Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s carbon tax announcement represents one of the most brazen and fundamental pieces of political dishonesty in recent memory. That she chose to make the announcement surrounded by the Greens Senators and independent MPs upon whom her government depends gives us a telling insight into the factors at play.

Cartoon: Bill Leak

If we look at the situation objectively there are only two possible explanations for such an announcement. The first is that Julia Gillard knowingly and deliberately told an enormous lie before the last election in a craven attempt to win over conservative voters.  The second is that Bob Brown and the Greens are in charge and the Prime Minister has been reduced to little more than the public face of a Greens Government.

Judging from their public comments over the past few days, Senator Brown and his deputy Christine Milne both clearly subscribe to the latter view:

Senator Brown: This is a hybrid process for a fixed price to move to a cap-and-trade system which we actually developed from Professor Garnaut’s ideas some 12 months ago.

Senator Milne: It’s happening because we have shared power in Australia… It is because the Greens are in the balance of power working with the other parties.

This is cause for genuine concern. As representatives of a party that frequently struggles to attract even 10 per cent of the vote, Senators Brown and Milne are almost entirely exempt from the sort of scrutiny major parties have to deal with all the time. As such, they routinely get away with policy positions that would see most politicians laughed out of office. 

If you’re Green you can advocate crippling the economy, turning off the lights, legalising drugs, closing down zoos and taxing the dead and not have it dent your credibility because, basically, nobody is really paying much attention.

That’s the great advantage of being Green. You don’t have to be a sensible alternative or even a competent one. As long as you’re not making too much trouble and the electorate believes you are safely on the margins, you’ll find that people are tolerant and willing to extend a fair bit of latitude. For the majority of the time, that arrangement works reasonably well. The far left gets somebody to vote for, and nobody gets hurt.

But, as we are currently witnessing, give the Greens a chance to exert some meaningful influence on government policy and things start to go awry. In addition to a massive increase in the cost of living courtesy of rapidly rising electricity, water, petrol and food prices, Australians now have to contend with the real danger that their mythomaniac Prime Minister has handed over the controls of government to a group of uninhibited economic vandals.

The ultimate insult in all of this is that while a carbon tax will have a huge impact on household budgets, it won’t make the slightest difference to the global climate. Although Australia emits a relatively high amount of carbon dioxide per capita, our overall emissions represent less than 1.5 per cent of the global total. 

Total power generation in Australia is about 50 gigawatts. To put that into perspective, China currently produces well over 650 gigawatts, and within the next decade is predicted to boost that figure with an additional 400-500 gigawatts of purely coal-fired power. In this context, any suggestion that the national interest is best served by making it harder for Australians to pay their bills is so obviously disingenuous as to be offensive.

Almost as insulting is the suggestion that the Gillard Government’s towering duplicity is somehow comparable to John Howard’s introduction of the GST. The difference, for those who care to remember, is that when John Howard changed his position on the GST, he had the decency to take the policy to an election and give voters the opportunity to reject it. Gillard on the other hand, has shown no such integrity.

On the contrary, over the past few days the Prime Minister has had the audacity to suggest that voters who thought “no carbon tax” actually meant no carbon tax, had made of some sort of childish error of judgement. Last Thursday she offered this to the Parliament: “The Australian people have voted for change, they voted for a carbon price.”

The following day, on Sydney radio, it was this: “Pricing carbon is the right thing to do and I said that during the election.” And just this morning on the ABC we heard this: “Before the last election I consistently said we needed to price carbon.”

Apparently, without anyone having realised, we have moved into a new era of political discourse – an age of 21st Century surrealism, in which, when the Prime Minister denies having any intention of doing something, voters are to understand that she has every intention of doing it.

As erstwhile political fringe dwellers, the Australian Greens have generally been afforded a certain degree of benevolent tolerance for hypocrisy, sanctimony and policies in extremis.

The Prime Minister, however, would do well to remember that the same indulgence is unlikely to be extended to her.

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    • TChong says:

      04:56am | 04/03/11

      “PMs announcement…one of the most brazen ...political dihonesty ..recent memory.”
      A funny line from latest LNP comedian, R.Todd.
      Do tell Russell , do you remember Work Choices ?
      How did Abbott, Hockey , Robb, Abetz Howard et al sell that one ,? thats right, they didnt. No mandate at all, and the voters showed just what they thought of it , in the following election of ‘07.
      The short , selective memory of a LNP politician.

    • TimB says:

      07:18am | 04/03/11

      Yep and the voters are going to show Gillard what they think of the Carbon Tax.

      Difference between the two of course is that Howard didn’t go into the 2004 election pledging “There will be no WorkChoices under my government”.

      That’s part of the problem with Labor supporters. They don’t quite grasp how analogies work. They’re supposed to be the same, not have a few random things in common.

    • majority says:

      07:30am | 04/03/11

      Agree chongy. Gillard needs to be removed at the soonest opportunity.

    • ZSRenn says:

      08:34am | 04/03/11

      Ah I see that they have dropped the what about “Howard and GST” stance after the flogging it got and now are using the “What about Howard and Work Choices” stance which as pointed out by Tim B did not go to the polls with John saying “There will never be work choices while I am the leader.” down at Labor HQ

      I really don’t get this two wrongs make a right stance either. My mum told me since I can remember “that two wrongs don’t make a right.”

    • jf says:

      08:34am | 04/03/11

      TChong

      So no longer denying Gillard’s lie or even trying to defend it? Not even trying to equate her bald faced lie with Howard taking the GST to a Federal election.

      Just, “well you guys did it to”.

      But did they? Give me one quote from anyone in the Coalition (and by that I mean that side of politics who admits to being a coalition) who, before the election said we will not be introducing legislation of that sort.

      And, whilst you are at it, what specifically was so bad about Work Choices? I have to confess that it is not my field, however, no-one, not my Union Delegate mate, not my rusted on Labour supporter brother in law, not my friend who is a barrister specialising in industrial relations, not one has been able to tell me specifically why it was so bad.

    • Reg says:

      08:44am | 04/03/11

      @TimB; “They don’t quite grasp how analogies work.”

      Falling about laughing after the Gaddifi analogy.  Holy s*** Timmy, your motivation for that comment is obviously ringing in your ears. Perhaps we could describe the government’s decision as “brave and decisive” for offering the opposition an obvious distraction to burn their small brains out. As has happened with you.

    • Dingo says:

      08:45am | 04/03/11

      Well said TimB.

    • Incentive?? says:

      08:49am | 04/03/11

      Yes, who wants to have the choice to negotiate their value to an employer?
      Yep, I’m gonna quit my job, stick my hand out and go fishing…

    • Ryan says:

      08:55am | 04/03/11

      @TimB: I believe that would be because of that education revolution thing we aren’t going to have.

    • dovif says:

      09:32am | 04/03/11

      TChong

      You are right, they were both dishonest, Gillard more so, because she said she will not

      So what will happen to Gillard will be worse than what happened to Howard. Because she broke the trust of the Australian people

    • TimB says:

      10:14am | 04/03/11

      Who’s Gadaffi analogy would that be? Mine? No? I didn’t think so.

      Perhaps it’s probably not best to try and attack me on the basis of what *someone else* said. Especially when you clearly didn’t understand the point of what was said in the first place.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      01:50pm | 04/03/11

      Typical response from the left Chong, try to distract people with the past. Pssst, we’re here, now, with an incompetent, condescending liar of a PM, lets concentrate on the present and get rid of the bitch. Sorry, that was rude… Pretty please with sugar on top, lets get rid of the bitch smile

    • jusme says:

      11:13pm | 04/03/11

      lets not forget the greens backed the stimulus packages that saw us through the GFC.
      green ideas like insulation, pv’s, solar hot water are all making life easier for those wise enough to take up the offer.
      having to spend less on power is a real outcome.
      if the greens werent’ finally in a position to push their ideas through, none of the above would have happened.
      people have seen this, added to their singlular desire for less pollution, even at the expense of profits, will see their popularity grow.

    • Against the Man says:

      06:01am | 04/03/11

      Look at Gillard in her personal and political life. Australia isn’t getting a leader that will fight for the country, they are getting a leader that will do the best for herself. Bob Brown has TOTAL control of her. She is shameful, disgraceful and pathetic beyond all reason. The Greens are in power, thanks to Gillard selling us out. Think about how Gilltard is destroying the future of Australai!

    • Mahhrat says:

      07:25am | 04/03/11

      Yup, and if that buffoon Turnbull is using to lead the LNP until he pulls the best trick out of the Howard playbook and returns just in time to “save” them had had the house to negotiate properly, he’d now be introducing the Carbon Tax instead of Julia and you’d be squirming rather than gloating.  Stop blaming politicians for playing politics; we’d have had the Carbon Tax either way, because we voted the only way we could - with a balance of power - because NEITHER major party is any good right now.

    • iansand says:

      06:13am | 04/03/11

      Senator Trood - The reason you blokes are not the government is because your Beloved Leader refused to even try to negotiate or compromise.  That may reflect an underlying integrity, or an inability to comprehend the concepts.

      One thing I have not heard from the Coalition is any attempt to discuss the merits of the proposed carbon price.  As always, politics is more important than policy.  It is why politicians in this country are treated with resigned contempt.  The political system is inhabited by people whose emotional and intellectual skills stalled in Grade 2.

    • JaneS says:

      07:07am | 04/03/11

      So it’s Abbott’s fault Julia lied.  Can I blame him for my hot water breaking down too, because I really need a patsy for that.

    • TimB says:

      07:32am | 04/03/11

      What merits would those be?

      Artificially increased power costs?

      Increased costs for all other products?

      The wealth redistribution masquerading as compensation?

      The damage it will do to one of our primary industries?

      The zero point zero something reduction this will have on world CO2 levels?

      Sorry iansand, I have trouble seeing these benefits you speak of.

    • Adam Diver says:

      07:53am | 04/03/11

      @ Iansand - The forum is all yours, please illuminate us with the merits of the proposed carbon price, Christine Milne forgot to do so.

      I am looking forward to your response.

    • iansand says:

      07:57am | 04/03/11

      Whether Ms Gillard lied or not is irrelevant to the merits of a price on carbon.  The lie is politics.  The merits are policy.

    • Tubesteak says:

      08:04am | 04/03/11

      Correct. It’s amazing how many people don’t understand how a representative democracy works. It’s also amazing how many people don’t understand how a coalition government works - even within the LNP coalition.

      You form government by finding enough representatives that want to agree with you. If all those representatives come from the same party, then fine. But in this situation they don’t. Therefore, the interests of each party must be considered and dealt with.

      What’s really funny is the fact that the LNP couldn’t even convince 3 former members to side with them.

    • ZSRenn@hotmail.com says:

      08:27am | 04/03/11

      No ian the reason the LNP is not in power is because TA refused to sell his sould to get it!

    • Shelly says:

      09:29am | 04/03/11

      So iansand, you trust that the politicians who lie when they tell you the policy is sound? Why?

    • dovif says:

      09:43am | 04/03/11

      Iansand

      You are correct. The reason the Liberals are not in government is they have integrity. You can easily see what happened to Gillard

      Gillard: we would do anything to stay in government
      Brown: Well! I want a Carbon tax announced first sitting week of parliament
      Gillard: While I did say no at the election, if this is the only way for me to stay in Government, I will agree to lie.
      Brown: and I wants euthanasia and gay marriage
      Gillard: While this is against my policy, I will do everything to stay in government

    • iansand says:

      09:55am | 04/03/11

      Which all provesd my point.  Politics in this country, and discussion of politics on this site, operates on the basis of petty point scoring.  It is very sad.

      @TimB - See you over in Ms Milne’s piece (but if you start lambasting Labor/Greens without any sensible discussion I will stop reading, as this is my policy with you).

      @ZSRenn - I thought that was one of the options I suggested.

      @Shelly - Guess what.  They all lie.  I tend to ignore what they say about policy and look at the policy.

    • ZSRenn says:

      11:27am | 04/03/11

      I will discuss the meits with you ian

      1. The tax will save 0.015% of global carbon emissions

      2. The tax will be the first step to create 3000 jobs in alternate energy industry by 2030.

      3. The tax sets us up as a leader in the global attempt to reduce carbon giving us a high moral stand when dealing on the subject with countries such as Qatar.

    • Shelly says:

      11:28am | 04/03/11

      @iansand - policy? I reckon it’s a soundbite at the moment. Maybe talking points at a stretch. Policy? Nah. If you want to say you support the concept of a carbon dioxide tax as outlined by the PM then that may have a degree of accurancy. Calling it a policy at this stage is merely hyperbole.

      Or wishful thinking.

    • St. Michael says:

      12:08pm | 04/03/11

      @ ZSRenn, who quoted:

      “No ian the reason the LNP is not in power is because TA refused to sell his sould to get it!”

      Not for lack of trying, though.  He was willing to throw double what a Tasmanian hospital cost at one of the Independents in order to secure his vote, and Tony Windsor’s been pretty adamant that TA was willing to do anything to get into government.  I don’t trust him any more than I can throw him.

      Politicians of all stripes will sell their soul and reputation to get into power.  They do it because they like the power, not the service to the electorate.  Christine Milne’s gloating that the Greens share government in Australia is merely the most recent example of this.

    • The Badger says:

      12:26pm | 04/03/11

      Under a Liberal government in West Australia.
      The amount that WA householders pay each year for water, gas and electricity will have jumped by more than $1000 by the end of the Colin Barnett’s first term in office, according to new figures which reveal the full impact of rising utility bills.
      The conservatives can suck you dry in so many different ways.
      http://tinyurl.com/4cy8u3q

    • LC says:

      12:40pm | 04/03/11

      “The tax will save 0.015% of global carbon emissions”

      Whoop-dee-doo. I’m not going to argue about the merits of the research into AGW/ACC now, but say if it was happening, if China and India (two of the most heavily populated countries, both going through industrial revelutions and realeasing a lot of carbon in the process) do nothing, is any real difference made? How long is the the catastrophic consequences of AGW/ACC delayed?

      Is it already too late to make any difference?

      Why are so few people asking these basic questions?

    • MarK says:

      04:06pm | 04/03/11

      HAHAHAHAHAHA

      I see ian is not reading stuff which he doesn’t agree with again.

      Must be good to go through life so simply.

      Pray tell if you don’t read anything but the material you agree with how do you get perspective?

      Or do you “just know it is right”?

      Must be good being you.

      PS Whenever Julia actual gives us some details of the policy let me and the good senator know then we can actually talk about “the policy” which at the moment amounts to a thought bubble form her and remarkably like what the Greens said NO to last time. I think she migh be in for a shock when they get to the nitty gritty.

      Don’t you?

      Oh that’s right. You don’t read stuff you don’t like. How positively convenient.

    • iansand says:

      04:42pm | 04/03/11

      Did MarK say something?  I couldn’t hear it over that odd braying noise.

    • TimB says:

      05:07pm | 04/03/11

      iansand you shouldnt make noises when other people are talking then.

      It’s rude and no wonder you can’t hear them.

    • AJL says:

      05:16pm | 04/03/11

      @ Badger
      Do some research on electricity pricing in WA before you troll your left wing garbage. Off the top of my head, correct me if I am wrong, electricity tariffs did not increase from 1994 until 09/10. Neither side of the politcal game wants to increase electricity prices as it hurts many in the electorate and ultimately at the ballot box. Verve (the generator) was losing money hand over fist but Colin had the guts to up the prices. Perhaps if we had cost-reflective electricity pricing then you’d know what an increase in a power bill really looks like.

    • The Badger says:

      06:01pm | 04/03/11

      AJL
      Read the link before you lift the top of your head off next time.
      It might save you some pain and embarrassment.

    • Brian Taylor says:

      06:49am | 04/03/11

      just wish queen bee julia would call an election then this madness would be stopped dead in its tracks, it’d be a total wipe out for labor and she knows it

    • TimB says:

      07:33am | 04/03/11

      That’s why she lied in the first place. Oddly some people still can’t understand that.

      They will though.

    • Against the Man says:

      08:38am | 04/03/11

      The longer she waits the worst the results will be for Labor, the faceless men know it. Bill Shorten is touching up his take over speech and his mother-in-law is shopping around for a nice dress for when she swears him in. Poll numbers are worse than when Rudd was real PM, Gillard is over.

    • Warren says:

      08:55am | 04/03/11

      It will be a couple of years away I’m afraid. The Liberals are eye popping mad be cause they came soooooooo close to winning the last election then bungled it with the independents, and a cheap bribery attempt to get Andrew Wilkie’s vote. For a while they hoped the ALP Green coalition would collapse in a heap but it looks increasingly likely they will go the distance. That annoys the Liberals even more, they can’t quite believe it. Two years is a long time. Long enough for the APL to get things back on track, perhaps. But with Tony Abbott leading the Liberal/nationals you can be sure there is a good chance he will steal failure from the jaws of victory. He just can’t help himself. Voters may be happy to vote for the Libs, but Abbott is not popular with the swinging voters who are the ones that really count. The anti-muslim angles by his collegues don’t help. It might buy the One Nation voters but no one else is impressed by it. Remember the fake Lindsay pamphlet scandal in 2007?

    • The Badger says:

      12:31pm | 04/03/11

      Warren
      I find it very strange that Abbott is going after the one nation vote. He and little conservative rabble have always had that. 
      He stands to gain nothing and lose the swinging voter.
      The man has clearly lost his marbles.

    • MarK says:

      08:23pm | 04/03/11

      I love this going after the ine nation vote meme.

      First Abbott is a prick because he destroyed one nation and put Pauline in gaol now he is their de facto leader.

      Wish the lies would get straightened out.

      Too funny for words.

    • TimB says:

      06:49am | 04/03/11

      Don’t worry Russell. With any luck, after this latest debacle, the Greens will soon go back to being a political irrelevancy.

      Now the voters have the opportunity to see first-hand what Green policies really mean, they’ll be punished at the ballot box as deserved.

      The next election can’t come fast enough.

    • ZSRenn says:

      08:37am | 04/03/11

      I worry about July Tim when they hold the balance of power in the senate.

      How the hell did we get ourselves in this position?

    • Fed says:

      08:39am | 04/03/11

      Tim,
      We have to wait until after the second election unless there is a double dissolution. I can’t see Gillard going to the polls until after this has been enacted and I can’t see her going for a double dissolution if the senate rejects it. Bob Brown won’t let her!

    • Reg says:

      09:19am | 04/03/11

      Good on you Timmy. Your consistent display of narrow self-interest never let’s you down. Bet you were one of those who would never have given the money back to the Commonwealth Bank either.

      Just like some many self-interested businesses who resent having to retrain to fit the requirements of a greener world. Rant as you will about how China will continue burning fossil fuel but you’re outlook is not really international, it’s what is best for you individually. Your narrow self-interest is so restricting Timmy you should be ashamed to resort to the suffering of the Libyans to support you puny and defective analogies.

      Grow up mate.

    • TimB says:

      10:15am | 04/03/11

      Perse tried to bring up the point that even if the Coalition wins the next election off the back of a tax repeal platform, the Greens will still have control of the senate and block it. Apparently by the time the Coalition would be in a position to repeal it, it would be too late.

      This pre-supposes 2 things-

      Firstly, that the Coalition’s senate intake in 2014 won’t be enough negate the Greens who are still there until 2017.

      I had a quick look at the senate numbers and I think this is likley, I think I worked out that Coalition would need something like 65% of the Senate vote to bring enough numbers to bear. Short of a staggering landslide, it probably won’t happen.

      But the second thing Perse fails to take into account is the DD option.

      If Tony moves on getting rid of the tax right away & promises to pull the DD trigger in the face of Green obstinancy…they’ll have no choice but to comply and let it through. If they don’t, they risk getting wiped out at a subsequent DD election.
      It’s up to Tony to show that he is prepared to follow through on the threat and not just bluffing like Gillard and Rudd did over the ETS.

      @ Reg, I never took any money from the Commonwealth Bank in the first place.

      And yes I am a customer.

      And your constant attempts to link me to the Gaddaffi thing are hilarious to say the least.
      First off you clearly don’t understand the meaning of the comparison. Secondly, I’m not the one who said it. So you’re going to judge me on the basis of what a Liberal pollie has done?
      You’re a Labor supporter. How about I judge you on the basis of Milton Orkopoulos behaviour? Seem fair?

      Keep up the smearing attempts Reg. Maybe someone is paying attention.

    • The Badger says:

      12:38pm | 04/03/11

      Timmie says
      “The next election can’t come fast enough. “
      I know how you feel timmie. Every day that passes swinging voters are deserting the party of NO. Every time an opposition spokesman open his mouth and inserts foot, more are lost to the cause. Every day, diminishes what little chance you have of grasping power again.

      It is no wonder you talk so much about going to the polls and DD’s
      By the time the next election rolls around Labor will have more than enough support to govern in their own right.

    • LC says:

      12:45pm | 04/03/11

      @ Fed,

      If the Libs don’t agree, but the Greens do, the bill gets passed in the senate. A balance of power means that they have sufficient numbers to decide wether or not legislation passes in the event that Labor and Liberal parties disagree.

      Chances it won’t pass the senate = 0.0something%

    • TimB says:

      01:43pm | 04/03/11

      lol Badger you really have cracked haven’t you?

      Tell me, which polls support your little vacation from reality?

      I suppose you think Keneally stands a good chance of winning the NSW election too.

      “Go Team Labor! Rah Rah Rah!”, Etc.

      Hilarity.

    • The Badger says:

      02:55pm | 04/03/11

      timmie
      I don’t live in NSW.

      The truth is the longer this government continues to govern, the more swinging voters will swing to the left.

      Labor bad, Conservative good - Rah Rah Rah!”, Etc.
      Hilarious.

    • TimB says:

      05:36pm | 04/03/11

      I know you don’t live in NSW, but I didn’t think that stopped you from having an opinion on who would win the election.

      Actually I thought you lived in the state of Western Australia, but now I see it’s merely the state of delusion . Especially if you really think the polls are swinging Julia’s way.

      Can’t wait for the next Newspoll, you’re in for a terrific shock.

    • The Badger says:

      06:02pm | 04/03/11

      TimB
      You can’t shock me, I’m too well grounded

    • Eskimo says:

      07:37am | 04/03/11

      Bill Leak got it wrong. It’s not the Prime Minister’s nose that grows her she tells a lie. If she keeps it up we’ll need a Bunnings full of ax handles to measure her backside.

    • pete says:

      08:24am | 04/03/11

      The only difference between that lot and your lot is that they havent tried to sugar coat bullshit with the tags of “core and non core” or “it’s not gospel unless I write it down” and the only diiference between Tony and Julia is that she doesnt walk into a confessional to salve her conscience, so that it can be done all over again with a supposed “clean slate” next week.  Lying and avoiding answers 101 is a prerequisite for a political future, all voters know that.

    • Dingo says:

      09:50am | 04/03/11

      It always amuses me that Labor supporters trot out the core and non-core promises line about Howard.

      It was the result of Paul Keating’s $9 billion lie that it became necessary for the incoming Government to prioritise their election promises. Remember?? There was $9 billion missing from the budget. That was why the Howard Government introduced the Charter of Budget Honesty for future elections - and first imposed it on themselves.

      But core and non-core is actually not such a difficult concept. A core promise is a vote changer, and non-core promise is probably a good idea and not very contentious.

      For example “there will be no carbon tax under the Government I lead” is a core promise. The issue was significant to people in deciding who to vote for. “We will launch stage two of the myschools website” is a non-core promise. Some people are really interested but it’s not a vote changer. 

      All of Howard’s “non-core” promises were eventually honoured anyway.

    • St. Michael says:

      03:40pm | 04/03/11

      @ Dingo: the only thing I find amusing is watching you twist yourself into literary and moral knots in order to prop up John Howard’s reputation.

      The Oxford Dictionary definition of “promise” is:

      “noun

        *    1 a declaration or assurance that one will do something or that a particular thing will happen:
          [in singular] an indication that something is likely to occur:
          2 [mass noun] the quality of potential excellence:he showed great promise even as a junior officer”.

      “Core promise” and “non-core promise” actually is a really difficult concept to understand unless you’re a bureaucrat or a manager accustomed to violating the language to weasel out of saying anything definitive.  Although if you understand the word “oxymoron” it makes it easier.  “Core” and “non-core” suggests there are degrees to which one can make a promise.  Neither is the case.  It’s like being a little bit pregnant.

      Gillard also hasn’t classed her promises as “core” and “non-core”.  Only Howard did that, so it’s intellectually dishonest to put Howard’s spin on Gillard’s lie.

      And no, Howard didn’t honour all of his promises.  Whether they were core or non-core.  If you don’t want to be held to your words, don’t make promises.

    • Dingo says:

      07:28pm | 04/03/11

      It’s obvious you missed the point St. Michael, so let me try and make it a bit simpler for you.

      In 1996, just before the federal election, the then Treasurer, Paul Keating put on the public record that the federal budgets for 1996-97 and 1997-98 would have a deficit of $570 million and a surplus of $2.7 billion respectively. The Howard led opposition assumed he was telling the truth and made their election promises on costings based on these figures.

      On taking office, the Department of Treasury presented the new Government with the actual figures showing a $7.6 billion deficit for 1996-97 and $7.3 billion deficit for 1997-98.

      Faced with such massive debt from this deceit, it was obvious the new Government would have to review all of its spending commitments. So they set about trying to determine which policies actually influenced peoples voting decision. Which ones were “core” to their decision (Oxford Dictionary definition of core:  The basic or most important part) when they were deciding who to vote for.  They then prioritised those policies.

      So my analogy based on the last election is:
      No carbon tax = core (basic or most important) when deciding which way to vote versus myschool website not basic and not most important when deciding who to vote for.

      P.S. Which promises from the 1996 election were not delivered?

    • Patrick Kelly says:

      08:32am | 04/03/11

      Very elegantly put Senator.
      The PK index of common sense is increasingly starting to favour those from north of the border. With a few notable exceptions.
      As for the Greens. The recent discovery that a warming climate is good for frogs (http://www.thegwpf.org/the-observatory/2556-global-warming-is-good-for-frogs.html) may swing a couple of them over to the common sense side as well.

    • jf says:

      09:10am | 04/03/11

      Trood’s article, to which Christine Milne is responding, is primarily about the fact the Greens lack accountability for their policies and their lack of pragmatism or ability for contextual thought. The secondary theme is Gillard’s lie.

      I note that Milne has declined to respond to either of these charges in her ‘counter-punch’. Presumably because she has no logical rebuttal for either charge.

    • Joel B1 says:

      09:10am | 04/03/11

      Nice, covers the points well.

    • Anna C says:

      09:25am | 04/03/11

      I blame the journalists, they have let the Greens get away with murder.  Why haven’t they been scrutinising their ridiculous policies.  If people really knew what they stood for, they certainly wouldn’t have handed them the balance of power.  This Labor/Greens Government is an absolute trainwreck.  The sooner a new election is called, the better for all of us.

    • stephen says:

      11:21am | 04/03/11

      The Greens have lost all their 5 seats in the recent Irish elctions, and their death-throes can be seen in The Netherlands, Germany, and throughout Europe. They have been completely harmless, too, in the Latin countries.
      The sooner they are sidelined here from a general Election, the better.
      (In Christchurch they make good rubbish-dumpsters.)

    • Anna C says:

      09:25am | 04/03/11

      I blame the journalists, they have let the Greens get away with murder.  Why haven’t they been scrutinising their ridiculous policies.  If people really knew what they stood for, they certainly wouldn’t have handed them the balance of power.  This Labor/Greens Government is an absolute trainwreck.  The sooner a new election is called, the better for all of us.

    • Reg says:

      05:09pm | 04/03/11

      @Fairsfair, to steal a line from your friend MarK, try not to post when you are in an emotional state and you may manage to include something more substantial than what some bloke told you at the drinking fountain.

    • fairsfair says:

      09:27am | 04/03/11

      Why is anyone even listening to Garnaut given his activities in PNG?

    • Richard says:

      10:54am | 04/03/11

      Exactly. Garnaut is an environmental vandal does not have any credibility on the subject at all. He should be prosecuted and imprisoned for his crimes against the environment, not lauded as some sort of guru.

    • The Badger says:

      12:33pm | 04/03/11

      The only people that listen to Garnaut are the ones that have something other than NO to add to the debate.

    • fairsfair says:

      01:15pm | 04/03/11

      well Badge seeing as though you just contributed NOthing to my genuine query that is based on genuine fact does that mean you are not listening to him either?

      I am not only questioning what he is saying, though I am sure he raises some valid points - it is the hypocricy of the man and to think he is the one that is guiding this entire issue really gives me the dirts.

      It would be like Julia Gillard making a stand on chemical levels in red hair die…. and then carrying on as usual.

    • The Badger says:

      03:13pm | 04/03/11

      Well Fairsfair
      Seeing as how you just threw out a disposable comment about nothing, what did you expect? Really?
      All you did was put Garnaut and PNG in a sentence.

      Are you talking about the fact that he worked in the Finance Department in PNG during the period leading up to and after independence in 1975, and has commendably maintained his interest in and commitment to the country since then?
      Are you talking about Lihir mine tailings disposal operating in a manner approved by environmental studies externally reviewed including by the CSIRO?
      Or are you talking about the Garnaut initiated Sustainable Development Program in the OK Tedi area where Lihir spends a substantial amount of the mine’s royalties and life expectancy has shot up?
      Do try to put a few facts together before you throw out a meaningless sentence.

      PS - Personally I really don’t know anything about red dye, so I can’t help you there.

    • fairsfair says:

      03:46pm | 04/03/11

      hahahahaha Badger, that is hilarious. You are welcome to have a chat to the CA guys here in my office (they work between here, POM and are constantly out bush in PNG with the natives). There are also multiple PNG nationals in my office who have a few things to say (he comes up a lot in conversation). You can also have a chat to the external SEIA contractors (yes there is more than one firm) my organisatoin uses to research where and when and how they will begin exploration. He has the crappest of reps about and it is not even worth going into his personal “interests” within the nation. Absolute respect for the man in some of his achievements, but he is a hypocrite of the highest order. 

      Try and put a few facts together eh. Are you avin a laff?

    • The Badger says:

      04:31pm | 04/03/11

      Hilarious fairsfair

      First I noticed you didn’t respond to my comment regarding what nonsense you were referencing.  All you did was put Garnaut and PNG in the same sentence and you expect us to understand what it is you are talking about?
      Now you talk of CA guys (is this a typo did you mean CIA? and what do they have to do with anything?
      Now a few PNG nationals said something, but you never elucidate what it is.
      Then the SEIA contractors get a mention, god knows who they are or what relevance they have to whatever your point might have been.

      Seriously fairsfair, do you honestly think anything you just wrote makes sense?
      I suggest you typed your response as quickly as you could to make a dash out of the office and get home to start the long weekend.
      When you get home, I suggest you change, have a cup of tea, read the book of calm - and make sure you get some serious sleep over the weekend. Perhaps a calming bath might help.

    • TimB says:

      05:13pm | 04/03/11

      Wow *Badger* is asking other people to write something that makes sense.

      Awesome.

      Fairsfair, just give him a headpat and a treat and send him on his way.

    • fairsfair says:

      07:39pm | 04/03/11

      Sorry Badger, seeing as though you know so much about the Mining Industry in PNG I assumed you knew basic industry terminology as well. CA Officer - Community Affairs Officer. SEIA - Social Environmental Impact Assessment. These are the trailblazers (so to speak) who get in on the ground before Australian based contractors are allowed to begin works in PNG. SEIA officers must be external to the both agencies, paid for by the mining company and the contract must be developed and reviewed with heavy involvement from the Lands Council (PNG Govt).

      There is no point going in to detail as he is always explained away to be an absolute champion of the cause.

      No long weekend for me, but that bath and a cuppa idea sounds good, I like how you are always watching out for me wink Have a good weekend!

    • Kevin Rennie says:

      09:38am | 04/03/11

      The Coalition promised us a an Emissions Trading Scheme in 2007. They flipped o that promise!

      Yesterday visited Perth’s ‘newest’ dam built in 1994. It’s at 19% and has never reached 60%.  If you’re not worried about climate change then please take a look:

      North Dandalup Dam: You Can’t Make It Rain
      http://water.thinkaboutit.eu/think5/post/north_dandalup_dam_you_cant_make_it_rain

    • jf says:

      10:37am | 04/03/11

      “The Coalition promised us a an Emissions Trading Scheme in 2007.”

      I don’t recall the coalition either taking that promise to an election. However, even if they had, I don’t recall them reneging on that promise having won Government on the basis of that promise.

      I respect Gillard’s right to change her mind on this issue. I really do. However, it is such a big issue and has so much conequence for the lives of so many of us that she should take it to an election. Particularly those people that either voted for her because of her promise or for those that voted for the coalition because of her promise.

      “Yesterday visited Perth’s ‘newest’ dam built in 1994. It’s at 19% and has never reached 60%.  If you’re not worried about climate change then please take a look:”

      I can’t even begin to get your point here. However, I’ll have a punt. Is it your premise that because the dam isn’t full that climate change has caused it to rain less. If so, those of us in Brisbane have more counter-punches than Muhammad Ali. However, is there any evidence that the dam would have been more than 60% full if it had been built 100 years ago? What about 1,000 years ago? Are you telling us that periods of drought are a recent phenomenon? Are you telling us that climate change is a recent phenomenon? What on earth is your point?

    • Goldenfaber says:

      02:11am | 05/03/11

      From the Wikipedia article 1911-1916 Drought in Australia. about 1911: “Southwestern Australia was particularly hard-hit: wheat crops failed completely in many places and led to a revolution in water supply and farming techniques to cope with rainfalls lower than previously known.”!!!!!!!!! No the dam would not have been full one hundred years ago.

    • John says:

      09:41am | 04/03/11

      When all is said and done, we, the long-suffering and oft-frustrated public generally just want to see good policy and progress in areas of need and importance.  The political bickering, accusations and counters serve none of us any good, on or off the floor of parliament.  A lot of wasted energy when we should debate the merits of ideas and policies.  If any Government comes to the realisation that policy A is a good one, and can help us understand that, then we should be willing to support the policy and not worry overly about whether it was promised (or not) at the last election etc.  Best to get the big decisions right (and moreover, do something) rather than debate if a ‘mandate’ exists or who lied or not told the full story some years back blah blah.  As the women’s lobby knows, affirmative action is much more powerful than hot air and white papers.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      10:18am | 04/03/11

      LNP criticizing the Greens over crap policy is like the pot calling the kettle black.

    • jf says:

      10:38am | 04/03/11

      Very erudite Shane.

      How so specifically?

    • fairsfair says:

      10:50am | 04/03/11

      ahem, don’t you mean “rainbow” wink

      That is a fair comment Shane, but seriously some of their policies are whack and ideological foundation is missed by a lot of people (including those who vote for them). They aren’t all beer and skittles and I think you will find that the majority of people are a better fit with either of the two major parties on the whole (meanwhile they are both fairly centre and are performing as shitly as each other lately).

      I dubious on the whole subject of AGW, but I fully support a reduction in emissions because that will also lead to a reduction in our dependance on fossil fuels (quite funny coming from someone who now works for an oil company) and improve local environment. Also, it can’t hurt.

      I don’t believe that taxing carbon emissions is the way to go about doing this but I am struggling to find a platform to read about and discuss alternatives. All of our pollies are failing us (and our journos) by focussing on the lie, the people and the undies they are wearing over actually holding people to account and talking about the issue at hand. How is this likely to affect us? This article begins to touch on that.

    • ZSRenn says:

      11:19am | 04/03/11

      Be careful not to spill the latte on your key board Shane from melbourne

    • jf says:

      11:39am | 04/03/11

      “Also, it can’t hurt.”

      But it can fairfair and that is the point.

      “quite funny coming from someone who now works for an oil company”

      Some would say hypocritical.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      01:16pm | 04/03/11

      All parties haven’t addressed the population problem and the international framework. For unilateral action, carbon tariffs are needed. For multilateral action, the multilateral agreement needs to be in place before the carbon tax is implemented. All I see is wealth transfer to the rich by the LNP via corporate subsidies and a wealth transfer to the less well off by the ALP via a wealth redistribution. Classic case of parties pandering to their core constituents.

    • fairsfair says:

      01:29pm | 04/03/11

      jf, I am closer to your way of thinking on this matter (after reading your other comments).  [It can’t hurt] to reduce emissions to better our lifestyle and immediate environment - like people that live beside power stations and stored petroleum products. If there wasn’t such a huge demand, would so much infrastructure be required (this is just one example but I guess I just mean more environmentally friendly within reason). Gradually shifting away from these types of products can only be a positive thing we have known about the effects of pollution etc etc for yonks. I don’t hold a definite belief that it is causing or greatly contributing to “climate change”, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t recognise that we don’t really treat the planet as well as we should.  I am also a firm believer in you can’t run before you walk. This has to be a step by step process to gain consensus. That is where the spruikers fail, it is all or nothing and if you don’t want all you are a selfish, uneducated pig.

      Hypocritical? I don’t feel it at all. I work for an organisation that is investing heavily in shifting focus to LNG product and we do major R&D into bettering our practices. If you are a vegetarian and you work at a restaurant that has beef on the menu do you deserve to be burnt at the stake?

    • jf says:

      04:32pm | 04/03/11

      “If you are a vegetarian and you work at a restaurant that has beef on the menu do you deserve to be burnt at the stake?”

      That depends on your reasons for being a vegetarian. If you are a vegetarian because you believe that eating meat is cruel, then yes. If you are a vegetarian because you don’t like mean, then no. Weird, but no.

      But I see your point.

    • fairsfair says:

      05:18pm | 04/03/11

      “Motivation” is my issue with the entire AGW debate jf. The reason for people being so hysterical about it are not clear to me. Just like some people are guilted into being vegetatians and do so on the back of minority farming practices (that no meat eater would agree with and no Australian standard would uphold) and misinformation broadcast by hysterical vegans who think eating the eggs layed by your well loved backyard hen called Jemima is horrendously barbaric.

      I think there are few people in this world that think our attitudes toward the environment are ok. Most people recognise that our lifestyles need to change - I am one of those people - but it has to be a staggered process and encouraged from the ground up. The tax whack is not the go.

      Besides, Australia is but a drop in the ocean in the emisssion stakes (our per capita may be high, but there are just not enough of us to count) and it is for that very same reason that we are absolutely stupid if we think that our big step is going to have any affect on the world’s attitude.

      I would however be hypocritical if I was say Garnaut or even the fantastic Al Gore. Their mantra is comparable to me being vegetarian because I think cows are cute and then munging into a 300g rib eye with mushroom sauce. The sauce covers it up and anyway, if I paid $5 extra for my steak to offset my severe case of “canivore guilt”, I can skip on my merry way.

    • Squeeze the Middle says:

      01:37pm | 04/03/11

      Juliar’s lie that we had to have. Then again, how’s her conduct any worse than ‘non core’ promises.

      At least she has the decency to set the policy up to fail.

    • The Badger says:

      01:38pm | 04/03/11

      I love the Leak cartoon at the top of this article.
      It reminds me of the cartoons after the GST election.
      Meg Lees pulling the Howard strings and making him dance to her tune.

    • jf says:

      04:05pm | 04/03/11

      Do you mean after Howard won the election on a very clear GST platform?

      Do you mean the election, following which, Howard negotiated with the Democrats to ensure that he got through a GST that was pledged before the election?

      Do you mean that same Meg Lees, leader of the Democrats?

      The same Democrats that ceased to exist following their cynical, unelected, unrepresenative and unaccountable intrusion into the promises of an elected Government?

      All this discussion of the about the Democrats makes me wonder about their fate at the election following their abuse of their balance of power.

    • jf says:

      02:40pm | 04/03/11

      “If you are a vegetarian and you work at a restaurant that has beef on the menu do you deserve to be burnt at the stake?”

      That depends on your reasons for being a vegetarian. If you are a vegetarian because you believe that eating meat is cruel, then yes. If you are a vegetarian because you don’t like mean, then no. Weird, but no.

      But I see your point.

    • Peter says:

      05:18pm | 05/03/11

      Gillards I will not tax carbon but push for an ETW was direct am explicit encouragement to the deveoloper so the New Technology, Obahma, Gillard and Brown al welcomed.
      Gillards flip to a carbon tax is more akin to Combetts Coal has a future with a carbon tax. The new Gillard/Combett stand opposes any conversion to the New Technology and takes away the money polluters need to convert to non carbon electricity supply.
      This new Gillard/Combett appeasement to the Coal Union is best expressed in todays The Australian. Coal burning is safe under labor.

    • Peter says:

      05:51pm | 05/03/11

      Greg Combett today released details of Gillards 2010 election promise of an Independant Climate Commision.

      “Terms of Reference – Climate Commission
      Purpose
      The Climate Commission (the Commission) has been established to inform Australia’s approach to addressing climate change and help build the consensus required to move to a competitive, low pollution Australian economy.
      Tasks
      The Commission will provide information and expert advice to:
      Explain the purpose and operation of a carbon price and how it may interact with the Australian economy and communities.”

    • Lachlan McKenzie says:

      04:03am | 07/03/11

      Come on Russel mate. Give up the act. You’ve lost the debate.

      It is economically conservative to introduce a carbon tax. Yes. That is the argument. Currently, according to objective sciences, our economy is set to be dented by the effects of pollution. The carbon price will dent the economy by less than this amount.

      Greens voters are more likely to be educated young people. I’m one of them. Just being old and grey doesn’t make you an expert, it just makes you old.

      We have heard both sides, including yours. We agree with the majority of scientists and economists.

      Get out of the way and stop ruining our future with your immature mud-slinging.

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      11:08am | 28/04/11

      This is alot of rubbish Russell, not suited to your level of intelligence unless you are getting to old & feeble like Abbott and the rest of the Coalition retirement village.

      Dump your advisors they are ruining you…

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