So rugby league star Israel Folau has been lured to play a code he’s never played for a team that doesn’t exist yet who’ll play out of a stadium that hasn’t been built yet. Cue all the so-called experts, most of whom follow either rugby league or AFL, but not both codes, to argue why Folau’s switch to team Greater Western Sydney will or won’t work.

Well, he can certainly fly. Picture: Nine

Face it, guys. Neither you nor I can say whether Folau’s exceptional leaping skills will work in a pack mark situation. Israel tips the scales at 103 kilos, the same as Barry Hall and Jonathan Brown, but we’re kidding if we think we know whether he’ll cut it as a power forward.

As to whether Folau will be able to master that ungainly AFL skill known as handballing, well, not even Nostradamus would dare take a stab at that one. But there is one guy who’s got a fair idea of what lies ahead for Folau. His name’s Mike Pyke, and he’s the Sydney Swans ruckman who used to play rugby union for Canada.

He’s quite an athlete, as this runaway try against the All Blacks shows.

Pyke is unique among the AFL’s 720 active players. Brisbane Lions defender Daniel Merrett played rugby league at schoolboy level, but only Pyke has played one of the two rugby codes at the elite senior level.

When I first interviewed him in 2009, he told me the weirdest thing about switching to the AFL was singing the team song after a win. “Really, really strange,” he said. “I haven’t done that in any other sport I’ve played. I usually only sing after a few beers.”

I called Pyke again today, and asked him to name six things that Israel Folau will find tricky about making the transition to AFL. Here’s his list:

Handballs: I’m probably still working on them to be honest. It’s definitely an acquired skill. They key is a lot of repetition. I was a bit baffled how slowly I was coming along at first, especially when you see the Irish guys who adapt quickly having done something similar in Gaelic Football.

It takes a while to work out exactly where you’re hitting the ball. Israel will need to develop a callous or bone spur on his index finger.

Fitness: There is nowhere to hide in the AFL. When I first arrived from Canadian rugby, I was reasonably fit and ran a decent 3km time. I had six months before my first season and I said to the club’s fitness staff, “do what you want with me”.

Not in my wildest dreams did I imagine I would run so much. I must have run the equivalent of a lap of Australia. But I needed the training because you run so much more in the AFL. You’re on the field for 120 minutes, which is 50 per cent longer than a normal rugby game and you probably run 100 per cent more.

Marking: In the rugby codes, you are generally running with the flight of the ball, not against it. It’s very different running at the ball with your hands out in front of you, as we do in AFL.

Also in rugby generally you’re marking on your chest whereas in AFL you’re catching it in your hands all the time. Israel is obviously strong in this facet of the game, so given time, I’m sure it can be one of his strengths.

Being hit from different angles: AFL is a game of 360 degrees, and sometimes you think you have space but you don’t have any space at all. If he has good teammates and good communications on field, this shouldn’t be a problem.

Kicking: If I was Israel, I would be practising kicking for at least an hour a day for six or seven days a week. That doesn’t mean he should be trying to kick it 50 yards all the time. He should just be walking through the house kicking the ball to himself, getting a feel for the ball as much as possible.

The shorter kicks can be the most difficult in AFL, especially when running at speed.

The culture: For me personally, running in tank tops and running tights was a huge shock. No man would do that in Canada, it just wouldn’t happen. I don’t know if they do that in rugby league, but if they don’t, it’s something he’ll have to get used to.

Thanks Mike. As we can all see, Izzy is going to busy.

But regardless of whether or not Folau measures up as a player, much of the success of his recruitment will be measured off field. Folau’s job brief actually includes the words “development and promotion”, meaning he can expect to visit more schools than the Twisties delivery guy.

Will he cut through in rugby league land? Well, he was born in Minto in Sydney’s west, just over the back fence from Campbelltown Stadium, so that’s a good start.

He’s also of Tongan descent, which should help the large Pacific Islander community across greater Western Sydney tune their collective antennae to AFL – a sport they otherwise ignore.

Team GWS bosses are confident their new man will be worth every one of the million or so dollars he’ll earn for each of the next four years.

“Israel has strong links to this community and can also be a beacon for his community, who may not have considered our game as their first-choice sport, as GWS builds over the next 18 months to become part of the AFL,” Team GWS VEO Dale Holmes said.

The inference is clear. Israel Folau’s task is not to scale the AFL’s highest peaks. He just has to conquer Rooty Hill.

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    • Macca says:

      05:07pm | 01/06/10

      are the AFL paying him to be an AFL player or a PR guy?

      if I was even a decent AFL player (which i am certainly not), I would be furious that a bloke who has never stepped onto the MCG (is this correct?) will earn up to five times more than.

      As for Rugby League, put away the tissues, League have seen Gasnier, Tuquiri, Tahu, Cross, Barnes, Sailor, Williams and many more leave in the last few years. Most of them are a distant memory already, and a few of them have already bailed and come back to the game they grew up playing. Falou will be back, and if he’s not, who cares.

    • Justin says:

      05:11pm | 01/06/10

      2 years, a negotiated payout & back to rugby league.

    • stephen says:

      11:47am | 02/06/10

      Have to agree (if the NRL is still around.)
      Israel is too heavy for AFL. He’ll be slow in the centre. Footy is a reflex game : you respond to movement, rather than simply use brute force.
      If Sheedy wants to use him, he’ll have sitck him in the mud, full forward, tell him not to move, and mark and kick when the need arises, (in that order.

      PS League players are tough, but they don’t always got good noggin’.

    • Willy_K says:

      05:13pm | 01/06/10

      I hope he does.  Its win win for the AFL really - if he makes it - all good, if he doesn’t the AFL can claim that its a harder code etc etc.

      I personally think that the weight thing is a furphy.  Folau and Hunt will have to lose a lot of weight to play at AFL level.  Meaning they will not be big guys.  Hunt will be down at around a high 80’s playing weight at at 6ft1 or so will be small.  Israel will also be tall but not in the size league of Brown, Kozitsche or Franklin.

      I think the speed and random hits will shock them.

    • George says:

      06:08pm | 01/06/10

      You could also look at it as a lose lose.

      If he makes it, AFL is the easiest sport to play since he has never played a game in his life, if he doesnt its a massive waste of money for the AFL

    • Willy K says:

      11:27pm | 01/06/10

      True!

    • Recruiter Tails says:

      05:20pm | 01/06/10

      I’m tipping it’ll be an expensive fake.

    • Nick says:

      05:24pm | 01/06/10

      Good luck to him. I’m a Rugby Union fan and would have loved to have seen Israel sign for the new Melbourne Rebels. He would have been a great centre for the Wallabies, then he could have gone to France and earned a million bucks a year. I guess he can still do the France thing if AFL doesn’t work out. As a Western Sydneysider, I think the AFL are pouring money down the drain with GWS. They’re going to have to prop it up for decades to come.

    • Seano says:

      06:16pm | 01/06/10

      Don’t worry he’ll be back in Rugby of one form or another soon enough…

      With the GWS I’m surprised more AFL fans aren’t up in arms. Swans fans must be pissed because their team is struggling to pay the bills and Tassie fans bust be pissed because they’ve been ignored yet again…

    • man up kick it long says:

      05:35pm | 01/06/10

      It doesn’t matter if both Folau and Hunt crash and burn, they’ve already done their job. If they fail, league fans can console themselves, but their performance is really irrelevant in the bigger picture.

    • Seano says:

      06:12pm | 01/06/10

      As a leaguie I’m more than happy for the AFL to waste bucket loads of cash on a winger.

      AFL’s invasion of Western Sydney is doomed to failure. Kids in western Sydney aren’t interested (I know I work with them), League and Soccer that’s it. Israel isn’t going to change that..

      The GWS team is also going to fail because Sydney cannot support the league teams it has, it’ can’t support one NBL team and the Swans made a 700k loss last season. Throwing millions of dollars at an untried player no matter how good he was in League is just not financially viable.

    • BTS says:

      06:42pm | 01/06/10

      I like Alastair Lynch’s comments…any chase he manages both Hunt and Folau?

    • Tim says:

      06:53pm | 01/06/10

      This is hilarious.
      The GWS team are kidding themselves if they think this will gain them any more than a passing interest from western Sydney League fans.
      I predict that people will watch the first couple of games that Folau plays then go back to not caring about AFL.
      I would be dead set ropeable if i was an AFL player getting paid less than half what Folau will get.

    • biff says:

      07:33pm | 01/06/10

      I don’t mind if Folau tries his hand at AFL. I do think the NRL should make it clear that if a player chases the cash and then comes back to league a ban on playing rep football for 5 years must be served. It is hard to understand why some players chase the cash and then want to come back to league. I thought the reason some of them leave is because there isn’t enough money in league. Make up your minds fellas.

    • Angie says:

      07:46pm | 01/06/10

      As a rugby fan, I would have loved to see Folau at the Rebels and then the Wallabies. Of all the cross code players, only Tiquri was a legitimate star. Wendell is a great personality, Rogers lost us the RWC2003, Tahu couldn’t cut it (funny how he hammers a QLD player in Origin but hid when a Saffer or AB ran at him), Gaz isn’t good enough to make the Tahs….......

      Silly move though for Folau - the fitness and kicking will be his issue.

    • Arthur Spencer says:

      08:05pm | 01/06/10

      Two words - EPIC FAIL!!!

      Honestly Folau is slow, way too heavy and can’t kick. I reckon I’ve seen him kick a ball maybe 3 times and I wish I didn’t remember that fact. The only place he can play is full forward because all he can do is leap. But he will never get to the ball in time and even if he does he won’t kick a goal in a trillion years.

      You can’t blame the bloke though he’s 21. He’ll go and make the 6mil and then be back playing league by the time he’s 26. Good deal I think.

      The AFL are mad though they’re picking a Queenslander to sell AFL to die hard NSW rugby league fans…. Like I said,

      Epic Fail!

    • 80 metre barrel rammed through post high says:

      08:19pm | 01/06/10

      Welcome to the big league Israel!  Average height of 6’ 4” and not an ounce of weight bulk in sight.  They will be pinballs in a pinny!  I hope you guys do well but you will shocked by the size of the grounds, crowds, passion, players and the speed and angles that you will be smashed!  And no pads like the league lads.  Hope you enjoy the goal squares as you won’t be able to run out the 10-14k’s a game of the rovers!

      Can’t wait!

    • Seano says:

      10:13pm | 01/06/10

      Lmao….whilst I don’t give Israel or any league player much chance of making the change this late I think it’s laughable to claim that he’ll get smashed. If anything the AFL princesses better hope they can use those angles to hide because not many of them will get up if Israel hits em.

    • The Bulldog says:

      11:24pm | 01/06/10

      Folau is carrying a lot of bulk from weight gainer for RL.  At a proper playing weight Folau will not be that big.  All the clubs would have 5 or 6 players bigger than him.  And if he can’t read the play - he will wake up in emergency.  He will have target all over him.

    • Amy says:

      11:29pm | 01/06/10

      “No pads like the league guys” Umm… Have you ever watched a league game?  Where do they put said “pads”?

    • Gavin says:

      10:31am | 02/06/10

      are trying to imply that the hits in AFL are harder than the hits in NRL?
      Have you ever watched NRL in your life? or are you one of those head-up-their-ass victorians who refuse to watch anything other than AFL?

    • BK says:

      08:54pm | 01/06/10

      AFL are trying to copy rugby union’s formula to raise their profile in the rugby league states. In the 1980s, rugby had a small profile. When the ARU somehow found the money to buy Tuqiri, Sailor and Rogers, people suddenly started to watch rugby. They wanted to watch these high profile players and were surprised when they were no better than the rugby union natives. This brought new credibility to the game.
      Selling AFL to league fans is a harder task and teaching rugby players to adapt to a completely new game will be difficult as well. My bet is that these guys will be owned by kids from AFL states who have more experience.

    • luke09 says:

      08:58pm | 01/06/10

      It is a shame the AFL is destroying the quality of the game with the expansion to include two new teams the gold coast and west sydney. Lets hope i’m wrong and that this doesn’t turn out to be like the NRL super league when there was the adelaide rams and a perth team.

      Less is best.

    • Steve Smith says:

      11:32pm | 01/06/10

      Roy & HG sum up this circus perfecty: GWS Laughing Clowns. It’s all publicity, and I do not know if it’s doing AFL any good.

      Good luck to them. The more sport thats available for kids, the less that think Wii is real fitness. But surely, real success for GWS (and afl) will come from nurturing talent in AFLs junior ranks rather than poaching players.

    • pffft says:

      06:54am | 02/06/10

      Overated,overpaid and will be a flop,done nothing in league for 18 months and he is only 21,a joke

    • BTS says:

      07:48am | 02/06/10

      How’s your career going pffft?

    • @btw-pffft says:

      11:23am | 02/06/10

      Annual leave,off to sa to watch some world class footy,,what about u

    • Jealous says:

      09:35pm | 02/06/10

      @btw-pffft
      Lucky b@star$ - won’t be too many code swappers in the big one - real competition, real skill

    • Sheedy's Left Foot says:

      08:36am | 02/06/10

      I guess the problem I have with the whole thing is that $6million could have done so much for the game at grass roots level, supporting struggling clubs that give kids a chance to play sport in Australia’s suburbs. That money would have made a huge difference to AFL’s future.

      Instead what we have is a publicity stunt. Nothing more. And whilst the AFL may think that a poster boy for AFL in Western Sydney will do them long-term good they will be sorely disappointed as kids follow a code ahead of a player. Investing $6million in grass roots AFL in Western Sydney would have done far more for them in the long run.

      Also have to question what this will do for the long-term sustainability of the game as come contract negotiation time established AFL players will look for parity with the PR boys. I suppose the only upside for the AFL si that their stars cannot play anywhere else.

    • missy says:

      03:25pm | 02/06/10

      i don’t know, if one of your pretty boys whats to play league they should give it a go. have you seen the heads on some of our leagues..yuck.

    • Bob Higgs says:

      10:00am | 02/06/10

      The movement between the codes maybe highlights that while athleticism, fitness and coordination are always needed, skill and a game play brain is not.  All three games are simple to play and use the same body types to play well, which is all that is required.

    • Al says:

      03:25pm | 02/06/10

      The AFL hierachy’s belief in the leaguies’ ability to adapt leaves me wondering whether Aussie Rules is too basic a game.
      I grew up with league yet often find I have to recalibrate with it every few years as strategies change. Rugby is still a foreign language a lot of the time.
      But the more I watch Aussie Rules, the greater the sense that part of the game’s broad appeal is its dumb simplicity. It’s far from tactically sophisticated and the skill levels seem to be decreasing. You don’t have to grow up with the game to grasp it.
      I fail to understand the gripes on this thread about the kicking ability of Hunt and Folau. The number of AFL professionals who struggle to kick goals after taking a mark within 40m of the posts is staggering.
      We in NSW stopped saying that sort of thing in the past decade as TV coverage improved and expats assured us that “you really need to see what’s going around the ground—beyond the camera shot—to appreciate AFL”.  The flight of Hunt and Folau suggests even the game’s bosses don’t believe that. It’s a plain old game.

 

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