Images of the Egyptian revolution

Ben81 says:

02:05pm | 13/02/11

oooh, nice one.  *popcorn*

Shane From Melbourne says:

02:50pm | 13/02/11

China is doing quite well thank you. Why would it need a revolution? Of course capitalist-democracies like the United States and United Kingdom are economic basket cases and could probably do with a revolution or two…..

John A Neve says:

04:00pm | 13/02/11

Zac,
Perhaps you’d like to define “democracy” for me, as i’m not sure Egypt
has ever had it?

As to “revolutions” the peoples of the world are becoming sick of corrupt
politicians of all persuasions. Democracy does not exist in our world,
I am not sure it ever has.

malohi says:

06:18pm | 13/02/11

Lol, the religous can’t comprehend another person thinking that all religion is a fabrication. To them it must be either believe in thier religion or believe in another similar system. The fact that a person does not have to blindly ‘believe’ in any “religion” can’t sink in.

When challenged by someone saying they are athiests, they suddenly attatch their own indoctrined processes to this person, in that the other must of course believe in a system of atheism and adopt the dogma of the athiest.

Athiests must, like the religous, identify with eachother and worship something as dearly as the religous do god. This logic follows that without god athiests will attatch to dictators and communism and worship them like in North Korea etc, the veiled barb in Zac’s comment.

The indoctrination of the religious, having their hand held and questions “answered” all through life closes thier mind to the posssibility that someone just couldn’t care less about a “religious” system controlling thier life, and comments which ignorantly generalise like Zac’s (and of course my own ) are the result.

Richard says:

08:15pm | 13/02/11

Shane, you keep going on about China, but have you ever travelled there? Lived there? Studied its history?

It had some of the lowest living standards on earth throughout the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s when it was pursuing Marxist/Leninist left-wing economic ideology. It was only when Deng Xiaoping brought in capitialist, free-market reforms in the late 70’s onwards when things started to turn around.

Under socialism/communism, China was a basket-case, just like the US and UK have been becoming thanks to left-wing/socialist big-government style policies in recent decades.

But it is still a dictatorship and it is still unstable. Most commentators suggest that China needs to grow economically at at least 8% per year just to stave off massive social unrest. Not the most stable system you would have to admit, especially for a guy who often rails against the necessity for modern economies to keep growing at all, let alone growing at the rapid pace of 8% per year!

(You have often been seen posting on these forums about the evil of perpetual growth in a finite world. How do you reconcile that with your admiration for a regime which MUST grow at no less than 8% per year just to retain their grip on power?)

Dave-o says:

11:23pm | 13/02/11

Yes, its all true, atheists love being subjugated by egotistical megalomaniacs. They also like lies, propaganda and hypocrisy. Yes, those lazy, godless atheists are useless.

Shane From Melbourne says:

08:55am | 14/02/11

@Richard- I don’t “admire” China itself- but I do admire their political, economic and diplomatic strategies towards Great Power Dominance. They have much the same problems as the west- access to resources, growing middle class, access to markets, ageing population etc - They just play the game a bit better than the west. They certainly wouldn’t let themselves be screwed over by Wall St.

Zac de Spudnut says:

09:30am | 14/02/11

malohi,

Lol, the religous can’t comprehend another person thinking that all religion is a fabrication. To them it must be either believe in thier religion or believe in another similar system.>>>

After bashing Christianity day and day out, it should be confronting to find Atheism is a belief system and a religion…..

“Atheism is [the inmate’s] religion, and the group that he wanted to start was religious in nature even though it expressly rejects a belief in a supreme being,” the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals said.

The Supreme Court has said a religion need not be based on a belief in the existence of a supreme being. In the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins, the court described “secular humanism” as a religion.

A federal court of appeals ruled yesterday Wisconsin prison officials violated an inmate’s rights because they did not treat atheism as a religion.

Ref:  Court rules atheism a religion

“Legally atheism counts as a religion” – John Perkins, Atheist Foundation of Australia *

“THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart after being refused permission to put atheist advertising on buses”.*

* The Age, January 29, 2009

Contemporary Western Atheism unquestionably has six of the seven dimensions of religion set forth by Smart, and the remaining dimension, ritual, has also started to develop. Thus it’s fallacious to assert, “Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair colour”. Perhaps a better analogy would be calling a shaved head a “hairstyle”. Other than the denial of the divine, there is little difference between Atheism and other worldviews typically labelled as religions.

Atheism shouldn’t be taught or enforced in settings where other religions are banned and shouldn’t be favoured by laws which imply a religiously neutral government.

For more on this read: Atheism: A religion

http://creation.com/atheism-a-religion

This logic follows that without god athiests will attatch to dictators and communism and worship them like in North Korea etc, the veiled barb in Zac’s comment.>>>

Seems to Atheists are only interested in the history of Christians. That too something that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago. But we are not allowed to talk about the actions of Atheists that too just 50 or 60 years ago. History tells me Atheists have been the worst killers in history, well the mountains and mountains of skeletons tell me that. Historians say Atheists through history have killed more than 100 million people (I would say any way around 250 to 300 million people) to create Atheistic utopia around the world, yes in our life time.

Check this out…... bit of Atheistic history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvODT8bBUxA

James1 says:

11:57am | 14/02/11

Lets all pretend that we believe in god so that Zac stops with his propagandising.  It is so boring, and quotes from the same internet conspiracy nutjobs do not get more believable with repetition.

Lets just clear this little piece of rubbish up though.  I am an atheist, and I love democracy.  It gives me the freedom to be religious, or to not be religious.  It gives me the freedom to pursue my (lack of) beliefs in whatever way I see fit, so long as it sits within the law.  It allows me to accept that others disagree with me (like Zac does), and still allows me and those who disagree with me to participate meaningfully in the political process.  I don’t think you will find many atheists that disagree with me on that, Zac.

Now I am sure that, if given the chance, the likes of Zac would rather see atheists removed from society - what other agenda would he be pursuing in his constant endeavours to paint all atheists as anti-democratic mass murderers?  What else would he be trying to achieve than our complete removal from society?  Zac claims to be accepting of the views of others, but his posts and their content make it clear he is lying.

Why can’t you just accept that we disagree on the existence of your god, but agree that democracy is positive, Zac?  What is your agenda?

Davo says:

07:14am | 14/02/11

“where will the egyptian revolution lead?”
Another war I would imagine.
Do we send our sons and daughters to fight for Israel?