American satirist HL Mencken once observed that democracy is the pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. Witnessing the latest efforts of the reactionary wing of Australian politics to develop a local branch office of the Tea Party, misanthropic as it may seem, one must concede perhaps Mencken had a point. 

Should the Bundy Bear be the next Sarah Palin? Picture: Supplied

Of course, over-the-top rallies are not strange occurrences in Australian political life. Labor has been traditionally associated with uncouth Trade Unions demos, the Greens with hippies blockading various environmental degradations, and of course conservative parties show up at various meetings of annoyed farmers and frustrated middle-class types.

Obviously politicians of all stripes try to utilise such groundswells to further their own agendas, rather than the interests of the masses they claim to represent.

The interesting turn in this contemporary case is primarily how clumsily the formula is being transcribed.

Many have argued that John Howard’s political success was tied to his mastery of conservative wedge politics borrowed from US conservatives; the dog whistle being the most elegant art form in his repertoire.

Contrastingly the populist “direct action” which attempts to mimic US Tea Party movement, employed first in the campaign against a mining super-profits tax and now against a carbon tax, seems as spontaneous and genuine as any Soviet People’s Committee.

Sadly, it seems the organisations and interests associated with reactionary politics in Australia are also extremely lacking creative skills. For starters where is the party name? The Tea Party is simply gold in terms of the imagined identity it conjures for sympathetic Americans: contemporary descendants of the self-organising, local patriots who mischievously defied an oppressing power. All the things a major nationwide political movement reflecting entrenched elite interest wants its rank and file to imagine it to be.

In the Australian setting I would like to suggest the Rum Party after the colonial-era Rum Rebellion.

In this little incident of “direct action” politics, colonial magnate John MacArthur took advantage of ill feeling against the Governor of the day William Bligh to organise an uprising. While there can be little doubt Blight was a poor leader, MacArthur’s role was far from altruistic. Before Mother England could reassert coherent authority MacArthur used the intervening period to assume public office and further his own interests.

While these historic details perhaps work against the use of the name “Rum Party” they shouldn’t be much of a handicap. The very nature of direct action politics runs completely against any notion of attention to detail, considered debate, or collaborative participation.

Instead it tends to favour loud displays of agitated faux individualism. These provide cover for the reality that direct action populism is predicated on the emotional rewards of blissful, ignorant, group membership. Assume the imagined identity, live it, love it, it’s much easier than thinking for yourself.

If you’re lucky someone might even give you a nice placard to carry.

So, as we encounter further displays by disgruntled Australians being serenaded by politicians with vague policies promising billions of dollars of “direct action” democracy to the benefit of their interested friends and allies, let us remember Mencken’s warning. 

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    • Erick says:

      04:57am | 28/03/11

      You’ve managed to incorporate pretty much every dreary left-wing misconception about popular conservative movements into one concentrated bitter pill of ignorance.

      If you’d actually followed the Tea Party phenomenon in the US, you’d know that all of the smears you spout here have been tried in order to discredit that movement - and all have failed dismally.

      There’s another quote you could do well to read - it’s a definition of insanity.

    • acotrel says:

      07:15am | 28/03/11

      ‘colonial magnate John MacArthur took advantage of ill feeling against the Governor of the day William Bligh to organise an uprising.’

      John MacArthur should be remembered as the patron saint of poisonous politics.  He would have just loved Tony Abbott !!!!

    • AdamC says:

      08:33am | 28/03/11

      Erick, I agree - the lazy Australian left’s prejudiced characterisations of American conservative politics is one of the few rhetorical devices they have left that gets them any traction. That is why we hear so much about how bad the Tea Party is from the ‘progressive’ elites who studiously make a point about knowing absolutely nothing about it.

      I don’t think a Tea Party movement is what we need in Australia. Our political system is simply not as dysfunctional as the US one currently is.

    • nihonin says:

      05:40pm | 28/03/11

      acotrel, should I bring a towel or a mop and bucket to aisle 3, for the amount of crap and bile you spew, take a look at the poison which is currently in government!

    • Comrade Comraderson says:

      01:20pm | 29/03/11

      Comrade Logan should have pointed out more explicitly that leftists like us should be allowed to vote, but only the right should be banned. Their outrageous reactionary behaviour at the “peaceful” anti-gaia rally proves that only the left can be trusted with democracy due to our intellectual superiority.

      The Tea Party are evil, because I say they they are. Just because they’ve never rioted or broken any laws does not mean they’re not reactionary. They just are. If you want to look at non-reactionaries, just look at the protests in London to see how intellectual us lefties are.

    • TimB says:

      05:28am | 28/03/11

      Yet another attempt to smear the participants in the carbon tax rallies. *yawn*

      Get bored with trying to demonise them all by pointing at the disposition of a few? Now you had to dig through our history to find a tenuous link to make, in order to futher ridicule the genuine concerns of a whole lot of people?

      Well done. I mean you’re clearly in favor of a useless tax, so could have tried arguing your case for that instead with an attempt to use facts and reason. But instead, but you took the far classier option of (badly) playing the man (men? people?) not the ball. Kudos.

    • acotrel says:

      07:19am | 28/03/11

      Wasn’t that rally in Munich about the carbon tax? Tony Abbott should grow a toothbrush moustache!

    • TimB says:

      08:03am | 28/03/11

      Good Lord. ‘Tony Abbott is Hitler’?

      This is the argument you’ve been reduced to? You truly are the King of Morons.

      I know we have the general distatste for Godwin’s law around here due to its extreme overuse, but with Fairsfair’s permission I’d like to invoke it now. After all if it can’t be called on Acotrel’s utterly ridiculous comment, when can it be called?

    • Bilby says:

      08:32am | 28/03/11

      Poor form acotrel. Still stinging?

    • Ironside says:

      09:16am | 28/03/11

      wow goodwins law proven in a response to the second post of the day, that has to be a new record, even for you actorel.

      Where is the left wing condemnation of the violence in the weekends rally in london, where police were injured, property destroyed and people arrested? Noooo cant possibly do that because that was a left wing trade union rally.

    • acotrel says:

      10:13am | 28/03/11

      I suggest that Godwin’s law only ever relates to mention of Nazis on this forum.  The ‘commie’ slur doesn’t come under its jurisdiction?

    • Ironside says:

      10:35am | 28/03/11

      Actorel when you are refering to the Munich rallys and that Tony Abbott should grow a toothbrush moustache, you are obviously refering to both hitler and the nazi’s therefore you have proven goodwins law.

    • VVS says:

      10:41am | 28/03/11

      You should look up what Godwin’s Law actually is acotrel so you don’t sound so foolish next time.

    • hot tub political machine says:

      10:45am | 28/03/11

      Nah, Acotrel. There is no rule about the reds under the bed crowd. Everyone just knows that their sanity left them decades ago – which incidentally is where their politics are permanently stuck, jousting against blacklisted windmills.

    • TimB says:

      10:48am | 28/03/11

      No it doesn’t Acotrel. You know why?

      Because Godwin’s law relates specifically to Nazis and not communists. In the same way speeding laws are only applied to cars and not pedestrians.

      You don’t like it? Take it up with the Internet police.

    • marley says:

      10:51am | 28/03/11

      @Acotrel - the reason Godwin’s law only every applies to Nazis on this forum is because Godwin’s law only applies to Nazis, period.  You want an equivalent law for communists, you’ll have to dream up Acotrel’s law for references to Communism/Reds/Stalin/Mao etc.  Go for it.

    • Kevin says:

      12:05pm | 28/03/11

      “Yet another attempt to smear the participants in the carbon tax rallies.”
      “you’re clearly in favor of a useless tax, so [you] could have tried arguing your case for that instead with an attempt to use facts and reason.”
      The use of “facts and reason” was evident at the carbon tax rally - “Bob Browns Bitch”; “Ju-LIAR”; “Ditch the Witch”.

    • Bilby says:

      12:23pm | 28/03/11

      Indeed Kevin. Calling Ju-LIAR a witch smears the good name of Wiccans everywhere. The others seem fairly obvious and hardly worth commenting on.

    • Squeeze says:

      02:37pm | 28/03/11

      TimB. They may not be King but those protestors were first class morons for making those bitch and witch references. Truly moronic. Same goes for all references to red hair.  If you’re going to join the fight, don’t hand the opponents the key to the armoury.

    • acotrel says:

      09:57pm | 28/03/11

      Tony Abbott didn’t fare well on the subject of those signs, on Q&A tonight?

    • acotrel says:

      10:16pm | 28/03/11

      TimB says:08:03am | 28/03/11

      Good Lord. ‘Tony Abbott is Hitler’?

      ALL IN THE FULLNESS OF TIME!

    • TimB says:

      07:05am | 29/03/11

      No Acotrel. Not in the fullness of time. The comparison is ridiculous, as are your hysterically stupid posts.

    • TChong says:

      06:50am | 28/03/11

      TimmyB- “Yet another attempt to smear…”  “..trying to demonise them all by pointing at the disposition of a few ?”.
      With our adversarial system of almost everything , that statement could be applied to anything.
      Conservatives and union bashing is a good example.

    • TimB says:

      07:11am | 28/03/11

      Ah, how predictible. The “So are you!!!” defence.

      You’re slipping Chongy.

    • TChong says:

      07:56am | 28/03/11

      Slipping?
      I wish i’  t’ were that simple, me boy ( as I reach for more cough medecine, and the suns no where near the yard arm)

    • I Feral.esq says:

      06:02pm | 28/03/11

      Weak as piss TChong,like support for Labor,,Got Nuttin

    • Joan says:

      06:58am | 28/03/11

      The only Commrade running the political show in Australia is Commrade Juliar ex Socialist Forum member ....who knifed Rudd overnight….. the classic Soviet tactic and her lies to the people to get into government…. then uses manipulative language to excuse and justify.  Keep up your fantasy about Australian people who disagree with Juliar big Carbon Tax… call them what you like - the right thing to do is give the people a chance at the voting box…..a vote on the Carbon Tax…. lied to by Juliar and Commrade Juliar who denies the voters this right,  the power of a real voice a vote at the ballot box on a Carbon Tax.  The tame placards of protest in Australia are a direct contrast to the destructive actions as shown by the Left wing in UK protests .... perhaps you would like more of that .... but then no you wouldn’t see that today we have Leftie Juliar in government.

    • acotrel says:

      07:43am | 28/03/11

      @Joan Godwin’s law is only ever invoked when Nazis are mentioned on this forum, never when the ‘commie’ slur is used.  You must be one of those conservative catholics who werre brought up on the ravings of Mr B.A.Santamaria.  We paid the price for commie phobia by getting involved in Vietnam because of it.  More than 380 Australian servicemen died.  My friend was the very first!

    • acotrel says:

      07:56am | 28/03/11

      Who paid the ‘anarchists’ to foment violence, and bring the lefties into disrepute?  The easiest way to destroy the credibilty of citizens with legitimate concerns is to bring violence into a rally.  The left knows that very well, AND SO DO THE CONSERVATIVES!

    • Joan says:

      09:58am | 28/03/11

      Acotrel I`m responding to writer`s `now against a carbon tax, seems as spontaneous and genuine as any Soviet People’s Committee.` ... the write`s over reaction to a few placards and his inference that somehow his views on Carbon Tax are superior to anti Carbon Tax views yet provides just Juliar namecalling style to support his superior intelligence which is not evident in this article. Of course Mum and Dad protestors don’t resort to violence or pay others to do it for them. They are not as scarey as this writer would like us to think. Of course unionist are organised and have access to plenty of funds .. and to pay for violence at protests.

    • Ryan says:

      10:02am | 28/03/11

      @acotrel: oh my, a whole two posts without mentioning Tony Abbott, what is happening acotrel, is that really you?

    • Reg says:

      10:39am | 28/03/11

      @ actorel
      That’s because Godwin’s law specifically refers to either Hitler or Nazis… not communism.

      Idiot.

    • iansand says:

      12:47pm | 28/03/11

      Spontaneuos demonstation?  Who spontaneoused the buses into existence?

    • nihonin says:

      05:52pm | 28/03/11

      Go buy another copy of Woman’‘s Weekly acotrel.  You’re going to pop an artery soon.

    • Patrick Kelly says:

      07:20am | 28/03/11

      Pathetic clutching at straws here in an effort to fill a few column inches with faux intellectual content. On the basis of the sentiments underlying this column , all expressions of public opinion are suspect. We may as well end the democratic experiment here and now and let our betters run things for us.  Let’s have no more “uncouth Trade Unions demos,”  “hippies blockading” or “meetings of annoyed farmers and frustrated middle-class types.” 
      “Rum” indeed!

    • james milton says:

      07:31am | 28/03/11

      You forgot to mention the urine-filled condoms thrown at pensioners when they had the audacity to want to attend a speech by Pauline Hanson.

      Those are the lows the left will stoop to in order to silence anyone who doesn’t agree with them. And they rarely get called out for it in the media.

      But some middle class people stage a peaceful protest and suddenly they’re a deranged, lunatic mob, a real threat to society. Or so the left will tell you.

    • Jim says:

      07:49am | 28/03/11

      It’s the only tool the left a actually good at employing james - i.e. label someone with an emotive word such as racist, extremist, denier, sceptic, bigot, xenophobe, homophobe, etc, whenever someone disagrees with them.
      NSW showed on the weekend that people are waking up to just how bad Labor and the Greens are.

    • Ryan says:

      10:09am | 28/03/11

      @Jim: and the media should be taking the message also, its time to restore some integrity to journalism, we aren’t fooled by your blatant partisanship anymore.
      This was proven by the way they painted those average, joe public, working mums and dads who went to the rally on Wednesday.
      The media is on notice, pick up your game or face boycotts.

    • The Badger says:

      10:29am | 28/03/11

      Ryan
      No one is saying that some of the The Young Liberals, DLP, Climate Skeptics, the National Civic Council and the Conservative Action Network and One Nation people who were the core fof the rally aren’t mums and dads as well.
      Why, can you link to an article that said they WERE NOT?

      Poor kids, having parents in the lunatic fringe party. Won’t someone think of the children?

    • Jim says:

      10:58am | 28/03/11

      Like the poor kids dragged along to Combet’s union rallies in the Hunter, or the Patricks Stevedores, Badger? Like those kids?

    • Ryan says:

      11:10am | 28/03/11

      @The Badger: I was there, and I call you a liar. Quite simply spewing forth the same BS as the now exposed partisan liars GetUp.

      I walked around that entire rally and saw none of these supposed fringe groups you mention, while they might or might not have been there they were not visible. Do post some pictures of them if you have any.
      The most extreme thing I saw was I got handed a newsletter from a guy obviously supporting a republic and found the flyer more anti-pom than being a sound argument for a republic.

      The core of the people that were there Badger were moms and dads, there were prams a plenty, toddlers and babies, grand-mums and grand-dads all there for the same reason I was there, they were angry at being lied to and subsequently treated like mugs by this offensive and arrogant government.

      I will give you this though Badger, there was a bit of a show of hands as to who was from what state, NSW was clearly over represented there, this may be as to how far people would have had to travel to get there so take that as you will and twist it whatever way you wish, at least I can be honest about that.

      Quite honestly I would prefer to argue semantics with someone that was actually there rather than someone with obvious leanings and towing the same arrogant party line. Badger, if this NSW election wasn’t a warning to you lying Labor lot, then ignore at your peril.
      Oh and keep spewing out the vile hatred towards ordinary mum and dad taxpayers, Labor comeuppance is coming as mums and dads now have their eyes wide open.

    • The Badger says:

      11:33am | 28/03/11

      ryan
      Guess you didn’t run into Pauline and her support base then?

      The lunatic fringe - not surprised you were there ryan. Did you run into dash timmie and the rest of the fringe?

    • The Badger says:

      01:05pm | 28/03/11

      ryan here is a pretty unbiased account of someone who was actually there.
      thanks for the coalition approved and edited footage for the party faithful. - I wonder what they did with the footage of the lunatic fringe they shot? Probably keep in safe for showing at the lunatic fringe members meetings.
      http://tinyurl.com/4q9xg8t

    • Ryan says:

      03:06pm | 28/03/11

      @The Badger: is that what you call unbiased? I already told you most of the facts that this article covered before launching into derogatory undertones and accusations around the AMERICAN tea party which I fail to see has any relevance to the average mums and dads here in Australia trying to be heard.
      Are you retired Badger? It has become blatantly obvious that you couldn’t give a damn about the jobs that will be lost due to this carbon tax, you couldn’t give a stuff about the people who will be put on struggle street because of this tax, not to mention the pensioners who will suffer immeasurably as they are already due to much higher prices.
      I know I shouldn’t be surprised because you blindly support the government that has delivered the highest cost of living we have ever had to endure in Australia, not that you care since you probably don’t feel it.
      What is sad is that you care so little for your fellow man that you support whatever tyranny just so long as you richies get your ETS so you can trade the air we breathe to make you and the likes of Al Gore even richer.
      What next Badger, you going to campaign for slavery so you can buy and sell us ordinary taxpayers like commodities?

    • The Badger says:

      04:19pm | 28/03/11

      “What next Badger, you going to campaign for slavery so you can buy and sell us ordinary taxpayers like commodities? “
      Sorry ryan, I’m not a conservative and I didn’t endorse serf choices.
      The left will make us slaves indeed.

    • Ryan says:

      09:46am | 29/03/11

      @The Badger: nope the left never had gulags, work camps, Siberia was just a holiday camp. Again your partisanship is laughable.

    • Ryan says:

      09:46am | 29/03/11

      @The Badger: nope the left never had gulags, work camps, Siberia was just a holiday camp. Again your partisanship is laughable.

    • The Badger says:

      12:23pm | 29/03/11

      @ryan
      I liked what I said so much, I said it twice.
      Excellent diversion. From howards legislation to enslave the worker to Russian Siberia.
      Poor effort ryan - saying it twice doesn’t make it any less laughable.

    • Tubesteak says:

      07:47am | 28/03/11

      Love that quote by Mencken. Reminds of the one from Churchill about democracy.

      When the poorly informed and poorly educated are allowed to have a voice then what comes out is garbage.

      Empty vessels and all that…..

    • Squeeze says:

      02:05pm | 28/03/11

      They’re all just echoing Socrates aren’t they?

    • acotrel says:

      10:05pm | 28/03/11

      @ Tubesteak It’s like the one from Bernie Ecclestone that ‘democracy hasn’t served us very well’!  They couldn’t take a joke when I suggested on a motor sport forum, that someone should do a cost/benefit analysis on Formula One racing ! Some of those jumped up ponces should keep their big mouths shut tight!

    • acotrel says:

      07:48am | 28/03/11

      How about the ‘anarchists’ who disrupted a left wing rally against the conservatives in London with violence.  I wonder who was paying them to discredit the legitimate concerns of a large sector of the community?

    • Ryan says:

      11:15am | 28/03/11

      @acotrel: For once I actually agree with you on something, the police have been identified and caught on occasion as being these “anarchists” who seek to stir up these sorts of rally’s. I find this act despicable and offensive in the extreme, people should have the right to voice their concerns without others trying to derail the message. Much like GetUp did when they planted that guy with the offensive sign on Wednesday.

    • Richard says:

      11:25am | 28/03/11

      Thankyou acotrel, I wanted to make a comment about those demostrations/riots in England on the weekend, so I’ll just tack it on underneath your comment.

      These protesters are unhappy about the Tory government’s vicious cuts to the public budget. Rather than cut funding for schools, university, and welfare programs (as well a military spending cuts, although you don’t hear them being protested too much against), the popular refrain is for the government to “tax the rich” instead. Tax rates on the rich in Britain have been increased,  to over 50% now, but that is not enough for these protesters, they want to really hit them hard for everything they’ve got.

      But there’s just one problem with that: the rich don’t have any money either.

      Make no mistake, the rich are hocked up to their eyeballs in debt, they are totally insolvent. Pumping taxes on the rich any higher will push them into bankruptcy, or cause them to flee the country.

      There are plenty of places they can go, they are not bound to Britain. But the other thing is, what do you think the rich do with their money? Most of them don’t use $100 notes to light their cigars. Most of them don’t put golden toilet bowls in their bathrooms.

      They use their wealth to invest in the economy, which creates jobs. Driving away or bankrupting all the wealthy people in a country is the surest and quickest way to cripple an economy permanently.

      Life isn’t fair, nor should it be. There must be wealthy people and poor people in society, or else why should the average person go to work? They aspire to be rich and they are afraid of being poor. Take away these twin motivations and you are left with a dysfunctional society.

      This is the critical flaw in socialist philosophy, and why our own government should repent of their socialist ways and turn all of our economy over to the laissez-faire free market in its entirety.

      N.B. This does not mean we should have a carbon market. Carbon permits are entirely an artificial construct of legislature and can have no place in a true free market economy.

    • Economist says:

      02:13pm | 28/03/11

      @Ryan you state “Much like GetUp did when they planted that guy with the offensive sign on Wednesday.”

      This is a serious accusation and the first I’ve heard of this. If this is the case the media should have focused on it far more than it has. Can you please provide substantial evidence supporting this such as details of the individual involved a evidence that they are a current Get UP member, not a former one. I’ve Goggled this, looking for supporting evidence, but can’t find any. If your accusation is unfounded you do yourself a disservice, particularly when you contradict Badgers assertions of far right groups being at the rally, when they were there as they’re entitled to be.

    • Squeeze says:

      02:15pm | 28/03/11

      @ Ryan.  “Much like GetUp did when they planted that guy with the offensive sign on Wednesday.”
      Are you serious?  Or just starting a rumour?

    • Economist says:

      02:24pm | 28/03/11

      @Richard I have concerns with many of your assertions about laissez faire - free market economics. I’d argue its disturbing the assertion that the only drivers in the world should be the want of being rich and the fear of being poor. This is not what economics is about and you’d have Smith rolling in his grave.

      Your assertion of taxing the rich out of existence and economies collapsing has no basis in fact or history. Even the US had tax rates of 70-90% between 1917-1970 and a functioning economy. Sure I agree such tax rates can be a disincentive but the key is everything is relative, the rich were still rich. The economic model you seem to approve of is one free of regulation, a psychopathic anarchist world where wealth creation is trumped above life itself.

      The fact that you don’t want a price on carbon dioxide indicates you have no understanding of market failure and negative externalities associated with production.

      The arguments economists should be having is on the nuances of the role of government and market to work together to achieve socially desirable outcomes. A world left totally to government or totally to the market is a dangerous world.

      You do yourself a disservice by arguing such an extreme.

    • Ryan says:

      03:09pm | 28/03/11

      @Economist: lets just say my assertion is based on the same assertion by GetUp that there were less than 1500 people there. I will openly say this is a tongue in cheek comment, but take it as you will, if you believe GetUp got a figure of 1500 people from the AFP then you can believe my completely unfounded statement also.

    • Richard says:

      03:46pm | 28/03/11

      No Economist, nothing of the sort.

      I do not advocate a “psychopathic anarchist world where wealth creation trumps above even life itself.” In fact I am very keen to see the rule of law upheld and preserved, for personal rights, human rights and property rights to be upheld, for contracts to be enforceable and for the integrity of our borders secured. There is nothing psychopathic or anarchic about my world view.

      Yet I don’t buy the socialist assertion that the rich are out to take advantage of the poor and must therefore be forced to do the right thing. I have faith in the goodwill of humanity, and in the basic decency and common-sense of most people.

      We don’t need to be regulated into submission and taxed out of our prosperity. What a cynical and mean-spirited way to conceptualise the organisation of society!

      Tax rates between 70%-90%! That is highway robbery. I’m sorry but I don’t care how poor someone is, that doesn’t mean that 90% of the value of a “rich” person’s labour may justly be redistributed.

      I do have understanding of “market failures” and “externalities”, yet I reject those theories. A true free market in a globalised world has no externalities. The carbon dioxide problem will solve itself as peak oil impacts and fossil fuels become uneconomical, all on their own, as a function of the free market, without interference from the meddling government.

      The thing about the government is its just so arbitrary, and therefore inefficient. The free market is dynamic, alive, pulsing with vitality, promoting vigour, agility and litheness. Governments ossify and bloat, promoting inflexibility, waste and corpulence.

      Governments are the problem with the world’s economy, there can be no doubt about that Economist, and you are doing yourself a disservice to try and defend the indefensible.

    • Economist says:

      05:32pm | 28/03/11

      @Ryan two wrongs don’t make a right. You’ve undermined your argument and reduced your credibility by admitting that your statement has no basis in fact. Though I’ll give you credit for being honest in your response.

    • acotrel says:

      10:14pm | 28/03/11

      @Richard
      ‘N.B. This does not mean we should have a carbon market. Carbon permits are entirely an artificial construct of legislature and can have no place in a true free market economy.’

      If the state EPA’s did their job, and fined polluters under existing legislation, there would be no need for a ‘carbon tax’.  However the costs from the fines would still be passed on to consumers, with no compensation from the government!

    • Ryan says:

      09:50am | 29/03/11

      @Economist: I didn’t see you condemning the first wrong so to attempt a moral high ground now is hypocritical no? Oh wait I forgot, the left are allowed to be completely immoral, tell barefaced lies to the people “there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead” and call ordinary hard working Australian citizens “extremists” with impunity and their credibility remains?
      At least I admitted my baseless accusation, Gillard has yet to admit she barefaced lied to the people to claim office through falsehoods.

    • Tim says:

      08:19am | 28/03/11

      I agree with the sentiments of this article.
      But you forgot to mention the main group that engages in this: GETUP.

    • Dirk Hartog says:

      08:19am | 28/03/11

      After wading through the bile in the comments above I came to the realisation that the problem with modern day politics is not our politicians but giving uneducated proles a public platform such as this in which to vent their spleen. One begats the other.

    • marley says:

      12:18pm | 28/03/11

      Yeah, well, as I’ve said before, freedom of speech is a real bitch, isn’t it? 

      By the way, who is the ALP supposed to represent, if not the “proles?” It was, after all, created by and in the interest of those self-same proles you disparage.

    • Bobster says:

      01:09pm | 28/03/11

      marley,

      I don’t think the problem is uneducated proles so much as it is the undereducated but over-enthusiastic bourgeois parasites - first against the wall when the revolution comes, that mob.

    • marley says:

      01:33pm | 28/03/11

      @bobster - well, but that still leaves us educated and unenthusiastic bourgeois parasites.  What about us?  10 years in exile,  working the salt mines, do you think?  It seemed to work a treat for Stalin with the bourgeois engineers.  Only I’m not very good with a pick and shovel.

    • hot tub political machine says:

      08:30am | 28/03/11

      Yes, I think the Australian Tea Party shot itself in the foot the moment it called itself “The Australian Tea Party”. Because after all, there’s nothing that adds more legitimacy to your group than an oxymoron name about an event that happened on the other side of the world to Australia. 

      As for nutty protestors of the union and angry rich guy varieties is there anything more silly than adult feral protests? At least when you where a teenager yelling out juvenile swear words you had an excuse because you where, well, juvenile. You would hope that the older protesters would be more along the lines of the attention grapping spectacular signs/costumes kind. Lately in Oz its just been spit flying from an old dudes mouth though……..

    • marley says:

      08:56am | 28/03/11

      Poorly written article, to say the least.  How, pray tell, does the description of the “reactionaries” and their tactics differ in the slightest from, for example, the Greens?  A party born (in Australia anyway) out of popular protest, but adopting a derivative name, developing a mass of “feel good” but incoherent policies and relying on placards rather than hard-headed analysis and economic rationale to make their case?

    • The Badger says:

      09:41am | 28/03/11

      “For starters where is the party name?”
      Whilst I do like the Rum party name, I believe it already has a name.
      It’s called the lunatic fringe party. It’s comprised of among others; The Young Liberals, DLP, Climate Skeptics, the National Civic Council and the Conservative Action Network and One Nation. It’s a melting pot of all the things that live on the far right and feed off the fear and hate they preach to the nation.
      You may have noticed Abbott attending one of their rallies last week where he assumed the status of poster boy for the movement.

    • Cabal says:

      11:27am | 28/03/11

      Climate Skeptics…. really ?

    • The Badger says:

      01:22pm | 28/03/11

      Really
      Not sure how the one issue party actually made out at the last election. Perhaps you could have a look if you’re interested.
      http://climatesceptics.net/?page_id=1258
      Have some fun and get up to the minute information on the fraud they believe is climate change at their main Australian page
      and while you’re there, you can get a good fell for how many were at the “rally” by recognising them from pictures taken at the rally. They are the ones wearing the “tea” shirts you can see at their Australian website. (check out the front page of their Australian web page)
      Nothing to worry about, just part of the lunatic fringe that showed up and adopted Abbott as their poster boy.
      Fitting really


      http://www.nocarbontax.com.au/

    • Wilma J Craig says:

      11:22am | 28/03/11

      Firstly let me say I loathed Howard, the politician.
      During the Howard years there were demonstrations, fully supported by the ALP & the ever-undemocratic Unions at which Howard was vilified as being “Hitler”, “A Murderer”, “a Fascist”, “a Racist”, “a Sexist” and a “Xenophobic Bastard” - you name it at every demo against him the banners & placards were all there. Being the consumate politician, nor must we forget for Australian democracy a true example of that system, Howard simply ignored the all the abuse.
      Contrast Howard’s statesman-like behaviour to that of the current Prime Minister & her masters, the Greens, over the recent deomos against the ALP’s New carbon Tax!
      Howls of feigned outrage, accusations of sexism, despicable behaviour, the protestors are attacking Gillard because she is a female, Abbott is abused in the Parliament by Gillard because he was seen & photographed attending the demo & that he dared to do so whilst some clown was behind him with a placard critical of Gillard.
      If she, or anyone else, can’t stand the heat in the kitchen then they should get out. Politics are dirty. They always have been & will be.
      If it is good enough for protestors from one side of politics to make obnoxious banners & placards about those on the other side then it is good enough for those from the other side to do the same.
      The fact that Gillard is female does not entitle her to preferential treatment over the males in the same profession.

    • The Badger says:

      11:50am | 28/03/11

      What was the matter with Howard, Wilma?
      Not far enough to the right for your tastes?

      You’ll love this new lunatic fringe party Abbott started.
      Perhaps you were at the rally with ryan?

    • Huey says:

      11:59am | 28/03/11

      What is Godwins Law? Somebody? Please?

    • marley says:

      12:23pm | 28/03/11

      @Huey (and Acotrel) - Godwin’s Law is the postulation, put forward by Mike Godwin about 20 years ago, that the longer an internet conversation lasts, the greater the chance that someone will invoke Nazis or Hitler.  The implication is that, if you have to resort to references of this type, you’ve lost the argument because you’re appealing (usually) to emotion rather than reason.

      What Acotrel’s references to communists has to do with it, is a mystery but one, I suspect, that could become a corollary to Godwin’s Law.

    • Chris L says:

      08:08pm | 28/03/11

      I know there’s one the punchers have been using in regards to calling people “unAustralian” but I can’t remember what it’s called.

    • Wickerman says:

      12:08pm | 28/03/11

      I think what people forget/dont realise is that TEA party is also an acronym - Taxed Enough Already. So in that part it can be translated to Australia. Sure Tea Party also references the Boston Tea Party, the trigger for the colonial revolt. But what interests me is left-leaning protests are forgiven/endorsed, but right-leaning protest are condemned/ridiculed by professional commentators. The implied right to protest is NOT owned by the left and they (left) get all precious when people take to the streets that oppose or differ from their views.

    • James1 says:

      01:44pm | 28/03/11

      The interesting thing about the tax which the Boston Tea Party was opposing was that it was promulgated in order to get the American colonies to pay for a war being fought on their behalf by Britain.  Furthermore, it would have acted to make non-black market tea more affordable, thus putting the black market traders in tea out of business.  Essentially, the Boston Tea Party was organised by a bunch of smugglers who didn’t want to pay for a war which was beneficial to their interests to help prevent their black market economy from going bust by making honest tea traders viable in face of black market competition.

      But hey, Americans don’t tend to let facts get in the way of their historiography…

    • Sons of Liberty says:

      02:22pm | 28/03/11

      The Tea Act
      1773 Act that gave a monopoly on tea sales to the East India Company. In other words, American colonists could buy no tea unless it came from that company. Why? Well, the East Indian Company wasn’t doing so well, and the British wanted to give it some more business. The Tea Act lowered the price on this East India tea so much that it was way below tea from other suppliers. But the American colonists saw this law as yet another means of “taxation without representation” because it meant that they couldn’t buy tea from anyone else (including other colonial merchants) without spending a lot more money. Their response was to refuse to unload the tea from the ships. This was the situation in Boston that led to the Boston Tea Party.
      Tea Party was accomplished by the Sons of Liberty that grew out of the opposition to the Stamp Act 8 years earlier.

      Brits obviously have a different idea of what went down.
      Americans have period documents. British have - well, “god save the king”

    • James1 says:

      02:45pm | 28/03/11

      “The Tea Act lowered the price on this East India tea so much that it was way below tea from other suppliers.”

      Indeed.  However, you forgot to mention that these “other suppliers” were in fact smugglers and criminals, and that the Tea Act threatened their black market monopoly.  It actually lowered the price of tea below that being offered by the smugglers, rather than increasing it as you claim.  The British have documents to prove this, while Americans have, well, “One nation, under god and founding fathers for all…”

    • Sons of Liberty says:

      04:22pm | 28/03/11

      Patriots vs despots.
      hard call

    • Squeeze says:

      05:14pm | 28/03/11

      Sons. Throwing stones at the British? Isn’t the whole point of the Tea Party that America is now as bad as Britain was.

      How is a tax by a government in a foreign land on a foreign company on goods produced in another foreign country ‘taxation without representation’? Bit of a stretch don’t you think?  After all, doesn’t the US impose all sorts of taxes on US companies that export goods made in China to Australia (or oil pumped from the middle east)? Taxes that get spent on the US military which the US claims is fighting to protect Australia’s interests. Can you see the comparison?

      You could always have done without tea or just paid the higher price.  Try running a business without Microsoft or a health system without GSK down under.

      Then there was that whole business about import tariffs on Oz & NZ lamb. Oh and there’s the direct payments to e.g. corn farmers.

      Sorry Sons but US ideology is a garbled message to foreigners like Australians.  Fair enough though, can’t let foreign countries get strong just to see them fall into the hands of tin pot dictators and used against the US. But that just means your freedom fighters look more like just smugglers and criminals to Australians.

    • Sons of Liberty says:

      06:11pm | 28/03/11

      Squeeze
      You really don’t have a clue do you?
      Google tea party for kids. It might be more to your intellectual requirements.

    • Squeeze says:

      09:38am | 31/03/11

      Ahhhh yes. There it is. US aggression. Ever thought that the Brits didn’t give you representation because you’d all rush over there and kick their butts. You kicked their butts anyway.  So their decision to maintain a safe haven to retreat to was wise. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of the US.  Well, the equitable libertarian parts of it.  But the US colonists’ fight for independence was a fight to maintain independence more than it was a fight to gain independence.

      Yes, England tried to start directly taxing its US colonies in the 1760s ‘without consent’. Meanwhile life was rather poor for the average man in the mother country.  But that’s not your problem is it? You’ll kick their apathetic foreign butts too if they threaten your interests. Fine, celebrate refusing to pay the upkeep of British soldiers after the war with the French. Few individuals like paying for what doesn’t seem to be their war. Especially after they’ve lost family members as well. Look at what the US signed Treaty of Versailles helped foment.  Yes the Boston Massacre was outrageous but what, US forces haven’t ever done anything stupid while stationed OS? That’s the problem with armed force, it’s made up of people who panic, do stupid things, are loose cannons or make mistakes. The British soldiers were tried right? The British responded by repealing the offending Revenue Act for everything except for tea. Right? I.e. the British had retreated from internal taxes (Stamp Act) after the tax collectors had been roughed up a bit and now had also retreated from the external taxes (import taxes). The Colonies had won. Fine, celebrate that victory. But that wasn’t enough was it.

      The Tea Act 1773 didn’t impose new taxes did it? The tea tax under the Revenue Act had been in place for years and along with the import restrictions was being successfully circumvented by smuggling. You where kicking Brit butt. The London domiciled HEIC monopoly for the trade of tea out of India required all HEIC tea to go through London where it was heavily taxed (one of the burdens that was driving HEIC into the ground). Tax which was probably used to service your colonies.  Tea was slipping out the back door and heading untaxed straight to the US. (not unlike e.g. Nike joggers trading out the back door of Indonesian factories and Disney DVD’s trading out the back door of factories in China and turn up in markets in Oz.) The Tea Act changed the monopoly so the HEIC could export directly to the US and provided for the British government’s 4/5 subsidy of the HIEC’s transport costs. As I said, how are those direct payments to US corn farmers going? The cheaper imports would have put local importers (smugglers) out of business.  Not unlike cheap Chinese imports are putting US manufacturers out of business now. Or Oz & NZ lamb put US farmers under enough pressure to invoke import duties. Where have I gone wrong on these facts?

      Picture how different the Boston tea party story would sound now if the Brits had imposed the Revenue Act tea tax as an export tax from India etc rather than an import tax in the US. In the ambit of wealth transfer, it’s 6 of one and half a doz of the other.

      The truculent in America don’t want to pay for the war their lifestyle, ambition and aggression helps foment.  Just as much now as in the 1760s.  Well guess what, there’s a cost to maintain lifestyle that isn’t always built into the price. Attacking your foreign allies isn’t going to solve the same problem again this time, it’s a internal issue this time.

    • Huddo says:

      12:16pm | 28/03/11

      How can the left defeat the conservatives in the battle of ideas if they do have the faintest idea of what those people really believe in?  This article is just all the same old recycled rubbish used by the left to explain why the world doesn’t work the way they imagine it should.

      From the authors bio : “He is now badly in need of employment”

      Hmmmmm

    • Jim says:

      03:01pm | 28/03/11

      Wow….dear old Badger has mentioned “lunatic fringe” 8 times already on this page alone!!!

      This almost out-performs acotrel’s efforts when he found a new word to play with once - paradigm!

      So, when’s this new ‘lunatic fringe’ going to do something crazy? Like paint bomb parliament house, or paint a sign on the Opera House, or yell abuse at the US president? Maybe they can send a runner onto the track during Melbourne Cup…or chain themselves to a tree…bring on the lunacy!!!

      No, seriously…doesn’t one have to do some crazy shit to be labelled a lunatic? But then again, the left are great at handing out emotive labels…shame they have seriously underestimated the average Australians intelligence and patience.

    • The Badger says:

      03:10pm | 28/03/11

      Did I mention lunatic fringe?
      Abbott being the poster boy?
      Came out to address the lunatic fringe and get a real feel good feeling from the fringe dwellers he regularly conjures up with the dog whistle howard gave as a going away present?
      Not sure what else to call these people on the extreme right wing of the conservative party. lunatic fringe sounds about right.

    • Mal Adjusted says:

      04:33pm | 28/03/11

      Badger is used to hearing “Lunatic Fringe” and is now using it in the third person,he has secret friend who likes to light fires and commit necrophilia with now dead Labor spin,LOL badge and welcome to Liberal Territory,,,Australia!!!!
      Am enclosing signed poster of Tony Abbott

    • The Badger says:

      04:49pm | 28/03/11

      Mal
      You shouldn’t talk like that about Abbott.
      Rosie has already warned you about defamation laws.

    • Man Adjusted says:

      06:08pm | 28/03/11

      @Badge,, Petrified !    PS dill , never posted to a rosie comment,you facist!

    • thatmosis says:

      03:36pm | 28/03/11

      Its time that acotrel and TChong were sent to Coventry. Any posts that they put up be completely ignored for the stupidity that they foster. Its painfully obvious that they are Labor plants who will do anything and say anything to protect the lieing and cheating that this Government as become infamous for without regard to the truth or the way in which these statement and policies hurt the Australian people.

    • Jim says:

      04:45pm | 28/03/11

      Agree on acotrel….I know the Punch is a bastion of free speech and opinion, but every single morning, first thing…you open the Punch and see a dozen bile-filled posts by acotrel. It’s wearing thin.

      Please do something mods!!!

    • Squeeze says:

      05:21pm | 28/03/11

      “Before Mother England could reassert coherent authority MacArthur used the intervening period to assume public office and further his own interests. “

      That’s gold.  Anyone read about Peter Lalor’s conduct after the Eureka Stockade?  Try starting here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lalor

      What was that again about self interest?

      Oh and Lalor is Gillard’s seat isn’t it?

    • This says:

      07:21pm | 28/03/11

      oooooh
      a link to wikipedia - should be factual gold.
      I’m impresses with the depth of your resources.

    • Squeeze says:

      07:37am | 29/03/11

      Change it if its wrong.

    • Col. of Blackburn says:

      07:12pm | 28/03/11

      Mr Logan
      I was involved in the Melbourne Anti Carbon Tax protest. You will always find some members of rather narrow focused groups turning up to any rally to get the publicity they cannot afford to buy. Just look back to the people at the G20 who assaulted police and broke windows.  We had family groups pushing prams, middle aged people and even a fair sprinkling of ‘senior citizens’  I don’t hear you denigrating GetUp, who are just the leftist equivalent? If you bothered to go to the Australian Tea Party website, you would know that T.E.A. stands for Taxed Enough Already!

    • acotrel says:

      10:24pm | 28/03/11

      About Godwin’s Law, what is said about ‘reductm ad Hitlerum’ could equally apply to ‘reductum ad Stalin’:  Godwin’s Law was obviously written by a conservative! .  For those of you who love authoritarianism - suck on this:

      ’ Godwin’s Law of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] which has become an Internet adage. It states: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.”[3][2] In other words, Godwin put forth the hyperbolic observation that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope— someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.

      Godwin’s law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread Reductio ad Hitlerum form. The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.

    • TimB says:

      07:03am | 29/03/11

      Congratulations. You’ve mastered the art of copy-pasting from wikipedia.

      Now to test your comprehension skills. See if you can find any reference to communism in that.

      No? Well shut up about it then. It doesn’t apply to communism references and it will *never* apply to communism references, no matter how much you cry about it.

 

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