Sue O’Reilly, who has guest written today’s column on The Angry Cripple is a freelance journalist and the mother of a 21-year-old son with cerebral palsy. She co-founded Australians Mad as Hell last year with Fiona Porter to campaign for an NDIS and established a charity called Fighting Chance to help people with disabilities pay for essential therapy services.

Try sitting in a wheelchair all day.

Q: What do disability reform campaigners have to do to persuade Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott to spend some time talking to actual people with severe disabilities and family carers, prior to making a landmark decision on disability reform later this year that will directly affect the lives of several million Australians every day for decades to come?

A:  Raise at least $31,200, obtain tickets for the federal parliamentary press gallery’s exclusive annual mid-winter ball, and then bid at an auction for a few hours of our political leaders’ precious time.

Yes indeed. Seems if you’ve got enough money, then getting Julia Gillard’s or Tony Abbott’s attention is not that seemingly impossible a task.

Recently, the right-on campaigning group GetUp successfully bid $31,100 for a dinner date for six with the PM, then promptly announced the diners would be three same-sex couples keen to upbraid Gillard on her refusal to countenance gay marriage.

GetUp won last year’s auction as well, shelling out $16,100 to secure a surfing lesson for an Afghan refugee with Tony Abbott in a bid to change the Opposition leader’s tough stance on boat people. (Hopefully the refugee at least learnt how to stay on a surfboard, but otherwise GetUp should probably be requesting a refund.)

The auction for face-to-face time with the PM - with all proceeds going to charity - was billed as “a unique opportunity for corporate Australia”. But, said GetUp director Simon Sheikh, “rather than dining with business leaders, Julia Gillard will be forced to make the case as to why same-sex couples cannot have their relationships recognised in the same way other Australians do.”

If only the lifelong suffering of a couple of million Australians – people with severe dependent disabilities, along with their mothers, fathers, wives, husbands and/or children was as achingly trendy as the same-sex marriage issue!

Because then GetUp! (as it styles itself) might actually have shown some interest in campaigning on this issue too, as many thousands of people have been begging it for at least the last 18 months to do! (Sorry, this exclamation mark thing is a bit contagious.)  As for Gillard and Abbott…

Two months ago, I wrote to both leaders, requesting they spend some time with a person with a severe disability prior to deciding whether Australia could “afford” to dump its deeply dysfunctional, crisis-driven, wasteful, inequitable and inefficient disability support system, currently run by nine State/Territory and federal departments, and replace it with one transformational National Disability Insurance Scheme.

This invitation was entirely open-ended: any place and date convenient to them, at any time in the next several months.

Gillard’s appointments secretary promptly replied with the stock answer that “unfortunately, it is simply not possible for the Prime Minister to accept all of the requests she receives, and on this occasion, we regret she is unable to participate.”

Tony Abbott’s office, meanwhile, politely advised he would give the invitation “consideration”. Two months later, after numerous follow-up emails and phone calls, his office finally broke the bad news that Tony wasn’t interested either; not that they put it so bluntly of course, but that was the take-home message.

Just one day later his deputy, Julie Bishop, burst into print on The National Times website, opining that “Australia is among the world’s leading nations when it comes to disability support” – a view presumably based on comparing Australia with Ethiopia, Cambodia, Tibet and The Democratic Republic of the Congo.

It could be argued, I suppose, that our national political leaders do not actually need to witness at first hand the daily anguish, desperation and poverty in which some two million Australians live – hundreds of thousands of people with severe disabilities, along with parents, spouses, siblings and/or children.

Perhaps there are more than enough parliamentary and other official reports floating around (or gathering dust) to enable the Gillard government to decide whether or not to introduce an NDIS or, in the Opposition’s case, support its introduction.

But, as the recent homelessness sleep-out by hundreds of corporate executives demonstrated - not to mention GetUp’s auction spend – the best single way for anyone to get a handle on the suffering of others is to experience it at first hand, up close and personal.

In the case of severely disabled Australians, it would be ideal if Julia could spend three years waiting for a wheelchair, or Tony could try applying for essential therapy for a severely disabled son or daughter. 

Failing that though, a few hours of their time would be an acceptable substitute. But no – too busy even for a few hours. Too busy even for a decent, thoughtful reply.

I thought for a brief moment of suggesting that all of us who care about disability reform start a fund prior to next year’s auction, contributing 50 cents a week out of our pensions, so we might at least have a chance of paying for some face time with our political leaders.

But then I realised that by this time next year, the decision on an NDIS will have been made. And by then, chances are, it will simply be too late.

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    • annie j says:

      05:59am | 29/06/11

      write to tony abbott and you get a reply write to julie gillard and you never get a reply. that may tell you something

    • Cathy says:

      08:12am | 29/06/11

      I heard that Tony Abbott agree to do this last week - spend the day with a person living with disability.  Has Juliar agreed yet? Thought not.

      To be fair to Julie Bishop that she was talking about disability support (welfare payments) rather than disability services.

      As for GET UP we all know it were formed as part of the far left agenda,  So what else do you expect from them? Get Up is now sending links to try to get people to outvote the peoples choice - the NDIS. Get Up ihas become a parody rather than anyones voice.

    • Dennis says:

      08:53am | 29/06/11

      Cathy its all for publicity for him not the diabled. If he was genuine he would of done it quitly first but he is just looking for publicity. Julia is the same

    • iansand says:

      09:46am | 29/06/11

      I wrote to Tony Abbott once, on behalf of my child’s school P&C (he was my local member).  I got a stock reply promising that someone would look into the problem.  I did not have Ms O’Reilly’s persistence and gave up after a couple of follow up attempts.  All front and no substance.  On the other hand, to her credit, Bronny Bishop was brilliant as a local member (the problem affected both electorates).

    • atthepub says:

      02:17pm | 29/06/11

      Is my experience too annie.

      Actually with tony a response within a day or so. With julia   m a y b e   after a couple of months.

    • Kevin says:

      03:07pm | 29/06/11

      @atthepub
      JG is the prime minister.  I’m sure she has plenty to do besides responding to each and every letter writer.
      TA, on the other hand, has plenty of time on his hands if his jaunt to Nauru and his marathons are anything to go by.  And it’s not like he’s busy developing alternative policies.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      07:47pm | 29/06/11

      i wonder which one of the Village People Tony will be dressed as today.

      I would prefer he let everyone else do their job and he do his- which isn’t playing dress-up to impress the impressionable..

    • wanda says:

      04:52pm | 30/06/11

      And try and find a minister in this current Government who doesn’t have a disability !?! they are like a work for the dole training project.

    • Edward James says:

      06:38am | 29/06/11

      Sue you are right to be angry, People are not only peddling influence those with cash are able to pay whatever it cost to sit with our leaders. The entitlements which so many take for granted do not really flow down to the severely disabled or in so many cases even the disabled. There have been politicians and still are I expect in wheelchairs. But it is the people who are fully or almost fully dependent on their aging parents or life partners. People who have in the past just quietly “got on with it”  while in many instances their close family support group is slowly dying off. Your angry cripple by line is very instructive Sue thank you. What a surprise it would be for us to hear or read about how both Federal Leaders Tony and Julia have obtained first hand experience of the extra load being a full time carer brings with it to an otherwise ordinary life. Washing and bathing even assisting with toilet or colostomy bags would be a very big wake up call to those at the top whom we trust to act in the best interest of all the peoples! Edward James.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      08:16am | 29/06/11

      I am not sure whether I should sympathize with what you are trying say. I was brought up in Fiji where there is no help given to families with disabilities. The families just get on with the job of taking care of their loved one, they don’t expect anyone else to do it for them. Financial help would be most welcomed but unfortunately it doesn’t happen in undeveloped countries like Fiji. To expect the PM and the Opposition leader to take time off and spend with this small section of society only to be informed of what is needed for their survival is a bit rich I think. We and the two leaders know the hardships faced when caring for those with disabilities and am certain that if more can be done to make life easier for everyone involved it would be done.

      Look at the positive, we are lucky to be living in Australia where some help is granted.

    • Dennis says:

      08:59am | 29/06/11

      No 1 Rosie my mum was born in Suva and she says the same thing. She works as an Assistant Nurse in a nursing home and she sees firsthand the neglect for the elderly and disabled by their own families. Its sad what this world is coming to.

    • Edward James says:

      09:13am | 29/06/11

      @ No1 Rosie. No need to sympathize with me, the person I cared for is dead now. Our Federal Government is about to establish a national insurance scheme, but they intend to have a cut off age of sixty five. If you are over that age I understand and disabled you will be looking elsewhere for government support.  I do not expect Tony and Julia to take time off. I would prefer to see them try juggling their work and providing care for a while. Which is what can and often dose happen to people and families with out warning. God help them if they have no insurance and are mortgaged to the hilt !  We are supposed to have equality in Australia. We have disability access legislation in place since 2002. We have disability support services but the way they are accessed needs change and better oversight. When someone on disability support needs a new wheelchair we see that person may wait two years. This country is not the lucky by chance Rosie it is this way because we work and pay taxes to provide these services which Sue O’Reilly is pointing out fall a long way short of the ideal.  And like her I feel our elected representatives should pursue a broader understanding perhaps start reading their own emails from constituents.  Edward James

    • Felicity says:

      09:14am | 29/06/11

      Rosie, why are you comparing a third world island to a first wold country, we as Australian’s expect better of our government.I see you left your home to come to this first world country, could it be you wanted a better life as well

    • Cathy says:

      09:30am | 29/06/11

      Hi Rosie, I am assuming you left your underdeveloped country for a reason? So then why do you think Australia with its wealth should follow the example of an underdeveloped nation? Funny kind of argument to leave it to the family for the life of the person with disability in a nation where it takes two incomes to live an ordinary life that is on par with that of its fellow citizens.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      10:45am | 29/06/11

      Sorry when I spoke of Fiji I meant those that can’t afford to even put their loved ones in any kind of home to be cared for.

      Dennis, I think you are talking about those that can afford to live in a home and be taken care of by others. Yes you are correct, these people are sometimes neglected by their families once in there.

      Edward James - I didn’t mean to reply to your post, it was meant for the author. However, we here in Australia are by far luckier than countries like Fiji where there is no social welfare, not even free education so the children are given a chance to be educated, preparing them for jobs later on in their lives. What these countries have going for them is the family unit.

      Felicity - sorry to disappoint you but I never intended to leave Fiji seeking for a better life anywhere else. I was one of the fortunate ones that could afford to fly in and out of Fiji, utilizing the best of both worlds. I could afford to pay insurance and fly into Australia for medical treatment etc. I fell in love and married an Australian and because I am old fashion I knew that if I married him I had to come and live in Australia. I am so lucky, many years later I can still afford to have the best of both worlds. Although the last 5 years I haven’t traveled to Fiji because of the military regime since the coup of 2006. Once the country has democratic elections I will be back spending weeks on the island of Ovalau, my birth place.

      My husband and I hope to go back in our old age and pay for a full time nurse to take care of us if we can’t take care of ourselves. We are not relying on the Australian Govt or our children and are confident we will be happier doing it this way rather than be cared for in an old aged home. We also feel it is more dignified.

      I hope you all understand now where I was coming from when I made my comments. Australia is a lucky country because you have a choice of how you can take care of our own well being as well at the same time getting Govt help.

    • Margaret Gray says:

      07:33am | 29/06/11

      Is the author a member of GetUp?

      I don’t need to be in a wheelchair to know those that are face considerably more challenges than do I.

      I fail to see however that throwing money at the problem will remedy the situation or take away the pain.

      There are simply not enough health professionals available to meet the care demands of all the disabled.

      You can;t train people that don;t exist…the only choice is to import people through migration schemes.

      Is this what you are advocating?

    • Sarah Dixon says:

      08:37pm | 29/06/11

      Margaret, I think you missed the point as it is entirely irrelevant whether the author is a member of GetUp.

      Throwing money at ‘the problem’ as you refer to the lives of people living with sever disability is not the solution that the author advocates - what she asks for is for politicians to take time to understand the plight of people who live with severe disabilities, and their families and carers.  And, of course money does not fix these situations nor take away the pain but if your child is severely disable and you are worried about their care when you are elderly, or pass away, then yes, money is pretty damn important.

    • Madeleine Sobb says:

      08:27pm | 04/07/11

      In addition to what Sarah said, its not necessarily about the health care we get (although this is important), it is about getting the care we need to do basic things like showering, eating, dressing, going to the toilet etc. We also need the government to step up and understand that we can’t continue to be viewed as charity cases that people will give to when we need aids and mobility equipment. Once our basic needs are met and we can stop spending money on ridiculously expensive aids, equipment and care, we can then start to live life to the best of our ability.

    • Dennis says:

      08:17am | 29/06/11

      It’s sad if the only way to get Tony or Julia’s attention is by paying for it. Politicians only care about themselves. Margaret Gray I say the same thing when MP’s ask for a pay rise.

    • The Galah from Hervey Bay says:

      09:15am | 29/06/11

      Dennis…...The best way to get a message through to either leader is to contact a Branch secretary of either major party and state your case . You will find that the Branch will give you satisfaction , if only by arranging a contact.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      09:29am | 29/06/11

      It is so easy to blame the politicians these days for some of the unfortunates of life and the responsibilities that comes with it. How about we take that on that responsibility because we care!

    • Cathy says:

      08:21am | 29/06/11

      You do not need health professionals to care for most people with disabilities Margaret. Health professionals are for sick people. We DO care for our sick, we just ignore our disabled. Services will enable people and that can only be a good thing!

    • Margaret Gray says:

      09:32am | 29/06/11

      “...You do not need health professionals to care for most people with disabilities Margaret….”

      You need people.  We have a shortage of people in this country to do what you are asking.

      Explain to me where they are going to come from?

      Will they be physically capable of caring for a disabled person.

      Who assumes responsibility or liability for such carers…if any can be found?

      This is an issue of first principles not funding.

    • Dave says:

      08:49am | 29/06/11

      Unfortunately 95% of this country’s Federal and State politicians do not see votes in causes for the disabled. Just ask the current SA Labor government!!!! They can build a new football stadium but other services will suffer from a lack of funds

    • stephen says:

      08:58am | 29/06/11

      Wheelchair ?
      Lucky you can ride everywhere mate and pedestrians give way ; I gotta walk everywhere and not get privileges like people wanting to offer me their dog, kids their ice-cream and half-price at the drive-in.
      You needed a wheelchair, for whatever reason ; your compensation are your wheels.
      Stop whinging.

    • patsy says:

      10:57am | 29/06/11

      I, like you, could walk everywhere and due to an accident, have been in a wheelchair for seven months and have just progressed to a walker. I honestly don’t know how people who have permanent or degenerative conditions cope. Even knowing I’l get better, every day is a battle to keep your spirits up.
      I suggest you try this empathy test. Live as though you can’t walk. How are you going to shop to cook and feed yourself, then washup, do the housework, bathe and dress, put the bins out, do the laundry, go to the letterbox, get to the phone or door in time, and I hope you don’t have to get to the toilet in a hurry. I live alone and have always been independant. Imagine having to ask for others to do things for you. t’s not nice, so I am the master of online shopping now.
      I don’t get any priveleges either. I do get people not holding the door open for me though and can’t get into places that have stairs only.

    • Sharon says:

      06:48pm | 29/06/11

      “Lucky you can ride everywhere” , “your compensation is your wheels”,

      Are you serious?

      My son is living with a degenrative disorder called Duchenes Muscular Dystrophy, his body doesn’t produce a chemical called Dystrophyn, this chemical is used by the body for muscle growth, strengthening and repair. This condition affects every muscle in his body.

      He started life the same way most other little boys start life, he was crawling at 8mths and started walking at about 13mths but this is where ‘normal’ physical development stopped.

      At age 4, while most of his kinda friends where running around the playground he could only move at a fast gait he was never able to ride a trycicle let alone a bike. Grade 1, walking to the back of the oval for P.E. was exhausting for him Grade 2 he was unable to get up from the class mat without assistance. Grade 3, he no longer had the strength to climb the half dozen steps to get into his classroom. Grade 4, he was no longer able walk without the aid of a walking frame. Grade 5, even walking with the frame was becoming too hard and he was spending 50% of his life being pushed around in a manual wheelchair because he didn’t have the strength in his arms to manuvour it himself. Grade 6, his ability to even stand was gone.
      At the age of 13 he is permanantly confined to a wheelchair he cannot get on or off the toilet without help. While his body is going through puberty, he cannot get himself in or out of the shower without help and although he still has privacy in the shower because he can still wash himself he cannot dry himself or get dressed without assistance, as I am a single parent, these things need to be done by his mother. By the time he is 18 he will no longer be able to do even this.           

      Because he is in a wheelchair it is too dificult for him to go to his friends houses to play the xbox let alone kick a footy around. Thankfully his friends and their parents understand this and they come here.

      In his early 20’s his heart, lungs and digestive system will be unable to function on their own. If he is ‘lucky’ he may survive until his late 20’s.

      He will never drive a car, he will never enter the workforce, he will probably never make love to a woman without paying for it.

      Don’t mistake what I have written for whinging, it is just the facts of the situation but his story is not a lonely one nor is it the worst

      Coincidently the other day one of my sons friends made the comment that he was lucky because he got to ride around the school in a wheelchair all day, although this was said and received in jest, through my sons laughter his response was “I’ll trade with you for just one day”

      My son is lucky, he lives in a time and country where (apart form a few) people are understanding, empathetic and compassionate, some people can afford little kindnessess to those that are less fortunate than themselves, there are organizations out there that help those in hard situationsand technology has advanced enough to give us a few luxuries (cars,dishwashers, airconditioners and electric wheelchairs to name a few), but I fail to see how being in a wheelchair is in any way lucky

      No one has ever offered my son their dog, no kid has ever offered him their icecream, and even if they did he would thank them politely but refuse, as for the drive-in it would be totally impractical, yes he does get a concession at the cinemas along with every other child, student and senior but $12 as appossed to $15 for an adult is hardly half price is it.

      As for pedestrians giving way the next time you see someone in a wheelchair in a busy shopping centre or trying to get of a crowded train take 5 minutes to stand back and watch how many people actually give way.

      The next time you think someone is lucky for their wheelchair think of a 13 year old boy crying in his mums arms after interschool sports because he wished he could have been playing footy with his schoolmates instead of sitting on the sidelines cheering them on.

    • stephen says:

      07:44pm | 29/06/11

      Westeners like us visualize just about everything : our History, beauty, success, girlfriends and problems, and a wheelchair-bound person is indeed at a disadvantage in all physical, (seeing ?) aspects of life.
      However, everybody has their problems, (we tend to make most up only to want the ‘battle’, though I don’t suggest this is your difficulty) and as much as i would like to empathize, I, unfortunately, cannot empathize with everybody.
      Problems and life’s cons are not always apparent, and physical.
      Physical disabilities are serious and I would not like to suffer them.
      All disabilities are a part of life, and not and addendum, and, unfortunately, it is often the way it turns the ignorant to the empathetic.

    • Unionist says:

      06:54am | 30/06/11

      Stephen is obviously a Liberal you can tell by the crap spurting from him/her

    • shane says:

      05:53pm | 30/06/11

      Stephen, Australians with disabilities and their family carers are not asking for your “empathy” or sympathy - fortunately.
      They are asking for a functional, efficient, properly funded disability care and support system that will enable as many as possible to get out to work and earn the sort of income, plus holiday pay, plus sick leave pay, plus superannuation that millions of other people take totally for granted, plus pay tax!, instead of being left to rot in poverty and isolation, subsisting on a pension and with no hope of any future. Hundreds of thousands of carers are highly educated and have a great deal to contribute to the community - including income tax! - but can’t work because of the lack of supports.
      Anyone with hallf a brain supports sweeping disability reform, because it will enable people with disabilities and their carers to CONTRIBUTE more to the community, as they are desperate to do.
      Plus Stephen, anyone with half a brain also gets that disability just might happen to them or a loved one too. So, with a bit of luck, you might break your neck or get a brain tumour or multiple sclerosis or have a stroke or whatever - and then you won’t have to walk anywhere ever again. Just hope you don’t mind waiting two years for the $18,000-$25,000 it costs for an electric wheelchair though, if you can’t work and therefore can’t afford to pay for one yourself, or you might start whingeing a bit too.
      How much of a brain would you say you had, mate?

    • Dennis says:

      09:04am | 29/06/11

      Dave its not only the Labor Government its also the liberals. The disabled are pushed to the background like in the old days.

    • fairsfair says:

      09:11am | 29/06/11

      Go to the television media. As much as I detest 60 minutes, it gets to the harping demographic.

      There is no point preaching to the converted.

    • Felicity says:

      09:19am | 29/06/11

      Sue
      I heard on Alan Jones yesterday that Tony Abbott had agreed to spend the 1/2 a day with someone with a disability and that he said this last week

    • sue o'reilly says:

      01:59pm | 29/06/11

      Yes, Felicity, you are quite right. Since filing this column I was advised just yesterday that Tony Abbott had indeed agreed to participate after all. This is very welcome news, as it helps to throw into even more stark relief the refusal of any senior government minister to participate.
      I haven’t been personally advised of Tony Abbott’s change of mind, however, just heard via Alan Jones.
      Anyone who thinks Julia Gillard should also now change her mind might like to consider emailing her communications director, Russell Mahoney, on russell.mahoney@aph.gov.au to tell him so.

    • Edward James says:

      05:38am | 30/06/11

      Do not take a backward step Sue. Keep uppermost in your mind all the approaches made by you on behalf of those many people unable to represent themselves, to Ministries on both sides of our Federal government their staff and others! Good Stuff Sue! Edward James

    • Huey says:

      09:38am | 29/06/11

      Disability Insurance Scheme. So simple, so right, so needed. main opponents will be the various departments and so -called public servants who perpetrate the current system. The real care providers (paid and prvate) would be winners
      as much as the disabled under a D.I.S.

    • fairsfair says:

      10:58am | 29/06/11

      QLD Health is a monster. I think it is the biggest waste of tax payer funds on the planet. It is disfunctional, full of wannabe important idiots and they can’t even get their pay system working. The Qld Minister for Health is a total tool. Here in Cairns we have recently had strikes by admin staff because they have had to do too much paid overtime to try and sort the issues out. The payroll staff are probably paid more than nurses FFS. It is a total joke. Anything that guts this wollowing pig would be fantastic.

    • Sony b goode says:

      11:19am | 29/06/11

      Exactly. Why do people expect the government who can’t even run a chook raffle properly should fix all out problems?

      Since when did the government have any entrepreneurial ability to do anything more complex than build a few roads?

      It’s all a myth perpetuated by big government socialists who want to insinuate government tendrils into every aspect of our lives and usurp our responsibilities, obligations and rights.

      Flat rate tax is the only way to curb the evil socialist invasion into every aspect of our lives. A government overloaded with money creates a public with every lobbyist and special interest groups with their hands out, looking for handouts.

    • Felicity says:

      10:58am | 29/06/11

      Rosie
      We do care and we do take on that responsibility every day with love, but one day Rosie we will die, and then who will care? There are women, yes mostly women who care well into their old age with no certainty that there will be a place for their loved one to be cared for when they die.That is why we need an NDIS and that why we fight to change a system that relegates pwd’s to the too hard basket, so that we can die in peace

    • Felicity says:

      11:55am | 29/06/11

      OOH Rosie you are such a hypocrite here you are telling us what a terrible life PWD’s have in Fiji and you are here making money in a first world country and intend to return to Fiji in your old age and pay third world wages for your care. Perhaps we should all consider taking ourselves off to Fiji in our old age where we can live in luxury for very little and have full time care for again very little by Australian standards, oops maybe we could raise the standard of living if we did that and then your carers might want to be paid more, are you sure you will have enough for your dignified retirement

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      03:06pm | 29/06/11

      Felicity - Cut the sarcasm you haven’t a bloody clue. My husband and I would be happier in Fiji because of the number of children we have helped educate for a better future for themselves and their families. We know and they know that without our help they wouldn’t stand a chance in providing for themselves and for those they love and care for. We gave them the education they otherwise wouldn’t have. Education entitled them to good jobs for a wage to take care of their family and themselves.

      If and when the time comes when living in Fiji my husband and I will look forward to many visits from these children. Even our children and grandchildren wouldn’t appreciate as much as what we have done for them because they take it for granted that it is our duty as parents. Unlike the Fiji children they want to give back something in return and to do that will visit us always. We do not have to ask for it, they do it naturally.

      People like yourself have it too good in Australia, you are given welfare and demand more and more from other hard working Australians.

    • Dennis says:

      06:08pm | 29/06/11

      No 1 Rosie and you back to Fiji to take advantage of the poor. You also so know it is so cheap for somone to go to school or live.
      People like yourself have it too good in Australia, you are given welfare and demand more and more from other hard working Fijians.

    • James D says:

      12:28pm | 29/06/11

      Those who have significant disabilities, and their carers, should always have our meaningful support.  However, demands on the public purse are greater than ever, as much because too many are willing to sponge off that public purse rather than work.  The government has flagged action to reduce the numbers receiving disability pensions and to reduce the numbers of unemployed. Their commitment is only half-baked. In fact they should significantly reduce the numbers on disability pensions, initially reclassifying them as unemployed, where they belong, then enforcing the requirement for them to seek work. In that way the truly deserving can receive more.

    • Leah says:

      12:32pm | 29/06/11

      You know, i don’t think this is really fair.

      The whole article is just whinging that neither leader accepted the author’s invitation to sit down with a disabled person for a few hours.

      So what?

      I don’t like Julia Gillard at all, but that is irrelevant here. Neither she nor Abbott has the time to accept every invitation they get from people who think they are campaigning for worthy causes.

      You are not entitled to their time any more than any other Australian is.

      I would have been impressed if one of them had taken up your offer. But that doesn’t make them bad or wrong not to have.

      How do you know they have no personal experience with disabled people? How do you know neither of them had a disabled friend at school, or has a disabled niece/nephew/neighbour? How do you know Abbott’s kids never had a disabled friend come round after school, or never attended the birthday party of a disabled classmate?

      How about you start with your local member. You have more of a right to their time than to Abbott’s or Gillard’s. You are their responsibility. Get them on side and they could be a useful ally in parliament.

    • sue o'reilly says:

      06:26pm | 29/06/11

      Tony Abbott is my local member.

      Plus, re-read my first sentence to see why I felt “entitled” to extend this invitation at this time.

      Plus, Tony Abbott has just accepted.

      Watch this space.

    • Edward James says:

      06:00am | 30/06/11

      Politics is not fair Leah just ask Kevin Rudd Pauline Hanson or Edward James! While it is impractical we get it. We are all entitled to time with our elected representatives it tends to be based on the perceived needs ours and theirs. Fortunately in Australia it is still possible for able bodied constituents to door stop almost any of our elected representatives Federal State and Local!  I have spoken directly to several of my political leaders! It is not a process which I abuse like those people who climbed on top of Premier Iemmas’ Tarago at the Newcastle Loader. I have also watched NSW State politicians walk around my father an aging WW2 veteran who wanted everyone to know he was seeking the support of Labor whom he had supported with his vote for a life time. Doing this was the best he could do from his Hospital bed parked on the footpath outside NSW State Parliament from 7 am to 5 pm. People who are not able need us all including politicians to support them in some way. Edward James
      http://bit.ly/EJ_PNewsAds
      Link to political attack ads

    • Rosina Benson says:

      12:52pm | 29/06/11

      People with disabilities and their carer-families simply want the same choices and opportunities as are expected by other Australians.  You can’t do that unless you are able to earn money, you can’t earn money if you cannot hold down a job, you cannot hold down a job because there are no care-services and support for the person with disabilities for whom you care to enable you to do so, because you can’t hold down a job you cannot benefit from any tax cuts, you cannot put away any superannuation like others who work can and do, you cannot gain independence to “get on with the job”.  “Getting on with the job” in the past meant many people with disabilities did not reach their full potential which meant that they did not get to experience the world and know about the world, nor did they gain the life skills that can be gained through innovative and individually tailored programs, such skills means their care is far less intensive.

      Just like the poor, disability will always be with us, in a heartbeat anyone of us could become the person requiring care and support or become the person providing that care and support to a family member. However as a first world country people with disabilities and their families should not be consigned to a life of grinding poverty simply because our government is not prepared to help. The government of Australia is not only morally required to do so, but required to do so because it has signed several international and binding Conventions whereby it has said it will provide for people with disabilities and their families.

    • Edward James says:

      07:02am | 30/06/11

      Well put Rosina Benson!  You are right the government of Australia has signed binding conventions. We the people must keep reminding all our politicians those conventions are legally binding on all of us! Edward James

    • Christopher Moore says:

      12:59pm | 29/06/11

      In 2003 there were 2.7 million carers in Australia but less than 300 thousand received any Centrelink benefit.  The number of carers today is probably closer to 3 million.  Yet those who DO get ALL the government benefit are generally on call 24x7, have NO public holidays, no annual leave, and no superannuation.  And given that, they are receiving less than$3 an hour.  It is absolutely disgusting.  Julia and Tony SHOULD experience life in the hard lane - rather than in the soft one.  When Kev was deposed, we became entitled to $800k a year for life.  Yet carers don’t have a life and (because there is no opportunity for superannuation) they don’t have a future either.  The whole system is sugar words for votes and no real concern or action for those who selflessly give their lives for other.

    • On Deaf Ears says:

      01:15pm | 29/06/11

      I have been given the run around by Ms Tanya Plibersek re her department Department of Human Services. I sent emails to DHS requesting some information but it took several to get a reply. I was informed that the emails were too big for their system and they were held up. I checked the size of the Email and it was less than a 4x6 photo. I was then told to contact DHS in Queensland and was given the Smart Service Phone Number.( DHS is a Federal Departmentet not a State Department)  When I informed DHS of that all of a sudden a “letter” had been sent to Department of Communities Services by DHS referring me to that Department. When I checked what departments went under the Umbrella of Department of Communities and not receiving a reply from that department, I emailed DHS again requesting Ms Plibersek for a copy of that letter and what Department her Department had referred me to as the departments under the umbrella of Dept of Communities did not refer to me. I am still waiting for a reply. When these Ministers get in and get the cash, they dont give too hoots about the people they are representing and supposed to be helping.

    • Outraged says:

      02:53pm | 29/06/11

      I will tell you what I told the last Angry Cripple.

      You need to get Four Corners to do a hidden-camera exposé or A Current Affair ot Today Tonight…or some mainstream media outlet to do a story.

      As someone else said above, you are preaching to the converted here. Sadly, the Australian public don’t seem to care about anything unless it is splashed on the front page of the Daily Telegraph or was on TV. That will get them outraged and make the politicians do something.

    • caro says:

      05:42pm | 30/06/11

      Many of us have tried A Current Affair, 60 Minutes and Today Tonight ,
      Outraged. They are not interested. Which is why the politicians aren’t interested. Which is why ACA, 60 Minutes and TT aren’t interested.
      And as for “preaching to the converted” - have you read some of the posts??? More like preaching to the severely constipated, mate.

    • Felicity says:

      05:00pm | 29/06/11

      Rosie
      It is great that you help people less fortunate than yourself but again I come back to my original point this is a 1st world country the people of Australia in general have a certain standard of living.
      Do you consider that because you are disabled you deserve to be isolated from society because the services are not there to allow you access, do you think that your carer should be excluded from the workforce because the services are not there to provide the care to allow them to work and provide for themselves?
      Yes our children are educated and we have hospitals to care for our sick, just because there are people worse off in the world than we are it does not mean that we should not strive for a better society that cares for its vulnerable people.
      If you believe that we should be happy with what we have got then you should have little hope for a better Fiji, because you deny basic human nature to always strive to do better.

    • Lesley Laurel says:

      06:01pm | 29/06/11

      Wheelchairs make political leaders into all time legends. Only the best leaders have used a wheelchair.
      Franklin Deleware Roosevelt was one such USA President !!

    • Craig says:

      12:05am | 30/06/11

      I support the NDIS and I have a disability but divisive articles like this make me ‘mad as hell’.  I too would love Get Up to take on the NDIS as a campaign.  Both issues are within a few hundred votes of each other on the Get Up site so it would be far more constructive for people like Sue to work to encourage people to vote for the NDIS as a campaign option by Get Up than to push the simplistic idea that there is a tradeoff between campaigns for human rights for different parts of our community.  Roll on the day when people with and without disabilities can marry who they choose and live with the supports needed to make our lives work!

    • kenny says:

      12:19am | 30/06/11

      Gillard Govt in TROUBLE. Just RELEASED MR Abbott demands the PM and treasurer Wayne Swan resign immediately.. The editors of two major newspapers Garry Linnell ( the Australian ) and Paul Whittaker ( telegraph ) have received an email from a senior official in Australian tax office that proves beyond doubt, PM Gillard and treasurer Wayne Swan requested special tax concessions for a hairdressing franchise in pm Gillards electorate..

    • Edward James says:

      10:57am | 30/06/11

      Kenny how hard would it have been to include a link to support this breathless story?  Or perhaps a copy of the email with the identifying bits redacted ?Edward James

    • Veritas says:

      06:38am | 30/06/11

      About time cripples realised they ARE crippled and the rest of the world does NOT owe them. There are things they CANNOT do and it is NOT my responsibility to change my life to accomodate them. Only in Australia do the whingers excel over the rest

    • Scott-a-diddly says:

      09:07pm | 30/06/11

      And may you enjoy your good health until a higher power decides you should be smote for such ridiculous remarks and YOU end up a CRIPPLE!

      They’re not asking anything of YOU. Unless you’re Julia. Are you, Veritas? You can tell me, I won’t tell anyone.

      Promise.

    • Madeleine Sobb says:

      08:40pm | 04/07/11

      We are not saying YOU personally owe us anything! All we want is a fair go, which is what most Australians get. A fair go starts with people like YOU supporting us to get our needs heard by the people who CAN actually help us to have a fair go.

    • Paul Wilson says:

      09:55am | 30/06/11

      I am no fan of Gillard but maybe those complaining that she doesn’t respond should remember that she has a real job to do, that is be Prime Minister.  Abbott’s job is to suck up to voters…think about it.  And as to Sue O’Reilly’s swipe at Getup, maybe she’d catch more flies with some honey rather than all that vinegar.  I doubt they’d be keen to help her (excellent) cause now…or maybe she never asked, just preferred to swipe….

    • Felicity says:

      10:55am | 30/06/11

      Paul get up asked people to vote on a cause they wanted to promote and promised the cause that got the most votes would be next on their agenda. An ndis far and away got the most votes, that was over a year ago, but it seems to be an inconvenient topic for their Labor cronies.
      Many people who voted have emailed them they choose to ignor us, so much for Getup being the peoples voice

    • Edward James says:

      11:06am | 30/06/11

      Get up will continue to do OK. They have attracted dollar support. Every politician has the same job as Abbott. The problem is those politicians / political parties.  Forget all about that job as soon as they move from opposition benches across the floor onto the government seats. Thing is we the taxpayers pay both the so called power and the opposition, and if one is not their we don’t have governance. So many people start out nice then they default to swiping because too many of our politicians are dead wood. Edward James

    • Julie says:

      05:32pm | 30/06/11

      Are you in regular communication with your local State and Federal MP’s? They will be voting and every vote counts. If you can get them on side, they influence others.
      I support an NDIS so I have ordered by DisabiliTEA kit and inviting the pollies to come and listen to individuals in their electorate with their stories and why they should support an NDIS. Go to their web site and sign up.
      Get it your local papers,and you may get the leadership of the parties out to your area one day.
      Meanwhile, I’ve got a Tea to organise, and my State MP is seeing if the Premier can pop in….never know, in the best of all possible worlds….

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      07:20pm | 30/06/11

      The pity is they won’t ever have to do so. Not because they won’t end up in a wheelchair but because they will have lined their pockets so deeply with our money they won’t feel or suffer in any way whatsoever. They will be more than able to afford the best care, wheelchairs, First Class Travel & Luxury 10-star accommodation for their entire lives - the more so if both Joooolya & Tony end up being, totally undeservedly, Prime Minister. Joooolya has already, even more undeservedly, got her berth, doubtless Tony will follow.
      Neither Gillard nor Abbott, Government Ministers, MP nor Senators give a damn about the disabled. They never have, never will.

    • Ana Sastrias says:

      06:53pm | 06/07/11

      So many lives waisted in Afganistan, so much money put in campaigns, so much focus on the Same sex marriage bill, but not so much of attention into severe illness like Muscular Distrophy, Spine Muscular Atrophy or Inclusion Body Myositis. These diseases are extremelly rare and can be suffered in a long term affecting profoundly the sufferer and also his/her carers and family requiring a lot of resources to maintain quality of life slightly fair enough to continue functioning.

 

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