All of you.

      Erick! The man is a victim of misandryist conspiracy manifested in Swedish “rape” laws, how can you not defend him? He is not a leftist, he is a libertarian. He isn’t perfect, but he deserves support from the people who he was trying to help.

      Yes Manning’s case is extremely unfortunate. But from his sacrifice each and every one of our lives has been enhanced and our knowledge increased, and Assange was the man who facilitated that. Do you have no gratitude, you sniping sooky vultures?

      You are playing into the hands of the secretive elitists who are manipulating you to feel this way. REBEL! Exercise free thought, or else sink bank into inanity and keep quiet.

    • Erick says:

      04:31pm | 15/03/11

      @Richard - I am defending Assange against the false rape charges! Didn’t you see my post at 3.38pm above?

      However, while I believe he is innocent of rape, that doesn’t erase my opinion that he is a grandstanding, publicity obsessed dickhead who profits from the sacrifice of others. Tell me, how often has Assange used his massive profile to draw attention to the imprisonment of Bradley Manning - the guy who actually gave him all those famous leaks?

      Scumbags, the lot of them.

    • Voxpop says:

      11:06am | 16/03/11

      Erick - Assange has to keep silent on Manning or he will be the one to send him up shit creek.  Wikileaks must keep the whistleblowers identity protected.  While that hasn’t stopped him in condemning both the calls for his assasination as well as the treatment of USA political prisoners in particular Manning.

    • Erick says:

      12:40pm | 16/03/11

      That’s actually a good point about Assange protecting Manning, Voxpop.

      But how can you call Manning a “political prisoner”? He has been charged with crimes based on the preponderance of evidence, with no political motive. Even if you think he’s a hero, what Manning is alleged to have done is both illegal and a betrayal of trust.

    • AmieG says:

      01:56pm | 14/04/11

      Thank you Richard, finally someone with a bit of sense has commented.

    • Bruce says:

      04:37pm | 15/03/11

      I wonder what the reaction would have been had “Assange” asked the same question to Tony Abbott ? There would have been a public outcry from the greens and the lefty’s and Tony Jones would have pursed Tony Abbott to the earths end.

    • acotrel says:

      06:31am | 16/03/11

      @Bruce A self-confessed liar like Abbott is worth pursuing to the earth’s end!

    • Bruce says:

      09:04am | 16/03/11

      Acotrel: Therefore Juliar must be on the edge of the earth now !

    • Aitch says:

      04:44pm | 15/03/11

      Take a good look at the earnest wankers in the photo. One shudders at the vastness of the fluent wank spoken when they gather to stroke their chins in Geoffrey’s “chambers”.

    • dandy says:

      07:56pm | 15/03/11

      What, like Jooliar’s pic with the Independents and Greens? I think Assange is a wanker, but Jooliar is worse.

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      04:59pm | 15/03/11

      Bali 9 were turned in by the Australian government, three are on death row in breach of our laws,  David Hicks and Mamdouh Habib were tortured thanks to the Australian government,  Jack Thomas was tortured by Pakistan because of our government.

      A young lady named Shiloh arbitrarily had her passport cancelled and false information was given to Yemen who jailed her and left her two little kids alone.

      How dare you frigging clowns blame the messenger.

      Gillard said off the bat that Assange was a criminal - he is not.  All the conservatives in this country need to take a cold shower and have a good lie down because you talk unmitigated and ignorant crap.

    • Denny Crane says:

      05:41pm | 15/03/11

      bali ( were betrayed by Whitlam. What a hero of the people eh Marilyn? Hicks and Habib were terrorists and should still be in goal.

      Last time I saw Gillard was of the left of the left political party.

      You know its often said better to shut your mouth and be thought a fool..

    • stephen says:

      07:23pm | 15/03/11

      In response to Marilyn Shepherd I’d like to say that the Israeli Government is going to respond to any more violence with more settlements being established in the West Bank.
      And the Jews are right.
      If Palestine cannot respond, intellectually, and as part of the modern world, and even as an ally of the Arab League, then they’ll soon not even have the support of Jordan and Syria, which are soon to test the League’s mettle.
      Any more violence, and they won’t have a friend in Hell.

    • AdamC says:

      09:41pm | 15/03/11

      Maz, this comment is pretty irrelevant to the topic, even for you. What is the Australian government supposed to do for Julian Assange? Australians aren’t immune from prosecution overseas, even if some foreign laws seem peculiar to us.

    • mary says:

      06:28am | 16/03/11

      @Marilyn Couldn’t agree more re shooting down a messenger. Can’t believe the comments here and only hope for all these wise people never to be pitched against the government because as a result of following their conscience. I have a number of times and it is astonishing to watch the wolves come out of the dark corners for a feast. I keep forgetting this is the country which knew better what happened to Azaria than her mum did. Vultures.

      Judges and juries behind their almighty keyboards. Mateship in Australia .. what a joke.

    • xyz says:

      01:37pm | 16/03/11

      AdamC, Maz’s comments are very relevant if you watched Q&A the other night where Julia Gillard (while answering Assange’s question) stated that the Austalian Government will never extradite someone to a country that may enforce the death penalty on that person. In the case of the Bali 9, the AFP dobbed them into the Indonesian authorities which has led directly to 3 of them now facing the death penalty in Bali.

    • Steve says:

      07:37pm | 15/03/11

      ...than to type on your keyboard, confuse the Bali 9 and the Balibo 5, and remove all doubt?

    • TracyH says:

      10:56am | 16/03/11

      @Steve…choked on my coffee!!!!!!! GUFFAW smile

    • Voxpop says:

      11:16am | 16/03/11

      LOL Gold :D

      While Marilyn comes across a bit angry (understandable in this place)her comment has more relevance than the stupid OP on trade marks.

    • Doh says:

      09:25pm | 15/03/11

      He also represents freedom of responsibility….his own.

      What a hack (not -er)

    • M. says:

      09:38pm | 15/03/11

      An insightful and well thought out piece.  It’s important that people like Assange with such pervasive public profiles ensure their actions are consistent with the idealogical platforms they so vigorously promote.  Keep up the good work Ms Lux!

    • bobw says:

      10:29pm | 15/03/11

      You must be Ms Lux’s mother.

    • M. says:

      09:40pm | 15/03/11

      An insightful and well thought out piece.  It’s important that people like Assange with such pervasive public profiles ensure their actions are consistent with the idealogical platforms they so vigorously promote.  Keep up the good work Ms Lux!

    • michael says:

      06:53am | 16/03/11

      Yawn.  Yet another confused rant by someone who can’t tell the difference between personal rights and government rights.

      Governments must be transparent and accountable to the people who they represent.  Individuals have no such obligation to the general public at large.  If the government is unwilling to be transparent on its own, then whistleblowers are the only option to protect ALL OF US from their misdeeds - by exposing them.

      If you think holding your government to account is so terrible then you’re a bloody idiot.

    • annie says:

      09:22am | 16/03/11

      @michael shouldn’t revolutionaries practice what they preach?

    • bobw says:

      09:51am | 16/03/11

      @annie:  Michael’s point - valid, in my view - is that this article’s attempt to play the hypocrisy card is misconceived, because it relies on pitting incommensurables against one another.

      Speaking more broadly, it’s funny that the article has attracted over 50 comments yet only about 7% of them actually engage with the content.  Most of them might as well be responses to a post along the following lines:

      “Julian Assange.  Discuss.”

      Says it all really.

    • Joel B1 says:

      12:00pm | 16/03/11

      Umm, Assange is NOT a hacker. He’s a publisher, just like News Corp or whatever.

      So how about getting your headline correct?

    • TheRealDave says:

      12:00pm | 16/03/11

      I love the Wikileaks saga and associated ongoing dramas. With each passing day it merely proves my point that the ‘meeja’ are the Pied Pipers leading a bunch of morons aroudn by the nose. We need more people like Julian Assange. Their unmitigated gall and stupidity is fantastic for highlighting the absolute sheep in our society. The clowns who can’t think for themselves and jump from bandwagon to bandwagon. If only we could tag them with flouro paint before releasing them back into society just so other people can avoid them.

    • annie says:

      12:31pm | 16/03/11

      @bobw: good point.

      i think it kind of misses the point of the article though.

      to me what the article is saying is that if you accept the validity of limiting individual freedoms in some circs - eg to protect your name - this acknowledges as legitimate a process of questioning whether, in a given circumstance, some restriction on individual freedoms might be appropriate in service of the overall public interest.

      it says “remember to ask the question” when considering whether freedom should be absolute in a certain situation, not that the answer should be or will be anti-WL or anti-Assange. 

      I didn’t get the impression that the message here is that “holding your government to account is so terrible” @michael but that the question of WL is a complex one that we should evaluate actively rather than accept blindly. 

      i agree the TM thing isn’t that relevant but I think it’s just given as an eg of where assange himself recognises the need to balance our desire for total freedom with other considerations.  i think it’s pretty fair enough to say that starkly contrasts the black and white nature of the WL debate.

    • bobw says:

      01:37pm | 16/03/11

      @annie:  I think the article imputes an absolutist position to Assange without first establishing that it reflects his beliefs - and then uses the scarecrow thus constructed as a basis for the implication of hypocrisy.  Hence, my earlier comment that the author is attacking a caricature.  Indeed, the author essentially acknowledges the black hole behind her suggestions about Assange and his “nuanced view of individual freedom” when she says “IF Assange’s philosophy is that freedom of information and expression should prevail at all costs…”  It’s a big if given that the “philosophical inconsistency” to which the first half of the article is directed simply melts away if the author’s tacit assumptions are wrong.

      Anyway, there’s simply no reason why a commitment to freeing up public information should disqualify one from recourse to intellectual property law.  IP laws serve particular purposes and protect particular interests, and airy talk of “freedom of information” and “freedom of expression” doesn’t suffice to assimilate the kind of issues that IP law raises to those raised by WL.  The supposed “parallel” being drawn by the author is not a very meaningful one.

      I agree with you that WL raises some complex questions, but in my view articles like this do little more than confuse the issue.

    • annie says:

      03:11pm | 16/03/11

      @bobw that’s exaclty the point - she does say IF.  she never says assange IS hypocritical.  i think she is saying that the popular campaign on WL and assange’s ‘motivational’ public statements and calls to action have been conducted AS THOUGH assange = absolutism and that IF this is the case, the tm app is hard to explain.  BUT that since assange has recognised, albeit implicitly, room for nuance (eg though tm app), perhaps the absolutist approach is NOT representative of his actual views (“Perhaps even Julian Assange believes in shades of gray”) and people should be able to question the legitimacy of the WL info releases in light of competing interests without being pro-totalitarian conservatives.

      eg when the names and locations of the afghans who had helped the US army were leaked and the taliban said they would go after the informants, there was no indication from WL that this may have been a situation in which our collective interest in freedom of info might have bowed to something else - the right to safety and potentially to life of those particular people.

      i don’t read the article at all as saying assange should be disqualified from recourse to IP law but that the acknowledgment inherent in the TM app recognises that you can validly ASK the question, in a situation such as the afghan example, whether this too might be a case in which competing interests should outweigh the freedoms of the collective.

    • bobw says:

      03:58pm | 16/03/11

      @Annie:  “she does say IF.  she never says assange IS hypocritical.”

      No, but that is the clear implication - note all the talk of “philosophical inconsistency”, pushing trademark protection “into the domain of genuine expression” etc.  The author suggests that there is something illegitimate or dubious about the trademark application, eg:

      “The move is strange [because Assange] is seeking to benefit from a system built on a nuanced view of individual freedom.” 

      It’s only “strange” if your foundational assumption is that Assange has implicitly disclaimed a “nuanced view”.

      On the other hand, if the central point genuinely turns on a massive “if”, why even write the article?  It basically puts you in the realm of the hypothetical.

      As for the TM/WL analogy, the public interest in open government - to use broadbrush shorthand - is in no way comparable to any public interest in keeping Assange’s name unencumbered by trademark protection.  The link being made is just weird. 

      That individual rights are likely to conflict with collective rights is simply a truism, but the analogy doesn’t shed any light on its implications in the present case.

    • annie says:

      03:29pm | 16/03/11

      lol the caps make it look like i’m shouting.  i’m not.

    • bobw says:

      04:01pm | 16/03/11

      Heh - no offence taken.  Sometimes a convenient italics function would be helpful…

    • annie says:

      07:10pm | 16/03/11

      @bobw: “if the central point genuinely turns on a massive “if”, why even write the article?”

      I think the answer is because the WL debate has, and i think this is uncontroversial to say, been played out on a very absolutist scale. 

      You have to admit that, regardless of his personal thoughts/beliefs, Assange has become a symbol for something quite extreme (this can be extreme good or extreme bad, depending on your view).  There is a sense that if you question or criticise, at all, in any way, the idea that all information should be out there and all government/diplomatic secrets should be ‘outed’, you are immediately considered to be anti-assange and anti-freedom.  As much seems to be evident in a lot of the comments on this piece in fact - agree or disagree with the author, I think it’s a pretty huge leap to suggest that what’s been written is, for example, “astonishingly duplicitous” or “deceitful” @AT.

      I think it’s fair to say that Assange has, in his public statements, welcomed an interpretaiton of what he is setting out to achieve that is no-holds-barred.  there doesn’t seem to be much, if any, acknowledgment from assange of ANY situation in which diplomatic or governmental confidentiality CAN play an important and valid role.

      @bobw “The link being made is just weird” - I agree with you here that the author has fudged in conflating the concepts of (a) freedom of information and (b) freedom of expression.  it’s certainly an imperfect analogy.  But I still think the broader point is an important one: despite the big fat “IF” that we have discussed representing the fact that none of us can attest to assange’s actual motives, the article points out inconsistencies in the sometimes-absolutist and sometimes-nuanced approach that has been taken. 

      inconsistently with the pro-WL sense that individual liberties must always be king at all costs, there has been a recognition here by assange that sometimes, conflicting public interests need to be balanced and it’s not always appropriate for individual liberty to be king. 

      over and out.

    • bobw says:

      10:57am | 17/03/11

      @annie:

      “Assange has become a symbol for something quite extreme”

      True - but I don’t think that justifies people in the media perpetuating the one-dimensionality.  If it’s going to be suggested that Assange is a hypocrite, I’d like to see a better, more subtle case for it than the one made above.

      “I think it’s a pretty huge leap to suggest that what’s been written is, for example, “astonishingly duplicitous” or “deceitful” @AT.”

      Yes, fair enough.  I should have been more specific about what it was in AT’s post that I agreed with.  Those terms are a bit harsh - but I reserve the right to go with “undercooked” wink

      “assange [doesn’t seem to acknowledge] ANY situation in which ... governmental confidentiality CAN play a ... valid role”

      Perhaps, but my point is that even if that is true, it doesn’t say anything at all about what he ought to think about IP.  Different fields, different kinds of interests being balanced.  I don’t think there’s necessarily any overall inconsistency in taking an absolutist approach to some issues and a nuanced approach to other (unrelated) issues - IF indeed that’s what Assange has done.

      “over and out.”

      Yes, I think we’re about as much on the same page as we’re likely to get!  Nice having a sensible, non-abusive “disagreement” with you - all too rare on The Punch.

    • annie says:

      11:39am | 17/03/11

      right back atcha wink

 

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