Everyone’s talking about poker machines these days. Our politicians and our newspapers, our clubs and pubs; everyone has an opinion on what we should and shouldn’t do with regards to the pokies. But they’re talking about numbers and policies, votes and strategies and campaigns.

Illustration: Warren Brown

They’re not talking about the people who have been hurt, who are hurting still. People like me.

When I was 24 years old, I had the world on a string. Life was mine for the taking. I was engaged to be married and surrounded by fantastic friends; I had my university degree framed on the wall, a great job and excellent prospects. But by the time I turned 25, life as I knew it was over. I was addicted to poker machines.

It started innocently enough: dinner with my fiancee’s family at the local pub. Afterwards, they decided to pop next door to the gaming room, so I tagged along. I’d never played the pokies; this was 1995 and they’d only reached Victoria a few years before. I’d never been interested. But I found myself in that room, and decided to give it a go.

We played for a couple of hours, and you know what? It was fun. I was with people I knew, trying something different, and when the machines did pay out it was exciting. We finished the evening in front, not by much, but enough to cover the cost of dinner.

So far, so good. But even then, there was a warning sign that I missed… one thing I remember all too clearly is that I didn’t want to leave. If only I’d known what that meant.

A week or so later, I was on my lunch break. I worked in IT (still do, in fact) and after spending the morning at my desk, decided to walk into the city for some lunch. On the way, I passed a pokies venue, and stopped.

Why not?, I thought. Just a bit of fun. And in I went. When I walked out hours later, I had missed two meetings and lost $200. I told no one.

The next day, I was back there again. And the next.

For me, that’s all it took. I threw my life away a day at a time, threw my savings away, my relationship, my friends, everything I had, because I could not stop playing the pokies. I had everything to live for, but none of that mattered a damn.

I kept the secret, kept it so well that it was three years before the lie I was living was exposed. In three years, I blew close to $100,000 on poker machines.

I still can’t explain how it happened, but something in them spoke to me. I would lie awake at night with poker machine music running through my head. When I wasn’t playing, I was thinking about playing. I didn’t want to go on, in fact I was desperate to stop… but none of that counted for a damn thing.

There were days when I would play before work, again at lunchtime and then drop in for a quick $50 on the way home. I would see the same people in the same venues, day in, day out. We recognised each other, fleeting eye contact or a brief nod, but we never acknowledged each other. We weren’t there to be social. We were feeding our demons.

No matter how much I wanted to stop, and believe me I wanted to stop… most days I couldn’t relax until I was sitting at the machine, feeding my money in. Then everything else would fall away, and my world would shrink to just me and the machine. That was, paradoxically, the only time I felt in control.

Don’t ever doubt the seriousness of this addiction. I have never been a gambler, and gambling in general still doesn’t interest me. But at the depths of my addiction, I found myself sitting in my lounge room, trying to decide between a rope and a length of hose over the exhaust pipe. That was what my life had become; choosing which way to end it.

Yet I survived… and eventually, I did break away. By then, I had lost everything and everyone; I thought that was rock bottom. That is until two years later, when I relapsed and came dangerously close to losing the life I was struggling to rebuild. That was my last relapse; I haven’t played since.

I hear people talk about poker machine addicts, and they talk about the poor, the stupid, the lazy. I would argue that I was none of these. But poker machines don’t discriminate; anyone can fall under their spell. That’s the way they’re designed, and you’ll never know unless you play.

And for many, that’s already too late.

Read more from Tom on his blog www.cyenne.com.

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    • Daniel says:

      02:21pm | 18/01/12

      Big business will always cry poor when a policy threatens their bottom line no matter how reasonable, fair & affordable a reform may be. It is so predictable. Then they fund huge budget corporate propaganda campaigns that trick the stupid and / or ignorant into thinking that their interests are aligned with those of the corporate CEOs who might stand to lose a little bit of income. By the way, nothing I have said here is anti-business or anti-capitalism so please don’t try to call me a lefty or a communist. The world is more complex than that over-simplification would imply

    • Bomb78 says:

      03:18pm | 18/01/12

      And this problem is more complex than the simple solution of mandatory precommitment.
      Your argument is valid when talking about the Woolworths of the world, but what about the little surf club with 20 machines? They are hardly big business, and its these operators that will suffer most from mandatory precommitment. In actual fact, given the expense involved in changing machines over, you will probably find a greater concentration of pokies in the hands of the big corporate operators.
      Taking steps to slow the play speed, lower the maximum spin amount and remove ATM’s from pokie venues all have merit - but please, if I want to throw an extra $20 on after I’ve gone through the first $20, that’s my business, not Big Brother’s.
      And the advertising campaign from the pubs and clubs owes everything to the unions work choices campaign in 2007 - best political campaign in this country’s history, and it continues to show the way for lobby groups with deep pockets how to get their message across successfully. The unions were able to protect their business model, the mining industry did much the same thing, and so far the gambling industry is also succeeding.

    • Andrew says:

      09:36am | 19/01/12

      bomb78 if you only want to play small amounts of $20 you wouldn’t be affected by precommitment at all. It’s only for high impact machines, ie dollar machines.

    • Daniel says:

      11:34am | 19/01/12

      Bomb78 I never even said whether or not I agree with pre-commitment. I am just making a point that industries dominated by big business (I’m using this term loosely to describe any industry where a business, or an association of businesses, become large enought to fund lobbies & think-tanks in order to change the rules in which they operate under) will ALWAYS cry poor when a new or proposed reform has any potential to reduce their own profits regardless of how fair/unfair, affordable/unaffordable sustainable/unsustainable, etc. You are right to say that unions can do this too, & it was also predictable that they ould have opposed WC in the 2007 election, I’m not sure they are the idols of all lobbiests though, I think that honour would go to the Fossil Fuel Industry who cunningly fund all kinds of lobbies, think tanks & websites that pretend to be independent scientific research centres. At least the unions were not trying to hide who they really were.

    • Ando says:

      02:26pm | 18/01/12

      I don think anyone doubts there are issues to be addressed in regards to pokies . However, you wanted to give up ,in this moment of clarity , wouldn’t a voluntary pre- commitment allow you to set boundaries on yourself? If not then why would a mandatory per-commitment where you could nominate any limit you wish be any different?

    • Cobbler says:

      12:53pm | 19/01/12

      The answer to this is so obvious it begs the question that it needs to be asked.  Problem pokie players no they have a problem and don’t want to spend all their money.  Before they start playing if they can limit their spending while they are rational they will set a realistic limit (say $20-$50).  Once the demon takes over they have no choice but to stop.  Once they leave the venue their rational mind will take over before they feed it some-way/somewhere else.

    • Ando says:

      03:34pm | 19/01/12

      Cobbler,
      Doesn’t answer my question.
      As you suggest , they know they have a problem and when away from the bright lights they can set a rational limit. So a voluntary system would be just as useful in this moment of clarity as setting a mandatory limit of your choice.

    • Cobbler says:

      04:32pm | 19/01/12

      @Ando - How would a voluntary pre-commitment technology cost any less than mandatory?  If it’s voluntary, what stops people from throwing the card in the bin and going to another machine when the addiction takes hold?  Or is there a different type of voluntary that makes you do something you no longer want to do? (i.e stop gambling at an appropriate level).

    • melissa says:

      02:28pm | 18/01/12

      If only the clubs had a heart AND wait for it… brains. There are 7 million other ways to get the community involved in helping keep the funds coming in.

      I am happy you have found an exit. I am 21 years of age, still in uni and I hope to never touch one of those dodgy life-ruining machines.

    • Marc says:

      03:38pm | 18/01/12

      The machines don’t ruin lives, people ruin their own lives.

    • nihonin says:

      04:26pm | 18/01/12

      Exactly Marc, the cop out is the easiest way, rather than say, it’s my problem or fault and maybe I should do something about it.  Proportioning blame away from yourself is far too easy these days, thanks to all the ‘there there’ feeling policies introduced by various governments.

    • Bertrand says:

      05:48pm | 18/01/12

      Well the machines are designed with the aid of psychologists who know how to manipulate game-play in order to trigger reward mechanisms in the brain that are known to cause addictive behaviours in some people.

      Technically pokie addicts aren’t addicted to the pokies they are addicted to the rush of endorphins and other feel-good hormones that are released when they play the pokies.

      So to blame people only and not the machines is disingenuous. The machines are specifically designed to be addictive.

    • RB says:

      01:36pm | 19/01/12

      + 1 Bertrand. Absolutely hit the nail on the head. Anybody who doesn’t think these things are deliberately engineered to prey on certain individual’s psychology is plain wrong. The problem is that you don’t know if you have a problem and whether you fall into that “addicted” category until you try them. A lot of what the author said in this piece I could apply to my own circumstances so I know exactly how it feels. Like him, I stopped playing and fessed up to my wife about 18 months ago. Luckily I have a good job and income which has given me the chance to right my wrongs, at least financially. I haven’t been back since and have no intention to. I had no other form of gambling addiction. The casino didn’t interest me and I only had a passing interest in the horses. These things are completely different. I probably could go to a casino or have a punt on the nags without any repercussions but I don’t. I’ve banned myself from all forms of gambling. I don’t even buy so much as a lottery ticket anymore and haven’t wasted a single penny since the day I admitted I hit rock bottom. It gets easier with each passing day but the demon is always there and the biggest trap is complacency. I can’t gamble ever again. I’ve told myself that and resigned myself to the fact, and do you know what, I don’t miss it all.

    • Rocksteady says:

      02:29pm | 18/01/12

      Well it’s good to see yet another vested lobby group saving themselves billions of dollars by spending a few million with a concentrated ad campaign.

      I can see this working out good for Australia.

    • jade (the other one) says:

      02:34pm | 18/01/12

      So because you were unable to control yourself, everyone should be treated like naughty little children?

      I feel bad for you, but ever more restrictive legislation to help protect people from themselves is not the way to resolve the issue.

      The fact is that the majority of Australians are capable of enjoying things in moderation. They do not have a demon of addiction to feed. By placing restrictions on their enjoyment of perfectly innocent activities because you have a problem, you lose a lot of the people who would otherwise be sympathetic to your situation.

      I would suggest that were there less shame in addiction, people would feel much more comfortable advising family and friends that they have a problem, and that they need help in controlling it.

    • James1 says:

      03:04pm | 18/01/12

      You make good points, but I fail to see how they relate to pokies.  Surely no one actually enjoys pressing a button that takes your money over and over again…

      I mean really, after what the author has described, I am thoroughly convinced he would have benefited more from being addicted to crack than to pokies.  At least the crack gives you something in exchange for your money.

    • Vince says:

      03:16pm | 18/01/12

      It’s not as safe as you think.  That is the point.  Have a freakin heart.

    • Economist says:

      03:57pm | 18/01/12

      I’m always curious about the give us our freedom brigade when it comes to pokies and gambling and not wanting restrictions. Ask yourself how did we arrive at this situation? The problem is accessibility.

      It was through lobbying by business to relax previous restrictions and the fact that governments became addicted to the taxes. First we only had the federal Casino in Hobart, but then this was relaxed. Then pokies were allowed in clubs, but this had to be extended to pubs to make it fair for them, then operating hours have changed where clubs can operate around 20 hours a day, then zoning laws changed to allow these gambling dens in suburbs, and in city centres near workplaces, then the machines themselves evolved so that in some locations you can bet $10 every 3.5 seconds.  Why stop there. If Woolies want to make a fortune, put them in malls. Heres another idea, double or nothing for grocery purchases. You’re at the check out, you have a choice between paying the price or going double or nothing. If you choose DoN then your locked in you have to accept the decision, no returning any items you can’t afford. \

      The next problem is the net and one of the few reasons this hasn’t necessarily taken off as much as the pokies themselves is trust in the site. If most are overseas they’re likely to be scams. That’s why the locals want to offer this service.

      After all aren’t we only the second worst gambling nation? Lets go for broke.

    • jf says:

      04:23pm | 18/01/12

      James1 says:04:04pm | 18/01/12

      “At least the crack gives you something in exchange for your money.”

      The pokies are clearly giving people something for their money or they wouldn’t play them. Unlike crack, moderate punting isn’t necessarily bad for you.

    • jf says:

      04:25pm | 18/01/12

      Economist says:04:57pm | 18/01/12

      “After all aren’t we only the second worst gambling nation? Lets go for broke.”

      I don’t know the detail, but I’m confident that there is more gambling in Australia than in North Korea or Iran.

    • PW says:

      07:49pm | 18/01/12

      The majority of Australians are not addicted to heroin, and manage to get through their lives quite adequately without it.

      If for some reason I wish to get myself a rampaging heroin addiction, I can’t, because it is illegal and I am a law abiding citizen. A restriction is being placed on me to supposedly benefit those who cannot abstain of their own accord.

      How are pokies any different?

    • sid says:

      02:34pm | 18/01/12

      As a woolworths share holder and rugby league fan I am totally opposed to the ban of poker machines or the reduction or precommitment schemes. It certainly would mean a reduction of value of my share holdings and if as what the commentators say a reduction in th support and growth of rugby league.

    • melissa says:

      03:15pm | 18/01/12

      Well judging by your comment, we all might as well go into recluse. The world is ENDING!!!!

    • Kate says:

      03:53pm | 18/01/12

      If rugby relies on the profits of gambling addicts to survive, it’s a bit of a shit sport then eh?

    • jf says:

      04:26pm | 18/01/12

      Kate says:04:53pm | 18/01/12

      “If rugby relies on the profits of gambling addicts to survive, it’s a bit of a shit sport then eh?”

      Rugby doesn’t. Grass roots rugby league seems to though.

    • james says:

      10:16am | 19/01/12

      Western Australia is doing just fine without the disgusting stain of pokies.

    • Tim says:

      02:48pm | 18/01/12

      What’s your solution then?

      Should we all be punished because a tiny minortiy of people can’t control themselves?

      I don’t think anyone doubts there is a problem, it’s just the best way to deal with it without destroying an entire industry because of a few people without self control.

      As I said in the open thread today, I think that perhaps we should go back to coin only machines and a larger amount spent on providing gambling services for addicts.

    • AFR says:

      03:07pm | 18/01/12

      Not sure about coins, but there are a heap of restrictions that can be placed without remotely affecting 95% of players. For example, max $1 per spin, slowing down reels etc. My personal one is to ban “table service” to machines, and that includes all the free food and coffees etc. Pre-committment seems a bit clumsy.

    • Vince says:

      03:22pm | 18/01/12

      Tim, a tiny minority of people die in car crashes but we still have loads of safety regulations etc etc etc. to keep them as safe as possible.

    • Tim says:

      04:41pm | 18/01/12

      Vince,
      Get back to me when a poker machine directly kills someone.

    • Mahhrat says:

      07:47pm | 18/01/12

      @Tim:

      Should I be prevented from doing 140 up a highway because a few people can’t learn to control a car appropriately?

      Should I be prevented from taking heroin because some people can’t control their addictions / can’t fund their addiction?

      Should I… well, you get the idea.

      The point is, the addiction the OP suffered does not only affect him.  It takes food from mouths, quite literally.  Watched it happen.

      Should a child be denied a loving parent just so so you can “act responsibly?”

      All things in balance.  There is no balance in poker machines.  They are everything wrong with modern marketing and addictive behaviour research.  They target and profit from the weak and vulnerable.  They should be banned on principle.

    • Tim says:

      06:50pm | 19/01/12

      Mahhrat,
      Did you even read my response to Vince?

    • Gratuitous Adviser says:

      02:51pm | 18/01/12

      You nailed it in one.  Out of all this the pub and club industry (not members) and vested interests (Woolworths in particular) show the depths of moral decay that they will stoop to in support of this legal evil.  In retribution, I can only hope that one of their sons and daughters suffer as you and your family have suffered, along with any politician that voted in support of these rotten damn things in the first place.  Thinking about it, I wonder how many politicians of the past now recognise that while they may have made an admirable contribution during their time, if they were a contributor to the passing of the original poker machine acceptance legislation then, for my part, they should now hang their head in shame.  Funny that none (State Pollies) have stepped forward to state their reasons for their support of the original legislation. 

      Wilkie has done a great service to the nation by championing this cause and will be remembered for his efforts.

    • Against the Man says:

      07:17pm | 18/01/12

      Wilkie will be remembered as a putz who got taken for a ride by Gillard.

    • Mahhrat says:

      07:10am | 19/01/12

      @AtM: Perhaps he lost the “game”, but doesn’t it strike you as odd that the “game” exists at all?

    • Tubesteak says:

      02:54pm | 18/01/12

      Pokies don’t make you pay. They don’t hold any sway over you. It’s not their fault or anything they do

      Personally I find them boring and inane. When I win things I like it to be through the ruthless application of skill, cunning, intelligence and guile. Pokies are just luck. No talent required. Just sitting there hoping for lazy money to fall in your lap. I fail to see the interest

    • fairsfair says:

      04:40pm | 18/01/12

      I agree Tubes and I also take issue with a comment above regarding “accessibility”. I couldn’t tell you the last time I just happened to run into a poker machine. I know they exist, but I think the last time I saw one would have maybe been 2007. I don’t at all feel like they are rammed down my neck.

      I don’t get the attraction and quite honestly, I don’t know anyone who does. So how in the hell do people let some stupid yammering lights machine ruin their lives overnight?

    • PW says:

      08:03pm | 18/01/12

      @fairsfair

      How do some people manage to get themselves addicted to meth? After all it makes your teeth fall out and makes scabs grow on your face. Or heroin, which makes people steal from their own mothers. Getting addicted to pokies likewise ruins your life. I don’t know why people take such courses in their lives, but some do. They are all addictions that get completely out of control. It is not a good look for our Governments and supposedly reputable businesses to be profiting from such misery.

    • Cobbler says:

      04:41pm | 19/01/12

      @Tubesteak and Fairsfair - Well if you guys don’t believe in pokie addiction then it mustn’t be true!  I’ve been mislead and that whole ‘the earth is round’ thing is clearly been cooked up by the left wing to make me stop believing in god.  thanks for educating me.

    • G says:

      02:59pm | 18/01/12

      Young people these days should be more worried about Sports Betting. I know plenty of guys, only a few years out of school, who have already blown THOUSANDS of dollars from betting on football, cricket, tennis, basketball, anything.
      This country has a serious gambling problem. The most serious in the world, in fact. Regulating pokies is only the first step.

    • Gratuitous Adviser says:

      06:37am | 19/01/12

      To true blue.  Another little social time bomb awaiting future generations of Australians.  What the various betting companies will do is sponsor a heart lung machine or provide the oranges for some netball team. That will then give them protection from good government policy and leadership (we do have leadership.  The leading gambling nation in the world times 2).

    • Ella says:

      09:11am | 19/01/12

      that and online poker

    • dancan says:

      03:00pm | 18/01/12

      I empathise with you Tom I really do, but do I sympathise?  No I don’t. 

      Like you I’d have what could be called an addictive personality, something which got me in trouble to the tune of $25,000 and was still growing at the time.  Now that doesn’t sound like a lot but when you’re working a crap job at target and your yearly salary is less than 18,000 it’s a lot.  It was when I reached a point where everything was falling apart, I couldn’t afford food and could only afford rent by moving different debt around that I realised what was happening.  But do I blame anyone?  No.  It was my choice, and like you I look back now and see all the tell tale signs and habits in my behaviour, and I learnt a very valuable life lesson from that which I’m still paying for, but that’s my burden to bare and lesson learnt.  Do I think that casino’s and credit cards should have government imposed limits because I couldn’t control my impulses?  Hell no.

      In the end if it wasn’t gambling and excessive credit card use that got me it would have been something else.  People (like me) have to learn that there are consequences for their actions.  I look back at that time now and I don’t regret it instead I see it as a good thing and a lesson that I will carry for the rest of my life.

      In short dictating the lives of other people because of actions that I took is wrong.

    • Bitten says:

      03:29pm | 18/01/12

      Yeah, pretty much this.

      Anyone can make a mistake. Getting yourself out of one or handling the consequences of it is one of the few genuinely character-building opportunities anyone will ever have. If you stop yourself from doing something that you know is bad for you or your family or whatever, that is YOU taking control and showing the world and yourself that you have that strength and you are worthy and capable of great things because of your willingness to make good choices. If someone else stops you from doing whatever it is, by whatever means but for example by banning pokies or alcohol or McDonalds, then YOU as a peron haven’t achieved a damn thing.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      04:04pm | 18/01/12

      By that same logic, cigarettes should not be regulated, nor alcohol, nor pornography. All of these are examples of products or services that make many people very happy, but cause great damage to a few. Because of the latter problem, governments around the world find cause to regulate or prohibit them. How are poker machines (essentially revenue collection devices aimed at the chronically bored) different?

    • jf says:

      04:29pm | 18/01/12

      Scotchfinger says:05:04pm | 18/01/12

      “By that same logic, cigarettes should not be regulated, nor alcohol, nor pornography.”

      None of these are available to children. Just like gambling.

    • Michael says:

      07:53am | 19/01/12

      Dancan, you are the voice of reason!

      This debate is quite simple really, it comes down to your views on personal responsibility. Either you believe that you can control your own life, or you believe that others (namely, government) should control it for you.

    • Elphaba says:

      03:14pm | 18/01/12

      You’ve talked about your problems, but not offered any solutions.

      And thats just it - they’re your problems.  If you want to blow $100K on poker machines, go for it. It’s not my business, and it doesn’t affect me.  I’m gettting tired of the government having to legislate every single little thing because people like you can’t hold your water.

      As Tim says, it would seem to me that a really simple solution would be offering coin-only machines and making sure that bar staff do not change notes for coins.  If some idiot wants to bring $1000 in $1 coins, go for it.  That person is obviously committed to their habit.

      Nick Xenophon stating that bingo was encouraging the new generationof gamblers was the last straw for me.  Bugger off with the nanny state and if people want to feed their rent/mortgage repayments into a poker machine, go your hardest.  Meh.  Bigger things to worry about…

    • Bingo Bitch says:

      04:59pm | 18/01/12

      Has Nick Xenophon been to bingo lately?

      I call the bingo numbers at a club, and I can honestly say the ones suffering dimentia far outnumber any “new” gamblers!

      As for the pre-commitment “licence to punt” yes I work in the industry, so some might say I have a vested interest… but I honestly can’t see how it’ll help! What is there to stop anyone setting their limit at a million dollars? Nothing. It will cost a fortune to set up and won’t achieve anything.

    • TheRealDave says:

      03:20pm | 18/01/12

      Hang on Tom….you didn’t think you were stupid? Poor and lqazy - I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. But you were stupid. Addicts have no-one to blame except their own stupidity.

      Zero sympathy to you and your ilk Tom. Zero. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

      We need MORE not less pokies. MORE forms of legal gambling. And While we are at it - MORE Speed and Red Light cameras. Because they are put in place for the morons as well. Take every last cent off these morons and give it away to more deserving members of the community via local grants and programmes.

    • Al says:

      04:42pm | 18/01/12

      “Zero sympathy to you and your ilk Tom. Zero. Zip. Zilch. Nada.”

      I sit here shaking my at these comments.
      Are we aware of what the word ‘addiction’ actually means?

      We don’t choose to become addicted to things and it’s not a simple case of being able to ‘harden up’ and fly straight.

      Gambling is a huge problem in Australia. and any measure taken to reduce the chance of addiction is a step in the right direction.

    • Al (the original) says:

      07:14am | 19/01/12

      Al - Actualy, like most things, anything a person becomes addicted to was in all probability introduced by their choice.
      Gambling ‘addicts’ choose to go to places they can gamble, they choose how much they will gamble, they choose when to stop gambling.
      I am not saying it isn’t an issue, I am saying it is a matter of people realising that they have choosen a destructive behaviour and to choose to change that.
      And yes this will work with drugs or alcohol as well (simply replace the word gambling with the words ‘take drugs/alcohol’).
      The thing is that most (there are a few exceptions) addicts are not suffering from a medical condition but a behavioural disorder, otherwise the primary solution to it would not be mandated religion (AA, GA, NA etc… all religion no matter how they wish to disguise it).

      I also hope no one thinks your comments are mine!

    • Dan Webster says:

      03:39pm | 18/01/12

      It’s pretty obvious that pokies do more harm than good to the general population. When is the last time you heard someone retire because they had a win on the pokies ?!!

      The only winners are Big Business and the Government.
      Those two seem to have no problem making money to the detriment of others, just as they always have.

      It’s almost like Big Business are a drug cartel and pokies are the drugs….but everything is fine because Big Business are only doing it to make a profit for the shareholders…...It’s a wonderful world.

    • Vivian says:

      03:46pm | 18/01/12

      I am interested in what Tom thinks about Gillards decision to trash her promise seeing how it hits so close to home for him.

    • jf says:

      04:32pm | 18/01/12

      What does the carbon tax have to do with this?

    • thatmosis says:

      03:50pm | 18/01/12

      Your story is the story of a person without the backbone to stop and its not anybodies fault but your own. You cant really blame the machines or the music or whatever except your lack of intestinal fortitude that led you to ruin.
      Why is it that addicts always blame the product when in fact its they themselves that are the problem and why should people who know what they are doing be made to suffer for the few idiots that cant control themselves.
        Take responsibility for your own actions instead of getting other people to take the fall with you. Suck it up sweetheart.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      04:14pm | 18/01/12

      That’s a tough stance; too tough. 
       
      It *is* an addiction, just as smoking and drinking are addictions. They are all legal, they are all not only sanctioned, but actively promoted by Governments because of the revenue involved. The Government then tells you they are tackling the ‘‘problem’’ by spending a tiny fraction of what they are gaining, advertising against it. Hyprocrites.

      I know exactly what this bloke is talking about - that music is designed by evil bastards in a lab to act on people. It is NOT as you might think, incidental entertainment supplied with the machine - it is integral and people *do* carry the tunes in their heads, it actually saps the ability of people to say no.

      They should never have allowed poker machines in pubs, most of which return nothing to the community. They should have been restricted to sporting and community clubs. It has reached the point where you simply can’t go out without coming across the bloody things and pubs are only interested in investing money in facilities for more machines. 
       
      If you need any more reason to detest them, Woolworths is now one of the largest owners of pokies and we know what a pack of shits *they* are.

    • sick of hearing it says:

      04:16pm | 18/01/12

      You know what, thatmosis, your utter lack of human empathy is perfectly disgusting.  Tom is not blaming the pokies - he is warning what addiction, in this case the pokies, can do to people.  Most addicts do NOT blame their ‘drug’ of choice.

      I do hope you suffer from an addiction one day, unless you have a family who are nicer than you.

    • thatmosis says:

      08:21pm | 18/01/12

      Couldnt give a fig what you think “sick of hearing it’. I ve been there and done that both with booze and smokes and didnt blame anybody but myself and stopped by myself without forcing the government to put in place restrictions on other people because of me.
        I took the hard road and won, why because I had the brains to realise that what I was doing was wrong both for me and my family and that was that. Havent had a drink for 37 years and havent had a smoke for 10 years and lo and behold all without whinging about how hard it was and expecting everybody to feel sorry for me.
      Its time people took responsibility for their actions instead of expecting the Government to bring in stupid laws to punish those that havent a problem. Got a problem with or are you one of those bleeding hearts who reaches out to everyone with a problem. Thats the bloody trouble, too many bleeding hearts perpetuating the myth that everything is someone elses fault and not the fault of the one who has the problem.

    • LizBriz says:

      04:03pm | 18/01/12

      Tom,  thank you for sharing your story and I wish you all the success in the world to stay ‘clean’.  Addiction of any kind is a horrifying thing and not easily understood by those who haven’t experienced or lived with it, as some of the comments illustrate.  You cannot just snap out of it.

    • Don Paul says:

      04:06pm | 18/01/12

      Tom, you forgot to mention a couple of things in your article.

      The mess in your life was not from poker machines, it was from you. All those circumstances you list, are your fault entirely.

      More importantly, you’ve missed an opportunity to share the most crucial lesson: personal responsibility.

    • fairsfair says:

      04:44pm | 18/01/12

      Fair comment DP. You always hear that the first step in recovery was “admitting you have a problem” but I think the cliched societal view needs to change. The first step in recovery should be admitting that you are the only person responsible for your problem.

      Irrespective of what has gone on in your life YOU choose to take the first step toward any kind or negative lifestyle and well quite frankly, harsh realities need to be addressed if you have any hope of ever coming to terms with your demons.

    • Brad McT says:

      07:24am | 19/01/12

      He is doing a Gillard and blaming everything but the kitchen sink for his own weakness and inability. Ban pokie machines together with cigarettes, alcohol, fast food, prostitution, unemployed people on the dole etc after all they are all BAD for society boo f@#king hoo!

    • AllanJ says:

      04:47pm | 18/01/12

      I should start by saying that if I had the power I would ban the lot of the stupid, mindless, useless things altogether.  (Remember not to vote for me at the next election).

      Am I concerned about those who are addicted to the ongoing loss of their groceries and rent money on poker machines?  Of course.  One can only imagine what it would be like if it was you or members of your family who were afflicted in this way.

      However, I am sure that most of us also have concern for the many addicted to illegal drugs, alcohol, smoking, fatty foods and the many other forms of gambling.  Mental illness, of which gambling addiction is just one manifestation, is talked about much more freely these days and is seeing increases in government funding.  State governments have the basic responsibilities in these areas, as well as the legal framework surrounding clubs, hotels and casinos, and should be the ones held to account for what is being done or not done to attack this type of problem.

      That the issue of poker machine addiction should have been taken to the highest political levels in this country, draining the time, the patience and the mental energy of our Federal politicians and government officials away from the critical immediate and long-term national issues facing the country (saving the Murray-Darling, taxation reform, IR legislation, managing natural disasters, foreign ownership of resources, GFC2, Afghanistan et al) is hard to understand.

    • Your name:Pat says:

      04:48pm | 23/01/12

      Your comment:Allan J   ” Mental illness, of which gambling addiction is just one manifestation, is talked about much more freely these days and is seeing increases in government funding.”

      Alan, Do you now want to guess where Mental Heath Foundation (Vic) a tax free entity that gets Govenment fund money,  had its own last fund raising Annual Charity Ball last year? 
      Now no one laugh!. It was held nowhere else ..than in Melbourne’s Crown Casino Ballroom.

    • Sick of the BS says:

      09:47pm | 18/01/12

      Interesting topic. Many are making the comments like “If i wanna waste all my money on a known furphy well thats my choice,im not hurting anyone so let me be” do these same people advocate decriminalising drugs? If so why not? Many of my friends smoke pot,or take speed or xtc on the weekends,they dont hurt anyone,they hold down decent jobs and pay taxes like anyone else.Why should they be made a criminal for their vice while gamblers are free of will to continue theirs? If the government decriminalised drugs and manafcatured them in safe,regulated paces a lot of the dangers of (synthetic) drugs decreases,it can be taxed just like gambling,and as a huge plus a lot of the truly big time criminals lose their cash cow! Yes ill admit some people go nuts on certain drugs and over indulge,same can be said for gamblers and alcohol drinkers too! But thats ok,the government taxes them and says they are legal so all is a ok! Give me a break! Btw ive lived with 2 gambling addicts and they’ve been just as bad if not worse then the drug addicted people i know! Food for thought,no?

    • Bitten says:

      10:38am | 19/01/12

      Different issues: pokies are not illegal. Pot and speed etc currently are illegal. One argument is about people participating in a legal activity. The other is about participating in an illegal activity. The debate whether or not to decriminalise drugs is a separate matter to what is being discussed here: the actions of a government to potentially try to limit or control people’s ability to participate in a legal activity of their own free will.

    • Sick of the BS says:

      10:20pm | 19/01/12

      Bitten: Im well aware of the fact pot,speed et all are “illegal”,why are they “illegal”? Because the government claims they are too damaging to society. Well im 100% sure gambling,especially poker machines,are far from doing society any good so why shouldnt the government limit peoples use of them? They limit the use or certain drugs to nil so whats the difference? Furthermore my motorcycle is capable of reaching 300km/h,but the government limits my use of it to 110km/h max on a public road,ergo restricting my use of a legally obtained product as they see fit,so yet again,why shouldnt they limit the use of poker machnes?

    • Kevin says:

      07:31am | 19/01/12

      If feel sorry for this bloke but you have to take responsibilities for your own actions. I could use the same story about how I began smoking. Group situation, peer pressure and before you knew it I was smoking before, during and after work.

      However, I never once blamed anyone else. I chose to do it and it eventually it was my own free will that allowed me to stop.

      Stop blaming the pokies or whatever the addiction is, blame the weak individuals who can not sort their lives out.

      I’m sick and tired of people blaming the pokies. Blame yourself for putting the money in. It is far too easy these days for people to bale everyone else for their problems.

      Maybe they shoudl look inside first!!

    • Kevin says:

      07:31am | 19/01/12

      If feel sorry for this bloke but you have to take responsibilities for your own actions. I could use the same story about how I began smoking. Group situation, peer pressure and before you knew it I was smoking before, during and after work.

      However, I never once blamed anyone else. I chose to do it and it eventually it was my own free will that allowed me to stop.

      Stop blaming the pokies or whatever the addiction is, blame the weak individuals who can not sort their lives out.

      I’m sick and tired of people blaming the pokies. Blame yourself for putting the money in. It is far too easy these days for people to bale everyone else for their problems.

      Maybe they shoudl look inside first!!

    • subotic says:

      08:27am | 19/01/12

      There’s a few people on The Punch I’d like to “pokie” in the head.

      Wait… what?

    • Cathy says:

      09:02am | 19/01/12

      For a long time now, I have followed this poker machine saga and this escalating since the time of the Productivity Commission inquiry into gambling. It’s a pity it cannot be more appreciated how capricious and self serving this industry really is (particularly their arguments). A quick example, we hear all this prattle from them about supporting ‘voluntary’ pre-commitment, yet, in their original submission to the PC (ClubsAust sub 164, PDF p.11) they state “examples of proposed measures which Clubs Australia believes will be ineffective and should not be supported include voluntary pre-commitment…” They are also spruiking ‘multi venue self exclusion’ (can’t imagine what that might entail when considering the following) as in a further submission to the PC (CA DR359 PDF p. 39-41) they spend about 5 pages discrediting this particular measure (see for yourself). The bottom line is they will say just about anything and will not go much beyond window dressing measures because of their need to preserve the status quo. One of the hardest things to swallow about all this is that it exalts the dictum that might is right and that lies and deception will get you what you want. This cannot be excused with, ‘well that’s just business’ especially when you consider how much these clubs play on their ‘wholesome’ not for profit and community minded image.

    • dave says:

      10:31am | 19/01/12

      Couldn’t Agree more with Thatmosis, People need to be held accountable for their own actions. I quit the smokes and drink cold turkey, yeah it sucked for a few weeks but i didnt ask for a govt legislation or let my stupidity affect the enjoyment of others..
      No sympathy for addicts of any kind..

    • Dementer says:

      11:10am | 19/01/12

      If it aint the pokies it will be the horses, dogs, casino. etc.

      Ban gambling totally…...

    • Nathan Explosion says:

      11:29am | 19/01/12

      My sister used to work in the games room in pubs across Melbourne (Preston, Williamstown, the city) while putting herself through a law degree.

      The stories she told were amazing; the same people would be waiting at the door when they opened and would stay there all day. They would win staggering amounts of money, and put it all back in the machines.

      It would be good if clubs had the power to at least ban people from their games room. If someone’s there for tweleve hours a day, seven days a week, surely there’s a duty of care involved?

    • chuck says:

      03:35pm | 19/01/12

      World on a string at 24 and at his fingertips at 25. For goodness sake get a life and grow up and stop trying to add to the “legalism” mentality that is prevailing nowadays.

    • Karen from Qld says:

      04:15pm | 19/01/12

      An addict is an addict and will seek to satisfy his/her craving come what may - mandatory pre commitment or not. The only way an addiction is cured is when the addict acknowledges there is a problem and is willing to do something about it. No one can legislate to cure or stop any addiction.

    • Steve says:

      04:42pm | 19/01/12

      As an ex player, (pokie free for more than six year) it seems to me that if the “feature” was eliminated for all gaming machines then the desire to play them would almost entirely disappear.  Most players, both casual and addicts will tell you they only play to get the feature where all the bells and whistles, lights and free spins make the eyes light up and gets the heart racing.  Take this away and pretty soon most will realise just how boring and pointless these things really are.

    • Lan says:

      02:16pm | 10/02/12

      Am I the only one who oalnigrily found these vids by googling actual dick pics? As in pictures of erect penises?

 

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