Now we are means-testing people for the right to have an opinion in television commercials, it seems that only those who struggle with absolute penury can speak for Australians.

Based on that logic, this guy should be airing his views on radio. Oh, wait…

Everyone else is tainted by the bias of success and salaries.

Billionaires can’t complain about higher taxes on super-profits; screen stars can’t complain about pollution.

This is clear after the savage reaction to Cate Blanchett’s five second appearance in a TV advert with a bunch of other people.

Clearly, role models are not what they used to be. Once, successful people were listened to because they obviously had useful insights, and not necessarily restricted to their fields of employment.

So for example, footballers might be rounded up to warn against the menace of alcohol overconsumption or explain how to treat girlfriends.

But Blanchett, it seems, cannot support pricing carbon pollution and must limit herself to advice on how to appear in films.

She and advert partners, including fellow actor Michael Caton, backed the imposition of a price on carbon to cut pollution, as proposed in general terms by the Government.

However, Blanchett’s success and her estimated worth of $53 million angered some who insist she has no right to ``lecture’’ anyone worth less than $53 million. This limits her to wagging her finger at about 0.1 per cent of the Australian population.

But it also opens her to becoming a political emblem who can be punished.

Blanchett’s appearance was an opportunity for Opposition MPs who quickly grabbed the chance for a bit of luvvie bashing, with Blanchett a surrogate for Julia Gillard.

This was skilled, hard-core political exploitation of what viewers might have otherwise dismissed as an annoying interruption to normal TV programming. Some below-the-belt moves were involved, as the actress might say to the Abbott.

The Government didn’t fund the ad and Prime Minister Julia Gillard wasn’t involved in it, but the fact that Blanchett essentially agreed with Gillard was enough for Tony Abbott to insist they were a seamless propaganda unit.

“She should stop thinking that a handful of celebrities somehow represents the voice of the Australian people,” Abbott said of Gillard, without providing a source for this claim.

He further said in Parliament: “This is a Prime Minister who is happy to listen to actors, but she won’t listen to voters.

“She wants to say yes to celebrities, but she won’t say yes to the people of Australia by having an election on this topic.”

Those anti-carbon tax people rallied by a Sydney radio station in Canberra few months ago - and criticised for their witch/bitch signs - would have been nodding vigorously.

If Abbott was tough on Gillard, he was brutal towards Blanchett, who when he was finished twisting things sounded like a privileged airhead. 

“I think it’s very important that the actors and celebrities of this country should have their say. They should have their say,” he told Parliament with massive sarcasm.

“People who live in eco mansions have a right to be heard. They really do. People who are worth $53 million have a right to be heard, but their voice should not be heard ahead of the voice of the ordinary working people of Australia.

“Their voice should not be heard ahead of the forgotten families of Australia.”

There was no evidence from Abbott that Blanchett’s opinions were queue jumping.

Abbott insisted voters want an early election on carbon pricing. An Essential Media poll released as he spoke in Parliament revealed there wasn’t majority support for an election. Voters were split 42/42 per cent on the issue.

So who can offer an opinion to Australians if successful people can’t?

Step forward Andrew Laming, a Queensland Liberal federal MP who boasts he is living on less than $1 a day. Surely this means he is poor enough to be free of bias caused by achievement?

He survives “by eating lentils and rice and the occasional little bit of cheese and chocolate”, Laming told reporters last week.

And he makes anti-poverty campaigner Richard Fleming, who last year lived for months on $2 a day, look like Richie Rich.

“And I lived not on $2 a day, but 65 cents a day, so anyone should be able to do it,” said Lamming.

To his significant credit, Laming has under-taken this exercise in deprivation as part of a bid to show people what it would be like to have to live below the poverty line.

And for as long as he continues without benefit of his parliamentary salary he can appear in television ads on carbon pricing, which he opposes.

But should Laming again enjoy his MP’s salary, which like Tony Abbott’s is roughly two and a half times the average individual wage, he will have to join Cate Blanchett on the over-paid outer.

And herewith Mr Laming’s response! First of all, apologies from The Punch for past misspellings of his name. But more importantly, here’s what he had to say following Mr Farr’s piece, above:

The Cate Blanchett storm is a debate not about actors’ rights to campaign, but the degree to which celebrity endorsement works in Australian politics. Our nation is typically sceptical about being told what to do by the rich and powerful. That includes politicians. It is just the way Australians are. It is probably more a bad trait than good, but it constantly reminds public figures to be ‘like them’ rather than walk in our own shoes and tell others what to do.

Part of Blanchett’s dilemma is that she has been shoehorned in with other grabs which barely pass the credibility bar. The 30 second ad features a retiree standing behind a fake one metre dollar coin lauding a carbon tax. That is weird enough. When she says ‘Yes to help for people struggling with their bills,’ and it is the carbon tax which causes the bill increases, scepticism understandably gives way to cynicism. Unfortunately left-wing campaigns notoriously swoon to star power then wonder why such campaigns end up in tears.

Just as footballers can warn against the menace of public health scourges like alcohol over-consumption, Blanchett could have chosen to front any number of less controversial green campaigns; like land clearing, reforestation or bush care. But Blanchett happily signed up for an issue where a fault line runs straight down between two political parties. She chose to back a scheme that PM Gillard promised would never happen under a Government she leads and scepticism is running at nearly 70%.

Blanchett’s reappearance evokes memories of the 2020 summit where there were too many movie stars and too few outcomes. All this lumped together has tipped Blanchett over that subtle line of party politicisation where by entering the cut and thrust of party political debate, she compromises the near universal admiration of being a star. Good on her for the courage to do that.

Most Australians are acutely sensitive to being talked down to. I suspect the reaction to her involvement in middle Australia would have been decidedly mixed. This morning, Blanchett is putting conditionality on her support, including that the poor have to be adequately compensated.

She could start by asking our PM how two blue collar families headed by single-income factory workers are compensated, when one is far more fuel-stressed than the other. In fact, she should have asked these questions before agreeing to appear in the ad. No one else has succeeded in getting those answers from our PM, which is why most would have stayed away from such a superficial and deceitful 30 second advertisement.

Malcolm Farr (in The Punch today) is right that pollies like me are elected to live for a short time on less than a dollar a day. But that is not done in an effort to convince the poor of anything. We endeavoured to walk in the shoes of the 1.7 billion worldwide without food security for a few days, learn a bit about our dependence on food and in the process, raise awareness of going without.

Blanchett’s problem is different. She isn’t trying to see this debate from the perspective of the most vulnerable. Instead she is informing them that the benefits exceed the costs when she isn’t really sure that is the case. The fate of this tax depends overwhelmingly on how the poor are compensated for cost of living, carbon leakage and job losses. The best way forward is a coordinated strategy involving all commodity exporting economies. But Blanchett urges action now and that is what’s likely to worries workers.

Placing it all in perspective, these third-party ads are funded by unions who fund the Labor Government who in turn fund Unions. The ads are also funded by GetUp; majority CFMEU funded, with Labor donors overwhelmingly bankrolling its operations. Blanchett has every right to appear in party political ads and she would have expected the mixed reaction. Her telling us to ‘eat cake and pay the tax’ just doesn’t seem right and in a vigorous liberal democracy, no one need apologise for pointing that out.

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    • Erick says:

      05:54am | 31/05/11

      I’ll believe there’s a crisis when the people who say there’s a crisis start acting like there’s a crisis.

      Sorry, but until Cate Blanchett and Al Gore give up their carbon-flooding multiple homes, private jets and luxury automobiles, I will not be willing to sacrifice any of my own humble luxuries. They are hypocrites, and not worthy of leadership.

    • Jedi_T says:

      07:16am | 31/05/11

      Walk the walk, not talk the talk, hey Erick?
      I think that is too simple for Mal to understand and doesnt make for very entertaining reading.

    • Joan says:

      08:03am | 31/05/11

      Yep, and Cate and Caton piece of propaganda is hardly an opinion piece.

    • acotrel says:

      08:12am | 31/05/11

      ‘He further said in Parliament: “This is a Prime Minister who is happy to listen to actors, but she won’t listen to voters.’

      Tony Abbott - don’t you just love him?  If he succeeded in getting an election today, he’d still lose it!  Desperation is pathetic, but it won’t win votes!

    • Samuel says:

      09:14am | 31/05/11

      Well said.

      Remember, the issue is not that Cate Blanchett has an opinion that she wants to share. She is welcome to do and say whatever she likes, on behalf of whoever she likes, and in whatever forum she likes. The issue is that her involvement is indicative of the monumental credibility problem the environmental movement has.

      Environmentalists seem to completely misunderstand the fact that you can’t go around saying our grandkids will fry, our cities will drown, our crops will burn and all the animals will die and then carry on reaping the benefits of the very cheap electricity you believe is causing this imminent catastrophe.

      It’s one thing to not believe the issue is all that serious (to be a denier, if you really want to go down that path) and choose to not do anything about it. It’s another thing entirely if you really believe it is true and the best you can manage is a TV ad and some marches on the streets.

    • Loxy says:

      09:29am | 31/05/11

      Cate does not own a private jet, no one knows if she has a car and what type and her home is solar-powered so despite it being 10 times the size of yours Erick, it no doubts emits far less emissions. But let’s not let the truth get in the way of bashing someone who has done well in life now shall we?

    • Tom says:

      10:32am | 31/05/11

      Good Loxy, Allan Jones, doesn’t want the tax. I’ll call your celebrity bimbo and raise you with a celebrity that has actually done something in life. What do you reckon?

    • Nafe says:

      10:32am | 31/05/11

      Loxy, and i am sure she is making a pretty penny from the taxpayer for the feed in tarriffs while she is jetsetting all over the world.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      10:33am | 31/05/11

      Oh dear I don’t think I can take another on going social media issue, this time Carbon Cate.

      I have only one gripe and that Cate in her reply to the backlash she received is that she got involved not only to save the environment for her children but that she was assured by ???????? that already struggling families would be compensated. Compensated when we do not have any details????? I was also astonished that Cate had no qualms trusting a PM that lied to the nation; “there will be no carbon tax in the Govt I lead.”

      Sorry Cate that was your downfall and to think that you could use your celebrity status to influence the people to say ‘yes’ to Gillard’s carbon tax is dumb in my eyes.

    • Mark says:

      12:52pm | 31/05/11

      It’s a pity John Howard’s too rich to give his opinion, Mal.

    • Loxy says:

      04:30pm | 31/05/11

      Tom & Nafe, what is it about this country that we begrudge others wealth? What on earth makes Cate a bimbo, do you know her personally? Honestly, I’ve never understood the anger directed at those with wealth in this country. Cate is entitled to an opinion like everyone else on this matter and given she volunteered to do the adds, i.e. isn’t getting paid I fail to see what the big issue is.

    • Tom says:

      09:52am | 01/06/11

      Loxy, you still miss the point. ... perhaps deliberately, eh? ... a bit of sleazy “straw man” tactic straight out of the Labor Hawker Britton handbook?

      No Loxy, I never questioned her right to have an opinion. This is a democracy. However, the paunchy little fat man who works his guts out every day to support a wife and children has just as much authority as Kate Blanchett to express an opinion and would do so if an election was held on the issue. It is only your type who wants to elevate Kate’s opinion on the basis that she is one of the beautiful people and deprive the average punter of having a say in the matter through an election.

      No Loxy, I never questioned Kate’s right to get rich, I leave that sort of wedge politics to the left.

      Loxy, pay more attention to what was written.

    • Super D says:

      05:57am | 31/05/11

      I’m all for Cate Blanchett, Michael Caton and whoever else to make whatever political statements they want on any issue they choose but to think they should be somehow immune from any sort of critique of their publicly stated positions is a bit rich!

      It’s worth noting that both Blanchett and Caton accumulated their wealth as a result of the polluting dinosaur economy.  In the new green economy we won’t be able to afford movie tickets to make them famous or the electricity to display their craft.

    • TChong says:

      07:11am | 31/05/11

      “In the new green economy….”
      Yep, that sounds likely. Back to the candle age.
      Lucky its only the Greenies who make ridiculous statements, isnt it Soupy?

    • L. says:

      07:18am | 31/05/11

      “I’m all for Cate Blanchett, Michael Caton and whoever else to make whatever political statements they want on any issue they choose”

      Agree.. 100%

      It’s just that mega rich people telling me to say yes to a tax that:

      A..They can easily afford and,
      B.. They have not seen the details of..

      Has zero credibility.

      What would have crdibility..??

      A..The details.
      B..A referendum.

    • Super D says:

      08:11am | 31/05/11

      Actually Chongy I was referring to the lack of disposable income that the new green economy allocates to the masses.  Under the new green economy the people can’t be trusted with discretionary spending - hence they won’t have the hard earned to spend on entertainment products.  and Ms Blanchette won’t be able to add to her already substantial pile.

    • iansand says:

      08:59am | 31/05/11

      L - I wonder what Andrew Bolt earns?

    • MarK says:

      09:52am | 31/05/11

      I wonder what iansand earns as a lawyer

    • L. says:

      09:56am | 31/05/11

      “L - I wonder what Andrew Bolt earns?”

      Why does that matter..?? He’s not telling me that I should accept a tax without any detail, and simply say yes to a question that hasn’t been asked of me.

      Dictated to yes…asked, no.

    • Tom says:

      02:35pm | 31/05/11

      @iansand, Blanchette is an actress, who feels it her destiny to dabble in a bit of opinion shaping and talking down to the punters. You lefties are squealing because constituents out there in opinion land give her a deserved razz.

      Bolt is paid to give his opinion. He expects and gets heaps of abuse from your lot.

      You cannot have it both ways. If the heat is too much for your bimbo, petal princess, tell her to “get out of the kitchen”.

    • BL says:

      06:11am | 31/05/11

      Why is it that Labor can get an actress who has no idea of the cost of living to the average australian to support their Carbon Tax but in tax payer funded adverts, yet they REFUSE to listen to the average australian who will be financially worse off when big businesses start passing on the cost of this tax to their consumers?

      For me, this isnt about Cate Blanchett’s wealth… this is about a woman and a political party so OUT OF TOUCH with the average australian, so ignorant to how the majority of australians feel, that when they make these type of bias, one-sided, tax payer-funded adverts, it angers the hell out of those of us that can see this tax not only increasing poverty for many families in this country, but can also see the obvious holes in Labor’s tax (like, how exactly is Labor going to FORCE businesses to adopt more environmentally initiatives when they can just pass on the tax cost to the consumer?) that reveal this tax will do NOTHING to offset carbon, and will do NOTHING but put the average working australian who cant afford to jet-set off to Hollywood when there’s a movie premiere through a whole lot of unnecessary financial pain.

      Also seriously, how can Labor be taken seriously when their own foreign minister is burning his own carbon footprint onto the planet jet-setting across the world so he can secure himself a job in the UN in a several years?

    • Tom says:

      11:07am | 31/05/11

      Good call, BL “... a woman and a political party so OUT OF TOUCH”.

      ... a supercilious protected ego-ridden dipstick pronouncing “Let them eat cake.”

    • Elisabeth says:

      02:41pm | 31/05/11

      BL, didn’t you read this story or any other piece about the ad? This is NOT a government funded ad. This is an initiative developed by a group of environmental orgs (and I think Get Up). Privately funded. Nothing to do with the Govt. So when someone famous agrees with this government, suddenly they’re an indiot.
      Everybody is entitled to an opinion, and some of them can pay for it. Just look at the mining companies that funded the “you’re gonna get whacked” anti mining tax ads, or even the blokes who own almost all of the mainstream media in Australia and use it to voice their own opinions. Nobody mentions that.

    • Lucius says:

      06:14am | 31/05/11

      Malcolm, please explain to me how a carbon tax will affect Cate given that the majority of her time is spent overseas earning millions of dollars to star in films?

      To say that she deserves an opinion when half the time she doesn’t even live in this country is a complete joke.

      Also why couldnt the Gillard Government find any blue-collar working aussies to show their support in adverts?

      Could it be they couldnt find any who support this ridiculous, bias, money-guzzling tax?

    • L. says:

      07:23am | 31/05/11

      “Could it be they couldnt find any who support this ridiculous, bias, money-guzzling tax?”

      They could have asked Pers.. wink

    • Michael N says:

      09:29am | 31/05/11

      “Also why couldnt the Gillard Government find any blue-collar working aussies to show their support in adverts?”

      You mean like the unions whose coffers funded a proportion of these ads?

      It would appear that these issues are transcending the usual political divide and as such, we no longer have one party that speaks for big business and one party that speaks for the blue collar workers. Our elections are becoming more “issues based” and, that being the case, I would suggest that this is a time when we need to gather as many different views as possible so that, when it comes time to casting that precious vote, we’re all as well informed as we can be.

      Disregarding a person’s view because you can’t empathise with their lifestyle or economic status is anathema to everything a tolerant democratic society should be embracing. Don’t hate the rich just because they’re rich - this is just another example of the ugly tall poppy syndrome that we somehow encourage in this country.

    • Catching up says:

      04:21pm | 31/05/11

      “Malcolm, please explain to me how a carbon tax will affect Cate given that the majority of her time is spent overseas earning millions of dollars to star in films?”

      Shame that she lives in an American state that has a price on carbon, that I assume she pays.

      While in Australia she lives in a home that is much larger than yours, O assume but emits very little emission.  She is off the power and water grid.

      It appears she lives as she preaches.

    • ZSRenn says:

      06:30am | 31/05/11

      The government didn’t pay for these ads but they were partly funded by the unions.

      I wonder if the average union member agrees with their hard earned donations being used in an attempt to save 0.073% of global emissions by placing their jobs at risk.

      The lack of credibility caused by Julia’s lie and the creation of the thought police style climate commission has a lot to do with people’s anger.

      Maybe they feel this is just another attempt to manipulate us and disguising the funding under the union banner is just another attempt at this manipulation.

      After all the unions is just another arm of the Labor party and to quote Prime Minister Bob Brown. “Australians are smarter than this and they don’t like to be patronized.”

    • ex-ASU member says:

      07:58am | 31/05/11

      No ZSrenn, the average union member does not agree, which is why I resigned from the ASU last week, because they not only did not consult with members, but they are using member’s money to fund their “Carbon Tax Rallies” across the country. They advertised this not on Twitter and Facebook, but also their own website, you can see ti with your own eyes here:
      http://www.asu.asn.au/media/general/20110524_climate.html

      While I think the non-labor-affiliated Unions are doing a great job, are there for their members, and dont waste their member’s money (yes there are indeed Unions who want nothing to do with the labor party), unions such as the ASU continue to abuse the priviledge their members give them, and continue to waste member’s money on labor propoganda.

      I will never join a labor-affiliated Union again.

    • Kimberley says:

      06:31am | 31/05/11

      So is Cate a protected species? She chose to go out publicly asking Australians to support Gillards Carbon Tax Policy that hasn’t even been completed yet.  A Carbon Tax that clearly doens’t have the support of the majority of Australians. A Carbon Tax Julia Gillard said we would not have if she became PM. Not surprised people aren’t supporting her and her add campaign supporting Gillard. Say NO to Gillards Carbon Tax and NO to Carbon Cate!

    • persephone says:

      08:43am | 31/05/11

      The question of whether the majority of Australians support a carbon price or not is a bit moot.

      It’s clearly one of those situations where the answer you get depends on the question you ask.

      When people are asked if they support a carbon price which will compensate them for the price rises it causes, over 50% vote yes.

      If they’re asked about a carbon price which forces up prices (and no mention of compensation is made) then the numbers go down.

      So, the option on the table - a carbon price with compensation - would appear to be supported by the majority of Australians.

    • BL says:

      09:00am | 31/05/11

      “When people are asked if they support a carbon price which will compensate them for the price rises it causes, over 50% vote yes.”

      You keep on saying this in your comments persephone, which is fair enough, but as a supporter of this tax can you please explain to me what safeguards are in place to ensure people are compensated equally? Also what safeguards are in place so that in 5 years time with the carbon tax, the government doesnt do a backflip and refuses to compensate people?

      Also persephone, you still havent explained why a company would invest in green-friendly energy when they can just pass on this tax to the consumer? What stern rules are in place to stop this from occuring?

      These are the serious concerns the Australian population have and no union-funded labor propoganda piece will change that.

      Also persephone, you keep on claiming the majority of Australians support this carbon tax. Where are your statistics and evidence? Because let me tell you something, noone in my work supports it, no one in my family supports, and everyone I speak to feel betrayed and are sicked by the current state of Labor in Australia.

    • James4 says:

      09:28am | 31/05/11

      Perse- well lets take it to the people to decide instead of having hypotheticals. I saw a poll where they say that Australians are evenly split over whether to have another election, adding that there was no real support. What a laugh, we are how many months from the last election? and half of the population are ready to go back to the polls is not support?

    • David C says:

      09:51am | 31/05/11

      pphone the actual statistics are if you ask people do they support action on climate change consistently over time roughly 70% of people will say yes
      If you ask them are they prepared to pay 80$ a year to support this action about 80% say yes.
      If you ask them are you prepared to pay 800$ a year that number drops to around 30%
      I doubt the ALP will be able to convince people they can compensate folks for all the price rises, (they dont have a great track record executing policy) and thus they will continue to face opposition.
      The current policy being put forward by the ALP is based on the premise that if they get it through it will be very difficult to get rid of it .
      The jury is still out whether they will get it through. This is no longer about the science and all about policy

    • persephone says:

      01:56pm | 31/05/11

      BL

      why should people be compensated equally?

      We don’t tax them equally. We don’t give them access to public services equally.

      I can’t answer you on the question of how long compensation will be provided. (I would anticipate, however, that this is covered by the legislation).  For me personally - on a very low income - the compensation will be nice, but I’d support a carbon price without it.

      It doesn’t matter if companies don’t change, at least initially - they’re paying for the priviledge, and the price they’re paying for carbon will be used for other green initiatives.

      However, common sense and market forces say they will change.

      Firstly, all companies will know that the carbon price will be reviewed regularly. If emissions aren’t falling, or not falling fast enough, the carbon price will rise.

      So it makes sense for a business to try and cut its emissions to pay less tax.

      And it gives that business a competitive advantage if its competitors don’t do it, because they’ll be paying less for permits and thus can charge less for their products.

      So, to give you an example:

      There are two power companies, Company A & B.

      Company A decides to do nothing, and simply to pass the cost of its permits to the consumer.

      Company B decides to invest in green energy. At present, it can’t cut its prices below Company As; it sees it as a long term investment.

      The carbon price comes up for review. Company A is charged more, and passes on its prices to its consumers. Company B is charged less - because it’s emitting less - and passes on those savings to its consumers.

      Company B is now charging less for power than Company A.

      Who are you going to sign up with?

      And what do you think Company A’s shareholders are saying?

      As for an example of polling:

      http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/carbon-tax-winning-voters-but-conditions-attached/story-fn7x8me2-1226034308351

      The reason we rely on polls, BL, is that most of us move in fairly restricted circles. Strangely enough, we tend to hang around with people who think the same way we do about things. Thus, when we ask friends and family what they think about something, we can expect that most of them will have similar views.

      James

      and that polling’s been consistent since the election.

      I would have liked an election over going to war in Iraq. I didn’t get it.

      Our democracy doesn’t work like that. Get over it.

      David

      and if you tell them that prices will rise, but they’ll be compensated, over 60% of them say ‘yes’.

      Mouse

      er, people knew three years ago that NSW Labor was going to lose the election.

      And yes, all changes are scary. Coming out with a proposal to price carbon without giving much detail was always a risk.

    • luke says:

      02:35pm | 31/05/11

      persephone, your argument that the majority of people are willing to pay a carbon tax is baseless. If the Gillard government were honest which they are certainly not, they would take the carbon tax to an election. You can sugar coat your argument anyway you please but it won’t change the fact that a carbon tax in Australia will have no benefit to the earth because the whole world is not willing to act.

    • Bitten says:

      06:37am | 31/05/11

      Oh please stop the hand wringing. They’re free to voice their opinions. The tricky part is, so is everyone else in the country. Awkward, I know, but there it is. And apparently some people don’t particularly approve. This lack of approval is something that they are both absolutely entitled to feel and express. They have done so. It’s cynicism, not fascism. The system is working perfectly well, folks.

    • Joan says:

      07:59am | 31/05/11

      They aren’t voicing their opinions… Carbon Cate and Caton are parotting scripted lines,  with no facts, the Cate and Caton caper is just pure propaganda.

    • persephone says:

      08:53am | 31/05/11

      Joan

      if Cate is just doing a job, spouting lines she’s been paid to say, there’s even less reason to attack her personally.

    • MarK says:

      09:00am | 31/05/11

      Explain why you need to advertise to prove a settled scientific fact pers.

      Tell us what difference this tax at the south of $40 level will make to the climate?

      Go on.

      Show me my soot comments. Back up your rhetoric

    • Paulb says:

      09:20am | 31/05/11

      “if Cate is just doing a job, spouting lines she’s been paid to say, there’s even less reason to attack her personally.”

      Do you people operate from Gillard’s office?

    • Wind Bag Alert!! says:

      10:10am | 31/05/11

      @ persophone

      If we could harness all the energy from the hot air you generate our problems would be over.

    • MarK says:

      12:11pm | 31/05/11

      Waiting pers.

      You do have answers don’t you.

      After all you lectured at Uni and stuff.

    • nossy says:

      01:09pm | 31/05/11

      @MarK - hey MarKy have you got the “hots” for persephone - you chase her all over the blog hanging on every excellent word she says ? Are you jealous shes a uni Lecturer MarK ?

    • gytr says:

      06:48am | 31/05/11

      As I said in Penbo’s article, I think people take more heed of CEO’s and mining Magnates as they work for, or own companies that employ tens of thousands of people across the nation. If one of these says that a tax will cause them to shed jobs in order to remain globally competitive, it carries more weight than someone percieved as elitist and self serving.

      I think a lot of the population realise that if mining and mining related construction shed jobs, then the flow on effects of this will be far more dire for the economy than pissing some actor or ex prime minister off.

    • persephone says:

      08:57am | 31/05/11

      Well, given that a carbon price of some kind has been on the books in Australia for some time, and mining companies are still making long term investments here, then it can’t be much of a worry.

      And - despite silly claims to the contrary - they’re not going anywhere else sometime soon, anyway; you have to mine where the minerals are.

      The mining companies themselves, in annual reports and other updates, identify the high cost of the dollar as their main concern at present.

    • MarK says:

      09:41am | 31/05/11

      Why didn’t the miners cry foul when royalties were raised in WA pers?

      Is there a reason?

    • gytr says:

      09:59am | 31/05/11

      Very true there persephone, you should know that I have worked in mining (both exploration and production environments) and mining related construction now for a number of years.

      It’s quite a rapid transition between production and mothballing assets.

      An example though, for you to ponder, is the cost to market for the various base metals and coal. Imagine, in say, Tanzania, each ounce of gold costs $350.00 to get to market (from digging, through processing and transportation).

      In comparison, in Australia it can cost up to $500.00 per ounce currently.

      Add another input to cost to market, and suddenly it becomes less attractive to mine here, until either the market forces the price further up, or the additional cost is repealed. Suddenly, the mine becomes marginal, and other assets owned overseas, become less marginal.

      Current marginal assets which were due to come online in the coming years will be mothballed as well. Investment in the remainder of the financial year, plus next financial year will carry on, as expenses in plant and equipment can be written off for tax purposes. However the assett can still be mothballed.

      All mines with processing plants on site draw a great deal of power from our grids. Not to mention coal mine drag lines… And use a lot of diesel (many sites can use over 1,000,000 litres of diesel per month in their truck and digging fleets)

      What happens if the national and international mining companies move to more friendly countries. What do we do with our displaced workforce? What do the cities and towns who survive on the income spent by the workforce do if that cash flow evaporates?

    • Gregg says:

      06:52am | 31/05/11

      Who is being savage Malcom?
      Just review what you have reported
      ” “She should stop thinking that a handful of celebrities somehow represents the voice of the Australian people,” Abbott said of Gillard, without providing a source for this claim.

      He further said in Parliament: “This is a Prime Minister who is happy to listen to actors, but she won’t listen to voters.

      “She wants to say yes to celebrities, but she won’t say yes to the people of Australia by having an election on this topic.”

      Those anti-carbon tax people rallied by a Sydney radio station in Canberra few months ago - and criticised for their witch/bitch signs - would have been nodding vigorously.

      If Abbott was tough on Gillard, he was brutal towards Blanchett, who when he was finished twisting things sounded like a privileged airhead. 

      “I think it’s very important that the actors and celebrities of this country should have their say. They should have their say,” he told Parliament with massive sarcasm.

      “People who live in eco mansions have a right to be heard. They really do. People who are worth $53 million have a right to be heard, but their voice should not be heard ahead of the voice of the ordinary working people of Australia.

      “Their voice should not be heard ahead of the forgotten families of Australia.”

      There was no evidence from Abbott that Blanchett’s opinions were queue jumping. “

      Gillard will no doubt be in favour of the Ad, whether Labor had anything to do with it, just as she welcomed flapper Flannery’s report and will welcome the Hewson hordes signing up, so Abbott has not said anything about Gillard that would not be true.
      On Blanchett, he is not saying she is queue jumping but merely that all Australians have a right to be heard, the majority of us not likely to be featuring in any Ads anytime soon.
      If you want savagery, how about the viscous attacks on Abbott that Gillard makes, merely because the question is asked of why she will not put the policy to the Australian people via an election.

      We all know the answer to that, and yes, she would be rightly savaged, very viscously in all probability.

    • Charles says:

      07:51am | 31/05/11

      Caton and Blanchette have every right to voice their opinion, but when they make statements like Caton did, chanelling Christiner Milne about how they are only going to tax the Big Polluters, every one then knew at that moment that these people are ill-informed idiots.

      It is the one statement that really gets up people noses when the government pretends that Big business won’t pass this tax onto consumers.  If there was ever a delusion that can’t be bought then this is it.

      So, if they came out and made an ad that had some sense in it, people wouldn’t be so offended, but they treat the punters like morons and then get huffy when they respond critically.  Just ensures that everyone thinks actors are airheads for a real reason.

    • persephone says:

      08:47am | 31/05/11

      No one pretends that Big Business won’t pass on the costs of a carbon price to consumers - that’s why the package includes compensation.

    • MarK says:

      09:03am | 31/05/11

      How long will the compensation last.

      What is the point of compensation when the precis for the tax is to change behaviour.

      Back up your rhetoric with fact not repeated pointless slogans. What level does the tax need to be at to change behavoiur. Will compensation always be part of it. Does not compensation merely make it wealth redistribution by your very admsiion.

      back up with facts.

    • Tim says:

      09:35am | 31/05/11

      MarK is spot on.
      If the whole idea of the tax is to change people’s behaviour then everyone must pay it.
      Otherwise it is simply wealth redistribution in disguise.
      Step up to the “Greatest Moral Challenge”, if it’s so important then follow through with something that might actually get people to change the status quo.

    • Shelldrake says:

      09:36am | 31/05/11

      Govt taxes big polluters to save the world
      Big polluters pass on tax to everyone
      some people get “compensated” for increased costs because of tax
      Big polluters keep polluting and passing on tax
      Govt increases tax to big polluters to “further” reduce pollution
      big polluters handball on to consumers increases proportionately
      compensation increases ???
      repeat above process over ... and over ... and over
      world is somehow eventually “saved”
      but Australia is a basket case with an economy built around eco tours, basket weaving, hemp clothing and candle exports
      Oh yeah—sure fire winner this one—the world will undoubtedly be a better place

    • Geoff - Brisbane says:

      10:30am | 31/05/11

      Then whats the point persephone? Who exactly will pay the tax? What will it do?

      Business will pump out the same Co2, jack up their prices, pay the tax which the government gives back to consumers to offset the price rises.

      The only Australian company to benefit from this tax is Australia Post since due to insanely high prices, Australians will buy everything from overseas using the internet.

      This is a rubbish policy based on ‘facts’ from failure politian, liar and hypocrite, Al Gore.

    • LeftRightOut says:

      07:51am | 31/05/11

      What a rambling article from Mal… Mal, being a warming alarmist, appears very rattled by the complete and utter flop that was the GetUp! and Union funded (ie: ALP front groups) advertisement.

      Mal, people HATE this tax - they hate Julia Gillard, and they despise the lying pack of Labor luvvies that are always rushing to their defence. I’d class Malcolm Farr in the Labor luvvie camp, given that 90% of what he writes, is aimed at criticising the coalition. There’s plenty of low hanging fruit if you look at the actual government, yet nothing but the most superficial swipe is ever taken.

      Farr, this latest piece, really shows how screwed you and your ALP mates are… good riddance!

    • sludger says:

      08:18am | 31/05/11

      I resent anybody telling me that this ill-thought out and yet to be disclosed plan is good for me.  We have no details, all we know is that it is going to cost us.  Plus as a person without children, I am not going to be one of the “working families” compensated.  In other words, either way it comes out, I am going to be screwed.  And for what?  No details how this is going to help anyone.  So, to add insult to injury, a couple of very well paid script readers come out and - well - read scripts.  How insulting was that?  The funny thing was seeing Cate get all in a Tizz when people voiced their opinion.  It does work both ways.  And Malcolm, what a pathetic peice of writing that was.  Of course Cate et al have a right to their opinion.  We are still a free country (of sorts).  The thing is, the majority of people in this country are not happy and they are entitled to their opinion also.  Not just on the tax, but on those ill-informed blow ins who who try to lecture them.

    • Rose says:

      08:18am | 31/05/11

      Mal,

      I wouldnt say Cate & Caton were having their “opinions”.

      I’d say they were starring in a Union-funded Labor propoganda commercial.

      And that’s all it is - PROPOGANDA… much like the anti-mining-tax adverts.

    • Jay Santos says:

      08:19am | 31/05/11

      “...Clearly, role models are not what they used to be. Once, successful people were listened to because they obviously had useful insights, and not necessarily restricted to their fields of employment…”

      Bullcrap.

      The tall poppy syndrome has been endemic in Australian society since the Dreamtime.

      Farr claims that the rich are right to have and express an opinion.

      Fair enough.

      I also have a right and a responsibility to call BS on it and expose Cate Blanchett and her ilk for the environmental hypocrites they are.

      For them to sook because no-one believes their ‘sincerity’ (or cares what they think) smacks of disingenuousness.

      Isn’t that how “free speech” works Malcolm?

    • nossy says:

      08:34am | 31/05/11

      “An ex Radio announcer who has fallen on hard times” the sign that chap in your article photo is holding says Malcolm ? Is that the Laser expert Alan Jones - my goodness if it is how hes aged !  hahahahh

    • The Badger says:

      09:16am | 31/05/11

      good work nossy

    • tanya says:

      08:50am | 31/05/11

      wow a right wing rant fest!

    • Cry in my Gin says:

      08:56am | 31/05/11

      Poor old Green/labour party. Every attempt they make at trying to convince us that it is all for our own good, the more people start to actually question and actually EXPECT answers. How dare we do that. We have a very good looking, successful, talented and wealthy person TELL us that it is for our own good, and we still question? What is wrong with us? Why won’t we just accept what our betters tell us?

      I’ll think about this when I ask the boss at my weekend job for more hours to pay for my famillies right to have no say i this debate.

    • Harquebus says:

      08:57am | 31/05/11

      I don’t mind actors having their say but, when did I get mine?

    • Lostie says:

      09:02am | 31/05/11

      ““She wants to say yes to celebrities, but she won’t say yes to the people of Australia by having an election on this topic.””

      This line, right here, is everything that is wrong with politics. This blatant lie by the leader of a major political party is paraded out as Gospel… If only it were given as much credence as the Gospel.

      The suggestion that any election for a term of government can be considered a “one issue” election is myopic in the extreme. It is negligent and dangerous to suggest as much - especially given that such a n election” does not bind a Government to that issue (as both parties have demonstrated in recent years).

      If Abbott sincerely believed that this is something that people should vote OT, it would be but the work of a moment to propose a referendum on the issue. Legislation could be enacted to hold a vote on a proposed Carbon trading scheme aside from an election for members of Parliament, and the scheme could live or die by the outcome of that election.

      Surely, if that’s What Mr Abbott believes, that the issue should be decided by the electorate, that would be the best way of assuring that there was no noise (immigration policy, defence policy or other taxation) to distract the electorate from the issue at hand.

      Lets see some honesty in politics. It would be an interesting change. (along with admission of lies and mistakes made by members) - standing in parliament and admitting that they were wrong, or “may have mislead” parliament in a material particular.

      But alas, it will not happen, no politician has any interest in running such a campaign - if they had to justify their position with facts and figures from peer reviewed articles and scientific inquiry the whole system would collapse.

    • Joel B1 says:

      09:08am | 31/05/11

      Farr,

      (nothing to say that will get past the censors)

    • Rosalind says:

      09:22am | 31/05/11

      Its alright though for the Libs to have that nutter Alan Jones spruiking for them on a daily basis, not to mention the mega rich Rheinhardt, Palmer and Forrest paying for their anti environmental advertising propaganda. Get a grip you right wingers and see the woods for the trees (no pun intended).

    • Snake says:

      11:48am | 31/05/11

      So you’re saying that this is the same as rich businessmen in Australia donating to the Liberal party?

      You do realise these wealthy individuals made it big IN Australia. They have significant knowledge of operations within the country. They each hold serious power over a large group of employees and are therefore in a position to comment on the impact of said tax. The same cannot be said for a few minor celebrity muppets that the ALP has conjured up.

      This is like Shane Crawford selling furniture. WTF would he know about a good couch or a lounge chair? Similarly, what does Cate Blanchett know about the environment? Caton too, tell him he’s dreamin’. Keep in mind, these 2 are both PAID to pretend and perform for a living. No different in these ads.

      Julia’s gotta go.

    • Steve says:

      09:33am | 31/05/11

      Mal is just displaying the insider/outsider split on the carbon tax and other polices - notably refugees. 

      The carbon tax is a ‘should have’ issue but it won’t really affect him, or any member of the Press Gallery or Cate or Michael becasue of their salary and job security.  International good citizenship is important to ‘insiders’ because they travel.

      If you are on the ‘inside’ you are generally a well paid and well connected knowledge worker, with high consumption of quality media (ABC/ SMH/The Australian), and certainly not in a trade exposed industry.

      No risk of losing your job because of a high dollar, or your salary being undercut by a immigrant, or the carbon tax ruining your industry.  Mortgage is under control. Government is a big part of your life, either through a salary, grant funding or their policies directly affecting your industry.  BTW I am an ‘insider’

      ‘Outsiders’ are the rest of Australia. Far more focused on local and Australian issues, nervous about their and Australia’s economic future.

      Abbott is being successful because he is talking with the outsiders, and not talking to them through the media’s ‘insiders’.

    • Say no to Labor says:

      09:36am | 31/05/11

      You are so out of touch Farr it beggars belief.

      Half of Australia supports the other half as it is either on welfare or the bloated public service. Then at the end of a week many of us are left with 200 bucks to keep a house and family going.

      Meanwhile these chardy socialists tell us to shut up don’t debate the science and suck up the tax that we didn’t vote for to fix a problem that does not exist.

      Well you and they can all go and get ______.

    • Stunned says:

      09:38am | 31/05/11

      ha.. love this line:
      “Some below-the-belt moves were involved, as the actress might say to the Abbott.”
      Touche.

      To the argument, lets see how the liberal party shouts down the disengaged, out of touch voice of the affluent on behalf of the poor..
      About a year ago Gina Rienhardt and Andrew Forrest - two of the richest people in the country and worth a combined 200x Cate Blanchett’s highest net wealth estimate - staged a bells and whistles scream-fest on behalf of downtrodden mining billionaires everywhere.
      How did the friends of the poor and voiceless respond?
      They were there!
      Julie Bishop and Wilson Tuckey, along with a few WA state liberals including the state party president, bravely stepped forward to remind these out of touch, unelected, butting-in-to-politics, self promoters that their comments were unwelcomed and counter to good governance.
      Didn’t they? Surely they must have. Surely they wouldn’t be so abjectly bereft of credibility that they’d support the voice of money “ahead of the forgotten families” 12 months ago? Couldn’t be. They obviously held forth bravely on the day, and never once allowed their presence to be used as their party’s tacit approval of the noisy rich… otherwise the only thing you’d be able to say about their comments in the present example is “sit down and STFU, you double-faced lying hypocrites”.

    • Samuel says:

      10:08am | 31/05/11

      Reinhardt and Forrest are employers of thousands of people. Big difference.

    • Shelldrake says:

      10:32am | 31/05/11

      the mining rich also happen to employ more than a few “forgotten families”—and they(the bosses), their companys and employees ALL pay taxes in this country—the anti mining tax ad campaign was good enough for Rudd and Julia to shit themselves and call a truce—the Libs opposed that tax as they do this one—as if opposing ANY tax—especially ill conceived mind numbingly stupifying ones like these proposed by Julia and her gang of 40 theives is a bad thing ??—perceived hypocrisy or not—the Libs may as well take up the cause of the “forgotten families”—Labor have dumped them for their new fuzzy Green friends—there are your lying two faced hypocrites

    • Stunned says:

      10:48am | 31/05/11

      Yes. On one hand you have the liberals actively supporting the voice of the rich who agree with them… and on the other hand you have the liberals actively supporting the voice of the rich who agree with them and saying the rich who disagree have no right to comment - based on their richness.
      Huge, massive, immense, vast, blinding, difference. Why didn’t I see it before..?

    • Caring Individual says:

      09:56am | 31/05/11

      When did Australia become filled with bile-spewing Haters?
      It looks to me that you’re not allowed to have an opinion on this blog unless it agrees with Hater-In-Chief, Tony Abbott. If you do you get verbally vomited on. I can only hope that that nasty little man and his acolytes never get to govern this country because we will all be diminished by it as he turns us into even more hateful beings than it seems we already are, if these opinions are anything to go by. Not to mention the fact that they don’t even know what they are talking about wrt a Price on Carbon which probably won’t even affect most of them because they will be over-compensated for it.
        What petty, small-minded individuals you Coalition supporters are. You don’t even care what sort of place will be left to future generations and how best to do something about it in a globally-coordinated way. Instead you hate on Malcolm Farr and you hate on the federal government. Pathetic.

    • Jules says:

      10:30am | 31/05/11

      Record carbon emissions this last year.  Yet empirical evidence again shows the globe cooling as it has been doing all decade.

      Record emissions this last year. Yet our leader claims the worlds big polluters are leading us in cutting emissions!

      The facts just do not stack up. The AGW model is in tatters. Carbon is a result of temp not the other way round!

      The science is bogus. The facts do not bear out the model.
      The tax is a waste of time on every possible level.

      Glad that Aussies have a BS detector and can smell the stench of corruption a mile off.

      I pity you that has been brainwashed by socialist teachers and Al Gores fantasy movie.  The world will not end,  your kids will survive.  Pull yourself together and do your own research. Don’t buy into the groupthink.

      I was once like you but the truth and evidence has set me free.

      As others are saying ‘don’t drink the Kool-aid’. Try and look past what zombies like blanchett are pressuring you to believe and see the reality.

      It is just your ignorance that is making you anxious. Get through the denial stage and it gets easier.

    • Sheedy's Left Foot says:

      09:59am | 31/05/11

      Can someone explain the tax please? Simply, with finger puppets if it will help because…
      1. I will be taxed, but will be compensated for being taxed. Can’t we cut out the middle man and just not tax me? Or just tax me less.
      2. Business will be taxed, but will be compensated for being taxed. Can’t we just cut out the middle man and just not tax business? Or just tax me less?
      3. When all the tax has been counted and all the tax handed back, how much will be left for making the world shiny and new and what will it be used for?
      4. What exactly is a polluting industry? Will a business that produced solar panels be taxed more than a business the installs them, but less than a business that digs up the minerals to produce them?
      5. Exactly what will be a green industry in the green economy?
      6. What level of employment is predicted in the new green economy?
      7. We are all pretty much riding the coat tail of the resource6s boom, aren’t we cutting our noses off to spite our faces?
      8. Will a carbon tax interfere with the footy season?
      9. is beer a carbonated drink…and if so it that polluting?
      10. Green fuels like biofuel, use resources that could be producing food. Is it more important to feed people or make a meaningless contribution to emissions control?

      I am not attempting to be left/right/fascist/communist, I, like could be producing many people am sick to death of the endless spin and want to know exactly what a carbon tax means.

      It is all very well for celebrities to pull a lever on an ad and hey presto the world changes and whilst TV has never lied to me yet, it can’t be that easy can it?

    • Kernahan's Right Boot says:

      12:01pm | 31/05/11

      1. No *you* wont be taxed. The effect of a carbon price will flow on to direct energy use (electricity, fuel etc) and ‘embedded costs’ in the energy used by businesses to produce stuff you buy. Some stuff will directly increase in price, others will be cheaper, others will be marginal, the direct impact cant be judged yet.
      2. Business will either pay a price for carbon or get a credit for producing/using carbon-reducing technology.
      3. The ‘tax’ isn’t a tax, its a price. The government will administer the price until a market is in place, and then carbon can be bought and sold and traded as with shares etc. The reason people keep saying “tax” is one of 2 options - 1 its an easy (perhaps lazy) concept, and 2 it helps those who are using it as a platform piece to say “we will stop the carbon tax”. It isn’t a tax. If you want an analogy, think of ‘carbon’ as a new government monopoly a’la telstra.. until 2014 you have to pay the govt (telstra), after 2014 you can use optus…
      4. ‘Polluting industry’ doesn’t factor in to it. A business will either be a net emitter of carbon, and therefore have to buy more carbon units, neutral and change nothing, or a net producer of carbon credits and be able to sell to businesses that need to buy them.
      5. Development of hydrogen as a combustion fuel for cars, perhaps? (Already happening in California, Japan and Israel, Honda FCX Clarity is most recognisable hydrogen combustion vehicle) A hot-rock solar plant?
      6. About the same as now. We’re almost 100% capacity job-wise. Not much growth left. Carbon will not cause a contraction.
      7. No. The big companies are already structured for the carbon market. RIO-Tinto and BHP-Billiton for example are major players in Europe, the EU have had a carbon market since 2006.
      8. Yes.
      9. Only if its XXXX or Tooheys.
      10. The best fuel, good enough to run our sun since before we were here and many years after we’re gone, is hydrogen. No-one is advocating bio-ethanol any more. And those hot-rock solar things whose name I forget are pretty schmick as well.

    • David C says:

      12:44pm | 31/05/11

      are credits being issued in the first form of the scheme?

    • Karna's shoelace says:

      01:40pm | 31/05/11

      @Dave -

      No idea. It might be because the govt is introducing the ‘price’ before they introduce the ability to trade - maybe they aren’t giving credits until the trading function is in place (cos whats the point? They wont appreciate in value.. and giving someone 3 yrs worth of accumulated credits to flood the market with when it opens will drive the price down when it starts), and thats why we keep hearing about compensation and offsets.

    • Joel B1 says:

      10:08am | 31/05/11

      Farr,

      You’re a nasty piece of work.

      “Some below-the-belt moves were involved, as the actress might say to the Abbott.”

      So where’s a joke about Gillard?

      Here’s one “Let’s check below-the-belt to see if she’s a real redhead as the sycophant said to the deniers”

      Not very good, but neither is your story.

    • Vince says:

      10:44am | 31/05/11

      You know what?  It’s a beautiful day.  The sun is shining.  The air is fresh.  Life is good.  Why don’t you turn off the computer and go outside a bit?  Cool yourself down a bit and come back when you’re ready to play nicely.

    • Joel B1 says:

      12:07pm | 31/05/11

      @Vince,

      Here’s a thought, why don’t you let the moderators do their job and you comment on the story?

      Unless of course you think you know better?

      PS “play nicely” we’re not in kindergarten now mate.

    • MarK says:

      10:09am | 31/05/11

      hmm my comment was published and now has disappeared…interesting.

      Well vaguely

    • MarK says:

      10:29am | 31/05/11

      Just checked the bank balance and stuff.

      I am not rich like Cate.

      It appears you can only speak freely if you have starpower or an Oscar.

      So we can assume while it is a bit rich to gag the wealthy it is OK to gag the “ordinary”.

      How quintessentially elitist and so progressive.

      Love it.

      Frauds.

    • Joel B1 says:

      10:38am | 31/05/11

      @MarK,

      The old publish it, then cut it trick!

    • MarK says:

      10:57am | 31/05/11

      The best bit is Joel is I actually have it printed out in black and white by accident.

      I will PDF it and email it through asking for an explanation.

      What a laugh.

      And no email as to why it was cut.

      I love censorship. So progressive.

    • Fat Albert says:

      12:23pm | 31/05/11

      Oh my god, a comment written by MarK has not been published????  What the heck is this world coming to?  Don’t you guys know that it’s ... MarK.  The revered?  The sacred?  The all-knowing?  Thank god he had the good sense to print out his comment so it’s not lost to humanity forever.  So close to near disaster - i’m honestly shaking with the emotion of it all.  To think we almost didn’t get to hear what MarK thought about climate change, or Labor, or Gillard.  The frauds!!!!  How dare they!!!

    • MarK says:

      01:18pm | 31/05/11

      I agree Fat Albert.

      Thank you for your support in this fight against censorship.

      I feel very strongly about it as do you. Shake with rage then go punch someone on the face son.

      You know it makes sense.

    • Anon says:

      01:22pm | 31/05/11

      @ Fat Albert

      Probably just responding to the Punchsurvey.

    • Simon says:

      10:31am | 31/05/11

      Either you’re being disingenuous or incredibly obtuse.  I’d guess the latter.  No one is saying she doesn’t have the “right to an opinion” - of course she does. And we have the right to our opinion about her.  She has the carbon footprint of a small country -  her individual carbon footprint is probably more than the entire output of my state of Tasmania - yet she wants the government to take money out of my $40K per annum to reduce carbon pollution.

      The carbon tax is of couse the equivalent of a poll tax.  It dispropotionately impacts those less well off.  It has to hurt otherwise it won’t have any effect on carbon ommissions. How much do you think Cate will be hurt by it do you reckon?

      The breathtaking gall of it is beyond belief.

    • Dave-o says:

      12:50pm | 31/05/11

      ROFL.

      Either your being disingenuous or incredibly obtuse if you think all the actors in the advertisement combined have the same carbon footprint as the state of Tasmania.

    • A Female says:

      10:39am | 31/05/11

      Joel B1,
                No, it is you that is the ‘nasty piece of work’. I wonder if you speak to the women who are in your family or friends the way you spoke about the Prime Minister of this country just then? Probably, because you are obviously a small-minded little chauvinistic pig. And not very funny either.

    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      11:01am | 31/05/11

      I think Cate Blanchett deserves her promotion to Minister for Propaganda.

    • Dazza says:

      11:35am | 31/05/11

      Leni Riefenstahl would be extremely proud of her!!

    • Leigh says:

      11:12am | 31/05/11

      Ms. Blanchett is well known and has more ‘punch’ than a mere Joe Blow in society, Malcolm. She certainly is privileged in that respect. If the perpertrators of the pro-carbon dioxide tax message didn ‘t think this, they would have used someone nobody had ever heard of - one of our ordinary peers - to get the message across. Remember, please, that we also hear - at our expense - ONLY the alarmist opinions from the likes of Tim Flannery in the media and other public figures who think we should be taxed, never the anti side. It is not only Ms. Blancett who is ‘privileged’ on this subject: it is the who gang who run the man-mad cause of climate message.

    • Ian-33 says:

      11:42am | 31/05/11

      Hypocricy is indeed a marvellous and wonderful thing to behold. Just a few weeks ago there was much outrage when the government attempted to draw lines in the budgetary sand on middle class welfare. Attacking those poor and deprived ‘forgotten families’ (*vomit*) struggling as only the top 15% of taxpayers do on $150K per annum.  “Class Warfare” the Coalition cried with mock outrage! How dare the ALP invoke the politics of envy wrote the columnists sternly. Oh but of course, cognitive dissonance and hegelian dialectic are the nutrients of the Tony Abbott lead opposition. Such changes are ‘punishing success’ or denying aspiration. And when Gina, Twiggy & co were attacked (along similar lines to Cate B) for their anti-mining campaign last year? TOTALLY different of course. Wise business people, the so-called ‘wealth generators” shriek at an ALP tax. (“Shhh, don’t worry about about Colin Barnett’s proposed increase Gina,” says Twiggy. “Of course not Andrew, the Coalition’s proposed royalty increases are TOTALLY different,” laughs Gina!) *Sigh* I guess this lowest common denominator, marginal seat mentality, ignorant hypocritical discourse is where Australia is right now. (See Jackie Kelly on Q&A last night for further proof.) And the illiterates will post their foam and venom, uninformed and uncircumspect. I’m so despondant. Maybe we should just give in to their ultimate unconscious desires and abolish elections entirely. Ban ALP/Greens/Independants etc. Purge them all and send them to the gulag! Life would be so much better if the Liberal-National Coalition (aka The Born-To-Ruling Party) reigned Oz in perpetuity. They never, ever lie, or mismanage or f**k up, do they? Meanwhile Labor do all of the above AND sacrifice newborn babies and dance with the devil! Because the simple summation of most posts is Labor=Bad whilst Coalition=Good isn’t it? Why don’t you hateful a-holes just save yourselves from potential RSI by typing something like that. At least this explains why Big Ears is ahead in the polls so much. Most Australians just aren’t very smart, have short memories and don’t reflect on their own values. Depressing indeed…:)

    • Ian-33 says:

      11:43am | 31/05/11

      Hypocricy is indeed a marvellous and wonderful thing to behold. Just a few weeks ago there was much outrage when the government attempted to draw lines in the budgetary sand on middle class welfare. Attacking those poor and deprived ‘forgotten families’ (*vomit*) struggling as only the top 15% of taxpayers do on $150K per annum.  “Class Warfare” the Coalition cried with mock outrage! How dare the ALP invoke the politics of envy wrote the columnists sternly. Oh but of course, cognitive dissonance and hegelian dialectic are the nutrients of the Tony Abbott lead opposition. Such changes are ‘punishing success’ or denying aspiration. And when Gina, Twiggy & co were attacked (along similar lines to Cate B) for their anti-mining campaign last year? TOTALLY different of course. Wise business people, the so-called ‘wealth generators” shriek at an ALP tax. (“Shhh, don’t worry about about Colin Barnett’s proposed increase Gina,” says Twiggy. “Of course not Andrew, the Coalition’s proposed royalty increases are TOTALLY different,” laughs Gina!) *Sigh* I guess this lowest common denominator, marginal seat mentality, ignorant hypocritical discourse is where Australia is right now. (See Jackie Kelly on Q&A last night for further proof.) And the illiterates will post their foam and venom, uninformed and uncircumspect. I’m so despondant. Maybe we should just give in to their ultimate unconscious desires and abolish elections entirely. Ban ALP/Greens/Independants etc. Purge them all and send them to the gulag! Life would be so much better if the Liberal-National Coalition (aka The Born-To-Ruling Party) reigned Oz in perpetuity. They never, ever lie, or mismanage or f**k up, do they? Meanwhile Labor do all of the above AND sacrifice newborn babies and dance with the devil! Because the simple summation of most posts is Labor=Bad whilst Coalition=Good isn’t it? Why don’t you hateful a-holes just save yourselves from potential RSI by typing something like that. At least this explains why Big Ears is ahead in the polls so much. Most Australians just aren’t very smart, have short memories and don’t reflect on their own values. Depressing indeed…:)

    • Kika says:

      12:02pm | 31/05/11

      This whole affair just highlights why I can’t wait to emigrate… So just because your famous and successful you can’t voice an opinion? Yes, she would have more of an impact than having just a regular every day run of the mill person on the TV saying the same thing. But if the cards were the other way around, and Cate & Michael were on the side of the anti-carbon tax people I am CERTAIN that those opposed to them having their say wouldn’t be so quick to condemn them.  Andrew Bolt & Ray Hadley or whatever wouldn’t be knocking her for having a say, but saying “there ya go. Even they don’t agree with it”.

      Hypocrites. This whole country is full of hypocrites and politics here is just getting dirtier and dirtier. Baby Boomers - they are the nay sayers. Can’t get out of their post war heads that resources aren’t infinite and everybody makes an impact on the environment.

    • Jim says:

      12:38pm | 31/05/11

      I’m probably one of the majority here Kika in that I took no offence at all to using Carbon Cate and Caton as props for the spin-cycle. I mean, an old guy who seems remarkably well preserved and unchanged since his Sullivan days in the 70’s, and a rather unsexy elf queen really can say what they want (or what they are paid to say…)

      I, like many others though, took great offence at John Connors statement about having a right to speak out, when the Australian public are being denied that right via an election on the matter.

      But you run along and stick your head in the sand and think what you like if it helps you sleep.

    • Susan Q says:

      12:56pm | 31/05/11

      Maybe if Blanchett paid Australian income tax we might respect her some more?  Maybe if she didn’t fly everywhere in first class?  Maybe if her carbon footprint was not the same size of a standard western Sydney block?

      Hope you have a nice flight to your new country.  Hope you offset the carbon of that trip and save the planet for my kids.

    • Kika says:

      01:26pm | 31/05/11

      Yeah I will enjoy my plane trip out. And John I certainly don’t have my head in the sand, hence why I am leaving. I am going to a country that has introduced carbon pricing. But the current state of Australia makes me sick… like really sick. And I was born, bred here and have lived here my whole life. It’s just the current state of affairs and attitudes towards things is just shameful.

    • grumpy says:

      01:58pm | 31/05/11

      Well, that will raise the IQ of the country!
      enjoy your flight, and when you decide we are all pretty good here, and want to return, don’t forget to make your apology public!
      Given that anyone who expresses a view contrary to the supporters of a carbon tax are automatically called “climate change deniers”, I think you may be a little hypocritical yourself?
      Your rant against Baby Boomers is both irrational and judgmental, and you do know that baby boomers exist everywhere don’t you?

    • Steve says:

      03:43pm | 31/05/11

      Come on kika. You are going away anyway and have taken the opportunity to claim you are leaving because we don’t have a carbon tax.  Nobody leaves a country because it doesn’t have a carbon tax. If you felt that strongly about it you would stay and fight the good fight for your cause.

      By the way where are you going?

    • RyaN says:

      04:40pm | 31/05/11

      @Kika: don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

    • Joel B1 says:

      12:34pm | 31/05/11

      Farr,

      Who’s actually said “we should gag the wealthy?” Aside from your own good self?

      If you care to read the comments the consensus is, “if it’s OK for Cate to have an opinion, then it’s OK for us to have an opinion about the validity of her opinion and indeed be permitted a differing opinion.”

      Except we’re not allowed to have a different opinion, which is why that stupid slogan “Just say Yes” is pissing so many people off so very badly.

      Furthermore, not only aren’t we allowed our own opinions but we don’t even get to consider, let alone vote for, what is surely a fairly large and Australia changing piece of legislation.

      And even bloody worse, Gillard said she wasn’t going to do it. (I’ll explain later why she could be in a next-poll winning situation if she had kept her promise)

      Defend that.

    • Jim says:

      12:45pm | 31/05/11

      Dear Mal…I think I understand now. I understand why you, and others like you such as David Spears and Mark Riley are so sickeningly biased towards the red headed numpty!

      Penbo touched on it yesterday….Howard didn’t give the Canberra press gallery much in 11 years…KRudd would give an interview to a red light camera if his hair was OK…you poor petals were left in the cold. So you pander to Gillard, suck up to her, and you get your scoops!

      Penbo also claimed journalistic integrity and impartiality were as strong as ever, but I have my doubts about that one.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      12:53pm | 31/05/11

      Sounds good to me. A complete ban on all forms of media advertising for individuals and corporations making over $100,000. Can’t wait for the serenity….

    • grumpy old man says:

      01:23pm | 31/05/11

      Mal, no one is saying that the rich and famous are not entitled to an opinion, not that they should be restricted from stating their opinion. BUT, just as I open myself up to criticism if I choose to publicly express my views, then so has Cate et al in this advert. The rich and famous do not have a monopoly on good opinion, and if they choose to use their fame as a vehicle for espousing certain opinions, then they should expect some feedback from other, less wealthy and not so famous folks, who are using their right to express their own opinion through this site and others. Thats the way freedom of expression works!

    • Jim says:

      02:32pm | 31/05/11

      Mal would have a completely different view if said celebrities were hired by the LNP to push something…we all know that grumpy.

    • bikinis on top says:

      02:50pm | 31/05/11

      Who are the Rich? Myths, fantasies, Liberal Voters or real human beings?
      Are the rich dark green or light green? Or just blue?

    • Col. of Blackburn says:

      03:23pm | 31/05/11

      While the debate may have focused on ‘Our Cate’, what about Michael Caton? He proved he can ‘talk the talk’, but does he ‘walk the walk’? What has he done in his personal life to lower his Carbon (Dioxide) Footprint?

    • Stanley G says:

      04:21pm | 31/05/11

      Cate Blanchett is entitled to express her view on any subject she likes , and her view is as valid as anyone elses,no more or no less.But it is extremely naive of her if she didnt expect some backlash because her wealth IS a factor on this issue. If she did an ad for a new brand of watch we could make up our own mind whether or not we wanted to buy said watch.But the tax she is endorsing will make life financially very difficult for many people, but not her because she can afford it,and if we believe there are better ways to look after the environment( believe it or not some people who are oppposed to this tax do actually care about mother earth)-tough titties, you’‘ve got no say in it(unless you want to say yes).

    • RyaN says:

      04:24pm | 31/05/11

      Carbon Cate clearly cares less about the average Australian, let them eat cake indeed Cate, its not like you have ever had to struggle in your life.
      What a pathetic excuse for a human being, lower than snake shit who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire. Thanks for nothing Carbon Cate, I suppose you can’t wait to see us all losing our homes and jobs. Disgusting!!!

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      04:35pm | 31/05/11

      My god, what a snarky bunch of brainless snakes.  Laming and Abbott are disgusting, why pick on Cate and why did the Murdoch rags start ranting before they ever saw the ads?

      And how come fat shrews who inherited a mine can whine about not paying tax on stuff other people dig up for her?

      And how come Abbott can take money from and then try to defend multi-billion dollar tobacco companies?

      The double standards are appalling.

      Sort of like the reaction to caning cows versus the reaction to selling and caning human beings.

    • Dan says:

      07:46pm | 31/05/11

      Marilyn,

      Usually, I think your posts are off the wall, but this time you’ve nailed it in a few short sentences. You have got to nub of the matter so let’s now wait for the right-wing loonies to fire up (shouldn’t have to wait long).

    • Cate P says:

      10:32pm | 31/05/11

      Andrew Laming’s response nails it.  Good on you Punch for publishing it with M Farr’s piece.

 

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