Kevin Rudd’s claim that the re-vamped COAG hospitals agreement constitutes ‘major national health reform’ is dubious at best.

Like deja vu all over again. Picture: Ray Strange

In fact, the ‘in principle’ COAG agreement abandons most of the central reform features of the Rudd blueprint.

A crucial plank of the Rudd reforms was to give the Commonwealth a controlling share in hospital funding and thus majority funding responsibility for the entire health sector.

This was aimed at removing current incentives for buck-passing and cost-shifting between health care sectors. Without a single point of funding and accountability for health care, there will always be the potential for governments to shift costs and responsibility.

As we have seen countless times on our evening news, the health policy debate then turns into a ‘blame game’ where governments focus more on shifting responsibility for services elsewhere than on addressing the problems.

Consumers are left frustrated and confused and the issues that they care about – access, quality, out-of-pocket costs - remain unresolved.

At the COAG negotiating table, the emphasis is on maximising the funds stowed away in their coffers rather than delivering better health care for consumers.

Listening to the rhetoric of the State and Territory Premiers, we could be forgiven for thinking that the dollars used by the states to fund health care are somehow intrinsically different from those used by the Commonwealth. 

In reality of course, all health funding ultimately comes from the community. It makes no difference to a consumer accessing a service whether or not it has been funded via the states/territories or by the Commonwealth.

It’s about as important as worrying about whether to pay your credit card bill from your savings or cheque account.

What is important is that – regardless of the source of the dollars – that the funding mechanism is efficient and supports the delivery of high quality and accessible care. 

This has not been achieved by the new COAG agreement under which the Commonwealth will remain a minority funder of hospital services, although sharing equally with the states and territories the cost of any growth.

The proposed ‘national funding pool’ of hospital funding may improve transparency of funding arrangements, if nationally agreed criteria for allocating funding can be developed. 

However, it still leaves the door wide open for disputes around the margins over how much each state and territory should be contributing to the joint pool. Then there’s the tussle over the definitions of growth funding versus recurrent funding.

It also does nothing to address issues important to consumers, such as the out-of-pocket expenses many face when accessing health care.

Kevin Rudd’s plan for health reform would have delivered some substantial and long-term changes to our health system. The current COAG agreement simply offers consumers more of the same.

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    • grumpy old man says:

      12:00pm | 15/02/11

      this isn’t a reform of anything, just a shuffling of the deck chairs. Nothing in this actually requires anyone to do anything any differently. Why do govts think that if you move the money about a bit, you can call it a reform?

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      12:23pm | 15/02/11

      Well, there *is* another level of bureaucracy, so I guess you can call it reform.

    • FloraP says:

      02:12pm | 15/02/11

      It is another Gillard historic deal, so sucked all of you that may think otherwise! The historic deal that is about 3 years too late.

    • Sam says:

      03:21pm | 15/02/11

      You do in Russia Tony.

    • MarK says:

      12:13pm | 15/02/11

      I see.

      Labor had a promise to do something. Because of lack of political will and a lack of a set of nuts they are doing nothing.

      To get some sort of a “deal”........  oh hell lets not be coy I recant the deal descriptor…....to get some sort of a headline onto the news they rolled over and gave us nothing new except for the announcement they are tossing a few more billion into the pot.

      This seems awfully familiar.

      Lie———->  back track————-> capitulate————-> cover you arse with made for TV quote and $$$$$$$$....always more $$$$$$$$. What’s a few more billion tossed onto the fire. Need to keep that light on the hill visible and all that.

      Thank god we have real journalists like Mal Farr that can advise us that Tony Abbott went off half cocked over this issue.

      We would have missed that HUGE story re these Historic Health Reforms of not for his hard hitting journalism.

      What did Gillard say 8 weeks ago….ummmmm

      Oh here it is

      http://www.pm.gov.au/press-office/2011-will-be-year-delivery-and-decision

      The bestest bit ..... well the most topical;

      “2011 is also the year we deliver historic health reform.
      From July 1, the Commonwealth’s share of hospital funding will increase to sixty per cent. The Independent Hospital Pricing Authority will be established and operational. GST retention and dedication to health care will commence.
      Access to elective surgery will improve as reward payments begin to flow to states. And the Commonwealth begins funding 60 per cent of public hospital research, training and capital.
      And the first group of Local Hospital Networks begin operating.”

      I have a tear in my eye. It sounds so good. Can someone pass me a flag?

      Kevin must be fuming. Like really cross. Probably approaching Kenneally cross by now.

      Thanks for the health reform Labor. It was a real pleasure to be alive to see these “Historic Health Reforms” go live….oh wait. There is no agreement yet.

      My bad. We have to wait to get more of the same.

      I mean really. How pathetic is that.

      It must be embarrassing being Roxon and Gillard right now.

    • Kim says:

      12:34pm | 15/02/11

      I would imagine it’s embarrassing being Roxon and Gillard at any time.

    • Adam Diver says:

      01:01pm | 15/02/11

      “2011 is also the year we deliver historic health reform.
      From July 1, the Commonwealth’s share of hospital funding will increase to sixty per cent.”

      For me personally, I don’t see how this is not the major issue. When the sound bites continually trumpet the “health reform” achieved by Julia Gillard (its not even a reform yet) I don’t understand why media organisations don’t pair up thier sound bites.

      Its like the media don’t even care if promises are kept, like its an expectation that they won’t and we should not expect otherwise. Unless of course the promise is to not re-introduce work choices.

    • Norma says:

      01:02pm | 15/02/11

      You thank god for Farr’s “Abbott impatient to declare health deal a disaster”
      Then go on to declare more or less the same as Abbott.
      My biggest bitch about the whole sham - that the COAG was held less than 2 months before the biggest state is highly likely to change Government.

    • Bitten says:

      01:24pm | 15/02/11

      *chuckles*

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      01:47pm | 15/02/11

      Considering Howard didn’t do jack about health reform the Liberals don’t have much to talk about. It needs to be a total federal or state responsibility, not a shared responsibility.

      But considering the baby boomers will totally bankrupt the health care system within ten years, I question why any government would want the responsibility….

    • MarK says:

      02:37pm | 15/02/11

      Yes Norma, I love it when Mal Farr takes a critical look at “the real issue” surrounding anything of import.

      I feel it is important to credit Mal with getting to the heart of the matter.

      Surely Abbotts response to a non policy is more important than the non policy. Who cares what the government (and I use that term loosely as a point of reference not as a descriptor of any control they actually have) is doing , or not doing as the case may be, vis health. It is all about peoples response to it.

      Gosh….I can see that.

      Don’t you agree?

      But but but Shane…...didn’t you read the piece?

      “Considering Howard didn’t do jack about health reform the Liberals don’t have much to talk about.”

      If the Liberals did nothing and this deal changes nothing what does that have to say about Labor?

      I know you guys still have this bro crush on JWH and you can’t get him out of your heads but seriously if you are going to trash him you got to be careful not to trash your side by association.

    • Tim says:

      03:05pm | 15/02/11

      MarK,
      so we’re all agreed that the Liberals did nothing about this when in power, Labor have continued the trend of stuffing things up and Abbott’s response to these stuff ups was off-target ?
      I always find it easier to trash both sides due to their equal incompetence.

    • MarK says:

      03:31pm | 15/02/11

      ”  Tim says:

        03:05pm | 15/02/11

        MarK,
        so we’re all agreed that the Liberals did nothing about this when in power, Labor have continued the trend of stuffing things up and Abbott’s response to these stuff ups was off-target ?
        I always find it easier to trash both sides due to their equal incompetence.

      Oh not at all dear fellow .

      Not at all.

      If you note what I said to you (and Holly) it was this

      “If the Liberals did nothing and this deal changes nothing what does that have to say about Labor?” - says MarK

      Note the IF at the start.

      I am merely pointing out the flaw in your argument for you. The inconsistency.

      It is not a case of Labor “stuffing things up”. It is a case of their incompetence and managerial style.

      It is a case of them promising something and not delivering. And when that promise and non delivery becomes an issue what is the default position?

      Throw cash at it to mask it/fix it/cover it up. Get a committee or five on the job. It always helps as well. Get “independent” people you pay and appoint to look at the issue is another favourite tactic.

      Lets recount one of the largest of these situations.

      We had climate change and action there on going from the greatest moral challenge of our time, a scourge we had but days to fix pre Copenhagen (ahhhh those were the days when the world was ending and The Day After Tomorrow was a documentary) to number 7 on a to-do-list and not that much of a bother.

      We can even lie about our intentions like….oh I don’t know….pre election when proposing a new tax would be “inconvenient” to after the election and simply whacking one on the appease your new best buddies the Greens. while simultaneously trashing every other vital and necessary (well at the time they were announced) green scheme going.

      See the parallel.

      Make an overreaching ridiculous statement. Toss in an “ambitous” policy plan that is shit. Back away when the going gets tough. Say OMFG this sucks people hate us. Shovel cash at the void left.

      This is not the action or rational, sensible and competent people.

      They do it all the time.

      it is so boring. They are not even sneaky about it. I like a good lie well explained. Keating, Hawke and Howard and to an extent Costello were masters at it.

      Gillard and Rudd fail at failure. That is not a good political trait to have.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      03:35pm | 15/02/11

      @MarK- As I said before, I hold both parties equally stupid and incompetent. I’ve stated that the last decent leader Australia had was Paul Keating because he made the hard decisions. So much for trashing the “I hate both parties” side by association….

    • MarK says:

      03:52pm | 15/02/11

      Yes Shane?

      So?

    • Tim says:

      04:04pm | 15/02/11

      MarK,
      you’ll excuse my confusion. I just thought with the perfect oppotunity to refute Shane’s assertion I found it strange you left it alone.
      As for promising something and not delivering or lying to the electorate , well I think you’ll find JWH and the Liberals were equally as bad. Non-Core promises, pre-election cash bonanzas for marginal seats and all that.
      “I like a good lie well explained. Keating, Hawke and Howard and to an extent Costello were masters at it.”
      I’d much prefer our politicians to talk straight, make hard decisions and stick with their true ideals. Both parties are guilty of pandering to imbeciles and making ridiculous election promises. A pox on both their houses.

    • Sandy says:

      08:45am | 16/02/11

      @Tim and Shane,  good Hawker Britton stuff.

      When your masters get caught out as manifestly incompetent or corrupt, all you say is “both sides do it”. yeah, Doesn’t matter if it is paedophilia, wife beating, lying, you wheel out that same lame excuse.

    • Tim says:

      11:13am | 16/02/11

      Masters, Sandy?
      What planet are you from?
      I think you’ll find i’m consistent in my hatred of incompetents (politician or otherwise) in general.
      How could my comment that both sides of politics are lying, incompetent idiots and that we deserve better be seen as a pro Labor comment?  Did someone tighten your blinkers on too tight this morning?
      Oh and nice way to blow things out of proportion too. Paedophilia, Wife beating? That’s funny stuff.

    • Sandy says:

      08:38pm | 16/02/11

      Tim, “pro Labor comment” are your words. I did not mention Labor. You did. If the cap fits, Tim, wear it.

      .... Nannu, Nannu.

    • Flexo says:

      12:44pm | 15/02/11

      Roxon and Gillard have delivered nothing. This is like the tale of The Emperor’s Clothes. Everyone is making a big deal about nothing….no everyone I’m being serious there is absolutely nothing. No actual signed and sealed deal, no actual reform in place. Just promises and in principle statements.

      The best part is that Gillard got to stick it to good ol’ boy Rudd once more. How this man walks around with his head held high is a scientific miracle! If Rudd had it in him, he should have destroyed Gillard months ago. Now his lack of guts has come around to bite him, too funny!

    • Bruce The Goose says:

      01:15pm | 15/02/11

      Gillards out of the country….....where’s Rudd (he’s always pratting around somewhere OS)..........nows our chance….................CLOSE THE AIRPORTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • SD says:

      03:25pm | 15/02/11

      Can we revoke her citizenship, declare her an illegal alien and communist agitator (by action) and bar here from returning to the country, PLEASE?

    • john says:

      04:51pm | 15/02/11

      Labor will win the next election in a landslide, because they will buy our votes.

    • Ryan says:

      05:01pm | 15/02/11

      This does show him to be the spineless slug that he is.

    • labor = pack of liars says:

      01:33pm | 15/02/11

      The word ‘reform’ has become nothing more than an Orwellian type adjective added onto whatever Labor wants to pretend it’s doing something about. They just tag it onto anything they do - it’‘s a get out of scrutiny free card that the corporate controlled media just lap up.

      It no longer has any meaning whatsoever and when i hear ju-LIAR or any of her lackeys use it - i switch off immediately.  ... In fact i can no longer stand to hear the word ‘reform’ being used by these Labor incompetents - it has become somewhat of an insult being used by those inept, unaccountable, lying politicians who pretend they are working for the citizens of Australia. 

      Much like ju-LIAR’s line about population sustainability. Orwellian much? Just another distraction for the sheeple so they think the govt’s actually doing something.

      And when is a journalist going to keep ju-LIAR accountable for her promise NOT to introduce carbon dioxide taxes? Still waiting ...

    • Macca says:

      01:40pm | 15/02/11

      Why is the article referring to the minister for Foreign Egos who had nothing to do with the current “reform”?

      In fact, the Prime Minister is not once mentioned. Is this a serious posting?

    • Paul says:

      01:49pm | 15/02/11

      This seems to be more than the coalition, they have shown nothing.

    • Ryan says:

      02:15pm | 15/02/11

      Well if they actually manage to deliver something it will be counted as a first.

    • Sid says:

      03:15pm | 15/02/11

      Be fair Ryan, they did start and complete ONE action. The knifing of their leader in the true traditions of the Lie-bor style. Who said their union training does not serve a practical purpose.

    • Holly says:

      02:27pm | 15/02/11

      This morning on the Drum your comments were expressed in a much more positive way about this package I thought.  So maybe it’s a case of “horses for courses” which would be disappointing.

      I note you have made no mention of the “famously temperamental and ego driven players” that Julia Gillard will have to contend with in this article.  Nor have you acknowledged the need for challenging the power of the AMA which you did in the Drum article.  Also in that article you acknowledged that “it would be harder for state and territory governments to hide inefficiencies and poor management practices and that it “would be easier for health bureaucrats and the community as a whole to see where our tax dollars are being spent in the hospital and to compare performance across states.”

      Sorry also to disappoint the rusted on coalition supporters above but Tony Abbott is already looking like he might be prepared to support this package.
      He realises that it will be to the benefit of the coalition if the process of reform is at least a few steps along the way by the time he thinks he might get to be PM.

    • seamus says:

      03:11pm | 15/02/11

      It may not be as significant as some would like, but at least the labor government are making an attempt to improve public health (Although we all know that for all the good intentions the current government has major flaws in a little area called policy implementation). However I would challenge anyone to name anything of any great significance that the liberal party have done in improving public health in this country. As it stands the only significant contribution the liberal party have made to public health in this country was to subsidise the bloated health insurance industry at great public expense. This expenditure on supporting private health insures has resulted in nothing more than increased public expenditure on health for no gain in the health of Australians. In saying this I would encourage anyone who has the time to read what the OECD has to say on the matter. In my opinion both major parties can do a lot better when it comes to the health of the citizens of Australia.

    • MarK says:

      06:33pm | 15/02/11

      You know the government of the day is crap when people defend it by saying they aren’t doing much but the last lot 4 years ago did worse.

      No facts of course.

      Just an accusation.

      Is this really the best Labor can garnish?

      They are in more trouble than I thought.

    • Ted B says:

      03:19pm | 15/02/11

      Maybe the fact that the package more reflects the coalition’s policies than Labors has something to do with Abbott’s support, but I know this is to hard an idea for welded on Labor diehards to understand.

    • Michael says:

      04:07pm | 15/02/11

      It’s not reform at all - it’s an open discussion that people are in agreement that they should keep having… ie: more of the same from labor. Much money will be spent, no real solution will be found and nothing much will happen, but labor will fully expect (and history shows they are right) that the moron voters of Australia will have forgotten this by this time next year. All we can really be sure of is that by the time the next election rolls around, theads will say reform and nobody will remember what, if anything actually happened.

    • nossy says:

      04:31pm | 15/02/11

      How disgraceful is Scott Morrisons comment that the Asylum Seekers should pay their own way to their childrens and sons/daughters funerals ! Shameful and good to see Joe Hockey at least has come out and voiced his dipleasure at Morrisons shameful comments. If you want a peek in to the world the Liberals would deliver us look no further than Abbotts trusted Immigration spokeman the weak Scott Morrison ! Shame Abbott Shame !

    • MarK says:

      06:31pm | 15/02/11

      Yes.

      I see how this relates to hospitals and the non delivery of Historic Health Reforms.

      Good point.

    • nossy says:

      06:43pm | 15/02/11

      @MarK - hai Marky hows your job application coming with Whiney Pyney ? Honestly fella you Lib bloggers are marvellous - doing it all for no money I hear !  And not 1 vote ever changes sides !hahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • Gregg says:

      10:54pm | 15/02/11

      @ Nossy,
      We know Joe ain’t got much in the way of balls whereas Scott Morrison at least comes out and says it as it is and how most Australians would feel.
      We’ve got a government not doing a bloody thing to effectively stop the people smuggling and in fact is raising the sail on over flags even higher.
      There would not be the deaths occurring at sea if the UNHCR process was used instead of people smugglers and we would not have:
      .  a burgeoning tax payer funded expense
      http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/asylum-seekers-25m-hotel-bill/story-e6freuzr-1226005955902
      . Australians lives being put at risk
      . Medical services that many Australians could use being allocated to those using people smugglers.
      . Housing that could be allocated to people who have lost housing allocated to those using people smugglers.
      . Those queue jumpers atr even putting in claims for injuries and being paid millions.
      . Social security benefits paid to them probably for the rest of their lives.
      When is this disgraceful mob that have the cheek to call themselves a government going to start governing for Australians.
      And now they are flying people to funerals when previously they probably had no documentation to show who they were, so what checks were made to know who the rellies were.
      If my daughter or grandaughter dies on the other side of the country are they going to offer me a free return flight/
      No way, just keep paying your taxes so we can support all the freeloaders we are welcoming.
      Wake up to yourself Lostnow and open your eyes to see this for what it is and that’s just another inability of this government to govern.
      Shame on them all, Windsor and Oakeshott and any who support them.

    • Seano says:

      10:02am | 16/02/11

      Yes

      And I see how highlighting that this post has been filed on the incorrect thread is a a defence of Scott Morrison and the Liberals on the issue raised.

      Good point.

    • Jane says:

      03:08pm | 17/02/11

      @Gregg. I don’t feel like that, I’m quite happy for their funerals to be paid out of tax payer money. How are ‘Australian lives being put at risk?’ exactly…

      Don’t make sweeping statements that have no fact.

    • Holly says:

      04:57pm | 15/02/11

      Ted B I think in fact Abbott wanted to directly fund each hospital which would have its own separate board - a real recipe for for poor delivery and waste.

    • Against the Man says:

      07:27pm | 15/02/11

      A quote from http://www.6minutes.com.au/news/Medicare-Local-plans-expanded-and—fast-tracked

      ‘Julia, desperate to achieve anything as a lame duck PM, is heading full throttle to a repeat of the fabled “school shelter shed fiasco” and the “pink batts disaster”. She should have stuck to being a union lawyer or party hack.’
      Bob Allan

      This is such a true and accurate description of our fake PM. The ALP must be in lock down mode - do we dump her? do we get shorten in? do we soldier on? will this last 2 years? will the independents crack? the game is getting interesting, very intersting indeed for Aussie’s fake PM smile

    • mary monica roche says:

      07:58pm | 15/02/11

      As Tony Abbott would say,  shit happens.

    • Christian Real says:

      11:04am | 16/02/11

      mary monica roche
      Yes you are right “shit happens”, and Tony Abbott does a good impersonation of a side show alley clown, with that bobbing and head nodding.

    • susie says:

      08:48am | 12/04/11

      Reform was actually about money management not about patients at all and staff. Thanks heaps to all concerned

 

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