Just over 12 months ago, when the death toll from the drug war in Mexico was about to hit 10,000, I wrote a column for our website quietly commending Australia’s casual coke-users for playing their own small role in contributing to the violence.

Body of a man slain on the streets of Sinaloa, Mexico. Photo: Getty Images.

It was a simple bit of supply and demand economics and one which was met with scorn by some readers, who disputed any link between their decision to rack up at a Sydney nightclub and the fact that Mexicans are living (and dying) in servitude and terror at the hands of cartels.

It’s unclear how they came to be such authorities on the provenance of their drugs, but these readers asserted that the cocaine you get in Australia has got nothing to do with the cartels which have gone close to destroying Mexico.

They were already wrong then - the Mexicans moved in a couple of years ago on the distribution networks following the erosion of the power of Colombia’s Medellin and Cali cartels - but they are seriously wrong now.

It emerged this week that up to half of the cocaine consumed in Australia’s eastern states over the past two years has been directly imported from Mexico by the Sinaloa cartel.

This, the biggest and most feared of the cartels, is headed by Joaquin Guzman Loera, known as El Chapo (“Shorty”), who was the cover story in The Weekend Australian Magazine last weekend in an extract from Mexican-based journalist Malcolm Beith’s new book The Last Narco.

I read the book this week. It is an extraordinary read but its contents are often so vile and distressing that you’re glad when it comes to an end. The scale and manner of the violence is truly incomprehensible. One of the more extraordinary episodes of this war involved a rival cartel stalking El Chapo to an airport carpark where they opened fire and presumed that they had shot him dead, discovering later that the person they had assassinated was the Cardinal of Guadalajara.

For all these magical-realist moments - which often seem to be the only reason this tragic continuing story ever makes the papers outside of Mexico - there is a mundane consistency to the violence documented in the book.

Such as the bleak fact that the network of cross-border tunnels used by the Sinaloa cartel to transport drugs into the US were largely built by co-opted peasants who were executed on El Chapo’s orders upon completion.

This book made me think about the moral distance which western drug consumers place between their lifestyle and the miserable lives of those people who make it possible.

Companies such as Nestle can face calls for a boycott over a product such as powdered breast milk, or a reputable firm such as Nike can be denounced for using sweatshop labour, yet when it comes to drugs there’s no thought given to the work practices and standover tactics of their manufacturers and suppliers.

In the 12 months since I wrote that column, the death toll has been revised and now stands at 28,228. The figures come from analysis prepared jointly by the University of San Diego and Mexico’s respected Reforma newspaper group.

If you go back to August 21 - that is, the same amount of time Australia has spent waiting for the three independents to show their hand - the following is just a sample of some of the bigger news stories in Mexico:

The nationalised oil company Pemex almost suspended operations after five of its workers were inadvertently kidnapped with 30 drug operatives (they have not been seen since); on September 3, 25 people died in a shoot-out in Tamaulipas; on September 11 the same number died in a shoot-out in Juarez; also in Tamaulipas, 72 bodies were found in a mass grave; on one day, 3200 police were sacked in Mexico City over corruption.

This is violence on a scale which, right now, is probably eclipsed only by Afghanistan, and beats it on a bad day. Again, those Australians who are doing their bit on the demand side should take a bow.

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    • Eric says:

      06:13am | 18/09/10

      The real enablers are the prohibitionists, who create the black market. How many people have been killed by beer smuggling gangs lately?

    • Tom says:

      03:06am | 20/09/10

      For once I agree with you, Eric. It is no surprise people will go to terrible lengths to manufacture and distribute a cheap product with an absolutely huge profit margin - all of it caused by the attempts by governments to control and limit its supply.

      Additionally, it also means most drugs sold in Australia (and elsewhere) are full of cheaper adulterants and hence far more dangerous than they would be otherwise.

    • Colin says:

      04:05pm | 04/02/11

      There are arguments for and against the legalisation of drugs. However for now they are illegal. Nobody forces the users of illegal drugs to consume such drugs. They choose to use drugs derived through violence and murder. The blood is on the hands of such users.

    • Tim says:

      06:52am | 18/09/10

      An alternative conclusion, of course, is that it’s the war on drugs that’s caused this terrible toll in human life. If cocaine was treated the same as, say, tobacco, the above wouldn’t happen.

      You blame who you want, I guess.

    • John Terry says:

      07:26am | 18/09/10

      Those governments doing there bit on the ‘war on drugs’ side should also take a bow. To blame it entirely on users is a mis-representative article. Your article even states that only half of the cocaine imported was from Mexico, so where is the other half coming from? If you have been following the drug war in Mexico you will find a lot of talk from their own government about legalisation, having recently decriminalised ALL drugs in small amounts. Undercut these criminals by making it legal and government controlled. These cartels absolutely love the zero tolerance approach by governments, the harder the governments try to shut them down, the more the price goes up. With higher prices they are making more profit so the dealers are the ones enjoying this war on drugs ans as we know the kingpins never get caught. The news will show a drug seizure of a few kilos of cocaine or heroin and pretend like they are making an impact when 10 times that amount finds it way through. Australia is lagging behind on this front, led by typical ignorance and mass hysteria about drugs and ‘zero tolerance’ approaches. Maybe when we have almost 3 million prisoners and still a huge drug problem like America we will begin to realise how wrong our approach was. Cue the comments from ignorant morons who want every drug user to be killed, yeah lets wipe out a good 90% of the population as that is the rate of people who drink regularly in this country. Oh and cue the ‘its illegal therefore its wrong’ crowd. It used to be entirely legal to own slaves in many countries that does not make it right.

    • Bassett Hound says:

      07:40am | 18/09/10

      The pitbull is back and his snarlling will be his downfall.  Dog fighters can’t change their spots forever.

    • Seano says:

      08:14am | 18/09/10

      Maybe we should think about legalising and taxing drugs and taking the business away from criminals. Spent the taxes gathered on anti-drug education, health and police.

    • The Badger says:

      02:51pm | 19/09/10

      you would need less police seano
      the last thing we want is a police state.

    • Seano says:

      07:22pm | 19/09/10

      We could have better trained, supported, equipped and paid police.

      I don’t support drugs at all but I do wonder if we need a new approach.

    • Sean says:

      10:03am | 21/09/10

      I used to be very anti legalisation but feel now the ‘war on drugs’ is not working and other things need to be tried including legalisation.

      I still have very little sympathy for drug abusers (legal or otherwise)

    • Gran Depine says:

      09:09am | 18/09/10

      I’m sick to death about the inactions of our Governments. Today we are fighting Heroin warlords in Afghanistan. How can these people live a normal life when they get 100 times more money for opium than for dates and vegetables? How can the Peruvian, Colombian and jungle Brazilian farmers survive when they get more money for cocoa base than for cash crops?

      At the domestic level, the police in Australia do not have enough powers to arrest and the courts (with their soft judges) are all too lenient.  Shouldn’t there be a war fought against drug importers, manufacturers and distributors?

      At the local level, cocaine is not a poor man’s drug. One gram that has been diluted three times is now worth $300 - $500 on the streets. The dealers act like large monopolies that control the price and hide stock for the so called “Dry Season” which conveniently is between December and January. Supply and demand…can someone call the ACCC?

      The police are not stupid. They know where it is. They are just too small and are given fly swatter to control a cockroach epidemic. Just go to any nightclub, CBD bar, fashion industry function, racecourse, building site, screen all the lawyers, screen chef and foodies…should I go on? Go to all these doggy car yards that are fronts for money laundries…follow all these pilots travelling between consulate general contacts “on planes” nationally and internationally, all these bullshit jewelery shops and money transfer shops…the normal person out there has no idea. No idea! But the media helps by showing us a photo of a dead Mexican.

    • Peter says:

      09:11am | 18/09/10

      Good work Penbo. Cosseted, self-indulgent Sydney snorters are 100 per cent complicit. Without a ready market, there would be no incentive to generate supply infrastructure on the scale we are seeing in Northern Mexico and Australian recreational cocaine users are no different to their counterparts in the US, Britain, Europe or anywhere people have discretionary income and an attitude that says selfish pleasure prevails over social conscience. In respect of cocaine, that uncaring market supports a business that generates piles of corpses as a waste product of the manufacturing and distribution processes.

    • Paul Chawp says:

      10:07am | 18/09/10

      Prohibition FTW!

    • peter says:

      10:18am | 18/09/10

      it is not the responsibility of australian users, but the anti-drug policies of the ruling class that are responsible for the deaths of these mexicans.

    • Dan says:

      08:35am | 20/09/10

      Indeed. This article is a joke. If Penberthy cares so much about the Mexicans who have been killed, he should be campaigning for illicit drugs to be legalised. Drug users (of which I am not one) have no moral and not much technical responsibility for the deaths of these Mexicans.

    • terben says:

      10:42am | 18/09/10

      Just another example of the consequences of Governments’ interference in the private behaviour of individuals.

    • Bobster says:

      10:57am | 18/09/10

      Well we can congratulate our own governments in the west for their pig-headed “zero tolerances” stances on drugs.

      If we legalised, taxed and regulated it would put these murderous arseholes out of business overnight - but of course, there’s more short-term political capital in pandering to the ignorant upper middle class WASPS who’ve bought the “evil drugs” line hook line and sinker without stopping to think about exactly what it is that makes them evil.

      Don’t just point the finger at the users - the opponents have just as much blood on their hands.

      Can’t have it both ways, the invisible hand touches all things, not just plasma screen TVs and hybrid cars.

    • Austin 3:16 says:

      10:41am | 19/09/10

      Sure it would bobster, like the legal trade in diamonds that stops any explotation / illegality in the trade there.

      People are dying to support western drug habits. I guess if you’re a user and want to salve your conscience you’ve gotta invent another fall guy.

    • Kate says:

      03:42pm | 19/09/10

      Diamonds are a non-renewable resource and the illegal trade is bolstered by scarcity. If cocaine was grown legally on mass, as a plant-based drug and therefore being fast growing and replenishable it would not be subject to the same market conditions. Go buy an economics textbook or a brain.

    • Austin 3:16 says:

      08:53pm | 19/09/10

      Hey Kate, so tell me in your world does anybody illegally download songs or movies ? (they do in the real world) Having a legal trade in any commodity does not invariably stop an illegal trade also occurring. Next you’ll be telling me there’s never been an illegal trade in ivory either.

    • Tom says:

      03:10am | 20/09/10

      Austin, diamonds are a scarce resource, and will always be. Cocaine is only scarce because of artificial government intervention into the market. The costs of production are very low, and due to the government’s prohibition limiting supply, the retail cost is very high.

      Go and look what happened with bootlegged liquor in the US during prohibition for a more apt analogy.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      11:55am | 18/09/10

      We are not going to end the scourge of drugs until such time as the Government build some more gaols (not the 5-star holiday resorts currently in vogue) and the judiciary actually pass some meaningful sentences.

      Make no mistake; gaol is for punishment. All this crap about rehabilitation is just that - crap. Bung them inside for a couple of decades, work them until they drop and then work them some more. Let’s see how many of them feel like reoffending when their bodies and minds are broken. And if they do? Double the sentence next time. And the next. With no remission and no privileges.

      We should also ban court submissions from all these bleeding-heart social workers. This is a level playing field, or as level as it is going to get. Regardless of your background, birthplace, culture or the mood you woke up in or what you had for breakfast; there are no excuses. Do the crime, do the time.

    • The Badger says:

      02:55pm | 19/09/10

      I take it you are a fellow civil libertarian?

      Do you know what a pessimist is? A person who thinks everybody as nasty as himself, and hates them for it.
      George Bernard Shaw

    • Terry Wright says:

      07:32pm | 19/09/10

      Yeah ... Bang ‘em all up in prison ... that’ll fix em.

      Start with the last 3 US presidents, our PM, our opposition leader, the UK PM, the Polish PM and several other world leaders. Also, chuck in Clarence Thomas - the US supreme court judge, Sir Paul McCartney, Sir Elton John, Sir Ian Botham, Sir Richard Branson etc. Then round up Wayne Swan, Malcolm Turnbull and the other few dozen Australian politicians who have tried drugs. After you finish building all the new jails, round up the other 120 million current drug users worldwide and bang them up too.

      I see the US thinks like you. They have 25% of the world’s prison population with 1 in 36 of their citizens incarcerated or on parole. Over 70% are in for drug related charges. And the result of Zero Tolerance and all this prison time ... more drug users per capita than any nation on earth.

      Yep, more prisons, harsher penalties.

    • Tom says:

      03:13am | 20/09/10

      You do realise that prices for drugs is a relationship between supply and demand, and as most are addictive, demand will always be high? Hence, banging up drug dealers will just mean that the price will go up, and the amount of people willing to take the risk of gaol time in return for the huge profits of drug dealing will increase?

    • Komet says:

      12:10pm | 18/09/10

      Cocaine is harmless in moderation, let it in.

      I would rather go to a club full of coke-heads than your average Aussie pub full of drunk bogans looking to bash whoever they think looks weaker than them.

      Australians can no longer handle their alcohol and is destroying our society…and you are writing about cartels on the other side of the world…get some perspective.

      But then, I am guessing David is someone who thinks Cannabis prohibition makes sense.

    • Gabrielle says:

      09:39am | 20/09/10

      It may be harmless in moderation, but is addictive and the addiction nullifies the moderation.

    • Gregg says:

      12:15pm | 18/09/10

      I think I’ve read David where the border region of Mexico beats even Afghanistan and places like South Africa to the top in planet’s most violent location.
      It is about a year or so ago myself when I first started seeing more media references to what was going on and that possibly came about because of the brutality of mass beheadings at the time.
      I know in the US they have their DEA and stringent border policing but you do have to wonder how bad, how long and how far this can develop before Obama gets an agreement going with the Mexican government and develops a well equipped army type fighting force of thousands with helicopters and the works for a flying squad that can literally saturate a particular area, put on a curfew and do air/ground patrols for seek and destroy in cross border action and take these killers on in these gun battles rather than hoping local police will do it.
      It is no wonder police are prepared to take bribes if the alternative is for they and their family to be shot/tortured/beheaded.
      There has been reporting this past week that the Sinaloa is getting into bed with the Triad and Bikies over here and that’s the last thing we need, hopefully not a turf war here.

      Of course you’ll have the Make Drugs free lobby claiming that is the answer too!
      The thing is that the drug trade, be it free or not is going to have a greater effect on the US and here than 911 or Bali and yet governments are not prepared to put the same effort into quelling it.

    • Kassie says:

      01:51pm | 18/09/10

      You’re right, of course. And I imagine that many of those poseur coke-heads will be the first ones to bang on about Nestle, Big Pharma, etc. And while we’re at it, if not for the demand for heroin, poor dills like Scott Rush would not be sitting on death row. So smack-heads take a bow, too.

    • four corners says:

      02:31pm | 18/09/10

      I find it amusing that this week you wrote defending salt. Disregarding the health implications of over-salted food (just about all packaged and processed food is needlessly high in salt - among other things).

      Now you write imploring people to consider their consumption habits and the impacts on the lives of people.

      It seems that you are very picky about what you consume and who it hurts.

      Either you believe in a world where we can consume whatever we want regardless of the consequences or you want to restrict what we consume(death is death - it doesn’t matter if some lardo kills themselves from overeating leaving their family behind and costing our health system billions of dollars or if a drug cartel kills people).

    • Robert Smith says:

      02:58pm | 18/09/10

      Wow…. how journalists miss the point.  So the morale of the story is that if you use illegal drugs you are directly supporting violent drug cartels.  I heard this retoric in the US many years ago and even though it is technicalally correct if misses the point by a “country mile”.

      Yes supply = demand; but government classification makes it illegal and the manner in which it is controlled that attracts the violence.  Given that EVERYONE agres that the current method of drug control has failed completely; why not try another way of control.

      We can all agree it is the illegal nature of these drugs that drives these cartels; then why not make it legal, make it locally and cheaply.  Overnight you can stop the illegal drug trade and force habitual users to get “prescriptions” from doctors so a least their health can be monitored. 

      This may not be the best solution but it would stop the illegal drug trade dead.  It is time for change as your acticle points out the massive failure by current GOvernments in stopping this 21st epidemic.

    • Tom says:

      03:15am | 20/09/10

      Not to mention that if it is legal it can also be taxed, opening up a new revenue stream to offset the costs of drug use to the health system.

    • Gabrielle says:

      09:41am | 20/09/10

      Legalising it won’t stop the black market/cartels

    • Austin 3:16 says:

      01:17pm | 20/09/10

      So did legalising prostitution ever stop the illegal trade still continuing ?

      The idea that once the drug trade is legalised and regulated that would automatically mean that the illegal trade would cease seems incredibly naive

    • Tom says:

      01:40pm | 20/09/10

      Yes, but a large part of the problem with drugs is that they are mostly impure and cut with any number of extra substances that make them far more dangerous than they would be otherwise. Legalising them would likely mean the price was far lower as the artificial constraints on supply and the risk premium on drugs would evaporate. The legal option would also almost doubtlessly remove a large portion of the profit margin for cartels, as most users would prefer to be sure of what is in what they are taking. There is no doubt that the war on drugs has inflated their price hugely.

      Just to give you an example - home brewing is much, much cheaper than buying beer, but it is still not particularly popular. Likewise I’m sure some people buy fake pharmaceuticals, but it isn’t a major problem.

    • rufus says:

      04:51pm | 21/09/10

      Gabrielle, Austin if you’re still reading - in the 1920s-30s the USA prohibited alcohol and there was a huge black market controlled by criminal cartels. Prohibition ended, so did the black market (except at the margins). I rest my case.

    • Austin 3:16 says:

      09:32pm | 22/09/10

      Hey Rufus, if your still reading in the 1980’s in Qld illegal prostitution flourished. Then the Goss government legalised the industry and what do you know the illegal trade still flourishes,  There are probably a heck of a lot of areas where the illegal trade still exists along with the legal.
      There is still both legal and illegal gambling etc.

      Unless your case can cover all of these contingencies it’s incomplete. Rested or not.

    • Doug Graves says:

      04:25pm | 18/09/10

      Funny story about a draft dodging mate,who absconded overseas,wound up in Vietnam anyway ,loading weed into B52,s to go back stateside.Funny how Afghanistan,s only viable export is opium,funny stories about Oliver North and C.I.A. funding, no one runs drugs better than a corrupt government aided by diplomatic immunity.

    • Michael K says:

      04:34pm | 18/09/10

      Excellent article. This has topic has also been discussed a bit on Triple J’s ‘Hack’ program this week. The drug-users who called-in supporting their drug use usually justified their habit by the “everybody has vices” mantra. Yet when a binge drinker buys a slab of Tooheys ‘New’ to drink over the weekend from LiquorLand, Lion Nathan didn’t threaten, terrorise or murder thousands of people to get that product to the retailer’s shelves.

      I don’t particularly care about the health of weekend drug users. Like smokers and drinkers, most drug-takers know the risks associated with the substance they’re using (particularly recreational users; I think addicts can be a different kettle of fish) . That’s fine. What isn’t fine though is the willingness for some drug users to justify their habit on a moral level by comparing it favourably to other human consumption habits. The reality is that drugs are on an entirely different playing field. Drug users are supporting an industry which has blood quite literally on its hands, and make no mistake: those bloody ways of doing business for the cartels are almost institutionalised along the whole supply chain. So I’m happy for weekend drug users to justify their hobby, as long as they’re fully aware of the impacts of the product they’re putting into their body. No comparisons; no sugar-coating, just plain-old “I take drugs because I support the killing and suppression of many innocent people in developing nations. These people are dying so I can have a good time on the weekend, and I don’t feel any pangs of regret at all.” If a user can say that every time they want to take a ‘hit,’ then all the power to them.

    • Tom says:

      03:18am | 20/09/10

      Alcohol drinkers in the US were supporting an industry with blood on its hands during the time of prohibition - the Mafia. Take away prohibition and you take away the artificial shortage and hence exorbitant profit margins of such drugs.

    • rufus says:

      04:49pm | 21/09/10

      When alcohol was prohibited in the US, plenty died in the wars among organised criminals and with the police.

    • Chris L says:

      04:35pm | 18/09/10

      It’s the same as saying we’re responsible for the sweatshops in China and India. The fact is the people responsible are the people who are doing the killing.

    • Greg Kasarik says:

      06:03pm | 18/09/10

      It seems to me that the author here is missing the main point, which is that the blindingly obvious fact that drug prohibition simply does not work. People enjoy mind altered states and have used a variety of compounds to achieve those ends for thousands of years.

      The arbitrary and stupidly American “War on Drugs”, which allows the highly toxic, addictive and aggression causing alcohol as the only legal mind altering compound is the real reason behind the violence in Mexico. Not everyone enjoys alcohol and many would prefer to engage with other substances, but government foolishly prevents this from happening, with the unsurprising result of a thriving black market, highly elevated prices, corruption and violence.

      And of course, the second reason for all of the violence is that while cocaine is transported north, guns, freely available in the USA, are move south in order to ensure the success of the black market opperations. Where there is much money to be made from breaking the law, there will always be sociopaths prepared to go to any extreme to get to the top of the pile, even with the almost certain knowledge that they will eventually be laid low by the competition.

      That cocaine is addicitive and problematic for health is certain, but it is doubtful whether it is as dangerous as alcohol, which kills about 3000 Australians each year and is responsible for huge amounts of social disruption and family violence.

      The fact is that it is not the right of a paternalistic government to decide what adults can and cannot put into their bodies. The sooner our governments start treating us like adults and the sooner we are able to exercise our free will with respect to different drugs, the sooner the horrific death toll in countries like Mexico will come to an end.

    • Heath Karl says:

      06:54pm | 18/09/10

      This article highlights the puerile contradictions of the neoclassical economists. Do the wearers of sweatshop Nike’s have any responsibility for the conditions they are produced in? Similarly are cocaine users responsible, even partially, for the current violence in Mexico? Only under very specific conditions, which Penberthy completely ignores.

      Firstly there must be an acceptance of the rationality of the consumer - which Penberthy unequivocally denies. On the belief of the source of the cocaine, he states the users ‘are seriously wrong’. His numerous pontifications on ‘simple supply and demand economics’, here and elsewhere, are infact based on this predication, and without it, his argument is entirely and completely basis. It is not worth the energy required to display it on a website.

      Ignoring this obvious illogicality, his argument still has no basis, for he completely misunderstands the concept of the market. On shoes, we know there are a variety of manufacturers, and some were engaged in more exploitative practice than others. The consumer indeed has a paradigm of ‘choice’, even though I would otherwise argue the impotence of this ‘choice’, conciseness is required. Dont like the way these shoes are made? choose to buy the other ones. For Cocaine to be analogous, there must be a cocaine market where the prefences of the consumer are enabled to be exercised. For instance, cocaine made (and understood to be made) by gangs, on the other hand cocaine made by, say, a collective. Choice and rationality are supposed to be the foundations of the neoclassical school. For David, they are mere encombrances.

      Why is it that David places so much emphasis on those on the ‘demand side’ without even a passing comment at those on the ‘supply side’? Instead of laying the blame where it deserves to be laid, triply on those that actually control the production process (the gang-capitalists), those that manipulate and distort the operation of the cocaine market by its criminalisation (the government), and the anarchic society which creates the conditions for popular drug abuse (modern capitalism itself), Penberthy launches a Stalinist-style attack on those individuals who within this paradigm, are mearly following their economic preferences.

      This is the sort of hypocracy I have come to expect from a Murdoch publication.

    • Tom says:

      03:21am | 20/09/10

      Um, drug abuse pre - dates modern capitalism by a long, long time. I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but to blame the current economic system for use of psychoactive substances - which have been used in one form or another for pretty much all of recorded human history - is absurd.

    • Heath Karl says:

      01:41pm | 20/09/10

      I think a careful re-reading of my argument is in order. Nowhere did I attempt to rewrite history by ignoring the glaring truth that humanity has consumed intoxicating substances - for pleasure - for countless generations. Nowhere did I engage in such vulgar revisionism. I stated the economic system created the conditions for POPULAR drug abuse.

      If you thought that what I meant was ‘there was no beer in Roman times”, or “Romans only drank in moderation” then you have misunderstood my entire reasoning.

    • Tom says:

      08:50am | 21/09/10

      I don’t have any statistics to back this up, but I suspect that drug abuse figures have remained relatively static across generations. I would like to see what evidence that drug abuse has increased (I take it that is what you mean by saying ‘economic system created the conditions for POPULAR drug abuse’) since the rise of capitalism.

      Doubtlessly this will prove impossible as I don’t think they kept statistics for drug usage figures in pre - modern times.

    • stephen says:

      07:31pm | 18/09/10

      Drug-takers, generally, don’t do a lot of sport, and those that take drugs because of it, shouldn’t do either.
      If we are a nation of sport-lovers, and sport has and is the defining activty of this nation, how do we then reconcile the notion of the aussie that likes to get things done, with the drug-addled fool, addicted to his/her own addiction ?

    • Matt lambert says:

      07:47pm | 18/09/10

      Drug users are no more responsible for the deaths than car owners are responsible for the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. Governments are in denial thinking that prohibition is an answer. By legalizing these drugs we not only safe guard the public from dangerous unknowns but we effectivly stop profits going to very bad people doing very bad things. Don’t blame the user, that’s a cop-out, look at fixing the supply issue.

    • Austin 3:16 says:

      07:12pm | 20/09/10

      Sounds a lot like justification to me. How to have the habit and not the guild.

    • Dan says:

      12:14am | 21/09/10

      Austin 3:16, it’s not a justification because there is no guilt. I don’t take drugs, but if I did, I would feel no guilt as I have no responsibility for the people who died in Mexico.

    • austin 3:16 says:

      12:04pm | 22/09/10

      Hey Dan, Sounds a lot like justification to me.

    • Kordez says:

      11:19pm | 18/09/10

      Coincidently, I watched Blow last night while throwing back my first bottle of Jimmy this weekend, George Jung (played by JD) and the late Pab’s always rocks my boat.

      Australia has more important issues to worry about then drug war deaths in Mexico.. Just like the US Government, which evidently are more willing to spent a trillion bucks on warfare in Iraq than reduce an ever increasing “Mexican produced” drug death toll within their own nation. Australia is no innocent here, we do the same thing for political gain and one day when the nation is royally F’d, we’ll start regulating the sale of addictive substances to our own population despite the resulting deaths… Oh wait… We already do.. But our drug related deaths are a lot less instant and equally justified because instead of funding death we profit from it and fund nation wide health reforms, making it less evil.. right?

      Perhaps we’ll have a real war on drugs with Mexico, one day.

    • common sense says:

      06:39am | 19/09/10

      well if there was no ‘war on drugs’ there wouldn’t be so many deaths. This is what an unregulated black market creates. It was the same under alcohol prohibition. The War is much more dangerous than the Drug ... always has been.

    • Mary wide bay says:

      07:40am | 19/09/10

      Thank you David. Wakey wakey to the elitist druggies out there.

    • John says:

      09:16am | 19/09/10

      Well put mate.

    • Bill says:

      10:20am | 19/09/10

      You wonder why drug users (Cocaine users) have no conscience about where there product comes from and it’s affects on society beyond the nights entertainement it provides them?  Usually users are either a) Junky’s who don’t think about anything beyond getting the stuff, or b) Cool Catz who hang out at trendy nightlclubs with their head so far up their ar$e they think people actually think they are cool because they did a line of Cocaine in the toilets

    • Tom says:

      03:25am | 20/09/10

      Do you wonder which repressive Middle Eastern dictatorship is being propped up by the petroleum powering your car? Do you wonder about the sweat shop workers working in appalling conditions to produce your clothing and cheap electronics? Do you wonder about the animals growing up in appalling factory farms to put food on your plate?

      I don’t think there would be a person in Australia whose consumption habits have not financed some questionable activity in one way or another.

    • mike says:

      10:39am | 19/09/10

      It makes just as much sense to blame the drug laws for all those deaths as it does to blame the users. In fact, it makes more sense. When alcohol was illegal during U.S. Prohibition we had the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre but no one blamed drinkers for that.

    • Terry Wright says:

      11:46am | 19/09/10

      “Companies such as Nestle can face calls for a boycott over a product such as powdered breast milk, or a reputable firm such as Nike can be denounced for using sweatshop labour, yet when it comes to drugs there’s no thought given to the work practices and standover tactics of their manufacturers and suppliers.”

      Downplaying the Nike’s and Nestle’s of this world but highlighting drug cartels - to support the claim that end users are somehow to blame - is simply disingenuous. I could safely bet my house that most readers here have purchased at least a few items that have involved the death of someone in the production process.

      In the same way that government action could shut down the sweatshops, child worker factories or forced labour camps, we could also force the drug cartels out of the drug trade. It’s this lack of action by governments that is the real cause not the end consumers. End drug prohibition and these cartels will be instantly out of the illicit drug trade.

      The end user should not have to research all the businesses and laws involved in providing a product. It’s the role of the government to make sure any product delivered to us is safe and made ethically. If it’s not happening with a product like drugs that is used by hundreds of millions of people worldwide, then there’s a problem up the line. Remember that we used to use heroin, cocaine, cannabis, amphetamines etc. before the dangerous cartels. It’s the flawed strategy of governments that allowed powerful cartels to take over, not the consumer.

      Singling out drug users as evil and immoral just doesn’t cut it in 2010. The moralistic approach to drug use has been a tool for the sensationalist media and point scoring politicians for too long. This is the job for moral crusaders and hypocritical religious types not rational thinking adults.

    • Peter says:

      05:21pm | 19/09/10

      It’s really instructive to see how many drug apologists have been flushed out by this article. Most, to my astonishment, still peddle the antiquated line that says the problem is caused by the classification of certain substance as illegal.
      Last time I looked the drugs which cost society the most in terms of dollars and wasted lives are alcohol and tobacco - the legalized drugs. Yet I never hear the drug apologists conceding that legalizing cocaine and heroin and cannabis etc might mean that more people would be under the influence of a wider range of toxins more often. It’s as if the practical consequences of the policies they endorse are not a relevant part of the debate. How they think our society will be better off with more wasted people in it is a delusion they can keep to themselves. 
      There’s something really ugly and uncaring about this attitude. It’s basically saying: ‘Let society take its chances’. Personally I think societies do a lot better when people care about each other and have the guts to choose to resist. But the drug apologists have been around for a long time.
      Peel the skin off an apologist and you’ll find an appeaser, one defined by cowardice and the morality free zone.
      For them the only solution that will work is one that doesn’t involve judgement. They seem to have forgotten that a culture that does’t resist that which threatens it is doomed. Or maybe they just simply want to believe there’s no problem that can’t be solved by making everything easier for everyone. Thousands of years of human nature viewed through the pages of history says they are wrong.

    • mike says:

      09:18pm | 19/09/10

      Peter, the issue raised here was the murders committed by illegal drug cartels and who is responsible. If the drugs were legal those murders would not occur. There are no murders committed for control of the alcohol trade today but there were many during Prohibition. Were the drinkers to blame? If you think so then perhaps you should stand for your principles and tell us you want to make alcohol (and tobacco) strictly illegal.

    • Terry Wright says:

      11:59pm | 19/09/10

      Simple question for you Peter: If hard drugs such as heroin or cocaine were legalised would you be likely to use them?

      Don’t bother, we already know the answer.

      Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP) ran this survey for likely voters in the US and 99% said no.

      Nearly every country that has relaxed drug laws have had a decrease in drug use which sort of debunks your theory. There is no evidence that decriminalisation or legalisation will increase use. The truth is that most people who want to use drugs already do so.

      And why do we forget that the lowest level of drug use in all countries was before prohibition. Australia had 47 known heroin addicts in 1954 when heroin was banned. We now have over 80,000.

      “Most, to my astonishment, still peddle the antiquated line that says the problem is caused by the classification of certain substance as illegal.”

      No, most people wanting drug law reform say the problem is how we apply the laws e.g. basing policies on lies, exaggerations and ideology, military style policing, treating users as criminals, extreme penalties and not treating addiction as a medical issue.

      Finally, you are claiming that drug use is a moral issue and those who take drugs have fewer ethics, no compassion and are less caring. Sums up your whole argument really.

    • ben says:

      03:33pm | 23/09/10

      Unfortunatly, when it come to drugs someone is going to get hurt.

      the only question is would you rather mass violence such as murders, which are often inflicted on innocent people either by acciendent or mistaken identity, or would you rather the drug user, fully educated on the subject and aware of the risks, hurts themselfs?

    • Elbo says:

      06:23pm | 19/09/10

      Aussies like drugs, so what? Legalize the shit and be done with it. Australians responsible for Mexican drug deaths is stretching the Butterfly effect too far,

    • Sol says:

      06:40pm | 19/09/10

      Typical Just Say No/War on Drugs mentality: blame the drug user for the problems of our draconian drug laws.

    • Russell says:

      06:55am | 20/09/10

      All drug users have a choice: If they continue using, buying and supporting this barbarous industry, then they are complicit (no, responsible for) murder. No one is forcing them to buy drugs.
      Alternatively, they could try and change the laws, which would have to apply across the entire globe. But if they continue to use while these laws exist, all the evasive ducking and weaving, blaming prohibitionists, “the ruling class: (are they serious?) and twaddle peddled in this forum by people trying to justify themselves, is just that: twaddle.

    • sheedy's left foot says:

      07:45am | 20/09/10

      Never understood why in places like Afghanistan, the western governments don’t just buy all of the opium crops at a decent price. Then turn it all into pain relief medication.

      Lots of cheaper generic pain drugs available and a legal market for opium poppies.

    • Sally says:

      10:42am | 20/09/10

      So many people seem to argue for the decriminalisation of drugs. If there is evidence that the decriminalisation of drugs lowers rates of drug consumption, then an overhaul of policy should be implemented. However, not many posters on this site are providing any actual evidence for their argument.

      The other issue is that what happens when kids start taking cocaine, methamphetamine etc and have psychotic episodes… Who are we going to blame? The government for not restricting supply? My feeling is that the same people who blame the government for criminalising drugs (and therefore apparently creating the drug industry) would be the same people who immediately point fingers at authorities when kids have overdoses, turn psychotic, and destroy their lives.

      Moral of the story is I think that as individuals and a community we should take a little bit of responsibility and stop blaming governments for every difficult situation the world faces.

    • Rowdy Mason says:

      11:23am | 20/09/10

      Actually Portugal decriminalised drugs and found that this policy over all LOWERED drug use in teenagers AND doubled the amount of people seeking treatment for their addiction AND lowered instances of HIV and HEP C transmission related to drug use.

      The lesson of Mexico is that prohibition creates devasting criminal power. The US worked this out with alcohol and Capone. In Sydney strict alcohol laws created a ‘sly grog’ trade that enriched criminals and encouraged associated crime and police corruption. It’s the height of selfishness to wring our hands about addiction and abuse of drugs in our own societies while prohibition is literally ripping Mexican society apart.

    • cameron says:

      11:38am | 20/09/10

      It’s true that guilt tends to drive addictive behaiviours ‘underground’ and makes reuse significantly more probable.  Legalising would allow people who genuinely are addicted and want to stop greater opportunity to do so. Legalising would improve quality (reduce danger etc).

      However, just because controlling a dangerous substance is difficult does not mean we should simply legalise it.  Alcohol, pokies and cigarettes are all addictve and all legal.  there are genuine issues around community abuse of all three yet State dependence on tax revenues makes the government unmotivated to reduce peoples dependence and abuse.

      As a community, do we not have the capacity to define something as ‘unwanted’ and therefore commit to stopping it?  Comparing illlicit and addictive drugs with people’s choices to consume salt in their food etc is not comparing apples with apples.

    • Markus says:

      12:58pm | 20/09/10

      I actually believe it is apples with apples.

      According to an NDS survey in 2004, more than half of Australians (male and female) aged between 20 and 49 had tried marijuana, despite its illegality.
      Much like with salt, just because someone is making an extremely loud argument for its banning, does not mean they represent the majority of the population in this view.

    • James says:

      01:45pm | 20/09/10

      Unreal, isn’t it? This is what Australia has become. A quick scroll down the comments and you get “not our fault” repeated ad infinitum.

      We will apologise for deeds done for generations past. We will repent for our crimes against Gaia (whether they are responsible for the imagined consequences or not). Because as a collective we can can avoid direct penance. But when someone suggests that our drug habits might be contributing to deaths both in Australian cities and around the world, heaven forbid that we accept any sort of responsibility for it. It’s the Guvment. Drugs are harmless (um, in “moderation”). NO! Drugs are harmful. You knew it the first time you popped an eccy or snorted a line. Yet you did it anyway. Drug dealers are in the business of killing each other. You know this, yet you buy from them anyway.

      YOU are creating the demand, not the Government, YOU. The collective drug users. Sure, decriminalisation MAY decrease use, and it MAY decrease the violence associated with supply, but quit the “It’s not my fault” crap, because it IS your fault and it’s high time you addressed your role in it.

    • JJT says:

      05:22pm | 20/09/10

      I agree James, and I have a quote for you!!!

      “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”.

      People will justfify anything so they don’t have to face up to the fact they are directly responsible for it. If they think it’s a problem, and had a backbone, then simply don’t buy it, but hey its easier to shift blame elsewhere isn’t it.

      Petty users are nothing but sheep, common as the next person, followers and ordinary, its people that don’t take it that are unique, because they aren’t kidding themselves about the reality of it.

    • mike says:

      11:18am | 21/09/10

      Alcohol and tobacco are every bit as harmful. Make them illegal and even more harm would result because this would stimulate a massive criminal trade resulting in the kind of violence occurring in Mexico. This happened in the U.S. during Prohibition and as a result Prohibition was eventually repealed which ended the criminal alcohol trade and associated shootouts. Thus it appears that YOU and your prohibitionist ilk are the real problem, not users.

    • JJT says:

      04:00pm | 21/09/10

      Spoken like a true user Mike. I and my “ilk” contribute no part to the problem because I don’t USE drugs, nor do I set policy on drugs.

      But here is the real question, if you think it is so harmless and people should be free to take it, when your kids turn a legal age, would you take them down to the park, cut up a line and say “here darling, give this a go its harmless”?

      I fear how someone of your “ilk” would answer that question!

      When it comes to believing if it is “harmless” I’m pretty sure i’ll hedge my bets with government and their position, than some idiot who isn’t intelligent enought to realise that snorting white powder that contains drain cleaner is probably not the best idea!

    • mike says:

      04:31pm | 21/09/10

      You betray pathetic ignorance in your stated assumption that I must be a user of illegal drugs simply because I blame the drug laws for the carnage of the drug trade. I am most certainly not a drug user. My opinion comes only from a reasoned assessment of reality - something you seem incapable of doing.

    • mike says:

      04:34pm | 21/09/10

      Oh and by the way, JJT, where did I ever say illegal drugs are harmless? I said no such thing, only that alcohol and tobacco are also harmful, and that laws illegalizing such substances create more harm by promoting the kind of carnage seen recently in Mexico. Would you give a little kid cigarettes or booze? Your own question thrown back at you.

    • Russell says:

      01:45pm | 20/09/10

      The “tax and regulate” notion was one I once subscribed to. But our governments’ addiction to the revenue the alcohol and gambling industries provides doesn’t auger well for the model! In fact its not hard to imagine a worse nightmare scenario, rather like the ones Philip K Dick wrote about all those years ago. Pointing figures of blame and ringing our hands and saying “oh woe is us” is all very satisfying, but ultimately the responsibility is ours, the consumers.

      We don’t have to support these criminals. No one is forcing us to. At least that’s what I think Penbo is saying, and I agree.

    • Natural Family says:

      07:38pm | 20/09/10

      I agree with the article.  One little point though.  Nestle don’t produce powdered breast milk.  They make powdered formula milk which is given to babies instead of breast milk.  That isn’t a problem when it’s used in hygienic conditions by mothers who can’t breastfeed.  It is a problem when pushed on mothers in the Third World as being better than breastmilk resulting in babies becoming ill and even dying from gastroenteritis, or being malnourished from overdilution of the formula once the free formula runs out.

    • Mark says:

      05:37pm | 21/09/10

      Ken Crispin QC and former supreme court judge on the war on drugs.

      “KERRY O’BRIEN: That implies that you believe that the smart way to go in the end is some kind of decriminalisation or legalisation of drugs is that the case?

      KEN CRISPIN: Yes it is. I do.

      If you look at the prohibition era, it was confidently assumed this would cut down on the supply of alcohol. It didn’t. The use of alcohol exploded during the prohibition era. All it did was placed a great deal of money in the hands ever criminal gangs which flourished and you had colourful figures like Al Capone emerge.

      The same has happened on a grander scale with drugs. The drug usage has exploded during the war on drugs. To quote one British figure ‘the number of heroin users over about 30 years increased from 2000 to 300,000.’ The prevalence of drugs has exploded to the point that the prices have fallen so cocaine, in real terms, now costs about a sixth of what it did at the start of the war on drugs. Heroin costs about a tenth of what it did on the start of the war on drugs.

      And all the way around the world the countries that have the most rigorously enforced drug laws tend to have the highest rate of usage.”

      http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2911436.htm

 

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