You’ve got to wonder how genuine Union boss Paul Howes’ latest headline-grabbing attempt to put himself centre-stage really is.

Does my head look big in this? Picture: Jane Dempster

He’s launched the “Don’t Dump on Australia” campaign, ostensibly on behalf of his union members, to encourage people to protest Australia’s ineffective anti-dumping laws.

Fair enough.  But the question is – why doesn’t he just get on the phone to the woman he installed as PM?  Why doesn’t he remind Julia that he knifed Kevin to get her there and, after all, this is the year “of decision and delivery”. 

Labor has been letting the Productivity Commission Report on Anti-Dumping legislation sit in their “too hard” basket since December 2009.

That’s 14 months and counting.  Not a peep from Labor or their union mates.  If the Coalition had taken such a cavalier approach to an issue vital to Australian workers and jobs, I dare say Mr Howes would have his members marching in the streets.

Instead, he’s using tough rhetoric but actually advocating a benign “contact your local member” approach to implore Aussie Mums and Dads to be his foot-soldiers on his Emperor-like approach to political stardom. It all reeks of spin.

The fact is, the practice of dumping goods in the Australian market cheaper than they are sold at home, does cost local jobs.  On that I can agree with Mr Howes.

Australian industry is among the most efficient, effective and innovative in the world, and some sectors have had to work hard over the years to succeed on a not-so level playing field.  There’s nothing fair or level about the practice of dumping. 

If Australia is to be more than a tourist destination, if we want to continue to be a nation that produces and makes things, we need to ensure that our markets are not distorted by good that are subsidised by foreign governments. 

In my discussions with Australian business, I know that they regard the current anti-dumping regime as too expensive to access, too cumbersome and more often than not retrospective.  The onus is on local industry to prove that not only dumping has occurred but that it has caused or is likely to cause materiel injury to an Australian industry – and even a successful case can end up costing the relevant Australian Industry hundreds of thousands of dollars.

This week, amid Paul Howes’s chest-thumping, Tony Abbott actually announced the Coalition’s plan to tackle the anti-dumping regime and make it fairer, simpler and more effective.  As Shadow Minister I’ll be chairing a Taskforce that, in consultation with Industry, will come up with solutions to the current flawed anti-dumping regime. 

The Taskforce will be nuts and bolts stuff – not merely a slogan or campaign. We’ll be fully prepared to address this issue in Government.

Of course, as Paul Howes’ knows, his great mate Julia Gillard has all the resources of Government to enhance and improve Australia’s anti-dumping laws right now.  So why hasn’t she?

Maybe the machinations are even more Machiavellian than I give Gillard credit for?  Perhaps this chest-thumping from Howes is a carefully designed precursor to the Government actually making an announcement, designed to give Howes a personal victory as payback for favors rendered?

Talk about “dumping” on Australian jobs and workers.

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    • Against he Man says:

      05:45am | 22/02/11

      Howes and the ALP have zero credibility. I want to see some significant results in anything. what a hopeless government!

    • TChong says:

      06:38am | 22/02/11

      AtM did you see the preferred PM poll reults ?
      Mr 31% is still Mr 31%!
      The days are numbered for Tuckered Out Tony.

    • Rick says:

      07:07am | 22/02/11

      That’s all well and good, but what have you got against He-Man? Do you dislike other Mattel toys from the 1980s as well?

    • Reg says:

      08:34am | 22/02/11

      @ Sophie; “Instead, he’s using tough rhetoric but actually advocating a benign “contact your local member” approach to implore Aussie Mums and Dads to be his foot-soldiers on his Emperor-like approach to political stardom. It all reeks of spin.”

      Well I’ve searched but cannot find anything other than that dreadful catch-all, “rhetoric.” Apparently Sophie prefers the “benign” to positivity.  Where are your forceful opinions on what needs to be done Sophie?  Or is yours a party of NO-opinions. At least you could suggest the prospect of resurrecting tariff barriers. What no initiative?

    • Aitch B says:

      08:51am | 22/02/11

      @TChong

      Are you seriously trying to tell us that a PM popularity poll is an indicator of significant results??

      Get that chicken fat off your perch, Chongy….. you’re slipping. That sort of comment is in the ‘nossy’ league. Well below you, I would have thought.

    • Ted says:

      09:23am | 22/02/11

      This is just Labor walking both sides of the street again. On one hand they rally the gullible with a campaign against dumping (a valid cause if truly believed and acted on) and on the other hand THEY are the system that is allowing the dumping to occur, let alone the other activities they allow like selling our farms an houses to other countries. Labor could stop the dumping on and selling off of Australia over night IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO.

    • undertow says:

      09:25am | 22/02/11

      Obviously a disgruntled Skelator fan.

    • Reg says:

      09:29am | 22/02/11

      @AitchB or should that be 2B? “Are you seriously trying to tell us that a PM popularity poll is an indicator of significant results??”

      Why doncha ask somebody wot cares? It’s perceptions that count.

    • TimB says:

      10:08am | 22/02/11

      “It’s perceptions that count.”

      So in your mind, as long as it *looks* like Labor are doing something useful, it doesn’t matter if they actually are. Wonderful.

      Unlike you Reg, some of us need more than just spin & PR. We actually give a damn about practical results.

    • Aitch B says:

      10:14am | 22/02/11

      @Reg

      Not in my world, they dont.

    • Reg says:

      12:23pm | 22/02/11

      But boys, it’s the voters who count, not you.  So slow, so very very slow. smile

    • TimB says:

      03:27pm | 22/02/11

      In that case Reg, the voters are morons.

      But then I guess Labor kind of rely on that.

    • Reg says:

      04:22pm | 22/02/11

      Oh Timmy I must ask your qualification to make this judgment? I wouldn’t presume to insult the people of Australia by calling them nasty names but no doubt things are different in the born-to-rule class. Anyhow Sophie was only rattling her gums here, she hasn’t made a single worthwhile comment, so you have something in common.

    • TimB says:

      06:30pm | 22/02/11

      I make the judgement based on the fact that anyone swayed by spin over substance is a moron. Thus anyone voting on that basis is also a moron.

    • Against the Man says:

      07:39pm | 22/02/11

      Oh TChong, let me see if this might wake you up a little. Remember the last election the one Gillard didn’t win and had to sell the ALP values (if it had any left) to the Greens/Indepndents. Now why wasn’t that all out victory against Abbott? Thats right he stole lots of seats back from the ALP because it seems people didn’t really want Gilltard. Now she is Australia’s 1st fake female PM. So don’t gloat, you are on a losing side and watch the polls after the carbon tax is introduced. People are already pissed off about the flood levy and Gilltard will pay a price for it.
      And don’t forget the joke of a health non policy and of cause the corruption…..............enjoy smile

    • Reg says:

      07:39pm | 22/02/11

      So dreadfully judgmental! ;(

    • Steve Smith says:

      06:32am | 23/02/11

      A hopeless government(as you claim it to be) is far better than a neo- nazi one, that is filled with hatred and discrimination against people from different nationalities who don’t fit into their idealism or their way of thinking.
      Senator Cory Bernardi and Scott Morrison are prime examples of the vile hatred and discrimination that is engulping the Liberal/National party, and they should both be expelled from our Parliament.
      Racism and discrimination against people from different Nationalities should not be condoned or tolerated in our parliament and Tony Abbott as failed as a Leader from not stamping this current trait of racism out,and he should have ‘nipped it in the bud’, long ago.
      And ‘Against the Man’, it seems that you are wrong,  Howes and the ALP would have slightly more credibility and integrity that Tony Abbott and his whole Opposition bench.

    • Against he Man says:

      05:45am | 22/02/11

      Howes and the ALP have zero credibility. I want to see some significant results in anything. what a hopeless government!

    • Faz says:

      06:13am | 22/02/11

      Sophie. I have a new headline for you: ‘I’m dumping on UNION BOSS Paul Howes ... (I’d never dump on Tony Abbott) ... oh yes and there’s the issue of dumping goods and we’ll set up a taskforce’.

      Under all that though you say the campaign UNION BOSS Paul Howes has launched is ‘fair enough’ but, ultimately, UNION BOSS Paul Howes is dumping on Australian jobs and workers.

      In other words what UNION BOSS Paul Howes is doing is fair enough but I’m dumping on him because he is UNION BOSS Paul Howes (and I really, really don’t like back room boys ... well Labor back room boys ... I wouldn’t dump on the LIberal back room boys who installed Tony).

      Subtle as a brick ‘dump’ house, Sophie!

    • Leonidas says:

      07:06am | 22/02/11

      FAZ will dump on anyone even Paul Howes, Julia Gillard and the ALP!  But he just doesn’t have the mental capacity to do it.

    • Joseph says:

      07:47am | 22/02/11

      Breaking News::::: The union boss, Paul Howes, was recently outed as a union boss…

    • Seamus says:

      06:13am | 22/02/11

      He is certainly a me, me, me sort of bloke isn’t he?  I’ll bet a lot in the Party have one eye on his knife wielding arm.

    • jf says:

      04:48pm | 22/02/11

      “We need better processes, ones that are naturally disposed to reform.”

      An intriguing sentence Stephen. What does it mean? And what and how is Howes trying to incorporate them into?

    • David says:

      06:29am | 22/02/11

      They are a dangerous mob . Australia will be the arsehole of the world sooner than later . Get rid of those socialist criminals now !!!!!!

    • Carter says:

      08:00am | 22/02/11

      @David, do you even know what Socialism is? Because the current government isn’t even close to Socialist, and a lot further away than the Hawke Government, which is largely praised.

      In addition, leaving aside conservative propaganda, what is so very wrong with Socialism? And please don’t quote any cold-war rhetoric. The Soviets were not Socialists, they were Communists (and fairly fundamental Communists at that).

    • Ryan says:

      10:21am | 22/02/11

      @Carter: socialism / communism (just about the same thing) has brought just about every psychopathic nut-bag to power throughout history, Hitler, Pol Pot, you name it. Socialism has a whole lot to answer for, the sheer number of people murdered because of these people socialism brought to power is unimaginable, that is what is wrong with socialism.

    • jf says:

      12:20pm | 22/02/11

      “what is so very wrong with Socialism?”

      Other than that Socialism necessarily requires such significant control over personal freedom and civil liberties that it can only be effectively implemented by autocratic and inflexible laws by governments that are necessarily repressive and therefore must be enforced by Governments that must be authoritarion and despotic.

      Other than that, nothing.

    • stephen says:

      02:14pm | 22/02/11

      There’s differing stages of Democracy too.
      The one we have now is one dictated to by market forces alone.
      Forget, for the moment, about outcomes, whether they be socialism or communism, etc.
      We need better processes, ones that are naturally disposed to reform.
      This is what Mr. Howes is trying in incorporate.
      Give him a chance.

    • Reg says:

      04:38pm | 22/02/11

      I just wonder what some of these bug-eyed right-wing authorities make of the Chinese open market and how it fits in with Communism? I’m sure some of them never sleep for worrying about how to make a Capitalistic Chinese economy look bad when it fits in so well with their own everyday activities.

      An aside…Although the Chinese do not disclose the number of people who suffer capital punishment, did you know that the Chinese are actually resolved to take steps to eliminate the practice? Something the “Greatest Democracy on Earth” refuses to do. In fact killing their own people is a National sport in the US.

    • james milton says:

      06:44pm | 22/02/11

      @Reg

      China is not a communist country. It is a capitalist dictatorship. Most educated people know this.

      And they are ‘committed to taking steps to eliminate capital punishment’. In other words, what they are doing is talking? Making promises and assurances? Well, it’s China, so they must be telling the truth. They would never lie to their citizens or other governments to make themselves look good, would they?

    • Reg says:

      07:53pm | 22/02/11

      Well James thank you, I’ve obviously been taken in my all the *loud-mouthed right-wingers. A new term eh, a “Capitalist Dictatorship.”  Not too bad really since a Capitalist will spout any old lies for a profit and a Dictatorship is another name for a domineering CEO.  In fact it’s probably a good description of Colgates.

      * Notice and appreciate the careful avoidance of the word “rhetoric.” Ta.

    • Pete says:

      06:35am | 22/02/11

      Now just remind me again Sophie, what did you and little Johnnie do to strengthen these laws when you were in government? oh, thats right nothing not even a report to look at.  It’s easy to “promise” things in opposition, takes a bit more bottle to actually deliver. Was that a core or non core promise Sophie?  Mind you I’m not saying I am excusing ALP inaction just pointing out that you live in a glass house and you should not throw stones

    • ChrisW says:

      11:34am | 22/02/11

      Of course it’s convenient to ignore the fact that “dumping” in Australia is on a much greater scale than even a few years ago because of some countries’ need to shift surplus cheap goods at any price ... aided of course by a relatively affluent Australian population here well-schooled in “buy it if it’s cheap” by the major retail chains.
      Action really is needed now in this area whereas previously the major problem was buying up of Australian real estate, a problem dealt with at least to some degree by the FIRB.

    • nossy says:

      06:38am | 22/02/11

      God bless you Sophie for coming on Punch and writing an “unbiased” article about paul Howes !  hahahaah Your not in the Liberal Party are you ? Serously Sophie its about time you yourself stepped up to the Lib leadership - surely by now you Libs would have recognised that Abbott is simply not electable and all your efforts are just “striving after the wind”. Time for you to say to Tones - “alright fella the Redneck experiment has failed and so be off with you - and take Morrison, Joyce etc with you !” Then one day you yourself may be PM Sophie !

    • YoungConservative says:

      10:10am | 22/02/11

      An ‘unelectable leader’ almost became PM, I’ll have to remind you of that fact, I don’t see you taking off your blinkers in the mean time nossy.

    • TChong says:

      06:47am | 22/02/11

      As the LNP starts sinking, the sideshows try to distract.
      Paul Howes is a union man!, quick Sophie, repeat it over and over.
      (That’ll substitute for any actual story.)
      Howes is a union man, and the LNP is the party that will reintroduce Workchoices.
      Thats why Sophie and the LNP hate unions, they protect workers from Workchoices.
      Sophies simple message is Howes = unions.
      But , what Punters know is:
      Sophie, Abbott, Hockey, Robb, Abetz etc = Workchoices.

    • Joan says:

      12:13pm | 22/02/11

      Yeah Howes backed Gillard knifing of PM Rudd… he appeared on Late Line show giving her the go ahead to slice Rudd which Gillard did the next day.  Howes accompanied Swan to G20 ...and Sunday `Meet the Press`  Swan seen declaring that he (Swan) is a `proud unionist`  and Swan too scared to comment on Howes/Rio Tionto comments. Swan puts unions before his role as Treasure of Australia. Backstage the Major controller of Swan and Gillard is Howes.  Other Gillard button pushers are Bob Brown and independents.  Giilard is no leader at all—only in name.

    • Reg says:

      01:47pm | 22/02/11

      Really, Workchoices only really effected that section of the workforce that were paid above what they were worth and were easily replaceable.

      Good employees don’t get shafted by their employers if there are other potential employers looking. I pay some of my staff members $10K above what they can get elsewhere so they don’t even think of leaving.

      Now if your job is something that I could grab anyone on the street and they’d be able to pick it up in a day… then you may have problems.

    • Reg says:

      02:20pm | 22/02/11

      I dissociate myself from the above statement on the grounds that I have not one single good thing to say about Workchoices. ....Reggie.

    • Steve Smith says:

      04:17pm | 22/02/11

      T Chong
      Hitler disliked the unions also,and some of the laws from both WorkChoices and Anti-Terrorism laws was akin to laws in Hitler’s ‘Enabling act of March 23rd, 1933.
      Malcolm Fraser even wrote a story in the Canberra Times,Wednesday 2nd November 2005, “Nazi tones in Howard’s anti-terrorism laws”
      “Former liberal prime minister Malcolm Fraser has suggested parts of Howard Government anti- terror package resembles measures taken by Adolf Hitler”
      One can see why Malcolm Fraser resigned from the Liberal party because he believed it has wandered too far to the right.
      Then Sophie, there is the Liberal pairing of Senator Cory Bernardi, and Scott Morrison, who have both displayed their racism towards moslum people only recently.
      Australia does not need a political party like the Liberal/National party that has racism and outspoken hatred within its ranks,and unless these people are weeded out of the Liberal Party and our Parliament, then the Liberal/National party will never ever be worth voting for.

    • james milton says:

      06:47pm | 22/02/11

      @Steve Smith

      Malcolm Fraser? You mean the man responsible for getting Mugabe into power and causing the death and suffering of countless millions? I try to take what people like that say and do with a grain of salt. You know, evil people that enable other evil people to do evil.

    • Steve Smith says:

      06:16am | 23/02/11

      James Milton
      While it may be true that Malcolm Fraser ‘helped’ Mugabe into power, he did not aid and abet Mugabe by sending in Australian troops like Howard did to appease former President Bush.
      It seems that the former Howard Government still has unwashed blood on their hands by sending our troops into Iraq on false pretences and misleading information about ‘weapons of mass destruction’ that no longer existed.
      How many Iraqi people,  men, women, and children were slaughtered,injured and maimed during the Howard governments war game exercises with “The Coalition of the Willing”? 
      It also seems that most of those Liberal?Nationals that condoned and approved of the assault on Iraq are still members of the current Liberal/National party Opposition.
      From the former Howard government to the now Liberal/National party Opposition, the Liberal party appears to have a racist streak against people of different nationalities that don’t fit in with their tunnelled visioned and narrow minded way of idealism and thinking.
      The current statements and comments made by both Senator Cory Bernardi and Scott Morrison are a prime example of the hatred and contempt towards people from different cultural backgrounds,and the deafening silence from Opposition Leader Tony Abbott for failing to stamp out traces of racism occurring from within the party that he is Leader of, clearly shows why he is unfit to be a Leader, and also why he should not be Leader of the Liberal/National party Opposition
      Racism, vile hatred and discrimination against people by any members of our Parliament should not be condoned or tolerated and it is time for Senator Cory Bernardi, Scott Morrison and Tony Abbott to step down and remove themselves from our Parliament, they are no longer representing us, the Australian people,but are representing themselves,and their own bias, racist idealism and discrimination against people who don’t fit into their own little World.

    • Flexo says:

      07:06am | 22/02/11

      Have you noticed how Gillard and Howes look like evil Sith from Star Wars. Gillard could sub for thr Emperor anytime! The only one who can bring balance to the Force is Rudd Skywalker if he can ever get his light sabber erect!

    • TChong says:

      07:40am | 22/02/11

      Where as Abbott, Hockey, Bishop are The 3 Stooges wink
      BTW Flexo- you have something of a fixation with Rudds erect LightSaber?
      Dont worry, I wont tell anyone.

    • TimB says:

      08:00am | 22/02/11

      Gyah. I appreciate the point you’re trying to make, but stay away from the Star Wars analogies.

      Kevin Rudd as a Skywalker? Not a chance.

      And Gillard is obviously a Bothan.

    • Reg says:

      09:32am | 22/02/11

      Oh ffs…. but you’re right, that about what Sophie rates. Star..f****** Wars.

    • Against the Man says:

      04:59pm | 22/02/11

      TChong it seems like Cry Baby Rudd you might have a light sabber malfunction of sorts…............but I won’t tell anyone smile

      ps: Good job toeing the party line. Looks like the betrayal of Rudd is now complete.

    • George says:

      07:14am | 22/02/11

      Paul Howes is an ambitious man!  He has a young family and he appears to aim well to provide for them.

      He writes from the heart, whatever concrete or excrement that is made of.  He wears his heart ion his sleeve - so everyone will know and won’t be surprised that his ambition is to be parachuted into a safe ALP seat in the next election.

      In spite of my ideological and philosophical objections with Mr Howes’ body of work, no one can deny that he has passion.  A passion not seen of late in politicians from both sides of the fence.

      I guess his passion is the blessing of his youth.  I mean to churn out every single chance he has all that vitriol against Tony Abbott and to act like Julia’s lap dog is tiring to say the least, but Mr Howes’ does it.

      So Paul Howes, if only for that I salute you, but on the other hand I’d like to see you be as vitriolic as you are now when you assume your bent over position to Bill Shorten in Federal Parliament. 

      When they finally newter you, can you please write about it in your comedy page at the Sunday Telegraph, thanks!

    • Joseph says:

      07:50am | 22/02/11

      it is the passion of an excitable student activist.. lots of oomf….just not well thought out and considered…

    • Christine says:

      07:25am | 22/02/11

      ROFLMAO!!!  I read the headlines and thought “Wow, the Liberals have really done it this time.  They are all for littering and illegal dumping.”  Read on a bit.  Total confusion.  Enter ‘dumping’ in Google, expecting a huge raft of cleaning companies to come up first.  But no, top hit on the Google website was the Wikipedia article on “Dumping(pricing policy)”.  It was really nice to know that I wasn’t the only ignoramus who had to look it up.  Quite made my day.

    • Holly says:

      07:42am | 22/02/11

      Good try Sophie.  I am pleased that you are so concerned about anti-dumping measures after all. Your your own party was in government when the previous joint study into anti dumping practices was carried out in 2006.  I wonder what changes your government raced to implement after the findings of this inquiry.
      The Productivity Commission Report was released to the public in the middle of last year.  I did glance at it online after Tony Abbott declared his earnest desire to improve anti dumping measures.  What I did learn is that reports of anti dumping practice seem to have reached low levels, and that Australia has one of the quickest investigation procedures by world standards.

    • persephone says:

      07:43am | 22/02/11

      Oh, so when Labor consults, it’s because they can’t make a decision by themselves, but when you consult, it’s a PLAN.

      Tony Abbott hasn’t come up with a policy to tackle dumping, or you would have outlined it. Apparently what he has come up with is the brilliant idea of talking to industry about what needs to be done to tackle dumping.

      And yet, according to you, you’ve been talking to industry about how to tackle dumping.

      So you should already have some ideas about what can be done.

      And the Productivity Report has been sittng there for 14 months, so you’ve had plenty of time to think about its recommendations - oh, and they consulted with industry too.

      So why don’t you adopt their recommendations? After all, as you say, they’ve been there long enough for you to consider them - and to consult with industry about them.

      How much consulting with industry needs to happen?

      Tony Abbott didn’t announced a plan ‘to tackle the anti-dumping regime and make it fairer, simpler and more effective.’  He announced a plan to have a taskforce to come up with a plan.

      If you were doing your job as Shadow Minister effectively, this wouldn’t be necessary.

    • jf says:

      12:23pm | 22/02/11

      “Tony Abbott hasn’t come up with a policy to tackle dumping, or you would have outlined it. “

      Neither Tony Abbott nor his party have been in Government for the last two terms.

    • persephone says:

      12:50pm | 22/02/11

      Er…in her article, Sophie says that Abbott announced a policy which will ‘tackle the anti dumping regime’.

      It turns out that the policy is to consult with industry - who have already been consulted, by Sophie herself and by the Productivity Commission.

      So Sophie is the one claiming that there’s a policy when there isn’t.

    • jf says:

      10:16am | 26/02/11

      Neither Tony Abbott nor his party have been in Government for the last two terms.

    • Mike says:

      07:48am | 22/02/11

      I wish the Libs had a Paul Howes around that could give Abbott the flick and re-install Turnbull. Abbott has done well as Opposition Leader, but that as far as he’s going to go. Turnbull has the goods, get him back!  He will make the bogan princess look like the bogan she is.

    • hermes says:

      08:55am | 22/02/11

      Quite agree. While we are about it, can we dump Gillard too, and bring back Kevin (Eleven?). People who bag Kevin mustn’t forget that most of the criticisms came from Julia and Wayne…ummmm, vested interests/backstabber protectors? Actually, if the ALP brought Kevin back, and if TA stays on, I’ll vote ALP. If both Abbott and Gillard stay on, I think I’ll vote the Sex Party or something….anyone but the Greens, LOL.

    • Helen says:

      09:46am | 22/02/11

      Yep count me in too. TA has been good and done amazing things to get the Coalition back in contention. But it seems quite clear now that he won’t get them over the line. Turnbull is definitely the answer. I’m sure he has learnt his lesson not to jump the gun again or take leakers too seriously before checking the facts.

    • Joan says:

      04:04pm | 22/02/11

      Power to the ruthless you reckon ....not my idea of Australian democracy. ..... just shows how far backward ruthless Labor has taken Australia when supposed Liberals give oxygen to the likes Paul Howes

    • casba says:

      08:40am | 22/02/11

      You’re wrong Tim B- Gillard is not a Bothan.  She’s plain Bogun- through and through, nothing more, nothing less. I shudder to think what hideous outfit she will wear to the royal wedding! While she is smiling and lapping up the media attention at the royal event, she will be plotting the overthrow of the Monarchy.  Yes, the Empire Strikes Back all over again.

    • Richard M says:

      08:42am | 22/02/11

      What is the point, please The Punch, of publishing articles by Liberals (especially hard-line right wingers like Mirabella) dumping on Labor and the unions?  (Or for that matter, the reverse - not that you ever would!)  This is completely pointless and a waste of space.  Mirabella writing an article criticising Abbott - now that would be worth publishing.

    • Steve Thompson says:

      08:59am | 22/02/11

      Paul Howes is just an angry little man. Everything he says and does in driven by his deep-seated anger.

    • Rosie says:

      09:00am | 22/02/11

      This country is ruled by a tyrant in the name of Paul Howes. Where the hell is he? I heard that he is with the country’s treasurer abroad. See he has the PM and the treasurer glued to him. What ever he says goes!

      Gillard orders Paul Howes to be more polite to the employers is all bullshit it was a set up to fool the public into believing that she is the one in charge.  Paul Howes went as far as calling Emerson, Gillard’s ex boyfriend names, Gillard stuck up for Emerson! They will do anything to stay in power!

    • David says:

      09:31am | 22/02/11

      Thanks Carter , thanks for that useless info . You must be a member of the gang .

    • Steve of Cornubia says:

      09:46am | 22/02/11

      The thing is, the people complaining about unfair competition from overseas usually want it both ways. They want their particular industry (be it cars or minerals) protecting, but they also want to be able to buy cheap clothes in the shops.

      If we’re going to protect one industry by using tariffs (for instance) then we should apply said tariffs to ALL goods, thus providing all Australian workers with the same protection.

      Having said that, I’m not advocating for tariffs as I think Australians pay too much for most goods already - including imported goods. Lack of competition in many sectors, such as petrol and groceries, has driven up prices in Australia. Applying tariffs would serve to increase prices even more and, thus protected from competition, domestic suppliers wouldn’t have to offer good service.

    • Steve of Cornubia says:

      09:47am | 22/02/11

      The thing is, the people complaining about unfair competition from overseas usually want it both ways. They want their particular industry (be it cars or minerals) protecting, but they also want to be able to buy cheap clothes in the shops.

      If we’re going to protect one industry by using tariffs (for instance) then we should apply said tariffs to ALL goods, thus providing all Australian workers with the same protection.

      Having said that, I’m not advocating for tariffs as I think Australians pay too much for most goods already - including imported goods. Lack of competition in many sectors, such as petrol and groceries, has driven up prices in Australia. Applying tariffs would serve to increase prices even more and, thus protected from competition, domestic suppliers wouldn’t have to offer good service.

    • nossy says:

      09:51am | 22/02/11

      Sophie just to back up my blog @6.38am I see the latest Newspoll is very bad news for Tony Abbott with Gillard on 53% and Abbott dropping to only 31% as Prefered PM - how low can he go Sophie before someone steps in ? Labor now leads the Coalition after preferences 51-49 if an election was held today - but we are 2 and a half years out.

    • Ryan says:

      10:26am | 22/02/11

      @nossy: you know I have always thought that you are this horrible little Paul Howes character, now that I saw a recent post of yours I guess I can figure you are just another of those horrible baby boomer “me” generation who stole from their parents and steal from their kids and now seem intent on destroying everything before they go. I am sure we will enjoy paying off your debts, we will educate our children about that generation and why they are still paying for them. Keep pushing for that Labor party huh, just more on the agenda to see the future destroyed for everyone who follows. Unsurprising from the “me” generation.

    • Reg says:

      10:43am | 22/02/11

      Ryan every time you write you disclose a bit more of how nasty and short-sighted you are. The baby-boomers, of whom I am not one, come from parents who experienced a devastating depression and a war such as you could never, in a moment of rare lucidity, even begin to imagine.

      Despite both these crippling experiences, they have developed a world that even you can survive in. Not only survive, but thrive. You may thank them for their efforts in providing the comparative luxury you now enjoy.

    • Joan says:

      11:59am | 22/02/11

      53% for Gillard….. just shows 53% have   bad taste…..to give any vote to Gillard who knifed peoples PM Rudd in an overnight coup and to consider this woman shows good Australian democratic leadership style…... is beyond belief.  Gillards ruthless overnight knifing of Rudd was lowest moment in Australian political history. As people in Middle East get rid of ruthless leaders some Australians revere ruthlessness in a leader and vote for Gillard. Unbelievable!

    • Ryan says:

      12:40pm | 22/02/11

      @Reg: I thank your parents, the ones who worked really hard under terrible conditions, I am forever grateful for their contributions, they worked hard and gave you baby boomers free university, cheap housing, jobs galore and a standard of living far exceeding what they could ever have wished for, they did very well. What did the baby boomers give us? Expensive housing, a social system structured to themselves all the way through, budget deficits the likes of which the country has ever seen, successive Labor governments that have crippled some states and are doing a fine job at making living expenses unaffordable to most. Lets not even get started on how they have enriched themselves by selling out the Australian people by off-shoring whatever they can.
      Hell look at it today, we have boomer glass ceilings in businesses now where old people won’t retire because the government (again structuring the system to suit themselves) has made it so that you can pay so much less tax than everyone else by laundering your money through super.
      I have had countless projects I have worked on effectively stepped on because the boomer felt threatened that their jobs would become obsolete.
      My previous bunch of projects was an eye opener, the large corporate took a hard line approach and basically said that if anyone gets in the way of the project they are gone.. I can’t tell you how many boomers got axed because they did just that, attempted to step on projects to protect their own little patch. The mentality is not one of what is best for the business but rather of protecting their own little empires, this is what we see, the “me” generation in action.
      Now transpose that to the political parties we have now, filled to overflowing with the “me” generation and will say and promise anything you like just to secure their little empire, once in power they just screw everyone around them, even stab their work mates in the back. Zero morals, zero honour, just big fat zeros. The boomer generation will be remembered for their selfishness.

    • CD says:

      01:13pm | 22/02/11

      @Ryan…feeling better now? Such vile invective that I found myself laughing so hard it all ended in tears.

      The baby boomers are the ‘me’ generation according to you? Lololol

      Own up. You’re a short person with little man syndrome’ and you are the typical y gen with possibly the ultimate is self centredness x gen thrown in for good measure. Delusional as well.

      Such vitriol is a health hazard, champ.

    • Ryan says:

      03:11pm | 22/02/11

      @CD: Vitriol, you call that vitriol? You mean vitriol like when you guys spat on the Vietnam veterans returning from the war. Your response was quite engaging yet telling as to the facts espoused by myself, I especially liked the way you actually tried to construct an argument. Sad really, what you lot haven’t figured out yet is that we get the last laugh, we get to choose your old age homes.

    • Reg says:

      05:28pm | 22/02/11

      Thank you Ryan, that was quite lucid with a few minor discrepancies.

      First I am not a baby-boomer I’m considerably earlier than that. Second, the baby-boomers were raised in poverty compared to what you’re used to. The earliest never saw a TV until they were 12 and then it was all Flintstones, Barny Rubble and worse. 

      Their parents greatest desire was that their children would never suffer another depression or another war. With these as goals, along with the need to rebuild Australia, a TRADE was seen as the best method of survival for 98% of boys. Besides that, a university was the realm of the rich.

      With a smidgen of sensitivity you may also be able to see why certain militant Aussie wharf labourers during WWII, were not going to be diverted from the local war of survival by a hot war, with potentially the same result.

      I’m retired now yet during my working life I completely retrained four or five times for different technologies. Nothing has changed today, except the absence of the astute employers who is able to identify the innate ability of the worker to transform his abilities from one field to another.

      Everything is modular today and should lower costs but of course they don’t, they simply enable a greater profit. Remember how computers in banks were going to bring lower banking costs? Never happened.

        Now it’s a quick profit combined with asset stripping then on to the next project. That ability and the infrastructure it brought, is something that the efforts of the baby-boomers did for you.  By the way RG Menzies bent over backwards to stall this process so that he could served the country up as a necessary sacrifice to Great Britain, both before and after the war. His need for an emotional prop all his own.

    • nossy says:

      06:58pm | 22/02/11

      @Ryan - hey Ryan do nossy a favour and brush both shoulders - yeah bruh tose chip off huh fella !  haahahhhahahaahaha You so funny Ryan !

    • Wilson says:

      09:51am | 22/02/11

      “The Taskforce will be nuts and bolts stuff – not merely a slogan or campaign. We’ll be fully prepared to address this issue in Government.”

      Glad to hear you are moving from three word slogans to nuts and bolts policy.
      So, what is the plan announced by Abbott? or do we have to wait until you are in government for the detail?

      So far all you have is “fairer, simpler and more effective”.

      But it is an improvement on “Big new tax” or “Stop the boats”

    • Zaf says:

      10:01am | 22/02/11

      Why must political discourse from the Right always be so scatalogical?

    • Scatologist says:

      10:36am | 22/02/11

      I think the Right is somewhat fixated on the sexual aspects of scatology as in the romanticism of fecal matter.
      Whether in passing admiration, the use of feces in various sexual acts, or simply the act of seeing it. Entire subcultures in sexuality are devoted to this fetish.
      “Shit Happens” when you least expect it. When you are in opposition you have far too much time on your hands, particularly when you only have one policy - The policy of NO.

    • Richard M says:

      10:44am | 22/02/11

      Because of their puerile, simplistic minds, their small vocabularies and the fact that they are filled with hatred and bile - cf Brownshirts, Germany 1930’s.  I can just see Scott Morrison in one of those uniforms with the swastika armband and the forage cap scrawling “Muslims Raus” on a wall.

    • Reg says:

      11:41am | 22/02/11

      Perhaps there’s no need to point out that the politics of division, ... as so blatantly displayed by the right-wing, extends even to the name they choose to describe their lack of cohesion. A -Coalition- of the divided, their NORMAL condition. Liberals and that other addle-brained lot of country bumpkins that hang off their coat-tails and make up the numbers.

      No wonder they’re such a depressing mob. smile

    • AdamC says:

      11:48am | 22/02/11

      All this anti-dumping stuff is highly anti-consumer and is most likely to be (mis-)used as simply a protectionist device. If some silly person wants to sell something below cost, why should that bother me as a consumer?

    • demeter says:

      01:40pm | 22/02/11

      Paul Howes is for all intent and purpose the most powerful man in Australia. Even the Govenor General can sack a PM as easy as Howes. While I accept that the AWU president is generally the top dog while a ALP are in government.

      My concern is that he is from the ultra far left - like commy left.

    • Peter says:

      01:56pm | 22/02/11

      An uneducated, attention seeking, Union thug commy! oh well they all are I suppose.

    • Mark says:

      02:36pm | 22/02/11

      The AWU is part of the Labor Right , you really haven’t got a clue.

    • Mark says:

      02:34pm | 22/02/11

      “Fair enough.  But the question is – why doesn’t he just get on the phone to the woman he installed as PM?  Why doesn’t he remind Julia that he knifed Kevin to get her there and, after all, this is the year “of decision and delivery”.

      Easy Sophie because he hasn’t got the amount of power over the parlimentary Labor Party your mob says he has. He didn’t install the PM.
      The Labor Members of Parliment did , they were the only ones that got a vote. I’m amazed that you don’t understand how our democracy works.

      Others may have an opinion and may Openly voice that opinion like Paul Howes did but they don’t get a vote on the matter.

      Paul Howes is not the all powerful faceless man you make him out to be.
      One he welds no direct power over the PM , he has no vote in parliment.
      Two he is not faceless , we all know who he is and what position he holds.

    • Dann da man says:

      02:59pm | 22/02/11

      Paul howes is a proper goose with his mouth, he sounds like a terrorist Declaring WAR on the Mines- how over the top is that?? I think he is a legend in his OWN mind. As for the polls on gillard being more popular than Tony Abbott, is a furphy.(53% to 31%) Surely there is not that many boofheads out there! As for Tony ,methinks that maybe Scott Morrison should be leader as he says what the MAJORITY of Aussies believe,Scott is a champion followed closely by Cory Bernadi of the senate. Cory should move up to the Reps and then He and Scott can be leader and Deputy of the Libs as they say what true commonsense Aussies know and believe-sorry Tony. Turnbull and Hockey are hopeless and Robb is a delusional embarassment.But getting back to this Howes dude,even his n/paper column shows just how Immature and peanut brained he is. He writes like what he says is smart and truthful ,BUT Pauly baby, you come across as a smartass and believe your own Porkies as does ms gillard.
      Howsey, we know you have aspirations to become PM one day and all fellow union blokes are taken care with labor in being on the front bench which is disgusting and julie baby says you are all her friends(wot a snakepit) Your back must besore from the weight of your EGO it carries,notice I did not say spine as you do not have one you snake. Oh yes, you appear uneducated because of your attitude.

    • mary monica roche says:

      04:08pm | 22/02/11

      In 2020, Paul Howes could use 2020 vision to become the 2020 Australian Liberal Party Prime Minister.

    • Daniel says:

      05:27pm | 22/02/11

      Well the Liberal party had a decade or more to do something about this under John Howard. What happened? He chose to sit on his hands. Get off it Sophie!

    • gordie says:

      06:14pm | 22/02/11

      I would like to meet Howes in the street without his Pacific Islander union comrades behind him.

    • Christian Real says:

      09:08am | 23/02/11

      Daniel
      I agree with you, the liberal party was in for more than a decade and did nothing then, so why should we believe them now,especially Tony abbott who at one time was Worplace Minister in that government..
      Abbott’s only concern now, is about himself, and his ambitions to become Prime minister at any cost,regardless or whether the democracy of this Country is destroyed in the process of gaining the top job.
      Abbott is not ,and never will be a true Leader of the Opposition party or of this Country either.
      One of the facts that shows that Tony Abbott should not be in our parliament is the fact that he opposes everything, and cannot or will not be bipartisan, or even attempt to compromise with the Government over anything.
      Another fact is that Tony abbott has failed to sack two bias racists members(Senator Cory Bernardi and Scott Morrison ) from his opposition team,both have clearly shown that they are more than willing to discriminate against moslum and people from other nations and cultures.
      Does Tony Abbott condone Scott Morrison’s and Senator Cory Bernardi’s racist remarks and comments?, if he does perhaps Tony abbott should resign also.
      Sophie, it is time that the Liberal opposition cleans up its own dirty nest before judging and attacking others.

    • Shelley says:

      07:53pm | 22/02/11

      I support no dumping in Australia. This also applies for agriculure. We’ve dodged for a time contaminated beef, however we’re getting blighted NZ apples! Who knows what other contaminated produce the Gillard Labor quarantine policy will allow in.

      I agree if this was a serious worry for Howes he’d put more pressure on Gillard to change her policy. This is him fluffing his feathers for the followers.

      Also please pop over to GETUP! and light a fire under Gillard for being the Australian PM to lock up the most kids in detention.

      No matter your party colours there’s no excusing Gillard Labor in this. Over 1000 kids locked up in detention. Some in adult jails!

      That’s a new low in Australian history no shrill screeching of ONE NATION! by our hypocrite PM will cover over. 

      Gillard and her government own all by themselves this bungled policy that’s resulting in record numbers of illegal entry vessels trafficking people into overcrowded detention centres. Gillard cannot build these centres quickly enough!

      Don’t let this shamefully incompetent government hide their failing policy behind shrill cries of One Nation!

      Sign up now!

      http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/EndMandatoryDetention&id=1564

      Get children out of detention

    • Steve Smith says:

      08:06am | 23/02/11

      Sophie.
      Hitler’s hatred and dislike for the unions was re-inacted by the Howard government when it came into office wasn’t it.?
      The fact is that the Liberal party is shit scared of the unions and also just don’t want anybody to represent the workers and their rights in their workplaces.
      Malcolm Fraser was also right when he said that there were “Nazi tones in Howard’s anti-terrorism laws’ in “The Canberra Times”,Wednesday November 2nd, 2005.
      However, it would seem that Malcolm Fraser fell short, by failing to see that the Howard’s Government’s ‘WorkChoices” was also akin to laws Hitler brought in under the ‘Enabling Act, of March 23rd, 1933.
      A lot of the brainwashed Liberal supporters that comment in these blogs also fail to see that if it wasn’t for the Unions, then those payrises that they have had over the years would never have happened, and working conditions would hardly have ever changed..
        The fact is that the Howard Government wanted to take Australians and Australia back to the days before unions, shows that they did not care about the workers, as they put their big business mates before the average workers, with their “WorkChoices”,and changes to the IR laws..

    • Christian Real says:

      11:08am | 23/02/11

      Sophie
      It may be time for a woman to step up to the plate as Opposition Leader,and perhaps Deputy Leader Julie Bishop should take up the Leadership challenge.
      Her Deputy Leader could be either Joe Hockey or Malcolm Turnbull, and either one of these two would also fit into the portfolio as Treasurer perfectly.
      The fact that Tony Abbott appears to have condoned both Scott Morrison and Senator Cory Bernardi’s racist remarks and comments,discriminating against moslums and other people from different cultures and nationalities shows that all three of these people are unfit to grace our Parliament or ever represent the Australian people.

    • Christian Real says:

      11:21am | 23/02/11

      Julie Bishop, with her sometimes stone facial expression reminds me a little of Margaret Thatcher,the former English Prime Minister.
      Given the chance,the backing and support I think that Julie Bishop would adapt to the Leadership role of the Liberal Opposition Party very well indeed.
      Sophie Mirabella,you might even make a good public relations Minister in a Bishop Liberal Opposition party

 

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