Update 10:55am: Shadow Cabinet signed off this morning on Malcolm Turnbull’s deal with the Government over the CPRS, and it is now being debated by the Coalition Party Room.

No. But he’s the Right Faction’s stalking horse should Malcolm Turnbull falter in his handling of the CPRS - which in the eyes of the more skeptical and conservative Libs he is already doing. And if there is a blow-up in the Party Room today, Kevin Andrews is expected to run for the leadership.

Kevin Andrews: may challenge Turnbull for the leadership today.

In what is looming as a chaotic and unpredictable day, the Right Faction is positioning itself to inflict a potentially mortal wound on Turnbull by moving a spill in protest at his excessive concessions over the carbon pollution reduction scheme.

Kevin Andrews is not the Right’s preferred candidate - but he is the one who has volunteered to go over the top on behalf of the party’s conservatives. He told SkyNews ominously yesterday that “At the moment we have a leader but I am a loyal servant of the party and I will do any job that I am asked to do,” Mr Andrews told Sky News.

Andrews is not expected to get the numbers.

He does not have the total support of the Right, which would rather see Tony Abbott emerge as leader.

But Andrews’ candidature could do two things. In isolation, it would damage Turnbull by drawing public attention to the level of dissatisfaction within the party, and set Tony Abbott up for a run in the near future. But it could also have the immediate effect of triggering a wave of other leadership nominations and counter-nominations inside today’s Party Room meeting with an unpredictable Melbourne Cup field slugging it out.

Andrews is a gentle sort of a bloke, a devout Christian and social conservative, and is well-liked within the party. But he has many strong critics of his past ministerial performance - most notably as Workplace Relations Minister when he struggled to sell the apparent benefits of Workchoices and was punted for Joe Hockey, or as Immigration Minister after Philip Ruddock when he led the bungled crusade against the (wrongly) accused terrorist Dr Haneef.

But today isn’t about his vision for the future or his leadership talents. It’s about clobbering Malcolm Turnbull. And as a loyal member of the Right, Andrews is prepared to go in as the spear-carrier for his faction today as Turnbull limps towards the end of this final sitting week for 2009.

- Kevin Andrews has submitted several pieces for The Punch over the past few months on climate change, population policy and an interesting personal piece on how his first job was as a race-caller. You can read them here.

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    • John A Neve says:

      05:24am | 24/11/09

      The state of politics in this country is woefull. We have a two party system with very little, if any thing, to chose between them.

      We have name changes, re-shuffles, policy overlaps, name calling, apologies for the past!! But little inspiration for Australia’s future!!!!

      Our parliament has become (if it wasn’t already) a good old boys club.
      No wonder so many people watch the Simpsons.

    • ROFL says:

      05:56am | 24/11/09

      What a hoot. They really are in trouble if they think this fellow is the answer. We already know exactly how useless he is!

    • TimT says:

      06:15am | 24/11/09

      He was absolutely hopeless as the Immigration Minister. He can’t handle one portfolio, let alone be Prime Minister. Kevin Andrews as leader of the Liberals would make me VOTE ONE - INDEPENDENT on the day. God, it would be stupid even considering him.

    • Seamus says:

      07:21am | 24/11/09

      mmm well an Andrews/Ruddock team…how funereal is that!

    • Biff says:

      07:25am | 24/11/09

      The Lib’s woes surely rend the heart of its supporters and the expediency of electing a telegenic leader has returned to bite the party’s MPs on the bum. As has been pointed out already, Mr Turnbull will look very awkward if he is forced to fight an election on something he and the present government hold to be true: climate change.

    • hoofman says:

      07:35am | 24/11/09

      I’d love to see the Libs make Kevin Andrews their leader. The next election would then be a real clash between old style conservatives led by Andrews and the moderate, centrist Labor led by Rudd. There is no doubt Rudd would win, and it would be a setback for social conservatism that it might not recover from. Tony Abbott would be the next best thing.

    • Steve says:

      07:43am | 24/11/09

      You have all missed the point, Andrews is not leading Liberal to the next election, he will be offered as alternate leader, till Tony Abbott takes the job, with Hockey as deputy from Liberal.

      I was a supporter of Turnbull but he has bungled this ETS, he should have said there will be no deals on ETS, and force Rudd into double dissoultion, and see what happens ETS is another tax, and the tax is on nothing

    • ROFL says:

      08:00am | 24/11/09

      ROFL! Missed the point? Missed what point? “People Skills” Abbott as Leader?

      If there’s a Leader - let alone a PM - hidden inside that goose, I’ll go hopping down Broadway in a sack at peak hour.

    • acker says:

      08:00am | 24/11/09

      If Kevin Andrews gets anywhere near the Liberal leadership as well as sending the party back to the year dot.

      Also open up a possible new 2 party fracture that may see a totally new entity such as the Enviro Conservatives emerge, quite possibly with Malcolm Turnbull leading it.

      I would also like to know if John Howard is still leading this group of right wing skeptics from beyond the grave, or perhaps from the other end of a late night phone call ?

      The Lib’s should learn to stop shooting the messenger, Malcolm Turnbull is just dragging it into the 21st Century. Rather the party should shoot Nick Minchin, Cory Bernardi and perennial trouble maker and owner of a horrible hair do..Julian McGaurin

    • Basenjirudi says:

      08:03am | 24/11/09

      Steve has it exactly right in relation to Andrews as an offered alternate leader - and in relation to Turnbull’s inept handling of ETS.

      However, IMO, Abbott is another politician unable to separate his religious bigotry from ‘government for all’ and Hockey is a joke. I cannot see any ‘leader’ anywhere.

    • ROFL says:

      08:05am | 24/11/09

      Must say, the prospect of the Libs & Nats sacrificing 17 Senators (seventeen!) at the next election is just bloody excellent! Looking forward to this landslide, dead set!

    • Daniel says:

      08:06am | 24/11/09

      Your comment:God that’s a scary thought. Andrews being leader. He will have ZERO support. It will see the ALP getting re elected for the next few elections though.

    • hoofman says:

      08:12am | 24/11/09

      So Steve 8:43am….they’ll make Andrews leader now, then in 6 months or so, hand it over to Abbott/Hockey? Right, that will work well. Liberal party strategist, are you?

    • soultrader says:

      08:13am | 24/11/09

      John A - you are right. Why bother holding elections when they all hold the same beliefs and profer the same policies, albeit with different names. This country needs variety and strength in politics, not mealy-mouthed, wishy-washy, spineless, under-achieving blow-hards. Where are the people of vision, those with balls who will stand up for what they REALLY believe in. This populism, pandering, wimpy stuff that we are stuck with, turns my stomach.
      When is somebody actually going to do something for this country and not just for their bank accounts.
      The Murray is in it’s death throes. The economy sucks. Infrastructure in this country is non-existent. And not one serious proposal to help any of these issues.
      What a BIG DISAPPOINTMENT our Pollies are.

    • Patrick says:

      08:13am | 24/11/09

      Is this the next leader of the Liberal Party? Not if they havn’t gone bat shit crazy he isn’t.

    • T.Chong says:

      08:21am | 24/11/09

      With the coalition, its rearranging the deckchairs.
      Humphreys as leader is as unlikely as Della Bosca in New South.
      Even worse choice would be Tony “Peoples person ” Abbott
      who is delusional enough to believe his version of catholicism is endearing to the majority of Australians.
      With leaders like these, their next PM has not entered parliament yet.

    • acker says:

      08:37am | 24/11/09

      If an extreme right wing Liberal faction emerges from the party room today, I think it might spell the end of the National Party.

      Australian politics usually has a major party on the left and right and a secondary party on the left or right

      On the left currently we have Labor the center left and the far left the Greens

      On the right we currently have Liberals center right and Nationals extreme right

      The Nationals almost got snuffed out once before out on the extreme right by One Nation in the mid nineties, if the Lib’s move out to the extreme right under Abbott/Andrews/Bishop (yes she’s a chance today)....what differentiates the Nat’s ?

      And with the Democrats being snuffed out last election their is already a vacuum in the center/right area of politics

      Liberals need to tread very warily, or some nightmare possible scenarios such as the

      Malcolm Turnbull - Enviro Conservatives

      or

      Mal Brough - Family First Republicans

      might become as familiar in future elections as the Greens or Nats

    • SM says:

      08:38am | 24/11/09

      Turnbull - smarmy, not a good enough speaker
      Abbott - robotic, boring, howard era, no
      Hockey - too much like the guy that won The Apprentice, lightweight
      Andrews - laughable

      Their problem is that they have zero A-Graders,  and 100 deluded, trouble making C-Graders

    • Margaret Gray says:

      08:42am | 24/11/09

      Sorry Penbo, Andrew Robb is the next leader.

    • ROFL says:

      08:46am | 24/11/09

      T Ching has a damn good point.

      After Turnbull, who? Really, what serious choices have they got? C’mon, be honest. Take the blinkers off - it sure isn’t Abbott, Hockey, the ludicrous Pyne, any Bishop, or Andrews.

      Uh, TC, sorry, there ain’t no Humphreys of any Party in the Reps. And the ACT Lib Senator is Humphries   - another dud, unknown nationally. Not a goer.

      Anways, answers please: in a plain sealed envelope addressed to “Liberal Party, Parliament House, Canberra ACT 2600”. Entries close December 2010. Make that 2013. Oh well, OK, extension to 2016.

    • Barb says:

      08:50am | 24/11/09

      Andrews would be a great leader and would easily beat Rudd if;-

      He treats the average worker fairly, and makes white working class Labour voters aware that a vote for Labour is a vote for mass-immigration, atheism, multiculturalism, feminism and gay rights. Most of these “progressive” social policies are supported by less than 30% of Australians.

      If Andrews halts multiculturalism in Australia and focuses on Christian social values - he’ll win and rule for many years.

    • Larry says:

      08:55am | 24/11/09

      Kevin Andrews for leader!!!!!!!
      If Simon Crean moved across to the Libs he would poll better than Andrews.

    • Bill adams says:

      09:01am | 24/11/09

      Everybody seems hellbent on knocking the opposition,Aren’t we all forgetting that opposition ran our country for more than a decade of prosperity,full employment,border containment and made us a proud nation.All this pandering to an inept prime minister and his inept government makes wonder what are we thinking?

    • ROFL says:

      09:00am | 24/11/09

      This thread is the best laugh I’ve had in ages.

      Robb! Gales of derisive laughter!

      “Whiet working class” eh. Poor Barb’s musta been forgettin to take her pills again! What a hoot!

      These folks really do show us the state of the Lib talent pool, eh.God my sides are aching! ROTFLMAO!

    • Jennie says:

      09:06am | 24/11/09

      What a load of garbage! another Leadership story. When are you thick heads going to give up! Turnbull won’t be going anywhere no matter what the outcome today. Turnbull will remain Leader, he is the only one capable of being Leader. Who is it going to be next week Penbo??? Bronwyn I supose, oh or did you already consider who for January? Maybe try Benardi for Feb and Ruddock for March. Just keep hoping Penbo there will be a leadership change so you have a story to tell!

    • ROFL says:

      09:08am | 24/11/09

      No, Bill, we remember those locust years of sloth very well indeed.

      We sacked them, and gave their Leader the boot, mate. We remember!

    • T.Chong says:

      09:15am | 24/11/09

      ROFL 9:46 yur corrections are noted- my excuse- getting two kids off the computer, out the door to school, plus the usual mad scattered thoughts of a Fabian Socialist. Its a heavy burden, and takes its toll.!!
      PS I like the “T.Ching” it allows me to pontificate rather than just be condescending.

    • CJ says:

      09:21am | 24/11/09

      I think Im going to be sick…

      How much must Malcolm be going crazy? I’m sure his ego will never be the same. That they are considering replacing HIM with a guy like Andrews?

      Poor Mal, he just can’t get a break. He should have left Brendan hanging on for dear life and then come in next round to sucker-punch Rudd. Oh well…

    • Juan says:

      09:31am | 24/11/09

      Do you guys ever get sick of dreaming up leadership stories for the Libs?

    • Ben says:

      09:37am | 24/11/09

      Andrews is percieved, quite reasonably, as a very decent person. For those so mired in their own bias, decent doesn’t mean a person’s views have to be agreeable to all individuals.

      He certainly struggled to market WorkChoices - who would NOT have? At least he understood it, Hockey certainly didn’t which is why he was so shocked that his smarmy political marketing didn’t succeed in retrospectively sugarcoating it in time for the 2007 poll.

      Yet again the media’s political commentators are doing our polity a disservice in their reporting of the Liberal Party’s contretemps over carbon trading. The present internal party melee is about the identity of the party which it consistently put-off while Howard reigned supreme. Why should this be a sign of political mismanagement? Why should it be a sign of political ineptitude and lack of ability to govern?

      Will a media political commentator PLEASE EXPLAIN why the vigorous application of, and compliance with internal party discipline is the most desirable quality a political party can have in order to govern?

    • Joe Stephens says:

      09:47am | 24/11/09

      The Liberal leadership is such a shambles, unless if Kevin Rudd introduces a radical policy to turn Australia into an Islamic state.. they have no hope at the next election

    • Tim says:

      10:25am | 24/11/09

      If the Liberals think electing a hard right leader will help their cause- Just look at what Peter Debnam did for them in the 2007 state election. All the shock jocks and tabloid support didn’t help him avoid catastrophic defeat.

    • Karen says:

      10:53am | 24/11/09

      The Liberals aren’t changing leaders for the zillionth time! get over it! who’s replacing Rudd?

    • jed says:

      11:00am | 24/11/09

      a fumbling fool like andrews in charge? it would be the end of the liberal party for at least another 2 elections. labor would be hoping for such an outcome

    • Manni says:

      11:00am | 24/11/09

      I’ve heard through a “reliable source” that Julia Gillard is positioning herself to take over the Labor leadership before the next election.

    • Joe says:

      11:05am | 24/11/09

      Someone needs to show Turnbull that at least half of Australia is opposed to an ETS. What is Turnbull thinking? He is a joke.

    • jimmy g says:

      11:15am | 24/11/09

      Are the Liberals that desperate that they need to consider Andrews, a religious nut? He is an advisor to Life Decisions International who advocate action against oganisations they consider a threat to their dogma - such as Rotary, Disney, J& J.

    • Grandma says:

      11:16am | 24/11/09

      Turnbull wants to move forward, but most of his Liberal colleages are still stuck in the Howard era. They can’t get past the fact that Howard has gone and was thrown out, and most of them should follow. It isn’t Turnbull thats the problem with the libs it’s the idiots around him.

    • GeeJay says:

      11:18am | 24/11/09

      Barb—- Barb….Wake up..Wake up.You are having a terrible nightmare!!!!

    • TimT says:

      11:36am | 24/11/09

      It’d be doubly crazy to get rid of Turnbull and put in someone who’s a climate change skeptic in the next few months. Every time we got a hot day Labor campaigners would just shout ‘OMG CLIMATE CHANGE IS HAPPENING!’ and the coalition’s polls would plummet.

    • azogdude says:

      11:38am | 24/11/09

      I bet if Andrews is leader Rudd will immediately trigger an election and there will be 110 Labor MPs and some huge number of Green Senators by the end of the financial year.

    • Keith says:

      11:39am | 24/11/09

      Barb - did you just wake up from a coma for the last 30 years darling, it’s now 2009!

    • Lisa says:

      11:44am | 24/11/09

      Turnbull should remain leader, he just needs to shoot a few people sitting behind him. He would make a great PM. Turnbull for PM.

    • Peter says:

      11:55am | 24/11/09

      The only good thing about Kevin Andrews becoming leader is that it would leave the Labor PR merchants with alot of useless “kevin10” bumper stickers.

    • A says:

      11:57am | 24/11/09

      Bring back Jeff!!

    • Laura says:

      11:59am | 24/11/09

      Turnbull will remain leader tomorrow, next week and next year, Penbo you wish it would be different and you would have something to write about, but wish as hard as you like it won’t happen.

    • Barb says:

      12:28pm | 24/11/09

      @ Keith says:12:39pm | 24/11/09

      If you think most Australian’s want to live like the Lady Gaga fanatics around Newtown your kidding yourself. You can’t run a country on Decadence.

    • xiaoecho says:

      01:44pm | 24/11/09

      Andrews as Liberal leader and possible Prime Minister?.......anyone with any vague connection to anyone called Haneef,  or even if you havn’t,  run for your lives

    • Jane says:

      01:52pm | 24/11/09

      Look at all the lefties and ALP/KRudd apologists displaying desperate faux glee and false bravado…and coming out swinging with ridicule at the suggestion of any leadership change.

      This issue combined with the past and ongoing disastrous handling of the asylum situation is showing up the folly of a directionless government addicted to POPULISM and votes at any cost. ALP motto - ‘whatever it takes’. Their true shallowness and policy ineptness masked for so long by the choreographed B grade actor and micro manager KRudd is finally beginning to unravel and show itself.

      Bring on a new Opposition leader I say…any from the ‘old school’ will do the job….now.

      I think there’ll be more than a few surprised and ‘egg on face’ at the next election.
      <smiling with genuine glee>

    • James says:

      02:06pm | 24/11/09

      Please let him be.  I hate the Libs

    • Margaret Gray says:

      02:07pm | 24/11/09

      ROFL says:10:00am | 24/11/09

      This thread is the best laugh I’ve had in ages.

      Robb! Gales of derisive laughter!


      ...from The Australian:

      MALCOLM Turnbull is fighting to secure the support of his partyroom for Labor’s emissions trading scheme deal after Liberal frontbencher Andrew Robb urged a no vote until after Copenhagen.

      The party’s climate change spokesman, who has been on leave due to depression, sparked applause in the partyroom when he declared his hand.

      He joins Senate leader Nick Minchin and frontbencher Tony Abbott in abandoning the leader’s push for a deal, leaving him isolated from his own frontbench.

      Mr Robb’s dramatic intervention today came amid anger in today’s meeting over chief negotiator Ian Macfarlane’s revelations that Labor predicated talks on the expectation of no deal at Copenhagen.

      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/turnbull-in-battle-to-secure-ets-deal/story-e6frg6xf-1225803315311

      ROTFLMAO @ ROFL

      Next.

    • fassifern says:

      02:18pm | 24/11/09

      If Kevin Andrews becomes one of the leaders of the Liberal Party, it will make me vote ABA at all future elections.  Anybody But Andrews.

    • Dan says:

      02:28pm | 24/11/09

      “Andrews is a gentle sort of a bloke, a devout Christian and social conservative, and is well-liked within the party.” Are you kidding? Andrews is not gentle. He is an extremist, and god help us all if he ever becomes leader of any party. Does the Liberals want to become One Nation? If we want evidence why he should never be appointed/elected leader of any party, just look at Barb. Her first post is evidence of why this should never be allowed to happen. The country must remain an absolute nightmare for people like her.

    • Paul says:

      02:46pm | 24/11/09

      Kevin Andrews puts the E back into egregious! May he be Lib leader forever.

    • Barb says:

      03:03pm | 24/11/09

      Dan says:03:28pm | 24/11/09

      “The country must remain an absolute nightmare for people like her.”

      That doesn’t sound very inclusive.

      BTW, this is one of the best websites going around - the articles are on important issues and it’s great we can swap our ideas with each other and hopefully make Australia a more perfect country.

    • Liam says:

      03:04pm | 24/11/09

      @ Barb says:01:28pm | 24/11/09

      Ahh the great crusade against decadance.
      I almost think you’re a history student mocking the right by trying to make yourself fit completely with the historical definition of fascism.
      But if you really were one of those little smark aleks that need a good clip around the ear, you surely would have had to make some postmodern reference to how smart you are.
      BTW - Andrews. This article has totally made my day. Hillarious in that you couldn’t make it up kind of way.

    • M Cooke says:

      05:18pm | 24/11/09

      I would vote for Kevin Andrews in a heart beat, the only thing I don’t like is his first name KEVIN , I thought Mr Turnball was the answer but he is looking to much like RUDD. Mr Andrews bring back the PACIFIC SOLUTION and Mr Ruddock , Australia is turning to sh*t under Labor.

    • Dan says:

      10:56pm | 24/11/09

      Barb, ‘that doesn’t sound very inclusive.’ LOL. Are you serious? You’re against mass-immigration, atheism, multiculturalism, feminism and gay rights and you say that ‘if Andrews halts multiculturalism in Australia and focuses on Christian social values - he’ll win and rule for many years’ adn you accuse me of not being inclusive. LOL. That is the funniest thing I’ve read in ages.

      Ni, Barb, it’s not inclusive. But then I have no desire to be inclusive to people who are incredibly non-inclusive such as yourself!


      m

    • COF says:

      08:42am | 25/11/09

      Let’s be truthful here. Partisan or not, nice guy or not, Kevin Andrews just isn’t any good at selling.

      The Libs have got to cough up something better. Turnbull is better, as is Hockey, Robb, and most other viable options. To put Andrews up as an option suggests that they don’t care about winning.

 

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