She sits in a prison, thousands of kilometres away from her family and friends. She doesn’t speak the language and doesn’t think much of the food that’s served up to her.

There's more than just physical bars on Schapelle Corby's prison cell. Photo: Luckman S Bintoro

Her only crime was to try and bring drugs into a foreign country to make a bit of money and now she is stuck in a foreign jail for what must seem like an eternity.

How could you not feel sympathy for her? Easy. Her name isn’t Schapelle Corby.

It’s Thialal Toure, a woman from Senegal, who last year tried to smuggle a kilo of cocaine into Sydney under her wig and in her bra.

The drugs were worth about about $500,000 on the street but to her it was worth only about $17,000, money she says she needed to pay off debts and to pay for her sick daughter.

Luckily for her she was caught when she arrived in Australia, and not as she passed through Hong Kong where she may never again have seen the light of day.

And although she’ll be out and homeward bound before Corby is even half way through her sentence, her diabetic daughter is growing up in Paris without her mother.

She is just one of scores of other foreigners in Australian jails, many on drugs charges, who we expect to serve the time imposed by our courts before being booted out of the country.

There are about 200 or so Aussies, give or take the odd travel insurance rorter or bar mat thief, in prisons around the world. For the most part, they remain anonymous, doing the time other foreign courts have imposed on them before being returned home.

But it’s different with Schapelle. The beautician from Brissie who is a bit sad, a bit mad, a bit innocent and, perhaps most importantly, a bit pretty is a different case.

The ``Bring Schapelle Home’’ campaign seems to rest solely on the idea that she’s a damsel in distress who needs rescuing.

Those who can look after themselves are left to do just that. Renae Lawrence, the Bali Nine drug trafficker, has sucked up the 20 year sentence she’s been given appears to have taken the approach to be a model prisoner and get every remission she can.

If only she were a prisoner who looked like a model she’d be on t-shirts with Corby.

It’s hard not to feel sorry for Corby. She cuts a pathetic figure and images of her looking dishevelled and clutching a teddy bear are certainly moving.

A report, paid for by the Corby family and New Idea, by leading Australian psychiatrist associate professor Jonathan Phillips, paints a disturbing picture of a woman who is losing her already slippery grip on reality.

He attests that she’s not bunging on and that without proper medical treatment her condition will worsen ``with the risk of calamity’‘.

Dr Phillips believes she should be transferred as a prisoner to Australia and treated in a secure hospital setting or at least go to a psychiatric facility in Bali.

She may not be putting it on but you can bet every other Aussie would soon start licking the windows if that’s all it took to get a get out of jail free card.

There is no doubt Corby is paying a very heavy price for a crime that would barely have rated mention had she been caught on the way out of the country.

But what about the ``calamity’’ facing Scott Rush, Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran. Those three young Australian men, members of the Bali Nine, await execution for their role in attempting to smuggle heroin into Indonesia.

I would rather see the government focus its efforts on having their lives spared than pander to more stunts by a desperate family.

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    • Rationalist says:

      06:30am | 26/08/09

      We should not tolerate the illegal and immoral act of drug smuggling. We should take the Indonesian lead with adopting stronger domestic punishments for smuggling and dealing.

      You do the crime, you do the time (or get shot, which in some cases is good since drug smugglers are such detritus).

    • Bea Jay says:

      07:24am | 26/08/09

      This blog confirms my suspicions. As soon as I heard a Psychiatrist had assessed Corby I wondered if her family had set-up &/or paid for the assessment. Apparently all else has failed for team Corby, so now they are trying the ‘Alan Bond’ approach. Remember the scenes of him drooling vacantly outside court while his Defence team insisted he was completely looney? Funny how he has recovered nicely & is now re-building his fortune. Hopefully Indonesian & Australian authorities can see through this sham & do not waste any tax payer money to bring her home.

    • Voxpop says:

      08:15am | 26/08/09

      Indonesia’s justice and prison system is a total hypocrisy - they give death sentances for drug trafficking and yet the prison is one of the biggest suppliers of drug production in the country.  Their prison system is nothing like what we know here - the men and women are put in together, there’s rape and prostitiution, corruption and bribery, filth and squalor oh and drugs in abundance.

      As far as drugs go the model is about supply and demand.  These traffickers would be out of a job if so many people weren’t interested in taking drugs.  Now I think it’s unbalanced to be so extremely spiteful and put so much on their shoulders - instead of blaming the trafficker for the situation that finds someone addicted to drugs how about the drug taker themselves shoulders the responsibility for their own stupid actions.  I understand that families of these people want to blame someone and people like Shappelle and Bali 9 are easy targets to vent on but they are young too and make mistakes in life. 
      As Australian citizens I would prefer that they were brought home to serve an agreed sentance.

    • Margaret Gray says:

      09:01am | 26/08/09

      They sit free, probably in Thailand; most likely in Vietnam.

      Two gutless Asian (Australian?) thugs who murdered an innocent Australian man outside a Brunswick convenience store.

      Luke Mitchell’s only ‘crime’ was intervening in an argument that appeared too one-sided.

      Being in the wrong place, at the wrong tme.

      His bravery cost him his life.

      And our authorities, those that are employed to protect us, let them go.

      And, more importantly, did nothing to stop them.

      Schappelle’s crime was committed on foreign soli. 

      She deserves the full prosecutorial punshment meted out to her under the laws of the country she deliberately chose to violate.

      Similarly the “Bali Nine”.  The insidious and destructive ‘industry’ of which they are a key and intrinsic part attracts little sympathy from most Australians.

      If you want to “Bring Them Home”, apply your efforts to pressuring the government for the extradition back to Australia of the killers of Luke Mitchell.

      While your doing that agitate for the return of Puneet Puneet, another foreign national who deems it acceptable to commit a heinous crime on Australian soil and then flee the country to escape justice.

    • Liz says:

      09:02am | 26/08/09

      While it would be good to see all prisoners wherever they are treated with compassion,drug smugglers had choice in what they did and successful smuggling leads to the death and addiction of many others.

    • Simmo says:

      09:38am | 26/08/09

      I am happy to see that someone out there has the conviction to write about what we are all thinking “What about the other Aussies in OS prisons”...

      What they have been convicted for is still criminal acts and they deserve their punishment but maybe the odd story about the other people and less saturation of stories on “poor little schapelle” might make the general public less cynical towards her and her odd ball family…

    • Dani says:

      11:11am | 26/08/09

      “Her only crime was to try and bring drugs into a foreign country to make a bit of money and now she is stuck in a foreign jail for what must seem like an eternity.”

      Only crime? Surely this is trivialising drug smuggling. It is a serious issue which deserves serious penalties. While there are some cases for sympathy, I don’t think either of these women qualify. They knew what they were doing and deserve the consequences.

    • Abdul Aziz says:

      11:25am | 26/08/09

      She transported some plant material. It grows in the ground.

    • Gerri says:

      11:34am | 26/08/09

      After seeing what drugs have done to my daughter and how they have affected my grandchildren - drug smugglers that get caught can rot in hell for all I care.

    • Dragnet says:

      11:47am | 26/08/09

      “Her only crime was to try and bring drugs into a foreign country to make a bit of money and now she is stuck in a foreign jail for what must seem like an eternity.”

      Her only crime?  Are we expected to be sympathetic to others who profit from killing people?

      As a country when did we lose the plot?

    • mick says:

      11:47am | 26/08/09

      leave her there. anyone that attempts to smuggle drugs in deserves any punishment that’s dished up. stop reporting on her.  her family seems to love to drag some new $hite up every few months to try and tug at the australian public’s heart strings. they’ll keep doing it until they succeed. then we’ll have to put up with her doing the media rounds.

    • Saint says:

      11:54am | 26/08/09

      I think the thing that is always overlooked in the discussion of Corby is the fact that her trial was a joke by any measure and the punishment is grossly out of proportion to the crime, if she commited it. I, personally, have no idea whether she did or didn’t, but I do know that she did not receive a fair or even adequate trial and that is the injustice.

    • James Reynolds says:

      12:15pm | 26/08/09

      I feel sorry for the families whose child/brother/sister/father/mother overdoses on the drugs that these cockroaches smuggle into different countries. Corby and any other drug trafficker can rot in hell.

    • John says:

      12:31pm | 26/08/09

      Bring her home. Its simple.  In Bali thanks to bribery she regularly goes shopping and has all the food she likes and clothes (rat infested hold jokes make me laugh) as well as unlimited media access.

      If she comes home she has to serve the full sentence (under the normal prisoner exchange conditions we have no control over remission or sentences - she serves the full wack) in a real prison where she can’t bribe the guards for a bit of shopping time.  That would also mean the media can’t bribe them to access her so she would have to sit and rot in jail for the next 15 or so years of her life.

      BTW the trial was not a joke, the only people pushing that line are the Corby family - she would almost certainly have been convicted here but of course we don’t give sentences like she got.  More’s the pity.

      I think she should be glad she didnt get the death penalty - all those signs at the airport are not there for decoaration you know.

    • Garry says:

      01:20pm | 26/08/09

      Why oh why do we have to protect court proven criminal people committing crimes in another country? We may call their punishment unjust but was it? we may call the prisons unjust but why do we care now that an Australian is in one? The only time we should intervene is where we as Australia see that the conviction was unjust and wrong dealt with by criminal or politically motived courts or government - this court or country is none of that and Indonesia proved that by having the process so open.

      We would not stand for another country dictating to us on a criminal case where their national was caught, tried and imprisoned legally under our system, why then should we change others?

      Sure there prisons may be unsanitary, crooked or whatever but maybe that would be a deterrent.

    • J says:

      01:24pm | 26/08/09

      Didn’t she refuse the opportunity for independent DNA testing?  Hardly the actions of an ‘innocent’.

    • John Ryland says:

      01:38pm | 26/08/09

      Oh wow!

      Can someone tell me how many people have actually died from marijuana overdose? Anyone? Come on I am waiting…..and I am not including the idiots who have had a bad trip on strong weed. You will get over it.

      Not one person has ever died from marijuana use. Marijuana is NOT physically addictive. Fact is, that it is illegal and stygmatized in most countries (like Australia and Indonesia) because of the need to suck up (so to speak) to outdated fascist US anti-drug say so. I am talking about the financially bankrupt US of A, spending like a drunken gambler on winning the WAR ON DRUGS, the WAR ON TERROR, the WAR ON (insert pointless unwinnable crusade here)

      So what I am saying is that even if she broke the law, the law sucks, and marijuana smuggling should never be put in the same basket as smuggling addictive and lethal drugs like heroin cocaine methamphetamines etc.

      Please look at all the facts about drugs before you put forward an opinion.

    • Terry Wright says:

      02:03pm | 26/08/09

      Doesn’t anyone else find the Schapelle Corby situation unbelievable coming from a so called modern society? Looking through the responses from readers in the Murdoch papers (and now here as well), I struggle to find many comments that resemble that of an adult. e.g. “Do the crime, do the time” or “we should respect another nation’s laws” and my favourite, “think of the lives she would have ruined those drugs”. Then there’s “let her rot in hell/jail”, “she’s just seeking attention” and “don’t bring her back to Australia where the prisons are holiday camps”. Did I mention, “Do the crime, do the time”?

      First of all, what sort of modern society gives 20 years imprisonment for 4.1 kgs of cannabis? It wouldn’t be tolerated here in Australia or most of the west so why is it OK because it’s in Indonesia? Those that say we have to respect Indonesia’s sovereignty and laws really expose themselves as hypocrites. I bet 99% of them would not support an Australian woman being jailed in some Middle Eastern country for not having a chaperone. I bet they would be appalled at being flogged for drinking a glass of wine or being stoned to death for having an affair. Excusing the barbaric behaviour of a country because the one particular crime irks them or the guilty party is over exposed in the press, is just childish. Indonesia’s judicial system is corrupt and I wonder if the Schapelle haters supported Indonesia’s laws when the spiritual leader of the Bali Bombers was only given 3 years jail?

      I also find it hard to grasp how “civilised” people can want anyone to suffer beyond our imagination? It’s like the internet is some sort of alternative reality or a video game where you play out your blood lust fantasies. The difference is that when it’s over, you can’t just turn it off. People in these sub-human prisons are still suffering there as you snuggle up in your soft, warm bed. Is this the future - Infotainment? The hate for Schapelle and others convicted of drug related crimes is sickening. Why make such strong, degrading comments about someone when they know very little about their situation? Is her crime that bad that she should “rot in hell” or left to deteriorate with a severe mental health disorder? Who would make such comments about fellow Australians or other humans beings?

      Much of the spite seems to be because of drugs. Is cannabis a dangerous drug that, “leads to the death and addiction of many others” or “are we expected to be sympathetic to others who profit from killing people?”. Any rational person knows this is just ridiculous but many in the public still hold on to the misinformation and drug hysteria about cannabis that the government and media has hammered into us for so many decades. In moderation, cannabis would have to be one of the safest recreational drugs on this planet. And so what if it was heroin or cocaine? Most dealers and drug mules are addicts who have a choice to commit burglaries or violent crimes but instead go down the path of smuggling or selling to others who are going to buy drugs regardless. Surely this is a better choice and contrary to some comments here, a victimless crime.

      A modern society is based on science, common sense and humanity ... something that harsh critics of Schapelle Corby have failed to adapt to.

    • Stumped says:

      02:05pm | 26/08/09

      @John Ryland (at 1:38) the facts are simple. She was tried, convicted and sent to prison for breaking the law. Whether her actions were moral or immoral Is irrelevant. She is imprisoned for breaking the law. If she didn’t like the law she shouldn’t have gone there. Feel free to lobby for the change of the law if you so choose, but that wont undo the fact that she broke the law and is paying for it.

      If you want to debate facts go for it - but remember she is in prison, not because of morality or right/wrong, but because she broke the law. The facts about the effects of drugs are irrelevant to legality.

      I’m sure that you could make an argument that the law sucks, that’s fair enough. It’s still the law and no amount of petulant stamping of feet or screaming “that’s unfair” will change it.

      I think most would argue that ‘cheating on your partner’ is immoral, but I don’t see any law against it in this great country, or are you going to suggest that it is morally acceptable to have an affair?

      Courts are about law, not morality.

    • Susan says:

      02:37pm | 26/08/09

      @ John Ryland - not deaths, but marijuana is a known cause (not just a correlation, but cause) of schizophrenia and psychosis. With associated legal and health costs. Plus, if you smoke it there are the health costs of smoke in your lungs. It’s not as harmless as people who like to think it’s “safe” argue.

      As for Schapelle - she probably wishes her family would SHUT UP. I’m certain that if they spent less time being hysterical and accusing all of Indonesia of corruption and the rest, she would have been given a smaller sentence and more sentence cuts by now. Her mother and sister are revolting money-grabbing types who have made her life more difficult.

      Mind, I’ve been convinced since day one that she was guilty. She was caught with the stuff (I remember reading that at the airport when caught she was asked if it was her bag, said “yes”, then when they went to open it she changed her mind - before they could see what was inside) and there has never been any real evidence to suggest otherwise. At best, she’s covering for another family member.

      Interesting that in the last year the family seem to have stopped claiming her innocence, and gone the insanity route instead…

    • John Ryland says:

      02:53pm | 26/08/09

      Mz Corby was caught in a serious infraction of the law, yes. But I like weed, and I know many people (right through all levels of society) who find no harm in the occasional use of marijaua. It is people like us though that are the sneaks and hypocrits, yes? We need the dope growers and smugglers to enjoy that moment of blissful happiness and relaxtion. Albeit illegally.

      In the best of all worlds, there would be no weed and this whole argument would be non-existant. There would also be no alcohol, tobacco, porn and women would be forced to cover from head to foot, to prevent excess desire and reckless emotions in the menfolk. Adulterers would be stoned to death too.
      What is the point? I am not sure, but there is nothing more certain than that serious prohibition and serious punishment will never prevent the enjoyment of the illegal/immoral activities. Why not adopt an enlightened approach, and regulate it rationally instead?  People like me would love to engage in and support civil protest on this issue, but prefer to remain anonymous and fire off potshots/petty comments than put ourselves out there, all too careful to avoid becoming vulnerable to law enforcement authorities whose biggest joy in life is to play god and wreck peoples lives in the name of making fun illegal.

    • Simon R A Duffell says:

      02:59pm | 26/08/09

      I’m against recreational drug use of any kind, but 20 years for a bag of grass is not a fair sentence. Personally these sort of extreme attitudes would put me off going to Bali more than the possibiity of terrorism would.  Who wouldn’t go mad in a Balianese jail?

    • ANDIKA says:

      03:53pm | 26/08/09

      If they a dumb enough to try and smuggle drugs in and out of country’s like Indonesia/Singapore then they reap what they sow if they get caught.

      The lesson here is I suppose is if you are going to smuggle drugs, then do it here were you get a slap on the wrist vs either a bullet in the back of the head or a life sentence behind bars.

    • Stumped says:

      04:01pm | 26/08/09

      @Terry Wright (at 02:03pm) - Just because we have our laws here does not mean that they should have our laws there. If you accept that argument, then logically they too would be able to claim that we should have their laws here. I personally don’t want to go down that path.

      Yes I do support people being held and convicted under the laws of the places that they choose to visit. If you don’t like their laws DON’T GO! For that reason I refuse to travel to many asian or middle eastern countries - I respect their right to enforce the laws of their countries, and choose to stay away. Just as I choose to live in this country, and be bound by the laws of this country.

      Now whether their judicial system is corrupt or not is a separate issue but the same rule applies: If you think that their judiciary is corrupt STAY AWAY. 

      Your use of the word ‘civilised’ is a classic argumentum ad hominem, suggesting that because someone believes something different (in this case more conservative) to you that they are not civilised. I’m sure that it will come as some cold comfort that I make the same argument in person as I do here.

      Having said that I agree that the hatred shown towards this criminal is perhaps disproportionate to the ‘crime’ through the eyes of the average Australian on the Manly Ferry. However, as mentioned earlier this is not a question of morality but of legality. The behaviour that she was found guilty of is a death penalty offence in the place that she did the activity - in that light, it could have been much worse than 20 years. I do not suppose that I am so superior to others that they should adopt my morality, I hope for nothing more than my neighbour to comply with the laws of this country, I have no right to expect anything more.

      By all means lobby for change, but do so in accordance with the law. If you break the law seeking change, enjoy your prison time - you’ve earned it.

    • Rose says:

      04:29pm | 26/08/09

      Look, we do not get to control other countries’ legal systems, the same way they don’t get to control ours. I’m all for a prisoner exchange program, but only if it applies to all Australians in Indonesian jails.
      As for a Western woman being jailed for walking through a ME country without a chaperone, as much as I abhor the law, it would be a really stupid thing to do and she would have to be prepared to suffer the consequences. It sucks, but that’s the way it is. Everyone needs to understand that they need to take responsibility for their own actions and, if they choose to break foreign laws they also choose to be judged by foreign courts. Australian standards do not apply worldwide and it’s time Australians came to terms with that.

    • Gareth says:

      04:33pm | 26/08/09

      Well I have to agree with simon,20 years for a bag of grass is a bit ridiculous but whats more ridiculous is the fact that schapelle corby was too stupid to get herself out of jail with a bribe. Instead she relied on the Australian Government to get her out which was her biggest mistake because most governments are ridiculous and are out of touch with reality. Sorry folks but im over schapelles whinging

    • Dragnet says:

      05:07pm | 26/08/09

      John Ryalnd, you seem a little too passionate about marijuana.  Marijuana use has proven links to causing addiction to the more powerful drugs.  Marijuana dealers don’t just deal marijuana.  Marijuana abuse does absolutely ‘fry’ people’s brains (have seen and watched it happen).  People affected by Marijuana have been killed in car accidents, shootings and stabbings to name just a few.  How many dead people have you had to pick up?  You only have to listen to the bleeding heart lawyers who constantly say their client wasn’t responsible because he was affected by drugs.  This was no ‘bag of dope’ she is a drug trafficker.  What else has she taken in without being caught?  Drug dealers are scum, drug users are scum and the more we can lock away the better.  There is a reason it’s illegal.  It’s because the ‘decent’ members of the community determine it should be.

    • Bob says:

      05:25pm | 26/08/09

      I agree with everyone else; I personally believe that it’s far, far too long sentence for marijuana. For the other “harder” drugs that are getting people addicted and perhaps killing others by overdosing or whatever other serious detriment they cause, such a sentence may even be lenient.

      Anyway, moral of the story: even marijuana is considered a serious drug, is illegal and consequently a prohibited substance. Therefore, you owe it to yourself to stay away from it. Otherwise this can happen I suppose.

    • twentyyears is twentyyears says:

      05:25pm | 26/08/09

      Terry Wright,

      It’s funny how you moralise your illegal behaviour to make yourself feel better about what you do.  It’s still illegal though.

      I am not happy paying for medical treatment of those who have become mentally ill or who have propogated cancer in their bodies from using marijuana?  It’s wasted money.  Will you pay my share for me since you find it so acceptable to consume marijuana?

      As for the rest of your comments - Why did she go there with a bag full of marijuana?  Any logical, scientific and humane thinking person wouldn’t have gone there with a bag full of marijuana.

    • Jayo says:

      05:30pm | 26/08/09

      Forget your moralising users who protest here about what they do.  Forget all about the politics, the corruption, the whining about its effects - she committed a crime.  The answer is simple.  Don’t commit the crime.  It’s not like she didn’t know she was committing a crime.

    • John Ryland says:

      06:07pm | 26/08/09

      OK, so out of the woodwork comes the propaganda believers. I will grant you that marijuana is not harmless, I never said that it was,  and I am not advocating its use by evryone, particularly children. But no matter how you spin it, legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco (and inumerable prescription medications) are far more dangerous to the mental and physical health of the user. Sorry if you are too lazy or biased to do some serious & impartial research, but this is fact. The main reason marijuana is illegal imo is that it can make you so relaxed and happy that you may lose interest in stuff like hard work and getting a mortgage etc, you know, joining the rat race. And we all know how important it is for all of us to join the rat race, right? I cannot believe that in the 40th year anniversary of Woodstock, the world is so consumed by greed and materialism (with all its lovely effects) that dope smoking hippies are regarded with such levels of hatred and contempt.

    • lobi says:

      06:08pm | 26/08/09

      All those going on about how drug dealers kill, how about directing that rage toward action and lobby the banning of cigarettes and alcohol those two drugs kill millions more than illegalt drugs like Marijauna and Heroin per year. No? why? because you use them.

    • Name Withheld says:

      06:20pm | 26/08/09

      I’d be tempted to scoff at Corby’s assertions of innocence, except that 30 years ago as a young woman it happened to me. Arrested and covnvicted for allegedly taking drugs into a foreign country. Except that no drugs were ever found. It was simply my word against that of a drug dealer already in jail in that country, who had named me instead of his real supplier. There was an element of doubt because he desribed me as being an American girl, not Australian—an odd mistake to make if (as he claimed) we had been doing business for some time. Even one of the arresting officers admitted he didn’t believe the accusation. However I was still pressured to plead guilty, on the threat that otherwise I would spend years waiting for the case to go through their legal system.. a harrowing prospect for a 21yo girl who they’d discovered in the jail hospital was carrying a massive tumour. I was offered a deal so they could clear the case and I could return to Australia for medical treatment. While the dealer I was alleged to have supplied was imprisoned for 10 years, I was merely given a 7-year suspended sentence… hardly the retribution you’d imagine if they truly believed I was guilty. The result: a criminal record I was unable to have overturned, and which followed me.

    • Terry Wright says:

      07:53pm | 26/08/09

      Susan, twentyyears is twentyyears, Dragnet and other - maybe take John Ryland’s advice and do some actual research. The rates of mental illness from cannabis are miniscule. The UK reports that 0.01% of cannabis smoker have schizophrenia and Australia has only 0.4% of cannabis users who suffer mental disorders. BTW, mental disorders from alcohol is 500% higher. Keele university in the UK concluded that the dramatic increase in cannabis use over the last 3-4 decades did not result in extra reports of mental health cases. In fact, whilst cannabis use increased many times over, mental health cases declined slightly.

      Yes, cannabis can cause mental health problems but nowhere near the levels previously reported. Those that still make these wild accusations have simply not done any research and blindly believe what they hear from the MSM, the religious right and hyper-exaggerated anti-drug campaigns.

      And Dragnet, your claims of cannabis being a gateway drug is rubbish. The or “Stepping Stone” theory has been debunked multiple times since the 1930s when first introduced by Harry Aslinger.

      Oh BTW, twentyyears is twentyyears, I haven’t smoked pot for decades. I just prefer that facts and science drive government policy, not pressure from moralists who are too lazy to research or prefer to lie for their agenda.

    • Observer says:

      08:56pm | 26/08/09

      I, for one, wish we had death penalties for addiction pedlars and makers.  Particularly addictions which destroy ones self control.  As a geneticaly caused mental health patient, I find my support networks flooded with drug use generated patients.  People who would be normal if they hadn’t been stupid and used drugs.  They deprive me of vital treatment and care from a rapidly diversifying small budget.  There aren’t the trained staff to man the limited & overcrowded facilities, nor the money to pay them.  I’m better off than many similar, but the injustices rankle.  It should be a serious crime to reduce a cognitive brain to mush, pleasurable & temporally for it or not.

    • John Ryland says:

      09:17pm | 26/08/09

      Well said Terry Wright (while I said I like pot, I rarely ever smoke it anymore either, its very easy to give up). But to the point, I am wondering how long before some anti-pot half wit drags out the biggest furphy of all…‘yeah well then why dont we legalise all crimes like murder etc’...and to preempt this classic nonsense, the answer is that marijuana use is a victimless crime. And as far as driving high or driving drunk, no comparison. A stoned driver drives cautiously (yes with a touch of paranoia) and slowly being aware of his/her impairment, whereas a drunk driver gains false belief that he/she is driving well and usually drives faster and much more dangerously.

    • M says:

      10:53pm | 26/08/09

      The article states,

      “would rather see the government focus its efforts on having their lives spared than pander to more stunts by a desperate family.”

      Does the author know that the Foreign Affairs department offered Ms Corby two Queens Counsel lawyers for her defence (I presume you and I would have footed the bill for this), an offer which she rejected!

      I think the government did far more that it should have to bring her home (can you imagine every foreigner being offered QCs and a legal team for committing a crime?)

    • NNick says:

      11:10pm | 26/08/09

      John Ryland, are you seriously suggesting that you should be allowed to drive high? I was almost agreeing with you.

    • Hey Kids says:

      06:21am | 27/08/09

      “Hey kids, drugs r bad, you shouldn’t do drugs, Mkay, if you do them you are bad, cuz drugs r bad, Mkay, is a bad thing to do drugs, so don’t be bad, by doin’drugs, Mkay, that would be bad, cuz drugs r bad”  Mr. Mackey

    • Keith McKechnie says:

      08:55am | 27/08/09

      Naomi -it’s not hard to find others who are apparently suffering like Schapelle Corby when you go to the Foreign Prisoner Support Service website which documents many cases of westerners incarcerated for drug crime often in Asian prisons much worse than Kerobokan. The difference is that Schapelle has consistently maintained her innocence which has ended up highlighting how farcically unfair her trial was in that the vital evidence she needed to prove herself innocent was either whitheld, ruled inadmissable or destroyed and the judges saw no problem with this. At the same time the Australian media all but said “we know you are guilty” and embarked on a vigorous campaign to dig up dirt but are yet to produce one piece of substantiated evidence that would help convict her in an Australian court . There is still an enormous amount of doubt and her sentence for a marijuana crime is monstrous, unprecidented even by Indonesian standards.
      One worrying aspect of all the recent Corby stories is the breathtakingly cruel and totally compassionless responses they attract on the mainstream comment sites. Perhaps Tony Robinson could make a new TV series and call it “Crime and Punishment in the Colonies” as it is obvious he would have a mountain of material to work with here given that much of the population seem to have attitudes that haven’t changed since transportation. There is no doubt that Schapelle Corby is sick and guilty or innocent she’s way more than suffered enough for the crime. How does it
      benefit anyone to continue the slow destruction of her being in the Indonesian jail?  Whether it’s clemency or repatriation on medical grounds she should come home ASAP.

    • Peter Lee says:

      09:21am | 27/08/09

      We simply forget that this is a politically motivated situation.This aussie desreves better treatment we as Australians should be ashamed of ourselves that this has been let go this far. Yes she was caught smuggling drugs which as crime it requires harsh punishment. However it does not change that she is Australian and she deserves to be treated as such.
      The death rate in those prisons is unbelievable this girl will not survive this prison sentence she will die from exposure to an environment that she will not have the immunity to defend herself from. In a report they guess ! that up to 30% of prisoners in the prison she is have HIV they don’t even take the time to test. She washes with a ladle and filthy bowel with no soap that is not soely for her use, she eats food from slop tins that are washed once a week.This is the truth and the thought of any comfort among the other 16 prisoners that share her holding cell is the real un reality.
      Again we can all feel ashamed that this has been let go this far. We are aussie’s we are suppose to stand for each others rites we are suppose to be the lucky country. THIS GIRL SHOULD BE BROUGHT HOME TO SERVE A SENTENCE THAT JUSTIFIABLY SUITS HER CRIME BECAUSE AT THE MOMENT SHE WOULD BE BETTER OF LOOKING AT THE FIRING SQUAD BECAUSE SHE IS UNDER A MORE TORTURES DEATH SENTENCE WHICH FOR THIS GIRL IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WILL Be
      . A girl of her age caught in australia probably would have served 2 years(if not wholly suspened) in jail in custody that reflects our nations values and expectations. Make no mistakes she is being held in babaric and un australian conditions and as fellow Australian Ill say it again she deserves better.

    • jill says:

      09:53am | 27/08/09

      You politicians have a lot of work to do don’t you? and all you people had better find the compassion and together with your arguments get out there and do something cause we are now all living in hell. Poison Ivy - Von Bondies.

    • Ironhalo says:

      10:17am | 27/08/09

      John Ryland, Terry Wright….you old hippies had me lost at ‘propaganda’ and when you started complaining about ‘the man’ stopping you from smoking. You look down your nose at people who have an aversion to drugs as if we are misinformed. Well allow me to illuminate you. I have two school friends, both started smoking dope from an early age, one started selling it. Both of their brain’s are so fried (they didn’t do other drugs) that conversation is impossible, they have nothing to show for their lives but dole cheques and no job, and one of them developed schizophrenia, brought on directly by what his doctor has attributed to marijuana usage. So don’t tell me that it is a harmless drug. Not to mention psychotic effects, but dope has a 4x higher chance of causing lung cancer then normal cigarettes. Should we as a society fund your future health care?

      And don’t feel bad or singled out, most of society looks down it’s nose at smokers in general. Corby did the crime, and judging on the amount of times her and her family vistied Bali, knew exactly what the repercussions would be. She gambled, she lost. The Australian Passport is not a ‘get out of Gaol free, I’m from Ohstraya damn it’ card.

    • S says:

      10:46am | 27/08/09

      @Peter Lee (at 09:21am) - When will people get over the obsession with “But she’s an Australian”. So f___ing what? Delusions of grandeur? Being Australian doesn’t some how make us better that other people or entitled to special treatment in other countries. That air of superiority will not go down well with a judge that has the legal authority to have you killed. It’s only a political issue if we are suggesting that Australian law (or even the Australian PM) is superior to Indonesian law, in Indonesia.

      If a tourist come into our country we punish them in accordance with our laws, if we go to another country we are punished according to their laws.

      (1) If your objection is with respect to other countries having jurisdiction over their own territory - you must also, logically, accept that there is a problem with Australia having jurisdiction over it’s own territory. If that is your opinion, please clearly make that statement.

      (2) If your objection is to Australians being subject to foreign laws while in those countries - you must also, logically, accept that tourists here should not be subject to our laws while here.

      (3) If your objection is to the cleanliness of a specific prison - please make it clear that your issue is one of hygiene for ALL inmates, rather than some special “Australian” privilege.

      (4) If you objection is to the term of imprisonment, again, make it clear that you think the penalty is too much for ALL people (rather than just this one inmate.

      If you follow either of the first two points: I label you hypocrite (because I am certain that you would want Australian police, who derive their power from legislation in the Jurisdiction, to have power over persons in this country who are not Australian citizens.

      If it is one of the later two: Lobby the relevant Government to change their laws/ hygiene standards and, in the meantime, don’t visit those countries. Simple.

    • Voxpop says:

      10:50am | 27/08/09

      Hey Ironhalo - I like that you’re scared of drugs and other young people too especially my kids as I don’t want to see them get involved.  But the reality is that there are just so many people around you, people you wouldn’t even consider as drug takers that are happily enjoying it.  Yep it’s illegal and obviously you have strong views so these people won’t make themselves a target by telling you about it.  I can honoustly say that I know at least 70% of the people I work with have smoked pot at some time and I’d say that figure would be about the same for family and friends.  And no I don’t come from a low socio-economic background/area.  They’re not dole-bludgers and no-hopers as you’d like to think - they’re successful and lead happy and full lives with all the norms and perks.
      Oh and that’s absolute crap that it causes 4 x chance of lung cancer to ciggies.
      It’s really sad about your school friends but those problems are usually pre-existing with pot bringing it out more easily - the same as alcohol does.

    • TH says:

      11:06am | 27/08/09

      Actually, Terry Wright, my comments about cannabis causing mental illness stem from my 18 years of association with the mental health department, unlike your ‘research’ which is obviously based on google searches.

      Your beliefs appear ill founded and delusional, but if it makes you feel better about it in your own head, it may be the effects of cannibas.

      You can try and justify it anyway you like, but it’s illegal for a very good reason.  She got what she deserved, she knew the risks.

    • Dragnet says:

      11:11am | 27/08/09

      As you can see from the admitted marijuana users who have contributed here, using cannabis makes you delusional and blurs your perception about reality and the views of the general community.  It’s an important lesson.

    • jack says:

      11:35am | 27/08/09

      The point is - Just about everybody loves pot, it’s great! I’d rather take pot than any other medication. Even though I hardly ever smoke it now, I did a lot, especially to get me through tough times, or just to relax. I can handle pot though. I wouldn’t go out and drive a car. Kids do.Pot doesn’t make me anymore paranoid than I already am about hard drugs and the effects they have on people and our community. Ever thought of oneness? Some people can’t handle pot, just like prescription drugs. Most adults can’t handle their alcohol let alone giving it to an eighteen year old. Ever thought of what would be good for all of us? Legalise pot and have it prescribed by a doctor. Just like they do prescription drugs. Piss all the other drugs off because the proof is they cause so much grief for all of us. They are highly addictive!  and the psychosis is horrific! Mental illness is on the rise because of hard drugs.

    • jill says:

      11:51am | 27/08/09

      Spot on - “Delusions of Grandeur”, They’re all on the okey dokey mate!

    • jill says:

      12:03pm | 27/08/09

      Yeah Nah, I don’t take prescription drugs but I’d take pot

    • Terry Wright says:

      03:55pm | 27/08/09

      TH, for someone who has had “18 years of association with the mental health department”, you are horribly uninformed. Then it occurred to me ... you’re probably the payroll clerk.

      Also I never knew that scientific papers or official government reports were less credible if found via Google. Should I try Bing or Yahoo? Anyway, how do you know my sources or associations? I could be a secret spy for George Soros moonlighting as a Drug Free Australia (DFA) board member or a member of the NDARC team for the Drug Policy Modelling Program.

      I’m sorry but you have lost all credibility from you last comments. Saying, “Drug dealers are scum, drug users are scum and the more we can lock away the better” is a bit of a give away. BTW, does this include the drug alcohol or are you saying alcohol is safer?  As I pointed out, the gateway theory has been debunked multiple times and most pot dealers only sell pot. Also, if you read your history, you will see that cannabis was first made illegal because of racism against the Mexicans and Blacks in the US. Cannabis is illegal in Australia because we co-signed the UN Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs treaty which prohibits certain drugs. If cannabis was actually rated on it’s associated harm compared to the legal drugs, alcohol and tobacco, it would undoubtedly be legal.

      Saying my “ill founded and delusional” beliefs may be because of the effects of cannibas[sic] is a cheap shot. I declared previously that I haven’t smoked pot for decades. I just don’t like the effects. Cannabis can cause problems like all drugs which usually happens because of chronic use or the person has some adverse reaction to it. If used sensibly in moderation though and you don’t have a family history of mental illness then there’s no doubt that it is far less harmful than alcohol. But you already knew this because you have “18 years of association with the mental health department”.

    • DG (Formerly known as Stumped) says:

      04:41pm | 27/08/09

      Jack says (at 11:35am)
      “Mental illness is on the rise because of hard drugs.”

      I will beg to differ. I would suggest that mental illness is on the rise because pharmaceutical companies lobby to have certain ‘symptoms’ identified as an illness so that their drugs can be marketed as the treatment for a condition that didn’t exist when the drugs were developed.

      Further conditions such as depression and ADHD have been applied far to liberally to cover everything from someone who is having a bad day and a child that won’t eat his vegies to a person curled up in the foetal position and crying themselves to sleep and a child that’s bouncing off the walls all day every day.

      My brother was having trouble sleeping at night, so they said he had depression and an anxiety disorder and gave him a heap of pills to take - not happy with the diagnosis he want for a second opinion. Their advice “yeah, it’s a hard time of year. Try cutting out all caffeine and see how you go, if nothing else it’ll help with the sleep. Come back next week and we’ll talk about how its going” - my brother quit the caffeine (not that he was a big consumer of caffeine only getting it from maybe 1 can of Cola per day) and he was completely fine. There was no mental illness just a mental health professional that thought prescribing drugs was easier than telling their patient to change their lifestyle and accept that sometimes life’s pretty average.

      There was some recent research in a US college about the use of drugs to study and get through exams - minors who managed to get diagnosed with ADHD were selling their meds to healthy student who then used them to study - they talked to one of the guys that was selling and he said something to the effect of “It’s so easy, I just had to tell the guy that I had trouble concentrating and got into trouble at school for misbehaving and I really wanted to do better”.

      I would suggest that the above give some indication as to why mental illness is increasing.

    • 20is20 says:

      07:21pm | 27/08/09

      Wow the level of irrational thought is breath taking.  I wonder if blogging nonsense is also a side effect of consuming too much marijuana?

    • Lee says:

      07:31pm | 27/08/09

      S
      You seem to forget the drugs where taken from Australia in your backward logic that would make at fault   Australian law inforcement at fault as she walked onto a plan with a boggie board full of dope

    • DG (Formerly S) says:

      07:44pm | 28/08/09

      @Lee - Failure to catch a criminal does not make “Australian law enforcement” responsible for the choice of a person to smuggle drugs out of the country.

      Where she got the drugs is irrelevant in the circumstances. She has been convicted (as I understand it) for taking the drugs into Indonesia, not for taking them out of Australia, or buying them here.

      It would ordinarily be sufficient for the prosecution to prove that the drugs were in her bag and that she claimed to have packed the bag and had not let it out of her protection (that little form you fill in at the airport). The defence would then try to claim that someone had added the drugs after she parked the bag.

      It’s great the way that you try to blame the police for not catching her before she got in trouble in another country. She broke the law in two countries and got caught in one - now she’s being punished by the one that she got caught by.

      Where, in any of the above comments, did I suggest that she was not responsible for her decision to take the drugs into another Country? I certainly don’t think that the police have a positive responsibility to catch criminals here (and you certainly can’t blame the police if you get away with a crime here and then get caught for a related crime somewhere else). I read my post again and again and I simply have no idea how you managed to claim that I was blaming the Australian Authorities. I’d love to read your break down for that conclusion.

      If we follow your logic - had the “Bali 9” made it back to Australia but got caught here, they shouldn’t be charged here because the police at the other end didn’t catch them. Purely ridiculous.

      In theory at least an argument could be made that she was guilty of the possession of the drugs in Australia (i.e she had them in possession to pack them into her bag) and could be prosecuted for possession when she returns - it wont happen (primarily due to lack of evidence). I think a reasonable argument could also be made in relation to double jeopardy (but that’s a side issue).

    • Bernie McClafferty says:

      10:24am | 23/04/12

      there seems to be MANY in here that have trusted EVERY word they have read in the good ald Aussie media. I bet most of the drongos calling for her blood will tell you they have a “mate” that has bought drugs from the Corby’s for years etc etc etc. of course when asked to supply that “mates” name and number it ends up just a pub story that has no truth whatsoever. This is to ALL the so called Aussies that have forgotten the Term “A Fair Go” Schapelle did NOT get a fair go NOR did she get a fair OR legal trial. these facts should be self evident to a blind man with half a brain but some in here rely on pub talk and media lies for their version of what the truth is??? Ask yourself this. If you ended up in Schapelle’s place and KNEW you are innocent, and the corrupt military dictator President offered you your freedom after two years IF you admit guilt, would you lie just to get out like David Hicks?
      Schapelle must be the worlds most stubborn woman on the planet for standing her ground on her innocence OR that she is IN FACT INNOCENT and is the strongest women for lasting this long.
      Westerners life expectancy in this Hell hile jail is on average 7 years before ill health or suicide kills them. Indonesia wanted a high profile drug case to get funding for the “war on drugs” they sure got that with Schapelle.

 

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