The torturous negotiations over who can form a Government have taken an interesting twist, with former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd arriving in Canberra as talks with crucial independents begin.

Rudd to the rescue? Picture: Channel 7 News.

The former Prime Minister, turned backbencher, turned Labor election campaigner has arrived at the same time crucial talks with rural independents Tony Windsor, Rob Oakeshott and Queenslander Bob Katter are taking place at Parliament House.

While Mr Rudd’s office says his trip to Canberra is not directly related to an attempt to form a Labor Government with the three independents, the former PM has a good relationship with the former independents, and is understood to have contacted Mr Katter on election night congratulating him on his re-election.

Mr Katter has previously expressed admiration for Mr Rudd, telling the Daily Telegraph after the election: “If Rudd was still in the seat, it would be very hard to go against Kevin.”

A spokesman for Prime Minister Gillard’s office has said that Mr Rudd will not form part of the negotiating team with the independents, but Mr Rudd’s office would not rule out contact with any contact with the MPs while he is in Canberra.

The official line from Mr Rudd’s office is that the former Prime Minister has “appointments around town.” Given that he is packing up a former full time life here it may not be very surprising.

None of this is to say that Rudd shouldn’t form part of the negoiations with the independents.

In fact if he isn’t it would make sense for the Government to bring him along. If it was acceptable for Rudd to meet Gillard during the campaign and go out campaigning, why not use him now? 

Rudd is known to have a good relationshiop with Windsor, Oakeshott and Katter, and his sway, especially with the fiesty Queenslander, could end up putting Labor in the box seat.

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    • Super D says:

      04:11pm | 25/08/10

      Rudd is going to see if the coalition wil make him foreign minister.

    • Rob says:

      04:15pm | 25/08/10

      He’s probably just doing the numbers to return Julia’s knife.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      05:26pm | 25/08/10

      Isn’t one of his grommets still in some posh private school down there? Maybe they are off to see him or her or whatever.

    • Arios says:

      10:44pm | 25/08/10

      Lol. Radford? raspberry

    • dovif says:

      04:17pm | 25/08/10

      Bring back Rudd as PM, then have Gillard backstabb him before the next election

    • Steve says:

      02:26am | 26/08/10

      @dovif: More than likely he as come to watch the circus of Tony and Miss Vain with the circling of Malcolm and friends wanting to return the favour. The faceless men of the mining community and Tony’s boss big Clive will be on hand with some brown bag money anyway…

    • ALL says:

      04:23pm | 25/08/10

      If Gillard does or is seen as having to turn to Rudd to get the Independents in line and form a minority government, her leadership will be further weakened. The smell of a weak leader will accelerate the call for non-confidence votes. Eventually one will be successful and Gillard will be so weak that Rudd will be in a position to reassume the leadership before the next election.

    • Tedd says:

      04:23pm | 25/08/10

      Interesting that Rudd developed a good relationship with the independent Katter yet did not have good relationships with Bob Brown as a Senate Leader or some of his own executive.

    • jb says:

      04:24pm | 25/08/10

      Oh I hope the indies tell Labor they will go with them if they make Rudd PM again, now wow that would be something…

    • Sweet Choc says:

      09:39pm | 25/08/10

      That will be perfect justice. Yet almost impossible in an unjust world!

    • nic says:

      04:25pm | 25/08/10

      utterly hillarious

    • Grovelling says:

      09:48am | 26/08/10

      Talk about a circus, if it was not so serious it would be funny.  It is disgusting to see our Leaders grovelling to these people, lets’ call another Election!!!

    • Dirk Hartog says:

      04:34pm | 25/08/10

      Just saw an interview on ABC 24 with Greg Rudd, Kevin’s brother.
      Now there’s the Rudd we should have had. Smart, erudite and full of interesting ideas about the way government in this country should be heading.
      I’d love to see him on Q and A.

    • Sweet Choc says:

      09:53pm | 25/08/10

      Dirk, in real life Kevin is much smarter than Greg but perhaps not as good looking. These days looks count much more than brains…. pity!! It amazes me that people who don’t know Kevin or his intellectual powers regard him as a dud. Perhaps these people are seeing a reflection of themselves. Kevin is also a man with a vision for this nation, a man of great ideas and who would have transformed Australia for the better. Labour’s loss!

    • Tedd says:

      08:19am | 26/08/10

      Sweet Choc, “would have” doesn’t match with “could have” or “should have”.  He failed to follow rhetoric with action in a number of areas.

    • Randal says:

      04:35pm | 25/08/10

      Great plan, because Kevin was so susccesful in the ALP campaign, what was the strike rate, 7 seats campaigned in for six losses, plus a 9% swing against him in his own seat.

      Of course not as effective as holding the record from NewsPoll for the fastest fall in approval rating in their history.

      With a strike rate like that, by all means let the Ruddster loose, that should just about get the Coalition over the line.

    • Tails says:

      04:37pm | 25/08/10

      Of course his brother’s name is Greg. Brilliant.
      Greg. Greg Rudd. Brilliant.

    • The Badger says:

      05:41pm | 25/08/10

      Some people are easily amused.

    • Tarzan says:

      08:56pm | 25/08/10

      Badger what happened to your cut and paste quotations?
      They were your best contributions.

    • Duff says:

      04:41pm | 25/08/10

      And here we were complaining about how boring it all was.  Only the Chasers could write an election script more entertaining than this.

    • chimpchasers says:

      04:53am | 26/08/10

      Agreed the chasers are labor based goons without a sense of humor,they fit right here

    • nosthow says:

      04:44pm | 25/08/10

      Well good idea if rudd becomes involved in negotiations Leo after all he was also a Diplomat for many years. The failed Abbott team may well field Jooooly Bishop or some other “top” talent they can muster but none to match the ability of Mr Rudd. Bob Katter loves him and has said so. Good stuff I say and we may see a stable Labor government back in power very soon. The Liberal Party on the other hand must look into getting themselves a leader that can actually win winnable elections unlike the loser they have in Abbott !

    • Tails says:

      04:55pm | 25/08/10

      <rubs eyes> What?

    • Randal says:

      05:00pm | 25/08/10

      Ah the sweet sound of bitterness nosthow…

      Perhaps you you like a tissue to wipe away those tears…  Or more appropiately to wipe that brown smear from your chin??

    • Nigel Catchlove says:

      05:04pm | 25/08/10

      Do you have anything relevant to add?  It’s just that you have pretty much the same post for every item; “Woo Hoo, go Labor, Abbott is unelectable’.  A valid point of view perhaps but one that demands backing up with fact rather that sounding like a drunken football supporter’s claim that Team A is better than Team B.

      I’m assuming you’re young - probably a teenager; are you old enough to vote?  Do you understand the subtleties of power-plays in Federal politics?

      It would make sense for Gillard to use Rudd to negotiate with the independant MPs but neither Rudd nor the Liberal negotiators will benefit from tatoo’d thugs screaming for them from the sidelines.  I thought The Punch was a step above the other blogs run by SMH and News but apparently not.

      Whichever side wins the right to form Government, the Opposition will be out to demonstrate that the Government is neither competent or stable and any sign of disunity will be leapt upon with glee so the next 18 months to two years (I don’t think a government will last any longer) will be an interesting time for Australia with nothing controversial happening.

    • Reg says:

      06:07pm | 25/08/10

      Nigel, ... FOUR paragraphs “with nothing relevant to add?” Allow me to point you to the observation that Queensland politicians can be very direct and still remain friends. Something the average Southerner know SFA about.

      If you’re going to bore use with this s***... please get used to the rule that it’s neither//nor and has been since Jesus wore shorts..

    • nosthow says:

      06:07pm | 25/08/10

      @Nigel Catchlove - ahh sweet Nigel - as you clearly have NOT read my previous blogs you would know i am a retiree sonny. But you have every right to disagree with my statement that Abbott is a dud - but you didnt Nigel, you didnt so!  hahahh

    • nic says:

      06:09pm | 25/08/10

      Yeah that ‘loser’ nyuk nyuk, the guy who may, erm, win?
      A stable Labor Government you say? Not if labot themselves have anything to do with it. Time to put down that bong.

    • nosthow says:

      06:10pm | 25/08/10

      @Randal - “music” to my eyes Randal - a sad Lib trying to justify a loss ! He didnt WIN Randal !

    • Aitch B says:

      06:11pm | 25/08/10

      @Nosthow

      [sigh]................. so tiresome.

    • Nicole says:

      08:06pm | 25/08/10

      Err Reg, I’ve never, ever, read anywhere that Jesus wore shorts. Gawd, you’re not that old!

    • Jason CR says:

      08:17pm | 25/08/10

      Nosthow, why was it a winnable election when you posted your thoughts last week as below.

      nosthow says:01:52pm | 19/08/10

      “A comfortable Labor win I feel Colgo mainly because its only the Labor Party that has any real policies and vision for Australias future.”

      If you predicted a comfortable Labor win, then surely Abbott did well to achieve a hung parliament.  Which is it?
      As for Bob Katter loving Rudd, well isn’t that an endorsement!

    • nosthow says:

      08:36pm | 25/08/10

      @Aitch B - I scrolled down Aith to see what else you had written and came up with “jot” ! Typical Liberal - all smoke and no sausage ! Have another go son - 5 words will do !

      @nic - dont touch the stuff nic laddy/lassie !

    • Grovelling says:

      11:21am | 26/08/10

      I think that Bill Shorten is standing by the side watching it all unfold and then he will be there for the killing of who ever gets in his way to become Prime Minister and then we will all be sorry!!!!

    • Alfred Deakin says:

      04:49pm | 25/08/10

      Who was that Liberal leader who was knifed by his deputy in 1989 and came back to be PM later?

    • Amused says:

      08:59pm | 25/08/10

      There was no serving Liberal Prime Minister in 1989.

      Go and compare your apples with your oranges some place else, champ.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      04:57pm | 25/08/10

      unfknblvbl. More twists and turns than a scenic railway. Think I will cancel my Foxtel; this is much better value.

    • The Badger says:

      05:43pm | 25/08/10

      Ahhhh foxtel - where Bolt and Akerman get their news from.

      This may actually do you some good.

    • PaulB says:

      06:02pm | 25/08/10

      Bolt would love to be Australia’s Rush Limbaugh.  Like Rush he seems to have all his views vetted by the ADL.

    • Against the Man says:

      05:24pm | 25/08/10

      Rudd needs to abandon the Labor machine that betrayed him. He really needs a spine transplant stat!

    • Seano says:

      08:51pm | 25/08/10

      Your village is missing you.

    • Against the Man says:

      07:07am | 26/08/10

      Oh Seano I hope you find some pain relief for the hurt the truth is causing you. Maybe KRudd can share some of his post operative meds with you. HaHa.

    • TomV says:

      10:02am | 26/08/10

      Rudd just let the ALP machine eat him up and spit him out. I would never allow any organisation to treat me that way. Spineless, gutless, hopeless!

    • Philip says:

      10:53am | 26/08/10

      Don’t you get it ? Rudd aka middleman is strenghtening his negotiating position for his push and shove for stephen Smith’s job,or maybe Ambassador to the U.N.
      Trouble is he doesn’t recognise any boundaries and will likely end up p*****g off Jooles if he hasn’t already done it. She forgot to twist the knife when she stabbed him and there is nothing more scary than a wounded Kevvie.

    • Seano says:

      07:02pm | 26/08/10

      ATM - Rudd has shown a great deal of “spine” in the way he has has handled his outsting. The amusement factor generated by your barely lucid ramblings is waning.

    • Louisa says:

      05:24pm | 25/08/10

      He is probably in Canbera to see how his veggie patch is going.  Had Julia moved to The Lodge everything would have died by now….... going by the look of her house in Victoria.

    • DC says:

      01:36pm | 26/08/10

      Cat food, table 9.

    • Sam Chowder says:

      05:40pm | 25/08/10

      Any moment now I will wake up and realise it was all a silly dream and John Howard is still PM

    • Reg says:

      06:13pm | 25/08/10

      That would be a waking nightmare Sam. What HAVE you been smoking?

    • Against the Man says:

      07:53pm | 25/08/10

      The nightmare we are in right now thanks to KRudd/ALP/Gillard is likely to end soon, they should all pay a price for the crap job they have done. Australians deserve better than these losers!

    • Nicole says:

      08:09pm | 25/08/10

      YAY! Bring back Johnny.

    • JC says:

      10:30am | 26/08/10

      Yes Labor did a really crap job - protecting Australian jobs and our economy from the global financial meltdown that decimated the economies of nearly all other developed nations. I really think some of you complaining about ‘how bad it is in Australia’ are seriously delusional. It’s nothing short of a miracle that our economy is in the state it’s in. Labor did a good job. Yes I know it’s hard for the rusted-on conservatives to accept, but it’s the truth.

    • Jacks says:

      11:20am | 26/08/10

      And what a lovely dream that would be.  Johnny looked good on election night - pleanty of years left in the old boy yet!!

      He was by far the best PM in my lifetime.

    • gil4d says:

      11:53am | 26/08/10

      jc labour did a good job with the money left to them by the john & peter . if we had just come off 10 years of labour spending and the gfc hit how do you think we would have gone ?? by the way i am still not convinced its over yet i suspect the worest is yet to come . then we will see how economically brillant your beloved labour party really are

    • Nicole says:

      12:18pm | 26/08/10

      And where did Labor get all the money from JC? Yes you’re right. Labor have done a fabulous job…...........at screwing the country.

    • JC says:

      07:06pm | 26/08/10

      Howard and co amassed that surplus by selling our assets and by limiting spending on infrastructure and education. Fine, that was their choice. The point I’m making is that Australia has the second highest standard of living in the world and the strongest economy in the developed world. That is now, not 3 years ago. Now. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. You can’t say ‘Australia is in a mess because of Labor’ and then say ‘Australia is great because of Howard’. I’m not a rusted-on conservative or a rusted-on Labor voter. I think both parties managed the economy fairly well, although it would have been good to see more investment in infrastructure and education as this impact on our long-term future. Complaining about stimulus spending is ridiculous. If Labor didn’t do it, we would be in a serious recession now and even more debt due to lost tax income. Most countries spent a lot more and still didn’t avoid recession. I think Australians are failing to realise just how bad the GFC has been in the rest of world.

    • Seano says:

      07:07pm | 26/08/10

      @Nicole - “And where did Labor get all the money?”. Genius that would be tax payers not the Liberal party. I tiny amount of debt relative to income to save thousands upon thousand of jobs. Jobs held by taxpayers.

    • Farkurnell says:

      08:51pm | 26/08/10

      The libs have brought back John Howard , he’s just got an alias Tony Abbott. Also while Labor contemplate bring in a chief negotiator like the
      Ruddster, the Libs should bring in Warren Truss & Barnaby to negotiate for them.I reckon we’‘ll have are result by Xmas.

    • KenG says:

      06:00pm | 25/08/10

      I have a brilliant idea for a movie,  it’s all about a machine that keeps coming back, time after time, over time and under time.  I have a working title for it as well ‘The Ruddinator’, it’s sole purpose as directed by Kevinet is to destroy the Labor Party using any means possible and at its disposal including untried, as well tested machinations behind the scenes, in any up coming elections depending on how the electorate votes in any previous elections.

    • Reg says:

      11:26pm | 25/08/10

      Make your movie, we’ll tell you if it’s brilliant. Don’t mortgage the house though and if this is an illustration of Liberal humour, you’re screwed.

    • Jim says:

      12:09pm | 26/08/10

      Not sure about a movie KenG, but there’s definately enough corruption, lies, scandal, rorts, intimidation, back stabbing, vote rigging, secret deals and fraud involved in the Labor/Union coalition to make another Underbelly series! Throw in the Greens for a wanky, drugged out sideshow and you’ve got it all.

    • Philip says:

      05:38pm | 26/08/10

      JC I take my hat off to you . Here you are a blind faith Labor supporter and you have had the B***s to call it as it was , ” a crap job” done by the gang of 4 aka the kitchen cabinet,the survivors being Gillard and Swan who now propose to guide us through the next global crisis,BUT wait a minute,there is no money left and the lenders will want to forclose on the growing debt.But don’t worry, Swan has a brilliant plan which is to sell off all the naughty electorates that voted against Labor’s sitting members . No wonder he is Deputy Prime Minister !

    • neil says:

      06:31pm | 25/08/10

      Typical Rudd grandstanding, he has chosen his timing to create unfounded media speculation that Gillard needs his help again.

      Someone needs to sit him down and explain that he is yesterdays man, Kevin07 is all he will ever be, the rest of us have moved on.

    • fairsfair says:

      08:11pm | 25/08/10

      Thats the whole problem. He is never going to go away! If he gets a cabinet appointment we will all say, “well we saw that coming” and if he doesn’t well we will all say “well we saw that coming”. What is going on with the Labor party? He is not the leader, and last time I checked he wasn’t even on the front bench.

      I am just tired of all the crap. He is the Stefano Demira of Australian Politics - so are the days of our lives.

    • Philip Crowley says:

      09:37pm | 25/08/10

      Who the hell is Stefano Demira? I thought Berlesconi was the Italian Prime Minister!

    • Sherekahn says:

      10:17am | 26/08/10

      LEO, haven’t you left something out?
      “The former Prime Minister, turned backbencher, turned Labor election campaigner (and future Foreign Minister,) has arrived at the same time crucial talks with rural independents Tony Windsor, Rob Oakeshott and Queenslander Bob Katter are taking place at Parliament House.

    • fairsfair says:

      11:16am | 26/08/10

      Ha Ha. Stefano is a power hungry, manipulative millionaire who wreaks havoc on the people. In the four days I had off high school sick (four hours worth of television about ten years ago) he was brainwashing, plotting, conspiring and if I remember correctly even had a hand in ensuring another character remained posessed by the devil. He has been killed off a thousand times, but I flicked on to it the other day and yep - he is still there talking a lot but contributing nothing and being hated by everyone - even his own family.

      Rudd will still be here in many years to come and it is a little freaky the things that they have in common. 

      “Like PMs through Kirribillyhouse, so are the days of our lives”. This is a soap opera of rediculous proportion!

    • nosthow says:

      07:28pm | 25/08/10

      How sweet it is to see Abbott on TV being “interviewed” by the Independents and groveling his heart out. He is even stooping to new lows , painting himself out as a Climate Change believer and a Sensitive New Age Guy ! What he really is is a dud who lost an election - period !

    • neil says:

      09:34pm | 25/08/10

      But he will be our next primeminister, either in a couple of weeks or a year.

    • MarK says:

      10:31pm | 25/08/10

      What?

      You and Peter Lewis will got on well I would reckon

    • Peter says:

      06:44am | 26/08/10

      nosthow, I note from a previous comment that you are a retiree, as am I and I assume you lived through the 60’s. As such, it would have been prudent of you to heed the warnings about prolonged use of LSD and other mind altering substances, which clearly have affected your reasoning, as demonstrated by your blind loyalty to the dysfunctional Labor Party.
      Although I would like to see a coalition government, I’m not sure that at the moment that is a good move. For when the proverbial hits the fan later this year, as it will, whichever Party is in power will get the blame.

    • acotrel says:

      10:12pm | 26/08/10

      That’s a bit harsh!  In a minute he’ll be claiming he has mandate to bring back Workchoices!

    • Nicole says:

      08:20pm | 25/08/10

      I knew Rudd was up to something. I said to my husband this morning that he and Katter would set the cat amongst the pigeons and I was right. I just don’t know what it is yet, but I’m sure it’ll work it out. I’ve made a few predictions with this election, and they’ve come true. And my big one is - The sh!t is gunna hit the fan left, right and everywhere !
      Now, does anyone want me to give them a Psychic reading? I’ll even do it for free for my favourite Punchers…..

    • Glad says:

      09:37am | 26/08/10

      Nicole… that’s briliant

    • Jason CR says:

      08:28pm | 25/08/10

      Poor Kevin must lay awake at night and wish he went to a DD election earlier this year before voters worked him out….
      Then again you can’t buy courage.

    • RM52 says:

      08:54pm | 25/08/10

      From afar ( well veitnam anyway) this has to be the best theatre on the net for ever. we have journo’s that were too s**t scared too ask any serious Q’s during the campaign now saying ” well of course we knew it was gunna be a dead heat “, it wasn’t any of their non reporting that calls in to Q their profession abilility,it is really all the punters who refused to vote in a manner they find acceptable. now ole Krudd flies into Cantberra to do whatever & the same bloody muppets do not have the the wherewithall to see that if he thought it get more attention he would fall on the ground & kick his heels. all too easy for the Kruddster , if we are to have reform of the house of reps let it begin with the overpaid, non performing ,” i am a big load more important than the story ,journo’s” . when will they, or their bosses ever understand they are there to report,without bias, the story. they are not, & never have been part of the action,how can they retire to their beds ( after 6 or 900 Reds ) & honestly think , gosh i did a hell of a job there.tell ya wat, you want to see a real head kicking for both sides , try to have another election,also continue to push the media partisan b******* & see how quickly you are dis regarded. enough , this was not an election it was a parade of slogans , you ( the media )allowed it to happen, they people in the public forums had more guts than the talking heads. journo’s=joke , back to the bar boys & girls to stroke each other & convince the muppet ( or muppetess ) next to you how fantastic you are.

    • Tarzan says:

      09:04pm | 25/08/10

      Rudd the worst Prime Minister in Australian history. A calamity of errors and poor judgment costing us millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars and also has led to loss of life, property and small business.
      He should hide his face in shame!

    • Shaun says:

      12:20pm | 26/08/10

      Ahh Tarzan, I’ll preface this comment by saying I am a Liberal voter and hope the Coalition can negotiate a deal with the Independents to form a minority government for the next 3 years. HOWEVER - I am not blindly ignoring the fact that the stimulus package, despite containing a component of ‘waste’, assisted our country to defy global trends and avoid a recession. Waste is not generally excusable - but in this circumstance it will ADD to government revenue. The additional GST & income tax paid by the builders of the BER will be enormous, let alone the additional income tax revenue generated from keeping literally thousands of workers employed.

      Agreed that the insulation program was an epic disaster. But Mr Rudd himself didn’t kill anyone. It was poorly managed and unfortunately dodgy operators took advantage of this and did things the wrong way. That has caused the loss of life.

      Who were the ‘winners’ from the stimulus package? Average Australian’s earning less than $100K annually and Small business - especially builders, insulation companies & retailers who would have gone broke without the stimulus.

    • Sweet Choc says:

      09:35pm | 25/08/10

      Goes to show the caliber of this man. He doesn’t claim to be a Christian, or morally upright, or even a significant human. Yet his behaviour reflects all of these fine qualities. And they betrayed him because he offended a few half-witted union blokes and worked way too hard and long for the likes of some civil servants. “He is unpopular” they screamed and the rest is history. What a man, what a great PM. The Liberals did not win this election .... Labour lost the election the day they stabbed KRudd ... the Prime Minister.
      Go Kevin ... the amount of support you have from ordinary people will surely give you strength.

    • kringa says:

      09:21am | 26/08/10

      In which world are you living sweet choc. Rudd is a Jekyll and Hyde character, the public Rudd is not the real Rudd. He is a dangerous ego maniac.

    • ZSRenn says:

      01:23am | 26/08/10

      They don’t need KRudd

      Lady Jooles will do anything for power

      How does that song go?

      Ten lords a-leaping,
      Nine ladies dancing,
      Eight maids a-milking,
      Seven swans a-swimming,
      Six geese a-laying,
      Five golden rings,
      Four calling birds,
      Three French hens,
      Two turtle doves,
      And a partridge in a pear tree.

    • Reg says:

      08:29am | 26/08/10

      Can’t hear a bloody thing. Worse than Moofox and Geoff. If it’s too early or too late to get your brains in gear, then shut up. smile

      Kevin will fix it.

    • Geoff says:

      05:10am | 26/08/10

      At least with Rudd what you see is what you don’t get, not like that now you see me now you don’t assassin wth the long beak and big bum and a voice that not even a mother could love.

    • moofox says:

      06:54am | 26/08/10

      Remember when Kev. was omnipotent ,the indies were nothing, howard was discarded and we had 20/20 vision,those were the days my friends, now here we are governed by the minority from the backblocks. The rabbott and the hair are now compelled to resign for their failings, bring the new leaders Shorten and Hockey and let the people speak again

    • Jack says:

      09:42am | 26/08/10

      Onya Rudd, champion for the pensioners!

    • Old Clive says:

      09:43am | 26/08/10

      We owe the Irish and the Blonds an apology. I am a homophobic old age pensioner, I am you are we are Horsetraders, lets just have another election without preferential voting. Persophone where are you.

    • murray says:

      10:31am | 26/08/10

      I’ve said this over and over- Rudd, in spite of his obvious qualities (recognised by economists, diplomats and leaders abroad but not so much here)  was working himself to the bone- My guess is that he was so exhausted and dispirited by the rat****ing in Copenhagen, and the recalcitrant opposition to one of his key platforms (ETS) that he lost the will to go for double dissolution when he should have. In the end he shut the door of the PMs office and cabinet processes ground to a halt. This is key to his dumping by the party. Gillard was in a real bind- should she go against her own caucus and continue to support Rudd- risking her own position and a whipeout at the election?- or give in to the prolonged and relentless pleading of caucus to take the top job? When Rudds paranoia got the better of him and he sent Alistair Jordan, his chief of staff, to SPY on HER, she hit the roof and confronted him. She had a head of steam and went with her party and not the man she had stood by with no reward of trust. SHE IS NO BACKSTABBER! She did what she had to do and anyone in her position with any courage would have done the same. That’s just my reading of the inside story of how she came to be PM. All you Lib supporters are entitled to your opinion but I think throwing excrement at the wall and trusting that some will stick to it is not INFORMED opinion. Cheers…

    • Sweet Choc says:

      10:15pm | 26/08/10

      Come on murray, are you in denial? You sound so like Kim Yong Arbib, Kim Yong Shorten and their scheming cronies, even when the people have spoken. Labour voters have gone out in droves to vote in the Greens (including me). What happened to the Australian PM (Rudd) is despicable! Sure, we don’t elect the PM but we voted for the party knowing who the party leader was. Thus in some ways K Rudd was elected by the people when Labour came to power. This treachery is unlike leadership struggles with the parties when in oppersition. Imagine our (those who voted Labour in 2007) genuine disgust when some young, unelected ‘know-it-all’ individuals disregard voter sentiments and render our votes (2007) redundant by stabbing the PM while he was in office.

      The fact is greedy- unprofessional tradies caused the fiasco re insulation. Kev or the Labour party did not kill any one. The fact is Judas Gillard stabbed Rudd. That she blew her top at Rudd’s doubt of her loyalty is just an excuse!! The fact is she did not stand by Rudd! Many people were impressed by Gillard’s abilities; treachery was certainly not one of them. What a great PM she would have been at some time in the future. Now she has killed that possibility through treachery. Perhaps the master-minds where scheming this all along for their own future succession to power; with Gillard out of the way through this treacherous action!! Gillard has lost public support; no one wants a traitor to lead!! What a loss!

      All through our history we have had complaints about our PMs but no one assassinated the Australian PM while he was still in office. The number of complaints and dissatisfaction about Howard was nothing in comparison to what Rudd experienced. Lib caucus was wishing that Howard would go before the 2007 election ... yet they did not stab the PM. They stayed united even if it meant the possibility of losing an election. That was a class act, a decent human etiquette.  Labour is controlled by young ‘know-it-all’ faceless men behind the scene. These men have manipulated Gillard’s burning ambition to ‘move forward’ from the cold mines of Wales. Shorten is apparently waiting in the wings to lead the Labour party once this chaos settles. Liberals (if they win at all) did not win this election, labour lost it!! Treachery, disunity and lust for power at all cost have no place in modern Australia. Every vote should count and be taken seriously and not trampled on for selfish ends. Hope the lessons learnt in this election will not be forgotten by both the Libs and Lab. The people have spoken. Power to the people!! Viva Australia!

    • Jacks says:

      10:58am | 26/08/10

      Rudd needs to grow a set of stones.  What kind of red blooded man would still side with a person who stabbed him in the back???

      Keeping quiet for the national interest?  What a load of rot.  Keeping quite because he wants a ministry more like it.  Man up Kevin and tell Australia the real story.

    • Chris says:

      11:54am | 26/08/10

      It’s funny how the spin is now that Rudd “apparently” has good relationships with the 3 Independents. 8 weeks ago we were told by Labor that he didn’t have good relationships with anyone.  Labor is just a circus. And it now appears that it has a new side-show act of clowns to support it in Katter, Windsor and Oakshott. Add in that little Green from Melbourne and they’ve got the makings of a House of Horrors too.

    • tori says:

      12:34pm | 26/08/10

      Katter is a katastrophe- a walking time bomb he and Rudd will get along very very well indeed

    • DC says:

      01:34pm | 26/08/10

      If Tony Abbott messes this up, he’ll be the one for the next knifing.

      And I believe he will mess this up.

      Where’s Turnbull?

    • Sweet Choc says:

      10:38pm | 26/08/10

      Ahhh, Bull and Coste were too good for the current Libs who specialise in bs and spread fear amongst the people with phantom ‘invaders’ from afar. If Turnbull/Costello stood as leader of the Libs ... ahh forget the Greens ... I am going with Turnbull. What about the great Keating? Should there be another Keating in Labour .... forget the Bull or Coste… I am going with Keating (though very unlikely ... can never be another Keat). So for now, I am with you DC .. where’s Turnbull? Come on, Turnbull, save us from the current clowns within the Libs and Lab.

    • RealityCheck says:

      02:33pm | 26/08/10

      It beggers belief that someone who had to be replaced for the good of the nation has now been called upon to save it. Labor is interested in one thing only, POWER, that comes from their union heritage, it was conservatism that got us through the GFC not labor, labor spend more time looking inwards, watching for knives, the bloodletting has yet to begin, lets just go back to the polls and get a clear result. although 400,000+ votes more to the coalition should have decided it , I would have thought.

    • DC says:

      03:17pm | 26/08/10

      No one ever said he wasn’t important - they just said that he’d lost the way.

      Control freaks like Rudd will do that - especially when ministers aren’t allowed to do the jobs that they have been entrusted with.

      The same thing would have happened to Howard IF he’d won and not handed over to Costello after the 2007 election.

      That is - IF Costello had a set of balls.

    • Sensible says:

      03:04pm | 26/08/10

      How about having another election in view of the stalemate and installing Rudd as the Labor leader?

    • Peter says:

      03:11pm | 26/08/10

      Ahh Sensible, you like me can see Rudd would have won this. Alternatively Turnball would have won for the Liberals.. They both played their power games and they both lost… Now that’s Karma…

    • Ray, the White Pointer says:

      04:13pm | 26/08/10

      This is just craziness. To all those wanting a New Election, I think that the Anzacs, would be turning over in their Graves, every one of them. What would the World have thought of them if they just gave up and walked away? That is what you people are suggesting now.

      What made this Country Great is the Will to accept a new Challange and just simply make it work. We have many people from ALL 150 Seats that could just make this Country a World Leader, if only we can be smart enough to utilise them ALL.

      Funny enough the three Independants are ALL Bushies. This Country’s Greatness came from the Bush, not the Cities. Go think about and hang your heads in shame.

    • dennis poole says:

      05:40pm | 26/08/10

      Funny how ever Labor voter constantly praises Kevin from saving us from recession. Fact:  Australia was in a very strong stable condition as far as the economy was concerned due in part to three things not one. First A very strong,  robust economy with stringent rules and regulations set in motion by Paul Keating and further strengthened by Peter Costello, giving us a budget surplus,  Second: China’s insatiable appetite for our minerals and thirdly Kevin borrowing money like it was going out of use and giving as many people as possible a gift. The latter did not produce one extra job it only saved part time and casual jobs. What did Kevin’s bit do. put us in to massive debt which will cost us money to pay back and loss of income for policies that we should be adding to.

    • Sweet Choc says:

      11:04pm | 26/08/10

      Yes, the Libs did all these and more. Hurrah for the Howard era!! Who cares about infrastructure or schools or hospitals or long term national goals! As long as there is loads of money in the kitty (foolish taxpayers’ mony, GST, mineral wealth) hell with the ordinary bogans! What’s more, these bogans want a republic, How despicable! How can we ever expect to be standing on our own Aussie feet without a foreign Queen as our chief? Cheers for the Howard era that kept the rest of us in safety from the phantom ‘invaders’ who were coming in hordes.  Please bring back Howard and his xenophobic views; the views and practices that gave us our identity and strengthened our Christian values.  And most of all there was no treachery or stabbing of PMs either. Those were good old days! Hurrah!!

    • Philip Milward says:

      05:44pm | 26/08/10

      Mirror Mirror on the wall ~~ who was the best Prime Minister of them all ? Why you were dear Kevvie,You and you alone,now p**s off before you break the mirror !    Kevvie Rudd, a legend in his own mind !

    • REVERSE GEAR says:

      10:04am | 27/08/10

      ALP wont admit that they made a huge mistake in dumping Krudd its called the sin of pride!
      but look where the dumping got them nowhere and its so immature of them to blame KRudd and leaks when it was Gillard and her backers that moved against Krudd and not the otherway round!
      Gillard is too short sighted to be anothe term l PM well she should have thought that there would be a backlash for dumping Krudd but she was too dumb to anticipate that
      Gillard obvously doesnt think things through so its dangerous to hand government to her yet again as there may be even more stuff ups!
      Gillard should be dumped, ALP should put Krudd in again or Stephen Smith in well these two have some nous Gillard has none her only field of expertise was the now defunct work choices! Gilard and Bill Shorten and Karl Bitar and Mark Arbib brought the ALP backwards in this election so that was not moving forward at all! ALP are in reverse gear under Gillard and her backers!

    • good at dumping says:

      10:27am | 27/08/10

      Bill Shortern at it again suggestion Shorten should be employed as an executioner full time the MP for executions a new ministry in the bag, new title too!
      well Krudd then Langdon were dumped by your asinine efforts so who is next Bill?
      gee you have tickets on your self and you are excellent at dumping people too well what happened at the football one time Bill was that a dumping too?
      Bill dump your self you act like such a know it all and the truth is ALP went backwards in the federal election because of your dumping intervenetion you are such an amateur!

 

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