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Bikinis on Top says:

12:40pm | 12/04/11

Suicide depressions are mentall illnesses that can last for yearsand seem to dominate your life with its eternal focus on suicide.
.Within a suicide depression, everything seems to be short term only as you feel suicide is just around the corner any time.
Eventually your mind gets sick of “playing suicide”  and suicide depressions are like “boils” as they eventually “burst “.
They vanish or diminish in importance even if only for short whiles.

bikinis on top says:

12:46pm | 12/04/11

whats the difference between ordinary life and a suidide depression?Your mood seems much lower and once your mood is below a certain point, you enter the danger zone where you get suicide depression with low mood all the time.Then the world seems temporary only and only short term projects seem possible.
Once you take antidepressants for a long time, your mood seems to get only of the danger zone and back to close to normal.

Kika says:

01:25pm | 12/04/11

I think this is a great idea. I remember when I was feeling depressed and was diagnosed with severe depression by my doctor & counsellor I was trawling the internet for help. Beyond Blue is good, but for ‘help’ they only give ambiguous leads to counsellors and psychologists. But that’s not helpful if you are feeling too down or depressed to think about talking and organising appointments. I also agree that we should have a suicide toll. Nobody likes talking about suicide but it’s real and well all have to own it, like we own the road toll.

Chris Dubbya says:

01:52pm | 12/04/11

Brilliant!! Also helps for people, apart from the un-comfort factor, that have a hearing problem via the phone.

Guylian says:

01:53pm | 12/04/11

This is a great way to help people who are suicidal but don’t want to be overheard talking about it on the phone. I hope this trial is made permanent.

Matty says:

02:17pm | 12/04/11

Amazing work, really!

There are similar services by Kids Helpline which has online services for young people up to 24.

However there has really been a void in services for young adults 25 and up, who as just as internet savy and find it harder to express their emotions on a phone line - which could be in itself a daunting experience for the highly anxious.

Hope the trial is successful.

Interested observer says:

02:23pm | 12/04/11

Depression and loneliness are truly terrible to the sufferer.  Chat rooms staffed by professionals can help and advise.  This is far better than the support from family and friends who can only suggest options without the background to truly guide towards a recovery. Medication can be a crutch or an addition.  This is only part of the solution however - support groups are surely the next step on the way to a full and active social life.

Slick says:

03:04pm | 12/04/11

If you are depressed to the point of suicide, you don’t want to talk about it, you don’t want someone telling you the things you want to hear, you just want to end it, that’s the only way you can feel better.
I would be interested in the number of suicides that have opened up to anyone beforehand. Most of the time you don’t even know that person is depressed. Like Luc, they appear fine to friends and family, until the day they are no longer alive, or in hospital having their stomach pumped and everyone is like “oh why would you do this?” Most of the time you can’t talk about it, because it is a feeling, not something that can really be explained to someone who doesnt know what it feels like. Plus the fact that you feel like crap anyway means that you are sure they won’t/can’t understand or believe you.
I do hope this program helps people, but I still think that there is very little that can be done to stop suicide as most people who are going to do it, won’t talk about it. Hopefully this will help stop people getting to that stage though, as if you can get to them before they hit rock bottom, there is a better chance of stopping them getting there at all.

PJ says:

03:09pm | 12/04/11

The Punch is pathetic for not publishing everyone’s contributions.  If it doesn’t accord with their ‘agenda’ it doesn’t get published.

Survivor says:

03:50pm | 12/04/11

I love this. At one of the lowest points of my life, I tried calling lifeline. After 30 or so minutes on hold, waiting to talk to someone, I gave up. The scars I have speak for themselves. I just wish someone had answered.

Jim says:

07:03pm | 12/04/11

Great idea taking it online…but how long before some goose from 4chan or similar hacks in and gives someone some really, really bad advice?

michael j says:

08:34pm | 12/04/11

Within the last month or so scientist re-portly found the gene that causes violence, apparently it is only activated by experiences endured during childhood,,,,IT won’t be long before a Gene is found to explain why some people are more likely to suicide then others but a lot has to do with a persons surroundings where they may live on the edge for years and something very minor tips them over,, Silence is the worst option,,your caption relates mainly to depressive type suicide ,,, with other forms of Mental Illness,say Thought Insertion it is hard for a to talk to any one about it because they may fear the consequences of having someone else involved
this condition is not the same/or related to hearing voices which if not severe
is more easily treatable,,Yes i have often longed for a more reportable option
for suicide perhaps not on the nightly news like the road,,,perhaps something like an easily assessable coroners page to let society know the state of things,,Having a hotline,n,talking to someone is al-right for some/many i suppose ,,but for some people/conditions it doesn’t work like that,,,,,
Suicide is something must have touched everyone in this country by now,,
or as they say you know someone ,who’s knows someone,,,,
Yeah well have a good day ,n, all the best to ya,,,,,,,,,,,,

Meghan says:

09:05pm | 12/04/11

This is a GREAT initiative! Kudos to Lifeline!

Given funding shortages and the raw deal that mental health funding gets, there’s no doubt the future of mental health service provision will include online services. Another online service that has been launched with little media attention is http://www.mindscreen.com.au. It is run by a private Australian company and costs but it helps your doc assess you more quickly and accurately. My friend used it and said her doc changed her diagnosis based on how she answered the questions. I haven’t used it myself as I’m well at the moment but she raved about it.

Please note, the MH budget is 7% of national health budget, but the burden of MH on the health system is more like 14%. Until that is fixed, more people in acute distress will rely on volunteer orgs like Lifeline. With more funding, more people will gethelp earlier and hopefully the demand for Lifeline services will drop. remember that Lifeline gets a fraction of the funding of beyondblue but are at the coal face dealing with real people rather than just sticking up promotional billboards everywhere. And Lifeline is staffed by volunteers who do their best. Of course there are going to be times when the volunteer is not up to scratch. Like the callers they too are human! Great job Lifeline and best of luck with this great initiative.

Magentamittens says:

08:37am | 13/04/11

Best idea I’ve heard in a long time! Let’s hope you get the funding to make it permanent, even if it saves one life it’s worth it. Great work again from lifeline.

Anna says:

09:10am | 13/04/11

This is an excellent idea. Often with people living with their families or sharing households, there’s no privacy to call Lifeline. I’ve been in a situation where I needed to use the Lifeline phone service but was unable to due to lack of privacy. This will give more epeople access to the service and will be a much more appropriate medium for young people. Congratulations on this excellent initiative.

Former Cutter says:

01:33am | 15/04/11

Antidepressants are often overprescribed and useless as they do not cure depression alone. A combination of medication and psychotherapy is the key. Antidepressants are only really useful if you’re in such a state that you have trouble functioning day to day tasks such as hygiene, work and getting out of bed. The whole purpose of antidepressant medication is to improve your mood. The common misconception is that it will not take your problems away. As a former self-harmer it took years to realise this and for my “brick wall” to finally collapse and begin talking about my issues. I have to live with my scars for the rest of my life as well as the humiliation but i’m getting there. I honestly thought I would never get any better and that I would end up killing myself. Online chat is a great idea, it should be a permanent addition to the Lifeline service as often it is engaged at peak periods. Depression and even self-harming is not attention seeking, it is a cry for help and it is anger turned inwards. Don’t feel you’re alone because you are not and as with any other profession, you need to find the right person for you to talk to as just like medication there is no one fits all approach. That has been my experience with my therapy and mental health.

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