My name is Tracey and I am not a lesbian. Well, except for 15 minutes in 1987. At university. Does that count? 

Everyone is at risk of being ‘outed’ these days, as tabloid media organizations eat their own to get the next exclusive story.

Last week, journalists were salivating at the mouth at the prospect of using the name ‘Tracy Grimshaw’ and ‘lesbian’ in the same sentence, following Gordon Ramsay’s outburst.

Tracy has publicly denied the allegation, but she will be forever haunted by a claim that, until now, was only whispered by carpet-strollers in TV corridors.

A fellow TV presenter, Peter Hitchener in Melbourne, suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune last year after being shoved from the closet.

Well-liked, respected and high-rating, the Channel 9 newsreader kept his private life to himself, until a newspaper journalist uncovered a Ballarat police report about two men sitting in a car late at night.

A check of the vehicle’s rego showed it belonged to Hitchener.

The police officer reported nothing untoward but, according to independent website Crikey.com.au, the journalist used that report to threaten Hitchener with a Page 1 beat-up.

Frantic, high-level meetings between Nine’s publicity department and the newspaper’s editor led to a ‘self-outing’ – a discreet, dignified interview in the body of the paper.

“That is part of who I am and with that disclosure, or acknowledgment, I just also need to say I am still the person I was yesterday,” Hitchener said, no doubt through clenched teeth.
So why does the media choose to out some celebrities, but not others?

There is an equally well-liked, high-rating TV presenter whose homosexuality is widely known, within the industry.

One gossip columnist tried to ‘out’ him last year, only to be told he was untouchable because he’d never sought publicity about his private life.

Fair call.

The elephant in this particular room is the annual sport of trying to ‘out’ Ian Thorpe.

It’s become a seasonal page-filler, akin to the cheese-rolling, bog-snorkelling and tomato-throwing contests.

For the uninitiated, this is how it works:

Step 1. Contact international paparazzi agency to find damning photos.

Step 2. Send shots to Thorpie’s agent, warning there’s “more to come”.

Step 3. Threaten to print the most explicit shot on Page 1, unless Thorpie makes a statement.

Step 4. Sit back and rub hands with glee while one of our national heroes is put through profound emotional turmoil.

Step 5. Print less-damning photo on Page 5, accompanied by Thorpie’s repeated denial.

The beautiful, talented and likeable Deborah Hutton suffered a similar fate in 2007, thanks to a Sydney newspaper.

After years of less-than-subtle jibes, the paper printed a picture of the former face of Grace Bros with her long-term girlfriend, Danni Roche, reporting that the pair had split up.

Hutton has kept a dignified silence on the issue, but friends are quoted as saying she’s looking “smoking hot” at the moment, and looks forward to getting back into the dating scene with “Sydney’s most eligible men… definitely men”.

It begs the question: do we really care?

Aussies are a pretty open-minded lot.

Surveys show we would still love Thorpie, and Hutton, even if they were gay.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that, as Seinfeld would say.

Frankly, I like my celebrities to be a bit more interesting than your white-bread, middle class, heterosexual chap with a loving wife and 2.2 kids.

I think we all prefer those on the box to be a bit more octagonal in shape, rather than square.

Real life can be banal.

Groundhog Day is more bearable, peppered with vicarious experiences, courtesy of the larger-than-life.

The question then becomes: to publish, or not to publish?

As a journalist, I believe that anyone who uses their personal life as publicity fodder is fair game.

But we should respect the privacy of those who refuse to sell their stories to women’s magazines.

It’s quite simple.

I have no respect for celebrities like Nicole Kidman, who pleads for privacy while her publicist calls selected paparazzo to tell them where the actress is having lunch.

That’s why her ex-husband is a constant target.

Tom, you can’t have your lamb roast and eat it too.

The last word goes to that great channeler of the minds of the Australian public, Homer Simpson.

“I like my beers cold and my homosexuals flaming.”

Indeed.

- Tracey Spicer is a journalist, Sky newsreader, MC, keynote speaker and media trainer.

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    • Tom says:

      07:44am | 16/06/09

      Queer-friendly chattering-class types like The Punch’s writers and readers might like to think that “Aussies are a pretty open-minded lot.”  Why don’t you ask Uncle Toby’s for a second opinion?

    • Andrew says:

      07:56am | 16/06/09

      True, in America, the media is trying so hard to out Anderson Cooper (CNN News presenter) or Jodie Foster. Actually, it happens all across the world! It’s like, they just want to keep their private life as private as possible, but the paparazzi are still trying to discover what’s lurking beneath their private life. LOL.

    • Steve Symons says:

      08:10am | 16/06/09

      Totally agree with everything you’ve written in your column and, in particular, your point regarding the garnering of publicity….....as you say, Cruise wanted his roast lamb and to eat it too…......personally, I couldn’t give a tinker’s cuss about the sexual preferences of media personalities provided they don’t make comments regarding others’ sexual preferences….....btw as I’m sure my wife will agree, I’m a full blown lesbian myself;o)

    • Jason Ealey says:

      08:29am | 16/06/09

      Tom’s question ” Why don’t you ask Uncle Toby’s for a second opinion?” hits the nail on the proverbial. Advertisers, on the whole are quite conservative and to be spruiking goods and services when you are not the ‘normal’ hetero is often unacceptable to those wholesome, apparently health and family driven advertisers. ( yeah the ones selling sugar filled cereals as health foods to kids) Of course , this is quite ridiculous. The other issue is that if a gay or lesbian person with a public profile is outed or comes out, they are often deemed to be a spokesperson for gay issues which can be a very large cross to bear.

    • William Bullimore says:

      08:56am | 16/06/09

      I am amazed that this is still an issue in this day and age. Outing celebrities started in the 80s as a means to bring the issues of gay rights and AIDS to the forefront of public attention. Right or wrong, sometimes this worked. For example Rock Hudson and Freddy Mercury’s outing and subsequent deaths did more for AIDS awareness than all the public awareness campaigns put together. Nowadays, I think most people could care less, except for the instant “ooh factor” which drives hits on websites and sells gossip rags. I think that is why it still happens. I totally agree that those who sell their “private lives” have no right to complain.

    • Naomi says:

      08:58am | 16/06/09

      It is a shame that we can’t leave those who wish to keep their sexuality to themselves alone.

      Although, it doesn’t just happen to celebrities. I have a male friend who was outed at work by someone, who then claimed he was sexually harassed by my friend. It is precisely the reason why he keeps his private life to himself when at work.

      As for whether Ian Thorpe is gay - who cares. All the speculation detracts from swimming achievements and charity work.

    • Bailey says:

      09:06am | 16/06/09

      I wonder if Matthew Mitcham felt the same way after coming back from the 2008 Olympics. Matthew Mitcham, fit and good looking bloke, won a Gold Medal for a perfect dive, and when he got back to Australia, where were his sponsorship deals like had been waiting for Thorpe, Perkins, etc?

      Oh thats right, Matthew Mitcham was the first ever openly gay Australian Olympic Athlete, so no one wnated to be the first on that band wagon.

      So as to the assertion that the Australian Media, Advertisers, or the general public are “a pretty open minded lot”, Wake up to yourself, step outside Sydney’s Inner City Suburbs and realise, Australia hasn’t come anywhere near as far as you’d like to think!

    • Doug says:

      09:09am | 16/06/09

      I guess I found nothing much to take issue with, until I got to the sentence about “Frankly, I like my celebrities to be a bit more interesting than your white-bread, middle class, heterosexual chap with a loving wife and 2.2 kids.” Um, should I apologise for MY lifestyle, my family or indeed my choice of bread? Fair go Tracy, didn’t you just take a bigoted swipe at me and others like me? Diversity is fine but it is not an invitation to slag off at the rest of us who are, for want of a better word, normal. It’s ok to be like us. We like it. And it’s 2 kids.

    • Jason says:

      09:10am | 16/06/09

      The silly thing is, of course, that asking the question of somewhere and getting a denial is NOT news. I remember poor old Bruce McAvaney a few years back being splashed across the front pages of the News Ltd Sunday rags denying “constant rumours” of his homosexuality…

      The unfortunate thing, too, is the denials - true or otherwise - are ALWAYS awkward. “I’m not gay, not that there’s anything wrong with that, I love the gays, I have many gay friends, each to their own I say, I could never be gay, kinda disgusting, but it’s a free world…” Tracey Grimshaw stumbled over herself here and, deliberate or otherwise, expressed the sort of homophobia the media is renowned for by being forced into an unnecessary denial.

      There’s only ONE right answer to the question ‘are you gay?’. Simply: who cares?

    • luke says:

      09:33am | 16/06/09

      Being gay is so accepted these days that its like saying on the front page someone is heterosexual.
      the media needs to get with the times.

    • Josh says:

      09:47am | 16/06/09

      While I don’t think they should have to come out and pronounce that they’re gay, the continual denials do them much more harm than good.

      It basically pronounces that there’s still something ‘wrong’ with being gay. When society thankfully has moved far beyond that point.

      Tracy Grimshaw’s ‘I’m not gay but I have lots of gay friends’ apology was woeful. Why even justify it with a response?

      I really like the way Adam Lambert on American Idol handled the whole gay thing. He never denied it, just never commented on it and when Idol was over, he was pretty much ‘well duhhh’ to Rolling Stone asking him about it.

      I think the trick is to not let it define your personality as a celebrity if people are that obsessed with it. It’s so much less of an issue in the UK than it is here. People like Stephen Fry and Sir Ian Mackellen do well in this regard.

    • Jo says:

      09:51am | 16/06/09

      The issue here isn’t really about whether a celebrity has chosen to keep their private life private, but about the motives and language that surround “outing” someone as gay.

      Being gay is completely natural, as is being heterosexual, yet you never see someone being “outed” as straight or being pressured to “admit” their heterosexuality.

      The people who think celebrities (and others) must be public about their sexual preference - but only when it’s not straight - are reinforcing the harmful stereotype that there is something wrong or shameful about being gay.

      There isn’t, and they need to let it go.

    • Matt says:

      10:02am | 16/06/09

      “Frankly, I like my celebrities to be a bit more interesting than your white-bread, middle class, heterosexual chap with a loving wife and 2.2 kids.”

      So you’re basically saying that any “celebrity” who is white, straight, and in a stable, responsible and loving relationship is not worthy of your attention?  So THIS is how the Corey Worthingtons and “chk-chk-boom” girls continue to make news headlines around Australia.

      As for the gay issue, there are now so many openly homosexual people in the media, that the burning question is fast becoming, “Who is NOT gay?”

    • John B says:

      10:10am | 16/06/09

      A brave and great column from someone on the inside!  At the end of the day, journalists have to be prepared to be played at their own game.  Your Grimshaws and the like have to expect that eventually after all their picking and prodding, and sometimes textbook invasion of privacy, that someone’s going to have a dig in their direction.  It will keep them grounded that’s for sure.

    • Chris says:

      10:33am | 16/06/09

      “My name is Tracey and I am not a lesbian. Well, except for 15 minutes in 1987. At university. Does that count?”

      That’s the best opening line I’ve read on this site. Ah Tracey, you had me at hello.

    • deano says:

      10:40am | 16/06/09

      “Frankly, I like my celebrities to be a bit more interesting than your white-bread, middle class, heterosexual chap with a loving wife and 2.2 kids”
      Is that what Channel 10 execs were thinking when they gave Tracey the boot?

      As for Matthew Mitcham, i think it was his choice of sport rather than his sexualilty that keeps the advertisers away.

    • Faz says:

      11:18am | 16/06/09

      I’m a white-bread, middle class, homosexual woman with a loving wife and 2.2 kids. Does this make me any less boring? I don’t think so.

    • Chris says:

      11:25am | 16/06/09

      Though that was a slightly boring comment Faz, the fact that you have an extra .2 of a kid does make you quite interesting.

      Is the .2 just a foot or something, or does perhaps one of your children posess an extra head? I tell you, that would be incredibly interesting.

    • Matthew says:

      11:26am | 16/06/09

      I have recently returned to Australia after living overseas for six years, and while I can see we have taken some steps forward since I’ve been gone, Australia really hasn’t come as far as you say.
      You feed into the ‘larger than life’ view of gay people assuming to be gay means you have to be outrageous and flamboyant like Queer Eye’s Carson or Richard Reid. While I find these guys hilarious, you need to know they are just one part of our colourful community.
      As a gay man, I dream of finding a partner and sharing my life with someone. There is nothing banal or boring about love or life - gay or otherwise. You should be so lucky to have a husband and 2 children. Life is amazing!
      While I think it’s unhealthy to be relying on the media or public figures to spice up our lives, I do feel a little sense of pride and inspiration each time a celebrity talks openly about their homosexuality.

    • James says:

      11:36am | 16/06/09

      I don’t really care one way or the other.

      But, having said that, why sepnd so much money, time & effort trying to hide it?

      Why should anyone really care as long as someone is able to do their job, it doesn’t matter.

    • Tom says:

      11:38am | 16/06/09

      Charlie Chaplin was widely assumed to be Jewish, a mistake he never corrected.  In fact, he made refusal to deny being a Jew a life-long policy.  Regardless of their sexuality, Grimshaw, Thorpe and the rest could learn from him.

    • Anthony says:

      11:42am | 16/06/09

      Your comment:Why do we want to out lesbians?  Nothing attracts interest like a lesbian story.  Just look at the comment count.  This has to be one of the most commented-on stories on the site.  But maybe that’s due to the intriguing opening par…

    • Hendo says:

      12:00pm | 16/06/09

      Onya Tracey,
      I didn’t know those people you mentioned were gay. Thanks for sharing.

    • Brendan maclean says:

      12:00pm | 16/06/09

      I’m so gay!

    • stephen says:

      12:01pm | 16/06/09

      Normal in ostraya’s pickin’ up yer lawnmower blades at bunnings on a sat’dy arvo; anythin else is a bonus. More gossip please.

    • Chris says:

      12:06pm | 16/06/09

      I think that’s Tracey’s entire point Anthony. Why should it matter? I guess it’s just eye-catching and gossip fodder, and until human beings get bored of sensationalism, that’s not going to change. I wonder how the box office takings of Lesbian Vampire Killers is going?

    • Deborah says:

      12:12pm | 16/06/09

      Deano is correct, Matthew’s chosen sport of diving simply isn’t “sexy” enough to attract him a sponsor, which is unfortunate as he is a beatifully spoken young man with a winning charm.

      Whilst I don’t personally support “outing” in the sense of fulfilling the public’s insatiable appetite for “scandal”. If the situation assists a young gay or lesbian person, living in less than supportive circumstances, realise they aren’t alone, then surely something positive has been achieved.

      Unfortunately, I do not tend to agree with all of the “Australia is a tolerant society” comments. Once you leave the safe haven of inner city areas, the mood can sometimes be less than welcoming. Indeed, it has been my experience, that snide remarks or stares are sometimes the first response when people realise the two well dressed ladies wearing makeup are “together”.

      Having said all this and despite the challenges my partner and I have sometimes faced, often with the outcome being of educating or enlightening people that gay/lesbian people really are “just like you”. I am very aware of just how lucky I am to live in a society where I can share a home and a life with the woman I love.

    • SD says:

      12:13pm | 16/06/09

      15 minutes in 1987 at university? Pics, or it didn’t happen.

    • Bart says:

      12:37pm | 16/06/09

      I agree with all your column except that I’m with Doug and Matt, whats wrong with being a normal stable hetero male with kids, does it make me substandard? I have no problem with celebrities being homosexual, I just despise it when they take to the streets ranting against us straights and painting us to be abnormal. Glad to be straight and apparently boring!

    • Nathan says:

      12:58pm | 16/06/09

      Jerry Seinfield had this issue. He was single was ages, neat, thin and dresses well. People assumed he was gay until they asked him why he was single. His answer was along the lines of ‘it was the right thing at that time in my life, and now marriage is now the right thing at this time in my life’.

    • ysabella says:

      12:59pm | 16/06/09

      Does Narcissism count? I may be lesbian.

    • Jason of Perth says:

      01:46pm | 16/06/09

      Australians Dont care if someone is gay or lesbian or strauight. Its simply not something that we care about.

      if you do care if person X is gay then your part of a Radical extreme minority… of 1. Get over yourself.

      It is simlpy ridiculous to watch any mainstream news these days as everything is simplya lie and portrays an extremely onesided report that no-one actually cares about…

      TT and ACA are the worst kind of paparatzi (sp?) reporting. These “reporters” have no place calling themselves journalists… if they think that a few years in the trenches will give them enough to work thier way into respectible journalistic corridors then they are kidding themelves…

    • Paul H says:

      01:49pm | 16/06/09

      Well in your industry Tracy I am surprised that they don’t out folk for being heterosexual! Let’s face it media industries are the hotbed of homosexuality with a fair proportion of bestialists and necrophiliacs thrown in. I am really surprised that gossip hungry females would feign surprise at anyone in the media being homosexual. I mean really, are people that stupid to act outraged when one of your elite compatriots comes out?  Or rather is it simply a little bit of voyeuristic entertainment for dull boring women who need this kind of filth in their lives!

    • Oz says:

      02:22pm | 16/06/09

      Don’t think Australian’s really care about whether people are straight or gay, but by the same token they don’t necessarily take to people that make a big-deal out of their sexuality.  Being gay is irrelevant to whether someone is entertaining or informative, but being militantly gay and constantly drawing attention to it is as tedious as women who measure every success or failure in terms of feminism. 
      Personally, I think Tracy Grimshaw should have just winked and said ‘maybe - who knows?’, or much better still, not have dignified the topic with any comment at all….  but then again, dignity and ACA have never been comfortable bedfellows.
      Finally, I think the 15 minutes at Uni only counts if you have photographic evidence….. did they have cameras back in 87?

    • Andrew says:

      03:02pm | 16/06/09

      Is it possible to salivate anywhere else but at the mouth?

    • Tony says:

      03:03pm | 16/06/09

      I agree with the proper response being “who cares?”  Quite frankly, my reaction varies between a yawn and changing the channel, when these sorts of allegations are made.  What annoys me most is that there are obviously people who do make some deal about whether a particular celebrity is gay.  If there wasn’t, why would the media even bother making a story out of it?

      As for how far Australia has come, it has progressed, and at least in the bigger cities, being gay is rapidly becoming a non issue.  This is not so in the outer suburbs or regional centres, but even those are still better than in most other countries.

      As a gay man myself, and one who just blends into the suburban surroundings, I often get asked “Are you married or single?”, in the course of normal social discourse with people I meet in the community.  Often, I’ll answer that with “neither”, which baffles the person asking the question, but it’s also 100% correct, since I’m in a registered relationship with my partner.

    • Pat says:

      03:32pm | 16/06/09

      Well, Paul H’s comment June 16th 1.49 pm probably enshrines the ignorance of some australians on this issue. Anyway, shouldn’t one be able to sue the pants off journalists for this “Sexuality blackmail”? Regardless if they are gay or not, what gives tabloid newspaperst he right to plaster an individual’s private life across their front pages? The sooner this rubbish is stamped upon with some regulation the better

    • Ford says:

      04:11pm | 16/06/09

      In the words of a great man “if I’m not f’ing you, it’s none of your f’ing business”.

      That being said, while things may have improved in capital cities, I can assure you that ignorance and discrimination abounds in regional cities and smaller towns.

    • Kate Richardson says:

      05:10pm | 16/06/09

      Your comment: People have a right to privacy, but the more people that come out, the less of a big deal it will be, the less sponsors will care etc etc. By cloaking and hiding, it suggests there is something to be ashamed of.

    • Earl Downing says:

      05:25pm | 16/06/09

      Most if not all of these types of stories are beatups to fill gaps in a paper. I remember one memorable beatup in the Melbourne Truth. It all began when the Editor could not find a headline that would grab readers for the front page. He called in one of his reporters and said “Ask Sonia McMahon is Billy a poof”. Sonia was asked, She said “No” and the headline was published Sonia says Billy is not a Poof.

    • David says:

      05:50pm | 16/06/09

      Have Australians grown up? I like to think so.

      I was as bigoted as any kid growing up in the white bread suburbs of Melbourne but ended up marrying a ‘dago’ (I feel sick using that word just for this submission but I hope the enlightened reader will see it for what I intended).

      I knew every joke about Asians until I moved to Japan and fell in love with what it offered (and saw a lot of what lies beneath such as their racism). I lived in other Asian countries and found they are no better or worse than what we experience in Australia.

      I learned that fears and bias and loathing, etc. come from ignorance and a lack of desire to be informed.

      So now I get comments like “you’re turning Japanese”. I just wonder what the thought processes are inside some people’s heads.

      Four years ago I was a co-owner of a successful business which we sold to another, larger company. During the due diligence, one of their guys, who was gay, and myself became good friends. But we couldn’t even have a laugh or a coffee in the tearoom without one of the staff or my business partner winking at me with a smirk on their face. If Alan had been drop dead gorgeous and big breasted I don’t think the winks and grins would have meant the same.
      Later, in a amoment of candid/conspiratorial drunkeness, my business partner admitted that Alan made him feel sick and that it didn’t look good for me!!

      In a recent seminar, one of the other guys on the course was possibly/probably gay. Another participant asked me on the second day if I thought Doug was gay. Like it mattered? All I could think of politely, humouresly, was to ask “why, are you going to ask him out?”. If I’d asked this guy if he was a child molester he couldn’t have looked more shocked or embarassed.

      Has Australia grown up? Have I? I hope I am but I’m never sure. I wish I could say the same for my beloved country but I fear I know the answer

    • Cheryl Jenkins says:

      05:53pm | 16/06/09

      For all the people saying “Why hide it?”. Who says they are hiding it just because they don’t choose to talk about their sex lives? It’s nobody elses business. Do straight people constantly have to say I’m hetero and proud? Everybody should be able to make the choice of what, and with whom, they share about their personal lives.

    • michelle says:

      06:16pm | 16/06/09

      whats this 15 minutes at university tracey lol

    • Dave says:

      06:18pm | 16/06/09

      All people have a right to privacy, celebs included. However, if you are going to go out and put yourself in the public spotlight by chasing the New Idea/Womans Day dollar or promote your new movie/tv show or continually work the press spouting off your own dipshit opinions then you deserve the public investigation/ridicule that goes with it.

      Conversely, why bother hiding it if someone asks you? What’s to be embarrassed about?

      I also agree with the comments re Matthew Mitchum. You know, sometimes its not about being gay. Sometimes its for far more ordinary reasons such as he’s in a sport 99.9% of Australian’s couldn’t give a rats arse about. How many world champion badminton players have we seen spruiking Uncle Toby’s products? What about Aussie champion shuffleboard players? No KFC endorsements? He’s a diver for god’s sake…no one cares. Not because he’s gay.

    • rob says:

      06:23pm | 16/06/09

      first of all whats this 15 minutes at uni tracey lol? second, who cares whether someones gay or not, its doesnt make a difference to who they are. tracey grimshaw preys on other peoples misery to earn a living. similar to all commercial current affairs presenters

    • Jason says:

      10:03pm | 16/06/09

      Im gay and if Australians are so open minded when it comes to homosexuality why is there virtually no gay male same-sex couples on television ?

    • Phil, journo, Dubai says:

      01:22am | 17/06/09

      Ordinary piece, but top intro.

    • Garry says:

      02:42pm | 17/06/09

      To be perfectly honest I would go to motive on why media need to ‘out’ a person. Is it really ‘the public right to know’ or is it self-righteous individuals with an agenda that has nothing to do with sex. Sadly too many ‘people’ want to know, be shocked or make comment. Me I could not care less because I do not think a person’s sex or even sexuality is important to me I care only that they do their job without bias, don’t lie and don’t abuse their positions. I am angered only by those who actually think themselves superior, in these cases it is not superiority but anger and jealousy because of personal agendas. I also believe to use the ‘gay’ card is deplorable, vindictive and well, I would say if I could illegal. I do not care if anyone around me is gay, straight or even celibate that is a personal choice I allow choice because that is what life is about, free choice. It is a shame that many people crave to destroy others and anyone who gets involved in such muck raking perhaps a new law is needed, ‘sexists’ are treated like racists. Am I a gay writing this… would the answer really be believed because a judgement has already been made.

    • Phil says:

      07:29pm | 17/06/09

      It is more normal for 2 women to be lesbian than 2 men to be gay. I reckon the majority feel this way

    • Caitlin says:

      05:17pm | 19/06/09

      I am not worried if someone is same sex or not. All that matters is people live a happy life and enjoy it. Of course Australia has issues with same sex people the majority of people in the world do not just here. Just because a country allows you to marry someone of the same sex doesn’t mean the people of the country support it. This is not just because of Christians this is almost every religion out there is against the union of a woman with a woman or a man with a man. Is it ignorance or is it just something not everyone is used to?

      People view the world via themselves not through other people’s eyes. As a world we still have senseless wars when this stops maybe people will be accepted as humans. Once we get this maybe we can look at accepting people for who they are and all be the same level. Or would that be boring if we all thought the same???

    • Jack Thomas says:

      10:18pm | 19/06/09

      Build a bridge Nancy and friends.

      Why does Alan Jones work so hard stifling the book Jonestown and mention of his arrest in London for leed behaviour in a public toilet, when at the same time he can rip into anyone else on radio?

      Why was Gordon Ramsay’s arrest for similar ‘behaviour’ stifled quicker than one of his entrees by the media?

      Hetro stars get the “is she pregnant or just fat”, “is he cheating on his wife” bulldust, so why are you princesses so special?

      Why did the foodie one in Queer Eye have to pretend he was gay to get the gig? Where is the straight guy in the reality show as the expert on fashion, modelling or design? Where’s the talent in some queen screaming like Carlson Kressley, apart from being so obviously gay?

      Why does Miss USA get sacked when she responds to a leading question and simply says she doesn’t agree with gay marriage (as Obama himself has said on record)?

      Learn to deal with the fact that the big world outside your inner city lifestyle is where the majority live. They are not gay. Them’s the facts. Deal with em.

      No special treatment, or straight out whining “why isn’t there gay sex on TV?” will help you like the idea to just build that bridge and stop boring the rest of us.

    • Liz says:

      12:19pm | 12/05/10

      Get a grip Jack,
      You talk about homosexuality like it an inner city trend or ‘lifestyle’ How can something as meaninful as a persons sexual preference be likened to a soy latte or a haloumi sandwhich?
      Sure, the majortity of people may not be gay but that doesn’t mean that gay people do not exist in EVERY walk of life and in EVERY town in Australia.
      Gays that live in the inner city have the opportunity to freely express themselves because people are open and accepting I fear that gay people in your neck of the woods would have a harder time of it with attitudes like yours that completely miss the point.

    • Richard Godber says:

      03:32am | 15/02/12

      Very interesting comments mostly from “majority,normal,straight"people….see I can use labels too..
      As a “gay"man who grew up in 1980s country Western Australia and was verbally/physically abused at school and then for five years of my working life…
      I can honestly say that the community is now “bored” with” gay “men and women and that prejudice for young “gays” is no better in schools or universities.
      From more recent personal experience ,“gay” people don’t get promoted or acknowledged in the workplace and the mental illness and suicide rate amongst us is three times the national average (oh and I am one of those latte drinking “cbders” now too…)
      Australia plays the PC game like everyone else…
      Thankfully ,i’ve stopped trying to fit in with the “white bread"world of the middle class majority and can see just how “abnormal” and false,the uneducated and smug part of that really is..
      gee..that sounds a bit biased….yeah?...no s**t!

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